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<div>><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">"</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">make it clear that XOT as it will be at release of 1.8 won't die or </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">cease to be of use"</span></div>
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<div>Oxymoron.</div>
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<div><font face="tahoma">It will be more useful than ever!</font></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" size="2"><b>From:</b> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett@hotmail.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 29 February 2012 20:22<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release<br>
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<div>I agree Pat, but that's not my point.</div>
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">"</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">make it clear that XOT as it will be at release of 1.8 won't die or </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">cease to be of use"</span></div>
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Well, Authorware as it was at version 7 didn't die or cease to be of use. (I'm making an AW widget as we speak).</span></div>
<div>But I wouldn't counsel any clients to use Authorware.</div>
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> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:12:46 +0000<br>
> From: patrick.lockley@googlemail.com<br>
> To: xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release<br>
> <br>
> every piece of software risks becoming obsolete, so it's important to advance.<br>
> <br>
> if people want to stay as they are, that's fine.<br>
> <br>
> Moving house is never easy.<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Dave Burnett <d_b_burnett@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > On the other hand, the obvious impetus to this direction is the question of<br>
> > Flash's future viability.<br>
> ><br>
> > When I had this knowledge regarding Authorware, I couldn't professionally<br>
> > advise a client to embark on a major development with a tool nearing it's<br>
> > best by date.<br>
> > And I loved Authorware dearly...<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >> From: ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk<br>
> >> To: xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
> >> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:26:49 +0000<br>
> ><br>
> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release<br>
> >><br>
> >> I'm keen to help test especially XOT but I won't be able to do much after<br>
> >> Friday 23rd so the planned schedule sounds good to me.<br>
> >><br>
> >> The only thing I would say is that I think the communication about the<br>
> >> line<br>
> >> in the sand could easily be misinterpreted. I think it's fine to say that<br>
> >> once the html5 development starts the focus will be on whatever is in 560<br>
> >> at<br>
> >> the time but I'm not sure that has to mean there's no further additions or<br>
> >> improvements to the Flash version. Likewise I'd resist saying that<br>
> >> eventually the html5 version will handle every page type in the build and<br>
> >> also make it clear that XOT as it will be at release of 1.8 won't die or<br>
> >> cease to be of use just because of the development of a html5 version.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thomas - I would tread carefully when mentioning any of this - we both<br>
> >> know<br>
> >> some will focus on what they perceive as negatives and potentially create<br>
> >> barriers that don't exist.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Ron<br>
> >><br>
> >> -----Original Message-----<br>
> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley<br>
> >> Sent: 29 February 2012 17:59<br>
> >> To: thomas.rochford@jiscadvance.ac.uk; For Xerte technical developers<br>
> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release<br>
> >><br>
> >> it's be nice to have a roadmap, or an interested parties something<br>
> >><br>
> >> a WP Blog with buddypress?<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Thomas Rochford<br>
> >> <thomas.rochford@jiscadvance.ac.uk> wrote:<br>
> >> > Hi Everyone,<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > I hope it’s alright to let users know about the proposed roadmap. I<br>
> >> > will probably need to give some re-assurance about any conversion of<br>
> >> > existing models and any modifications to the database, authentication<br>
> >> > interfaces, etc. or am I just imagining dragons lurking in the caves?<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Kindest regards, Thomas.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
> >> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp<br>
> >> > Johnathan<br>
> >> > Sent: 29 February 2012 16:21<br>
> >> > To: For Xerte technical developers<br>
> >> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > As far as the model and xwd files are concerned the work on<br>
> >> > internationalisation will be done. Not sure if there will be any<br>
> >> > translations of the xwd files other than English at this point, but<br>
> >> > the work will have been done to expose all the display text in the xwd<br>
> >> files.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Kind regards<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Johnathan<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > On 29 February 2012 15:44, Pat Lockley<br>
> >> > <patrick.lockley@googlemail.com><br>
> >> > wrote:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Are we talking 1.8 (with the internationalisation)? Or 1.7 neatening up?<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Julian Tenney<br>
> >> > <Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:<br>
> >> >> Hi,<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I<br>
> >> >> reckon that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and<br>
> >> >> pieces, and then, from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing<br>
> >> >> what's there and putting that straight. The testing needs to complete<br>
> >> >> by around 23rd (or more or<br>
> >> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Is that OK with everyone?<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing<br>
> >> >> the<br>
> >> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think<br>
> >> >> hard about how to best manage any new functionality to the existing<br>
> >> >> system whilst we develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand<br>
> >> >> that says after this build, play_560 will have an example of every<br>
> >> >> page template in it (this will be my contribution to the testing),<br>
> >> >> and the html5 runtime will (eventually) handle every page type in the<br>
> >> >> build. What's going to be hard is having people adding new templates<br>
> >> >> whilst we try and replicate the functionality in the new stuff.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to<br>
> >> >> the implications of where we are going, because at some point, the<br>
> >> >> HTML5 runtime will become the primary delivery system, and we have to<br>
> >> >> look to a future where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at<br>
> >> >> all. Finger in the air, I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but<br>
> >> maybe less.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to<br>
> >> >> spend any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but<br>
> >> >> will deal with it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I<br>
> >> >> won't be looking to increase the number of templates in the main<br>
> >> distribution.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some<br>
> >> >> sensible framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it<br>
> >> >> easy for developers to add new templates in the future. I still<br>
> >> >> anticipate the xwd driving the wizard form, and therefore some xml<br>
> >> >> payload being delivered to your code - somehow - for you to use to<br>
> >> >> drive your templates, but we haven't even started to really think about<br>
> >> that just yet.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Thanks for all the work since September,<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> J<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----<br>
> >> >> From: Tenney Julian<br>
> >> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04<br>
> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers<br>
> >> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant<br>
> >> >> ________________________________________<br>
> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
> >> >> [xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp<br>
> >> >> Johnathan [johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com]<br>
> >> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51<br>
> >> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List<br>
> >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly<br>
> >> >> serves to focus the mind.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I<br>
> >> >> think still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or<br>
> >> >> completed. I am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over<br>
> >> >> management of the project. I just want to be sure that everything is<br>
> >> >> covered, that there are no misunderstandings or differences in<br>
> >> >> expectation, so that the project delivers on time.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as<br>
> >> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for<br>
> >> convenience.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel<br>
> >> >> free to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to<br>
> >> >> date on progress.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document<br>
> >> >> accordingly in the svn.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Kind regards<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Johnathan<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
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