From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 8 10:39:56 2016 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 09:39:56 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Dialog comment field In-Reply-To: <574B39B8.6010900@12change.eu> References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl> <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <026301d1b036$5789b460$069d1d20$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <573C6908.7050700@tor.nl>, <574A105E.2080402@12change.eu> <574B39B8.6010900@12change.eu> Message-ID: I've no idea what it should do - doesn't sound familiar at all. I'm confused as to why you can see it in the editor though (I can't), there is a commentary node in the dialog xwd but it's not referenced in the page or question nodes so shouldn't appear in editor... very odd. I'll deprecate it. Fay From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 29 May 2016 19:49 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Dialog comment field Hi John, Thanks! I suspect it is something like that. Fay can you take a look? Maybe we can make it depricated? Bye, Inge 1 2 Change bv Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 M 06-50267104 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Smith, John schreef op 29-5-2016 0:23: Hi Inge, Searching Github for 'commentary', it only comes up in .xwd files and in a .txt file so I suspect that it was implemented in the Flash engine but hasn't been implemented in the HTML5 Dialog page model yet. Probably Fay knows more or why it's not been done or not needed any more. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort [i.donkervoort at 12change.eu] Sent: 28 May 2016 22:40 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Dialog comment field Hi, In the interactivity page 'Dialog' I have a 'Commentary' field on the question page. This doesn't seem to do anything. Does someone know what it should do? Bye, Inge This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 8 10:47:14 2016 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:47:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Dialog comment field In-Reply-To: References: <5fe991e1-f9fa-1274-5236-5cef7f2cacaa@tor.nl> <4d6e6c844bccfc2137c9db41eb42eb06@pgogywebstuff.com> <023201d1b02b$972bafc0$c5830f40$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <026301d1b036$5789b460$069d1d20$@mitchellmedia.co.uk> <573C6908.7050700@tor.nl>, <574A105E.2080402@12change.eu> <574B39B8.6010900@12change.eu>, Message-ID: Yeah, I can't see it either but i'm mainly working from develop branch so not sure if it was available in v3 or v3.1 releases at some point... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross [Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 08 June 2016 10:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Dialog comment field I?ve no idea what it should do ? doesn?t sound familiar at all. I?m confused as to why you can see it in the editor though (I can?t), there is a commentary node in the dialog xwd but it?s not referenced in the page or question nodes so shouldn?t appear in editor? very odd. I?ll deprecate it. Fay From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 29 May 2016 19:49 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Dialog comment field Hi John, Thanks! I suspect it is something like that. Fay can you take a look? Maybe we can make it depricated? Bye, Inge 1 2 Change bv Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 M 06-50267104 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Smith, John schreef op 29-5-2016 0:23: Hi Inge, Searching Github for 'commentary', it only comes up in .xwd files and in a .txt file so I suspect that it was implemented in the Flash engine but hasn't been implemented in the HTML5 Dialog page model yet. Probably Fay knows more or why it's not been done or not needed any more. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom **** Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. **** ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort [i.donkervoort at 12change.eu] Sent: 28 May 2016 22:40 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Dialog comment field Hi, In the interactivity page 'Dialog' I have a 'Commentary' field on the question page. This doesn't seem to do anything. Does someone know what it should do? Bye, Inge This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 8 11:12:44 2016 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:12:44 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Showing wrong answers Message-ID: Hello In the past we've always avoided putting crosses next to wrong answers (correct are ticked but incorrect are left blank). This works well when there is at least one correct answer on a page but when they're all wrong it can look like the marking's broken - nothing changes. Do we want to stick with this approach? I've had a request for crosses to be added to sortable grid marking to make it clearer... what do you think? Or maybe other ways of doing it... 'you have 0 out of 6 correct' or 'correct answers are ticked' I guess we'd want it consistent across pages, we probably have a mixture of stuff happening at the moment Thanks Fay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 8 11:39:33 2016 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:39:33 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Showing wrong answers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The original principle was about reinforcing positive outcomes, but it is a problem when you don't appear to get any feedback when everything is wrong, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 08 June 2016 11:13 To: Xerte Dev Mailing List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Showing wrong answers Hello In the past we've always avoided putting crosses next to wrong answers (correct are ticked but incorrect are left blank). This works well when there is at least one correct answer on a page but when they're all wrong it can look like the marking's broken - nothing changes. Do we want to stick with this approach? I've had a request for crosses to be added to sortable grid marking to make it clearer... what do you think? Or maybe other ways of doing it... 'you have 0 out of 6 correct' or 'correct answers are ticked' I guess we'd want it consistent across pages, we probably have a mixture of stuff happening at the moment Thanks Fay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Jun 10 10:30:55 2016 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:30:55 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Showing wrong answers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's also not consistently applied everywhere. In the reworking and adding tracking to all the interactivities, we added crosses everywhere as well. Will demonstrate before committing. Op 8-6-2016 om 12:39 schreef Julian Tenney: > > The original principle was about reinforcing positive outcomes, but it > is a problem when you don?t appear to get any feedback when everything > is wrong, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Fay Cross > *Sent:* 08 June 2016 11:13 > *To:* Xerte Dev Mailing List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Showing wrong answers > > Hello > > In the past we?ve always avoided putting crosses next to wrong answers > (correct are ticked but incorrect are left blank). This works well > when there is at least one correct answer on a page but when they?re > all wrong it can look like the marking?s broken ? nothing changes. > > Do we want to stick with this approach? I?ve had a request for crosses > to be added to sortable grid marking to make it clearer? what do you > think? > > Or maybe other ways of doing it? ?you have 0 out of 6 correct? or > ?correct answers are ticked? > > I guess we?d want it consistent across pages, we probably have a > mixture of stuff happening at the moment > > Thanks > > Fay > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. 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