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Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....?<br>
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Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In
the case of templates based projects, could it be that the
same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, in the case of XOT<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Then the setting has to live with something
project-specific, i.e. the xml file.<span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 May 2012 12:35<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows
Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><br>
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Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">You
might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what’s
required: this is to configure the language for a particular
project, right?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Right.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">So
for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Ehmmm... yes in
Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In
the case of templates based projects, could it be that the
same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Yes, in the case
of XOT<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Or
is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made
with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file
somewhere in the install.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">That is also an
option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to
choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that
now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously
created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the
language the piece was originally written in.<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">How
will it work for toolkits?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I would assume
in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and
that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 May 2012 12:24<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows
Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Julian,<br>
<br>
I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this
feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the
attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but
that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the
.rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right?<br>
<br>
So what is the correct object?<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
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Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes,
OK.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 May 2012 11:59<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows
Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">Hmmm... I
assume we will use this also to select the engine language at
'runtime'? At least for now?<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
<br>
Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">I'll give it a
go....<br>
<br>
Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’d
put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage=”en-GB”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Defaults
to English I guess.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 14 May 2012 10:49<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows
Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">Yes, I don't
see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to
change the authoring language.<br>
<br>
So...<br>
<br>
1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. <br>
2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when
opening an LO?<br>
<br>
One other small issue is how to determine the default language
(if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link
on the desktop)<br>
<br>
Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">OK,
let’s do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml
file with no wizard support?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 14 May 2012 10:30<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows
Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:180.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:180.0pt">For 2. No I
think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage.
I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the
xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your
authoring language at the moment.<br>
<br>
For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot.<br>
<br>
Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">How
do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For
2 I’m not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the
LO properties, but there is already a ‘language’ property
that configures the soft keyboard for ‘funny’ characters.
The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written
in English, but includes French exercises, so the language
would be set to French, even though the authoring language
was English.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maybe
we just need to define ‘authorLanguage’ and use that?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
can’t think of any other way, can you?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 14 May 2012 09:59<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows
Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:216.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:216.0pt">I created a
separate topic for the Windows version...<br>
<br>
I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. <br>
<br>
two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned)<br>
- I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes
(advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why)<br>
- I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode
if you open an existing LO that was created with a different
language mode than.<br>
<br>
Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously
we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml
of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte.<br>
<br>
Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:216.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">How
long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into
the codebase? I’d quite like them to go in this release if
that’s manageable. On the other hand I’d like to get this
release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here
to the latest code, because some of the requests we’ve had
from people here are only in the new build; also, we have
the Xenith project up and running and want to release the
HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I’d prefer not to
have two releases very close together, I’d prefer to get
this finished and on the web site soon.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:216.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:216.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Are
we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows?
That would be a good first step.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 12 May 2012 18:11<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add
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