From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Thu Apr  3 14:52:22 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 14:52:22 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] testing results
Message-ID: <00dd01cf4f43$f130e3f0$d392abd0$@co.uk>

Hi all

I'm sending this to the dev list but I posted a completely separate message
this morning which still doesn't seem to have got through so sending this
bcc to Julian too because it's partly due to some testing due to an issue
reported about re-running setup breaking an install.

 

I've done some testing (via xampp for now) and as previously when there have
been multiple contributions over a period of time it's a bit scary! (But not
because of the setup question)

 

I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site. (BTW Tom the unstable download doesn't seem to work?) 

Also I downloaded from the community site because that's the most likely
place from where the community will download rather than direct from git.

 

Installed on xampp using the xampp option tested creation of a quick lo then
revisited setup and get the following message: 

 



So if xampp quick install option chosen doesn't seem possible to overwrite
db by revisiting setup with this revision which is obviously a good thing.

 

Repeated the process with full install option and same result e.g.
revisiting setup prompts that the install already exists.

 

Obviously deleting database.php means that setup can be re-run.

 

So not sure how someone was able to break a working install via setup if the
version installed included this detection.

 

But the scary bit is that it seems from my testing that this revision is not
reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of
two errors when trying to create a new lo:

Session ID not set

or

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

 

Does this not happen for others?

 

Ron

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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Thu Apr  3 10:15:03 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 10:15:03 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] exporting
Message-ID: <006601cf4f1d$3384f0b0$9a8ed210$@co.uk>

Hi all

hope all is well - sorry been busy with other things for a while now. But
two quick questions.

 

1. I noticed in a recent export shared by Alistair that inside the zip
there's a file named  exampe_zipper_xyz. Was this part of testing at some
point and removed from a more recent revision or does it happen with exports
from the current code too?

 

2. Do I recall some discussion previously about enabling exporting of
Bootstrap projects? Even if there are challenges with this for playing
locally it would be useful to enable exporting and importing into another
install but not sure how easy that is to enable?

 

Cheers

Ron

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From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com  Thu Apr  3 17:33:30 2014
From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 17:33:30 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
In-Reply-To: <00dd01cf4f43$f130e3f0$d392abd0$@co.uk>
References: <00dd01cf4f43$f130e3f0$d392abd0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAO2PinNuMaFzXf+H=FZumyBk-Q-w7WksNo-p9W_o8OaXpP7T5Q@mail.gmail.com>

what if you hit a later page though - one of the other setup php folders?

Also what drop table commands are in the sql file?


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I'm sending this to the dev list but I posted a completely separate
> message this morning which still doesn't seem to have got through so
> sending this bcc to Julian too because it's partly due to some testing due
> to an issue reported about re-running setup breaking an install.
>
>
>
> I've done some testing (via xampp for now) and as previously when there
> have been multiple contributions over a period of time it's a bit scary!
> (But not because of the setup question)
>
>
>
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from
> the community site. (BTW Tom the unstable download doesn't seem to work?)
>
> Also I downloaded from the community site because that's the most likely
> place from where the community will download rather than direct from git.
>
>
>
> Installed on xampp using the xampp option tested creation of a quick lo
> then revisited setup and get the following message:
>
>
>
> So if xampp quick install option chosen doesn't seem possible to overwrite
> db by revisiting setup with this revision which is obviously a good thing.
>
>
>
> Repeated the process with full install option and same result e.g.
> revisiting setup prompts that the install already exists.
>
>
>
> Obviously deleting database.php means that setup can be re-run.
>
>
>
> So not sure how someone was able to break a working install via setup if
> the version installed included this detection.
>
>
>
> But the scary bit is that it seems from my testing that this revision is
> not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get
> one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
>
> Session ID not set
>
> or
>
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
>
>
> Does this not happen for others?
>
>
>
> Ron
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xerte-dev mailing list
> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev
>
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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Thu Apr  3 18:08:54 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 18:08:54 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
References: <00dd01cf4f43$f130e3f0$d392abd0$@co.uk>
	<CAO2PinNuMaFzXf+H=FZumyBk-Q-w7WksNo-p9W_o8OaXpP7T5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <015e01cf4f5f$65b1eb00$3115c100$@co.uk>

Also have the list settings changed? Just replied and hit send and noticed
the reply when direct to Pat as well as the list and I hadn't selected reply
to all.

