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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>></span><span style='color:#1F497D'> feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip()<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>doesn't resolve the problem - doesn't do anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You gave the icon an ID? Set it to 1 for now then. I’ll investigate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 May 2012 15:32<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ok possibly getting closer...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>with the .rlt open and hitting play...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>with scrolling off - problem gone<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>with scrolling 1 - problem gone<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>with scrolling auto - problem exists!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Adding a script icon on it's own or attached to a button after feedText in the rlm and adding<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip()<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>doesn't resolve the problem - doesn't do anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>BTW now that the selected video pops up in a new window would it be better to set the height of the instruction text box to something like 470?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>HTH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 May 2012 14:51<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Can you try a couple of things…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>- turn scrolling off (delete the property) on the feedText icon in youtuberss.rlm ? //if the icon is screwing this up, this should stop any scrolling at all<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>- put it back on, turn it to 1? //this will add scroll bars whatever the size of the feed text is returned, just curious if it makes any odds.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>If those fail we need to debug it from within the engine and see what’s going on: I want to know if it’s getting added twice (which I don’t think it is). You could try customising the page and adding abutton to the youtuberss.rlm file so you could do things like:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>//try and kill it…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip()<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>//then try this on another button and see if it puts it back properly. If we can tie it down to the scroller in the text icon that would be a start.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>feedTextIcon.enableScroll(true);<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Does it happen on any other scrollable text fields? Maybe create one somewhere and see if that also screws up?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 May 2012 14:13<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Just updated the engine, cleared cache in both IE and Safari but same problem exists.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Presumably you've seen the posts to the xerteforteachers list confirming that others get this too?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>My Flash player = 11.2.202.233<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Reported by Adam on teachers list<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>Windows 7 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>Chrome<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>Flash: 11.2.202.235<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Reported by Shirley on teachers list<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yes I see it in IE 8 and in FF 8.0.1 I get a blank page, cannot see videos at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 May 2012 13:52<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>This has got to be an engine problem: it looks like the Flash Component that provides scrolling, but before it’s been properly initialised and moved / sized to the right place.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>What version of the flash player have you got?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Have you got the latest engine on the web site? I just committed a latest one to the root of the toolkits svn.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 May 2012 11:31<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no difference.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8, Safari, Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also although I was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who raised the issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody else on this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but let's open this out - I'll send the link to the other lists </span><a href="http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55" target=new>http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55</a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 May 2012 11:18<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ahh. Maybe it’s the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of the YT pages.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 May 2012 10:51<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta install...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I don't get the rogue scroller. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the rogue scroller.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. <a href="http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55">http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this but does this point to a possible cause solution?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 May 2012 09:32<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Do you get it in standalone xerte?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 May 2012 08:55<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 14:19<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:51<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>XP.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:51<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Anyone else seeing or not seeing this?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:40<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>No I’m not:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=1604 height=1170 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01CD29D4.4A2B2700"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:35<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on <a href="http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22">http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=352 height=258 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CD29D4.4A2B2700"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:16<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>I aint seein’ no scrollbar.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>This some third party thing you guys have installed?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:13<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Have uploaded. P60 of <a href="http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22">http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>HTH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:02<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it’s made, so you don’t lose it. That’s in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it…)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 12:39<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of <a href="http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22">http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>How will the feed page work?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>HTH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 12:14<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 11:41<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 11:29<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'>I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it’s gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it’s the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'>If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I’ll do the RSS one as well, but I’ll wait for any comments first.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:180.0pt'>This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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