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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Brilliant, thanks. If you need any help, let me know,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Inge Donkervoort 12Change<br><b>Sent:</b> 08 March 2012 11:19<br><b>To:</b> xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi Julian,<br><br>The community website (<a href="http://www.xerte.org.uk">www.xerte.org.uk</a>) is technically up and and running. I will try to work on it next week and hope to show you all the first version in a week or two (very basic version) If you agree then we can try to release it together with the new 1.8 version of XOT. <br><br>Bye,<br>Inge</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#A0CF67'>1</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#00AEEF'> 2</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#D71720'> Change</span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Chopinlaan 27<br>5242 HM Rosmalen<br>T 073-5226195<br>F 073-5226196<br>E <a href="mailto:i.donkervoort@12change.eu">i.donkervoort@12change.eu</a><br>I <a href="http://www.12change.eu">www.12change.eu</a> <br><br>T <a href="http://twitter.com/IngeDonke12C">twitter</a><br>L <a href="http://nl.linkedin.com/pub/inge-donkervoort/7/4b/18a">linkedIn</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><br>Op 7-3-2012 18:12, Julian Tenney schreef: <o:p></o:p></p><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Yes, I think this is just growing pains as well. I don't want the deadline to sound like we are imposing one: that's not really what I'm driving at, I'm just trying to coordinate several activities, and resources here are scarce. In time we will have people's capacity to look at stuff again. Maybe it's better to be much more incremental, rather than trying so much at once. There has been loads of activity in the last six months, and I'm really grateful for it. I'm hopeful that the PHP will eventually really stabilise - and we can't think of anything it doesn't do (!).<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I think in the end I'm starting to think of the Xerte Project belonging to the community, rather than to Nottingham - at least that's the direction of travel, with us contributing in part along with everyone else. Our new site is very minimal, just the old one, re-focusing on toolkits as the main product and sorting out some nomenclature re: Xerte 3 which just confuses everyone, and I'm hopeful we get the new community-based site off the ground in the next six months as well.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>1.9 will be the first html5 output. I hope, for October.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Sent: 07 March 2012 16:59<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>To: For Xerte technical developers<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I just have loads on of my own stuff to do (and I don't get anything<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>directly from XOT). The code has been out there for testing for four<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>months after all.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I think we sort of need a roadmap though - because now we've got a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>deadline that is Nottingham's and it is defining everyone's work. But<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>the majority of the work here isn't being done by Nottingham (and is<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>for free). At some point a Nottingham person is going to have to start<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>coding on this again, and it'll be a bit weird (because we've got<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>different coders doing different things, that database queries are<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>sort of PDO in some parts, and not PDO in other parts).<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I get the feeling this is just a growing pain, but we could do with<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>some thoughts on say<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>What will tag / branch 1.9 be?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>What sort of coding standards are there (the only thing really I would<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>say is text strings for internationalisation are upper case - but some<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>of the commits are indent changes - so are we going drupal like? I<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>don't mind what we do - it just makes sense for people looking to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>commit changes they know it'll work. Once we got a commit for the PHP<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>header change for the export code, but I never committed it because it<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>broke Nottingham's export function. This isn't a big deal, but the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>idea of nightly build, or a test version before approval makes sense?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Some sort of PHP doc commenting per file (@file version 1.1 timestamp<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>(unix time at that point?). At the moment there aren't a lot of people<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>supporting the PHP side - and as David says bits are him and bits are<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>me - but I don't understand all of his as well - so there is a point<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>where support will get awkward.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>If everyone uses bugfixes.txt as well that helps a lot, so all fixes<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>are explained simply and listed for people to use. That way everyone<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>can be on the most up to date version without worrying about anything.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I know the SVN does it, as does the RSS feed - but it's not obvious or<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>tied to the install in any place.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Pat<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Julian Tenney<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk"><Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Don't worry about the flash stuff, I can do that. Pat's time is scarce, so<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>if we can help him to help us that will get things moving,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>[<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of David Goodwin<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Sent: 07 March 2012 16:11<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>To: For Xerte technical developers<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>On 7 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Julian Tenney wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>OK, I'll start doing that.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Who shall we assign particular types of bugs to?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I'm up for anything to do with templates, and the xerte stuff.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Volunteers for other types? 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