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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Can’t you already do that using the asfunction code an Hyperlink anyway? Maybe we don’t need it any longer?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">School of Health & Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Glasgow Caledonian University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 16, 2012 9:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Connectors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That would effectively make the plain text connector redundant because you’d be able to add links to other pages anywhere you like.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Smith, John<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 November 2012 09:20<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Connectors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Re. 3 – Can’t the context menu just have a new entry in the context menu, “Link to page” above “Hyperlink” which opens a new dialog
letting the user select the Page from a list?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">School of Health & Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Glasgow Caledonian University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 16, 2012 9:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Connectors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I can easily do that: as the list is built, I loop over every page. At that point I can check for a pageID and make it into a linkID.
I will add this code and check it in.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">When we did the setNavigationStyle() thing there are two options: historical and linear, with different graphics (not settled on the
graphics yet) for the back button and the ability to add a home button with addHomeButton(). That’s all done engine wise. Does anything else need to happen?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m not close enough to this detail. What’s the answer: to expose the linkID in the wizard somewhere, or allow it to be copied to the
clipboard?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 November 2012 16:39<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Connectors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">But will attach again here .... whoops<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">On 15 November 2012 16:28, Kemp Johnathan <<a href="mailto:johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com" target="_blank">johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Sorry for the delay in responding - had to pop out for a while.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">The 3 outstanding issues are<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB">Whether to enable the pageList control to receive a pageID in the xml data and convert it to a linkID. This is not essential. It will just provide better backward compatibility with any projects using the current
Connector pages.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB">Decide on what navigation options are acceptable to you and to what degree support for setting them is provided by the engine rather than with extra code in the models. This is discussed in the navigation.pdf
document that I have posted previously but will attach again here. If you need any clarification on any of it please let me know. Once I know what support is available in the engine I can work from there. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB">We need to decide how best to handle the plainText connector given that the Author in XOT cannot see the linkID value for a page. If it is acceptable to you then one option is to allow the Author to add child
page elements in the same way I have implemented how you specify specific pages for the Connector Menu in the example I posted earlier. Then the Author can just put the number of the page in the hyperlink i.e. first child page = 1, second child page = 2. If
it would help I set this up for your appraisal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#888888">Johnathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">On 15 November 2012 13:41, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">OK. So we can push on with making the linkID / pageList stuff work in toolkits, that will naturally apply to the pageTemplates projects, and you guys can then sort
out the page wizards implementations. </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What do you need me to do?</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 November 2012 12:00</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Connectors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">I have just had confirmation from Tom that the use of one .rlm file and two xwd files in the manner discussed earlier will not cause any problems for the creation of templates.xwd files or translation issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">On 15 November 2012 11:58, Kemp Johnathan <<a href="mailto:johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com" target="_blank">johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">If Xerte and XOT can share the same .rlm file then this will give the best integration between Xerte and pageTemplates and XOT and pageTemplates. Support and development work on the rlm files can still carry on in Xerte with any necessary
changes to the data they consume being accommodated by editing the respective two xwd files. The rlm file will know that in Xerte Pages mode it is getting pageIDs and in pageTemplates / XOT it is getting linkIDs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">We need to finalise how the navigation options will work to be certain that this will not preclude this option.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">On 15 November 2012 11:41, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The crux of it seems to be then, how do we support connectors in page wizards?</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Otherwise, the linkID / pageList controls make a big difference to the usability of connectors in toolkits / page templates projects.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So options;</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Support them through a different set of files that are only deployed in page wizards in standalone Xerte</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Or drop them from page wizards / standalone xerte</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is this the consensus we’re reaching?</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 November 2012 11:31</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-GB">Subject:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"> [Xerte-dev] Re: Connectors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">To try to narrow this down it seems to me we need to <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">1. Resolve the navigation option handling for the Connector Pages in XOT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">2. See if it is still possible to use a single rlm file and two xwd files<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">3. If it is possible then we have the option to run with Xerte Pages projects and XOT / Page Templates still using the same .rlm files.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">4. If it is not possible to run with a single rlm file and separate xwd files for Xerte and XOT Page Templates then<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">a) We separate XOT and Xerte and they go their separate ways with completely separate sets of model files and xwd files but this could lead to discrepancies between pageTemplates projects and XOT projects as pageTemplates projects would be
