From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jan 6 13:48:21 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:48:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Upgrade Guide Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026819@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> A Happy New Year one and all! We're going to upgrade our install to 2.1 (from 2.0) tomorrow and I was just looking for Ron's upgrade guide for the list of files to keep / not overwrite etc. Does anyone know where it is? Are there any gotchas anyone has come across with upgrading? Cheers, Julian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Monday, 6 January 2014 at 13:48, Julian Tenney wrote: > A Happy New Year one and all! > > We?re going to upgrade our install to 2.1 (from 2.0) tomorrow and I was just looking for Ron?s upgrade guide for the list of files to keep / not overwrite etc. Does anyone know where it is? Are there any gotchas anyone has come across with upgrading? > > Cheers, > > Julian > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Cheers, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Monday, 6 January 2014 at 13:48, Julian Tenney wrote: A Happy New Year one and all! We?re going to upgrade our install to 2.1 (from 2.0) tomorrow and I was just looking for Ron?s upgrade guide for the list of files to keep / not overwrite etc. Does anyone know where it is? Are there any gotchas anyone has come across with upgrading? Cheers, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 113008 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jan 7 10:03:01 2014 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 10:03:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026AD3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026AD3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: What template do they use? The Bootstrap one? You should be able to right click next to it and Inspect Element in Chrome and the icon should be named Icon_Page_TEMPLATENAME.gif The icon might be missing or its one of the older templates... It's here anyway... https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/e3e9cc68693725f97aa14be365dc6f35a08e27f0#diff-31e49d53a5d6a104d34be2f564795223L229 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:53 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Workspace Icons Hi guys, Just updated to 2.1, no problems at all, thanks. One thing: where is the code that decides which icon to display in the workspace? It needs an } else { //do default icon otherwise no icon shows up... 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The Bootstrap one? You should be able to right click next to it and Inspect Element in Chrome and the icon should be named Icon_Page_TEMPLATENAME.gif The icon might be missing or its one of the older templates... It's here anyway... https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/e3e9cc68693725f97aa14be365dc6f35a08e27f0#diff-31e49d53a5d6a104d34be2f564795223L229 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:53 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Workspace Icons Hi guys, Just updated to 2.1, no problems at all, thanks. One thing: where is the code that decides which icon to display in the workspace? It needs an } else { //do default icon otherwise no icon shows up... 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 113008 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jan 7 10:12:58 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 10:12:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026AD3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026B07@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Ah, it's done via css. I'm not sure how to do a default for that... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 07 January 2014 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons What template do they use? The Bootstrap one? You should be able to right click next to it and Inspect Element in Chrome and the icon should be named Icon_Page_TEMPLATENAME.gif The icon might be missing or its one of the older templates... It's here anyway... https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/e3e9cc68693725f97aa14be365dc6f35a08e27f0#diff-31e49d53a5d6a104d34be2f564795223L229 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:53 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Workspace Icons Hi guys, Just updated to 2.1, no problems at all, thanks. One thing: where is the code that decides which icon to display in the workspace? It needs an } else { //do default icon otherwise no icon shows up... 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learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->preview_size . "\" editor_size=\"" . $xerte_toolkits_site->learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->editor_size . "\" style=\"padding-left:" . ($level*10) . "px\" onmousedown=\"single_click(this);file_folder_click_pause(event)\" onmouseup=\"file_drag_stop(event,this)\">site_url}/website_code/images/Icon_Page_".strtolower($row['template_name']).".gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle;padding-right:5px\" />" . str_replace("_", " ", $row['project_name']) . "
"; to echo "
learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->preview_size . "\" editor_size=\"" . $xerte_toolkits_site->learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->editor_size . "\" style=\"padding-left:" . ($level*10) . "px\" onmousedown=\"single_click(this);file_folder_click_pause(event)\" onmouseup=\"file_drag_stop(event,this)\">site_url}/website_code/images/"; if (strtolower($row['template_name']) == "Nottingham" || strtolower($row['template_name']) = "site" etc etc) echo "Icon_Page_".strtolower($row['template_name']). ".gif"; else echo "Icon_Page_default.gif"; echo "\" style=\"vertical-align:middle;padding-right:5px\" />" . str_replace("_", " ", $row['project_name']) . "
"; Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:12 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons No, I think you have code that says If (nottingham){ //show nottingham icon } else if (bootstrap){ //show bootstrap icon } It needs a final else to catch templates that are not caught by the ifs: If (nottingham){ //show nottingham icon } else if (bootstrap){ //show bootstrap icon } else { //show default } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 07 January 2014 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons What template do they use? The Bootstrap one? You should be able to right click next to it and Inspect Element in Chrome and the icon should be named Icon_Page_TEMPLATENAME.gif The icon might be missing or its one of the older templates... It's here anyway... https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/e3e9cc68693725f97aa14be365dc6f35a08e27f0#diff-31e49d53a5d6a104d34be2f564795223L229 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:53 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Workspace Icons Hi guys, Just updated to 2.1, no problems at all, thanks. One thing: where is the code that decides which icon to display in the workspace? It needs an } else { //do default icon otherwise no icon shows up... [cid:image001.png at 01CF0B92.9EBC8740] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 113008 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jan 7 10:24:17 2014 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 10:24:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026B06@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026AD3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026B06@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Try changing line 229 from echo "
learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->preview_size . "\" editor_size=\"" . $xerte_toolkits_site->learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->editor_size . "\" style=\"padding-left:" . ($level*10) . "px\" onmousedown=\"single_click(this);file_folder_click_pause(event)\" onmouseup=\"file_drag_stop(event,this)\">site_url}/website_code/images/Icon_Page_".strtolower($row['template_name']).".gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle;padding-right:5px\" />" . str_replace("_", " ", $row['project_name']) . "
"; to echo "
learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->preview_size . "\" editor_size=\"" . $xerte_toolkits_site->learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->editor_size . "\" style=\"padding-left:" . ($level*10) . "px\" onmousedown=\"single_click(this);file_folder_click_pause(event)\" onmouseup=\"file_drag_stop(event,this)\">site_url}/website_code/images/"; if (strtolower($row['template_name']) == "Nottingham" || strtolower($row['template_name']) = "site" etc etc) echo "Icon_Page_".strtolower($row['template_name']). ".gif"; else echo "Icon_Page_default.gif"; echo "\" style=\"vertical-align:middle;padding-right:5px\" />" . str_replace("_", " ", $row['project_name']) . "
"; Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:12 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons No, I think you have code that says If (nottingham){ //show nottingham icon } else if (bootstrap){ //show bootstrap icon } It needs a final else to catch templates that are not caught by the ifs: If (nottingham){ //show nottingham icon } else if (bootstrap){ //show bootstrap icon } else { //show default } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 07 January 2014 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons What template do they use? The Bootstrap one? You should be able to right click next to it and Inspect Element in Chrome and the icon should be named Icon_Page_TEMPLATENAME.gif The icon might be missing or its one of the older templates... It's here anyway... https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/e3e9cc68693725f97aa14be365dc6f35a08e27f0#diff-31e49d53a5d6a104d34be2f564795223L229 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:53 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Workspace Icons Hi guys, Just updated to 2.1, no problems at all, thanks. One thing: where is the code that decides which icon to display in the workspace? It needs an } else { //do default icon otherwise no icon shows up... [cid:image001.png at 01CF0B92.9EBC8740] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 113008 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jan 7 11:00:22 2014 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy)) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 11:00:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026AD3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026B06@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: shouldn't it do if(file_exists(icon){ }else{ } On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Smith, John wrote: > Try changing line 229 from > > > > echo "
preview_size=\"" . > $xerte_toolkits_site->learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . > $row['template_name']}->preview_size . "\" editor_size=\"" . > $xerte_toolkits_site->learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . > $row['template_name']}->editor_size . "\" style=\"padding-left:" . > ($level*10) . "px\" > onmousedown=\"single_click(this);file_folder_click_pause(event)\" > onmouseup=\"file_drag_stop(event,this)\"> src=\"{$xerte_toolkits_site->site_url}/website_code/images/Icon_Page_".strtolower($row['template_name']).".gif\" > style=\"vertical-align:middle;padding-right:5px\" />" . str_replace("_", " > ", $row['project_name']) . "
"; > > > > to > > > > echo "
preview_size=\"" . > $xerte_toolkits_site->learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . > $row['template_name']}->preview_size . "\" editor_size=\"" . > $xerte_toolkits_site->learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . > $row['template_name']}->editor_size . "\" style=\"padding-left:" . > ($level*10) . "px\" > onmousedown=\"single_click(this);file_folder_click_pause(event)\" > onmouseup=\"file_drag_stop(event,this)\"> src=\"{$xerte_toolkits_site->site_url}/website_code/images/"; > > > > if (strtolower($row['template_name']) == ?Nottingham? || > strtolower($row['template_name']) = ?site? etc etc) > > echo "Icon_Page_".strtolower($row['template_name']). ".gif"; > > else > > echo "Icon_Page_default.gif"; > > > > echo "\" style=\"vertical-align:middle;padding-right:5px\" />" . > str_replace("_", " ", $row['project_name']) . "
"; > > > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:12 AM > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons > > > > No, I think you have code that says > > > > If (nottingham){ > > //show nottingham icon > > } else if (bootstrap){ > > //show bootstrap icon > > } > > > > It needs a final else to catch templates that are not caught by the ifs: > > > > If (nottingham){ > > //show nottingham icon > > } else if (bootstrap){ > > //show bootstrap icon > > } *else {* > > * //show default* > > *}* > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Smith, John > *Sent:* 07 January 2014 10:03 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons > > > > What template do they use? The Bootstrap one? You should be able to right > click next to it and Inspect Element in Chrome and the icon should be named > Icon_Page_TEMPLATENAME.gif > > > > The icon might be missing or its one of the older templates? > > > > It?s here anyway? > https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/e3e9cc68693725f97aa14be365dc6f35a08e27f0#diff-31e49d53a5d6a104d34be2f564795223L229 > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:53 AM > *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Workspace Icons > > > > Hi guys, > > > > Just updated to 2.1, no problems at all, thanks. > > > > One thing: where is the code that decides which icon to display in the > workspace? It needs an > > > > } else { //do default icon > > > > otherwise no icon shows up? > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the > Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career > Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland > partners. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the > Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career > Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland > partners. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 113008 bytes Desc: not available URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jan 7 11:22:39 2014 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 11:22:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026AD3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE7026B06@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yeah might make more sense... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:00 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons shouldn't it do if(file_exists(icon){ }else{ } On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Smith, John > wrote: Try changing line 229 from echo "
learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->preview_size . "\" editor_size=\"" . $xerte_toolkits_site->learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->editor_size . "\" style=\"padding-left:" . ($level*10) . "px\" onmousedown=\"single_click(this);file_folder_click_pause(event)\" onmouseup=\"file_drag_stop(event,this)\">site_url}/website_code/images/Icon_Page_".strtolower($row['template_name']).".gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle;padding-right:5px\" />" . str_replace("_", " ", $row['project_name']) . "
"; to echo "
learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->preview_size . "\" editor_size=\"" . $xerte_toolkits_site->learning_objects->{$row['template_framework'] . "_" . $row['template_name']}->editor_size . "\" style=\"padding-left:" . ($level*10) . "px\" onmousedown=\"single_click(this);file_folder_click_pause(event)\" onmouseup=\"file_drag_stop(event,this)\">site_url}/website_code/images/"; if (strtolower($row['template_name']) == "Nottingham" || strtolower($row['template_name']) = "site" etc etc) echo "Icon_Page_".strtolower($row['template_name']). ".gif"; else echo "Icon_Page_default.gif"; echo "\" style=\"vertical-align:middle;padding-right:5px\" />" . str_replace("_", " ", $row['project_name']) . "
"; Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:12 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons No, I think you have code that says If (nottingham){ //show nottingham icon } else if (bootstrap){ //show bootstrap icon } It needs a final else to catch templates that are not caught by the ifs: If (nottingham){ //show nottingham icon } else if (bootstrap){ //show bootstrap icon } else { //show default } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 07 January 2014 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Icons What template do they use? The Bootstrap one? You should be able to right click next to it and Inspect Element in Chrome and the icon should be named Icon_Page_TEMPLATENAME.gif The icon might be missing or its one of the older templates... It's here anyway... https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/e3e9cc68693725f97aa14be365dc6f35a08e27f0#diff-31e49d53a5d6a104d34be2f564795223L229 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:53 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Workspace Icons Hi guys, Just updated to 2.1, no problems at all, thanks. One thing: where is the code that decides which icon to display in the workspace? It needs an } else { //do default icon otherwise no icon shows up... [cid:image001.png at 01CF0B9A.C64FA050] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 January 2014 15:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files I need the small ones for the translation... to build the localized 'big ones'. Also it is easier to maintain pages with the small ones (although that's probably personal...) Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 10-1-2014 16:34: Are we still making changes to the small .xwd files for building into a large .xwd file, or should we just commit to the large .xwd? We've added an optional 'sound' property to quiz questions, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 January 2014 16:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files Good :-) Julian Tenney schreef op 10-1-2014 16:55: S'ok found em From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 January 2014 15:54 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files Where are they?!? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 January 2014 15:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files I need the small ones for the translation... to build the localized 'big ones'. Also it is easier to maintain pages with the small ones (although that's probably personal...) Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 10-1-2014 16:34: Are we still making changes to the small .xwd files for building into a large .xwd file, or should we just commit to the large .xwd? We've added an optional 'sound' property to quiz questions, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 11:02 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files Is the current 'big' xwd in develop branch built from all the small ones already? I'm just thinking how best to get an updated 'big' .xwd so I can deploy it here. Should we change both big and small versions, or just the small version, and then build the big version? Or just change the small version and manually update our own big one? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 January 2014 16:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files Good :-) Julian Tenney schreef op 10-1-2014 16:55: S'ok found em From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 January 2014 15:54 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files Where are they?!? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 January 2014 15:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files I need the small ones for the translation... to build the localized 'big ones'. Also it is easier to maintain pages with the small ones (although that's probably personal...) Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 10-1-2014 16:34: Are we still making changes to the small .xwd files for building into a large .xwd file, or should we just commit to the large .xwd? We've added an optional 'sound' property to quiz questions, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Recycle Bin Bug Hi, Noticed this a few times, a bit disconcerting. If I empty my recycle bin, the workspace refreshes with someone else's learning objects in it. Can anyone reproduce this? J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jan 13 14:08:28 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:08:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816D816@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816D841@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I have a feeling it's related to the problem I also get when I log in and then 'cannot access this resource' when I try to edit. I log out and back in again, and it tends to sort it out. It feels like it's forgotten who I am between visits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 January 2014 13:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I haven't ever seen that bug. Sounds like the folder ids for your recycle bin is getting mixed up with another folder id... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Recycle Bin Bug Hi, Noticed this a few times, a bit disconcerting. If I empty my recycle bin, the workspace refreshes with someone else's learning objects in it. Can anyone reproduce this? J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Jan 13 14:39:34 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:39:34 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816D841@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816D816@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816D841@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <009601cf106d$47e392d0$d7aab870$@co.uk> Does that happen in all browsers? I haven't seen it happen as a result of deleting recycle bit specifically but we used to get similar issues on the old Techdis sandpit but wasn't consistent and only seemed to happen with IE. Obviously going back to much earlier versions not just the latest code. The only other thing I can think of different is that the old sandpit was also using ldap authentication so perhaps IE + LDAP combination explains the lack of frequency? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 January 2014 14:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I have a feeling it's related to the problem I also get when I log in and then 'cannot access this resource' when I try to edit. I log out and back in again, and it tends to sort it out. It feels like it's forgotten who I am between visits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 January 2014 13:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I haven't ever seen that bug. Sounds like the folder ids for your recycle bin is getting mixed up with another folder id. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Recycle Bin Bug Hi, Noticed this a few times, a bit disconcerting. If I empty my recycle bin, the workspace refreshes with someone else's learning objects in it. Can anyone reproduce this? J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jan 13 15:05:12 2014 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy)) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:05:12 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug In-Reply-To: <009601cf106d$47e392d0$d7aab870$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816D816@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816D841@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009601cf106d$47e392d0$d7aab870$@co.uk> Message-ID: It will be a session ID dying problem I would wonder if you get other people's stuff, or just stuff in the database that is a bit messed up and you're getting other stuff. If you do get folders, I would look in the database for those folders and if they all tie to a user ID Code wise, I believe the empty recycle bin finished screen refresh is the same code as the others use, so there is no obvious reason why this (alone) would generate this problem On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Does that happen in all browsers? > > I haven't seen it happen as a result of deleting recycle bit specifically > but we used to get similar issues on the old Techdis sandpit but wasn't > consistent and only seemed to happen with IE. Obviously going back to much > earlier versions not just the latest code. > > The only other thing I can think of different is that the old sandpit was > also using ldap authentication so perhaps IE + LDAP combination explains > the lack of frequency? > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 13 January 2014 14:08 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug > > > > I have a feeling it?s related to the problem I also get when I log in and > then ?cannot access this resource? when I try to edit. I log out and back > in again, and it tends to sort it out. It feels like it?s forgotten who I > am between visits. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Smith, John > *Sent:* 13 January 2014 13:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug > > > > I haven?t ever seen that bug. Sounds like the folder ids for your recycle > bin is getting mixed up with another folder id? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2014 1:48 PM > *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Recycle Bin Bug > > > > Hi, > > > > Noticed this a few times, a bit disconcerting. If I empty my recycle bin, > the workspace refreshes with someone else?s learning objects in it. Can > anyone reproduce this? > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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I'm just thinking how best to get an updated 'big' .xwd > so I can deploy it here. Should we change both big and small versions, > or just the small version, and then build the big version? Or just > change the small version and manually update our own big one? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 January 2014 16:14 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files > > Good :-) > > Julian Tenney schreef op 10-1-2014 16:55: > > S'ok found em > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 10 January 2014 15:54 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files > > Where are they?!? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 January 2014 15:52 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files > > I need the small ones for the translation... to build the > localized 'big ones'. > Also it is easier to maintain pages with the small ones (although > that's probably personal...) > > Tom > > Julian Tenney schreef op 10-1-2014 16:34: > > Are we still making changes to the small .xwd files for > building into a large .xwd file, or should we just commit to > the large .xwd? We've added an optional 'sound' property to > quiz questions, > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you > have received this message in error, please send it back to > me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of > this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of > an attachment may still contain software viruses which could > damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your > own checks. 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I haven't seen it happen as a result of deleting recycle bit specifically but we used to get similar issues on the old Techdis sandpit but wasn't consistent and only seemed to happen with IE. Obviously going back to much earlier versions not just the latest code. The only other thing I can think of different is that the old sandpit was also using ldap authentication so perhaps IE + LDAP combination explains the lack of frequency? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 January 2014 14:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I have a feeling it's related to the problem I also get when I log in and then 'cannot access this resource' when I try to edit. I log out and back in again, and it tends to sort it out. It feels like it's forgotten who I am between visits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 January 2014 13:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I haven't ever seen that bug. Sounds like the folder ids for your recycle bin is getting mixed up with another folder id... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Recycle Bin Bug Hi, Noticed this a few times, a bit disconcerting. If I empty my recycle bin, the workspace refreshes with someone else's learning objects in it. Can anyone reproduce this? 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That's what the 'zip builder' does. There is a .bat file in the 'build' folder Julian Tenney schreef op 13-1-2014 12:01: Is the current 'big' xwd in develop branch built from all the small ones already? I'm just thinking how best to get an updated 'big' .xwd so I can deploy it here. Should we change both big and small versions, or just the small version, and then build the big version? Or just change the small version and manually update our own big one? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 January 2014 16:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files Good :-) Julian Tenney schreef op 10-1-2014 16:55: S'ok found em From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 January 2014 15:54 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files Where are they?!? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 January 2014 15:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Updating the xwd files I need the small ones for the translation... to build the localized 'big ones'. Also it is easier to maintain pages with the small ones (although that's probably personal...) Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 10-1-2014 16:34: Are we still making changes to the small .xwd files for building into a large .xwd file, or should we just commit to the large .xwd? We've added an optional 'sound' property to quiz questions, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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If you do get folders, I would look in the database for those folders and if they all tie to a user ID Code wise, I believe the empty recycle bin finished screen refresh is the same code as the others use, so there is no obvious reason why this (alone) would generate this problem On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: Does that happen in all browsers? I haven't seen it happen as a result of deleting recycle bit specifically but we used to get similar issues on the old Techdis sandpit but wasn't consistent and only seemed to happen with IE. Obviously going back to much earlier versions not just the latest code. The only other thing I can think of different is that the old sandpit was also using ldap authentication so perhaps IE + LDAP combination explains the lack of frequency? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 January 2014 14:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I have a feeling it's related to the problem I also get when I log in and then 'cannot access this resource' when I try to edit. I log out and back in again, and it tends to sort it out. It feels like it's forgotten who I am between visits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 January 2014 13:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I haven't ever seen that bug. Sounds like the folder ids for your recycle bin is getting mixed up with another folder id... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Recycle Bin Bug Hi, Noticed this a few times, a bit disconcerting. If I empty my recycle bin, the workspace refreshes with someone else's learning objects in it. Can anyone reproduce this? J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: Tenney Julian Sent: 13 January 2014 16:28 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug Not sure, I'll test further, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 13 January 2014 14:40 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug Does that happen in all browsers? I haven't seen it happen as a result of deleting recycle bit specifically but we used to get similar issues on the old Techdis sandpit but wasn't consistent and only seemed to happen with IE. Obviously going back to much earlier versions not just the latest code. The only other thing I can think of different is that the old sandpit was also using ldap authentication so perhaps IE + LDAP combination explains the lack of frequency? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 January 2014 14:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I have a feeling it's related to the problem I also get when I log in and then 'cannot access this resource' when I try to edit. I log out and back in again, and it tends to sort it out. It feels like it's forgotten who I am between visits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 January 2014 13:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I haven't ever seen that bug. Sounds like the folder ids for your recycle bin is getting mixed up with another folder id... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Recycle Bin Bug Hi, Noticed this a few times, a bit disconcerting. If I empty my recycle bin, the workspace refreshes with someone else's learning objects in it. Can anyone reproduce this? J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jan 14 16:17:04 2014 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy)) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 16:17:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID not set In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816DE16@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816DE16@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: i'd imagine the new window is confused as to which session to use You can add a jquery on close even and call logout (but this might end up like the lockfile in that it is really hard to trap) On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > Testing further I can reliably reproduce this now> If I close the browser > window without logging out, the next time I log in I get the ?session ID > not set? issue when trying to edit an LO. If I log out, it?s OK. > > > > So we can maybe run the logout functionality when the page unloads? Having > to log in twice is getting a bit tiresome. > > > > *From:* Tenney Julian > *Sent:* 13 January 2014 16:28 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug > > > > Not sure, I?ll test further, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 13 January 2014 14:40 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug > > > > Does that happen in all browsers? > > I haven't seen it happen as a result of deleting recycle bit specifically > but we used to get similar issues on the old Techdis sandpit but wasn't > consistent and only seemed to happen with IE. Obviously going back to much > earlier versions not just the latest code. > > The only other thing I can think of different is that the old sandpit was > also using ldap authentication so perhaps IE + LDAP combination explains > the lack of frequency? > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 13 January 2014 14:08 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug > > > > I have a feeling it?s related to the problem I also get when I log in and > then ?cannot access this resource? when I try to edit. I log out and back > in again, and it tends to sort it out. It feels like it?s forgotten who I > am between visits. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Smith, John > *Sent:* 13 January 2014 13:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug > > > > I haven?t ever seen that bug. Sounds like the folder ids for your recycle > bin is getting mixed up with another folder id? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2014 1:48 PM > *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Recycle Bin Bug > > > > Hi, > > > > Noticed this a few times, a bit disconcerting. If I empty my recycle bin, > the workspace refreshes with someone else?s learning objects in it. Can > anyone reproduce this? > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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So we can maybe run the logout functionality when the page unloads? Having to log in twice is getting a bit tiresome. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 13 January 2014 16:28 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug Not sure, I'll test further, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 13 January 2014 14:40 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug Does that happen in all browsers? I haven't seen it happen as a result of deleting recycle bit specifically but we used to get similar issues on the old Techdis sandpit but wasn't consistent and only seemed to happen with IE. Obviously going back to much earlier versions not just the latest code. The only other thing I can think of different is that the old sandpit was also using ldap authentication so perhaps IE + LDAP combination explains the lack of frequency? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 January 2014 14:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I have a feeling it's related to the problem I also get when I log in and then 'cannot access this resource' when I try to edit. I log out and back in again, and it tends to sort it out. It feels like it's forgotten who I am between visits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 January 2014 13:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I haven't ever seen that bug. Sounds like the folder ids for your recycle bin is getting mixed up with another folder id... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Recycle Bin Bug Hi, Noticed this a few times, a bit disconcerting. If I empty my recycle bin, the workspace refreshes with someone else's learning objects in it. Can anyone reproduce this? J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 14 January 2014 16:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID not set i'd imagine the new window is confused as to which session to use You can add a jquery on close even and call logout (but this might end up like the lockfile in that it is really hard to trap) On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: Testing further I can reliably reproduce this now> If I close the browser window without logging out, the next time I log in I get the 'session ID not set' issue when trying to edit an LO. If I log out, it's OK. So we can maybe run the logout functionality when the page unloads? Having to log in twice is getting a bit tiresome. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 13 January 2014 16:28 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug Not sure, I'll test further, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 13 January 2014 14:40 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug Does that happen in all browsers? I haven't seen it happen as a result of deleting recycle bit specifically but we used to get similar issues on the old Techdis sandpit but wasn't consistent and only seemed to happen with IE. Obviously going back to much earlier versions not just the latest code. The only other thing I can think of different is that the old sandpit was also using ldap authentication so perhaps IE + LDAP combination explains the lack of frequency? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 January 2014 14:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I have a feeling it's related to the problem I also get when I log in and then 'cannot access this resource' when I try to edit. I log out and back in again, and it tends to sort it out. It feels like it's forgotten who I am between visits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 January 2014 13:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug I haven't ever seen that bug. Sounds like the folder ids for your recycle bin is getting mixed up with another folder id... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Recycle Bin Bug Hi, Noticed this a few times, a bit disconcerting. If I empty my recycle bin, the workspace refreshes with someone else's learning objects in it. Can anyone reproduce this? J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jan 14 17:23:05 2014 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy)) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:23:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID not set In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816DE4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816DE16@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816DE4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: it is the better one to use (from experience) that looks ok. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > See any problems with doing this: > > > > * > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 14 January 2014 16:00 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Session ID not set > > > > Testing further I can reliably reproduce this now> If I close the browser > window without logging out, the next time I log in I get the ?session ID > not set? issue when trying to edit an LO. If I log out, it?s OK. > > > > So we can maybe run the logout functionality when the page unloads? Having > to log in twice is getting a bit tiresome. > > > > *From:* Tenney Julian > *Sent:* 13 January 2014 16:28 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug > > > > Not sure, I?ll test further, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 13 January 2014 14:40 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug > > > > Does that happen in all browsers? > > I haven't seen it happen as a result of deleting recycle bit specifically > but we used to get similar issues on the old Techdis sandpit but wasn't > consistent and only seemed to happen with IE. Obviously going back to much > earlier versions not just the latest code. > > The only other thing I can think of different is that the old sandpit was > also using ldap authentication so perhaps IE + LDAP combination explains > the lack of frequency? > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 13 January 2014 14:08 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug > > > > I have a feeling it?s related to the problem I also get when I log in and > then ?cannot access this resource? when I try to edit. I log out and back > in again, and it tends to sort it out. It feels like it?s forgotten who I > am between visits. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Smith, John > *Sent:* 13 January 2014 13:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Recycle Bin Bug > > > > I haven?t ever seen that bug. Sounds like the folder ids for your recycle > bin is getting mixed up with another folder id? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2014 1:48 PM > *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Recycle Bin Bug > > > > Hi, > > > > Noticed this a few times, a bit disconcerting. 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Niko From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 January 2014 09:55 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Narration and Advanced Image Any idea why the narration when added to an advanced image page doesn't load up properly: I just get a link to 'download file': [cid:image001.png at 01CF11D8.DDFD8020] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 January 2014 09:55 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Narration and Advanced Image Any idea why the narration when added to an advanced image page doesn't load up properly: I just get a link to 'download file': [cid:image001.png at 01CF11D8.F18CAC10] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 9:55 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Narration and Advanced Image Any idea why the narration when added to an advanced image page doesn't load up properly: I just get a link to 'download file': [cid:image001.png at 01CF11D8.C29E5C00] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:01 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Narration and Advanced Image Does it work ok on other pages? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 9:55 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Narration and Advanced Image Any idea why the narration when added to an advanced image page doesn't load up properly: I just get a link to 'download file': [cid:image001.png at 01CF11D9.7CF96BD0] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 283253 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jan 15 10:09:58 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:09:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Narration and Advanced Image In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816DF61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816DF86@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Don't worry about it: this was the filename, blackberry b..mp3 it's just something in my assorted media folder for playing around with From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 15 January 2014 10:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Narration and Advanced Image List it as a bug in Github if you get a minute... it may be the parsing code that looks at extensions or something that can be improved to handle extra dots... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:01 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Narration and Advanced Image Does it work ok on other pages? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 9:55 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Narration and Advanced Image Any idea why the narration when added to an advanced image page doesn't load up properly: I just get a link to 'download file': [cid:image001.png at 01CF11D9.F20FC950] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 January 2014 09:55 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Narration and Advanced Image Any idea why the narration when added to an advanced image page doesn't load up properly: I just get a link to 'download file': -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Also I have a vague rcollection of an issue with case sensitivity e.g. .mp3 rather than .MP3 Either of those fix it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 January 2014 09:55 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Narration and Advanced Image Any idea why the narration when added to an advanced image page doesn't load up properly: I just get a link to 'download file': [cid:image001.png at 01CF11E2.8D054E50] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 283253 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Jan 15 11:23:37 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:23:37 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Narration and Advanced Image In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816E00D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816DF61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002101cf11d9$87b5d590$972180b0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE816E00D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <006001cf11e4$3df9a3e0$b9eceba0$@co.uk> I replied at 10:07! 1hr 5mins to reach the list :-( This reply sent at 11:21. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 January 2014 11:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Narration and Advanced Image Read on. But thanks! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 January 2014 10:07 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Narration and Advanced Image Just tested and works fine for me. Assuming you're using mp3 any spaces in filename? Also I have a vague rcollection of an issue with case sensitivity e.g. .mp3 rather than .MP3 Either of those fix it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 January 2014 09:55 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Narration and Advanced Image Any idea why the narration when added to an advanced image page doesn't load up properly: I just get a link to 'download file': -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image004.png Type: image/png Size: 254788 bytes Desc: image004.png URL: From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Tue Jan 21 11:56:26 2014 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:56:26 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: =?utf-8?q?FW=3A_Update?= In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866DCE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866E5D0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866E64C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAB7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAC5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <52de61ca.8c01c20a.7b36.68a2@mx.google.com> Hi Julian, I get these regularly, but they don?t seem to mean much. I think it?s Chrome having some sort of timeout system which isn?t long enough. I normally just close the window and find things are carry on as usual I get a similar response from Windows 8.1 when using my home printer which Windows claims to be unavailable even though I can hear it getting ready to print! By the way, I was hospitalised on an emergency basis just before Christmas for a ?Sigmoid volvulus? (i.e. a twisted colon). i?m told I have made a ?magnificent? recovery and returned to work on January 8th, so I have been a bit remiss with keeping up with developments etc. I still have to have regular check ups at Addenbrookes (the next one is on Thursday with the Surgeon) but I?m not expecting any problems, at the moment at any rate. A rather belated Happy New Year to you All. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: Julian Tenney Sent: ?Tuesday?, ?21? ?January? ?2014 ?11?:?52 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Any ideas? When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message ? any suggestions? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That must have been a bit worrying. I?m glad it all looks OK now? Julian From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Sent: 21 January 2014 11:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi Julian, I get these regularly, but they don?t seem to mean much. I think it?s Chrome having some sort of timeout system which isn?t long enough. I normally just close the window and find things are carry on as usual I get a similar response from Windows 8.1 when using my home printer which Windows claims to be unavailable even though I can hear it getting ready to print! By the way, I was hospitalised on an emergency basis just before Christmas for a ?Sigmoid volvulus? (i.e. a twisted colon). i?m told I have made a ?magnificent? recovery and returned to work on January 8th, so I have been a bit remiss with keeping up with developments etc. I still have to have regular check ups at Addenbrookes (the next one is on Thursday with the Surgeon) but I?m not expecting any problems, at the moment at any rate. A rather belated Happy New Year to you All. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: Julian Tenney Sent: ?Tuesday?, ?21? ?January? ?2014 ?11?:?52 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Any ideas? 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This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: > > Any ideas? > > Julian, > > > When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting > the following message -- any suggestions? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 254788 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Katrien Bernaerts" Subject: google chrome en Xerte Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:31:28 +0100 Size: 172809 URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jan 21 21:23:13 2014 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:23:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update In-Reply-To: <52DEDBD1.6080109@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866DCE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866E5D0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866E64C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAB7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAC5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <52DEDBD1.6080109@tor.nl> Message-ID: <52DEE541.60000@tor.nl> Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: > Julian, > > Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. > This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) > > This suggests that something changed in Chrome? > > Tom > > > Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Julian, >> > > >> >> When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting >> the following message -- any suggestions? >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is > on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) > > This suggests that something changed in Chrome? > > Tom > > > Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: > > Any ideas? > > Julian, > > > > > When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the > following message ? any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing listXerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing listXerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image001.png at 01CF1754.5E9C5870] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? 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Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image001.png at 01CF1754.8753C6E0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? 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From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image001.png at 01CF1758.6CED0FB0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? 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I've been in Chrome 32, on XOT now for 15 mins adding pages, saving, playing etc and haven't seen it once... [cid:image003.jpg at 01CF1759.1ED90120] Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image004.png at 01CF1759.1ED90120] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? 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Or windows 7 basic theme if on Windows? Loads of detail (and frustrated people) in herehttps://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=335248 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update The strange thing is that I can't reproduce... I've been in Chrome 32, on XOT now for 15 mins adding pages, saving, playing etc and haven't seen it once... [cid:image001.jpg at 01CF1759.B2C532F0] Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image002.png at 01CF1759.B2C532F0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? 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Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins... reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image001.png at 01CF1759.CD6D8A30] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? 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I might put a warning on our login page to say 'known issue, use FireFox...' Maybe we should communicate to the Xerte list as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah... no scrap that... it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins... reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image001.png at 01CF175A.4AB9A690] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? 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I'm running Windows 7 virtualised on a Mac so that may be the reason that I don't see it... is anyone else running Windows 7/8 virtualised? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image001.png at 01CF1759.89DEEC50] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? 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I think the best advice is don't use chrome for the time being. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:06 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have you tried turning off Aero effects? I'm running Windows 7 virtualised on a Mac so that may be the reason that I don't see it... is anyone else running Windows 7/8 virtualised? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image001.png at 01CF175B.0D9B0640] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? 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Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah. no scrap that. it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins. reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-1 7th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? 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I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 22 January 2014 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah. no scrap that. it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins. reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-1 7th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I posted it to Xerte as well. I've raised the list issues with systems so many times it's not really worth trying to push it anymore, so we either live with it, or give up with it and move elsewhere? I can give it one more go if you like, but it's not really satisfactory. Do you have the same issue with the vanilla Xerte list? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 10:48 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have sent to the teachers list and partly because I wanted to test how soon the message appeared. I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 22 January 2014 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah... no scrap that... it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins... reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image001.png at 01CF1767.8E66DD10] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? 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I'll try a quick test in a minute. If it's only happening for me or only intermittant then it's obviously not important enough to even consider moving elsewhere. Just a bit frustrating not knowing exactly why it's happening and whether just me or different for others. I know other have reported delays previously but not sure how variable this is and why. Cheers Ron Sent 12:30 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 January 2014 11:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Thanks for posting that: you'll see (or have seen?) I posted it to Xerte as well. I've raised the list issues with systems so many times it's not really worth trying to push it anymore, so we either live with it, or give up with it and move elsewhere? I can give it one more go if you like, but it's not really satisfactory. Do you have the same issue with the vanilla Xerte list? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 10:48 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have sent to the teachers list and partly because I wanted to test how soon the message appeared. I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 22 January 2014 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah. no scrap that. it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins. reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-1 7th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent a test message to the xerte list at 13:05 and received my copy from that list at 13:11. Seems like for me at least the main problem/delay is with this dev list. Cheers Ron Sent this message at 13:18 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 12:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update >From memory I'm not 100% sure if the same delay happens with the xerte list but I think it has done previously. I'll try a quick test in a minute. If it's only happening for me or only intermittant then it's obviously not important enough to even consider moving elsewhere. Just a bit frustrating not knowing exactly why it's happening and whether just me or different for others. I know other have reported delays previously but not sure how variable this is and why. Cheers Ron Sent 12:30 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 January 2014 11:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Thanks for posting that: you'll see (or have seen?) I posted it to Xerte as well. I've raised the list issues with systems so many times it's not really worth trying to push it anymore, so we either live with it, or give up with it and move elsewhere? I can give it one more go if you like, but it's not really satisfactory. Do you have the same issue with the vanilla Xerte list? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 10:48 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have sent to the teachers list and partly because I wanted to test how soon the message appeared. I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 22 January 2014 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah. no scrap that. it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins. reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-1 7th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I often see Julian's response to someone having an issue BEFORE I actually receive the email about the issue, sometimes half an hour or up to an hour before... Always thought it was our spam filters but perhaps it is the server. What are the numbers like on these lists? Are they significantly different? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:20 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ok sent my previous message to this list below at 12:30 and received my copy from the list at 13:11 so a delay of over 30mins. Sent a test message to the xerte list at 13:05 and received my copy from that list at 13:11. Seems like for me at least the main problem/delay is with this dev list. Cheers Ron Sent this message at 13:18 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 12:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update >From memory I'm not 100% sure if the same delay happens with the xerte list but I think it has done previously. I'll try a quick test in a minute. If it's only happening for me or only intermittant then it's obviously not important enough to even consider moving elsewhere. Just a bit frustrating not knowing exactly why it's happening and whether just me or different for others. I know other have reported delays previously but not sure how variable this is and why. Cheers Ron Sent 12:30 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 January 2014 11:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Thanks for posting that: you'll see (or have seen?) I posted it to Xerte as well. I've raised the list issues with systems so many times it's not really worth trying to push it anymore, so we either live with it, or give up with it and move elsewhere? I can give it one more go if you like, but it's not really satisfactory. Do you have the same issue with the vanilla Xerte list? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 10:48 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have sent to the teachers list and partly because I wanted to test how soon the message appeared. I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 22 January 2014 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah... no scrap that... it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins... reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image001.png at 01CF1778.75CF54B0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? [cid:image002.png at 01CF1778.75CF54B0] _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Or what the vaiables are? I know Julian has asked about it many times too and I guess as it mostly seems a problem with the dev list we just live with it. Not a major problem when the discussion doesn't require quick or threaded responses but as you say frustrating when they aren't in sync. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 13:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi Ron, It's not just you, I've been seeing this on and off (and have reported it to Julian) for months now. I often see Julian's response to someone having an issue BEFORE I actually receive the email about the issue, sometimes half an hour or up to an hour before. Always thought it was our spam filters but perhaps it is the server. What are the numbers like on these lists? Are they significantly different? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:20 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ok sent my previous message to this list below at 12:30 and received my copy from the list at 13:11 so a delay of over 30mins. Sent a test message to the xerte list at 13:05 and received my copy from that list at 13:11. Seems like for me at least the main problem/delay is with this dev list. Cheers Ron Sent this message at 13:18 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 12:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update >From memory I'm not 100% sure if the same delay happens with the xerte list but I think it has done previously. I'll try a quick test in a minute. If it's only happening for me or only intermittant then it's obviously not important enough to even consider moving elsewhere. Just a bit frustrating not knowing exactly why it's happening and whether just me or different for others. I know other have reported delays previously but not sure how variable this is and why. Cheers Ron Sent 12:30 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 January 2014 11:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Thanks for posting that: you'll see (or have seen?) I posted it to Xerte as well. I've raised the list issues with systems so many times it's not really worth trying to push it anymore, so we either live with it, or give up with it and move elsewhere? I can give it one more go if you like, but it's not really satisfactory. Do you have the same issue with the vanilla Xerte list? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 10:48 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have sent to the teachers list and partly because I wanted to test how soon the message appeared. I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 22 January 2014 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah. no scrap that. it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins. reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-1 7th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <015801cf177f$09a864f0$1cf92ed0$@co.uk> Hi all do I remember someone (Julian?) talking about customising the Bootstrap template to add a logo? Can't find any reference to that quickly but I've just been testing what's possible via the workspace and editor rather than customising server files. Here's the scenario: ideally I need to find a solution for different authors to upload a logo to a Bootstrap template lo just like they can with the xot template and the optional icon property. I know it's easy enough to add a banner image to the Bootstrap template and to use an image of appropriate width so that the logo appears on the left without repeating but that doesn't work so well at smaller window/browser size. Also uploading a transparent png via that route doesn't seem to maintain the transparency or loses the background colour appears white by default. Before I waste time on this anyone else already worked on a solution? 