<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I would have added the drop's so if you're installing it a second time (over the top of an existing one) you don't get a load of error messages from MySQL/PHP saying "TAble X already exists" or whatever.<div><br></div><div>Presumably if you're doing a re-install you expect (and want to?) lose anything which might already be there.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>David.</div><div><br><div><div>On 12 Jul 2012, at 11:59, Pat Lockley wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Erm</div><div> </div><div>Well, the XAMPP version relies on </div><div> </div><div>1) The database server being called localhost</div><div>2) The folder being xertetoolkits</div><div>3) The passwords being the default</div>
<div> </div><div>So if you had 1.7 and then tried to install 1.8 on the same local PC - it'd die I suspect on the fact the xampp.sql in setup doesn't have any drop commands.</div><div> </div><div>But it'd not work anyways as you'd never be able to access it (as the urls and paths are fixed). So a second xampp install would point to <a href="http://localhost/xertetoolkits/">http://localhost/xertetoolkits/</a> - but that would be the old 1.7 install. So the 1.8 install wouldn't ever really be accessible.</div>
<div> </div><div>The XAMPP install is more important (in my mind) than the full install - just because it gives people who aren't technical a chance of getting it installed.<br></div><div>It is a valid question though as there are now drop statements in basic.sql - which weren't there originally. I think the drops are a bit of a risk, but happy to be told otherwise.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Julian Tenney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">
<div lang="EN-GB" vlink="purple" link="blue"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I don’t know, this has always been an issue I guess. Warn the user? Try and migrate the content from one to another?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 July 2012 11:22</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div>
<div><div class="h5"><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Yes but as I said what happens if there's already an install?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Meeting now will test again later.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal">
<a name="1387ab63a6b734bb__MailEndCompose"></a><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 July 2012 11:13<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">The quick one.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I think it’s there to give a real easy way of setting up for the non-techs, I think that’s important.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Thanks.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 July 2012 11:13<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I've not seen that error but I always use the full install option when testing with xampp not the quick xampp install option. Which did you use?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Although I understand why the quick install option is there I've always thought that has disadvantages too e.g. what happens when someone thinks ok I'll test 1.8 on the same xampp install where I have 1.7. They create a new directory, run setup, choose the xampp option rather than full install - does it overwrite the existing 1.7 database or fail to install because the database already exists?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I have an online meeting now until about 12.30 but will test xampp stuff after that.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 July 2012 10:53<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">OK. So how do we stop the error?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:72pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 July 2012 10:53<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p style="margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">By default when you do a new install the guest access is enabled. You then need to edit config.php and comment/uncomment the authentication required. So no for a demo.txt etc and means it's easy to test that the install has completed correctly before enable chosen authentication.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 July 2012 09:47<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p style="margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal">I don't know how authentication works anymore, the old XAMPP route used to copy demo so people didn't have to do it, but with the new authentication I don't know if demo is spurious anymore?<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p style="margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p style="margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">What do I need to do?</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin-left:144pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 July 2012 09:39</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p style="margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal"><br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<u></u><u></u></p></div><p style="margin-left:108pt" class="MsoNormal">
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p style="margin-left:144pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:144pt" class="MsoNormal">
I'm guessing that the old setup had demo.txt in, and demo.txt has been removed from /setup?<u></u><u></u></p><div><p style="margin-left:144pt" class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p style="margin-left:144pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Doing an xampp install I get this error, what’s the problem?</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:144pt" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:144pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span><image001.png></span></span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:144pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin-left:180pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 July 2012 09:35<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Preparation for 1.8 Release</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p style="margin-left:180pt" class="MsoNormal">
<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:180pt" class="MsoNormal">A couple of us are going to deploy Toolkits 1.8 in anger next Friday: everyone seems to think that everything is ready, it would be good to have one final check that everything we think works still does. <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:180pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:180pt" class="MsoNormal">Ron, can you update the test server with the latest svn files so we can see it running on a server please?<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:180pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:180pt" class="MsoNormal">Can anyone do an LDAP setup and test that?<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:180pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:180pt" class="MsoNormal">Can everyone do a localhost / xampp setup and check all your bits and pieces still work please?<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:180pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:180pt" class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div><div><p style="margin-left:144pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:144pt">This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:144pt">This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. <u></u><u></u></p>
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