[Xerte-dev] Re: Quiz and Tree/Tracking Label

Tom Reijnders reijnders at tor.nl
Fri Sep 8 11:27:29 BST 2017


Apologies for answering only to you, it was my full intention to answer 
the list. Honestly :-)

I do agree that 'A - Tree/Tracking Label' is confusing, but also because 
of the abbreviation of Answer and Question.

Like I said, I prefer to make this 'Answer - Tree/Tracking label' or 
even better 'Answer label'

What would be interesting to know is, if you can go back to the people 
who asked and were confused, and explained the functionality: how would 
they like it to be called?

Tom

Op 8-9-2017 om 11:43 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
> Can we please keep the discussion in the open? I’d appreciate other’s 
> points of view. Sometimes there is a good reason to take the 
> discussion off list, but we ought to be discussing in the open 
> otherwise. We can’t function well as a community if people are not 
> aware of what is being discussed and have an opportunity to 
> contribute. If we would prefer to have a private list, rather than a 
> public list for this then we can discuss that, but I don’t see what’s 
> wrong with discussing general developments in public. It shows people 
> who are interested that activity is going on, and even provides the 
> means for them to contribute. It is defined in our governance policy: 
> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/wiki/6.-Decision-Making-Process. 
>
>
> From my point of view the confusing part is ‘Tree/Tracking label’. 
> Users do not know what that means. They probably don’t know what tree 
> we refer to. They may not be using, or interested, in tracking. They 
> want to make a quiz out of questions and answers, that’s the feedback 
> I’m getting.
>
> Julian
>
> *From:*Tom Reijnders [mailto:reijnders at tor.nl]
> *Sent:* 08 September 2017 10:34
> *To:* Tenney Julian <cczjrt at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [Xerte-dev] Quiz and Tree/Tracking Label
>
> I think the confusing part is the A
>
> So although I understand that we want to keep these texts short, I 
> think we should change it to Answer - Tree/Tracking label, or if you 
> prefer Answer label
>
> Same holds for other similar labels like Q - Tree/Tracking label of 
> course.
>
> Op 8-9-2017 om 11:27 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     We’ve had some comments from users saying they don’t understand
>     the ‘A – Tree/Tracking label’ string in the label field. I tend to
>     agree this fails the FWS test. I don’t have any problem with the
>     functionality as such, I can see it’s useful, but I think we need
>     to change the string in the label field. ‘A – Tree/Tracking label’
>     is not intuitive, and I’ve had some ‘huh?’ emails from some
>     reasonably adept users about it.
>
>     In the past we had ‘question’ and ‘option’, which led to the tree
>     view like…
>
>     Question
>
>     -Option
>
>     -Option
>
>     -Option
>
>     Question
>
>     -Option
>
>     -Option
>
>     -Option
>
>     Etc
>
>     Having the ability to control how the tree looks is an improvement
>     on this, although we now have the same situation (albeit editable)
>     where you produce this:
>
>     Q - Tree/Tracking label
>
>     -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
>     -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
>     -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
>     Q - Tree/Tracking label
>
>     -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
>     -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
>     -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
>     etc
>
>     This in my view is worse than what we had before. People know what
>     a ‘question’ and an ‘option’ are. They haven’t the faintest idea
>     what ‘A - Tree/Tracking label’ means, so I would favour taking it
>     back to ‘question’ and ‘option’.
>
>     Better would be if we could auto-increment the items as they are
>     added so you get
>
>     Question1
>
>     -Option1
>
>     -Option2
>
>     -Option3
>
>     Question2
>
>     -Option1
>
>     -Option2
>
>     -Option3
>
>     etc
>
>     …but I don’t think we have that functionality anywhere in the
>     editor at present. If we added a property to the xwd to say <blah…
>     …increment=”true”/> presumably it wouldn’t be too difficult to add
>     that functionality, and just add n to the end of the string based
>     on a count of the children.
>
>     What do you think?
>
>     Julian
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