[Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
Pat L (pgogy)
xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
Thu Jun 26 14:45:18 BST 2014
It could be a PHP change - there was some server stuff changed recently?
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:
> I've certainly never been able to reproduce the session id consistently
> either. I have seen it though but afaik its only been after a genuine
> timeout or when that unload line made its way to my machine...
>
> I think these things are related to your server which is why i'm wondering
> if anything has changed recently? update to Windows/Linux, PHP etc?
>
> Regards,
>
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 26 June 2014 14:01
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> Maybe. Lunch 11.45 for 12.00?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 26 June 2014 14:01
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> Perhaps there will be time and opportunity to have a quick look tomorrow
> when we're on-site...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 26 June 2014 13:38
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> I thought it had gone away as well, but not this morning.
>
> I'm not having a dig by the way.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 26 June 2014 13:35
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> also re >"The session ID thing has been going along for ages now..."<
>
> This is anecdotal but as far as I'm aware we weren't able to replicate the
> session ID problem you were getting (I think with with Firefox) but
> certainly did get session ID issues with that
> onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()" line added. With that removed I'm not
> aware of any session ID issues and would hear about it if there were.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 26 June 2014 13:25
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> Do you still have that onunload line in your index.php file?
>
> e.g. from previous thread
>
> Currently in 2.1 branch:
> <body onload="javascript:sort_display_settings()" onselectstart="return
> false;" onscroll="body_scroll()" onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()">
>
> removing onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()" stops the problem with IE 10.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 26 June 2014 12:47
> To: Smith, John; For Xerte technical developers; xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> OK, I went over and had a look.
>
> In Chrome everything worked fine.
>
> In IE I very quickly hit major 'session ID not set' problems. We really
> need to resolve this one way or another, even if we use the new editor as
> the way to do it.
>
> In IE, clicking create would lead to nothing... for a few seconds... and
> then the popup up would open with the session ID not set error. I got this
> error from the page:
>
> Message: Invalid argument.
> Line: 1179
> Char: 6
> Code: 0
> URI:
> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/website_code/scripts/template_management.js
>
> I think eventually I did manage to create a LO in the workspace, but not
> without refreshing several times until it appeared, and never from the
> create button directly.
>
> So maybe this has something to do with the other user problem, maybe not.
> I don't really know.
>
> It might be worth me getting one of you guys who knows the PHP stuff
> associate access to our network and see if you can reproduce it? The
> session ID thing has been going along for ages now, and I don't feel any
> closer to a resolution, and frankly, I don't really understand enough
> myself to try and fix it.
>
> J
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 26 June 2014 11:25
> To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> Create a new LO and if when edit opens it is blank then right click on the
> header and reload/refresh
>
> If it then loads ok then the id is right but something is most likely
> delaying the copy of data.xml from template folder to USER-FILES folder.
>
> The copy routine has debug messages in there so you could check them and
> see if any that are in edit are in an unusual order when you get a problem
> which might or might not indicate a threading issue depending on whether it
> is the php execution or the file system operations that are being delayed...
>
> John
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>
> Date: 26/06/2014 10:15 (GMT+00:00)
> To: For Xerte technical developers <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
>
> Should as in
>
> The PHP script has called the functions which do it It then inserts into
> the database and returns the ID given
>
> So unless the PHP is delayed, or threads, then can't see why.
>
> It might be the ID isn't right?
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Julian Tenney <
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
> wrote:
> By the time the id returns, data.xml and media/ should be copied
>
> 'Should' as in will have been or 'should' as in might have been?
>
> I'm going to go and have a look later and see if I can figure out what's
> going on,
>
> J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 25 June 2014 17:12
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> I think what Pat is saying confirms that it can only be synchronous.
>
> You click new and give it a name
>
> An ajax call is made to new_template
>
> When it returns with an id then that id is used to instruct the editor
> which LO to open.
>
> By the time the id returns, data.xml and media/ should be copied. Edit
> looks to see if there is a preview.xml and if not then it copies data.xml
> to preview.xml and then loads preview.xml
>
> Regards
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>
>
>
> Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>
> No, no weird templates, it’s Nottingham for sure.
