[Xerte-dev] Re: Tooltips / Alt text (title vs. alt attributes)

Ron Mitchell ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
Fri Mar 20 09:36:28 GMT 2015


Tooltips can be very useful for ALL users by displaying additional context,
explanation, instruction etc.

I would think having a single option for tooltips like we have now but
perhaps in the code using whatever is entered as both a title and alt tag
might be a useful compromise? Although I guess that means a change to all
models? Also I'm not sure if that's accepted practice or not.

 

The other aspect of this is that I think once the new version is offcially
released users are going to quickly switch to adding images via the wysiswg
editor and for instance the plain text page rather than a graphics and sound
page etc. I know the editor has an option for Alt text and it seems like
that's used as Alt text and not title text as it doesn't show on hover. 

 

Ron

 

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Tooltips / Alt text (title vs. alt attributes)

 

I did that, and indeed in response to issue #104.

Please Alistair, any comments on what Fay mentions? It does make sense to
me. And I don't like tool tips anyway.

I must say, a lot of people were complaining that they didn't work. That's
another reason I made the change. 

Fay Cross schreef op 20-3-2015 om 9:51:

I've noticed that a change has been made to lots of page types so that alt
attributes on images are now title attributes. This seems to be in response
to a bug on GitHub
(https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/104) where
tooltips were said to not work.

 

I'm not sure that changing all alt to title really solves the problem and
really it's a wording problem on the editor rather than a problem to be
fixed in the LOs. I thought that the main use of tooltip fields in the
editor was to add a description of the image to screen readers. Previously
these descriptions added as alt attributes did mean that a tooltip appeared
when the image was hovered over but this no longer seems to happen in most
browsers. Using the title attribute instead does force a tooltip to appear
but I don't think it's ideal for screen readers
(http://www.w3.org/TR/html/dom.html#the-title-attribute)

 

What does everyone think about this? Should the wording in the editor be
changed from 'Tooltip' to 'Description' or 'Alt text' or do you think that
it's more important for it to stay as tooltip and keep the hover
functionality even if this might be more fiddly for users of screen readers?

 

Fay

 
 
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