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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>At some point I’d like to make the sections definable in the xwd, and then create controls dynamically to toggle each section on and off. That’ll have to wait for now…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 28 February 2012 12:41<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New models and quiz<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s more work than I’ve got time to do to make expandable sections for the form at the moment. Do things get really messy when you just have the normal default section, and an advanced section? Could we get away with another checkbox, or some other control to display nodes with various attributes? We can’t have n checkboxes, but some other way of showing / hiding sections?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m also stuck on the name thing. It’s one of those ‘I can’t believe it’s not possible’ problems… but I’ve not thought of a solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br><b>Sent:</b> 28 February 2012 12:27<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New models and quiz<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>Sorry, I missed the ball being in my court and did not want to appear pushy :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>We discussed this in a thread entitled "Re: Interactive Diagram Page (customHotspots.rlm)"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>The last discussions left me, perhaps wrongly, with the impression that you would be carrying out some further work.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>In my postings I had tried to convey a preference for user defined sections that could be collapsed or expanded by the author when using the form, rather than having a single additional area that was either displayed or not displayed - as once displayed we are still back to a form that may be significantly larger than the page.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>However I also wanted to convey my appreciation that you might not be in a position to commit the time necessary to implement this and that I would accept whatever solution you were able to offer in the time available.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>My post of the 3rd Feb that begins "I'm sorry I was unavailable yesterday afternoon and evening and was not able to respond to you sooner." provides a sample xwd script that demonstrates how I thought it might be implemented from the xwd form definition perspective. In theory any node defined in an xwd could be for display purposes be split into sections each of which could be expanded or contracted, by the author to edit their content. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>Do you think you might be able in the time available to implement something like that?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>Is the ball in my court regarding the resolution of the problem regarding the consuming of the xwd name property for use as the page title and for populating the TOC in a xerte desktop page project - because if it is I'm afraid my racket has just bust several strings ;-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>Johnathan<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>On 28 February 2012 12:00, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>></span> Whilst I am waiting for the situation to resolve<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt'>I think this is your situation to resolve…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt'>;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt'>If you need more, tell me what you need.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br><b>Sent:</b> 28 February 2012 11:59</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New models and quiz<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'>Hello Inge,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'>The quiz has got a fair bit of display text in it, which tends to make the xwd form rather busy. It was actually the first model I converted for translation back in the days when we were just beginning to talk about how this might be implemented. So I am just waiting for any additions to the features offered by xwd forms to be completed, so that I can set up the form to display in the most user friendly way.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'>There has been some discussion regarding possible additions to the features offered by xwd based forms, that would allow for the forms to be divided into sections that could be displayed or hidden. Julian added an "Advanced" flag which allows you to mark some properties as advanced that then only show when the advanced box is checked. I don't know if any further changes are going to be implemented or whether "advanced" is all there will be.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'>Whilst I am waiting for the situation to resolve I am working on the Connector models (formerly known as routed pages), but rest assured the Quiz will be included in the model set.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'>With regard to the detection of the environment in a model i.e. desktop V pageTemplate / XOT I would prefer something automatic in the model. If I set a flag in the xwd it has to default to something, presumably XOT meaning that none of the pages would run out of the box in a desktop pages project. The user would always have to remember to change the setting.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'>I think I may have a possible candidate value that will provide the environment indicator I need. I now have a working MAXOS environment to test it on. So I am going to run a few tests and see how things go.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'>Hope you both enjoyed the skiing!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'>Johnathan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:108.0pt'>On 28 February 2012 11:26, Inge Donkervoort 12Change <<a href="mailto:i.donkervoort@12change.eu" target="_blank">i.donkervoort@12change.eu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:108.0pt'>Hi Jonathan,<br><br>We had a look at your work so far, looking good! 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