>
> I’m sure what you say answers my question ‘is it synchronous or not?’ But
> I don’t know whether it means ‘yes’ or ‘no’.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
> Sent: 25 June 2014 16:47
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> new template.php ends in a ajax call to the editor, so it's not one block
> of PHP but one process. New template ends, echoes out a template id, which
> the ajax gets, and then fires off the editor.
>
> If the editor isn't working, I am suspecting it might be the template is
> weird? Is it definitely Nottingham? Not one of the old mediainteraction
> ones or something?
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Julian Tenney <
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> ><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
> Data.xml is being created, but what seems to fail is the editor opening.
> Media folder is being created too.
>
> So it's the process of opening the editor that creates preview.xml?
>
> Come to think about it, I had issues myself in the same building on
> Monday. I just refreshed the workspace and I was in business, didn't really
> think about it.
>
> I found another user with the same problem: returning to the workspace
> later, his projects are all there and editable now.
>
> Some sort of timing issue? The editor opening and data.xml hasn't been
> created yet, so nothing to copy?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
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> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 25 June 2014 16:09
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> Popup blocker doesn't usually stop preview.xml being copied, or at least
> it's never affected me like that before... plus wouldn't the popup blocker
> work for others too?
>
> Edit checks for the existence of preview.xml and either opens it or copies
> the blank
>
>
> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/f5ad19b03ed2c76ac29cbcd0ec5199360dc61d6a/modules/xerte/edit.php#L47
>
> There are a few checks beforehand though that could error out (like
> below). Check the response in Google Chrome to see if any errors are being
> sent back i suppose:
>
> if(empty($row_username)) {
> die("Invalid user id ?");
> }
>
> and
>
> if(!file_exists($preview) && file_exists($data)){
> copy($data, $preview);
> chmod($preview, 0777);
> }
>
> So it looks like data.xml needs to be there which comes from the
> Nottingham template. Is data.xml being created in the folder? And a media
> folder to hold the multimedia?
>
> If not then it looks like this is failing
>
>
> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/f5ad19b03ed2c76ac29cbcd0ec5199360dc61d6a/modules/site/new_template.php#L76
>
> It puts some debug messages into the logs so you might like to check there
> to see if anything shows up...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
>
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> ________________________________________
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> Sent: 25 June 2014 15:51
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> No, preview is not created. I think this is maybe to do with popup
> blocker, so edit never opens.
>
> What order do things happen in when a project is created?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:
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> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 25 June 2014 15:47
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> If the user creates a new LO and edit opens then do you see the blank,
> default preview.xml being copied into in the newly created USER-FILES
> folder?
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
>
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> one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will
> ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible.
> ________________________________________
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> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
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> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [
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> ><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
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> Sent: 25 June 2014 14:27
> To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:
> xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> >>)
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> We have only one of these usernames, dating from 2006, so predates
> toolkits, and not a duplicate.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tenney Julian
> Sent: 25 June 2014 12:38
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> No, that looks right. At least the folder has the correct user name in it.
>
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> Sent: 25 June 2014 12:04
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> I'll check that. I didn't notice anything obvious though...
>
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> Sent: 25 June 2014 12:00
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
>
> My hunch would be a username issue - check username matches the folders
> being created including case sensitivity?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 25 Jun 2014, at 11:00, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Why only for one user?
> >
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> > Behalf Of David Goodwin
> > Sent: 25 June 2014 11:00
> > To: For Xerte technical developers
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview.xml not created
> >
> > I have a feeling XOT may be mixing up it's saving of preview.xml and
> > data.xml - in that it saves data.xml when it should save preview.xml
> > etc
> >
> > David.
> >
> >> On 25/06/14 10:58, Julian Tenney wrote:
> >> Got a user here who logs in, tries to create a LO, but preview .xml
> >> isn't being created: consequently the editor has no LO icon in it
> >> when it loads up. Other users on same computer work fine. Any idea
> >> what's going on?
> >>
> >> cid:image004.jpg at 01CF905F.BC2E7D90
> >>
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