<div>Thanks for that - I spotted it myself on the Guardian web site this morning.<br></div><div><br></div><div>It would be nice for the accordion to make a come back, so I guess every little helps.</div><div><br></div><div>
Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Johnathan</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 May 2012 12:23, Julian Tenney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">>I'm two frames short of a Xerte :-)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I saw this and thought of you:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/may/29/accordian-wrestling-kimmo-pohjonon" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/may/29/accordian-wrestling-kimmo-pohjonon</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">“</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In the show, Pohjonen plays his souped-up, electronic accordion while wrestlers from Helsinki grapple with each other.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">That’s pretty ‘specialist’ stuff.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">;-)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">
<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 May 2012 10:50</span></p><div><div><br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project</div></div></div><div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Hell I used to be one sandwich short of a picnic now I'm two frames short of a Xerte :-)</p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">JK</p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">
On 30 May 2012 10:48, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Xerte is 24fps, but in html5 it won’t matter</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 May 2012 10:48</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers</p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project</p>
</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Is there a recommended frame rate - I think Xerte uses 22 fps?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Kind regards</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Johnathan</p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">On 30 May 2012 10:37, Fay Cross <<a href="mailto:Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi Johnathan</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types. It will also support the flvs that we currently use but these will obviously need flash so won’t work on iPads etc.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I have made a simple tool that will make a timed transcript files to go with audio / video files – I’ll send you it in a sec.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Not sure about the best way to convert files at the moment though.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Fay</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 May 2012 10:25<br><b>To:</b> Xerte Developers Discussion List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project</span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">
</p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in the next release of Xerte / XOT.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">I used Open Office so that </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">b) so that I could output in pdf format</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">
But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use something like camstudio to create some demo videos.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to create alternative subtitles.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to go with it?</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the video / subtitles?</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">Kind regards</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">
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