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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>How best to tackle the ‘goBack’ functionality? It’s not as simple as remembering the last page, there’s a stack of pages to manage so that you can back up through all the pages. That’s going to take me longer than I’ve got today…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 16 February 2012 10:14<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Enable controls takes an optional second parameter to alpha the controls, so you can fade them when you disable them. I’ll add the contBtn to the lsit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>INTERFACE.prototype.enableControls = function(bool, alpha) {<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> for (var i = 0; i<this.controls.length; i++) {<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> this.controls[i].enabled = bool;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> if (arguments.length>1) {<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> this.controls[i]._alpha = alpha;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> }<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> }<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>};<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 15 February 2012 22:26<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ok have tested this...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>option 1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>rootIcon.enableControls(false); works ok but doesn't disable the continue button and I'm not sure it's best solution without some visual indication that the controls are disabled. However using that in combination with setting the alpha on the relevant buttons works well e.g.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>rootIcon.enableControls(false);<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>_level0.engine.IFC.nextBtn._alpha = 30;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>_level0.engine.IFC.backBtn._alpha = 30;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>_level0.engine.IFC.contButton._alpha = 30;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>_level0.engine.IFC.tocBtn._alpha = 30;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>_level0.engine.IFC.contButton.enabled= 0;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Shouldn't the continue button be part of controls?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I couldn't find a way to set the alpha of controls in one go?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>option 2<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>rootIcon.hideControls() ; works well and is obviously more efficient than all those separate lines of script I had but what's the opposite e.g. rootIcon.showControls(); which doesn't seem to exist?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That said I think option 1 is better e.g. controls still showing but visually disabled.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I put a slightly update example online but noticed the sounds don't play - I guess I need to preload or use an event for that to work online? http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xerte/branching_image_example/<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 15 February 2012 16:36<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Glad you see the point - wasn't sure that would be clear without a proper example but yes I'm excited by lot's of possibilities with this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes I figured it was better placed under Navigators than Interactivity but happy to go along with what you think.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I'm not sure what this has in common with Jonathans scenario page but from what I saw on the first of those two dev days this possibly meets a different need/user. My focus here really is the creation of a visual page where the visuals are created externally but the links are easily added via the interface. I'm pretty sure the staff I work with will like it and put it to good use.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I'll have a look at the alternative controls options. I agree what I did there seems wrong but I searched the mailing list archive and found that as a solution. Will have a look at the other options and test and report back.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So as you'll have seen the hotspot options at the moment include the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>internal link via page title<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>internal link via dropdown e.g. next, prev, first, last<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>external link<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>sound<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The other thing I wondered about was having a pop up option where the text added to that nested page is displayed in a popup when clicked and the popup can be dragged around or closed. Is there anything existing for that?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 15 February 2012 15:57<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I like what you’re driving at here, seems to work well. Not sure about hiding / showing the interface buttons (I prefer to grey out or dull inactive buttons rather than make them appear / disappear, and that would be consistent with other xerte design stuff).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is this a ‘Navigators’ page type?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What does it have in common with Jonathan’s ‘scenario’ page?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 14 February 2012 17:05<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It can be an ugly application too - especially late at night! ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With Jonathan's talk of branching on a regular basis and inspired by the recent rapid e-learning blog post about comic strip type interactions e.g. <a href="http://www.worldwarfighter.com/hajikamal/activity/">http://www.worldwarfighter.com/hajikamal/activity/</a> and <a href="http://www.brokencoworker.com/">http://www.brokencoworker.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I've been working on an additional page template page that I've had in mind for years ;-) that for now I've called branching image. It's basically a revision of the image hotspots page which links to internal or external destinations rather than displaying hot spot panels. Here a quick test - I'm hoping you'll be happy to include this in the official page template? <a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1388941/branching_image_example.zip">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1388941/branching_image_example.zip</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 14 February 2012 16:35<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'>>Xerte is such a beautiful application<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>You made me smile there. It’s all good stuff, and I’m really grateful for all the work you’re putting in. Yes, these are all good questions for the future. It’s a bit like the old Authorware community: all these people who really got what AW was all about, how fast and easy it was to build complex stuff (to a point); it’s the same with the people who get Xerte (I like to think), unfortunately, they remain relatively few in number (but not a bad number for a marketing budget of zero). If you think back though, there was time when Macs were only being used by a very small number of zealous maniacs…</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br><b>Sent:</b> 14 February 2012 16:17<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I can understand why the focus may be on how the data that currently exists in XOT projects can be output as HTML5.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>XOT offers a tremendous facility in which to develop learning resources that can be shared with other institutions, but not a friendly environment for the creation of new page designs.