From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 3 10:57:44 2015 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:57:44 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons In-Reply-To: <6B716E1B-4BDB-46A9-A223-6601564A3496@akamai.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5184A852@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6B716E1B-4BDB-46A9-A223-6601564A3496@akamai.com> Message-ID: I like this timings idea and it really shouldn't take long to add in. Like you say, from what I can remember when I wrote the page template it completely disregards the order in the editor and just sorts the content from all panels by their synch point. If I get a chance I might be able to look at it sometime. Fay -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley Sent: 27 May 2015 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I almost definitely won't have time to do much until after the conference has started, though maybe if anyone is interested in working on it with me at the Hackathon? Thanks for the offer of help, John, if we end up planning something I'll be sure to include you in case you can take part remotely. -Brad > On May 27, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Smith, John wrote: > > If you want to fork a copy of xot and start building it Brad and send me a reminder then i'll be happy to help... unfortunately I wont be in Baltimore though!! > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 27 May 2015 15:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons > > That's a good idea: you're right, the timings are just timings, so adding an intro will put everything out. It doesn't sound very difficult to implement, do you fancy having a go at it? > > See you in Baltimore! > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > Bradley > Sent: 27 May 2015 15:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] An idea about timings in media lessons > > (...and several other things, I guess.) > > I've been playing around with the Media Lesson component and my head is abuzz with ideas I'm looking forward to trying. One thing has occurred to me, though: it looks like every event that you want to play during the video takes a fixed synch point, and thus the order in which the events appear in the editor has no bearing on when they actually show up. > > Consider: Suppose I make a change to a video that adds a 15 second clip starting 150 seconds in. Based on my limited experimentation so far, all of my events with synch points >= 150 are now off by 15 seconds, right? > > What if we supported synch points specified in either of two formats: "X", meaning "X seconds into the video", or "+X", meaning "X seconds after the previous synch point"? This way if all of my synch points use the latter format I only need up update the one immediately after new clip in my video. > > Thoughts? > > -Brad > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 10 15:26:05 2015 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:26:05 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5184A852@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6B716E1B-4BDB-46A9-A223-6601564A3496@akamai.com> Message-ID: I've just committed some code that allows this relative synching in the media lesson page by using e.g. "+10" in the synch point fields. - Start synch points are relative to the previous sibling's start point - End synch points (normally added with an optional property) are relative to that content's own start point Where there is nested content (e.g. slideshows & subtitles) the 1st child looks at the synch point of its parent while all subsequent children use their previous sibling. Any content after the nested content will be relative to the start point of the nested parent rather than any of its children. The synch points for each panel are calculated separately so content can only be relative to content on the same panel. You can also use relative synch points for jump points (e.g. when answering a MCQ). I'll look at adding something similar to the other media pages too (synched video, transcript reader & audio slideshow) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 03 June 2015 10:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I like this timings idea and it really shouldn't take long to add in. Like you say, from what I can remember when I wrote the page template it completely disregards the order in the editor and just sorts the content from all panels by their synch point. If I get a chance I might be able to look at it sometime. Fay -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley Sent: 27 May 2015 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I almost definitely won't have time to do much until after the conference has started, though maybe if anyone is interested in working on it with me at the Hackathon? Thanks for the offer of help, John, if we end up planning something I'll be sure to include you in case you can take part remotely. -Brad > On May 27, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Smith, John wrote: > > If you want to fork a copy of xot and start building it Brad and send me a reminder then i'll be happy to help... unfortunately I wont be in Baltimore though!! > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 27 May 2015 15:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons > > That's a good idea: you're right, the timings are just timings, so adding an intro will put everything out. It doesn't sound very difficult to implement, do you fancy having a go at it? > > See you in Baltimore! > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > Bradley > Sent: 27 May 2015 15:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] An idea about timings in media lessons > > (...and several other things, I guess.) > > I've been playing around with the Media Lesson component and my head is abuzz with ideas I'm looking forward to trying. One thing has occurred to me, though: it looks like every event that you want to play during the video takes a fixed synch point, and thus the order in which the events appear in the editor has no bearing on when they actually show up. > > Consider: Suppose I make a change to a video that adds a 15 second clip starting 150 seconds in. Based on my limited experimentation so far, all of my events with synch points >= 150 are now off by 15 seconds, right? > > What if we supported synch points specified in either of two formats: "X", meaning "X seconds into the video", or "+X", meaning "X seconds after the previous synch point"? This way if all of my synch points use the latter format I only need up update the one immediately after new clip in my video. > > Thoughts? > > -Brad > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Jun 10 15:40:04 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:40:04 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5184A852@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6B716E1B-4BDB-46A9-A223-6601564A3496@akamai.com> Message-ID: <005a01d0a38b$870640e0$9512c2a0$@co.uk> Thanks Fay that's great! Did you also see the discussion on the community forum about using YouTube clips in the media lesson page? Inge had that working with YouTube but now can't and neither can I but we Vimeo does work and also YouTube does seem to work fine with the synched video page. YouTube seem to have at least 3 different format links so not sure if that's the reason or if something changed? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 10 June 2015 15:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I've just committed some code that allows this relative synching in the media lesson page by using e.g. "+10" in the synch point fields. - Start synch points are relative to the previous sibling's start point - End synch points (normally added with an optional property) are relative to that content's own start point Where there is nested content (e.g. slideshows & subtitles) the 1st child looks at the synch point of its parent while all subsequent children use their previous sibling. Any content after the nested content will be relative to the start point of the nested parent rather than any of its children. The synch points for each panel are calculated separately so content can only be relative to content on the same panel. You can also use relative synch points for jump points (e.g. when answering a MCQ). I'll look at adding something similar to the other media pages too (synched video, transcript reader & audio slideshow) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 03 June 2015 10:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I like this timings idea and it really shouldn't take long to add in. Like you say, from what I can remember when I wrote the page template it completely disregards the order in the editor and just sorts the content from all panels by their synch point. If I get a chance I might be able to look at it sometime. Fay -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley Sent: 27 May 2015 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I almost definitely won't have time to do much until after the conference has started, though maybe if anyone is interested in working on it with me at the Hackathon? Thanks for the offer of help, John, if we end up planning something I'll