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Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef:
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAO2PinMbPmt6LCB-fyfsKeSMUg=mpy_k0-XNWF9_wX5qZzg56A@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Suggestion (to save inboxes)
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<div>Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you
have</div>
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<div>export.inc as the default</div>
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<div>if</div>
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<div>export_modified.inc exists</div>
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<div>then this is loaded instead of export</div>
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<div>so you can have your own interface?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron
Mitchell <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk" target="_blank">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">For
me the real value of the local export is this:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">User
are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT
install) and want to link to Word or PowerPoint
documents etc which aren't online so they import
them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst
learners are accessing from XOT all fine.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Author
the exports for use via vle and or locally via
USB/CD. Author then needs choice whether those
word/ppt links should be converted to local links or
not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to
local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In
other cases LO's may contain links to lot's of
online resources and sites so connectivity is
required even when viewing locally and keeping the
media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very
useful especially where assets are shared or updated
regularly.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The
checkbox option gives the author control which is
great.</span></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 May 2012 10:21<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">
I would love to oblige, but what do you actually
suggest? I mean point 2 contains 2 different exports
(Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make those two links
in that line?<br>
<br>
And what do we do with 'local'<br>
<br>
All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's
probably a typo somewhere), the actual export done are
parameters to export.php. So we only need to figure
out how to do the UI right now.<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
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Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">OK,
lets do that.</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 May 2012 10:15<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Only
listed that order because that's the order that's
there now and effectively has been previously but
yes probably makes more sense to swap 1 and 3</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">1.
Export for deployment. Contains only the files
required for importing into a vle without SCORM
tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing
into another XOT install</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">2.
Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM
1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores
e.g. into Moodle gradebook</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">3.
Archive export. Complete backup including offline
editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or
sharing with other Xerte users.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 May 2012 10:01<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’d
switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 May 2012 09:52<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">>
AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to
xerte on windows.<</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
think there's more than you think and more than we
know. They aren't developers, they're teachers in
all sorts of organisations who might start off with
the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the
same easy to use interface in the developer tool and
that becomes the way the create and edit whilst
waiting for their own organisation's installation.
There were quite a few people at the event on
Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had
started on the sandpit and exported. The full export
has always been useful in this respect and a selling
point. I can see things might need to change in the
future but please keep this for now unless there's
really good reason not to?</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">>
Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe
the same output as self contained deployment – or is
this different?<</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In
my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip'
rather than scorm and then import into their vle
(usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I appreciate
that they would be better just linking from XOT but
for various reasons many still go the export route
and obviously sandpit users do this because of the
monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of
scorm imports in Moodle in particular are often
constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide
scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm
route where score tracking isn't required. I guess
this might change if more page types are tracked
with Tom's developments but for now I think there's
still a need for non-scorm deployment. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So
tweaking your list...</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">1.
Archive export. Complete backup including offline
editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or
sharing with other Xerte users.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">2.
Export for deployment. Contains only the files
required for importing into a vle without scorm
tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing
into another XOT install</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">3.
Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM
1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores
e.g. into Moodle gradebook</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">HTH</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ron</span></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 May 2012 09:17<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
</div>
</div>
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</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Maybe
it’s useful to list the scenarios:</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Export
for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM
2004</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Export
for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same
output as self contained deployment – or is this
different?)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Export
for offline editing and round-tripping back to
toolkits – this is what you get when you click a
source code link in xpert as well?</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">That’s
all of them?</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 May 2012 09:12<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
</div>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This
is starting to feel like a FWS failure.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In
options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media
from the originating server? Is that what ‘full URL’
means, i.e. ‘<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/%3F"
target="_blank">http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/’</a></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Supporting
the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte
for windows -> import -> continue editing
might be something we want to drop in the future. I
don’t know how this will work in an HTML5 world.
Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and
there’s less need to support this than there was. By
far the most useful export is the one for
deployment, with a minimal set of files, including
only the media used / referenced in the project.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">AFAIK,
very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on
windows.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It
useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT
users at different locations. When these projects
are imported, the project folder gets all the models
/ thumbs etc – this doesn’t really need to happen,
but I’m not sure why Pat made it work like this –
maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope
with templates the receiving install doesn’t know
about, or templates that are out of synch with the
receiving systems models / engine etc?).</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The
SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that’s
straightforward.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 May 2012 21:44<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to
be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract
and edit in Xerte. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">However
I can understand the advantage of not exporting
unused media in terms of file space saving etc but
I'm not sure about the value of not including the
files required to edit unless including them causes
a problem? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Effectively
this means If I want to have an offline copy for
safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into
a vle and track I have to export twice - a full
archive and a scorm export whereas previously the
scorm export would enable both. Has this been
discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem
including the .xwd and any other files required to
edit as part of all the exports?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Personally
no I don't think the links should always be
converted to local links in fact quite the opposite.
I've been showing people how to re-use assets by
creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's
media and files used with lots of different LO's
then upload to an asset only LO and then use those
links in any number of LO's. This also means that
linked documents can be updated once in one place so
I think having choice of whether to keep the full
url links or localise them is useful even if the
asset is in the same lo.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cheers</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ron</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 May 2012 21:19<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">The
option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to
edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare
minimum. <br>
<br>
I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should
always happen.... and then get rid of option 3.<br>
<br>
Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Have
committed that small mod.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As
far as I can tell option 3 works like this...</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
upload a file via properties > media & quota
and copy that full url link</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
then add that link to a text area of the same LO
somewhere</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">export
options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported
media folder but the link to the file added via
media & quota remain full url links</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">export
option 3 changes the link to the file added via
media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename'
rather than full url.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
also wondered what happens if the linked file was
added to a different lo and in that case the export
retains the full url so I guess the code must check
for the LO ID or something and only convert the
links to local links if the same lo.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">However
I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte
but at the moment there seems to be a problem when
trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3.
If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then
automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g.
can't edit the file. The same lo exported with
option 1 edits just fine.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In
testing all this I also found another bug - when
uploading via properties > media & quota the
uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is
uploaded.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I'll
add these issues to the Google doc.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">HTH</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ron</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 May 2012 20:27<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">Please
do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is
doing.... :-)<br>
<br>
Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi
Tom</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">on
the test server I just replaced the export template
with a copy that has <br></br> in the
relevant places e.g.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Does
that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick
modification?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cheers</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ron</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 May 2012 20:09<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">That
looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return
between each link just so it's less easy to click
the wrong link by mistake.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">HTH</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ron</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 May 2012 19:59<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">How
about this for now?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">I think
this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I
knew what it is doing. <br>
<br>
Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Do
we need to add some wording to make this easy to
understand: I might not know what ‘with references
to local files altered’ means, so it might read:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">---------------------------------------</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There
are several ways to export a project. An exported
project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip
file for you to share with another user, to deploy
on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS
or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the
project’s files, or just those files used by the
project. [Need some explanation around option 3
here]. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Export
Zip Archive with all media files from the project</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
Zip Archive with just the media files used in the
project</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If
you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose
to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you
don’t know which version of SCORM you need, the
SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE
systems. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Export
Scorm 1.2 Package</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
Scorm 2004 Package.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">---------------------------------------</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Happy
for any ideas / refinements? Also I can’t remember
what the point of option 3 was..? I’ll see if I can
find anything in my mail…</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 May 2012 09:42<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code
(commit of fixes)</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt">
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><br>
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Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: </p>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Yep.</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">-----Original Message-----</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">To: For Xerte technical developers</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">last week... :-)</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree?</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef:</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip?</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports.</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one.</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">To: For Xerte technical developers</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">are 5 exports:</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">look at that.</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">SCORM 1.2</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">SCORM 2004</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">SCORM with extra MetaData)</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Tom</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef:</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option.</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out.</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Are these changes on the test server now?</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">To: For Xerte technical developers</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export,</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">export/download discussion.</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef:</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Hi</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs&</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Friday...</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">as a backup of the whole project.</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">HTH</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Ron</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">To: For Xerte technical developers</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes)</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">I just committed an update to the export code:</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Fixes and additions for export</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">folder</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">models are used</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> - small fixes in htaccess.conf</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> - get rid of superfuous scorm files</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">in their own folder (modules/xerte/export)</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well...</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">password in the database... ;-)</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Tom</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef:</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:reijnders@tor.nl" target="_blank"><reijnders@tor.nl></a> wrote:</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">I will, but they are really simple.</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef:</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">might have hungry regexs?</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :)</pre>
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