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I believe that people will find in Xerte 2.18 (with the integration of individual page templates and availability in several languages) a really friendly and useful platform in which new page designs for XOT can be created. This opens up the potential for the Xerte / XOT project to benefit from the expertise of people all over the world who may develop and share their page designs. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I hope that in all the thoughts about the future of XOT some weight will be given to how the wider XOT community might be facilitated to create new page designs as XOT moves over to HTML5. Xerte is such a beautiful application perhaps it might inform the solution to this question.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Johnathan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'>On 14 February 2012 14:44, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yeah, carry on, you’re much closer to this than I am at the minute.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We’re currently in a wait and see about some funding for HTML5 output from toolkits: in the long run that’s likely to be where my effort goes, and it’s something we’re going to do anyway – the funding will just help us prioritise the work.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I don’t know what the answer is, but we do need to think about how those two tools (Toolkits, primarily outputting HTML5) and Xerte (making .xml for an AS2 runtime) complement each other. The wizard is possibly the only thing in common in the end: our first attempts will be to take the existing data from toolkits and run it into HTML(5) somehow. I can see the two things existing in parallel for a good while yet (think, maybe 3 – 5 years) but ultimately I can see toolkits de-coupling from Xerte. There is a lot of traction in toolkits, and a lot more potential if it didn’t rely on Flash.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br><b>Sent:</b> 14 February 2012 14:36</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'>I don't know if you have had a chance to work with the version of the Xerte interface that includes Tom's modifications for individual page templates, but it has really enhanced desktop Xerte as a development environment.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'>I can pick a page from a menu and see hints and thumbnails, just as you do in XOT or a page templates project. When I select a page from the menu it creates a folder for the page, copies the page's xwd to the folder and automatically generates the xml for the page based on the xwd, saving it in the page's folder. In addition it adds a new page to the project tree using the page's rlm file.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'>This then leaves me in the desktop xerte environment with each page having its own xwd and xml contained in its own folder. I can tinker with the page's icon structure or just consume the page as originally specified, whilst populating the page's data using the xwd form.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'>I can edit the page's xwd in FlashDevelop to add extra features and update the page's structure to consume them. I have full access to all the project's pages and every page's icons.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'>In desktop Xerte using individual page templates, once a page has been created any change to Xerte's copy of the xwd file or rlm file does not affect the page in the project, unlike in XOT where template.xwd and the set of rlm files are accessed when the project runs, thus resulting in any changes to these files affecting all projects.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'>It is a great environment in which to develop new pages from existing ones.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'>Can you see any problem with the approach I am intending to take with respect to the routed paging? Are you happy for me to continue with this proposed solution to the issue?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'>Johnathan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'>On 14 February 2012 14:09, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OK, maybe we’re just in slightly different worlds, me toolkits, you xerte. You paste in models through the editor? (I can’t remember) and then essentially don’t care about that model ever again: it’s just there waiting for some xml payload to drive it?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Do you actually add the child icons (i.e. essentially the same thing as pasting in the model manually at design time? Or do you create a reference to an external model file a la toolkits?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I can see it is tricky to set the icon property at design time.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There must be a way to set the name property at runtime, but maybe not so easy of you’ve pasted the whole set of icons into the main piece – which is what I think you do..?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br><b>Sent:</b> 14 February 2012 14:05</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:180.0pt'><br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>There may be something wrong in my understanding of how things are working here but my reasons for not going down this route were<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>1) The script you quote is from templates.rlt and does not exist in an individual page template project - though something similar could perhaps be added.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>2) In an individual page template project there is no project wide external xml file, rather each separate page has its own external xml file.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>3) I am seeking to implement a solution that works for both pageTemplates and individual page template projects.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>4) Even if this can be made to work for individual page template files I am still wary of using the name property (title field in the xwd form) as the unique identifier as I think it is already being used to meet a different purpose that could compromise it as a unique id. A project that used routing could easily be compromised by a late decision to change the title of a page. Which would affect every page that had been set up to route to it. With a separate pageID used only as the identifier for routing purposes this issue is avoided.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>Since routed pages are not yet a feature of Xerte it makes sense to get a solution that is robust. Have I missed something in my approach? Is there anything in the approach that I am proposing that would be detrimental to the project?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>I have performed some limited tests with this approach using my scenario page in both pageTemplates and individual page template projects and thus far it has worked reliably.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>Johnathan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>On 14 February 2012 13:32, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>></span> Part of the problem has been the lack of a suitable identifier for each page that could be set within an xwd form<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Why can’t you set attributes on the icon in the makePages script, in these bits of code?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'>if (modName == 'xerteModel'){</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'> newXML = new XML('<PG model="' + extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.modelFile + '"/>');</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'> //is there an initObject...?