be sure to include you in case you can take part remotely. -Brad > On May 27, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Smith, John wrote: > > If you want to fork a copy of xot and start building it Brad and send me a reminder then i'll be happy to help... unfortunately I wont be in Baltimore though!! > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 27 May 2015 15:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons > > That's a good idea: you're right, the timings are just timings, so adding an intro will put everything out. It doesn't sound very difficult to implement, do you fancy having a go at it? > > See you in Baltimore! > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > Bradley > Sent: 27 May 2015 15:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] An idea about timings in media lessons > > (...and several other things, I guess.) > > I've been playing around with the Media Lesson component and my head is abuzz with ideas I'm looking forward to trying. One thing has occurred to me, though: it looks like every event that you want to play during the video takes a fixed synch point, and thus the order in which the events appear in the editor has no bearing on when they actually show up. > > Consider: Suppose I make a change to a video that adds a 15 second clip starting 150 seconds in. Based on my limited experimentation so far, all of my events with synch points >= 150 are now off by 15 seconds, right? > > What if we supported synch points specified in either of two formats: "X", meaning "X seconds into the video", or "+X", meaning "X seconds after the previous synch point"? This way if all of my synch points use the latter format I only need up update the one immediately after new clip in my video. > > Thoughts? > > -Brad > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. 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Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 10 15:41:15 2015 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:41:15 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons In-Reply-To: <005a01d0a38b$870640e0$9512c2a0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5184A852@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6B716E1B-4BDB-46A9-A223-6601564A3496@akamai.com> <005a01d0a38b$870640e0$9512c2a0$@co.uk> Message-ID: I hadn't seen that but I'll have a look. It was working in YouTube not long ago -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 June 2015 15:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons Thanks Fay that's great! Did you also see the discussion on the community forum about using YouTube clips in the media lesson page? Inge had that working with YouTube but now can't and neither can I but we Vimeo does work and also YouTube does seem to work fine with the synched video page. YouTube seem to have at least 3 different format links so not sure if that's the reason or if something changed? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 10 June 2015 15:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I've just committed some code that allows this relative synching in the media lesson page by using e.g. "+10" in the synch point fields. - Start synch points are relative to the previous sibling's start point - End synch points (normally added with an optional property) are relative to that content's own start point Where there is nested content (e.g. slideshows & subtitles) the 1st child looks at the synch point of its parent while all subsequent children use their previous sibling. Any content after the nested content will be relative to the start point of the nested parent rather than any of its children. The synch points for each panel are calculated separately so content can only be relative to content on the same panel. You can also use relative synch points for jump points (e.g. when answering a MCQ). I'll look at adding something similar to the other media pages too (synched video, transcript reader & audio slideshow) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 03 June 2015 10:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I like this timings idea and it really shouldn't take long to add in. Like you say, from what I can remember when I wrote the page template it completely disregards the order in the editor and just sorts the content from all panels by their synch point. If I get a chance I might be able to look at it sometime. Fay -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley Sent: 27 May 2015 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I almost definitely won't have time to do much until after the conference has started, though maybe if anyone is interested in working on it with me at the Hackathon? Thanks for the offer of help, John, if we end up planning something I'll be sure to include you in case you can take part remotely. -Brad > On May 27, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Smith, John wrote: > > If you want to fork a copy of xot and start building it Brad and send > me a reminder then i'll be happy to help... unfortunately I wont be in Baltimore though!! > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 27 May 2015 15:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons > > That's a good idea: you're right, the timings are just timings, so > adding an intro will put everything out. It doesn't sound very difficult to implement, do you fancy having a go at it? > > See you in Baltimore! > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > Bradley > Sent: 27 May 2015 15:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] An idea about timings in media lessons > > (...and several other things, I guess.) > > I've been playing around with the Media Lesson component and my head > is abuzz with ideas I'm looking forward to trying. One thing has occurred to me, though: it looks like every event that you want to play during the video takes a fixed synch point, and thus the order in which the events appear in the editor has no bearing on when they actually show up. > > Consider: Suppose I make a change to a video that adds a 15 second > clip starting 150 seconds in. Based on my limited experimentation so far, all of my events with synch points >= 150 are now off by 15 seconds, right? > > What if we supported synch points specified in either of two formats: > "X", meaning "X seconds into the video", or "+X", meaning "X seconds after the previous synch point"? This way if all of my synch points use the latter format I only need up update the one immediately after new clip in my video. > > Thoughts? > > -Brad > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jun 11 08:25:42 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 07:25:42 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5184A852@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6B716E1B-4BDB-46A9-A223-6601564A3496@akamai.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E51DEAE75@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Great, nice one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 10 June 2015 15:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I've just committed some code that allows this relative synching in the media lesson page by using e.g. "+10" in the synch point fields. - Start synch points are relative to the previous sibling's start point - End synch points (normally added with an optional property) are relative to that content's own start point Where there is nested content (e.g. slideshows & subtitles) the 1st child looks at the synch point of its parent while all subsequent children use their previous sibling. Any content after the nested content will be relative to the start point of the nested parent rather than any of its children. The synch points for each panel are calculated separately so content can only be relative to content on the same panel. You can also use relative synch points for jump points (e.g. when answering a MCQ). I'll look at adding something similar to the other media pages too (synched video, transcript reader & audio slideshow) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 03 June 2015 10:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I like this timings idea and it really shouldn't take long to add in. Like you say, from what I can remember when I wrote the page template it completely disregards the order in the editor and just sorts the content from all panels by their synch point. If I get a chance I might be able to look at it sometime. Fay -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley Sent: 27 May 2015 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons I almost definitely won't have time to do much until after the conference has started, though maybe if anyone is interested in working on it with me at the Hackathon? Thanks for the offer of help, John, if we end up planning something I'll be sure to include you in case you can take part remotely. -Brad > On May 27, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Smith, John wrote: > > If you want to fork a copy of xot and start building it Brad and send me a reminder then i'll be happy to help... unfortunately I wont be in Baltimore though!! > > John Smith > Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences > > T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian > University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 27 May 2015 15:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons > > That's a good idea: you're right, the timings are just timings, so adding an intro will put everything out. It doesn't sound very difficult to implement, do you fancy having a go at it? > > See you in Baltimore! > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > Bradley > Sent: 27 May 2015 15:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] An idea about timings in media lessons > > (...and several other things, I guess.) > > I've been playing around with the Media Lesson component and my head is abuzz with ideas I'm looking forward to trying. One thing has occurred to me, though: it looks like every event that you want to play during the video takes a fixed synch point, and thus the order in which the events appear in the editor has no bearing on when they actually show up. > > Consider: Suppose I make a change to a video that adds a 15 second clip starting 150 seconds in. Based on my limited experimentation so far, all of my events with synch points >= 150 are now off by 15 seconds, right? > > What if we supported synch points specified in either of two formats: "X", meaning "X seconds into the video", or "+X", meaning "X seconds after the previous synch point"? This way if all of my synch points use the latter format I only need up update the one immediately after new clip in my video. > > Thoughts? > > -Brad > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. 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If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jun 11 15:47:25 2015 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:47:25 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Translating xwd question Message-ID: Probably a question for Tom... If I want to use a string in a page model I would normally add it to the xwd so that it can be edited by the project author & allows for the default value to be translated in the translation tool. But if the string's something that the author is never going to need to change (e.g. an error message prompting them that they've not entered all the required info in the editor) I'd ideally not have it appear in the editor when language options is checked. I can do this by just setting a default value for it in the newNodes section and not including the node describing how it appears in the editor - but will this string be picked up by your translation tool? Thanks From brsmith at akamai.com Thu Jun 11 16:51:29 2015 From: brsmith at akamai.com (Smith, Bradley) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:51:29 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5184A852@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6B716E1B-4BDB-46A9-A223-6601564A3496@akamai.com> Message-ID: Thanks for doing this! (and so much for my plan of ?I?ll just run the non-development version for a while??) ;) ?Brad > On Jun 10, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > > I've just committed some code that allows this relative synching in the media lesson page by using e.g. "+10" in the synch point fields. > > - Start synch points are relative to the previous sibling's start point > - End synch points (normally added with an optional property) are relative to that content's own start point > > Where there is nested content (e.g. slideshows & subtitles) the 1st child looks at the synch point of its parent while all subsequent children use their previous sibling. Any content after the nested content will be relative to the start point of the nested parent rather than any of its children. > > The synch points for each panel are calculated separately so content can only be relative to content on the same panel. > > You can also use relative synch points for jump points (e.g. when answering a MCQ). > > I'll look at adding something similar to the other media pages too (synched video, transcript reader & audio slideshow) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross > Sent: 03 June 2015 10:58 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons > > I like this timings idea and it really shouldn't take long to add in. Like you say, from what I can remember when I wrote the page template it completely disregards the order in the editor and just sorts the content from all panels by their synch point. If I get a chance I might be able to look at it sometime. > > Fay > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley > Sent: 27 May 2015 19:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons > > I almost definitely won't have time to do much until after the conference has started, though maybe if anyone is interested in working on it with me at the Hackathon? Thanks for the offer of help, John, if we end up planning something I'll be sure to include you in case you can take part remotely. > > -Brad > > >> On May 27, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Smith, John wrote: >> >> If you want to fork a copy of xot and start building it Brad and send me a reminder then i'll be happy to help... unfortunately I wont be in Baltimore though!! >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences >> >> T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian >> University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >> Sent: 27 May 2015 15:33 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: An idea about timings in media lessons >> >> That's a good idea: you're right, the timings are just timings, so adding an intro will put everything out. It doesn't sound very difficult to implement, do you fancy having a go at it? >> >> See you in Baltimore! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> Bradley >> Sent: 27 May 2015 15:27 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] An idea about timings in media lessons >> >> (...and several other things, I guess.) >> >> I've been playing around with the Media Lesson component and my head is abuzz with ideas I'm looking forward to trying. One thing has occurred to me, though: it looks like every event that you want to play during the video takes a fixed synch point, and thus the order in which the events appear in the editor has no bearing on when they actually show up. >> >> Consider: Suppose I make a change to a video that adds a 15 second clip starting 150 seconds in. Based on my limited experimentation so far, all of my events with synch points >= 150 are now off by 15 seconds, right? >> >> What if we supported synch points specified in either of two formats: "X", meaning "X seconds into the video", or "+X", meaning "X seconds after the previous synch point"? This way if all of my synch points use the latter format I only need up update the one immediately after new clip in my video. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -Brad >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >> >> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >> message or in any attachment. 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Fay Cross schreef op 11-6-2015 om 16:46: > Probably a question for Tom... > > If I want to use a string in a page model I would normally add it to the xwd so that it can be edited by the project author & allows for the default value to be translated in the translation tool. > > But if the string's something that the author is never going to need to change (e.g. an error message prompting them that they've not entered all the required info in the editor) I'd ideally not have it appear in the editor when language options is checked. I can do this by just setting a default value for it in the newNodes section and not including the node describing how it appears in the editor - but will this string be picked up by your translation tool? > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. 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Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 12 07:54:16 2015 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 06:54:16 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Translating xwd question In-Reply-To: <5579D4E1.5070709@tor.nl> References: <5579D4E1.5070709@tor.nl> Message-ID: Great, thanks -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 June 2015 19:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Translating xwd question Yes, I think so, because all the other defaults end up in the tool as well. Fay Cross schreef op 11-6-2015 om 16:46: > Probably a question for Tom... > > If I want to use a string in a page model I would normally add it to the xwd so that it can be edited by the project author & allows for the default value to be translated in the translation tool. > > But if the string's something that the author is never going to need to change (e.g. an error message prompting them that they've not entered all the required info in the editor) I'd ideally not have it appear in the editor when language options is checked. I can do this by just setting a default value for it in the newNodes section and not including the node describing how it appears in the editor - but will this string be picked up by your translation tool? > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. 