<div>Unless I have slipped up somewhere the models in the pageWizards/baseline folder will be different to the equivalent model files in the pageTemplates section of the svn, only where a change has been committed to the pageTemplates model, after the last time I did a check and updated the pageWizards models. All the rest will be exactly the same - as judged by comparing the two folders using winmerge.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Once I have identified the changes then the baseline copy of the file will be replaced with the pageTemplates copy of the file, ready to detect any subsequent change should it be made.</div><div>
<br></div><div>The models in the pageWizards / models folder should be the definitive set until we reach the situation in which things are tidied up and the definitive set of files find their natural home in the runtime folder. </div>
<div><br></div><div>The pageWizard/models/ files will appear significantly different if compared to either the files in the pageWizards/baselines/models folder or the pageTemplates/models folder due to the support for indexing that they contain ([projPI] instead of [0])</div>
<div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Johnathan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 May 2012 10:54, Julian Tenney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div class="im"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">></span> I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files and ensure the changes get into the beta models.</p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks.</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Then the models in the two folder should be *<b>exactly</b>* the same?</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">And the definitive set of files are those in pageWizards/models?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 May 2012 10:52</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test</div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">
</p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">During the development of the new models I kept a folder in xerte svn/pageWizards called baseline. In this I have a set of the models from pageTemplates.</p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">When I updated my svn I compared the pageTemplates models with the ones in the baseline so that I could detect any changes and implement them in my models. Then I copied across the updated files from the pageTemplates folder so that baseline was in sync again.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Since the beta release I had incorrectly assumed that changes would be made in the beta models, however this appears not always to have been the case.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">It will not be easy to compare the models in the pageTemplates with the new models because there will be many changes showing in the comparison that are merely the fact that [0] has changed to [projPI].</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">However as far as I know the baseline files are up to date to the last time I did a comparison, so it should be possible to identify any changes in the pageTemplate version of the models and to implement those changes in the new models.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">A quick comparison using winmerge shows the following files have been modified since my last check.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">buttonNav</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">columnPage</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">
jmol</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">title</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">youtube</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">youtuberss</p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files and ensure the changes get into the beta models.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Since we are heading for a situation in which pageTemplates based projects will be generated from the same set of models as are used by desktop Xerte, rather than having a set of models packaged in an xtp file it would be really useful if we could get to the position in which the model files in the runtime/pages folder are the definitive set. I have been leaving this to Tom as he has a better understanding of how svn's work than I do and I don't know what changes to files (if any) he may need to make. In the mean time I will continue to update the set of model and wizard files in the pageWizard section of the svn.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Kind regards</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">
Johnathan</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On 11 May 2012 09:24, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</p>
<div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">></span> I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates</p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This might be bad news then, because I have always edited, templates/pageTemplates/models, because that has always been considered the number one source until very recently. It was my understanding that you were keeping your models in synch with these. I have never made any edits to the models in pageWizards/models, but I thought any changes to the files in templates/pageTemplates were reflected in your files.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 May 2012 23:05</span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test</p></div></div></div>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">I have been updating xerte svn\pageWizards\models</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
I don't know anything about xerte2code\pageTemplates\models is that in the xerte svn?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Is there a separate set of model files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models that have been changed separate to the files in xerte svn\pageWizards\models ?</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">I have just updated both my xerte svn and toolkits svn and compared the model folders using winmerge and the models are identical save that the xerte svn has indexChanger.rlm and toolkits has translation.rlm and xerte.rlm</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">So this is correct as I understand things should be.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Kind regards</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Johnathan</p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">On 10 May 2012 14:17, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">> Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are.</p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">This is a question we need to nail down. AFAIK, the one source is the models folder in xerte svn\pageWizards\models, so these are the files we should be modifying / fixing and then copying to toolkits. Whether or not they contain all changes to the files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models I am not sure.<br>
<br>Jonathan?</p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell<br>
Sent: 10 May 2012 10:10<br>To: 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test<br><br>> and there's still a bit to do <<br><br>On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files<br>
but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server<br>overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php.<br><br>I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points:<br>
<br>deleting unused media not working<br><br>export not including language folder and files<br><br>I know the language functionality is still under development but just a note<br>that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu<br>
doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. Perhaps<br>it should always be available?<br><br>Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are.<br><br>Ron<br><br><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<br>
Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16<br>To: For Xerte technical developers<br>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test<br><br>Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and<br>there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________<br>
From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>[<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley<br>
[<a href="mailto:patrick.lockley@googlemail.com" target="_blank">patrick.lockley@googlemail.com</a>]<br>Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53<br>To: For Xerte technical developers<br>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test<br><br>
Well you could do it on page title?<br><br>if(startpage){<br><br>Cover LO while LO loads<br>move to startpage<br>uncover LO<br><br>}<br><br><br>On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell <<a href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk" target="_blank">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a>><br>
wrote:<br>> firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build<br>> one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a<br>> relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful.<br>
><br>> It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest<br>> would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or<br>> just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with<br>
> pdf's<br>> <a href="http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5</a><br>><br>> Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are<br>
> moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the<br>> author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the<br>> deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be<br>
> sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when<br>> the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather<br>> than needing to be a permalink etc.<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Pat<br>
