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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Agreed. Just a big xwd.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br><b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2012 12:51<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any other shared files<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Ehmmm, yes that was my assumption as well. (sort of) I didn't want to package them in an xtp for Xerte standalone though. <br><br>So I am/was a bit surprised that I saw all the individual xwds in the xot repository. I don't see the point.<br><br><br><br>Op 23-4-2012 13:30, Julian Tenney schreef: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m not even sure where they are now!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Previously I had them in the xerte repo, so that I could run Xerte standalone from there and have the latest .rlms in a page templates project: that made it easy to fire up a project, open up the rlm and make changes / fix things. It also means you can work on the engine with the latest set of files easily, and debug stuff if you need to. Those files were then made into a .xtp file for standalone, or moved into the toolkits repo after testing on the Nottingham toolkits server. I’d like to stick with that arrangement as I think it worked well.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2012 12:23<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any other shared files</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and the key question as Jonathan asked too - where's the primary source of the xwd's and rlms etc to be? e.g. if today at 1pm one of us wanted to make a change, addition, fix to one of the rlm's where should that be committed?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2012 12:11<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any other shared files</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you generate a xwd from lots of small xwds for each model, how do you add in the LO stuff? There’s no model for that.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br><b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2012 12:10<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any other shared files</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><br><br>Op 23-4-2012 12:54, Julian Tenney schreef: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>>I guess Julian is king…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>…Canute maybe. Seems like I can’t stem the tide…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I imagine the stylesheet option has gone because there isn’t an LO model, so Tom built in the LO properties from an old file to his generator.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:108.0pt'>Ehmmm, come again? Can I fix that?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The order of things: I like the order suggested: Text, Media, Navigators, Connectors, Interactivity, etc. I thought this was determined by the LO node in the xwd as well?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:108.0pt'><br>The order has been fixed. Not committed yet though...<br>The order is determined from the xwd, but what is in there is dynamic (sort of) from the individual xwd's. But Like I said, I found a soltution that for all purposes will work out just fine.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 April 2012 11:13<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any other shared files</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That's a good point Jonathan but I guess the answer isn't straightforward :-(</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>e.g. I notice Fay has just updated /trunk/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/data.xwd but I'm not sure what changes that contains or whether that brings it in sync or out of sync with the Xerte version or rather versions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As we've listed and discussed the custom stylesheet option has gone missing in the XOT 1.8 beta to which I guess means it's gone missing from the xwd but I'm not sure how or why. Likewise there's the discussion about the order in which the categories and page types appear in the Nottingham template and I guess this applies to Xerte as well as XOT although I haven't checked if this has changed in Xerte too?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I guess Julian is king and needs to guide us? ;-)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 April 2012 10:47<br><b>To:</b> Xerte Developers Discussion List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any other shared files</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Currently we have separate svns for Xerte and Toolkits.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Whilst developing the new model and xwd files I set up a pageWizards folder in the root of the Xerte svn so that they could be developed parallel to the existing models which were still in use.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Now we have come to a point where we are testing a beta release of Toolkits that is based on these new models and xwds. Also a beta release of desktop Xerte is imminent, which will also be using the same model and xwd files. They will also share many other files e.g. thumbs, the "common" folder and I also (?) the core files such as editor.swf, XMLengine.swf etc.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Would it not make sense for all the shared files to be kept in one location so that we avoid a situation in which the various copies of the files that currently exist get out of synch with each other? If the Toolkits release is using earlier versions of swf files that have been modified in the desktop Xerte then this is going to create anomalies during testing, since the models were developed in the desktop environment.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Where then are we to keep them?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>The testing of the XOT beta is raising the need to make some changes to xwd files and possibly also some model files. I don't want to start making these changes whilst there is ambiguity as to which set of files to work from.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Personally I have no preference as to where they are kept. I think Tom may have a view on this.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Currently there are copies of the new xwd and rlm files in<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>xerte svn / runtime/pages /<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>xerte svn / pageWizards/models (rlms) and pageWizards/en-gb (xwds)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>XOT svn/ modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models (rlms) and wizards (xwds)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Johnathan<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:144.0pt'>This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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