[Xerte-dev] Re: selecting embed code in the project details panel

Pat Lockley (Pgogy) info at pgogywebstuff.com
Wed Jul 29 10:42:17 BST 2015


Does Decision Tree as a template inherit from anything else?

On 2015-07-29 05:19, Ron Mitchell wrote:
> Hi Fay
> 
> sorry for all the messages here and on github. Quick summary from
> memory:
> 
> 1. The links to the mediaelements stuff were broken as the folder
> didn't exist. I added that folder to the relevant place in the
> decision module and then video/audio worked both online and via
> export.
> 
> 2. John reported than images/media with spaces in the filenames don't
> work when exported but this is a problem with the xot template too.
> Maybe longer term we need to replace spaces in filenames during upload
> like Moodle does.
> 
> 3. The issue I had with creating new decision based projects and
> duplicate ID's may have just been a bug when I was using xampp at the
> time. I can't replicate the problem having removed the duplicate
> folders and I can't replicate it on online installs either. It did
> happen though so would be good to be sure there isn't any difference
> in the code.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Ron
> 
> FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF Fay
> Cross
> SENT: 29 July 2015 09:47
> TO: For Xerte technical developers
> SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: selecting embed code in the project details
> panel
> 
> I've just been through loads of emails about the decision tree
> template and have lost track of what issues have been resolved & which
> are outstanding. I'll go through it today and test adding all optional
> properties to it and see if I find any problems. The adding media
> stuff was definitely working at some point but I have a feeling I know
> what might have changed if it hasn't already been fixed.
> 
> I have no idea about why creating multiple projects would be an issue
> though, I didn't intentionally change anything in the create/delete
> etc. code so no idea why it would be different to other modules.
> 
> FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF Smith,
> John
> SENT: 28 July 2015 17:25
> TO: For Xerte technical developers
> SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: selecting embed code in the project details
> panel
> 
> Hi Ron, glad it helped...
> 
> No, I have to say, while I thought it could be possible, I have never
> seen it happen before. Not sure why the code to create the decision
> tree would be any different though from the others since its really a
> shared task.
> 
> Hmm, I'ts not a bit in the code that I've evervreally looked at since
> it was operational before I became involved. I'll take a look to see
> if I can figure it how it all works though.
> 
> John
> 
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> Date: 28/07/2015 16:58 (GMT+00:00)
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: selecting embed code in the project details
> panel
> 
> Hi John
> ok shutting down and taking a break worked! ;-)
> 
> 1. Yes I can replicate that issue with images with spaces. I'm always
> repeating to users the benefits of avoiding spaces in file names and
> long
> since been in the habit of adding underscores so rarely hit that
> issue. I
> know that Moodle manually adds underscores to individual uploads
> perhaps we
> should look to do the same at some point.
> 
> 2. The issue I was getting with creating decision projects was a
> duplicate
> ID number in the user-files folder. It looks to me like there's a bug
> in the
> decision project creation code which doesn't exist when creating
> projects
> based on the other templates. Or to put it another way I have folders
> with
> the same ID number in user-files e.g.
> 
> 26-guest2-decision
> 26-guest2-site
> 30-guest2-decision
> 30-guest2-Nottingham
> 
> I didn't think that was supposed to be possible but not sure if it's
> down to
> the creation or deletion routine or both.
> 
> Anyone else got this or can replicate by creating a mix of projects in
> quick
> succession?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith,
> John
> Sent: 28 July 2015 16:09
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: selecting embed code in the project details
> panel
> 
> Oh, maybe the messages crossed... I don't have an issue now... well I
> do but
> it's a different one...
> 
> If you upload an image with a space in the filename, the system
> changes it
> to %20. When you export this filename is different from the server one
> and
> so it isn't exported and shows as not in use... it's the same in
> Nottingham
> template too.
> 
> Steps to reproduce:
> 
> Create a new Nottingham template
> Add a text page
> Use the editor to add two images, one with no spaces, one with a space
> in
> the filename Press Play, both images show Close the editor and go to
> Properties -> Media and quota The one with a space shows 'not in use'
> the
> other one shows 'in use'
> 
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences
> 
> T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian
> University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 28 July 2015 16:02
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: selecting embed code in the project details
> panel
> 
> Yeah I'm not seeing the wood for the trees now :-(
> 
> Except I manually removed onselectstart="return false;" from index.php
> on my
> online test install and that isn't causing any problems and I can
> create
> multiple decision projects without problem.
> 
> The problem I've been getting with that is with xampp but only in
> trying to
> replicate the issue you and Julian have reported with images and I'm
> not
> able to replicate that problem.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith,
> John
> Sent: 28 July 2015 15:54
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: selecting embed code in the project details
> panel
> 
> Maybe try restarting the server, shutting down the computer, having a
> cup of
> tea and a biscuit and then restarting the computer will help...
> sometimes
> works for me...
> 
> Although it is probably more to do with the restarting of things than
> the
> tea and biscuit (but any excuse)...
> 
> I'll have a think but just now I am really out of ideas...
> 
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences
> 
> T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian
> University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 28 July 2015 15:53
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: selecting embed code in the project details
> panel
> 
> Hi John
> I tried that css but doesn't seem to be working for me e.g. the text
> still
> isn't selectable in IE unless onselectstart="return false;" is
> removed.
> 
> I've lost track now whether removing the onselectstart="return false;"
> line
> is causing any problems or not. I definitely get problems creating
> multiple
> decision projects whether that line is removed or not. I can't see why
> that
> line removed would only cause this issue with the decision templates
> and not
> the others?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith,
> John
> Sent: 28 July 2015 15:32
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: selecting embed code in the project details
> panel
> 
> Sorry, misleading messages... I mean no issues in creating the
> Decision Tree
> templates that Ron has now found
> 
> I'm fine leaving all that block of select code in until we get around
> to
> clearing it out properly - i'd be more worried about taking stuff out
> at
> this late stage when we don't know what workarounds are in place to
> possibly
> circumvent it. Also, I'd rather button text etc wasn't selected when
> you
> click-move-release which happens more often than not and it is very
> frustrating...
> 
> If someone can test that css on the textarea containing the embed code
> in IE
> then it 'might' be all we need...
> 
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences
> 
> T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 | E: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian
> University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA, Scotland, United Kingdom
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> (Pgogy)
> [info at pgogywebstuff.com]
> Sent: 28 July 2015 15:29
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: selecting embed code in the project details
> panel
> 
> On 2015-07-28 10:27, Smith, John wrote:
>> No issue with that line in or out... see attachment...
> 
> ah ok, was reading the title as a a select issue and wondered if it
> was
> overlapping
> 
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