 

From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] 
Sent: 03 April 2014 18:07
To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

 

My understanding is that this was accidental rather than deliberate (might
be wrong about that) and the page shown if an installation exists doesn't
contain any links. Obviously the general guidance is to remove or at least
rename the setup folder after installation. I know things should perhaps be
more robust that that but I can't see how this was accidental really.

 

Having tested this I'm more concerned about the session errors but not sure
after what revision these were introduced.

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 03 April 2014 17:34
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

 

what if you hit a later page though - one of the other setup php folders?

Also what drop table commands are in the sql file?

 

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:

Hi all

I'm sending this to the dev list but I posted a completely separate message
this morning which still doesn't seem to have got through so sending this
bcc to Julian too because it's partly due to some testing due to an issue
reported about re-running setup breaking an install.

 

I've done some testing (via xampp for now) and as previously when there have
been multiple contributions over a period of time it's a bit scary! (But not
because of the setup question)

 

I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site. (BTW Tom the unstable download doesn't seem to work?) 

Also I downloaded from the community site because that's the most likely
place from where the community will download rather than direct from git.

 

Installed on xampp using the xampp option tested creation of a quick lo then
revisited setup and get the following message: 

 



So if xampp quick install option chosen doesn't seem possible to overwrite
db by revisiting setup with this revision which is obviously a good thing.

 

Repeated the process with full install option and same result e.g.
revisiting setup prompts that the install already exists.

 

Obviously deleting database.php means that setup can be re-run.

 

So not sure how someone was able to break a working install via setup if the
version installed included this detection.

 

But the scary bit is that it seems from my testing that this revision is not
reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of
two errors when trying to create a new lo:

Session ID not set

or

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

 

Does this not happen for others?

 

Ron


_______________________________________________
Xerte-dev mailing list
Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev

 

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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Thu Apr  3 18:07:16 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 18:07:16 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
In-Reply-To: <CAO2PinNuMaFzXf+H=FZumyBk-Q-w7WksNo-p9W_o8OaXpP7T5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00dd01cf4f43$f130e3f0$d392abd0$@co.uk>
	<CAO2PinNuMaFzXf+H=FZumyBk-Q-w7WksNo-p9W_o8OaXpP7T5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <015801cf4f5f$2b7d40b0$8277c210$@co.uk>

My understanding is that this was accidental rather than deliberate (might
be wrong about that) and the page shown if an installation exists doesn't
contain any links. Obviously the general guidance is to remove or at least
rename the setup folder after installation. I know things should perhaps be
more robust that that but I can't see how this was accidental really.

 

Having tested this I'm more concerned about the session errors but not sure
after what revision these were introduced.

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 03 April 2014 17:34
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

 

what if you hit a later page though - one of the other setup php folders?

Also what drop table commands are in the sql file?

 

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:

Hi all

I'm sending this to the dev list but I posted a completely separate message
this morning which still doesn't seem to have got through so sending this
bcc to Julian too because it's partly due to some testing due to an issue
reported about re-running setup breaking an install.

 

I've done some testing (via xampp for now) and as previously when there have
been multiple contributions over a period of time it's a bit scary! (But not
because of the setup question)

 

I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site. (BTW Tom the unstable download doesn't seem to work?) 

Also I downloaded from the community site because that's the most likely
place from where the community will download rather than direct from git.

 

Installed on xampp using the xampp option tested creation of a quick lo then
revisited setup and get the following message: 

 



So if xampp quick install option chosen doesn't seem possible to overwrite
db by revisiting setup with this revision which is obviously a good thing.

 

Repeated the process with full install option and same result e.g.
revisiting setup prompts that the install already exists.

 

Obviously deleting database.php means that setup can be re-run.

 

So not sure how someone was able to break a working install via setup if the
version installed included this detection.

 

But the scary bit is that it seems from my testing that this revision is not
reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of
two errors when trying to create a new lo:

Session ID not set

or

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

 

Does this not happen for others?

 

Ron


_______________________________________________
Xerte-dev mailing list
Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev

 

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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Fri Apr  4 09:26:55 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:26:55 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
In-Reply-To: <015e01cf4f5f$65b1eb00$3115c100$@co.uk>
References: <00dd01cf4f43$f130e3f0$d392abd0$@co.uk>
	<CAO2PinNuMaFzXf+H=FZumyBk-Q-w7WksNo-p9W_o8OaXpP7T5Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<015e01cf4f5f$65b1eb00$3115c100$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA6F95@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>

Shouldn't have.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 03 April 2014 18:09
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

Also have the list settings changed? Just replied and hit send and noticed the reply when direct to Pat as well as the list and I hadn't selected reply to all.

