<div><font color="#3333ff">Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, also I’ve been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces into \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in the main set thata ren’t reflected in your own?</font><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Yes my current models will not include any changes you made on Friday. Tom if you want to update those changes go ahead. I will need to check over the tab nav connector as it may also need modifying since the tab navigator has changed. If you see any issues of accessibility that I have missed in the new pages then by all means address those as well.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font color="#3333ff">Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now in my humble opinion.</font></div>
<div><br></div><div>The only reason I implemented the question 1 of 8, you have scored 3 out of 10 etc. in a way that lets you choose whether to put the page number before the count or the count before the page number was because I don't know enough about the variety of languages that Xerte may get translated in to to be sure that one or more of them would not normally express things in what would be to us the reverse order. Just as in English we say telephone number whilst in French it is expresses as "number of the telephone". If this is unlikely to be an issue then there is no point in implementing it this way and simplifying it makes sense. I am happy to be guided by you.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Whilst I have put in an amount of work to help with this next version of Xerte I hope I can remain objective to achieving the optimum solution and not become overly attached to any particular feature that I may have introduced. If there are features that I have introduced that you feel could be improved or need modifying then now is the time to speak up. :-)</div>
<div><br></div><div> I think I understand what you are referring to with the concept of the translation database. I look forward to seeing what you have come up with. If it means that the English set remain the master set that are updated, and then your database allows for other translations file sets to be generated automatically then that will be extremely valuable in coping with the potential confusion that multiple sets of xwds could introduce.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I may not be available now until later today.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Johnathan </div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 March 2012 10:01, Tom Reijnders <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:reijnders@tor.nl">reijnders@tor.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Yes,<br>
<br>
Ultimately, there will be one set. It is NOT needed, but VERY
confusing if we don't do that. I am willing to make sure we merge in
the changes.<br>
<br>
Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled
the 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH
easier to have to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code
you would have to substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain
users NOT to change the $C and $T, but it is much more flexible and
cleaner than the way you do it now in my humble opinion.<br>
<br>
I appreciate all your hard work, and this will give the Xerte
development by the community an enormous boost (I am convinced of
that). Given the fact that you/we CANNOT change the identifiers used
in the xwd (because that would absolutely break the current XOT
LO's, the translation is far for trivial. You really have to know
what you can change and what NOT to touch. Your document explains
that clearly. Also, if we're not careful, we will re-introduce a
maintenance nightmare, if the xwd's of a translation get out of
synch with the English ones.<br>
<br>
My proposal is to have an helper website that will take the English
XWD's as master, and build a translation database from those. Than
the XWD's for the other languages will be generated from the English
XWD and the translation database. If all goes well, I've got
something working by the end of the day...<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Op 19-3-2012 10:40, Julian Tenney schreef:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">How
are we going to merge the files in pageWizards\models with
\templates\pageTemplates\models? We will end up with one set
of models?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Alistair
was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks,
also I’ve been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and
pieces into \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are
possibly changes in the main set thata ren’t reflected in
your own?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 March 2012 19:19<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte Developers Discussion List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Desktop files developments -
ready for testing</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I have now
committed to the svn the new model and xwd files that have
support for internationalisation and the generation of a
single template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd
files. This includes new thumb images were required. I have
also provide draft new versions of the project files
pagetemplate.rlo complete with new xml and xwd files to
provide a variety of project layout / colour change options.
There are a number of new pages including 7 connector pages,
an inventory page and an index changer page (desktop
projects only);</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I have updated
the Project State of Play.rtf file to reflect what I believe
is now the current situation.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">As far as I
can tell the only changes that will be required to be made
to a few of the xwd files is the addition of the name of the
icon once one has been added to the Xerte engine. Other than
that they should be stable enough for translation to begin.
In the svn I have added in the page wizards section a
supporting documents folder which contains a brief guide to
support the translation of xwd files into other languages.
It is in both Open Office and pdf format, so that others can
translate the document if they wish.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Kind regards</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Johnathan</p>
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