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'> if (extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.initObject != undefined){</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'> newXML.firstChild.attributes.initObject = extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.initObject;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'> }</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'>} else {</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'> newXML = new XML('<PG model="templatePath + \'models/' + modName + '.rlm\'"/>');</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'>}</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'>newChild = newXML.firstChild;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'>newChild.attributes.title = extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].<a href="http://attributes.name" target="_blank">attributes.name</a>;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'>newChild.attributes.linkID = extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.linkID;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'>if (extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.linkID == _level0.linkID && extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.linkID != undefined){</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'> linkIndex = i;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'>}</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:gray'>ifc.appendChild(newChild);</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>newChild is the xml that is added to the interface. The engine then loads up the modesl identified in each page attached, but does not replace the page icons you create here.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>You won’t see the changes at design time(i.e. populate the name property in the xerte editor), but they can be set at runtime, and thus be used for navigation.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br><b>Sent:</b> 14 February 2012 12:36</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>I have considered how to implement the ability to route pages for some time now. Part of the problem has been the lack of a suitable identifier for each page that could be set within an xwd form. In page wizards I used the "name" field of the page icon, but this is not definable from an xwd form. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>In pageTemplates projects the xwd defined name value is used as the page title and there is no way to set the page Icon name property. The page title is a bad candidate as a unique identifier as its main function is to be a a page title making it potentially lengthy, potentially liable to change, possibly even unique and probably more prone to error in typing when referring to it as a page destination.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>As part of the move to individual page templates I am including in every xwd file an optional property pageID the purpose of which is to act solely as an identifier to enable other pages to locate it in the project.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>I have a number of page wizards that I will be converting to individual page templates that offer routing i.e. the ability to specify a target page which the user will be taken to on completing an action e.g. making a selection from a multiple choice question, clicking on a link in some text etc. These will use the new pageID property.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>This is achieved by using the following code.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>In the rlm file's getPageID script the following opening is used for any page that offers routing<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>if (extXML == undefined){ // Page Wizard <br> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject();<br> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0];<br><br> // routed pages only<br> pageID_array = new Array();<br> for (i = 0; i < rootIcon.pages.length; i++){<br> pageID_array.push(rootIcon.pages[i].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.pageID);<br> }<br><br>} else { // Toolkits <br> myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]);<br> pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject();<br> rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name);<br><br> // routed pages only<br> pageID_array = new Array(); <br> for (i = 0; i < extXML.firstChild.childNodes.length; i++){<br> pageID_array.push(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.pageID);<br> } <br>}<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>This makes available to the routed page an array of every page in the project with a value for pageID where it has been defined. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>Navigation to a page can then be handled in a manner such as<br><br>// navigate to destination page<br>for (i = 0; i < pageID_array.length; i++){<br> if (pageID_array[i] == destPageName){<br> pageFound = "true";<br> destinationIndex = i;<br> rootIcon.gotoPage(destinationIndex); <br> break;<br> } else {<br> pageFound = "false";<br> }<br>}<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>This will open up the potential to create a variety of "routed" pages which all use a standard method of page identification.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>Johnathan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'>On 14 February 2012 09:50, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ah, the other gotcha is that those asfunc calls need the full path to the object.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 14 February 2012 08:24<br><b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>:-)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>sleep worked!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Got it working with _level0.engine.navToPage(pagetitletogoto);</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 14 February 2012 00:43<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>So much for in vino veritas.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: <a href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk" target="_blank">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:31:28 +0000<br>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the suggestion Dave</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>but I've pretty much tried that but it's not working e.g. if I debug(myPageIndex); it's coming up undefined.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Time to shut down and have another look in the morning.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 14 February 2012 00:22<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br><a href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2010-April/004972.html" target="_blank">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2010-April/004972.html</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>??</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I've had a couple pints, so I may be missing the point.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>:-)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: <a href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk" target="_blank">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:10:31 +0000<br>Subject: [Xerte-dev] navigating to page name</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I think I'm missing something silly here :-(</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>In a script icon in a page templates project I want to dynamically pass a page title to navigate to that page.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I know <a href="asfunction:_level0.engine.navToPage,yourpagetitle">Click here or some other wording</a> works in xot as a hyperlink but haven't managed to call the same function in a script icon?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Or is there another/easier way of doing this e.g. navigating to a page title in a page templates project?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Ron</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:216.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal 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