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    Yep, I'll make a proposal...<br>
    <br>
    Will test it out and smooth over all the differences between
    en/en-gb/en-GB at the same time....<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Tom<br>
    <br>
    Op 23-4-2012 18:15, Julian Tenney schreef:
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          If we follow the logic of this we would have a pages folder in
          the root of the xerte svn / runtime / folder.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">That’s where they should go then.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">> relationship of the core swf files
          XMLengine.swf, editor.swf etc. to both Xerte and XOT. Do they
          use different versions or do they both use the same files<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Exactly the same.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I think we can finalise this now?<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
              lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
              [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On
                Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2012 17:00<br>
              <b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm
              files in the svn(s) plus any other shared files<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
              style="color:#3366FF;background:white">"So I am/was a bit
              surprised that I saw all the individual xwds in the xot
              repository. I don't see the point."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I put a copy
            in there because it was my understanding that I had been
            asked to do so at the time the XOT site was being set up.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">The only
            reason to put them in the XOT repository is if you were ever
            going to rebuild the data.xwd file, perhaps to include your
            own additional page types. However since I would have
            thought the best place to develop any new pages would be in
            Xerte I can see no point in having a set of xwds in the XOT
            repository.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">There is other
            stuff though that has common usage in Xerte and XOT e.g. the
            model files, common files core swfs?<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">My expectation
            was that the pageWizards section would effectively become
            redundant once the work on 2.18 was completed - I only
            created it to give me somewhere to work in parallel to the
            existing Xerte files whilst the development work on 2.18
            took place.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">With version
            2.18 there is no pageTemplates xtp file any more.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
              style="color:#3366FF">"Previously I had them in the xerte
              repo, so that I could run Xerte standalone from there and
              have the latest .rlms in a page templates project: that
              made it easy to fire up a project, open up the rlm and
              make changes / fix things. It also means you can work on
              the engine with the latest set of files easily, and debug
              stuff if you need to."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">If we follow
            the logic of this we would have a pages folder in the root
            of the xerte svn / runtime / folder. This would contain the
            folders common, mapstraction, media, models, thumbs,
            wizards, and the pages.rlo and xwd files. It would also
            contain the template.rlt and template.xml files (presumably
            also the template.xwd file or would this be generated on the
            fly when you created a new pageTemplates type project?).<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Is it possible
            to agree and finalise this? I know Tom has made some changes
            to the files in the pageWizards section of the svn and also
            that he was concerned that my approach to copying files
            would lose the versioning data. <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">My knowledge
            of how the svn works is not as good as Tom's so can I
            suggest that since Julian is unsure of the location of the
            new files that if Julian is OK with it that Tom sets up the
            Xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder consistent with his
            preferences for which set of files to have in there and with
            maintaining the versioning information of the files. <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">One aspect I
            am particularly unsure of is the relationship of the core
            swf files XMLengine.swf, editor.swf etc. to both Xerte and
            XOT. Do they use different versions or do they both use the
            same files. If so someone who is familiar with these files
            and which ones are the latest stable versions will need to
            ensure that both Xerte and XOT has copies of the latest
            ones.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> Then we
            should all be in a position in which we know which set of
            files to be changing and can start taking action to correct
            some of the bugs in the XOT beta test site. <o:p></o:p></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Does that make
            sense?<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Johnathan<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On 23 April
              2012 12:51, Julian Tenney <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk"
                target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Agreed.
                    Just a big xwd.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                          lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                        lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                          target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
                        [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                          target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2012 12:51</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of
                          xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any other
                          shared files<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt">Ehmmm,
                      yes that was my assumption as well. (sort of)  I
                      didn't want to package them in an xtp for Xerte
                      standalone though.  <br>
                      <br>
                      So I am/was a bit surprised that I saw all the
                      individual xwds in the xot repository. I don't see
                      the point.<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Op 23-4-2012 13:30, Julian Tenney schreef: <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m
                        not even sure where they are now!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Previously
                        I had them in the xerte repo, so that I could
                        run Xerte standalone from there and have the
                        latest .rlms in a page templates project: that
                        made it easy to fire up a project, open up the
                        rlm and make changes / fix things. It also means
                        you can work on the engine with the latest set
                        of files easily, and debug stuff if you need to.
                        Those files were then made into a .xtp file for
                        standalone, or moved into the toolkits repo
                        after testing on the Nottingham toolkits server.
                        I’d like to stick with that arrangement as I
                        think it worked well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                            lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                              target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
                            [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                              target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2012 12:23<br>
                            <b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of
                            xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any
                            other shared files</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">and
                        the key question as Jonathan asked too - where's
                        the primary source of the xwd's and rlms etc to
                        be? e.g. if today at 1pm one of us wanted to
                        make a change, addition, fix to one of the rlm's
                        where should that be committed?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
                        1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                            lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                              target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
                            [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                              target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2012 12:11<br>
                            <b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of
                            xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any
                            other shared files</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
                        you generate a xwd from lots of small xwds for
                        each model, how do you add in the LO stuff?