From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 03 April 2014 18:07
To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

My understanding is that this was accidental rather than deliberate (might be wrong about that) and the page shown if an installation exists doesn't contain any links. Obviously the general guidance is to remove or at least rename the setup folder after installation. I know things should perhaps be more robust that that but I can't see how this was accidental really.

Having tested this I'm more concerned about the session errors but not sure after what revision these were introduced.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 03 April 2014 17:34
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

what if you hit a later page though - one of the other setup php folders?

Also what drop table commands are in the sql file?

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi all
I'm sending this to the dev list but I posted a completely separate message this morning which still doesn't seem to have got through so sending this bcc to Julian too because it's partly due to some testing due to an issue reported about re-running setup breaking an install.

I've done some testing (via xampp for now) and as previously when there have been multiple contributions over a period of time it's a bit scary! (But not because of the setup question)

I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site. (BTW Tom the unstable download doesn't seem to work?)
Also I downloaded from the community site because that's the most likely place from where the community will download rather than direct from git.

Installed on xampp using the xampp option tested creation of a quick lo then revisited setup and get the following message:

[cid:image001.jpg at 01CF4FE8.05720840]
So if xampp quick install option chosen doesn't seem possible to overwrite db by revisiting setup with this revision which is obviously a good thing.

Repeated the process with full install option and same result e.g. revisiting setup prompts that the install already exists.

Obviously deleting database.php means that setup can be re-run.

So not sure how someone was able to break a working install via setup if the version installed included this detection.

But the scary bit is that it seems from my testing that this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Does this not happen for others?

Ron

_______________________________________________
Xerte-dev mailing list
Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Fri Apr  4 09:48:36 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:48:36 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA6F95@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <00dd01cf4f43$f130e3f0$d392abd0$@co.uk>
	<CAO2PinNuMaFzXf+H=FZumyBk-Q-w7WksNo-p9W_o8OaXpP7T5Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<015e01cf4f5f$65b1eb00$3115c100$@co.uk>,
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA6F95@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF3E@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>

I've notice that before... it's done it for ages, with Pat anyway...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 04 April 2014 09:26
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

Shouldn?t have.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 03 April 2014 18:09
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

Also have the list settings changed? Just replied and hit send and noticed the reply when direct to Pat as well as the list and I hadn't selected reply to all.

From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 03 April 2014 18:07
To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

My understanding is that this was accidental rather than deliberate (might be wrong about that) and the page shown if an installation exists doesn't contain any links. Obviously the general guidance is to remove or at least rename the setup folder after installation. I know things should perhaps be more robust that that but I can't see how this was accidental really.

Having tested this I'm more concerned about the session errors but not sure after what revision these were introduced.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 03 April 2014 17:34
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

what if you hit a later page though - one of the other setup php folders?

Also what drop table commands are in the sql file?

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi all
I'm sending this to the dev list but I posted a completely separate message this morning which still doesn't seem to have got through so sending this bcc to Julian too because it's partly due to some testing due to an issue reported about re-running setup breaking an install.

I've done some testing (via xampp for now) and as previously when there have been multiple contributions over a period of time it's a bit scary! (But not because of the setup question)

I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site. (BTW Tom the unstable download doesn't seem to work?)
Also I downloaded from the community site because that's the most likely place from where the community will download rather than direct from git.

Installed on xampp using the xampp option tested creation of a quick lo then revisited setup and get the following message:

[cid:image001.jpg at 01CF4FE8.05720840]
So if xampp quick install option chosen doesn't seem possible to overwrite db by revisiting setup with this revision which is obviously a good thing.

Repeated the process with full install option and same result e.g. revisiting setup prompts that the install already exists.

Obviously deleting database.php means that setup can be re-run.

So not sure how someone was able to break a working install via setup if the version installed included this detection.

But the scary bit is that it seems from my testing that this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Does this not happen for others?

Ron

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From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com  Fri Apr  4 10:17:23 2014
From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 10:17:23 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
In-Reply-To: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF3E@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
References: <00dd01cf4f43$f130e3f0$d392abd0$@co.uk>
	<CAO2PinNuMaFzXf+H=FZumyBk-Q-w7WksNo-p9W_o8OaXpP7T5Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<015e01cf4f5f$65b1eb00$3115c100$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA6F95@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF3E@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAO2PinOFU88uogSRBCO=rLkYuWv2tT-pLN2D3USEdkC4SzXQvA@mail.gmail.com>

I use a gmail proxy for this account (so maybe I get sent of behalf of
stuff?)