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Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 12 14:17:32 2015 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:17:32 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Navigator Pages Message-ID: I've got to make some changes to a lot of the navigator pages to fix some problems that Inge found and it's got me thinking about something I think Ron has mentioned before. Button, tabbed, slideshow and accordion navigators are all identical in the information that the author enters - the only difference is the way you move between sub-pages in the LO. Would it be useful to replace these pages with one new navigator page where you could select which of these appearances you wanted it to have? Or do you think this would be confusing? It would be easy to do (and then I'd only have to do the changes to fix the bugs once!) What do you think? Fay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Jun 12 14:47:47 2015 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:47:47 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <557AE2F0.6050404@tor.nl> The problem is, that we need to deprecate the old pages. That's no problem in it self. But that would mean that we probably should fix the problems anyway. I would do it anyway, because it will simplify future maintenance. Tom Fay Cross schreef op 12-6-2015 om 15:17: > > I?ve got to make some changes to a lot of the navigator pages to fix > some problems that Inge found and it?s got me thinking about something > I think Ron has mentioned before. > > Button, tabbed, slideshow and accordion navigators are all identical > in the information that the author enters ? the only difference is the > way you move between sub-pages in the LO. Would it be useful to > replace these pages with one new navigator page where you could select > which of these appearances you wanted it to have? Or do you think this > would be confusing? > > It would be easy to do (and then I?d only have to do the changes to > fix the bugs once!) What do you think? > > Fay > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Jun 12 15:04:55 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:04:55 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages In-Reply-To: <557AE2F0.6050404@tor.nl> References: , <557AE2F0.6050404@tor.nl> Message-ID: Yes, I've often thought that also Fay but agree somewhat with what Tom says about deprecating etc... I've often thought though that could we/should we just be able to force users to switch, not in a controlling way but in a 'helpful' way... So for example we have a 'text' page which we are going to deprecate... we have a new 'text2' page which has the text functionality but like the new 'navigator' combines several related pages... should we just write out changes to any old page as the new format as soon as it is edited? Just now we don't do that but it wouldn't be crazily hard to do? The thing just now is that we are deprecating things but really we're saying that you just shouldn't use it and that we aren't going to support any more... we aren't forcing them to stop using it if they don't want to and we now have pages that while deprecated are still editable if they exist and they may actually not play nice in the future with updates to xenith for example... John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 12 June 2015 14:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages The problem is, that we need to deprecate the old pages. That's no problem in it self. But that would mean that we probably should fix the problems anyway. I would do it anyway, because it will simplify future maintenance. Tom Fay Cross schreef op 12-6-2015 om 15:17: I?ve got to make some changes to a lot of the navigator pages to fix some problems that Inge found and it?s got me thinking about something I think Ron has mentioned before. Button, tabbed, slideshow and accordion navigators are all identical in the information that the author enters ? the only difference is the way you move between sub-pages in the LO. Would it be useful to replace these pages with one new navigator page where you could select which of these appearances you wanted it to have? Or do you think this would be confusing? It would be easy to do (and then I?d only have to do the changes to fix the bugs once!) What do you think? Fay This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Jun 12 15:08:30 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:08:30 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages In-Reply-To: <557AE2F0.6050404@tor.nl> References: <557AE2F0.6050404@tor.nl> Message-ID: <00cc01d0a519$72419350$56c4b9f0$@co.uk> I can see the benefits of this and we have a similar feature in the site template where most of the navigators are combined. But I can imagine it will be difficult to ensure backwards compatibility apart from deprecation for new projects. In this case that would seem like a bit of a departure e.g. the other deprecated page are no longer needed or supported whereas the navigators are very much still useful and an important feature. Also would the tabbed navigator plus be a separate case and still left on it's own? I'd suggest the following: Fix the essential issues in the current navigators but perhaps not those not essential if not easy. Add a new combined navigator when time permits and we can test in a develop version first and then until people are familiar with that leave the existing navigators without deprecating them. At some future point deprecate the older separate navigators. HTH Ron BTW Would be good to add a carousel navigator to the mix at some point like we have in the site template. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 12 June 2015 14:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages The problem is, that we need to deprecate the old pages. That's no problem in it self. But that would mean that we probably should fix the problems anyway. I would do it anyway, because it will simplify future maintenance. Tom Fay Cross schreef op 12-6-2015 om 15:17: I've got to make some changes to a lot of the navigator pages to fix some problems that Inge found and it's got me thinking about something I think Ron has mentioned before. Button, tabbed, slideshow and accordion navigators are all identical in the information that the author enters - the only difference is the way you move between sub-pages in the LO. Would it be useful to replace these pages with one new navigator page where you could select which of these appearances you wanted it to have? Or do you think this would be confusing? It would be easy to do (and then I'd only have to do the changes to fix the bugs once!) What do you think? Fay This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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You can upload a flv (but not mp4) to the Image optional property and it will play. I have no idea why I've made it is like this or how I haven't noticed before! I'm tempted to just deprecate the video w/h property on all the navigators for now as unless people have realised you have to upload videos to the image field then it's not widely used and it won't stop any existing projects working anyway. I'll look at making a new combined navigator page too (that properly allows videos on subpages) but won't deprecate the old ones until we're happy with it. Yes, the tabbed navigator + would need to stay separate. The column page could possibly be combined with them too as it uses the same nested pages but I think this feels different somehow and is useful to keep separate. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 June 2015 15:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages I can see the benefits of this and we have a similar feature in the site template where most of the navigators are combined. But I can imagine it will be difficult to ensure backwards compatibility apart from deprecation for new projects. In this case that would seem like a bit of a departure e.g. the other deprecated page are no longer needed or supported whereas the navigators are very much still useful and an important feature. Also would the tabbed navigator plus be a separate case and still left on it's own? I'd suggest the following: Fix the essential issues in the current navigators but perhaps not those not essential if not easy. Add a new combined navigator when time permits and we can test in a develop version first and then until people are familiar with that leave the existing navigators without deprecating them. At some future point deprecate the older separate navigators. HTH Ron BTW Would be good to add a carousel navigator to the mix at some point like we have in the site template. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 12 June 2015 14:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages The problem is, that we need to deprecate the old pages. That's no problem in it self. But that would mean that we probably should fix the problems anyway. I would do it anyway, because it will simplify future maintenance. Tom Fay Cross schreef op 12-6-2015 om 15:17: I've got to make some changes to a lot of the navigator pages to fix some problems that Inge found and it's got me thinking about something I think Ron has mentioned before. Button, tabbed, slideshow and accordion navigators are all identical in the information that the author enters - the only difference is the way you move between sub-pages in the LO. Would it be useful to replace these pages with one new navigator page where you could select which of these appearances you wanted it to have? Or do you think this would be confusing? It would be easy to do (and then I'd only have to do the changes to fix the bugs once!) What do you think? Fay This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 12 15:40:07 2015 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:40:07 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages In-Reply-To: References: , <557AE2F0.6050404@tor.nl> Message-ID: I agree this is a problem with deprecating them. I'm can't remember what the pages are that have been deprecated in the past but I suspect that they're ones that haven't been widely used. The navigator pages are used a lot and we really wouldn't want them to fail in the future if we make a new navigator page, deprecate the old ones and then make a change elsewhere that stops them working that we don't pick up on because they're deprecated. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2015 15:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages Yes, I've often thought that also Fay but agree somewhat with what Tom says about deprecating etc... I've often thought though that could we/should we just be able to force users to switch, not in a controlling way but in a 'helpful' way... So for example we have a 'text' page which we are going to deprecate... we have a new 'text2' page which has the text functionality but like the new 'navigator' combines several related pages... should we just write out changes to any old page as the new format as soon as it is edited? Just now we don't do that but it wouldn't be crazily hard to do? The thing just now is that we are deprecating things but really we're saying that you just shouldn't use it and that we aren't going to support any more... we aren't forcing them to stop using it if they don't want to and we now have pages that while deprecated are still editable if they exist and they may actually not play nice in the future with updates to xenith for example... John Smith Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 12 June 2015 14:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages The problem is, that we need to deprecate the old pages. That's no problem in it self. But that would mean that we probably should fix the problems anyway. I would do it anyway, because it will simplify future maintenance. Tom Fay Cross schreef op 12-6-2015 om 15:17: I've got to make some changes to a lot of the navigator pages to fix some problems that Inge found and it's got me thinking about something I think Ron has mentioned before. Button, tabbed, slideshow and accordion navigators are all identical in the information that the author enters - the only difference is the way you move between sub-pages in the LO. Would it be useful to replace these pages with one new navigator page where you could select which of these appearances you wanted it to have? Or do you think this would be confusing? It would be easy to do (and then I'd only have to do the changes to fix the bugs once!) What do you think? Fay This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From brsmith at akamai.com Fri Jun 12 18:59:45 2015 From: brsmith at akamai.com (Smith, Bradley) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:59:45 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Personally I love this idea as long as we're confident that these page types will always require the same inputs. If so, it would be fantastic to be able to write my content once and then freely experiment with how it's presented. --Brad Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: I've got to make some changes to a lot of the navigator pages to fix some problems that Inge found and it's got me thinking about something I think Ron has mentioned before. Button, tabbed, slideshow and accordion navigators are all identical in the information that the author enters - the only difference is the way you move between sub-pages in the LO. Would it be useful to replace these pages with one new navigator page where you could select which of these appearances you wanted it to have? Or do you think this would be confusing? It would be easy to do (and then I'd only have to do the changes to fix the bugs once!) What do you think? Fay This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 15 09:54:35 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:54:35 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E512D164A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think its a good idea too, ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley [brsmith at akamai.com] Sent: 12 June 2015 18:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages Personally I love this idea as long as we're confident that these page types will always require the same inputs. If so, it would be fantastic to be able to write my content once and then freely experiment with how it's presented. --Brad Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: I?ve got to make some changes to a lot of the navigator pages to fix some problems that Inge found and it?s got me thinking about something I think Ron has mentioned before. Button, tabbed, slideshow and accordion navigators are all identical in the information that the author enters ? the only difference is the way you move between sub-pages in the LO. Would it be useful to replace these pages with one new navigator page where you could select which of these appearances you wanted it to have? Or do you think this would be confusing? It would be easy to do (and then I?d only have to do the changes to fix the bugs once!) What do you think? Fay This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 15 10:21:57 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:21:57 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages In-Reply-To: <00cc01d0a519$72419350$56c4b9f0$@co.uk> References: <557AE2F0.6050404@tor.nl>,<00cc01d0a519$72419350$56c4b9f0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E512D164E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think Ron's plan is sensible. I can see issues with deprecating them. A generic 'navigator' page would help gete around them, but we don' have to worry about it now, ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 June 2015 15:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages I can see the benefits of this and we have a similar feature in the site template where most of the navigators are combined. But I can imagine it will be difficult to ensure backwards compatibility apart from deprecation for new projects. In this case that would seem like a bit of a departure e.g. the other deprecated page are no longer needed or supported whereas the navigators are very much still useful and an important feature. Also would the tabbed navigator plus be a separate case and still left on it's own? I'd suggest the following: Fix the essential issues in the current navigators but perhaps not those not essential if not easy. Add a new combined navigator when time permits and we can test in a develop version first and then until people are familiar with that leave the existing navigators without deprecating them. At some future point deprecate the older separate navigators. HTH Ron BTW Would be good to add a carousel navigator to the mix at some point like we have in the site template. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 12 June 2015 14:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Navigator Pages The problem is, that we need to deprecate the old pages. That's no problem in it self. But that would mean that we probably should fix the problems anyway. I would do it anyway, because it will simplify future maintenance. Tom Fay Cross schreef op 12-6-2015 om 15:17: I?ve got to make some changes to a lot of the navigator pages to fix some problems that Inge found and it?s got me thinking about something I think Ron has mentioned before. Button, tabbed, slideshow and accordion navigators are all identical in the information that the author enters ? the only difference is the way you move between sub-pages in the LO. Would it be useful to replace these pages with one new navigator page where you could select which of these appearances you wanted it to have? Or do you think this would be confusing? It would be easy to do (and then I?d only have to do the changes to fix the bugs once!) What do you think? Fay This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Jun 18 17:27:20 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:27:20 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] setiing panel defaults Message-ID: <00e201d0a9df$5ecb7e60$1c627b20$@co.uk> Hi all I think we've sort of discussed this before but I'm supporting a project and installation where there's a need to change the default workspace panels e.g. when first opened the south panel is collapsed or hidden and even the east panel is collapsed or hidden. What's the best way to achieve that? By changing settings in \website_code\scripts\jquery.layout-latest.js? What's the best way to do this e.g. for a customised install? Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John Sent from Samsung tablet Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. -------- Original message -------- From: Ron Mitchell Date: 18/06/2015 17:27 (GMT+00:00) To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] setiing panel defaults Hi all I think we've sort of discussed this before but I'm supporting a project and installation where there's a need to change the default workspace panels e.g. when first opened the south panel is collapsed or hidden and even the east panel is collapsed or hidden. What's the best way to achieve that? By changing settings in \website_code\scripts\jquery.layout-latest.js? What's the best way to do this e.g. for a customised install? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Jun 18 18:51:30 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 17:51:30 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: setiing panel defaults In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <011b01d0a9ef$8c9de3e0$a5d9aba0$@co.uk> Hi John that's great cheers - works great! Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 June 2015 18:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: setiing panel defaults Hi Ron Try changing line 488 of screen_display.js ( https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/f3d829ef04e38433 f1ba92f301c5faf2d5291762/website_code/scripts/screen_display.js#L488 ), initClosed to true Similarly you should also be able to find that option (or add it) for any other panels you wish to change. John Sent from Samsung tablet Please send all enquiries to our shared Blended Learning inbox at hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk and one of the Learning Technologists will respond. -------- Original message -------- From: Ron Mitchell Date: 18/06/2015 17:27 (GMT+00:00) To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] setiing panel defaults Hi all I think we've sort of discussed this before but I'm supporting a project and installation where there's a need to change the default workspace panels e.g. when first opened the south panel is collapsed or hidden and even the east panel is collapsed or hidden. What's the best way to achieve that? By changing settings in \website_code\scripts\jquery.layout-latest.js? What's the best way to do this e.g. for a customised install? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From: projects at apereo.org [mailto:projects at apereo.org] On Behalf Of Neal Caidin Sent: 12 June 2015 13:42 To: sakai-user; projects at apereo.org; portfolio at apereo.org Subject: [apereo-projects] Sakai/Apereo Teaching and Learning Call [to sakai-users, portfolio, projects (Apereo list)] Hello Community, New Apereo Teaching and Learning list being created * A new Teaching and Learning Apereo Google Group will be created shortly (probably next week). * Subscription will be voluntary, not automatic. You must subscribe yourself. Details will be provided. * After this is created, for a time at least, we will send Teaching and Learning announcements like this one to sakai-users, portfolio, and ApereoTL (the name of the new group). * We will be keeping the Sakai Users list because it is an active list with a lot of Sakai chatter (which is a good thing) and other projects would not be interested in 80% of the discussions. * Apereo Project Leads - please share with your communities? Thanks. Details of next Teaching and Learning Call The Teaching and Learning group invites you to join us for our next meeting today, June 17, at 10 AM ET / 2 pm GMT. We'll be covering the following agenda: 1. Welcome and meeting launch (2 min) - Trisha 2. Project updates and announcements - Project team reps (@5 min) 3. Jira of the Week (JOW) - 5 minutes 4. Development of EvalsSys - Adam Marshall (Oxford) 5. Piazza 3rd party LTI - Laura Gekeler 6. Discuss and schedule future meeting themes/topics - All (10 min) 7. Wrap up and adjourn Meeting logistics: 1. Join Big Blue Button session: http://apereo.blindsidenetworks.net/apereo/ 2. Choose Room 2 from the pop-down 3. Enter password: apereo 4. Enable and test microphone for audio 5. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jun 22 09:59:23 2015 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:59:23 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Responsive hotspot pages Message-ID: <5587CE6B.20201@tor.nl> Hi, In develop, I've committed a few changes to the hotspotImage and the connectorHotspotImage to make them more responsive. Can someone take a look, so we can decide whther we want to implement this in 3.0-beta as well? Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 23 07:50:49 2015 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 06:50:49 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Responsive hotspot pages In-Reply-To: <5587CE6B.20201@tor.nl> References: <5587CE6B.20201@tor.nl> Message-ID: <558901D1.7090402@tor.nl> Hi, I added this to 3.0-beta as well. Tom Tom Reijnders schreef op 22-6-2015 om 10:59: > Hi, > > In develop, I've committed a few changes to the hotspotImage and the > connectorHotspotImage to make them more responsive. Can someone take a > look, so we can decide whther we want to implement this in 3.0-beta as > well? > > Tom > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jun 25 15:59:35 2015 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:59:35 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Responsive hotspot pages In-Reply-To: <558901D1.7090402@tor.nl> References: <5587CE6B.20201@tor.nl> <558901D1.7090402@tor.nl> Message-ID: Hi Tom It looks like it works well. I've just committed a few changes so it doesn't run through all the init code every time the size changes and I've changed the css a bit so the text flows around the panel rather than staying to one side. Fay -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 June 2015 07:51 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Responsive hotspot pages Hi, I added this to 3.0-beta as well. Tom Tom Reijnders schreef op 22-6-2015 om 10:59: > Hi, > > In develop, I've committed a few changes to the hotspotImage and the > connectorHotspotImage to make them more responsive. Can someone take a > look, so we can decide whther we want to implement this in 3.0-beta as > well? > > Tom > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jun 25 16:00:46 2015 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:00:46 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Responsive hotspot pages In-Reply-To: References: <5587CE6B.20201@tor.nl> <558901D1.7090402@tor.nl> Message-ID: I meant to say that I've only done it for the hotspotImage page at the moment but I will do the same to the connector one too -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 25 June 2015 16:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Responsive hotspot pages Hi Tom It looks like it works well. I've just committed a few changes so it doesn't run through all the init code every time the size changes and I've changed the css a bit so the text flows around the panel rather than staying to one side. Fay -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 June 2015 07:51 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Responsive hotspot pages Hi, I added this to 3.0-beta as well. Tom Tom Reijnders schreef op 22-6-2015 om 10:59: > Hi, > > In develop, I've committed a few changes to the hotspotImage and the > connectorHotspotImage to make them more responsive. Can someone take a > look, so we can decide whther we want to implement this in 3.0-beta as > well? > > Tom > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Jun 25 19:57:54 2015 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:57:54 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Responsive hotspot pages In-Reply-To: References: <5587CE6B.20201@tor.nl> <558901D1.7090402@tor.nl> Message-ID: <558C4F3D.80606@tor.nl> Thank you! Fay Cross schreef op 25-6-2015 om 17:00: > I meant to say that I've only done it for the hotspotImage page at the moment but I will do the same to the connector one too > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross > Sent: 25 June 2015 16:00 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Responsive hotspot pages > > Hi Tom > > It looks like it works well. I've just committed a few changes so it doesn't run through all the init code every time the size changes and I've changed the css a bit so the text flows around the panel rather than staying to one side. > > Fay > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 23 June 2015 07:51 > To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Responsive hotspot pages > > Hi, > > I added this to 3.0-beta as well. > > Tom > > Tom Reijnders schreef op 22-6-2015 om 10:59: >> Hi, >> >> In develop, I've committed a few changes to the hotspotImage and the >> connectorHotspotImage to make them more responsive. Can someone take a >> look, so we can decide whther we want to implement this in 3.0-beta as >> well? >> >> Tom >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Jun 26 16:06:17 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:06:17 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Message-ID: <00a301d0b021$e07d6cf0$a17846d0$@co.uk> Hi all was just made aware that the add pdf option in the site template wasn't showing anymore? Haven't had time to look at the commits but have verified that it's not showing with the latest code. Anyone know why? Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 26 16:52:30 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:52:30 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? In-Reply-To: <00a301d0b021$e07d6cf0$a17846d0$@co.uk> References: <00a301d0b021$e07d6cf0$a17846d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E512D167E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> no idea I'm afraid ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 26 June 2015 16:07 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Hi all was just made aware that the add pdf option in the site template wasn't showing anymore? Haven't had time to look at the commits but have verified that it's not showing with the latest code. Anyone know why? 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 29 08:44:45 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:44:45 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E512D167E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00a301d0b021$e07d6cf0$a17846d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E512D167E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E52219E6E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Is it the option to add pdfs generally, or the one we put in recently, for navigators? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 June 2015 16:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? no idea I'm afraid ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 26 June 2015 16:07 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Hi all was just made aware that the add pdf option in the site template wasn't showing anymore? Haven't had time to look at the commits but have verified that it's not showing with the latest code. Anyone know why? Cheers Ron _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Jun 29 17:39:45 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 16:39:45 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E52219E6E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00a301d0b021$e07d6cf0$a17846d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E512D167E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E52219E6E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <005a01d0b28a$6e2cb8c0$4a862a40$@co.uk> It's the one you added to the bootstrap template and then was also fixed for ipad compatibility. It's been there and working but in the current v3 code it's not showing as an option in the bootstrap template. I can't remember if you ever added it as an optional property for the navigators too? I haven't had time to investigate properly but will try to do so tomorrow. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 June 2015 08:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Is it the option to add pdfs generally, or the one we put in recently, for navigators? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 June 2015 16:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? no idea I'm afraid ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 26 June 2015 16:07 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Hi all was just made aware that the add pdf option in the site template wasn't showing anymore? Haven't had time to look at the commits but have verified that it's not showing with the latest code. Anyone know why? Cheers Ron _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 30 09:56:04 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 08:56:04 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? In-Reply-To: <005a01d0b28a$6e2cb8c0$4a862a40$@co.uk> References: <00a301d0b021$e07d6cf0$a17846d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E512D167E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E52219E6E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005a01d0b28a$6e2cb8c0$4a862a40$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5221A50E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > can't remember if you ever added it as an optional property for the navigators too Yes I did. I hope I haven't messed something up. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 June 2015 17:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? It's the one you added to the bootstrap template and then was also fixed for ipad compatibility. It's been there and working but in the current v3 code it's not showing as an option in the bootstrap template. I can't remember if you ever added it as an optional property for the navigators too? I haven't had time to investigate properly but will try to do so tomorrow. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 June 2015 08:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Is it the option to add pdfs generally, or the one we put in recently, for navigators? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 June 2015 16:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? no idea I'm afraid ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 26 June 2015 16:07 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Hi all was just made aware that the add pdf option in the site template wasn't showing anymore? Haven't had time to look at the commits but have verified that it's not showing with the latest code. Anyone know why? Cheers Ron _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 30 11:06:42 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:06:42 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? In-Reply-To: <005a01d0b28a$6e2cb8c0$4a862a40$@co.uk> References: <00a301d0b021$e07d6cf0$a17846d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E512D167E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E52219E6E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005a01d0b28a$6e2cb8c0$4a862a40$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5221A5DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's simply that they are missing from the .xwd file: support still exists in the application.js for PDF. I've added them to the xwd files, but haven't built them, not sure whether the batch file runs all .xwd builds or not (have only used it for the main template...). it's possible I added them to a data.xwd that has then been supersceded when the bat ran and didn't pick up the new items in the src xwds? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 June 2015 17:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? It's the one you added to the bootstrap template and then was also fixed for ipad compatibility. It's been there and working but in the current v3 code it's not showing as an option in the bootstrap template. I can't remember if you ever added it as an optional property for the navigators too? I haven't had time to investigate properly but will try to do so tomorrow. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 June 2015 08:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Is it the option to add pdfs generally, or the one we put in recently, for navigators? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 June 2015 16:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? no idea I'm afraid ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 26 June 2015 16:07 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Hi all was just made aware that the add pdf option in the site template wasn't showing anymore? Haven't had time to look at the commits but have verified that it's not showing with the latest code. Anyone know why? Cheers Ron _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 30 11:08:52 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:08:52 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? In-Reply-To: <005a01d0b28a$6e2cb8c0$4a862a40$@co.uk> References: <00a301d0b021$e07d6cf0$a17846d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E512D167E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E52219E6E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005a01d0b28a$6e2cb8c0$4a862a40$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5221A5E3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Can also confirm they are present in the .xwds in /src, so perhaps it's a case of running the .bat? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 June 2015 17:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? It's the one you added to the bootstrap template and then was also fixed for ipad compatibility. It's been there and working but in the current v3 code it's not showing as an option in the bootstrap template. I can't remember if you ever added it as an optional property for the navigators too? I haven't had time to investigate properly but will try to do so tomorrow. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 June 2015 08:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Is it the option to add pdfs generally, or the one we put in recently, for navigators? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 June 2015 16:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? no idea I'm afraid ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 26 June 2015 16:07 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Hi all was just made aware that the add pdf option in the site template wasn't showing anymore? Haven't had time to look at the commits but have verified that it's not showing with the latest code. Anyone know why? Cheers Ron _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Jun 30 11:27:46 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:27:46 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5221A5DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00a301d0b021$e07d6cf0$a17846d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E512D167E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E52219E6E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005a01d0b28a$6e2cb8c0$4a862a40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5221A5DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <002601d0b31f$9e126c70$da374550$@co.uk> Yeah I worked that out and did a temporary fix on the installation where it was reported but putting in an xwd that did still have the options. My understanding is that if we make any changes to an xwd then even if we do that direct first for ease of testing we then need to repeat those changes in the src folders and run the relevant bat so the change is contained everywhere - is that correct? Is that the reason the changes go lost somehow? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 30 June 2015 11:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? It's simply that they are missing from the .xwd file: support still exists in the application.js for PDF. I've added them to the xwd files, but haven't built them, not sure whether the batch file runs all .xwd builds or not (have only used it for the main template...). it's possible I added them to a data.xwd that has then been supersceded when the bat ran and didn't pick up the new items in the src xwds? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 June 2015 17:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? It's the one you added to the bootstrap template and then was also fixed for ipad compatibility. It's been there and working but in the current v3 code it's not showing as an option in the bootstrap template. I can't remember if you ever added it as an optional property for the navigators too? I haven't had time to investigate properly but will try to do so tomorrow. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 June 2015 08:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Is it the option to add pdfs generally, or the one we put in recently, for navigators? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 June 2015 16:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? no idea I'm afraid ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 26 June 2015 16:07 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Hi all was just made aware that the add pdf option in the site template wasn't showing anymore? Haven't had time to look at the commits but have verified that it's not showing with the latest code. Anyone know why? Cheers Ron _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 30 11:34:00 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:34:00 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? In-Reply-To: <002601d0b31f$9e126c70$da374550$@co.uk> References: <00a301d0b021$e07d6cf0$a17846d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E512D167E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E52219E6E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005a01d0b28a$6e2cb8c0$4a862a40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5221A5DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002601d0b31f$9e126c70$da374550$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5221A632@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> >>My understanding is that if we make any changes to an xwd then even if we do that direct first for ease of testing we then need to repeat those changes in the src folders and run the relevant bat so the change is contained everywhere - is that correct? Is that the reason the changes go lost somehow? Yes, my understanding too, it's just easy to be working on the live xwds and forget to push the updates into /src. Anyway, it's an easy fix at the end of the day. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 30 June 2015 11:29 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Yeah I worked that out and did a temporary fix on the installation where it was reported but putting in an xwd that did still have the options. My understanding is that if we make any changes to an xwd then even if we do that direct first for ease of testing we then need to repeat those changes in the src folders and run the relevant bat so the change is contained everywhere - is that correct? Is that the reason the changes go lost somehow? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 30 June 2015 11:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? It's simply that they are missing from the .xwd file: support still exists in the application.js for PDF. I've added them to the xwd files, but haven't built them, not sure whether the batch file runs all .xwd builds or not (have only used it for the main template...). it's possible I added them to a data.xwd that has then been supersceded when the bat ran and didn't pick up the new items in the src xwds? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 June 2015 17:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? It's the one you added to the bootstrap template and then was also fixed for ipad compatibility. It's been there and working but in the current v3 code it's not showing as an option in the bootstrap template. I can't remember if you ever added it as an optional property for the navigators too? I haven't had time to investigate properly but will try to do so tomorrow. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 June 2015 08:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Is it the option to add pdfs generally, or the one we put in recently, for navigators? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 June 2015 16:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? no idea I'm afraid ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 26 June 2015 16:07 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] what happened to the add pdf option in the site template? Hi all was just made aware that the add pdf option in the site template wasn't showing anymore? Haven't had time to look at the commits but have verified that it's not showing with the latest code. Anyone know why? Cheers Ron _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 30 13:49:03 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:49:03 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte: An Apereo Community Project Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E5221A76A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Good people, The Xerte Project has reached a very significant milestone, having graduated from the Apereo Incubation process to become a fully-fledged Apereo Community project. When I wrote to our user and developer communities about looking for a new home for The Xerte Project back in March 2014, we were uncertain where the road ahead would take us, although we felt at the time that a foundation would offer the solution we were looking for. We began engaging with both the Apache and the Apereo Foundations during the spring of 2014, and at the end of the summer we formally chose to join the Apereo incubation process, feeling that Apereo offered The Xerte Project a lot of opportunities to build relationships with other projects and access to new communities of users and developers with which we share a common problem space in Higher Education. You can find out more about the Apereo Foundation on their website: http://www.apereo.org. The Xerte Project graduates the incubation process in much better shape than it entered: we have changed our licensing to the Apache license, which removes a big barrier to adoption associated with the ambiguities of the GPL. We have thoroughly audited all of the source code and addressed several issues around intellectual property and licensing, and we now have agreements in place with all the people and organisations that have contributed to the project's codebase. We have formed a board of governors to provide oversight, and we have put processes in place for decision making. We've made a lot of information available about how the project works and how to get involved. We have engaged with new communities in Europe and the United States, and we've been blown away with the interest we are generating. With the release of the beta code for Xerte Online Toolkits v3.0 we are poised to bring you the next version of the software, with a host of new features and functionality. You can get the latest code either from the xerte community site: http://www.xerte.org or from our github repository https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits where you can also find a lot of new information on the wiki: https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/wiki. All in all, this is an absolutely fantastic place for the project to get to. I'm enormously grateful to everyone who has contributed to this part of our journey and I'm delighted to be see the project going from strength to strength: there are very exciting opportunities for the project ahead. Best wishes, Julian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: