From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 2 14:09:51 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 14:09:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Apereo Webinar Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE8585AFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hi, Just had a quick chat with Ron about the webinar next week on Wednesday: we thought we'd basically follow the format of the presentation in Paris. We haven't planned much in detail, because we can easily fill the time between us. We'll kick it off asking the audience what they want to get out of the session, and then when they tell us 'er, a bit of background, maybe a bit of a demo..' we'll be all set. I'll talk about the background of the project and all that good stuff; Ron will give a demo of the main features; if Fay could be ready to show some of the new templates, that would be great, and if Inge, you wanted to say a bit about the community site that would also be cool. Happy for anyone else to chip in with anything, but we have a basic structure and enough nous to carry it off. The webinar is at 18.00 UK time; 19.00 Dutch time; 12.00 EST. Enjoy the long weekend. J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From i.donkervoort at 12change.eu Thu Apr 2 14:18:16 2015 From: i.donkervoort at 12change.eu (Inge Donkervoort 12Change) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 15:18:16 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Apereo Webinar In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE8585AFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE8585AFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <551D4198.1080807@12change.eu> Hi Julian, That's fine. Happy to do that! Bye, Inge 12Changebv Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 M 06-50267104 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Julian Tenney schreef op 2-4-2015 15:09: > > Hi, > > Just had a quick chat with Ron about the webinar next week on > Wednesday: we thought we'd basically follow the format of the > presentation in Paris. We haven't planned much in detail, because we > can easily fill the time between us. We'll kick it off asking the > audience what they want to get out of the session, and then when they > tell us 'er, a bit of background, maybe a bit of a demo..' we'll be > all set. I'll talk about the background of the project and all that > good stuff; Ron will give a demo of the main features; if Fay could be > ready to show some of the new templates, that would be great, and if > Inge, you wanted to say a bit about the community site that would also > be cool. Happy for anyone else to chip in with anything, but we have a > basic structure and enough nous to carry it off. > > The webinar is at 18.00 UK time; 19.00 Dutch time; 12.00 EST. > > Enjoy the long weekend. > > J > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Sorry to have missed it if I do! ?Brad > On Jan 16, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Inge Donkervoort 12Change wrote: > > No problem :) > > 1 2 Change bv > > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > M 06-50267104 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn Julian Tenney schreef op 16-1-2015 11:24: >> Thanks, >> >> From: Alistair McNaught [mailto:Alistair.McNaught at jisc.ac.uk ] >> Sent: 16 January 2015 10:24 >> To: Julian Tenney; For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ) >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Apereo Webinar Series Q1 and Q2 2015 >> >> Happy to contribute ? I?m likely to be visiting family in Oman then so couldn?t guarantee being available for online contribution since we might be out in the desert but happy to create some slides/notes. >> >> A >> >> From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk ] >> Sent: 16 January 2015 09:09 >> To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ) >> Cc: Alistair McNaught >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Apereo Webinar Series Q1 and Q2 2015 >> >> I need to write a summary paragraph for the Apereo webinar in April so Ian can publicise it. How about we use the basic structure we thrashed out for the Paris presentation coming up next month: we should be able to re-use some of the materials we put together as well. >> >> "Xerte Online Toolkits is a new project to Apereo, currently working through the incubation process. In this webinar, the Xerte developers will introduce themselves, and the software, to the Apereo Community. Julian Tenney will say a little about where the project came from, and how it came to be an Apereo project; Ron Mitchell will provide an overview and demonstrate the software's key features and Tom Reijnders will show some of the new developments currently taking place." >> >> It would be good for everyone to be involved in this if possible ? I?m keen to make the most of our opportunities to introduce ourselves to Apereo. I wonder if Alistair (copied in) might like to say something about accessibility? Whether Inge and Katrien might like to say something about our community(s)? Whether Fay might like to say something about developing templates? >> >> Open to ideas, >> >> J >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tenney Julian >> Sent: 07 January 2015 15:48 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Apereo Webinar Series Q1 and Q2 2015 >> >> Thanks, >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 07 January 2015 15:47 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Apereo Webinar Series Q1 and Q2 2015 >> >> Will do. >> >> Julian Tenney schreef op 7-1-2015 om 12:18: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have signed up to do an Introduction to Xerte Online Toolkits on 8th April. It would be good if as many of you as possible would be able to drop in as well, so we can introduce ourselves and the software to the Apereo community. Maybe we'll be close to the release by then too..? >> > >> > We can figure it out nearer the time, but for now, would you mind putting it in your diaries? >> > >> > 8th April, 12.00 EST (which I think is 17.00 BST) >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Julian >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: projects at apereo.org [mailto:projects at apereo.org ] On Behalf Of Ian Dolphin >> > Sent: 07 January 2015 10:56 >> > To: projects at apereo.org >> > Subject: [apereo-projects] Apereo Webinar Series Q1 and Q2 2015 >> > >> > All >> > >> > I'd like to wish you all a happy new year, and every success for 2015. >> > >> > Last year we began a series of Apereo webinars to provide updates, or in some cases introductions, to project and other activity across the Apereo community. I'd like to follow through by making this very much a rolling process. >> > >> > If you would like to provide a webinar - either to introduce your project to a potentially wider audience, focus on a particular aspect of recent development, or perhaps a forthcoming release, please sign up on this googledoc - >> > >> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IZpuN8PqbnYm-VelqI7aYtMydG5CYaeryKbFQgBRmg0/edit >> > >> > The googledoc is editable by anyone with the link - so I'd be grateful if it were not published on a publicly accessible list. >> > >> > Dates range from the end of January to May, but I'd encourage you to identify a topic and commit to a date as soon as possible, so that we can begin to push publicity out. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > Best >> > >> > Ian >> > >> > >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. 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Bye, Inge 12Changebv Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 M 06-50267104 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Smith, Bradley schreef op 8-4-2015 18:57: > Argh, I had another meeting overlap with the webinar, then I went to > join and realized that I don't think I ever got an actual link to it! :( > > If anyone sees this while it's still happening (if it's still > happening), help me out? > > Sorry to have missed it if I do! > > ---Brad > >> On Jan 16, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Inge Donkervoort 12Change >> > wrote: >> >> No problem :) >> >> 12Changebv >> >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242 HM Rosmalen >> T 073-5226195 >> M 06-50267104 >> F 073-5226196 >> Ei.donkervoort at 12change.eu >> Iwww.12change.eu >> >> Ttwitter >> LlinkedIn >> Julian Tenney schreef op 16-1-2015 11:24: >>> Thanks, >>> *From:*Alistair McNaught [mailto:Alistair.McNaught at jisc.ac.uk] >>> *Sent:*16 January 2015 10:24 >>> *To:*Julian Tenney; For Xerte technical developers >>> (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) >>> *Subject:*RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Apereo Webinar Series Q1 and Q2 2015 >>> Happy to contribute -- I'm likely to be visiting family in Oman then >>> so couldn't guarantee being available for online contribution since >>> we might be out in the desert but happy to create some slides/notes. >>> A >>> *From:*Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >>> *Sent:*16 January 2015 09:09 >>> *To:*For Xerte technical developers >>> (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> ) >>> *Cc:*Alistair McNaught >>> *Subject:*RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Apereo Webinar Series Q1 and Q2 2015 >>> I need to write a summary paragraph for the Apereo webinar in April >>> so Ian can publicise it. How about we use the basic structure we >>> thrashed out for the Paris presentation coming up next month: we >>> should be able to re-use some of the materials we put together as well. >>> "Xerte Online Toolkits is a new project to Apereo, currently working >>> through the incubation process. In this webinar, the Xerte >>> developers will introduce themselves, and the software, to the >>> Apereo Community. Julian Tenney will say a little about where the >>> project came from, and how it came to be an Apereo project; Ron >>> Mitchell will provide an overview and demonstrate the software's key >>> features and Tom Reijnders will show some of the new developments >>> currently taking place." >>> It would be good for everyone to be involved in this if possible -- >>> I'm keen to make the most of our opportunities to introduce >>> ourselves to Apereo. I wonder if Alistair (copied in) might like to >>> say something about accessibility? Whether Inge and Katrien might >>> like to say something about our community(s)? Whether Fay might like >>> to say something about developing templates? >>> Open to ideas, >>> J >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tenney Julian >>> Sent: 07 January 2015 15:48 >>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Apereo Webinar Series Q1 and Q2 2015 >>> Thanks, >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >>> On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>> Sent: 07 January 2015 15:47 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Apereo Webinar Series Q1 and Q2 2015 >>> Will do. >>> Julian Tenney schreef op 7-1-2015 om 12:18: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > I have signed up to do an Introduction to Xerte Online Toolkits on >>> 8th April. It would be good if as many of you as possible would be >>> able to drop in as well, so we can introduce ourselves and the >>> software to the Apereo community. Maybe we'll be close to the >>> release by then too..? >>> > >>> > We can figure it out nearer the time, but for now, would you mind >>> putting it in your diaries? >>> > >>> > 8th April, 12.00 EST (which I think is 17.00 BST) >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > >>> > Julian >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From:projects at apereo.org >>> [mailto:projects at apereo.org] On Behalf >>> Of Ian Dolphin >>> > Sent: 07 January 2015 10:56 >>> > To:projects at apereo.org >>> > Subject: [apereo-projects] Apereo Webinar Series Q1 and Q2 2015 >>> > >>> > All >>> > >>> > I'd like to wish you all a happy new year, and every success for 2015. >>> > >>> > Last year we began a series of Apereo webinars to provide updates, >>> or in some cases introductions, to project and other activity across >>> the Apereo community. I'd like to follow through by making this very >>> much a rolling process. >>> > >>> > If you would like to provide a webinar - either to introduce your >>> project to a potentially wider audience, focus on a particular >>> aspect of recent development, or perhaps a forthcoming release, >>> please sign up on this googledoc - >>> > >>> >https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IZpuN8PqbnYm-VelqI7aYtMydG5CYaeryKbFQgBRmg0/edit >>> > >>> > The googledoc is editable by anyone with the link - so I'd be >>> grateful if it were not published on a publicly accessible list. >>> > >>> > Dates range from the end of January to May, but I'd encourage you >>> to identify a topic and commit to a date as soon as possible, so >>> that we can begin to push publicity out. >>> > >>> > Thanks! >>> > >>> > Best >>> > >>> > Ian >>> > >>> > >>> -- >>> -- >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >>> >>> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >>> message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the >>> author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >>> University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >>> computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >>> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >>> permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> Jisc is a registered charity (number 1149740) and a company limited >>> by guarantee which is registered in England under Company No. >>> 5747339, VAT No. GB 197 0632 86. Jisc's registered office is: One >>> Castlepark, Tower Hill, Bristol, BS2 0JA. T 0203 697 5800. >>> >>> Jisc Collections and Janet Ltd. is a wholly owned Jisc subsidiary >>> and a company limited by guarantee which is registered in England >>> under Company No. number 2881024, VAT No. GB 197 0632 86. The >>> registered office is: Lumen House, Library Avenue, Harwell, Didcot, >>> Oxfordshire, OX11 0SG. T 01235 822200. >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >>> >>> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >>> message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the >>> author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >>> University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >>> computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >>> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >>> permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >> >> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >> message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the >> author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >> University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >> permitted by UK legislation. >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Apr 10 12:05:33 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:05:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. Message-ID: <006301d0737e$4544e180$cfcea480$@co.uk> Hi all I'm posting here but have also posted to the issue reported by Brad I think at https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/222 I've been testing some stuff on a localhost xampp installation on and off over the last few days and again this morning. This is recent develop code but not the very latest. I'm not sure what caused this but now when I try to edit an existing or new LO and browser for media I get the following error: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. This happens regardless of account, browser, project etc and I've completely shut down xampp, cleared session files and re-started but still the same problem. I remember having similar problems in a much earlier test version on the Techdis server where there was more than one install and liaising with Tom but never resolving it then and in this local xampp instance there's only a singe XOT install. It also inside a Moodle directory like the Techdis server was but has been working fine until this problem arose this morning and now even with auth_config set to guest or static effectively the install is broken because it's not possible to browse for media. In this case I can potentially just scrap and replace the install but I seem to recall when I tried that on the Techdis server previously it didn't resolve the problem and I'm worried about this happening on live installations. There are plenty using Moodle authentication. Any additional ideas re cause/solution? This happens when the pop-up opens: http://localhost/moodle/xerte/editor/elfinder/browse.php?type=media&lang=en And the FF console shows 2 repeat errors: Line 1339 toolbox.js console.log('Browse file: ' + id + ': ' + key + ', ' + name + ', ' + value); Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Apr 10 12:32:42 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:32:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. In-Reply-To: <006301d0737e$4544e180$cfcea480$@co.uk> References: <006301d0737e$4544e180$cfcea480$@co.uk> Message-ID: <007401d07382$101fb300$305f1900$@co.uk> Exploring this further I first tried using the purge all caches function via Moodle admin and same problem existed. I then removed the integration_path from site_details and tried again via guest and all worked fine. I then re-added the integration_path and tested again via guest and all still worked fine. Changed auth_config back to using Moodle authentication and all still working fine. Not sure if that helps apart from seemingly being a fix for a previously working install using Moodle authentication that had become broken but works again after removing and re-adding the integration_path. I guess somewhere these steps are killing the conflicting session or cache but not sure what's causing the conflict in the first place and clearly that's what we need to identify. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 April 2015 12:06 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. Hi all I'm posting here but have also posted to the issue reported by Brad I think at https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/222 I've been testing some stuff on a localhost xampp installation on and off over the last few days and again this morning. This is recent develop code but not the very latest. I'm not sure what caused this but now when I try to edit an existing or new LO and browser for media I get the following error: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. This happens regardless of account, browser, project etc and I've completely shut down xampp, cleared session files and re-started but still the same problem. I remember having similar problems in a much earlier test version on the Techdis server where there was more than one install and liaising with Tom but never resolving it then and in this local xampp instance there's only a singe XOT install. It also inside a Moodle directory like the Techdis server was but has been working fine until this problem arose this morning and now even with auth_config set to guest or static effectively the install is broken because it's not possible to browse for media. In this case I can potentially just scrap and replace the install but I seem to recall when I tried that on the Techdis server previously it didn't resolve the problem and I'm worried about this happening on live installations. There are plenty using Moodle authentication. Any additional ideas re cause/solution? This happens when the pop-up opens: http://localhost/moodle/xerte/editor/elfinder/browse.php?type=media &lang=en And the FF console shows 2 repeat errors: Line 1339 toolbox.js console.log('Browse file: ' + id + ': ' + key + ', ' + name + ', ' + value); Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Apr 10 12:37:32 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:37:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. In-Reply-To: <007401d07382$101fb300$305f1900$@co.uk> References: <006301d0737e$4544e180$cfcea480$@co.uk>, <007401d07382$101fb300$305f1900$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Ron, IT would seem like the data being sent from the server is not valid JSON but is somehow being corrupted. It would be useful to capture this data and the headers being sent (would have been available in the console) so that we can check it's structure. You don't say at what point you get the error. Does the editor fully load or is it during the load cycle that it happens? I've seen a few strange things happen with the editor where files load in the wrong order (something which should be handled more elegantly) and they continue to load in the wrong order when you refresh but if you close and reopen the editor or click in the address bar and press enter then they resolve... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 10 April 2015 12:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. Exploring this further I first tried using the purge all caches function via Moodle admin and same problem existed. I then removed the integration_path from site_details and tried again via guest and all worked fine. I then re-added the integration_path and tested again via guest and all still worked fine. Changed auth_config back to using Moodle authentication and all still working fine. Not sure if that helps apart from seemingly being a fix for a previously working install using Moodle authentication that had become broken but works again after removing and re-adding the integration_path. I guess somewhere these steps are killing the conflicting session or cache but not sure what's causing the conflict in the first place and clearly that's what we need to identify. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 April 2015 12:06 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. Hi all I'm posting here but have also posted to the issue reported by Brad I think at https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/222 I've been testing some stuff on a localhost xampp installation on and off over the last few days and again this morning. This is recent develop code but not the very latest. I'm not sure what caused this but now when I try to edit an existing or new LO and browser for media I get the following error: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. This happens regardless of account, browser, project etc and I've completely shut down xampp, cleared session files and re-started but still the same problem. I remember having similar problems in a much earlier test version on the Techdis server where there was more than one install and liaising with Tom but never resolving it then and in this local xampp instance there's only a singe XOT install. It also inside a Moodle directory like the Techdis server was but has been working fine until this problem arose this morning and now even with auth_config set to guest or static effectively the install is broken because it's not possible to browse for media. In this case I can potentially just scrap and replace the install but I seem to recall when I tried that on the Techdis server previously it didn't resolve the problem and I'm worried about this happening on live installations. There are plenty using Moodle authentication. Any additional ideas re cause/solution? This happens when the pop-up opens: http://localhost/moodle/xerte/editor/elfinder/browse.php?type=media&lang=en And the FF console shows 2 repeat errors: Line 1339 toolbox.js console.log('Browse file: ' + id + ': ' + key + ', ' + name + ', ' + value); Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Apr 10 13:03:43 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:03:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. In-Reply-To: References: <006301d0737e$4544e180$cfcea480$@co.uk>, <007401d07382$101fb300$305f1900$@co.uk> Message-ID: <007f01d07386$65678780$30369680$@co.uk> Hi John The editor loads but when clicking to browse for any kind of media e.g. any of the image browse buttons the elfinder browse pop up opens http://localhost/moodle/xerte/editor/elfinder/browse.php?type=media&lang=en and gives the error. I can't reproduce this now because removing the integration path and then re-adding it resolved the problem. Perhaps that was coincidental but I suspect it's related to the issue reported at https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/222 but made worse by the fact that the cause of the issue is intermittant. e.g. as I mentioned I'd been using this xampp install with Moodle authentication enabled without problem until getting the problem at one point this morning. Only noticed it when browsing for a new image. If it happens again I'll try to pature the data and headers. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 April 2015 12:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. Hi Ron, IT would seem like the data being sent from the server is not valid JSON but is somehow being corrupted. It would be useful to capture this data and the headers being sent (would have been available in the console) so that we can check it's structure. You don't say at what point you get the error. Does the editor fully load or is it during the load cycle that it happens? I've seen a few strange things happen with the editor where files load in the wrong order (something which should be handled more elegantly) and they continue to load in the wrong order when you refresh but if you close and reopen the editor or click in the address bar and press enter then they resolve... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 10 April 2015 12:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. Exploring this further I first tried using the purge all caches function via Moodle admin and same problem existed. I then removed the integration_path from site_details and tried again via guest and all worked fine. I then re-added the integration_path and tested again via guest and all still worked fine. Changed auth_config back to using Moodle authentication and all still working fine. Not sure if that helps apart from seemingly being a fix for a previously working install using Moodle authentication that had become broken but works again after removing and re-adding the integration_path. I guess somewhere these steps are killing the conflicting session or cache but not sure what's causing the conflict in the first place and clearly that's what we need to identify. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 April 2015 12:06 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. Hi all I'm posting here but have also posted to the issue reported by Brad I think at https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/222 I've been testing some stuff on a localhost xampp installation on and off over the last few days and again this morning. This is recent develop code but not the very latest. I'm not sure what caused this but now when I try to edit an existing or new LO and browser for media I get the following error: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. This happens regardless of account, browser, project etc and I've completely shut down xampp, cleared session files and re-started but still the same problem. I remember having similar problems in a much earlier test version on the Techdis server where there was more than one install and liaising with Tom but never resolving it then and in this local xampp instance there's only a singe XOT install. It also inside a Moodle directory like the Techdis server was but has been working fine until this problem arose this morning and now even with auth_config set to guest or static effectively the install is broken because it's not possible to browse for media. In this case I can potentially just scrap and replace the install but I seem to recall when I tried that on the Techdis server previously it didn't resolve the problem and I'm worried about this happening on live installations. There are plenty using Moodle authentication. Any additional ideas re cause/solution? This happens when the pop-up opens: http://localhost/moodle/xerte/editor/elfinder/browse.php?type=media&lang=en And the FF console shows 2 repeat errors: Line 1339 toolbox.js console.log('Browse file: ' + id + ': ' + key + ', ' + name + ', ' + value); Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Apr 10 13:12:52 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:12:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. In-Reply-To: <007f01d07386$65678780$30369680$@co.uk> References: <006301d0737e$4544e180$cfcea480$@co.uk>, <007401d07382$101fb300$305f1900$@co.uk> , <007f01d07386$65678780$30369680$@co.uk> Message-ID: Ah I get it and have seen similar behaviour when working with the Flash cookie bug issue... Most likely elfinder now has a valid session to use because you switched to guest and will continue to be able to use that session until it expires. After it expires though you will probably get similar errors... This happened with the upload code for the flash cookie bug and caused a lot of testing that appeared to show it working to infact just be caused by a valid session somehow being created... Even though it is working now you may find that if you do what Brad suggested and look at the session ids being used by both parts, xot will be using the moodleid and elfinder will be using the php session that became valid while you had guest login active... that session is still valid but should clear if you restart php I would assume but don't know enough about how xampp and php manage sessions... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 10 April 2015 13:03 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. Hi John The editor loads but when clicking to browse for any kind of media e.g. any of the image browse buttons the elfinder browse pop up opens http://localhost/moodle/xerte/editor/elfinder/browse.php?type=media&lang=en and gives the error. I can't reproduce this now because removing the integration path and then re-adding it resolved the problem. Perhaps that was coincidental but I suspect it's related to the issue reported at https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/222 but made worse by the fact that the cause of the issue is intermittant. e.g. as I mentioned I'd been using this xampp install with Moodle authentication enabled without problem until getting the problem at one point this morning. Only noticed it when browsing for a new image. If it happens again I'll try to pature the data and headers. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 April 2015 12:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. Hi Ron, IT would seem like the data being sent from the server is not valid JSON but is somehow being corrupted. It would be useful to capture this data and the headers being sent (would have been available in the console) so that we can check it's structure. You don't say at what point you get the error. Does the editor fully load or is it during the load cycle that it happens? I've seen a few strange things happen with the editor where files load in the wrong order (something which should be handled more elegantly) and they continue to load in the wrong order when you refresh but if you close and reopen the editor or click in the address bar and press enter then they resolve... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 10 April 2015 12:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. Exploring this further I first tried using the purge all caches function via Moodle admin and same problem existed. I then removed the integration_path from site_details and tried again via guest and all worked fine. I then re-added the integration_path and tested again via guest and all still worked fine. Changed auth_config back to using Moodle authentication and all still working fine. Not sure if that helps apart from seemingly being a fix for a previously working install using Moodle authentication that had become broken but works again after removing and re-adding the integration_path. I guess somewhere these steps are killing the conflicting session or cache but not sure what's causing the conflict in the first place and clearly that's what we need to identify. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 April 2015 12:06 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. Hi all I'm posting here but have also posted to the issue reported by Brad I think at https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/222 I've been testing some stuff on a localhost xampp installation on and off over the last few days and again this morning. This is recent develop code but not the very latest. I'm not sure what caused this but now when I try to edit an existing or new LO and browser for media I get the following error: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. This happens regardless of account, browser, project etc and I've completely shut down xampp, cleared session files and re-started but still the same problem. I remember having similar problems in a much earlier test version on the Techdis server where there was more than one install and liaising with Tom but never resolving it then and in this local xampp instance there's only a singe XOT install. It also inside a Moodle directory like the Techdis server was but has been working fine until this problem arose this morning and now even with auth_config set to guest or static effectively the install is broken because it's not possible to browse for media. In this case I can potentially just scrap and replace the install but I seem to recall when I tried that on the Techdis server previously it didn't resolve the problem and I'm worried about this happening on live installations. There are plenty using Moodle authentication. Any additional ideas re cause/solution? This happens when the pop-up opens: http://localhost/moodle/xerte/editor/elfinder/browse.php?type=media&lang=en And the FF console shows 2 repeat errors: Line 1339 toolbox.js console.log('Browse file: ' + id + ': ' + key + ', ' + name + ', ' + value); Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From brsmith at akamai.com Fri Apr 10 15:34:02 2015 From: brsmith at akamai.com (Smith, Bradley) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:34:02 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. In-Reply-To: References: <006301d0737e$4544e180$cfcea480$@co.uk> <,> <007401d07382$101fb300$305f1900$@co.uk> Message-ID: <2984F265-3126-4C97-B7CE-60F13AB28DC4@akamai.com> John, At least for me, the reason for the ?Data is not JSON? error is that elfinder isn?t using the same session as Xerte+moodle_auth, and when it can?t find evidence of a login it redirects to index.php, the output of which is the ?invalid JSON? that is sent in response to the AJAX call. See the issue report on GitHub for details. Thanks for following up on this, Ron! ?Brad > On Apr 10, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Smith, John wrote: > > Hi Ron, > > IT would seem like the data being sent from the server is not valid JSON but is somehow being corrupted. It would be useful to capture this data and the headers being sent (would have been available in the console) so that we can check it's structure. You don't say at what point you get the error. Does the editor fully load or is it during the load cycle that it happens? I've seen a few strange things happen with the editor where files load in the wrong order (something which should be handled more elegantly) and they continue to load in the wrong order when you refresh but if you close and reopen the editor or click in the address bar and press enter then they resolve... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 10 April 2015 12:32 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. > > Exploring this further I first tried using the purge all caches function via Moodle admin and same problem existed. > I then removed the integration_path from site_details and tried again via guest and all worked fine. > I then re-added the integration_path and tested again via guest and all still worked fine. > Changed auth_config back to using Moodle authentication and all still working fine. > Not sure if that helps apart from seemingly being a fix for a previously working install using Moodle authentication that had become broken but works again after removing and re-adding the integration_path. I guess somewhere these steps are killing the conflicting session or cache but not sure what's causing the conflict in the first place and clearly that's what we need to identify. > Ron > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 10 April 2015 12:06 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. > > Hi all > I'm posting here but have also posted to the issue reported by Brad I think at https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/222 > > I've been testing some stuff on a localhost xampp installation on and off over the last few days and again this morning. This is recent develop code but not the very latest. I'm not sure what caused this but now when I try to edit an existing or new LO and browser for media I get the following error: > > Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. > > This happens regardless of account, browser, project etc and I've completely shut down xampp, cleared session files and re-started but still the same problem. I remember having similar problems in a much earlier test version on the Techdis server where there was more than one install and liaising with Tom but never resolving it then and in this local xampp instance there's only a singe XOT install. It also inside a Moodle directory like the Techdis server was but has been working fine until this problem arose this morning and now even with auth_config set to guest or static effectively the install is broken because it's not possible to browse for media. In this case I can potentially just scrap and replace the install but I seem to recall when I tried that on the Techdis server previously it didn't resolve the problem and I'm worried about this happening on live installations. There are plenty using Moodle authentication. > > Any additional ideas re cause/solution? > > This happens when the pop-up opens: > http://localhost/moodle/xerte/editor/elfinder/browse.php?type=media&lang=en > > And the FF console shows 2 repeat errors: > Line 1339 toolbox.js > console.log('Browse file: ' + id + ': ' + key + ', ' + name + ', ' + value); > > Cheers > Ron > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > > message or in any attachment. 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However I've tested existing examples and new tests e.g. 2.1 test http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_170 and develop test http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=5 and section links on these end up below the section heading e.g. 1. Click section 3 2. The section displays below the heading and you have to scroll up slightly to see/read the heading Is this something that changed in the code or what's different between the Nottingham example and others? Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 16708 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 13 April 2015 12:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] site/bootstrap section link differences? Hi all I'd not noticed this before but was asked about it so completed a few tests? On the technical demonstrator http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8222 when you click a section link on any of the pages e.g. 1. Click Audio on the first page? 2. 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This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 13 April 2015 12:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] site/bootstrap section link differences? Hi all I'd not noticed this before but was asked about it so completed a few tests? On the technical demonstrator http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8222 when you click a section link on any of the pages e.g. 1. Click Audio on the first page? 2. The page jumps down to the heading of that section and the heading Audio aligns at the top of the page. [cid:image003.jpg at 01D075E3.39CEBB20] However I've tested existing examples and new tests e.g. 2.1 test http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_170 and develop test http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=5 and section links on these end up below the section heading e.g. 1. Click section 3 2. The section displays below the heading and you have to scroll up slightly to see/read the heading [cid:image004.jpg at 01D075E3.39CEBB20] Is this something that changed in the code or what's different between the Nottingham example and others? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Apr 13 13:35:17 2015 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:35:17 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. In-Reply-To: <2984F265-3126-4C97-B7CE-60F13AB28DC4@akamai.com> References: <006301d0737e$4544e180$cfcea480$@co.uk> <, > <007401d07382$101fb300$305f1900$@co.uk> <2984F265-3126-4C97-B7CE-60F13AB28DC4@akamai.com> Message-ID: <552BB805.40302@tor.nl> Brad, connector.php is custom code (written by me). Could you try the following: |//session_start(); require_once(dirname(__FILE__).DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR."../../../config.php"); | It will start the session in exactly the same way as it is started in other parts of Xerte. I've verified that this keeps working in normal circumstances. Could you please check if this solves your issue? Than I will commit the fix. Thank you! Tom Smith, Bradley schreef op 10-4-2015 om 16:34: > John, > > At least for me, the reason for the ?Data is not JSON? error is that > elfinder isn?t using the same session as Xerte+moodle_auth, and when > it can?t find evidence of a login it redirects to index.php, the > output of which is the ?invalid JSON? that is sent in response to the > AJAX call. > > See theissue report on GitHub > for details. > > > Thanks for following up on this, Ron! > > ?Brad > >> On Apr 10, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Smith, John > > wrote: >> >> Hi Ron, >> >> IT would seem like the data being sent from the server is not valid >> JSON but is somehow being corrupted. It would be useful to capture >> this data and the headers being sent (would have been available in >> the console) so that we can check it's structure. You don't say at >> what point you get the error. Does the editor fully load or is it >> during the load cycle that it happens? I've seen a few strange things >> happen with the editor where files load in the wrong order (something >> which should be handled more elegantly) and they continue to load in >> the wrong order when you refresh but if you close and reopen the >> editor or click in the address bar and press enter then they resolve... >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> >> Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk >> where one of the School Learning >> Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs >> are completed as promptly as possible. >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk ] >> Sent: 10 April 2015 12:32 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. >> >> Exploring this further I first tried using the purge all caches >> function via Moodle admin and same problem existed. >> I then removed the integration_path from site_details and tried again >> via guest and all worked fine. >> I then re-added the integration_path and tested again via guest and >> all still worked fine. >> Changed auth_config back to using Moodle authentication and all still >> working fine. >> Not sure if that helps apart from seemingly being a fix for a >> previously working install using Moodle authentication that had >> become broken but works again after removing and re-adding the >> integration_path. I guess somewhere these steps are killing the >> conflicting session or cache but not sure what's causing the conflict >> in the first place and clearly that's what we need to identify. >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 10 April 2015 12:06 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. >> >> Hi all >> I'm posting here but have also posted to the issue reported by Brad I >> think at >> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/222 >> >> I've been testing some stuff on a localhost xampp installation on and >> off over the last few days and again this morning. This is recent >> develop code but not the very latest. I'm not sure what caused this >> but now when I try to edit an existing or new LO and browser for >> media I get the following error: >> >> Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. >> >> This happens regardless of account, browser, project etc and I've >> completely shut down xampp, cleared session files and re-started but >> still the same problem. I remember having similar problems in a much >> earlier test version on the Techdis server where there was more than >> one install and liaising with Tom but never resolving it then and in >> this local xampp instance there's only a singe XOT install. It also >> inside a Moodle directory like the Techdis server was but has been >> working fine until this problem arose this morning and now even with >> auth_config set to guest or static effectively the install is broken >> because it's not possible to browse for media. In this case I can >> potentially just scrap and replace the install but I seem to recall >> when I tried that on the Techdis server previously it didn't resolve >> the problem and I'm worried about this happening on live >> installations. There are plenty using Moodle authentication. >> >> Any additional ideas re cause/solution? >> >> This happens when the pop-up opens: >> http://localhost/moodle/xerte/editor/elfinder/browse.php?type=media&lang=en >> >> And the FF console shows 2 repeat errors: >> Line 1339 toolbox.js >> console.log('Browse file: ' + id + ': ' + key + ', ' + name + ', ' >> + value); >> >> Cheers >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >> >> >> >> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >> >> message or in any attachment. 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Ah yes, custom.css has a padding-top 40px added that yours doesn't have... section { padding-top: 40px; margin-bottom: 20px; } custom.css around line 143 Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 13 April 2015 12:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] site/bootstrap section link differences? Hi all I'd not noticed this before but was asked about it so completed a few tests. On the technical demonstrator http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8222 when you click a section link on any of the pages e.g. 1. Click Audio on the first page. 2. The page jumps down to the heading of that section and the heading Audio aligns at the top of the page. [cid:image003.jpg at 01D075E3.39CEBB20] However I've tested existing examples and new tests e.g. 2.1 test http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_170 and develop test http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=5 and section links on these end up below the section heading e.g. 1. Click section 3 2. The section displays below the heading and you have to scroll up slightly to see/read the heading [cid:image004.jpg at 01D075E3.39CEBB20] Is this something that changed in the code or what's different between the Nottingham example and others? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Apr 13 15:26:55 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:26:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: site/bootstrap section link differences? In-Reply-To: <00a201d075ea$80734760$8159d620$@co.uk> References: <007701d075da$d949b0f0$8bdd12d0$@co.uk> , <00a201d075ea$80734760$8159d620$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Ron, Take the css from the Nottingham site and copy it straight into your test environment and then you can do a compare with a decent text editor... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 13 April 2015 14:05 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: site/bootstrap section link differences? Hi John thanks. I should have mentioned I had actually noticed that and tried changing that padding value but I'm guessing there are other differences because on first load of a page (before clicking a section link) I then get too much space. But I'll carry on testing. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 April 2015 12:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: site/bootstrap section link differences? Ah yes, custom.css has a padding-top 40px added that yours doesn't have... section { padding-top: 40px; margin-bottom: 20px; } custom.css around line 143 Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 13 April 2015 12:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] site/bootstrap section link differences? Hi all I'd not noticed this before but was asked about it so completed a few tests. On the technical demonstrator http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8222 when you click a section link on any of the pages e.g. 1. Click Audio on the first page. 2. The page jumps down to the heading of that section and the heading Audio aligns at the top of the page. [cid:image003.jpg at 01D075E3.39CEBB20] However I've tested existing examples and new tests e.g. 2.1 test http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_170 and develop test http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=5 and section links on these end up below the section heading e.g. 1. Click section 3 2. The section displays below the heading and you have to scroll up slightly to see/read the heading [cid:image004.jpg at 01D075E3.39CEBB20] Is this something that changed in the code or what's different between the Nottingham example and others? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From brsmith at akamai.com Mon Apr 13 18:29:45 2015 From: brsmith at akamai.com (Smith, Bradley) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:29:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Invalid backend response. Data is not JSON. In-Reply-To: <552BB805.40302@tor.nl> References: <006301d0737e$4544e180$cfcea480$@co.uk> <, > <007401d07382$101fb300$305f1900$@co.uk> <2984F265-3126-4C97-B7CE-60F13AB28DC4@akamai.com> <552BB805.40302@tor.nl> Message-ID: That seems to work perfectly. Thanks! ?Brad > On Apr 13, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > require_once(dirname(__FILE__).DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR."../../../config.php"); -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jo?o Raposo Sent: 12 April 2015 22:17 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Change of Feature - FullScreen Button Hello! I just developed a small solution to change the behavior of the FullScreen Button in the HTML5 editor/player. I updated the code to when the fullscreen button is clicked, the player is displayed in fullscreen mode using the browser fullscreen api. The changes were made in the xenith.js If you consider this a good development I will gladly share the code here. Best Regards, Jo?o Sim?es Raposo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We need to see if a consensus forms around whether this is > good idea or not: I think it might be better to have the options to > default; fill screen (ie max the browser to the screen size) and > chromeless full screen on the button so you can toggle through all > three; however, on tablets you get chromeless full screen anyway. > Ultimately this should be an end-user choice (on a desktop PC I > personally do not like chromeless full screen, but that?s a personal > thing) > > What do others think? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Jo?o > Raposo > *Sent:* 12 April 2015 22:17 > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Change of Feature - FullScreen Button > > Hello! > > I just developed a small solution to change the behavior of the > FullScreen Button in the HTML5 editor/player. > > I updated the code to when the fullscreen button is clicked, the > player is displayed in fullscreen mode using the browser fullscreen api. > > The changes were made in the xenith.js > > If you consider this a good development I will gladly share the code here. > > Best Regards, > > > Jo?o Sim?es Raposo > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 20 11:14:41 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 11:14:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Wolfram Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E1813CBD4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Don't know if you know much about this: http://www.wolfram.com/broadcast/video.php?c=88&v=476, interesting. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Apr 20 12:10:08 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:10:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Change of Feature - FullScreen Button In-Reply-To: <5534BF00.9090405@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E1813CAC3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5534BF00.9090405@tor.nl> Message-ID: <009601d07b5a$912d90e0$b388b2a0$@co.uk> I agree I think the current 'fill window' option has a slightly different purpose/use than viewing full screen and hiding all browser elements. In terms of tapping into browser api I've often wondered if we should have a +/- button to control zoom level as zooming works better when using Xerte to present an LO f2f or via a webinar compared with just using the fill window button e.g. zooms all content and maintains layout. In other words a 'zoom to fill window' option rather than or as well as a 'reflow to fill window' option. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 20 April 2015 09:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Change of Feature - FullScreen Button My preference would be to make this an end-user option. So ADD this option in stead of implementing it as a replacement of the current full screen. Julian Tenney schreef op 20-4-2015 om 10:48: Hi, Thanks. We need to see if a consensus forms around whether this is good idea or not: I think it might be better to have the options to default; fill screen (ie max the browser to the screen size) and chromeless full screen on the button so you can toggle through all three; however, on tablets you get chromeless full screen anyway. Ultimately this should be an end-user choice (on a desktop PC I personally do not like chromeless full screen, but that?s a personal thing) What do others think? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jo?o Raposo Sent: 12 April 2015 22:17 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Change of Feature - FullScreen Button Hello! I just developed a small solution to change the behavior of the FullScreen Button in the HTML5 editor/player. I updated the code to when the fullscreen button is clicked, the player is displayed in fullscreen mode using the browser fullscreen api. The changes were made in the xenith.js If you consider this a good development I will gladly share the code here. Best Regards, Jo?o Sim?es Raposo This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 21 10:18:29 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:18:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Change of Feature - FullScreen Button In-Reply-To: <009601d07b5a$912d90e0$b388b2a0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E1813CAC3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5534BF00.9090405@tor.nl> <009601d07b5a$912d90e0$b388b2a0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E1813D074@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Just for completeness, we talked this over when we met yesterday, and agreed it would be worth looking at the display options - but after we get this release work done. There's enough to do at the moment and we can't add any ore if we are going to get the release done for end of May. We will put it on the list of things to look at after that. If you (or anyone else) is interested in testing the new code, we'd really appreciate your help during May, Julian From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 April 2015 12:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Change of Feature - FullScreen Button I agree I think the current 'fill window' option has a slightly different purpose/use than viewing full screen and hiding all browser elements. In terms of tapping into browser api I've often wondered if we should have a +/- button to control zoom level as zooming works better when using Xerte to present an LO f2f or via a webinar compared with just using the fill window button e.g. zooms all content and maintains layout. In other words a 'zoom to fill window' option rather than or as well as a 'reflow to fill window' option. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 20 April 2015 09:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Change of Feature - FullScreen Button My preference would be to make this an end-user option. So ADD this option in stead of implementing it as a replacement of the current full screen. Julian Tenney schreef op 20-4-2015 om 10:48: Hi, Thanks. We need to see if a consensus forms around whether this is good idea or not: I think it might be better to have the options to default; fill screen (ie max the browser to the screen size) and chromeless full screen on the button so you can toggle through all three; however, on tablets you get chromeless full screen anyway. Ultimately this should be an end-user choice (on a desktop PC I personally do not like chromeless full screen, but that's a personal thing) What do others think? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jo?o Raposo Sent: 12 April 2015 22:17 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Change of Feature - FullScreen Button Hello! I just developed a small solution to change the behavior of the FullScreen Button in the HTML5 editor/player. I updated the code to when the fullscreen button is clicked, the player is displayed in fullscreen mode using the browser fullscreen api. The changes were made in the xenith.js If you consider this a good development I will gladly share the code here. Best Regards, Jo?o Sim?es Raposo This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Apr 22 11:46:09 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:46:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text In-Reply-To: <001c01d07ce2$50333250$f09996f0$@toll-net.be> References: <001c01d07ce2$50333250$f09996f0$@toll-net.be> Message-ID: Hi Katrien, Do you mean that if the page scrolls then the matched texts no longer stick to the boxes that they are supposed to? That was a problem that I saw a while ago and thought that I had committed but can't find it now so i'll look out the file from our server and get it committed. If it isn't that issue though then can you send a screenshot please that shows the problem in action? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Katrien Bernaerts [katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be] Sent: 22 April 2015 10:54 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] problem with Interactivy matched text Hi all, At the page type "matched text" you can add up to five options, no more, and the options begin only a little further downwards, leaving precious place is lost. This is so preprogrammed. After I added the five answer options and make the exercise as a student, I see that each does not want the final answer 'stick' in the corresponding box, it automatically moves upwards. You get it just never, how often and how exactly you try, because that is often the criticism of some. It will never happen, not once. At checking the answers you'll get a green check so the system calculates your meager attempt good. This comment comes from several of our users in the current and the new editor. Katrien ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net Mobiel: +32 496 523058 Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen) e-mail: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be website: http://www.toll-net.be skype: katrienb twitter: kbernaerts linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 ________________________________ avast! Antivirus: Uitgaande bericht is niet besmet. Virus Gegevensbestand (VPS): 150421-1, 21/04/2015 Getest op: 22/04/2015 11:54:24 avast! - auteursrecht (c) 1988-2015 AVAST Software. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Apr 22 12:05:24 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 12:05:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text In-Reply-To: References: <001c01d07ce2$50333250$f09996f0$@toll-net.be>, Message-ID: Hi Katrien, In fact I did commit it back in February. If it is the textMatch page that you are having problems with then try downloading the latest page model at https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/develop/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models_html5/textMatch.html You need to save this to /modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models_html5/textMatch.html on your server. You should probably backup this file at the very minimum and note that while it should be fine, changing this model page on it's own 'could' potentially introduce other bugs if there are dependencies on other xerte files... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 22 April 2015 11:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text Hi Katrien, Do you mean that if the page scrolls then the matched texts no longer stick to the boxes that they are supposed to? That was a problem that I saw a while ago and thought that I had committed but can't find it now so i'll look out the file from our server and get it committed. If it isn't that issue though then can you send a screenshot please that shows the problem in action? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Katrien Bernaerts [katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be] Sent: 22 April 2015 10:54 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] problem with Interactivy matched text Hi all, At the page type "matched text" you can add up to five options, no more, and the options begin only a little further downwards, leaving precious place is lost. This is so preprogrammed. After I added the five answer options and make the exercise as a student, I see that each does not want the final answer 'stick' in the corresponding box, it automatically moves upwards. You get it just never, how often and how exactly you try, because that is often the criticism of some. It will never happen, not once. At checking the answers you'll get a green check so the system calculates your meager attempt good. This comment comes from several of our users in the current and the new editor. Katrien ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net Mobiel: +32 496 523058 Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen) e-mail: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be website: http://www.toll-net.be skype: katrienb twitter: kbernaerts linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 ________________________________ avast! Antivirus: Uitgaande bericht is niet besmet. Virus Gegevensbestand (VPS): 150421-1, 21/04/2015 Getest op: 22/04/2015 11:54:24 avast! - auteursrecht (c) 1988-2015 AVAST Software. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be Wed Apr 22 13:01:51 2015 From: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be (Katrien Bernaerts) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 14:01:51 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text Message-ID: <003701d07cf4$1e3db790$5ab926b0$@toll-net.be> Hi John, You can see the problem on page 7 of this learning object in Dutch. http://194.7.157.205/moodle/xertetoolkits/nieuw/play.php?template_id=100 This example is made in the betaversion with the new theme. Katrien ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net Mobiel: +32 496 523058 Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen) e-mail: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be?? website: http://www.toll-net.be skype: katrienb??????????????????????????????????????????????? twitter: kbernaerts linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 --- avast! Antivirus: Uitgaande bericht is onbesmet. Virus Gegevensbestand (VPS): 150421-1, 21/04/2015 Getest op: 22/04/2015 14:01:51 avast! - auteursrecht (c) 1988-2015 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Apr 23 11:56:08 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:56:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text In-Reply-To: <003701d07cf4$1e3db790$5ab926b0$@toll-net.be> References: <003701d07cf4$1e3db790$5ab926b0$@toll-net.be> Message-ID: <00b501d07db4$1bbb2820$53317860$@co.uk> Hi Katrien if you change the theme to the default or to one of the others does the problem still exist? I can't think why but I guess it's possible something in the chosen theme is causing this so please check and confirm. Thanks Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Katrien Bernaerts Sent: 22 April 2015 13:02 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text Hi John, You can see the problem on page 7 of this learning object in Dutch. http://194.7.157.205/moodle/xertetoolkits/nieuw/play.php?template_id=100 This example is made in the betaversion with the new theme. 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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Apr 23 13:08:07 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:08:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text In-Reply-To: <00b501d07db4$1bbb2820$53317860$@co.uk> References: <003701d07cf4$1e3db790$5ab926b0$@toll-net.be> <00b501d07db4$1bbb2820$53317860$@co.uk> Message-ID: <00d001d07dbe$2a2c29e0$7e847da0$@co.uk> Have tested this now and confirmed it's not due to the chosen theme. It seems the height of the rows is determined by the greatest height of the part 1 or part 2 sentences. e.g. if any of your sentences have multiple lines of text or contain images which make the height larger than a single line of text then all the target heights increase to accommodate the height of the largest box. I guess all the targets/rows need to be the same height otherwise it would be easy to see what goes where just by the different heights of each target. In the example Katrien has provided it looks like there are unecessary

tags increasing the height of the largest box and also in the instruction there's

tags and an image causing the draggable labels to begin lower down the page than would be the case with just a single line instruction. I wonder whether the collapsible instruction feature Fay has implemented in the media lesson page type might be an addition to improve this? HTH Ron From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 23 13:35:19 2015 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:35:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text In-Reply-To: <00d001d07dbe$2a2c29e0$7e847da0$@co.uk> References: <003701d07cf4$1e3db790$5ab926b0$@toll-net.be> <00b501d07db4$1bbb2820$53317860$@co.uk> <00d001d07dbe$2a2c29e0$7e847da0$@co.uk> Message-ID: The

tags is something that I wanted to look at before the new release. It's the new editor that's putting them in, which fine, but I've noticed other pages too where having them there messes up the layout (even when there aren't unnecessary ones). I was thinking of adding some css which would do something like remove the top-margin from the first and bottom-margin from the last

tags in each section. In Katrien's example there are loads of unnecessary
&

tags on the labels though - are these because of the new editor? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 April 2015 13:08 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text Have tested this now and confirmed it's not due to the chosen theme. It seems the height of the rows is determined by the greatest height of the part 1 or part 2 sentences. e.g. if any of your sentences have multiple lines of text or contain images which make the height larger than a single line of text then all the target heights increase to accommodate the height of the largest box. I guess all the targets/rows need to be the same height otherwise it would be easy to see what goes where just by the different heights of each target. In the example Katrien has provided it looks like there are unecessary

tags increasing the height of the largest box and also in the instruction there's

tags and an image causing the draggable labels to begin lower down the page than would be the case with just a single line instruction. I wonder whether the collapsible instruction feature Fay has implemented in the media lesson page type might be an addition to improve this? HTH Ron _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be Thu Apr 23 22:42:07 2015 From: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be (katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 21:42:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1429825336372.79602@toll-net.be> Hi Ron, It 's the same with the other themes and default theme. The problem is also in the older version it's not only a problem with the new editor... Katrien From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Apr 24 11:28:36 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 11:28:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text In-Reply-To: References: <003701d07cf4$1e3db790$5ab926b0$@toll-net.be> <00b501d07db4$1bbb2820$53317860$@co.uk> <00d001d07dbe$2a2c29e0$7e847da0$@co.uk>, Message-ID: Hi, I'm not sure that its the inclusion of the

and

tags that Katrien is concerned about... I was more interpreting it as the fact that you can't drag the boxes down to the lower dropzones because when the page scrolls the dragged box doesn't and so you end up wit the dragged box and the cursor separating, making it very hard to know where you are dropping... I think that this is a problem with the jquery UI library though and it looks like we are using an up to date version yet the bug still seems to persist. Are either you Fay or Ron able to reproduce this or am I the only one seeing it? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross [Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 23 April 2015 13:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text The

tags is something that I wanted to look at before the new release. It's the new editor that's putting them in, which fine, but I've noticed other pages too where having them there messes up the layout (even when there aren't unnecessary ones). I was thinking of adding some css which would do something like remove the top-margin from the first and bottom-margin from the last

tags in each section. In Katrien's example there are loads of unnecessary
&

tags on the labels though - are these because of the new editor? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 April 2015 13:08 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text Have tested this now and confirmed it's not due to the chosen theme. It seems the height of the rows is determined by the greatest height of the part 1 or part 2 sentences. e.g. if any of your sentences have multiple lines of text or contain images which make the height larger than a single line of text then all the target heights increase to accommodate the height of the largest box. I guess all the targets/rows need to be the same height otherwise it would be easy to see what goes where just by the different heights of each target. In the example Katrien has provided it looks like there are unecessary

tags increasing the height of the largest box and also in the instruction there's

tags and an image causing the draggable labels to begin lower down the page than would be the case with just a single line instruction. I wonder whether the collapsible instruction feature Fay has implemented in the media lesson page type might be an addition to improve this? HTH Ron _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Apr 24 12:51:09 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 12:51:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text In-Reply-To: References: <003701d07cf4$1e3db790$5ab926b0$@toll-net.be> <00b501d07db4$1bbb2820$53317860$@co.uk> <00d001d07dbe$2a2c29e0$7e847da0$@co.uk>, Message-ID: <005701d07e84$f5b66aa0$e1233fe0$@co.uk> Hi John yes I can reproduce that but obviously it's greatly exaggerated when all the drop zones exceed the default height of the LO so require the scrolling. If there isn't a fix to enable the draggable items to continue scrolling with the mouse pointer I wonder whether a change of wording for the tooltips might help e.g. if you start dragging and then continue scrolling even when the draggable item stops it still works if you then click the desired drop zone. The tooltip wording currently says drop zone for 'target name' I wonder if it simply said 'drop here' whether that might help. Not perfect I know but at the moment the only alternative seems to be keeping the item heights as low as possible so that all targets appear without the need for scrolling. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 24 April 2015 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text Hi, I'm not sure that its the inclusion of the

and

tags that Katrien is concerned about... I was more interpreting it as the fact that you can't drag the boxes down to the lower dropzones because when the page scrolls the dragged box doesn't and so you end up wit the dragged box and the cursor separating, making it very hard to know where you are dropping... I think that this is a problem with the jquery UI library though and it looks like we are using an up to date version yet the bug still seems to persist. Are either you Fay or Ron able to reproduce this or am I the only one seeing it? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross [Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 23 April 2015 13:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text The

tags is something that I wanted to look at before the new release. It's the new editor that's putting them in, which fine, but I've noticed other pages too where having them there messes up the layout (even when there aren't unnecessary ones). I was thinking of adding some css which would do something like remove the top-margin from the first and bottom-margin from the last

tags in each section. In Katrien's example there are loads of unnecessary
&

tags on the labels though - are these because of the new editor? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 April 2015 13:08 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text Have tested this now and confirmed it's not due to the chosen theme. It seems the height of the rows is determined by the greatest height of the part 1 or part 2 sentences. e.g. if any of your sentences have multiple lines of text or contain images which make the height larger than a single line of text then all the target heights increase to accommodate the height of the largest box. I guess all the targets/rows need to be the same height otherwise it would be easy to see what goes where just by the different heights of each target. In the example Katrien has provided it looks like there are unecessary

tags increasing the height of the largest box and also in the instruction there's

tags and an image causing the draggable labels to begin lower down the page than would be the case with just a single line instruction. I wonder whether the collapsible instruction feature Fay has implemented in the media lesson page type might be an addition to improve this? HTH Ron _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Apr 24 14:25:58 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 14:25:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text In-Reply-To: <005701d07e84$f5b66aa0$e1233fe0$@co.uk> References: <003701d07cf4$1e3db790$5ab926b0$@toll-net.be> <00b501d07db4$1bbb2820$53317860$@co.uk> <00d001d07dbe$2a2c29e0$7e847da0$@co.uk>, , <005701d07e84$f5b66aa0$e1233fe0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Ron, Yes a message might be the only way to really tackle the issue at present which is unfortunate. There are several whitespace issues but they aren't all related to the new editor and it's going to be very hard if not impossible to deal with them all in a general way... a lot of it has to do with the fact that line breaks that worked in Flash need to be changed into
for html rendering, this breaks script and style blocks in text boxes which span more than one line and also means blocks that span several lines end up intespersed with
which all get rendered after the
tag resulting is massive whitespace.... again, these can often be worked around but ends up making the LO hard to read within the editor... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 24 April 2015 12:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text Hi John yes I can reproduce that but obviously it's greatly exaggerated when all the drop zones exceed the default height of the LO so require the scrolling. If there isn't a fix to enable the draggable items to continue scrolling with the mouse pointer I wonder whether a change of wording for the tooltips might help e.g. if you start dragging and then continue scrolling even when the draggable item stops it still works if you then click the desired drop zone. The tooltip wording currently says drop zone for 'target name' I wonder if it simply said 'drop here' whether that might help. Not perfect I know but at the moment the only alternative seems to be keeping the item heights as low as possible so that all targets appear without the need for scrolling. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 24 April 2015 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text Hi, I'm not sure that its the inclusion of the

and

tags that Katrien is concerned about... I was more interpreting it as the fact that you can't drag the boxes down to the lower dropzones because when the page scrolls the dragged box doesn't and so you end up wit the dragged box and the cursor separating, making it very hard to know where you are dropping... I think that this is a problem with the jquery UI library though and it looks like we are using an up to date version yet the bug still seems to persist. Are either you Fay or Ron able to reproduce this or am I the only one seeing it? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross [Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 23 April 2015 13:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text The

tags is something that I wanted to look at before the new release. It's the new editor that's putting them in, which fine, but I've noticed other pages too where having them there messes up the layout (even when there aren't unnecessary ones). I was thinking of adding some css which would do something like remove the top-margin from the first and bottom-margin from the last

tags in each section. In Katrien's example there are loads of unnecessary
&

tags on the labels though - are these because of the new editor? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 April 2015 13:08 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text Have tested this now and confirmed it's not due to the chosen theme. It seems the height of the rows is determined by the greatest height of the part 1 or part 2 sentences. e.g. if any of your sentences have multiple lines of text or contain images which make the height larger than a single line of text then all the target heights increase to accommodate the height of the largest box. I guess all the targets/rows need to be the same height otherwise it would be easy to see what goes where just by the different heights of each target. In the example Katrien has provided it looks like there are unecessary

tags increasing the height of the largest box and also in the instruction there's

tags and an image causing the draggable labels to begin lower down the page than would be the case with just a single line instruction. I wonder whether the collapsible instruction feature Fay has implemented in the media lesson page type might be an addition to improve this? HTH Ron _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From brsmith at akamai.com Tue Apr 28 23:01:56 2015 From: brsmith at akamai.com (Smith, Bradley) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 22:01:56 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT (not) auto-saving? Message-ID: I just filed an issue in git, but it seems like a big deal and yet I haven?t noticed others talking about it, so I thought I?d signal boost here to see what others have to say: https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/234 Short version: in the current develop version of XOT, the editor doesn?t auto-save when you switch between pages in an LO, which can result in lots of data loss. At least, that?s what?s happening for me. :( ?Brad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4291 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Apr 29 09:11:38 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 09:11:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT (not) auto-saving? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002a01d08254$1f1fdcf0$5d5f96d0$@co.uk> I was doing some testing yesterday and updated to the latest develop before doing so as well as a clean install with the latest code. I noticed this too but I'm in the habit of regularly clicking publish so I'm not sure if it's been the case for a while or due to a recent change. Will do some further testing - wonder if it's different with different browsers? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley Sent: 28 April 2015 23:02 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT (not) auto-saving? I just filed an issue in git, but it seems like a big deal and yet I haven?t noticed others talking about it, so I thought I?d signal boost here to see what others have to say: https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/234 Short version: in the current develop version of XOT, the editor doesn?t auto-save when you switch between pages in an LO, which can result in lots of data loss. At least, that?s what?s happening for me. :( ?Brad This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 29 09:19:32 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 09:19:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT (not) auto-saving? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0E18874590@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Thanks. Assign it to Tom please. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley Sent: 28 April 2015 23:02 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT (not) auto-saving? I just filed an issue in git, but it seems like a big deal and yet I haven?t noticed others talking about it, so I thought I?d signal boost here to see what others have to say: https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/234 Short version: in the current develop version of XOT, the editor doesn?t auto-save when you switch between pages in an LO, which can result in lots of data loss. At least, that?s what?s happening for me. :( ?Brad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Apr 29 10:04:12 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:04:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT (not) auto-saving? In-Reply-To: <002a01d08254$1f1fdcf0$5d5f96d0$@co.uk> References: <002a01d08254$1f1fdcf0$5d5f96d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <004d01d0825b$76dd6500$64982f00$@co.uk> I did some further testing with different browsers and different code revisions and this does seem to be a problem but also a bit intermittant. The other issue that I've noticed for a while (perhaps related somehow?) when using IE10 (but not other browsers) is that after a few edits (not a consistant number) clicking in a text field no longer works and I have to close the editor window and the re-open to make further changes. As I toggle between text fields the IE console shows setting sub attribute and no errors yet the text isn't editable until closing and re-opening the editor. Will add this to github as a separate issue. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 April 2015 09:12 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT (not) auto-saving? I was doing some testing yesterday and updated to the latest develop before doing so as well as a clean install with the latest code. I noticed this too but I'm in the habit of regularly clicking publish so I'm not sure if it's been the case for a while or due to a recent change. Will do some further testing - wonder if it's different with different browsers? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley Sent: 28 April 2015 23:02 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT (not) auto-saving? I just filed an issue in git, but it seems like a big deal and yet I haven?t noticed others talking about it, so I thought I?d signal boost here to see what others have to say: https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/234 Short version: in the current develop version of XOT, the editor doesn?t auto-save when you switch between pages in an LO, which can result in lots of data loss. At least, that?s what?s happening for me. :( ?Brad This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Apr 29 11:18:33 2015 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:18:33 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT (not) auto-saving? In-Reply-To: <004d01d0825b$76dd6500$64982f00$@co.uk> References: <002a01d08254$1f1fdcf0$5d5f96d0$@co.uk> <004d01d0825b$76dd6500$64982f00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <5540AFF9.8080509@tor.nl> I'll test again then. It worked for me. I don't like intermittent issues..... Ron Mitchell schreef op 29-4-2015 om 11:04: > > I did some further testing with different browsers and different code > revisions and this does seem to be a problem but also a bit intermittant. > > The other issue that I've noticed for a while (perhaps related > somehow?) when using IE10 (but not other browsers) is that after a few > edits (not a consistant number) clicking in a text field no longer > works and I have to close the editor window and the re-open to make > further changes. As I toggle between text fields the IE console shows > setting sub attribute and no errors yet the text isn't editable until > closing and re-opening the editor. > > Will add this to github as a separate issue. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 April 2015 09:12 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT (not) auto-saving? > > I was doing some testing yesterday and updated to the latest develop > before doing so as well as a clean install with the latest code. I > noticed this too but I'm in the habit of regularly clicking publish so > I'm not sure if it's been the case for a while or due to a recent > change. Will do some further testing - wonder if it's different with > different browsers? > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Smith, Bradley > *Sent:* 28 April 2015 23:02 > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] XOT (not) auto-saving? > > I just filed an issue in git, but it seems like a big deal and yet I > haven?t noticed others talking about it, so I thought I?d signal boost > here to see what others have to say: > > https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/234 > > Short version: in the current develop version of XOT, the editor > doesn?t auto-save when you switch between pages in an LO, which can > result in lots of data loss. At least, that?s what?s happening for me. :( > > ?Brad > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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