> Lockley<br>> Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05<br>> To: For Xerte technical developers<br>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test<br>><br>> i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it?<br>
><br>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett <<a href="mailto:d_b_burnett@hotmail.com" target="_blank">d_b_burnett@hotmail.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> One objection:<br>>> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites,<br>
>> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct?<br>>><br>>> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or<br>>> exploratory material.<br>>> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to<br>
>> this blog post and continue the lesson from there".<br>>><br>>> I see the use of being able to send a link via email.<br>>> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-)<br>
>><br>>> Dave<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> ________________________________<br>>> From: <a href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk" target="_blank">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a><br>>> To: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
>> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100<br>>><br>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test<br>>><br>>> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example<br>>> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected<br>
>> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something<br>>> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking<br>>> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and<br>
>> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced<br>>> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are<br>>> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of<br>
>> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL<br>>> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in<br>>> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many<br>
>> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but<br>>> useful<br>> on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g.<br>>> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example<br>
>> <a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560" target="_blank">http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560</a> there are many<br>>> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when<br>
>> providing CPD support etc.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that<br>>> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a<br>
>> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the<br>>> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when<br>>> highlighting what's new in 1.8.<br>>><br>
>><br>>><br>>> From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Dave<br>
>> Burnett<br>>> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08<br>>> To: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've<br>>> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if<br>
>> the technical issues are addressed.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files.<br>>><br>>> It was used if you had a router style architecture.<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page.<br>>><br>>> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement<br>>> and there's easier ways to accomplish those.<br>
>><br>>> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling<br>>> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across<br>
>> other nuggets.<br>>><br>>> :-)<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> ________________________________<br>>><br>>> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com" target="_blank">johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com</a><br>>> To: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test<br>>><br>>> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and<br>>> not a pageID<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-)<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never<br>>> sure what you meant.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the<br>
>> learning object author.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT<br>>> then it would be more acceptable.<br>>><br>>><br>
>><br>>> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of<br>>> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always<br>>> be guess work as to how short the delay can be.<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Kind regards<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Johnathan<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>><br>
wrote:<br>>><br>>> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll<br>>> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep<br>> linking, i.e.<br>>> ?pageID=321234524<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and<br>>> parked<br>> it.<br>>> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the<br>
>> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Kemp<br>>> Johnathan<br>>> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54<br>>><br>
>><br>>> To: For Xerte technical developers<br>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just<br>
>> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to<br>>> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem.<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing<br>>> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning<br>>> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different<br>
>> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only<br>>> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting<br>>> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page.<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory,<br>>> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am<br>>> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy<br>
>> it would work OK then it could be added later.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right<br>>> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier<br>
>> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the<br>>> Bag of Grain on one side of the river.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Kind regards<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>
>> Johnathan<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>><br>wrote:<br>
>><br>>> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time.<br>>> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be<br>>> moved on. Let's leave this for another time.<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Kemp<br>
>> Johnathan<br>>> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17<br>>><br>>><br>>> To: For Xerte technical developers<br>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>
>> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the<br>>> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as<br>>> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event<br>
>> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could<br>>> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be<br>
>> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully<br>>> available.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript<br>>> sorted out and then post something for you to try out.<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Kind regards<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Johnathan<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell <<a href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk" target="_blank">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>>> Working fine here too<br>>> <a href="http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu" target="_blank">http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu</a><br>>><br>
>> Win 7 64bit<br>>><br>>> IE 8.0<br>>><br>>> Chrome 18.0<br>>><br>>> Safari 5.1.5<br>>><br>>> Opera 10.60<br>>><br>>> Firefox 12.0<br>>><br>>><br>
>><br>>> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Tom<br>>> Reijnders<br>>> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23<br>>> To: For Xerte technical developers<br>
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is<br>>> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened)<br>
>><br>>> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18<br>>><br>>> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef:<br>>><br>>> Hello Everyone,<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making<br>
>> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than<br>>> always have them open at the title page.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept.<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing<br>>> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of<br>>> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that<br>
>> supports the redirection will be lost.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web<br>>> browser - not Xerte.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>
>> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place<br>>> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise<br>>> javascript calls will not work).<br>>><br>>><br>
>><br>>> It should open at a title page.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Then add to the url in your browser<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> ?pageID=menu<br>>><br>>><br>
>><br>>> and press enter to reload the page.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page<br>>> to the menu page.<br>>><br>>><br>
>><br>>> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to<br>>> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari,<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a<br>>> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the<br>>> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because<br>
>> rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit<br>>> event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for<br>>> the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place.<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same<br>>> approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array<br>>> to source the page information)<br>
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