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Perhaps Julian's neen tweaking or nagging! ;-) Going to try a new thread now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 14:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi John yeah thanks I know we've all had problems with this at times - just not clear whether or not when it's happening whether it's happenning to us all at the same time? Or what the vaiables are? I know Julian has asked about it many times too and I guess as it mostly seems a problem with the dev list we just live with it. Not a major problem when the discussion doesn't require quick or threaded responses but as you say frustrating when they aren't in sync. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 13:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi Ron, It's not just you, I've been seeing this on and off (and have reported it to Julian) for months now. I often see Julian's response to someone having an issue BEFORE I actually receive the email about the issue, sometimes half an hour or up to an hour before. Always thought it was our spam filters but perhaps it is the server. What are the numbers like on these lists? Are they significantly different? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:20 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ok sent my previous message to this list below at 12:30 and received my copy from the list at 13:11 so a delay of over 30mins. Sent a test message to the xerte list at 13:05 and received my copy from that list at 13:11. Seems like for me at least the main problem/delay is with this dev list. Cheers Ron Sent this message at 13:18 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 12:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update >From memory I'm not 100% sure if the same delay happens with the xerte list but I think it has done previously. I'll try a quick test in a minute. If it's only happening for me or only intermittant then it's obviously not important enough to even consider moving elsewhere. Just a bit frustrating not knowing exactly why it's happening and whether just me or different for others. I know other have reported delays previously but not sure how variable this is and why. Cheers Ron Sent 12:30 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 January 2014 11:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Thanks for posting that: you'll see (or have seen?) I posted it to Xerte as well. I've raised the list issues with systems so many times it's not really worth trying to push it anymore, so we either live with it, or give up with it and move elsewhere? I can give it one more go if you like, but it's not really satisfactory. Do you have the same issue with the vanilla Xerte list? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 10:48 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have sent to the teachers list and partly because I wanted to test how soon the message appeared. I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 22 January 2014 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah. no scrap that. it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins. reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-1 7th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Perhaps Julian's neen tweaking or nagging! ;-) Going to try a new thread now... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 14:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi John yeah thanks I know we've all had problems with this at times - just not clear whether or not when it's happening whether it's happenning to us all at the same time? Or what the vaiables are? I know Julian has asked about it many times too and I guess as it mostly seems a problem with the dev list we just live with it. Not a major problem when the discussion doesn't require quick or threaded responses but as you say frustrating when they aren't in sync. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 13:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi Ron, It's not just you, I've been seeing this on and off (and have reported it to Julian) for months now... I often see Julian's response to someone having an issue BEFORE I actually receive the email about the issue, sometimes half an hour or up to an hour before... Always thought it was our spam filters but perhaps it is the server. What are the numbers like on these lists? Are they significantly different? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:20 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ok sent my previous message to this list below at 12:30 and received my copy from the list at 13:11 so a delay of over 30mins. Sent a test message to the xerte list at 13:05 and received my copy from that list at 13:11. Seems like for me at least the main problem/delay is with this dev list. Cheers Ron Sent this message at 13:18 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 12:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update >From memory I'm not 100% sure if the same delay happens with the xerte list but I think it has done previously. I'll try a quick test in a minute. If it's only happening for me or only intermittant then it's obviously not important enough to even consider moving elsewhere. Just a bit frustrating not knowing exactly why it's happening and whether just me or different for others. I know other have reported delays previously but not sure how variable this is and why. Cheers Ron Sent 12:30 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 January 2014 11:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Thanks for posting that: you'll see (or have seen?) I posted it to Xerte as well. I've raised the list issues with systems so many times it's not really worth trying to push it anymore, so we either live with it, or give up with it and move elsewhere? I can give it one more go if you like, but it's not really satisfactory. Do you have the same issue with the vanilla Xerte list? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 10:48 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have sent to the teachers list and partly because I wanted to test how soon the message appeared. I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 22 January 2014 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah... no scrap that... it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins... reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image001.png at 01CF1784.A81F01C0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? [cid:image002.png at 01CF1784.A81F01C0] _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I?ve tried to follow your instructions but have hit some problems: 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates So I don?t need to worry about creating anything in the templates folder to match what?s in parent_templates? 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates Did that, and my new template appears in the list on the Management pages, but does not appear in the list available to the end user. I?ve made sure it?s set to active, so I?m not sure what I?ve done wrong there. 3. edit to you hearts content I see what you mean about maintenance - the design doesn?t appear to be separated from the functionality, so it looks like new functionality might be added to Nottingham that doesn?t get reflected in designs using the new theme? Something else to add to the wish list. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I think we should try to improve on the process. But there are other aspects of Xerte that are more important (I think) at the moment. > > Point is, it's not hard to do: > > 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates > 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates > 3. edit to you hearts content > > The difficulty is the (long-term) maintenance.... > > Tom > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:42:21 +0000 Mark Berthelemy wrote > Hi there, > > I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. > > It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. > > Is there a recommended way to do this? > > I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Managing Director > Tel:01773 881 227 > Mob:07922 146 761 > Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > = > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Jan 22 15:39:51 2014 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 16:39:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? In-Reply-To: <67DD8AB9DB3846BB9BFDDFB06AF93E84@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: , <67DD8AB9DB3846BB9BFDDFB06AF93E84@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <83cd0667de3f961f829cda67baec37c3@server.tor.nl> It's been a while that I did this myself, so ehmm yes, you need to copy the tempaets as well. Setting it to active isn't always enough, you have to set access to '*' as well (I hope that makes sense to you) Tom On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:29:22 +0000 Mark Berthelemy wrote Hi Tom, Thanks for that. I've tried to follow your instructions but have hit some problems: 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates So I don't need to worry about creating anything in the templates folder to match what's in parent_templates? 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates Did that, and my new template appears in the list on the Management pages, but does not appear in the list available to the end user. I've made sure it's set to active, so I'm not sure what I've done wrong there. 3. edit to you hearts content I see what you mean about maintenance - the design doesn't appear to be separated from the functionality, so it looks like new functionality might be added to Nottingham that doesn't get reflected in designs using the new theme? Something else to add to the wish list. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel:01773 881 227 Mob:07922 146 761 Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: I think we should try to improve on the process. But there are other aspects of Xerte that are more important (I think) at the moment. Point is, it's not hard to do: 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates 3. edit to you hearts content The difficulty is the (long-term) maintenance.... Tom On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:42:21 +0000 Mark Berthelemy wrote Hi there, I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO's. It's basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. Is there a recommended way to do this? I'm finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new "template(?)" so it can be used by the learning designers. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel:01773 881 227 Mob:07922 146 761 Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk [2] Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX = _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [3] http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev [4] Links: ------ [1] mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk [2] http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk [3] mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [4] http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Wed Jan 22 15:47:21 2014 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:47:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? In-Reply-To: <67DD8AB9DB3846BB9BFDDFB06AF93E84@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: <67DD8AB9DB3846BB9BFDDFB06AF93E84@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <377A6C9B4BB949CCAEFC50BB95B294A1@wyversolutions.co.uk> Hi Tom, Got it. I hadn?t realised you had to make the template available to people. Thanks for your help. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:29, Mark Berthelemy wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Thanks for that. > > I?ve tried to follow your instructions but have hit some problems: > > 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates > > So I don?t need to worry about creating anything in the templates folder to match what?s in parent_templates? > > 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates > > Did that, and my new template appears in the list on the Management pages, but does not appear in the list available to the end user. I?ve made sure it?s set to active, so I?m not sure what I?ve done wrong there. > > 3. edit to you hearts content > > I see what you mean about maintenance - the design doesn?t appear to be separated from the functionality, so it looks like new functionality might be added to Nottingham that doesn?t get reflected in designs using the new theme? > > Something else to add to the wish list. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Managing Director > Tel: 01773 881 227 > Mob: 07922 146 761 > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > > I think we should try to improve on the process. But there are other aspects of Xerte that are more important (I think) at the moment. > > > > Point is, it's not hard to do: > > > > 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates > > 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates > > 3. edit to you hearts content > > > > The difficulty is the (long-term) maintenance.... > > > > Tom > > > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:42:21 +0000 Mark Berthelemy wrote > > Hi there, > > > > I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. > > > > It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. > > > > Is there a recommended way to do this? > > > > I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Managing Director > > Tel:01773 881 227 > > Mob:07922 146 761 > > Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > > = > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Wed Jan 22 15:57:07 2014 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:57:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? In-Reply-To: <83cd0667de3f961f829cda67baec37c3@server.tor.nl> References: <,> <67DD8AB9DB3846BB9BFDDFB06AF93E84@wyversolutions.co.uk> <83cd0667de3f961f829cda67baec37c3@server.tor.nl> Message-ID: <0F34FEC1764D4CD89C20C972231A6399@wyversolutions.co.uk> Hi Tom, Yes, that makes sense. This is the complete set of instructions to create a new template and make it visible to users, with a new display name. Copy the parent_templates/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates Change the name of the new folder to Copy the templates/Nottingham folder to a new folder in templates Change the name of the new folder to match Edit Nottingham.info (http://Nottingham.info) in the new templates/ Change Display name to something meaningful Rename Nottingham.info (http://Nottingham.info) to .info Go into management.php, and rescan the templates Put * into the field: The following users can access this template Edit parent_templates//css/themeStyles.css I?ll get this in the documentation? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:39, Tom Reijnders wrote: > It's been a while that I did this myself, so ehmm yes, you need to copy the tempaets as well. > > Setting it to active isn't always enough, you have to set access to '*' as well (I hope that makes sense to you) > > Tom > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:29:22 +0000 Mark Berthelemy wrote > Hi Tom, > > Thanks for that. > > I?ve tried to follow your instructions but have hit some problems: > > 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates > > So I don?t need to worry about creating anything in the templates folder to match what?s in parent_templates? > > 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates > > Did that, and my new template appears in the list on the Management pages, but does not appear in the list available to the end user. I?ve made sure it?s set to active, so I?m not sure what I?ve done wrong there. > > 3. edit to you hearts content > > I see what you mean about maintenance - the design doesn?t appear to be separated from the functionality, so it looks like new functionality might be added to Nottingham that doesn?t get reflected in designs using the new theme? > > Something else to add to the wish list. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Managing Director > Tel:01773 881 227 > Mob:07922 146 761 > Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > I think we should try to improve on the process. But there are other aspects of Xerte that are more important (I think) at the moment. > > > > Point is, it's not hard to do: > > > > 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates > > 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates > > 3. edit to you hearts content > > > > The difficulty is the (long-term) maintenance.... > > > > Tom > > > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:42:21 +0000 Mark Berthelemy wrote > > Hi there, > > > > I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. > > > > It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. > > > > Is there a recommended way to do this? > > > > I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Managing Director > > Tel:01773 881 227 > > Mob:07922 146 761 > > Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > > = > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Jan 22 15:40:47 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:40:47 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866DCE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866E5D0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866E64C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAB7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAC5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <52DEDBD1.6080109@tor.nl> <52DEE541.60000@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815749@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009001cf175f$8100a9b0$8301fd10$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815877@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f701cf176d$e9dde020$bd99a060$@co.uk> <012001cf1774$9b72a220$d257e660$@co.uk> <014601cf177c$20507100$60f15300$@co.uk> <015201cf177d$8f239b60$ad6ad220$@co.uk> Message-ID: <01a801cf1788$52f82920$f8e87b60$@co.uk> :-( alas my new thread message re adding a logo to Bootstrap was sent at 14:34 and received 15:16. Likewise reply to Mark sent 15:22 and not yet received (15:40) even though Tom and Mark have posted subsequent messages which have been received. Sending this 15:40 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 15:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update ;-) sent 3:14pm Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:24 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sent 14:13 received 14:15 - wow! Perhaps Julian's neen tweaking or nagging! ;-) Going to try a new thread now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 14:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi John yeah thanks I know we've all had problems with this at times - just not clear whether or not when it's happening whether it's happenning to us all at the same time? Or what the vaiables are? I know Julian has asked about it many times too and I guess as it mostly seems a problem with the dev list we just live with it. Not a major problem when the discussion doesn't require quick or threaded responses but as you say frustrating when they aren't in sync. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 13:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi Ron, It's not just you, I've been seeing this on and off (and have reported it to Julian) for months now. I often see Julian's response to someone having an issue BEFORE I actually receive the email about the issue, sometimes half an hour or up to an hour before. Always thought it was our spam filters but perhaps it is the server. What are the numbers like on these lists? Are they significantly different? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:20 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ok sent my previous message to this list below at 12:30 and received my copy from the list at 13:11 so a delay of over 30mins. Sent a test message to the xerte list at 13:05 and received my copy from that list at 13:11. Seems like for me at least the main problem/delay is with this dev list. Cheers Ron Sent this message at 13:18 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 12:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update >From memory I'm not 100% sure if the same delay happens with the xerte list but I think it has done previously. I'll try a quick test in a minute. If it's only happening for me or only intermittant then it's obviously not important enough to even consider moving elsewhere. Just a bit frustrating not knowing exactly why it's happening and whether just me or different for others. I know other have reported delays previously but not sure how variable this is and why. Cheers Ron Sent 12:30 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 January 2014 11:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Thanks for posting that: you'll see (or have seen?) I posted it to Xerte as well. I've raised the list issues with systems so many times it's not really worth trying to push it anymore, so we either live with it, or give up with it and move elsewhere? I can give it one more go if you like, but it's not really satisfactory. Do you have the same issue with the vanilla Xerte list? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 10:48 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have sent to the teachers list and partly because I wanted to test how soon the message appeared. I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 22 January 2014 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah. no scrap that. it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins. reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-1 7th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can add a custom css file to the main template via optional properties and you can also tweak the default xml so that the same custom xss is included in any new LO's created. The other option which in reality can be quicker and easier than the new template route is to have a separate installation for each customisation required. Just my experience. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 14:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to create a new template? Hi there, I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. Is there a recommended way to do this? 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jan 22 16:14:16 2014 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 16:14:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update In-Reply-To: <01a801cf1788$52f82920$f8e87b60$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866DCE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866E5D0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866E64C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAB7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAC5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <52DEDBD1.6080109@tor.nl> <52DEE541.60000@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815749@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009001cf175f$8100a9b0$8301fd10$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815877@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f701cf176d$e9dde020$bd99a060$@co.uk> <012001cf1774$9b72a220$d257e660$@co.uk> <014601cf177c$20507100$60f15300$@co.uk> <015201cf177d$8f239b60$ad6ad220$@co.uk> <01a801cf1788$52f82920$f8e87b60$@co.uk> Message-ID: I got your 'logo to Bootstrap' message at 15:36 and got mine (sent 15:14) at 15:32... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:41 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update :-( alas my new thread message re adding a logo to Bootstrap was sent at 14:34 and received 15:16. Likewise reply to Mark sent 15:22 and not yet received (15:40) even though Tom and Mark have posted subsequent messages which have been received. Sending this 15:40 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 15:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update ;-) sent 3:14pm Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:24 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sent 14:13 received 14:15 - wow! Perhaps Julian's neen tweaking or nagging! ;-) Going to try a new thread now... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 14:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi John yeah thanks I know we've all had problems with this at times - just not clear whether or not when it's happening whether it's happenning to us all at the same time? Or what the vaiables are? I know Julian has asked about it many times too and I guess as it mostly seems a problem with the dev list we just live with it. Not a major problem when the discussion doesn't require quick or threaded responses but as you say frustrating when they aren't in sync. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 13:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi Ron, It's not just you, I've been seeing this on and off (and have reported it to Julian) for months now... I often see Julian's response to someone having an issue BEFORE I actually receive the email about the issue, sometimes half an hour or up to an hour before... Always thought it was our spam filters but perhaps it is the server. What are the numbers like on these lists? Are they significantly different? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:20 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ok sent my previous message to this list below at 12:30 and received my copy from the list at 13:11 so a delay of over 30mins. Sent a test message to the xerte list at 13:05 and received my copy from that list at 13:11. Seems like for me at least the main problem/delay is with this dev list. Cheers Ron Sent this message at 13:18 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 12:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update >From memory I'm not 100% sure if the same delay happens with the xerte list but I think it has done previously. I'll try a quick test in a minute. If it's only happening for me or only intermittant then it's obviously not important enough to even consider moving elsewhere. Just a bit frustrating not knowing exactly why it's happening and whether just me or different for others. I know other have reported delays previously but not sure how variable this is and why. Cheers Ron Sent 12:30 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 January 2014 11:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Thanks for posting that: you'll see (or have seen?) I posted it to Xerte as well. I've raised the list issues with systems so many times it's not really worth trying to push it anymore, so we either live with it, or give up with it and move elsewhere? I can give it one more go if you like, but it's not really satisfactory. Do you have the same issue with the vanilla Xerte list? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 10:48 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have sent to the teachers list and partly because I wanted to test how soon the message appeared. I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 22 January 2014 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah... no scrap that... it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins... reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? [cid:image001.png at 01CF178C.FF25EE90] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? 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Will your solution deal with the problem whereby the new CSS is only applied after the LO has loaded with the standard CSS - so you get a flash look at the standard design first? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:22, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Unless you are also talking about customising/branding the different page types too e.g. as well as the player interface, I wouldn't look at adding a new template. It can be quite time-consuming keeping subsequent changes in sync if you create a derivative template based on a particular point in time. > > You can add a custom css file to the main template via optional properties and you can also tweak the default xml so that the same custom xss is included in any new LO's created. > > The other option which in reality can be quicker and easier than the new template route is to have a separate installation for each customisation required. > > Just my experience. > Ron > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 22 January 2014 14:42 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to create a new template? > > Hi there, > > > > I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. > > > > It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. > > > > Is there a recommended way to do this? > > > > I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Managing Director > > Tel: 01773 881 227 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Jan 22 16:15:48 2014 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:15:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update In-Reply-To: <01a801cf1788$52f82920$f8e87b60$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866DCE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866E5D0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866E64C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAB7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAC5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE866EAED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><52DEDBD1.6080109@tor.nl><52DEE541.60000@tor.nl><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815749@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><009001cf175f$8100a9b0$8301fd10$@co.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815877@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><00f701cf176d$e9dde020$bd99a060$@co.uk><012001cf1774$9b72a220$d257e660$@co.uk><014601cf177c$20507100$60f15300$@co.uk><015201cf177d$8f239b60$ad6ad220$@co.uk> , <01a801cf1788$52f82920$f8e87b60$@co.uk> Message-ID: I am observing the same issue. I have received a reply from Mark on my own message, before I saw my message arrive on the list.... Tom On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:40:47 -0000 "Ron Mitchell" wrote :-( alas my new thread message re adding a logo to Bootstrap was sent at 14:34 and received 15:16. Likewise reply to Mark sent 15:22 and not yet received (15:40) even though Tom and Mark have posted subsequent messages which have been received. Sending this 15:40 FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF Smith, John SENT: 22 January 2014 15:15 TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update ;-) sent 3:14pm Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health font-family: Calibri, 'sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;" lang="en-us" xml:lang="en-us">Glasgow Caledonian University FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [1] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [2]] ON BEHALF OF Ron Mitchell SENT: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:24 PM TO: 'For Xerte technical developers' SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sent 14:13 received 14:15 - wow! Perhaps Julian's neen tweaking or nagging! ;-) Going to try a new thread now FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [3] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [4]] ON BEHALF OF Ron Mitchell SENT: 22 January 2014 14:13 TO: 'For Xerte technical developers' SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi John yeah thanks I know we've all had problems with this at times - just not clear whether or not when it's happening whether it's happenning to us all at the same time? Or what the vaiables are? I know Julian has asked about it many times too and I guess as it mostly seems a problem with the dev list we just live with it. Not a major problem when the discussion doesn't require quick or threaded responses but as you say frustrating when they aren't in sync. Cheers Ron FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [5] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [6]] ON BEHALF OF Smith, John SENT: 22 January 2014 13:47 TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi Ron, It's not just you, I've been seeing this on and off (and have reported it to Julian) for months now I often see Julian's response to someone having an issue BEFORE I actually receive the email about the issue, sometimes half an hour or up to an hour before Always thought it was our spam filters but perhaps it is the server. What are the numbers like on these lists? Are they significantly different? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health font-family: Calibri, 'sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;" lang="en-us" xml:lang="en-us">Glasgow Caledonian University FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [7] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [8]] ON BEHALF OF Ron Mitchell SENT: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:20 PM TO: 'For Xerte technical developers' SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ok sent my previous message to this list below at 12:30 and received my copy from the list at 13:11 so a delay of over 30mins. Sent a test message to the xerte list at 13:05 and received my copy from that list at 13:11. Seems like for me at least the main problem/delay is with this dev list. Cheers Ron Sent this message at 13:18 FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [9] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [10]] ON BEHALF OF Ron Mitchell SENT: 22 January 2014 12:32 TO: 'For Xerte technical developers' SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update From memory I'm not 100% sure if the same delay happens with the xerte list but I think it has done previously. I'll try a quick test in a minute. If it's only happening for me or only intermittant then it's obviously not important enough to even consider moving elsewhere. Just a bit frustrating not knowing exactly why it's happening and whether just me or different for others. I know other have reported delays previously but not sure how variable this is and why. Cheers Ron Sent 12:30 FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [11] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [12]] ON BEHALF OF Julian Tenney SENT: 22 January 2014 11:46 TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Thanks for posting that: you'll see (or have seen?) I posted it to Xerte as well. I've raised the list issues with systems so many times it's not really worth trying to push it anymore, so we either live with it, or give up with it and move elsewhere? I can give it one more go if you like, but it's not really satisfactory. Do you have the same issue with the vanilla Xerte list? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [13] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [14]] ON BEHALF OF Ron Mitchell SENT: 22 January 2014 10:48 TO: 'For Xerte technical developers' SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have sent to the teachers list and partly because I wanted to test how soon the message appeared. I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron FROM: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk [15]] SENT: 22 January 2014 10:23 TO: 'For Xerte technical developers' SUBJECT: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [16] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [17]] ON BEHALF OF Smith, John SENT: 22 January 2014 10:08 TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah no scrap that it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health font-family: Calibri, 'sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;" lang="en-us" xml:lang="en-us">Glasgow Caledonian University FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [18] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [19]] ON BEHALF OF Julian Tenney SENT: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM TO: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [20]) SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ [21] Cosmic. FROM: Tenney Julian SENT: 22 January 2014 09:30 TO: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' SUBJECT: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-17th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert [22] FROM: Tenney Julian SENT: 22 January 2014 09:29 TO: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' SUBJECT: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [23] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [24]] ON BEHALF OF Pat L (pgogy) SENT: 21 January 2014 22:16 TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? 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Rescanning puts the template into the database, but doesn't make any assumptions on availability On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Mark Berthelemy < mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Thanks for that. > > I?ve tried to follow your instructions but have hit some problems: > > 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in > parent_templates > > So I don?t need to worry about creating anything in the templates folder > to match what?s in parent_templates? > > 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates > > Did that, and my new template appears in the list on the Management pages, > but does not appear in the list available to the end user. I?ve made sure > it?s set to active, so I?m not sure what I?ve done wrong there. > > 3. edit to you hearts content > > I see what you mean about maintenance - the design doesn?t appear to be > separated from the functionality, so it looks like new functionality might > be added to Nottingham that doesn?t get reflected in designs using the new > theme? > > Something else to add to the wish list. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Managing Director > Tel: 01773 881 227 > Mob: 07922 146 761 > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | > Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, > DE56 1AX > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > I think we should try to improve on the process. But there are other > aspects of Xerte that are more important (I think) at the moment. > > Point is, it's not hard to do: > > 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in > parent_templates > 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates > 3. edit to you hearts content > > The difficulty is the (long-term) maintenance.... > > Tom > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:42:21 +0000 Mark Berthelemy < > mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk> wrote > Hi there, > > I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will > be used across all new LO?s. > > It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with > tweaks to brand it. > > Is there a recommended way to do this? > > I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the > relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by > the learning designers. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Managing Director > Tel:01773 881 227 > Mob:07922 146 761 > Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | > Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, > DE56 1AX > > = > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I guess as well all know about it we can just live with it but it's a bit of a dis-incentive to replying wherever a quick response is required. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 16:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I got your 'logo to Bootstrap' message at 15:36 and got mine (sent 15:14) at 15:32. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:41 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update :-( alas my new thread message re adding a logo to Bootstrap was sent at 14:34 and received 15:16. Likewise reply to Mark sent 15:22 and not yet received (15:40) even though Tom and Mark have posted subsequent messages which have been received. Sending this 15:40 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 15:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update ;-) sent 3:14pm Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:24 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sent 14:13 received 14:15 - wow! Perhaps Julian's neen tweaking or nagging! ;-) Going to try a new thread now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 14:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi John yeah thanks I know we've all had problems with this at times - just not clear whether or not when it's happening whether it's happenning to us all at the same time? Or what the vaiables are? I know Julian has asked about it many times too and I guess as it mostly seems a problem with the dev list we just live with it. Not a major problem when the discussion doesn't require quick or threaded responses but as you say frustrating when they aren't in sync. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 13:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hi Ron, It's not just you, I've been seeing this on and off (and have reported it to Julian) for months now. I often see Julian's response to someone having an issue BEFORE I actually receive the email about the issue, sometimes half an hour or up to an hour before. Always thought it was our spam filters but perhaps it is the server. What are the numbers like on these lists? Are they significantly different? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:20 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ok sent my previous message to this list below at 12:30 and received my copy from the list at 13:11 so a delay of over 30mins. Sent a test message to the xerte list at 13:05 and received my copy from that list at 13:11. Seems like for me at least the main problem/delay is with this dev list. Cheers Ron Sent this message at 13:18 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 12:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update >From memory I'm not 100% sure if the same delay happens with the xerte list but I think it has done previously. I'll try a quick test in a minute. If it's only happening for me or only intermittant then it's obviously not important enough to even consider moving elsewhere. Just a bit frustrating not knowing exactly why it's happening and whether just me or different for others. I know other have reported delays previously but not sure how variable this is and why. Cheers Ron Sent 12:30 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 January 2014 11:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Thanks for posting that: you'll see (or have seen?) I posted it to Xerte as well. I've raised the list issues with systems so many times it's not really worth trying to push it anymore, so we either live with it, or give up with it and move elsewhere? I can give it one more go if you like, but it's not really satisfactory. Do you have the same issue with the vanilla Xerte list? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 10:48 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Have sent to the teachers list and partly because I wanted to test how soon the message appeared. I know we've had list delays before but how come my messages to this list take ages to come through when on teachers list any message appears in seconds? I know they are both hosted differently and different list technology too but is there anything I can do at my end to avoid the delay getting through to this list? Cheers Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 22 January 2014 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update I can reproduce using Chrome too. Should we post a message to the other lists warning of this e.g. prevention better than cure especially as it's not a Xerte only issue? Happy to send a user friendly note to the teachers list or does anything think that's not a good idea? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 January 2014 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Ah. no scrap that. it's definitely scrolling related. Because I have a huge screen and the browser windows have never had to scroll then I never saw for 20 mins. reduced the window size, scrolled the window and 30 seconds later it is there. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:58 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update More info here: http://frankcode.