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<span lang="EN-GB">b) We keep support for pages projects in Xerte but set the Connector pages xwd files to be only available to XOT. This will remove Connector pages from being available in Xerte and make them only available to XOT / pageTemplates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">c) We scrap all support for pages projects in Xerte and take Xerte back to where it was before page wizards or pages projects were developed. i.e You can round trip XOT to pageTemplates projects but you cannot access individual page wizards
in Xerte.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Johnathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">On 15 November 2012 11:02, Kemp Johnathan <<a href="mailto:johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com" target="_blank">johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">As a way of putting off the day we need to make a decision I can offer the following, but I don't know what impact any developments regarding the navigation aspects will have on this because I don't know what how you want to handle this yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">I can produce a set of files for each connector page as follows using the connector menu page as an example below<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">being a single rlm file that will work in XOT or Xerte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">being an xwd file that works in Xerte and is flagged for xerte only and uses text fields and Page IDs instead of pageLists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">being an xwd file that works in XOT using the pageList control and is flagged to only be used in XOT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">At present the use of the pageList control will break the connections set up in any legacy projects that are already created, unless it can be made to look up the linkID if the xml data contains data that does not begin with "PG".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">The way the menu connector handles the option to specify a list of pages has changed so that the Author can select pages using the pageList control (or enter pageIDs individually in Xerte) so that will break legacy projects but it will present
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<span lang="EN-GB">In principle what should happen is when you build the template.xwd file the xot_connectorMenu.xwd file should get included and the connectorMenu.xwd file should get ignored. But I need to check with Tom if there are any implications with
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<span lang="EN-GB">I have attached a pageTemplates project example containing the reworked Menu Connector so you can see how it is panning out. I will need to edit the code a little to make it agnostic about pageIDs or linkIDs but that should be fairly simple.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">I have used the linkID to locate the page index so don't I can manage with out a rootIcon.gotoPage(linkID) method. It is easier this way to work with both pageIDs and linkIDs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">This just leaves how to handle the plainText connector situation in which the Author cannot see the linkID value.
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<span lang="EN-GB">I had a thought about that. You could add a child element like I have in the menu Connector and then put an index value in the hyperlink e.g. <a href="asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,1" target="_blank"> would point to the first child
element, <a href="asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,2" target="_blank"> would point to the second child element. The fnTextCon function could then look up the linkID from the xml data.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Then for all the connector pages we have the navigation options to resolve.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">On 15 November 2012 10:12, Ron Mitchell <<a href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk" target="_blank">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">The only additional thing that springs to mind right now is whether there can be a check whether the project is a pages/page wizard project and in that case the pageList control isn't used and the old manually added
pageID is used instead. I guess Jonathan is best placed to know whether that would work and what would be involved.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 November 2012 09:12<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Connectors</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">We need to figure out how we are going to deal with the connectors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-GB">Summary</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">- We want to use the new pageList control in the wizard to allow users to create and use linkIDs behind the scenes. Users will simply select the name of the page they want to jump to from the pageList control. The pagelist control writes
the linkID of the selected page to the attribute’s value.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">- This means re-working the connector pages to use the linkID rather than pageID (I don’t think this is hard / lengthy)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">- This brings a big improvement to the connectors in toolkits.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">[so far so good<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">The same thing would also work with a page templates project in standalone xerte. Project’s could still be round-tripped to toolkits and back again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">[so far so good still]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-GB">Problem</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">The problem is with the page wizards. When using the wizard there, there is no way of getting a list of pages in the piece, or generating linkIDs for them, so this approach won’t work. Now there are many problems, because the page wizards
share the code with the page templates models.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-GB">Considerations</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Xerte standalone is pretty much at the end of its life. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Hardly anyone uses page wizards in standalone xerte.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Before we discuss options, is there anything else to add to this summary? Please keep comments short and to the point so that we can get a clear sight of the problem and the options we have available.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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