From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 4 10:35:34 2016 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:35:34 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading images Message-ID: We have a user who is having problems uploading images via the wysiwyg button. She is getting the error 'unable to connect to backend' when clicking the 'Browse Server' button. She seems to be able to sometimes upload but more often than not can't. I can't recreate her problems. Has anyone seen this before? Any ideas? A search of the error message and elfinder seems to say that people solved this by updating their version of elfinder but since it's the first time I've come across this I'm sure there must be something else going on. Thanks Fay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 11 12:16:22 2016 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 12:16:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Management - shared settings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006801d1ab76$8d4428c0$a7cc7a40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Is the owner not able to do this? Has the owner left? You can us the give project option via management to 'change ownership' to someone else (or yourself) and then the new owner can add the new shared users. But be careful with this unless you are using the latest code. There was an issue where if you were already a shared editor and then via management someone mad you the owner too then that caused a problem because you can't be owner and shared editor at the same time. Tom fixed that but it was a relatively recent fix. The way round that with the older code is to un-share editing access with whoever you want to make the owner first. Longer term we should probably change the management code so that an admin can manage the shared access via the properties view. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 11 May 2016 10:59 To: Xerte Dev Mailing List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Management - shared settings I need to add a new editor to some projects (that aren't mine). I know I have done this through the management interface before but can't work out how I did it now. I can find the projects in the 'Users Projects' section and can open the properties panel but when I go to the Shared settings tab I just see a list of the current editors rather than anyway to add a new one. Any ideas how to do this? Thanks Fay This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 11 12:25:54 2016 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 11:25:54 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Management - shared settings In-Reply-To: <006801d1ab76$8d4428c0$a7cc7a40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> References: <006801d1ab76$8d4428c0$a7cc7a40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Ron, I think you've reminded me that I swapped owner to be me briefly and then added an editor like that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sent: 11 May 2016 12:16 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Management - shared settings Is the owner not able to do this? Has the owner left? You can us the give project option via management to 'change ownership' to someone else (or yourself) and then the new owner can add the new shared users. But be careful with this unless you are using the latest code. There was an issue where if you were already a shared editor and then via management someone mad you the owner too then that caused a problem because you can't be owner and shared editor at the same time. Tom fixed that but it was a relatively recent fix. The way round that with the older code is to un-share editing access with whoever you want to make the owner first. Longer term we should probably change the management code so that an admin can manage the shared access via the properties view. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 11 May 2016 10:59 To: Xerte Dev Mailing List > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Management - shared settings I need to add a new editor to some projects (that aren't mine). I know I have done this through the management interface before but can't work out how I did it now. I can find the projects in the 'Users Projects' section and can open the properties panel but when I go to the Shared settings tab I just see a list of the current editors rather than anyway to add a new one. Any ideas how to do this? Thanks Fay This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From info at pgogywebstuff.com Wed May 11 13:02:44 2016 From: info at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat Lockley (Pgogy)) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 13:02:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Management - shared settings In-Reply-To: References: <006801d1ab76$8d4428c0$a7cc7a40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: <0446ad01935e0ec2dbbfb922b78b1693@pgogywebstuff.com> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/website_code/php/properties/sharing_status_template.php line 58 i am pretty sure these used to have || is_admin in the if statement and that would solve the problem On 2016-05-11 12:25, Fay Cross wrote: > Thanks Ron, I think you've reminded me that I swapped owner to be me > briefly and then added an editor like that. > > FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF > ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > SENT: 11 May 2016 12:16 > TO: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: Management - shared settings > > Is the owner not able to do this? Has the owner left? > > You can us the give project option via management to 'change > ownership' to someone else (or yourself) and then the new owner can > add the new shared users. But be careful with this unless you are > using the latest code. There was an issue where if you were already a > shared editor and then via management someone mad you the owner too > then that caused a problem because you can't be owner and shared > editor at the same time. Tom fixed that but it was a relatively recent > fix. The way round that with the older code is to un-share editing > access with whoever you want to make the owner first. > > Longer term we should probably change the management code so that an > admin can manage the shared access via the properties view. > > HTH > > Ron > > FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF Fay > Cross > SENT: 11 May 2016 10:59 > TO: Xerte Dev Mailing List > SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Management - shared settings > > I need to add a new editor to some projects (that aren't mine). > > I know I have done this through the management interface before but > can't work out how I did it now. I can find the projects in the 'Users > Projects' section and can open the properties panel but when I go to > the Shared settings tab I just see a list of the current editors > rather than anyway to add a new one. > > Any ideas how to do this? > > Thanks > > Fay > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Pgogy Webstuff pgogywebstuff.com From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 16 19:25:16 2016 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 20:25:16 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template Message-ID: <4644c8f0-24ef-a6d2-1be8-f11fcab02625@tor.nl> Hi All, When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the models again and see if we can improve them. One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and delete the inline styles from the model. 1. It make it possible to override model specific css 2. It make it possible to override model specific css in the themes Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use independent html id's and classes. What I would like to propose is to: 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are unique for that model (by prefixing?) 2. Extract the inline css from the model files in a central file Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and in a theme. Any objections and/or other suggestions? Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at pgogywebstuff.com Mon May 16 19:46:02 2016 From: info at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy)) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 19:46:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Message-ID: Place one model specific id at a higher level?Or change body class on page turn? -------- Original message -------- From: Tom Reijnders Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) To: Xerte Dev Mailing List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template Hi All, When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the models again and see if we can improve them. One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and delete the inline styles from the model. It make it possible to override model specific css It make it possible to override model specific css in the themes Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use independent html id's and classes. What I would like to propose is to: Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are unique for that model (by prefixing?) Extract the inline css from the model files in a central file Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and in a theme. Any objections and/or other suggestions? Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): > Place one model specific id at a higher level? > Or change body class on page turn? > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tom Reijnders > Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) > To: Xerte Dev Mailing List > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Hi All, > > When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed > that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the > models again and see if we can improve them. > > One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific > css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and > delete the inline styles from the model. > > 1. It make it possible to override model specific css > 2. It make it possible to override model specific css in the themes > > Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use > independent html id's and classes. > > What I would like to propose is to: > > 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are unique > for that model (by prefixing?) > 2. Extract the inline css from the model files in a central file > > Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and > in a theme. > > Any objections and/or other suggestions? > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 17 07:22:04 2016 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 06:22:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template In-Reply-To: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl> References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl> Message-ID: Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would we have implemented it? With specific model ids? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly.... Thank you! Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): Place one model specific id at a higher level? Or change body class on page turn? -------- Original message -------- From: Tom Reijnders Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) To: Xerte Dev Mailing List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template Hi All, When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the models again and see if we can improve them. One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and delete the inline styles from the model. 1. It make it possible to override model specific css 2. It make it possible to override model specific css in the themes Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use independent html id's and classes. What I would like to propose is to: 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are unique for that model (by prefixing?) 2. Extract the inline css from the model files in a central file Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and in a theme. Any objections and/or other suggestions? Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue May 17 10:29:37 2016 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 10:29:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template In-Reply-To: References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl>, Message-ID: When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the html/css is built and where it would be loaded to... So you'd just have a couple of methods like buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... } buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... } The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage. Either way it would be customisable.... It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility, including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert the rest. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would we have implemented it? With specific model ids? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly.... Thank you! Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): Place one model specific id at a higher level? Or change body class on page turn? -------- Original message -------- From: Tom Reijnders Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) To: Xerte Dev Mailing List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template Hi All, When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the models again and see if we can improve them. One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and delete the inline styles from the model. 1. It make it possible to override model specific css 2. It make it possible to override model specific css in the themes Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use independent html id's and classes. What I would like to propose is to: 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are unique for that model (by prefixing?) 2. Extract the inline css from the model files in a central file Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and in a theme. Any objections and/or other suggestions? Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From info at pgogywebstuff.com Tue May 17 11:19:16 2016 From: info at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat Lockley (Pgogy)) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 06:19:16 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template In-Reply-To: References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl>, Message-ID: <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> Would that work if locally ran exported? On 2016-05-17 05:29, Smith, John wrote: > When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object > oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all > js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page > model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or > anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other > container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page > models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for > example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd > pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the > html/css is built and where it would be loaded to... > > So you'd just have a couple of methods like > > buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... } > > buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... } > > The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on > the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage. > Either way it would be customisable.... > > It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility, > including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page > which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single > page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert > the rest. > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, > Scotland, United Kingdom > > **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at > hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. > **** > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would > we have implemented it? With specific model ids? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > > Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly.... > > Thank you! > > Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): > Place one model specific id at a higher level? > Or change body class on page turn? > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tom Reijnders > Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) > To: Xerte Dev Mailing List > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Hi All, > > When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed > that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the > models again and see if we can improve them. > > One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific > css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and > delete the inline styles from the model. > > 1. It make it possible to override model specific css > 2. It make it possible to override model specific css in the themes > > Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use > independent html id's and classes. > > What I would like to propose is to: > > 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are > unique for that model (by prefixing?) > 2. Extract the inline css from the model files in a central file > > Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and > in a theme. > > Any objections and/or other suggestions? > > Tom > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. 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Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. -- Pgogy Webstuff pgogywebstuff.com From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue May 17 11:24:11 2016 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 11:24:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template In-Reply-To: <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl>, , <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Don't see why not.... it would all be js which has to run to generate the LO anyway. JS is one of the things least affected by browser security as you can just load it into the head programatically and as long as it's the same domain you can run it. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) [info at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 17 May 2016 11:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Cc: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Would that work if locally ran exported? On 2016-05-17 05:29, Smith, John wrote: > When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object > oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all > js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page > model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or > anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other > container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page > models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for > example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd > pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the > html/css is built and where it would be loaded to... > > So you'd just have a couple of methods like > > buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... } > > buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... } > > The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on > the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage. > Either way it would be customisable.... > > It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility, > including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page > which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single > page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert > the rest. > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, > Scotland, United Kingdom > > **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at > hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. > **** > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would > we have implemented it? With specific model ids? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > > Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly.... > > Thank you! > > Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): > Place one model specific id at a higher level? > Or change body class on page turn? > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tom Reijnders > Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) > To: Xerte Dev Mailing List > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Hi All, > > When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed > that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the > models again and see if we can improve them. > > One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific > css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and > delete the inline styles from the model. > > 1. It make it possible to override model specific css > 2. It make it possible to override model specific css in the themes > > Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use > independent html id's and classes. > > What I would like to propose is to: > > 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are > unique for that model (by prefixing?) > 2. Extract the inline css from the model files in a central file > > Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and > in a theme. > > Any objections and/or other suggestions? > > Tom > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > > University of Nottingham. > > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > > University of Nottingham. > > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. -- Pgogy Webstuff pgogywebstuff.com Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 17 12:02:22 2016 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 12:02:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template In-Reply-To: References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl>, , <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Is it worth scheduling an online meeting to discuss all this in detail? There might be scope to discuss when we might all get together to work on this too? I know Tom, Inge and Fay are off to the Apero conference at the end of this week and I think Julian is swamped with other stuff but perhaps once our 'conference reps' are back they could update us from the conference and we could discuss this and other developments at the same time? Worth doing a doodle to check availability say week beginning 6th June? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 May 2016 11:24 To: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) ; For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Don't see why not.... it would all be js which has to run to generate the LO anyway. JS is one of the things least affected by browser security as you can just load it into the head programatically and as long as it's the same domain you can run it. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) [info at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 17 May 2016 11:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Cc: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Would that work if locally ran exported? On 2016-05-17 05:29, Smith, John wrote: > When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object > oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all > js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page > model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or > anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other > container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page > models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for > example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd > pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the > html/css is built and where it would be loaded to... > > So you'd just have a couple of methods like > > buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... } > > buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... } > > The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on > the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage. > Either way it would be customisable.... > > It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility, > including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page > which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single > page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert > the rest. > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > > **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at > hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. > **** > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would > we have implemented it? With specific model ids? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > > Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly.... > > Thank you! > > Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): > Place one model specific id at a higher level? > Or change body class on page turn? > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tom Reijnders > Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) > To: Xerte Dev Mailing List > c.uk> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Hi All, > > When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed > that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the > models again and see if we can improve them. > > One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific > css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and > delete the inline styles from the model. > > 1. It make it possible to override model specific css 2. It make > it possible to override model specific css in the themes > > Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use > independent html id's and classes. > > What I would like to propose is to: > > 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are > unique for that model (by prefixing?) 2. Extract the inline css from > the model files in a central file > > Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and > in a theme. > > Any objections and/or other suggestions? > > Tom > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > > University of Nottingham. > > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > > University of Nottingham. > > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk uk> > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 17 12:49:24 2016 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 11:49:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template In-Reply-To: <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl>, , <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> , <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: Good idea ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sent: 17 May 2016 12:02 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Is it worth scheduling an online meeting to discuss all this in detail? There might be scope to discuss when we might all get together to work on this too? I know Tom, Inge and Fay are off to the Apero conference at the end of this week and I think Julian is swamped with other stuff but perhaps once our 'conference reps' are back they could update us from the conference and we could discuss this and other developments at the same time? Worth doing a doodle to check availability say week beginning 6th June? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 May 2016 11:24 To: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) ; For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Don't see why not.... it would all be js which has to run to generate the LO anyway. JS is one of the things least affected by browser security as you can just load it into the head programatically and as long as it's the same domain you can run it. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) [info at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 17 May 2016 11:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Cc: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Would that work if locally ran exported? On 2016-05-17 05:29, Smith, John wrote: > When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object > oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all > js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page > model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or > anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other > container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page > models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for > example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd > pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the > html/css is built and where it would be loaded to... > > So you'd just have a couple of methods like > > buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... } > > buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... } > > The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on > the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage. > Either way it would be customisable.... > > It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility, > including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page > which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single > page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert > the rest. > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > > **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at > hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. > **** > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would > we have implemented it? With specific model ids? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > > Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly.... > > Thank you! > > Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): > Place one model specific id at a higher level? > Or change body class on page turn? > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tom Reijnders > Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) > To: Xerte Dev Mailing List > c.uk> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Hi All, > > When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed > that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the > models again and see if we can improve them. > > One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific > css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and > delete the inline styles from the model. > > 1. It make it possible to override model specific css 2. It make > it possible to override model specific css in the themes > > Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use > independent html id's and classes. > > What I would like to propose is to: > > 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are > unique for that model (by prefixing?) 2. Extract the inline css from > the model files in a central file > > Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and > in a theme. > > Any objections and/or other suggestions? > > Tom > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 17 13:19:19 2016 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 13:19:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template In-Reply-To: References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl>, , <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> , <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: <026301d1b036$5789b460$069d1d20$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Ok Doodle link is http://doodle.com/poll/gxxiv9474y63v9ns would be good if everyone could respond by the end of this week especially those flying off! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 17 May 2016 12:49 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Good idea ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sent: 17 May 2016 12:02 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Is it worth scheduling an online meeting to discuss all this in detail? There might be scope to discuss when we might all get together to work on this too? I know Tom, Inge and Fay are off to the Apero conference at the end of this week and I think Julian is swamped with other stuff but perhaps once our 'conference reps' are back they could update us from the conference and we could discuss this and other developments at the same time? Worth doing a doodle to check availability say week beginning 6th June? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 May 2016 11:24 To: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) ; For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Don't see why not.... it would all be js which has to run to generate the LO anyway. JS is one of the things least affected by browser security as you can just load it into the head programatically and as long as it's the same domain you can run it. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) [info at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 17 May 2016 11:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Cc: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Would that work if locally ran exported? On 2016-05-17 05:29, Smith, John wrote: > When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object > oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all > js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page > model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or > anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other > container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page > models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for > example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd > pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the > html/css is built and where it would be loaded to... > > So you'd just have a couple of methods like > > buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... } > > buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... } > > The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on > the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage. > Either way it would be customisable.... > > It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility, > including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page > which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single > page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert > the rest. > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > > **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at > hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. > **** > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would > we have implemented it? With specific model ids? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > > Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly.... > > Thank you! > > Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): > Place one model specific id at a higher level? > Or change body class on page turn? > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tom Reijnders > Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) > To: Xerte Dev Mailing List > c.uk> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Hi All, > > When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed > that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the > models again and see if we can improve them. > > One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific > css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and > delete the inline styles from the model. > > 1. It make it possible to override model specific css 2. It make > it possible to override model specific css in the themes > > Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use > independent html id's and classes. > > What I would like to propose is to: > > 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are > unique for that model (by prefixing?) 2. Extract the inline css from > the model files in a central file > > Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and > in a theme. > > Any objections and/or other suggestions? > > Tom > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. 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From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 18 10:24:39 2016 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 09:24:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template In-Reply-To: <026301d1b036$5789b460$069d1d20$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl>, , <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> , <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <026301d1b036$5789b460$069d1d20$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: I've replied to the Doodle but wanted to put some of my thoughts here so I don't forget before we catch up. I agree with John's email about restructuring the models, including adding html / css via JS. This would make a lot of other things a lot easier. I'm not sure we would want to go down the route of taking all the model css out into a central file as doesn't that move away from being able to easily customise / add in new pages etc.? We moved away from having one large xwd file to having one for each model so I'm not sure we'd want one large css file for models that we'd have to add to every time we add a new page type. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sent: 17 May 2016 13:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Ok Doodle link is http://doodle.com/poll/gxxiv9474y63v9ns would be good if everyone could respond by the end of this week especially those flying off! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 17 May 2016 12:49 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Good idea ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sent: 17 May 2016 12:02 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Is it worth scheduling an online meeting to discuss all this in detail? There might be scope to discuss when we might all get together to work on this too? I know Tom, Inge and Fay are off to the Apero conference at the end of this week and I think Julian is swamped with other stuff but perhaps once our 'conference reps' are back they could update us from the conference and we could discuss this and other developments at the same time? Worth doing a doodle to check availability say week beginning 6th June? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 May 2016 11:24 To: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) ; For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Don't see why not.... it would all be js which has to run to generate the LO anyway. JS is one of the things least affected by browser security as you can just load it into the head programatically and as long as it's the same domain you can run it. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) [info at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 17 May 2016 11:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Cc: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Would that work if locally ran exported? On 2016-05-17 05:29, Smith, John wrote: > When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object > oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all > js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page > model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or > anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other > container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page > models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for > example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd > pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the > html/css is built and where it would be loaded to... > > So you'd just have a couple of methods like > > buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... } > > buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... } > > The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on > the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage. > Either way it would be customisable.... > > It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility, > including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page > which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single > page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert > the rest. > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > > **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at > hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. > **** > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would > we have implemented it? With specific model ids? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > > Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly.... > > Thank you! > > Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): > Place one model specific id at a higher level? > Or change body class on page turn? > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tom Reijnders > Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) > To: Xerte Dev Mailing List > c.uk> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Hi All, > > When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed > that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the > models again and see if we can improve them. > > One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific > css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and > delete the inline styles from the model. > > 1. It make it possible to override model specific css 2. It make > it possible to override model specific css in the themes > > Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use > independent html id's and classes. > > What I would like to propose is to: > > 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are > unique for that model (by prefixing?) 2. Extract the inline css from > the model files in a central file > > Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and > in a theme. > > Any objections and/or other suggestions? > > Tom > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed May 18 10:45:48 2016 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 10:45:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template In-Reply-To: References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl>, , <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> , <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <026301d1b036$5789b460$069d1d20$@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, Message-ID: Yeah, I agree that as much of the page model stuff should stay in there as possible. There are ways to do what we wish to achieve without removing these things and I think the idea of adding a body class is a good one. Alternatively though you could add a different (or the same) class to the header and footer and mix the themes... This would be a good time to also refactor all the "Colour Changer" classes into the page models too as keeping them up to date is a pain... I'll deal with the Doodle poll today or tomorrow once I speak to my colleagues about who is doing what; i'm not at my regular desk just now i'm trialling one of those standing desks for a while in a different location. John ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross [Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 18 May 2016 10:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template I've replied to the Doodle but wanted to put some of my thoughts here so I don't forget before we catch up. I agree with John's email about restructuring the models, including adding html / css via JS. This would make a lot of other things a lot easier. I'm not sure we would want to go down the route of taking all the model css out into a central file as doesn't that move away from being able to easily customise / add in new pages etc.? We moved away from having one large xwd file to having one for each model so I'm not sure we'd want one large css file for models that we'd have to add to every time we add a new page type. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sent: 17 May 2016 13:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Ok Doodle link is http://doodle.com/poll/gxxiv9474y63v9ns would be good if everyone could respond by the end of this week especially those flying off! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 17 May 2016 12:49 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Good idea ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sent: 17 May 2016 12:02 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Is it worth scheduling an online meeting to discuss all this in detail? There might be scope to discuss when we might all get together to work on this too? I know Tom, Inge and Fay are off to the Apero conference at the end of this week and I think Julian is swamped with other stuff but perhaps once our 'conference reps' are back they could update us from the conference and we could discuss this and other developments at the same time? Worth doing a doodle to check availability say week beginning 6th June? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 May 2016 11:24 To: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) ; For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Don't see why not.... it would all be js which has to run to generate the LO anyway. JS is one of the things least affected by browser security as you can just load it into the head programatically and as long as it's the same domain you can run it. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) [info at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 17 May 2016 11:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Cc: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Would that work if locally ran exported? On 2016-05-17 05:29, Smith, John wrote: > When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object > oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all > js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page > model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or > anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other > container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page > models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for > example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd > pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the > html/css is built and where it would be loaded to... > > So you'd just have a couple of methods like > > buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... } > > buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... } > > The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on > the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage. > Either way it would be customisable.... > > It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility, > including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page > which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single > page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert > the rest. > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > > **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at > hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. > **** > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would > we have implemented it? With specific model ids? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > > Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly.... > > Thank you! > > Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): > Place one model specific id at a higher level? > Or change body class on page turn? > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tom Reijnders > Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) > To: Xerte Dev Mailing List > c.uk> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Hi All, > > When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed > that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the > models again and see if we can improve them. > > One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific > css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and > delete the inline styles from the model. > > 1. It make it possible to override model specific css 2. It make > it possible to override model specific css in the themes > > Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use > independent html id's and classes. > > What I would like to propose is to: > > 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are > unique for that model (by prefixing?) 