                        There’s no model for that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
                        1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                            lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                              target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
                            [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                              target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2012 12:10<br>
                            <b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of
                            xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any
                            other shared files</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt"><br>
                      <br>
                      Op 23-4-2012 12:54, Julian Tenney schreef: <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">>I
                        guess Julian is king…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">…Canute
                        maybe. Seems like I can’t stem the tide…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I
                        imagine the stylesheet option has gone because
                        there isn’t an LO model, so Tom built in the LO
                        properties from an old file to his generator.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:144.0pt">Ehmmm,
                      come again? Can I fix that?<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
                        order of things: I like the order suggested:
                        Text, Media, Navigators, Connectors,
                        Interactivity, etc. I thought this was
                        determined by the LO node in the xwd as well?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:144.0pt"><br>
                      The order has been fixed. Not committed yet
                      though...<br>
                      The order is determined from the xwd, but what is
                      in there is dynamic (sort of) from the individual
                      xwd's. But Like I said, I found a soltution that
                      for all purposes will work out just fine.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                            lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                              target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
                            [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                              target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> 20 April 2012 11:13<br>
                            <b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of
                            xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any
                            other shared files</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That's
                        a good point Jonathan but I guess the answer
                        isn't straightforward :-(</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">e.g.
                        I notice Fay has just updated
                        /trunk/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/data.xwd
                        but I'm not sure what changes that contains or
                        whether that brings it in sync or out of sync
                        with the Xerte version or rather versions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As
                        we've listed and discussed the custom stylesheet
                        option has gone missing in the XOT 1.8 beta to
                        which I guess means it's gone missing from the
                        xwd but I'm not sure how or why. Likewise
                        there's the discussion about the order in which
                        the categories and page types appear in the
                        Nottingham template and I guess this applies to
                        Xerte as well as XOT although I haven't checked
                        if this has changed in Xerte too?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
                        guess Julian is king and needs to guide us? ;-)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ron</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
                      1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                            lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                          lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                            target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
                          [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
                            target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> 20 April 2012 10:47<br>
                          <b>To:</b> Xerte Developers Discussion List<br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Location of xwd
                          and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any other
                          shared files</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt">Currently
                        we have separate svns for Xerte and Toolkits.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt">Whilst
                        developing the new model and xwd files I set up
                        a pageWizards folder in the root of the Xerte
                        svn so that they could be developed parallel to
                        the existing models which were still in use.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt">Now
                        we have come to a point where we are testing a
                        beta release of Toolkits that is based on these
                        new models and xwds. Also a beta release of
                        desktop Xerte is imminent, which will also be
                        using the same model and xwd files. They will
                        also share many other files e.g. thumbs, the
                        "common" folder and I also (?) the core files
                        such as editor.swf, XMLengine.swf etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt">Would
                        it not make sense for all the shared files to be
                        kept in one location so that we avoid a
                        situation in which the various copies of the
                        files that currently exist get out of synch with
                        each other? If the Toolkits release is using
                        earlier versions of swf files that have been
                        modified in the desktop Xerte then this is going
                        to create anomalies during testing, since the
                        models were developed in the desktop
                        environment.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt">Where
                        then are we to keep them?<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt">The
                        testing of the XOT beta is raising the need to
                        make some changes to xwd files and possibly also
                        some model files. I don't want to start making
                        these changes whilst there is ambiguity as to
                        which set of files to work from.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt">Personally
                        I have no preference as to where they are kept.
                        I think Tom may have a view on this.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt">Currently
                        there are copies of the new xwd and rlm files in<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt">xerte
                        svn / runtime/pages /<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt">xerte
                        svn / pageWizards/models (rlms) and
                        pageWizards/en-gb (xwds)<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt">XOT
                        svn/
                        modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models
                        (rlms) and wizards (xwds)<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
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                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:144.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">--<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Tom Reijnders<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">TOR Informatica<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Chopinlaan 27<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">5242HM Rosmalen<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Tel: 073 5226191<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Fax: 073 5226196<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system:<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">--<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">Tom Reijnders<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">TOR Informatica<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">Chopinlaan 27<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">5242HM Rosmalen<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">Tel: 073 5226191<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">Fax: 073 5226196<o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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              message or in any attachment.  Any views or opinions
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              This message has been checked for viruses but the contents
              of an attachment<br>
              may still contain software viruses which could damage your
              computer system:<br>
              you are advised to perform your own checks. Email
              communications with the<br>
              University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by
              UK legislation.<br>
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TOR Informatica
Chopinlaan 27
5242HM Rosmalen
Tel: 073 5226191
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