[Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout

Tom Reijnders reijnders at tor.nl
Fri Jul 17 14:18:22 BST 2015


I will not be able to attend, but have no strong preference either. 
Regrettably I will not have time to help implement changes.

With respect to changes in language. These should be changed in the 
language folder. The translate tool is really only used for translations.

Tom

Op 17-7-2015 om 15:11 schreef Ron Mitchell:
>
> No strong argument here either especially as we've always had that 
> create pnale on the right.
>
> Not unrelated to all this I've had some suggestions that the language 
> used is inconsistent e.g. in different areas of text in the workspace 
> and properties panels we refer to Projects(or LO's as we know them) as 
> Projects, Filesand Templatese.g. see everything in red in the list below.
>
> My suggestion is that we make everything in red say project. In some 
> case this will need to take account of singular or plural e.g.
>
> People who subscribe to the feeds will see new contentas it as added 
> to the feeds.
>
> Would need to change to:
>
> People who subscribe to the feeds will see new projectsas they 
> areadded to the feeds.
>
> Tom: I'm assuming this is best done via the translation tool?
>
> I'm happy to undertake this if we agree and you can provide me with 
> access.
>
> In workspace:
>
> Projectname: my test
>
> This filewas created on
>
> This filewas modified on
>
> This fileis currently set as Private
>
> This templateis not shared
>
> To allow other people to access this file…
>
> This code will allow you to embed your projectinto a web page
>
> This projectis currently using…
>
> Via properties:
>
> Projectname
>
> This filewas created…
>
> This filewas modified…
>
> To allow other people to access this file
>
> This code will allow you to embed your projectinto a web page
>
> This projectis currently using 0.49 MB
>
> This fileis currently set as Public
>
> The templatewill be visible to anyone on the internet
>
> The templatewill be visible to people with an account on this system
>
> Using this setting restricts access to your content. Your contentwill 
> only be visible to people following links to your contentfrom the site 
> you provide. This makes your templatevisible to editors only.
>
> To share this templatewith some one, please type their name here. The 
> user must have an account on the site to appear in this search.
>
> This templateis not shared
>
> Include this projectin the RSS Feeds
>
> Including contentin the export feed allows other users to download 
> your projectand make changes to it themselves
>
> Please add a useful description for your projectin the box below and 
> press the Save button.
>
> You can include this contentin the site's RSS feeds. People who 
> subscribe to the feeds will see new contentas it as added to the 
> feeds. There are several feeds available
>
> This includes all contentmarked for inclusion from the site's users.
>
> This only includes the contentyou have marked for inclusion.
>
> As you organise contentin folders, each folder has it's own RSS feed. 
> This provides a convenient way to include only some of your contentin 
> a feed. See the folder properties for more details, and the link to 
> that folder's feed
>
> Including contentin the export feed allows other users to download 
> your projectand make changes to it themselves
>
> This tab allows you to include to projectin the site's open courseware 
> list. Open Courseware is a set of learning materials that institutions 
> have made publically available for any one to use. The address for 
> this site's syndicated content is
>
> Include this projectin the Open Courseware Feed
>
> Please choose a category for your project
>
> Please choose a licence for your project
>
> Please provide a description for your project
>
> Please provide a list of comma separated keywords for this project
>
> There are several ways to export a project. An exported projectis 
> packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with 
> another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM 
> compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the 
> project'sfiles, or just those files used by the project.
>
> In this section you can set up the peer review for one of your 
> projects. This allows you to send a password protected link to staff, 
> allowing them to access a project, and then giving them the facility 
> to email you feedback
>
> To give this projectto someone, please type their name here. The user 
> must have an account on the site to appear in this search
>
> In this section you can set up the XML Sharing for one of your 
> projects. Your projectmust be published for this to work. This allows 
> your work to be used in other systems
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Fay Cross
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 13:11
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I would layout the panels in the opposite direction but for the same 
> reason as you... when you log in for the first time what do you want 
> to do? Create a project - so that should be on the left. You can only 
> edit projects once you've already created some.
>
> I don't think it's all particularly confusing the way it is now though 
> so aren't going to argue too hard for this!
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Julian Tenney 
> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 13:00
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Do we want to address this layout stuff before the release?
>
> Personally I would like to. I think we can improve on what we have. 
> But this is rapidly growing arms and legs as a problem, and based on 
> my experience this morning, I am not going to be the best person to 
> work it all through.
>
> For what it’s worth, I prefer the new projects stuff on the right, 
> because in the left-to-right information flow, the user’s projects are 
> presented to the user first, which is most likely what they want. The 
> workspace is generally more important to me than the create panel. 
> This is holy war stuff though, I appreciate that!
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Fay Cross
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 12:45
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I think it would make sense to have create new project stuff on the 
> left instead
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Ron Mitchell 
> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 12:41
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> While we're talking about possible changes it occurred to me there 
> might be a more radical change that sort of follows the workflow…
>
> Step 1. Create a new project goes to the left
>
> Step 2. Manage/edit projects goes center
>
> Step 3. Project info goes right and is collapsible
>
> Probably too radical given what we've always had but just a thought!
>
> Also by coincidence copied an old install from one server to another 
> yesterday and was reminded what we used to have and now looks ancient!...
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Fay Cross
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 12:29
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Or, if one of the problems is that the left panel has to be quite wide 
> to fit the buttons on, could we use icons for buttons like in the 
> editor (delete, duplicate, publish...) instead of traditional buttons?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Fay Cross 
> [Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk]
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 12:20
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I was wondering if the centre panel could be merged with the left one 
> some how rather than being separate
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Julian Tenney 
> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 12:14
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Sorting the layout is still problematic.
>
> I’m starting to think the central panel is creating more layout issues 
> than the usability it resolves. Should we consider either rethinking 
> where you get the summary information from, and losing that central panel?
>
> I would like to be able to
>
> -Put the buttons in the header of the left panel; put the sort and 
> search in the footer.
>
> -Insist that the left panel can never get to narrow to display those 
> correctly
>
> -Perhaps the project templates panel should always be a fixed width, 
> let the projects pane take the rest.
>
> Is this worth talking through and getting some agreement before we 
> start changing anything else? Time is running through my fingers here 
> and I’m not achieving very much.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of 
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 12:03
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Duh.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom 
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:58
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Has to be caching. It fires for me.
>
> Op 17-7-2015 om 12:56 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
>     Which is where I’ve worked my way to, but still can’t get this
>     alert to fire
>
>     *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>     [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
>     *Tom Reijnders
>     *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:52
>     *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>     *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>     Strange, because it's really called on line 609
>     Caching?
>
>     Op 17-7-2015 om 12:48 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf
>         Of *Julian Tenney
>         *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:47
>         *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>         Yeah, I found it, not sure what happened there. If I make the
>         first line of that function an alert(“setting”); it never
>         fires (at least I never see the alert).
>
>         Where do I set the initial sizes / percentages, and a minimum
>         width?
>
>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf
>         Of *Tom Reijnders
>         *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:44
>         *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>         Line 618?
>
>         Some of the static values set in setupMainLayout are
>         overridden by dynamicResize()
>
>         Op 17-7-2015 om 12:41 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
>             If I search for ‘dynamicResize’ in  that file, nothing is
>             found.
>
>             There appear to be a load of settings for initialising the
>             layout, but changing them doesn’t appear to make any
>             difference to anything, in setupMainLayout().
>
>             *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>             <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>             [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>             Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
>             *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:35
>             *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>             *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>             Look at dynamicResize in
>             website_code/scripts/screen_display.js
>
>             Op 17-7-2015 om 12:14 schreef Ron Mitchell:
>
>                 While you're searching ;-) try to find where the extra
>                 slash is added which breaks the bootstrap media links
>                 https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/352
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
>                 *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:06
>                 *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 This is where time just disappears for me trying to do
>                 this stuff, I have to resort to searching for class
>                 names in all the files to find references, and then
>                 try and unpick what’s doing what and all I want to do
>                 is set three minimum widths and three initial widths.
>                 That should be six lines of code, preferably in the
>                 same place, and it should take two minutes to change.
>                 Here I am an hour later…
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Fay Cross
>                 *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:04
>                 *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 I don't think anything's minified (but I also don't
>                 know my way around the workspace stuff to advise where
>                 to change stuff either)
>
>                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] on
>                 behalf of Julian Tenney
>                 [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
>                 *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:00
>                 *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 Fair dos.
>
>                 I’m not sure whether the jquery layout stuff has
>                 source files, and then a minified runtime file? I can
>                 find some setup info, but changing anything doesn’t
>                 change anything.
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
>                 *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:59
>                 *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 Not sure without looking. Busy with something more
>                 urgent right now but can have a look later if you
>                 haven't found it by then.
>
>                 Want to test Fay's additions too but non-xerte stuff
>                 to finish first. :-(
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
>                 *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:50
>                 *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 Do you know how to set the initial width of the panels?
>
