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<div><br></div><div>I agree Pat, but that's not my point.</div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">"</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">make it clear that XOT as it will be at release of 1.8 won't die or </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">cease to be of use"</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Well, Authorware as it was at version 7 didn't die or cease to be of use. (I'm making an AW widget as we speak).</span></div><div>But I wouldn't counsel any clients to use Authorware.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:12:46 +0000<br>> From: patrick.lockley@googlemail.com<br>> To: xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release<br>> <br>> every piece of software risks becoming obsolete, so it's important to advance.<br>> <br>> if people want to stay as they are, that's fine.<br>> <br>> Moving house is never easy.<br>> <br>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Dave Burnett <d_b_burnett@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > On the other hand, the obvious impetus to this direction is the question of<br>> > Flash's future viability.<br>> ><br>> > When I had this knowledge regarding Authorware, I couldn't professionally<br>> > advise a client to embark on a major development with a tool nearing it's<br>> > best by date.<br>> > And I loved Authorware dearly...<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> From: ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk<br>> >> To: xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> >> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:26:49 +0000<br>> ><br>> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release<br>> >><br>> >> I'm keen to help test especially XOT but I won't be able to do much after<br>> >> Friday 23rd so the planned schedule sounds good to me.<br>> >><br>> >> The only thing I would say is that I think the communication about the<br>> >> line<br>> >> in the sand could easily be misinterpreted. I think it's fine to say that<br>> >> once the html5 development starts the focus will be on whatever is in 560<br>> >> at<br>> >> the time but I'm not sure that has to mean there's no further additions or<br>> >> improvements to the Flash version. Likewise I'd resist saying that<br>> >> eventually the html5 version will handle every page type in the build and<br>> >> also make it clear that XOT as it will be at release of 1.8 won't die or<br>> >> cease to be of use just because of the development of a html5 version.<br>> >><br>> >> Thomas - I would tread carefully when mentioning any of this - we both<br>> >> know<br>> >> some will focus on what they perceive as negatives and potentially create<br>> >> barriers that don't exist.<br>> >><br>> >> Ron<br>> >><br>> >> -----Original Message-----<br>> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley<br>> >> Sent: 29 February 2012 17:59<br>> >> To: thomas.rochford@jiscadvance.ac.uk; For Xerte technical developers<br>> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release<br>> >><br>> >> it's be nice to have a roadmap, or an interested parties something<br>> >><br>> >> a WP Blog with buddypress?<br>> >><br>> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Thomas Rochford<br>> >> <thomas.rochford@jiscadvance.ac.uk> wrote:<br>> >> > Hi Everyone,<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > I hope it’s alright to let users know about the proposed roadmap. I<br>> >> > will probably need to give some re-assurance about any conversion of<br>> >> > existing models and any modifications to the database, authentication<br>> >> > interfaces, etc. or am I just imagining dragons lurking in the caves?<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > Kindest regards, Thomas.<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> >> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp<br>> >> > Johnathan<br>> >> > Sent: 29 February 2012 16:21<br>> >> > To: For Xerte technical developers<br>> >> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > As far as the model and xwd files are concerned the work on<br>> >> > internationalisation will be done. Not sure if there will be any<br>> >> > translations of the xwd files other than English at this point, but<br>> >> > the work will have been done to expose all the display text in the xwd<br>> >> files.<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > Kind regards<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > Johnathan<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > On 29 February 2012 15:44, Pat Lockley<br>> >> > <patrick.lockley@googlemail.com><br>> >> > wrote:<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Are we talking 1.8 (with the internationalisation)? Or 1.7 neatening up?<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Julian Tenney<br>> >> > <Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:<br>> >> >> Hi,<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I<br>> >> >> reckon that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and<br>> >> >> pieces, and then, from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing<br>> >> >> what's there and putting that straight. The testing needs to complete<br>> >> >> by around 23rd (or more or<br>> >> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Is that OK with everyone?<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing<br>> >> >> the<br>> >> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think<br>> >> >> hard about how to best manage any new functionality to the existing<br>> >> >> system whilst we develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand<br>> >> >> that says after this build, play_560 will have an example of every<br>> >> >> page template in it (this will be my contribution to the testing),<br>> >> >> and the html5 runtime will (eventually) handle every page type in the<br>> >> >> build. What's going to be hard is having people adding new templates<br>> >> >> whilst we try and replicate the functionality in the new stuff.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to<br>> >> >> the implications of where we are going, because at some point, the<br>> >> >> HTML5 runtime will become the primary delivery system, and we have to<br>> >> >> look to a future where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at<br>> >> >> all. Finger in the air, I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but<br>> >> maybe less.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to<br>> >> >> spend any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but<br>> >> >> will deal with it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I<br>> >> >> won't be looking to increase the number of templates in the main<br>> >> distribution.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some<br>> >> >> sensible framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it<br>> >> >> easy for developers to add new templates in the future. I still<br>> >> >> anticipate the xwd driving the wizard form, and therefore some xml<br>> >> >> payload being delivered to your code - somehow - for you to use to<br>> >> >> drive your templates, but we haven't even started to really think about<br>> >> that just yet.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Thanks for all the work since September,<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> J<br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >> -----Original Message-----<br>> >> >> From: Tenney Julian<br>> >> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04<br>> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers<br>> >> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant<br>> >> >> ________________________________________<br>> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> >> >> [xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp<br>> >> >> Johnathan [johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com]<br>> >> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51<br>> >> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List<br>> >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly<br>> >> >> serves to focus the mind.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I<br>> >> >> think still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or<br>> >> >> completed. I am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over<br>> >> >> management of the project. I just want to be sure that everything is<br>> >> >> covered, that there are no misunderstandings or differences in<br>> >> >> expectation, so that the project delivers on time.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as<br>> >> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for<br>> >> convenience.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel<br>> >> >> free to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to<br>> >> >> date on progress.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document<br>> >> >> accordingly in the svn.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Kind regards<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Johnathan<br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> >> Xerte-dev mailing list<br>> >> >> Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> >> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee<br>> >> >> and may contain confidential information. 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