2. Extract the inline css from > the model files in a central file > > Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and > in a theme. > > Any objections and/or other suggestions? > > Tom > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 18 12:37:04 2016 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 11:37:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template In-Reply-To: References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl>, , <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> , <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <026301d1b036$5789b460$069d1d20$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: I'm not sure we would want to go down the route of taking all the model css out into a central file as doesn't that move away from being able to easily customise / add in new pages etc.? We moved away from having one large xwd file to having one for each model so I'm not sure we'd want one large css file for models that we'd have to add to every time we add a new page type. That's what I was worried about as well, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 18 May 2016 10:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template I've replied to the Doodle but wanted to put some of my thoughts here so I don't forget before we catch up. I agree with John's email about restructuring the models, including adding html / css via JS. This would make a lot of other things a lot easier. I'm not sure we would want to go down the route of taking all the model css out into a central file as doesn't that move away from being able to easily customise / add in new pages etc.? We moved away from having one large xwd file to having one for each model so I'm not sure we'd want one large css file for models that we'd have to add to every time we add a new page type. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sent: 17 May 2016 13:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Ok Doodle link is http://doodle.com/poll/gxxiv9474y63v9ns would be good if everyone could respond by the end of this week especially those flying off! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 17 May 2016 12:49 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Good idea ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > on behalf of ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > Sent: 17 May 2016 12:02 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Is it worth scheduling an online meeting to discuss all this in detail? There might be scope to discuss when we might all get together to work on this too? I know Tom, Inge and Fay are off to the Apero conference at the end of this week and I think Julian is swamped with other stuff but perhaps once our 'conference reps' are back they could update us from the conference and we could discuss this and other developments at the same time? Worth doing a doodle to check availability say week beginning 6th June? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 May 2016 11:24 To: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) >; For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Don't see why not.... it would all be js which has to run to generate the LO anyway. JS is one of the things least affected by browser security as you can just load it into the head programatically and as long as it's the same domain you can run it. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) [info at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 17 May 2016 11:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Cc: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template Would that work if locally ran exported? On 2016-05-17 05:29, Smith, John wrote: > When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object > oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all > js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page > model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or > anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other > container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page > models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for > example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd > pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the > html/css is built and where it would be loaded to... > > So you'd just have a couple of methods like > > buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... } > > buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... } > > The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on > the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage. > Either way it would be customisable.... > > It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility, > including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page > which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single > page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert > the rest. > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > > **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at > hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. > **** > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would > we have implemented it? With specific model ids? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06 > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > > Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly.... > > Thank you! > > Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): > Place one model specific id at a higher level? > Or change body class on page turn? > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tom Reijnders > > Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) > To: Xerte Dev Mailing List > > c.uk> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Hi All, > > When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed > that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the > models again and see if we can improve them. > > One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific > css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and > delete the inline styles from the model. > > 1. It make it possible to override model specific css 2. It make > it possible to override model specific css in the themes > > Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use > independent html id's and classes. > > What I would like to propose is to: > > 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are > unique for that model (by prefixing?) 2. Extract the inline css from > the model files in a central file > > Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and > in a theme. > > Any objections and/or other suggestions? > > Tom > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > > University of Nottingham. > > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed May 18 14:07:20 2016 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 15:07:20 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template In-Reply-To: References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl> <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <026301d1b036$5789b460$069d1d20$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: <573C6908.7050700@tor.nl> Ok, not one large file. That's ok with me, and I do agree with the arguments. Op 18-5-2016 om 13:37 schreef Julian Tenney: > > I'm not sure we would want to go down the route of taking all the > model css out into a central file as doesn't that move away from being > able to easily customise / add in new pages etc.? We moved away from > having one large xwd file to having one for each model so I'm not sure > we'd want one large css file for models that we'd have to add to every > time we add a new page type. > > That's what I was worried about as well, > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross > Sent: 18 May 2016 10:25 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > I've replied to the Doodle but wanted to put some of my thoughts here > so I don't forget before we catch up. > > I agree with John's email about restructuring the models, including > adding html / css via JS. This would make a lot of other things a lot > easier. > > I'm not sure we would want to go down the route of taking all the > model css out into a central file as doesn't that move away from being > able to easily customise / add in new pages etc.? We moved away from > having one large xwd file to having one for each model so I'm not sure > we'd want one large css file for models that we'd have to add to every > time we add a new page type. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > > Sent: 17 May 2016 13:19 > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Ok Doodle link is http://doodle.com/poll/gxxiv9474y63v9ns would be > good if everyone could respond by the end of this week especially > those flying off! > > ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > > Sent: 17 May 2016 12:49 > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Good idea > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > on behalf of > ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > > > > Sent: 17 May 2016 12:02 > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Is it worth scheduling an online meeting to discuss all this in detail? > > There might be scope to discuss when we might all get together to work > on this too? > > I know Tom, Inge and Fay are off to the Apero conference at the end of > this week and I think Julian is swamped with other stuff but perhaps > once our 'conference reps' are back they could update us from the > conference and we could discuss this and other developments at the > same time? Worth doing a doodle to check availability say week > beginning 6th June? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 17 May 2016 11:24 > > To: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) >; For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Don't see why not.... it would all be js which has to run to generate > the LO anyway. JS is one of the things least affected by browser > security as you can just load it into the head programatically and as > long as it's the same domain you can run it. > > Regards, > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens > Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > > **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at > hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning > Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ > > From: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) [info at pgogywebstuff.com] > > Sent: 17 May 2016 11:19 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Cc: Smith, John > > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > Would that work if locally ran exported? > > On 2016-05-17 05:29, Smith, John wrote: > > > When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object > > > oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all > > > js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page > > > model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or > > > anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other > > > container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page > > > models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for > > > example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd > > > pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the > > > html/css is built and where it would be loaded to... > > > > > > So you'd just have a couple of methods like > > > > > > buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... } > > > > > > buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... } > > > > > > The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on > > > the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage. > > > Either way it would be customisable.... > > > > > > It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility, > > > including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page > > > which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single > > > page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert > > > the rest. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John Smith > > > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > > > > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > Glasgow Caledonian > > > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > > > > > > **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at > > > hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning > Technologists will respond. > > > **** > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > > > Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > > > > > Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would > > > we have implemented it? With specific model ids? > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > > Reijnders > > > Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template > > > > > > > > > Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly.... > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy): > > > Place one model specific id at a higher level? > > > Or change body class on page turn? > > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > > From: Tom Reijnders > > > > Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00) > > > To: Xerte Dev Mailing List > > > > > > c.uk> > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed > > > that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the > > > models again and see if we can improve them. > > > > > > One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific > > > css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and > > > delete the inline styles from the model. > > > > > > 1. It make it possible to override model specific css 2. It make > > > it possible to override model specific css in the themes > > > > > > Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use > > > independent html id's and classes. > > > > > > What I would like to propose is to: > > > > > > 1. Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are > > > unique for that model (by prefixing?) 2. Extract the inline css from > > > the model files in a central file > > > > > > Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and > > > in a theme. > > > > > > Any objections and/or other suggestions? > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Reijnders > > > > > > TOR Informatica > > > > > > Chopinlaan 27 > > > > > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > > > > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > > > > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > > > > > and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sat May 28 23:23:59 2016 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 23:23:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Dialog comment field In-Reply-To: <574A105E.2080402@12change.eu> References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl> <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <026301d1b036$5789b460$069d1d20$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <573C6908.7050700@tor.nl>,<574A105E.2080402@12change.eu> Message-ID: Hi Inge, Searching Github for 'commentary', it only comes up in .xwd files and in a .txt file so I suspect that it was implemented in the Flash engine but hasn't been implemented in the HTML5 Dialog page model yet. Probably Fay knows more or why it's not been done or not needed any more. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort [i.donkervoort at 12change.eu] Sent: 28 May 2016 22:40 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Dialog comment field Hi, In the interactivity page 'Dialog' I have a 'Commentary' field on the question page. This doesn't seem to do anything. Does someone know what it should do? Bye, Inge This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From i.donkervoort at 12change.eu Sun May 29 19:49:28 2016 From: i.donkervoort at 12change.eu (Inge Donkervoort 12Change) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:49:28 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Dialog comment field In-Reply-To: References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl> <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <026301d1b036$5789b460$069d1d20$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <573C6908.7050700@tor.nl>, <574A105E.2080402@12change.eu> Message-ID: <574B39B8.6010900@12change.eu> Hi John, Thanks! I suspect it is something like that. Fay can you take a look? Maybe we can make it depricated? Bye, Inge 12Changebv Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 M 06-50267104 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Smith, John schreef op 29-5-2016 0:23: > Hi Inge, > > Searching Github for 'commentary', it only comes up in .xwd files and in a .txt file so I suspect that it was implemented in the Flash engine but hasn't been implemented in the HTML5 Dialog page model yet. Probably Fay knows more or why it's not been done or not needed any more. > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, > Scotland, United Kingdom > > **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort [i.donkervoort at 12change.eu] > Sent: 28 May 2016 22:40 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Dialog comment field > > Hi, > > In the interactivity page 'Dialog' I have a 'Commentary' field on the question page. This doesn't seem to do anything. 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