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/chrome-32-broke-the-internet/ Cosmic. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:30 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Sounds like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21231011/latest-google-chrome-update-on-1 7th-jan-2014-triggers-pages-unresponsive-alert From: Tenney Julian Sent: 22 January 2014 09:29 To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Hmm. Not even 30 seconds in and I start getting it too. Any idea how to start to debug? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 21 January 2014 22:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Update Version 32.0.1700.76 m here too definitely these last few days I suspect it is struggling with jquery closure stuff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: Version 32.0.1700.76 m Tom Reijnders schreef op 21-1-2014 21:42: Julian, Users at Toll-net Belgium observe the same issue since a few days. This is on an 2.1 installation of a few months back (see attached) This suggests that something changed in Chrome? Tom Julian Tenney schreef op 21-1-2014 12:52: Any ideas? Julian, When using the prototype I am finding that I am continually getting the following message - any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't have time to detail all the reasons for that right now just my experience over many years of maintaining copies of templates and page types. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 16:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Hi Ron, It is just the interface I?m looking at. So your idea makes perfect sense. It?s what I was hoping for to be honest. Where do I find the optional properties for a main template, and the default XML? I know how to tweak CSS for each individual learning object, but not how to make it apply to every learning object. Will your solution deal with the problem whereby the new CSS is only applied after the LO has loaded with the standard CSS - so you get a flash look at the standard design first? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:22, Ron Mitchell wrote: Unless you are also talking about customising/branding the different page types too e.g. as well as the player interface, I wouldn't look at adding a new template. It can be quite time-consuming keeping subsequent changes in sync if you create a derivative template based on a particular point in time. You can add a custom css file to the main template via optional properties and you can also tweak the default xml so that the same custom xss is included in any new LO's created. The other option which in reality can be quicker and easier than the new template route is to have a separate installation for each customisation required. Just my experience. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 14:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to create a new template? Hi there, I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. Is there a recommended way to do this? I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 15:57 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Hi Tom, Yes, that makes sense. This is the complete set of instructions to create a new template and make it visible to users, with a new display name. 1. Copy the parent_templates/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates 2. Change the name of the new folder to 3. Copy the templates/Nottingham folder to a new folder in templates 4. Change the name of the new folder to match 5. Edit Nottingham.info in the new templates/ 6. Change Display name to something meaningful 7. Rename Nottingham.info to .info 8. Go into management.php, and rescan the templates 9. Put * into the field: The following users can access this template 10. Edit parent_templates//css/themeStyles.css I?ll get this in the documentation? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:39, Tom Reijnders wrote: It's been a while that I did this myself, so ehmm yes, you need to copy the tempaets as well. Setting it to active isn't always enough, you have to set access to '*' as well (I hope that makes sense to you) Tom On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:29:22 +0000 Mark Berthelemy > wrote Hi Tom, Thanks for that. I?ve tried to follow your instructions but have hit some problems: 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates So I don?t need to worry about creating anything in the templates folder to match what?s in parent_templates? 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates Did that, and my new template appears in the list on the Management pages, but does not appear in the list available to the end user. I?ve made sure it?s set to active, so I?m not sure what I?ve done wrong there. 3. edit to you hearts content I see what you mean about maintenance - the design doesn?t appear to be separated from the functionality, so it looks like new functionality might be added to Nottingham that doesn?t get reflected in designs using the new theme? Something else to add to the wish list. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel:01773 881 227 Mob:07922 146 761 Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: I think we should try to improve on the process. But there are other aspects of Xerte that are more important (I think) at the moment. Point is, it's not hard to do: 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates 3. edit to you hearts content The difficulty is the (long-term) maintenance.... Tom On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:42:21 +0000 Mark Berthelemy > wrote Hi there, I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. Is there a recommended way to do this? I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel:01773 881 227 Mob:07922 146 761 Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX = _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Can't find any reference to that quickly but I've just been testing what's possible via the workspace and editor rather than customising server files... Here's the scenario: ideally I need to find a solution for different authors to upload a logo to a Bootstrap template lo just like they can with the xot template and the optional icon property. I know it's easy enough to add a banner image to the Bootstrap template and to use an image of appropriate width so that the logo appears on the left without repeating but that doesn't work so well at smaller window/browser size. Also uploading a transparent png via that route doesn't seem to maintain the transparency or loses the background colour appears white by default. Before I waste time on this anyone else already worked on a solution? Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Where do I find the list of elements that can be added and then tweaked? Also, when you say customise an installation, do you just mean editing parent_templates/Nottingham/css/themeStyles.css - perhaps by using @import to pull in another CSS file? That?s where I?ve ended up so far. What I?m hearing is that each department that might want its own branding on LO's needs its own installation of Xerte - because it?s easier to maintain the installations than the templates. Is that right? Or a development team, working with multiple depts will need an instance of Xerte for each dept? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 16:43, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi Mark > You can make anything you want part of new LO's by tweaking \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\data.xml > However it's not that simple because of also changing buttons etc and as you suspect it may not resolve the loading order. > I would still suggest customising an installation rather than a copy of the template is a better long term strategy. I don't have time to detail all the reasons for that right now just my experience over many years of maintaining copies of templates and page types. > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 22 January 2014 16:18 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? > > Hi Ron, > > > It is just the interface I?m looking at. So your idea makes perfect sense. It?s what I was hoping for to be honest. > > > > Where do I find the optional properties for a main template, and the default XML? I know how to tweak CSS for each individual learning object, but not how to make it apply to every learning object. > > > > Will your solution deal with the problem whereby the new CSS is only applied after the LO has loaded with the standard CSS - so you get a flash look at the standard design first? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Managing Director > > Tel: 01773 881 227 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:22, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > Unless you are also talking about customising/branding the different page types too e.g. as well as the player interface, I wouldn't look at adding a new template. It can be quite time-consuming keeping subsequent changes in sync if you create a derivative template based on a particular point in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can add a custom css file to the main template via optional properties and you can also tweak the default xml so that the same custom xss is included in any new LO's created. > > > > > > > > > > > > The other option which in reality can be quicker and easier than the new template route is to have a separate installation for each customisation required. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my experience. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > Sent: 22 January 2014 14:42 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to create a new template? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a recommended way to do this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > Managing Director > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 881 227 > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815ACE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <015801cf177f$09a864f0$1cf92ed0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815ACE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <022f01cf1793$23ac4ec0$6b04ec40$@co.uk> Thanks for that. Will have a play and feedback at some point but likely to be next week at earliest now. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 January 2014 16:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: adding a logo using the Bootstrap template? Yeah, I added one for UoN, see www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8222 The css and play / preview php are attached. It wasn't straightforward to make work nicely because of the responsive stuff going on. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 January 2014 14:34 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] adding a logo using the Bootstrap template? Hi all do I remember someone (Julian?) talking about customising the Bootstrap template to add a logo? Can't find any reference to that quickly but I've just been testing what's possible via the workspace and editor rather than customising server files. Here's the scenario: ideally I need to find a solution for different authors to upload a logo to a Bootstrap template lo just like they can with the xot template and the optional icon property. I know it's easy enough to add a banner image to the Bootstrap template and to use an image of appropriate width so that the logo appears on the left without repeating but that doesn't work so well at smaller window/browser size. Also uploading a transparent png via that route doesn't seem to maintain the transparency or loses the background colour appears white by default. Before I waste time on this anyone else already worked on a solution? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Jan 22 17:17:18 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:17:18 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? In-Reply-To: <89ACC20E480A4BF9BB8B9A922B327C70@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: <018801cf1785$c15cfe20$4416fa60$@co.uk> <020f01cf1791$07737e60$165a7b20$@co.uk> <89ACC20E480A4BF9BB8B9A922B327C70@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <024001cf1795$ceda4250$6c8ec6f0$@co.uk> Hi Mark custom stylesheet is an optional property so what I meant was that you can include the addition of that in data.xml and the css file in the \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\media folder as though it was added to the LO whilst editing. That will apply to the Nottingham template sitewide but then users can obviously replace or remove the css file via the editor. pros and cons with each option but if the requirement is different themes for each department I'm not sure that multiple installations or multiple copies of the template are really viable long term. As others have alluded there are always areas for improvement and ideally wherever the itch is strong enough those improvements are contributed back. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 16:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Hi Ron, Forgive the basic questions, but data.xml only contains three elements. None of which are to do with CSS. Where do I find the list of elements that can be added and then tweaked? Also, when you say customise an installation, do you just mean editing parent_templates/Nottingham/css/themeStyles.css - perhaps by using @import to pull in another CSS file? That?s where I?ve ended up so far. What I?m hearing is that each department that might want its own branding on LO's needs its own installation of Xerte - because it?s easier to maintain the installations than the templates. Is that right? Or a development team, working with multiple depts will need an instance of Xerte for each dept? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 16:43, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi Mark You can make anything you want part of new LO's by tweaking \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\data.xml However it's not that simple because of also changing buttons etc and as you suspect it may not resolve the loading order. I would still suggest customising an installation rather than a copy of the template is a better long term strategy. I don't have time to detail all the reasons for that right now just my experience over many years of maintaining copies of templates and page types. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 16:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Hi Ron, It is just the interface I?m looking at. So your idea makes perfect sense. It?s what I was hoping for to be honest. Where do I find the optional properties for a main template, and the default XML? I know how to tweak CSS for each individual learning object, but not how to make it apply to every learning object. Will your solution deal with the problem whereby the new CSS is only applied after the LO has loaded with the standard CSS - so you get a flash look at the standard design first? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:22, Ron Mitchell wrote: Unless you are also talking about customising/branding the different page types too e.g. as well as the player interface, I wouldn't look at adding a new template. It can be quite time-consuming keeping subsequent changes in sync if you create a derivative template based on a particular point in time. You can add a custom css file to the main template via optional properties and you can also tweak the default xml so that the same custom xss is included in any new LO's created. The other option which in reality can be quicker and easier than the new template route is to have a separate installation for each customisation required. Just my experience. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 14:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to create a new template? Hi there, I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. Is there a recommended way to do this? I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 17:17, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi Mark > custom stylesheet is an optional property so what I meant was that you can include the addition of that in data.xml and the css file in the \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\media folder as though it was added to the LO whilst editing. That will apply to the Nottingham template sitewide but then users can obviously replace or remove the css file via the editor. > > pros and cons with each option but if the requirement is different themes for each department I'm not sure that multiple installations or multiple copies of the template are really viable long term. > > As others have alluded there are always areas for improvement and ideally wherever the itch is strong enough those improvements are contributed back. > > Ron > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 22 January 2014 16:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? > > Hi Ron, > > > > Forgive the basic questions, but data.xml only contains three elements. None of which are to do with CSS. Where do I find the list of elements that can be added and then tweaked? > > > > Also, when you say customise an installation, do you just mean editing parent_templates/Nottingham/css/themeStyles.css - perhaps by using @import to pull in another CSS file? > > > > That?s where I?ve ended up so far. > > > > What I?m hearing is that each department that might want its own branding on LO's needs its own installation of Xerte - because it?s easier to maintain the installations than the templates. Is that right? Or a development team, working with multiple depts will need an instance of Xerte for each dept? > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Managing Director > > Tel: 01773 881 227 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 16:43, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > Hi Mark > > > > > > You can make anything you want part of new LO's by tweaking \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\data.xml > > > > > > However it's not that simple because of also changing buttons etc and as you suspect it may not resolve the loading order. > > > > > > I would still suggest customising an installation rather than a copy of the template is a better long term strategy. I don't have time to detail all the reasons for that right now just my experience over many years of maintaining copies of templates and page types. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > Sent: 22 January 2014 16:18 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ron, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is just the interface I?m looking at. So your idea makes perfect sense. It?s what I was hoping for to be honest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where do I find the optional properties for a main template, and the default XML? I know how to tweak CSS for each individual learning object, but not how to make it apply to every learning object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will your solution deal with the problem whereby the new CSS is only applied after the LO has loaded with the standard CSS - so you get a flash look at the standard design first? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > Managing Director > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 881 227 > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:22, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > Unless you are also talking about customising/branding the different page types too e.g. as well as the player interface, I wouldn't look at adding a new template. It can be quite time-consuming keeping subsequent changes in sync if you create a derivative template based on a particular point in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can add a custom css file to the main template via optional properties and you can also tweak the default xml so that the same custom xss is included in any new LO's created. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other option which in reality can be quicker and easier than the new template route is to have a separate installation for each customisation required. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my experience. > > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > > Sent: 22 January 2014 14:42 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to create a new template? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a recommended way to do this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > > > > > Managing Director > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 881 227 > > > > > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Wed Jan 22 17:22:15 2014 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:22:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? In-Reply-To: <024001cf1795$ceda4250$6c8ec6f0$@co.uk> References: <018801cf1785$c15cfe20$4416fa60$@co.uk> <020f01cf1791$07737e60$165a7b20$@co.uk> <89ACC20E480A4BF9BB8B9A922B327C70@wyversolutions.co.uk> <024001cf1795$ceda4250$6c8ec6f0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <32CDF96623914822BD96BB494ECDD874@wyversolutions.co.uk> Thanks Ron, Understood. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 17:17, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi Mark > custom stylesheet is an optional property so what I meant was that you can include the addition of that in data.xml and the css file in the \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\media folder as though it was added to the LO whilst editing. That will apply to the Nottingham template sitewide but then users can obviously replace or remove the css file via the editor. > > pros and cons with each option but if the requirement is different themes for each department I'm not sure that multiple installations or multiple copies of the template are really viable long term. > > As others have alluded there are always areas for improvement and ideally wherever the itch is strong enough those improvements are contributed back. > > Ron > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 22 January 2014 16:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? > > Hi Ron, > > > > Forgive the basic questions, but data.xml only contains three elements. None of which are to do with CSS. Where do I find the list of elements that can be added and then tweaked? > > > > Also, when you say customise an installation, do you just mean editing parent_templates/Nottingham/css/themeStyles.css - perhaps by using @import to pull in another CSS file? > > > > That?s where I?ve ended up so far. > > > > What I?m hearing is that each department that might want its own branding on LO's needs its own installation of Xerte - because it?s easier to maintain the installations than the templates. Is that right? Or a development team, working with multiple depts will need an instance of Xerte for each dept? > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Managing Director > > Tel: 01773 881 227 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 16:43, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > Hi Mark > > > > > > You can make anything you want part of new LO's by tweaking \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\data.xml > > > > > > However it's not that simple because of also changing buttons etc and as you suspect it may not resolve the loading order. > > > > > > I would still suggest customising an installation rather than a copy of the template is a better long term strategy. I don't have time to detail all the reasons for that right now just my experience over many years of maintaining copies of templates and page types. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > Sent: 22 January 2014 16:18 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ron, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is just the interface I?m looking at. So your idea makes perfect sense. It?s what I was hoping for to be honest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where do I find the optional properties for a main template, and the default XML? I know how to tweak CSS for each individual learning object, but not how to make it apply to every learning object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will your solution deal with the problem whereby the new CSS is only applied after the LO has loaded with the standard CSS - so you get a flash look at the standard design first? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > Managing Director > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 881 227 > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:22, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > Unless you are also talking about customising/branding the different page types too e.g. as well as the player interface, I wouldn't look at adding a new template. It can be quite time-consuming keeping subsequent changes in sync if you create a derivative template based on a particular point in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can add a custom css file to the main template via optional properties and you can also tweak the default xml so that the same custom xss is included in any new LO's created. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other option which in reality can be quicker and easier than the new template route is to have a separate installation for each customisation required. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my experience. > > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > > Sent: 22 January 2014 14:42 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to create a new template? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a recommended way to do this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > > > > > Managing Director > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 881 227 > > > > > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jan 22 17:34:36 2014 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy)) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:34:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815AC3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <67DD8AB9DB3846BB9BFDDFB06AF93E84@wyversolutions.co.uk> <83cd0667de3f961f829cda67baec37c3@server.tor.nl> <0F34FEC1764D4CD89C20C972231A6399@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815AC3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Note this is for a derived Xerte Templates, you may need to set the requires parameter in the .info to set this up. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > Cheers, nice one. The process does need improving, but it?s do-able. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mark Berthelemy > *Sent:* 22 January 2014 15:57 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > Yes, that makes sense. > > > > This is the complete set of instructions to create a new template and make > it visible to users, with a new display name. > > 1. Copy the parent_templates/Nottingham folder to a new folder in > parent_templates > 2. Change the name of the new folder to > 3. Copy the templates/Nottingham folder to a new folder in templates > 4. Change the name of the new folder to match > 5. Edit Nottingham.info in the new templates/ > 6. Change Display name to something meaningful > 7. Rename Nottingham.info to .info > 8. Go into management.php, and rescan the templates > 9. Put * into the field: The following users can access this template > 10. Edit parent_templates//css/themeStyles.css > > I?ll get this in the documentation? > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Managing Director > > Tel: 01773 881 227 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | > Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, > DE56 1AX > > > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:39, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > It's been a while that I did this myself, so ehmm yes, you need to copy > the tempaets as well. > > Setting it to active isn't always enough, you have to set access to '*' as > well (I hope that makes sense to you) > > Tom > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:29:22 +0000 Mark Berthelemy < > mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk> wrote > > Hi Tom, > > > > Thanks for that. > > > > I?ve tried to follow your instructions but have hit some problems: > > > > 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in > parent_templates > > > > So I don?t need to worry about creating anything in the templates folder > to match what?s in parent_templates? > > > 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates > > > > Did that, and my new template appears in the list on the Management pages, > but does not appear in the list available to the end user. I?ve made sure > it?s set to active, so I?m not sure what I?ve done wrong there. > > > 3. edit to you hearts content > > > > I see what you mean about maintenance - the design doesn?t appear to be > separated from the functionality, so it looks like new functionality might > be added to Nottingham that doesn?t get reflected in designs using the new > theme? > > > > Something else to add to the wish list. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Managing Director > > Tel:01773 881 227 > > Mob:07922 146 761 > > Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | > Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, > DE56 1AX > > > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > I think we should try to improve on the process. But there are other > aspects of Xerte that are more important (I think) at the moment. > > Point is, it's not hard to do: > > 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in > parent_templates > 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates > 3. edit to you hearts content > > The difficulty is the (long-term) maintenance.... > > Tom > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:42:21 +0000 Mark Berthelemy < > mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk> wrote > > Hi there, > > > > I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will > be used across all new LO?s. > > > > It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with > tweaks to brand it. > > > > Is there a recommended way to do this? > > > > I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the > relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by > the learning designers. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Managing Director > > Tel:01773 881 227 > > Mob:07922 146 761 > > Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | > Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, > DE56 1AX > > > > = > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Wed Jan 22 17:40:04 2014 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:40:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? In-Reply-To: References: <67DD8AB9DB3846BB9BFDDFB06AF93E84@wyversolutions.co.uk> <83cd0667de3f961f829cda67baec37c3@server.tor.nl> <0F34FEC1764D4CD89C20C972231A6399@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815AC3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4C416D5A18C6434089FCC2F1ADF07090@wyversolutions.co.uk> Hi Pat, You?ve lost me there? :-( Derived from what? And what might the requires parameter need to be set to? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 17:34, Pat L (pgogy) wrote: > Note this is for a derived Xerte Templates, you may need to set the requires parameter in the .info to set this up. > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Cheers, nice one. The process does need improving, but it?s do-able. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > Sent: 22 January 2014 15:57 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > Yes, that makes sense. > > > > > > > > This is the complete set of instructions to create a new template and make it visible to users, with a new display name. > > > > Copy the parent_templates/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates > > Change the name of the new folder to > > Copy the templates/Nottingham folder to a new folder in templates > > Change the name of the new folder to match > > Edit Nottingham.info (http://Nottingham.info) in the new templates/ > > Change Display name to something meaningful > > Rename Nottingham.info (http://Nottingham.info) to .info > > Go into management.php, and rescan the templates > > Put * into the field: The following users can access this template > > Edit parent_templates//css/themeStyles.css > > > > I?ll get this in the documentation? > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > Managing Director > > > > Tel: 01773 881 227 > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:39, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > > It's been a while that I did this myself, so ehmm yes, you need to copy the tempaets as well. > > > > > > Setting it to active isn't always enough, you have to set access to '*' as well (I hope that makes sense to you) > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:29:22 +0000 Mark Berthelemy wrote > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > I?ve tried to follow your instructions but have hit some problems: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates > > > > > > > > > > > > So I don?t need to worry about creating anything in the templates folder to match what?s in parent_templates? > > > > > > > > > 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates > > > > > > > > > Did that, and my new template appears in the list on the Management pages, but does not appear in the list available to the end user. I?ve made sure it?s set to active, so I?m not sure what I?ve done wrong there. > > > > > > > > > 3. edit to you hearts content > > > > > > > > > I see what you mean about maintenance - the design doesn?t appear to be separated from the functionality, so it looks like new functionality might be added to Nottingham that doesn?t get reflected in designs using the new theme? > > > > > > > > > > > > Something else to add to the wish list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > Managing Director > > > > > > Tel:01773 881 227 > > > > > > Mob:07922 146 761 > > > > > > Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > > > I think we should try to improve on the process. But there are other aspects of Xerte that are more important (I think) at the moment. > > > > > > > > Point is, it's not hard to do: > > > > > > > > 1. just copy the parent_template/Nottingham folder to a new folder in parent_templates > > > > 2. go into management.php, and rescan the templates > > > > 3. edit to you hearts content > > > > > > > > The difficulty is the (long-term) maintenance.... > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:42:21 +0000 Mark Berthelemy wrote > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a recommended way to do this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > Managing Director > > > > > > > > Tel:01773 881 227 > > > > > > > > Mob:07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > Web:www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jan 23 08:39:38 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:39:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? In-Reply-To: <32CDF96623914822BD96BB494ECDD874@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: <018801cf1785$c15cfe20$4416fa60$@co.uk> <020f01cf1791$07737e60$165a7b20$@co.uk> <89ACC20E480A4BF9BB8B9A922B327C70@wyversolutions.co.uk> <024001cf1795$ceda4250$6c8ec6f0$@co.uk> <32CDF96623914822BD96BB494ECDD874@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815B4D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> This customisation was all done by the end users, with no access to the server, and no questions to me. It is all possible ? a bit fiddly in places I grant you ? but possible. The new buttons were uploaded via media and quota and the rest is css. http://www/toolkits/play_9011 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 17:22 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Thanks Ron, Understood. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 17:17, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi Mark custom stylesheet is an optional property so what I meant was that you can include the addition of that in data.xml and the css file in the \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\media folder as though it was added to the LO whilst editing. That will apply to the Nottingham template sitewide but then users can obviously replace or remove the css file via the editor. pros and cons with each option but if the requirement is different themes for each department I'm not sure that multiple installations or multiple copies of the template are really viable long term. As others have alluded there are always areas for improvement and ideally wherever the itch is strong enough those improvements are contributed back. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 16:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Hi Ron, Forgive the basic questions, but data.xml only contains three elements. None of which are to do with CSS. Where do I find the list of elements that can be added and then tweaked? Also, when you say customise an installation, do you just mean editing parent_templates/Nottingham/css/themeStyles.css - perhaps by using @import to pull in another CSS file? That?s where I?ve ended up so far. What I?m hearing is that each department that might want its own branding on LO's needs its own installation of Xerte - because it?s easier to maintain the installations than the templates. Is that right? Or a development team, working with multiple depts will need an instance of Xerte for each dept? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 16:43, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi Mark You can make anything you want part of new LO's by tweaking \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\data.xml However it's not that simple because of also changing buttons etc and as you suspect it may not resolve the loading order. I would still suggest customising an installation rather than a copy of the template is a better long term strategy. I don't have time to detail all the reasons for that right now just my experience over many years of maintaining copies of templates and page types. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 16:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Hi Ron, It is just the interface I?m looking at. So your idea makes perfect sense. It?s what I was hoping for to be honest. Where do I find the optional properties for a main template, and the default XML? I know how to tweak CSS for each individual learning object, but not how to make it apply to every learning object. Will your solution deal with the problem whereby the new CSS is only applied after the LO has loaded with the standard CSS - so you get a flash look at the standard design first? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:22, Ron Mitchell wrote: Unless you are also talking about customising/branding the different page types too e.g. as well as the player interface, I wouldn't look at adding a new template. It can be quite time-consuming keeping subsequent changes in sync if you create a derivative template based on a particular point in time. You can add a custom css file to the main template via optional properties and you can also tweak the default xml so that the same custom xss is included in any new LO's created. The other option which in reality can be quicker and easier than the new template route is to have a separate installation for each customisation required. Just my experience. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 14:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to create a new template? Hi there, I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. Is there a recommended way to do this? I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815B4D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <018801cf1785$c15cfe20$4416fa60$@co.uk> <020f01cf1791$07737e60$165a7b20$@co.uk> <89ACC20E480A4BF9BB8B9A922B327C70@wyversolutions.co.uk> <024001cf1795$ceda4250$6c8ec6f0$@co.uk> <32CDF96623914822BD96BB494ECDD874@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815B4D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <002b01cf1819$5d631fa0$18295ee0$@co.uk> That's a strange link ;-) I guess you mean http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_9011 but that prompts for login. Using the optional stylesheet option does work out much easier if you do have access to the server files rather than uploading all the separate images via media & quota. I've done this by creating a themes folder and then subdirectories in the themes folder for each theme. Haven't really noticed the "theme flash" Mark mentioned - I guess server performance or connection speed could have an impact though. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 January 2014 08:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? This customisation was all done by the end users, with no access to the server, and no questions to me. It is all possible ? a bit fiddly in places I grant you ? but possible. The new buttons were uploaded via media and quota and the rest is css. http://www/toolkits/play_9011 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 17:22 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Thanks Ron, Understood. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 17:17, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi Mark custom stylesheet is an optional property so what I meant was that you can include the addition of that in data.xml and the css file in the \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\media folder as though it was added to the LO whilst editing. That will apply to the Nottingham template sitewide but then users can obviously replace or remove the css file via the editor. pros and cons with each option but if the requirement is different themes for each department I'm not sure that multiple installations or multiple copies of the template are really viable long term. As others have alluded there are always areas for improvement and ideally wherever the itch is strong enough those improvements are contributed back. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 16:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Hi Ron, Forgive the basic questions, but data.xml only contains three elements. None of which are to do with CSS. Where do I find the list of elements that can be added and then tweaked? Also, when you say customise an installation, do you just mean editing parent_templates/Nottingham/css/themeStyles.css - perhaps by using @import to pull in another CSS file? That?s where I?ve ended up so far. What I?m hearing is that each department that might want its own branding on LO's needs its own installation of Xerte - because it?s easier to maintain the installations than the templates. Is that right? Or a development team, working with multiple depts will need an instance of Xerte for each dept? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 16:43, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi Mark You can make anything you want part of new LO's by tweaking \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\data.xml However it's not that simple because of also changing buttons etc and as you suspect it may not resolve the loading order. I would still suggest customising an installation rather than a copy of the template is a better long term strategy. I don't have time to detail all the reasons for that right now just my experience over many years of maintaining copies of templates and page types. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 16:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Hi Ron, It is just the interface I?m looking at. So your idea makes perfect sense. It?s what I was hoping for to be honest. Where do I find the optional properties for a main template, and the default XML? I know how to tweak CSS for each individual learning object, but not how to make it apply to every learning object. Will your solution deal with the problem whereby the new CSS is only applied after the LO has loaded with the standard CSS - so you get a flash look at the standard design first? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:22, Ron Mitchell wrote: Unless you are also talking about customising/branding the different page types too e.g. as well as the player interface, I wouldn't look at adding a new template. It can be quite time-consuming keeping subsequent changes in sync if you create a derivative template based on a particular point in time. You can add a custom css file to the main template via optional properties and you can also tweak the default xml so that the same custom xss is included in any new LO's created. The other option which in reality can be quicker and easier than the new template route is to have a separate installation for each customisation required. Just my experience. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 14:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to create a new template? Hi there, I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. Is there a recommended way to do this? I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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In-Reply-To: <002b01cf1819$5d631fa0$18295ee0$@co.uk> References: <018801cf1785$c15cfe20$4416fa60$@co.uk> <020f01cf1791$07737e60$165a7b20$@co.uk> <89ACC20E480A4BF9BB8B9A922B327C70@wyversolutions.co.uk> <024001cf1795$ceda4250$6c8ec6f0$@co.uk> <32CDF96623914822BD96BB494ECDD874@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815B4D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002b01cf1819$5d631fa0$18295ee0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE8815B5F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Must wake up? Meant to post a screen shot: [cid:image001.png at 01CF1819.387F2760] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 January 2014 08:59 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? That's a strange link ;-) I guess you mean http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_9011 but that prompts for login. Using the optional stylesheet option does work out much easier if you do have access to the server files rather than uploading all the separate images via media & quota. I've done this by creating a themes folder and then subdirectories in the themes folder for each theme. Haven't really noticed the "theme flash" Mark mentioned - I guess server performance or connection speed could have an impact though. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 January 2014 08:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? This customisation was all done by the end users, with no access to the server, and no questions to me. It is all possible ? a bit fiddly in places I grant you ? but possible. The new buttons were uploaded via media and quota and the rest is css. http://www/toolkits/play_9011 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 17:22 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Thanks Ron, Understood. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 17:17, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi Mark custom stylesheet is an optional property so what I meant was that you can include the addition of that in data.xml and the css file in the \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\media folder as though it was added to the LO whilst editing. That will apply to the Nottingham template sitewide but then users can obviously replace or remove the css file via the editor. pros and cons with each option but if the requirement is different themes for each department I'm not sure that multiple installations or multiple copies of the template are really viable long term. As others have alluded there are always areas for improvement and ideally wherever the itch is strong enough those improvements are contributed back. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 16:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Hi Ron, Forgive the basic questions, but data.xml only contains three elements. None of which are to do with CSS. Where do I find the list of elements that can be added and then tweaked? Also, when you say customise an installation, do you just mean editing parent_templates/Nottingham/css/themeStyles.css - perhaps by using @import to pull in another CSS file? That?s where I?ve ended up so far. What I?m hearing is that each department that might want its own branding on LO's needs its own installation of Xerte - because it?s easier to maintain the installations than the templates. Is that right? Or a development team, working with multiple depts will need an instance of Xerte for each dept? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 16:43, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi Mark You can make anything you want part of new LO's by tweaking \modules\xerte\templates\Nottingham\data.xml However it's not that simple because of also changing buttons etc and as you suspect it may not resolve the loading order. I would still suggest customising an installation rather than a copy of the template is a better long term strategy. I don't have time to detail all the reasons for that right now just my experience over many years of maintaining copies of templates and page types. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 16:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to create a new template? Hi Ron, It is just the interface I?m looking at. So your idea makes perfect sense. It?s what I was hoping for to be honest. Where do I find the optional properties for a main template, and the default XML? I know how to tweak CSS for each individual learning object, but not how to make it apply to every learning object. Will your solution deal with the problem whereby the new CSS is only applied after the LO has loaded with the standard CSS - so you get a flash look at the standard design first? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 15:22, Ron Mitchell wrote: Unless you are also talking about customising/branding the different page types too e.g. as well as the player interface, I wouldn't look at adding a new template. It can be quite time-consuming keeping subsequent changes in sync if you create a derivative template based on a particular point in time. You can add a custom css file to the main template via optional properties and you can also tweak the default xml so that the same custom xss is included in any new LO's created. The other option which in reality can be quicker and easier than the new template route is to have a separate installation for each customisation required. Just my experience. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 22 January 2014 14:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to create a new template? Hi there, I need to create a new look and feel for Xerte learning objects that will be used across all new LO?s. It?s basically going to be the normal Nottingham HTML5 design, but with tweaks to brand it. Is there a recommended way to do this? I?m finding it hard to work out which bits of the code-base hold the relevant CSS, and then how to add a new ?template(?)? so it can be used by the learning designers. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Managing Director Tel: 01773 881 227 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk Wyver Solutions Ltd | Company number: 5731173 Registered in England | Registered address: First Floor, 6 Bridge Street, Belper, Derbyshire, DE56 1AX This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 417671 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jan 24 15:20:05 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:20:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Properties from Management Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE881633C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Should it be the case that I can always change project's properties from the management page? I'm getting [cid:image001.png at 01CF1917.C2BFDDD0] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 50893 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jan 24 15:56:04 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:56:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Properties from Management Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE881637A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> BTW, this might be a FF issue and related to the funny sessions thing, as it worked first time in Chrome. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 24 January 2014 15:20 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Properties from Management Should it be the case that I can always change project's properties from the management page? I'm getting [cid:image001.png at 01CF191C.C966F420] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 50893 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Jan 24 16:20:07 2014 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:20:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Properties from Management In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE881637A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE881637A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <52E292B7.6020809@tor.nl> I think so, and here it doesn't work at all. Julian Tenney schreef op 24-1-2014 16:56: > > BTW, this might be a FF issue and related to the funny sessions thing, > as it worked first time in Chrome. > > *From:*Tenney Julian > *Sent:* 24 January 2014 15:20 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* Properties from Management > > Should it be the case that I can always change project's properties > from the management page? I'm getting > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I just used to use different browsers On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I think so, and here it doesn't work at all. > > Julian Tenney schreef op 24-1-2014 16:56: > > BTW, this might be a FF issue and related to the funny sessions thing, > as it worked first time in Chrome. > > > > *From:* Tenney Julian > *Sent:* 24 January 2014 15:20 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* Properties from Management > > > > Should it be the case that I can always change project?s properties from > the management page? I?m getting > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing listXerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 50893 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jan 27 09:57:51 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 09:57:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Properties from Management In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE881637A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <52E292B7.6020809@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE89A3EC6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> No, I tried that, logged in and out as me and as admin several times and could not get it to work in FF at all. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 24 January 2014 16:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Properties from Management if you don't log out, and go to management, it'll think you are still you, rather than admin. I just used to use different browsers On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: I think so, and here it doesn't work at all. Julian Tenney schreef op 24-1-2014 16:56: BTW, this might be a FF issue and related to the funny sessions thing, as it worked first time in Chrome. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 24 January 2014 15:20 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Properties from Management Should it be the case that I can always change project's properties from the management page? I'm getting [cid:image001.png at 01CF1B46.3E030640] _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 50893 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jan 29 13:17:06 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:17:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Data Loss: Any idea? Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE89A49F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I have a user who reports having 29 pages in an LO when she last closed it, now there are only 17. The file is a complete xml file with opening / closing tags intact, and doesn't appear to be a fragment, or to be cut off in the middle. The XML passes the W3C validator. Any idea what could have happened to cause the pages to get lost? This is a more advanced user, and the LO has some custom mark up in I (which I did) but I didn't experience any issues building the templates. Every other data loss situation I have come across has been with a file that just ends somewhere in the middle. I've never seen a fully intact xml file and have the user report lost data before. I'm at a bit of a loss really. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Jan 29 13:43:39 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:43:39 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Data Loss: Any idea? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE89A49F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE89A49F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <008401cf1cf8$1ecca930$5c65fb90$@co.uk> Were you able to compare preview.xml and data.xml? Is it defintely the same LO or could it me an older copy? Anythng in the recycle bin of the same name? As you say everytime I've seen this it's also been because the xml has been broken - never that whole pages have dissapeared without the xml being broken. Sometimes it's been possible to recover the lo by removing the broken preview.xml and replacing with a copy of data.xml or manually closing the broken section. I can't see how it's possible to lose pages without the xml being broken but sounds like it is? A while back Alistair was having regular problems with broken xml and in the end it seemed to be due to broadband connection problems. Any automated server backups? Indeed could someone have overwritten the later version during a restore? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 January 2014 13:17 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Data Loss: Any idea? I have a user who reports having 29 pages in an LO when she last closed it, now there are only 17. The file is a complete xml file with opening / closing tags intact, and doesn't appear to be a fragment, or to be cut off in the middle. The XML passes the W3C validator. Any idea what could have happened to cause the pages to get lost? This is a more advanced user, and the LO has some custom mark up in I (which I did) but I didn't experience any issues building the templates. Every other data loss situation I have come across has been with a file that just ends somewhere in the middle. I've never seen a fully intact xml file and have the user report lost data before. I'm at a bit of a loss really. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jan 29 14:06:24 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:06:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Data Loss: Any idea? In-Reply-To: <008401cf1cf8$1ecca930$5c65fb90$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE89A49F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008401cf1cf8$1ecca930$5c65fb90$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE89A4A31@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Both files are the same, both look legit. I can't see how it's possible to lose data and have both closing tags intact either. This has made me suspect the liveware... I always wonder about the liveware, but in this case I don't think it's the culprit. I have been surprised before though ;-) We've not done anything on the server since this project started. I will check systems haven't done anything. Cheers, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 January 2014 13:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Data Loss: Any idea? Were you able to compare preview.xml and data.xml? Is it defintely the same LO or could it me an older copy? Anythng in the recycle bin of the same name? As you say everytime I've seen this it's also been because the xml has been broken - never that whole pages have dissapeared without the xml being broken. Sometimes it's been possible to recover the lo by removing the broken preview.xml and replacing with a copy of data.xml or manually closing the broken section. I can't see how it's possible to lose pages without the xml being broken but sounds like it is? A while back Alistair was having regular problems with broken xml and in the end it seemed to be due to broadband connection problems. Any automated server backups? Indeed could someone have overwritten the later version during a restore? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 January 2014 13:17 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Data Loss: Any idea? I have a user who reports having 29 pages in an LO when she last closed it, now there are only 17. The file is a complete xml file with opening / closing tags intact, and doesn't appear to be a fragment, or to be cut off in the middle. The XML passes the W3C validator. Any idea what could have happened to cause the pages to get lost? This is a more advanced user, and the LO has some custom mark up in I (which I did) but I didn't experience any issues building the templates. Every other data loss situation I have come across has been with a file that just ends somewhere in the middle. I've never seen a fully intact xml file and have the user report lost data before. I'm at a bit of a loss really. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jan 29 14:17:50 2014 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy)) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:17:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Data Loss: Any idea? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE89A4A31@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE89A49F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008401cf1cf8$1ecca930$5c65fb90$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CE89A4A31@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The save code compares string lengths as well, so it might be possible the file saves fine, but then confuses itself on opening and omits nodes? On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > Both files are the same, both look legit. I can't see how it's possible to > lose data and have both closing tags intact either. This > has made me suspect the liveware... I always wonder about the liveware, but > in this case I don't think it's the culprit. I have been surprised before > though ;-) > > > > We've not done anything on the server since this project started. I will > check systems haven't done anything. > > > > Cheers, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 January 2014 13:44 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Data Loss: Any idea? > > > > Were you able to compare preview.xml and data.xml? > > Is it defintely the same LO or could it me an older copy? > > Anythng in the recycle bin of the same name? > > > > As you say everytime I've seen this it's also been because the xml has > been broken - never that whole pages have dissapeared without the xml being > broken. Sometimes it's been possible to recover the lo by removing the > broken preview.xml and replacing with a copy of data.xml or manually > closing the broken section. I can't see how it's possible to lose pages > without the xml being broken but sounds like it is? > > > > A while back Alistair was having regular problems with broken xml and in > the end it seemed to be due to broadband connection problems. > > > > Any automated server backups? Indeed could someone have overwritten the > later version during a restore? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 29 January 2014 13:17 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Data Loss: Any idea? > > > > I have a user who reports having 29 pages in an LO when she last closed > it, now there are only 17. > > > > The file is a complete xml file with opening / closing > tags intact, and doesn't appear to be a fragment, or to be cut off in the > middle. The XML passes the W3C validator. > > > > Any idea what could have happened to cause the pages to get lost? This is > a more advanced user, and the LO has some custom mark up in I (which I did) > but I didn't experience any issues building the templates. Every other data > loss situation I have come across has been with a file that just ends > somewhere in the middle. I've never seen a fully intact xml file and have > the user report lost data before. > > > > I'm at a bit of a loss really. > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 29 January 2014 14:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Data Loss: Any idea? The save code compares string lengths as well, so it might be possible the file saves fine, but then confuses itself on opening and omits nodes? On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: Both files are the same, both look legit. I can't see how it's possible to lose data and have both closing tags intact either. This has made me suspect the liveware... I always wonder about the liveware, but in this case I don't think it's the culprit. I have been surprised before though ;-) We've not done anything on the server since this project started. I will check systems haven't done anything. Cheers, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 January 2014 13:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Data Loss: Any idea? Were you able to compare preview.xml and data.xml? Is it defintely the same LO or could it me an older copy? Anythng in the recycle bin of the same name? As you say everytime I've seen this it's also been because the xml has been broken - never that whole pages have dissapeared without the xml being broken. Sometimes it's been possible to recover the lo by removing the broken preview.xml and replacing with a copy of data.xml or manually closing the broken section. I can't see how it's possible to lose pages without the xml being broken but sounds like it is? A while back Alistair was having regular problems with broken xml and in the end it seemed to be due to broadband connection problems. Any automated server backups? Indeed could someone have overwritten the later version during a restore? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 January 2014 13:17 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Data Loss: Any idea? I have a user who reports having 29 pages in an LO when she last closed it, now there are only 17. The file is a complete xml file with opening / closing tags intact, and doesn't appear to be a fragment, or to be cut off in the middle. The XML passes the W3C validator. Any idea what could have happened to cause the pages to get lost? This is a more advanced user, and the LO has some custom mark up in I (which I did) but I didn't experience any issues building the templates. Every other data loss situation I have come across has been with a file that just ends somewhere in the middle. 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