>                 Can we apply a minimum width to prevent folk making it
>                 too narrow? (less important)
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
>                 *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:36
>                 *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 Aside from closing the 6 issues we currently have on
>                 github flagged as v3 release personally I think the
>                 most important thing with this is getting a panel of
>                 logos complete with links in the footer somewhere. I
>                 don't think your solution of adding the OSI logo
>                 alongside the Apereo logo top right is the right
>                 solution for 2 reasons:
>
>                 1. The vast majority of organisations using Xerte that
>                 I know of (and I'm sure Tom echos this) want their own
>                 logo either top right or top left. We have a built-in
>                 solution for that but it means one or other of the
>                 'official' logos get removed.
>
>                 2. Ideally I think we want each of the logos to also
>                 link off to the relevant site pages.
>
>                 The CSS isn't right, especially the logos, but
>                 something like this?
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
>                 *Sent:* 17 July 2015 09:16
>                 *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 Not sure authoring on phones is viable though? My Asus
>                 transformer has 800 px width; the iPad 750, which
>                 ought to be plenty. Do we want to progress looking at
>                 this before we release the code? I’m happy to do the
>                 work, but find it a bit slow picking through the code
>                 / implications for languages, and I’m a bit time
>                 limited over the next few weeks.
>
>                 Perhaps make it a 3.1 thing and get concentrate on
>                 getting v3.0 out the door
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
>                 *Sent:* 16 July 2015 17:06
>                 *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 > How wide is portrait view on a tablet?<
>
>                 What tablet? ;-)
>
>                 Attached is a screenshot from my iPad - appears to be
>                 1536px wide in Portrait view. But I suspect the lowest
>                 common denominator is less than that. e.g.
>
>                 http://www.websitedimensions.com/pixel/
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
>                 *Sent:* 16 July 2015 16:01
>                 *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 This looks nicer I think (I haven’t managed to sort
>                 the search box styles yet). Presumably we can fix a
>                 minimum width for the panel? Things get screwy when it
>                 is smaller than about 540 pixels. How wide is portrait
>                 view on a tablet?
>
>                 I know these are small issues compared to a lot of
>                 things we’ve worked through lately, but for some
>                 users, the look and feel is really important and
>                 sometimes it’s just a few small things that really
>                 make the difference.
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
>                 *Sent:* 16 July 2015 15:38
>                 *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 Not wedded to the search box being at the top.
>
>                 Although I wondered about the How to, feedback and
>                 site links etc being in an orange menu to the right of
>                 the Sort menu and then leaving space for a centered
>                 logo panel in the footer.
>
>                 Shouldn't the heading you've added by My Projects and
>                 left aligned?
>
>                 Agree the middle panel should be wider by default and
>                 the left panel narrower to accommodate that.
>
>                 Something like this mock up?
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
>                 *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:54
>                 *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 I was thinking it makes sense to have similar things
>                 in proximity. Both the search and the sort are to do
>                 with the workspace items, it makes sense to me to put
>                 these controls together.
>
>                 Also this is a consistency thing: some tabs have
>                 titles, some don’t. Either let’s give them all titles,
>                 or let’s lose the big header on the tabs altogether
>                 maybe: if it’s not serving any purpose, why use the
>                 space? Also with this, the headers create a division /
>                 barrier between the projects and the controls to edit
>                 / properties etc. Previously these controls were much
>                 more clearly associated with the list of projects in
>                 the workspace. Could we put those buttons in the
>                 header perhaps? It does make sense that they are more
>                 closely associated with the project list, as the
>                 projects are the things they control.
>
>                 By default the project details tab, the central one,
>                 doesn’t look very nice as it’s very narrow.
>
>                 This is what we have now, which I like a lot: it’s
>                 clean / FWS etc.
>
>                 And this is what we have in x3 which looks nice, but
>                 could still do with a few tweaks to make it really lovely:
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
>                 *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:44
>                 *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
>                 I would leave the search box where it is but make it
>                 less wide and put the title to the left. It seems more
>                 inuititive to have the search at the top rather than
>                 the bottom.
>
>                 *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                 [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                 Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
>                 *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:31
>                 *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>                 (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                 <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>)
>                 *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Workspace Layout
>
>                 What do you think of the idea of moving the search box
>                 down next to the ‘Sort your files’ drop down, and then
>                 we can give all three tabs titles:
>
>                 Your Projects, Project Details, Project Templates
>
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