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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:51<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>XP.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:51<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Anyone else seeing or not seeing this?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:40<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>No I’m not:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=1604 height=1170 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01CD27A5.140A9F60"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:35<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on <a href="http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22">http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=352 height=258 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CD27A5.140A9F60"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:16<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>I aint seein’ no scrollbar.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>This some third party thing you guys have installed?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:13<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Have uploaded. P60 of <a href="http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22">http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>HTH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 13:02<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it’s made, so you don’t lose it. That’s in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it…)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 12:39<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of <a href="http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22">http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>How will the feed page work?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>HTH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 12:14<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 11:41<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2012 11:29<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it’s gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it’s the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I’ll do the RSS one as well, but I’ll wait for any comments first.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:144.0pt'>This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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