Had no email from John though


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

> I've notice that before... it's done it for ages, with Pat anyway...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University
> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 04 April 2014 09:26
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
>
> Shouldn't have.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 03 April 2014 18:09
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
>
> Also have the list settings changed? Just replied and hit send and noticed
> the reply when direct to Pat as well as the list and I hadn't selected
> reply to all.
>
> From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 03 April 2014 18:07
> To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com'; 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
>
> My understanding is that this was accidental rather than deliberate (might
> be wrong about that) and the page shown if an installation exists doesn't
> contain any links. Obviously the general guidance is to remove or at least
> rename the setup folder after installation. I know things should perhaps be
> more robust that that but I can't see how this was accidental really.
>
> Having tested this I'm more concerned about the session errors but not
> sure after what revision these were introduced.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
> Sent: 03 April 2014 17:34
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
>
> what if you hit a later page though - one of the other setup php folders?
>
> Also what drop table commands are in the sql file?
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
> <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> wrote:
> Hi all
> I'm sending this to the dev list but I posted a completely separate
> message this morning which still doesn't seem to have got through so
> sending this bcc to Julian too because it's partly due to some testing due
> to an issue reported about re-running setup breaking an install.
>
> I've done some testing (via xampp for now) and as previously when there
> have been multiple contributions over a period of time it's a bit scary!
> (But not because of the setup question)
>
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from
> the community site. (BTW Tom the unstable download doesn't seem to work?)
> Also I downloaded from the community site because that's the most likely
> place from where the community will download rather than direct from git.
>
> Installed on xampp using the xampp option tested creation of a quick lo
> then revisited setup and get the following message:
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01CF4FE8.05720840]
> So if xampp quick install option chosen doesn't seem possible to overwrite
> db by revisiting setup with this revision which is obviously a good thing.
>
> Repeated the process with full install option and same result e.g.
> revisiting setup prompts that the install already exists.
>
> Obviously deleting database.php means that setup can be re-run.
>
> So not sure how someone was able to break a working install via setup if
> the version installed included this detection.
>
> But the scary bit is that it seems from my testing that this revision is
> not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get
> one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
> Session ID not set
> or
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Does this not happen for others?
>
> Ron
>
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>
>
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> SC021474
>
> Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the
> Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009.
>
> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html
>
> Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career
> Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland
> partners.
>
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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Fri Apr  4 10:29:08 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 10:29:08 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
In-Reply-To: <CAO2PinOFU88uogSRBCO=rLkYuWv2tT-pLN2D3USEdkC4SzXQvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00dd01cf4f43$f130e3f0$d392abd0$@co.uk>
	<CAO2PinNuMaFzXf+H=FZumyBk-Q-w7WksNo-p9W_o8OaXpP7T5Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<015e01cf4f5f$65b1eb00$3115c100$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA6F95@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF3E@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>,
	<CAO2PinOFU88uogSRBCO=rLkYuWv2tT-pLN2D3USEdkC4SzXQvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF40@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>

It's only when a reply is sent to you Pat. Like this...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com]
Sent: 04 April 2014 10:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

I use a gmail proxy for this account (so maybe I get sent of behalf of stuff?)

Had no email from John though


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>> wrote:
I've notice that before... it's done it for ages, with Pat anyway...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 04 April 2014 09:26
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

Shouldn?t have.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 03 April 2014 18:09
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

Also have the list settings changed? Just replied and hit send and noticed the reply when direct to Pat as well as the list and I hadn't selected reply to all.

From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>]
Sent: 03 April 2014 18:07
To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com<mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>'; 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

My understanding is that this was accidental rather than deliberate (might be wrong about that) and the page shown if an installation exists doesn't contain any links. Obviously the general guidance is to remove or at least rename the setup folder after installation. I know things should perhaps be more robust that that but I can't see how this was accidental really.

Having tested this I'm more concerned about the session errors but not sure after what revision these were introduced.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 03 April 2014 17:34
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

what if you hit a later page though - one of the other setup php folders?

Also what drop table commands are in the sql file?

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk><mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>>> wrote:
Hi all
I'm sending this to the dev list but I posted a completely separate message this morning which still doesn't seem to have got through so sending this bcc to Julian too because it's partly due to some testing due to an issue reported about re-running setup breaking an install.

I've done some testing (via xampp for now) and as previously when there have been multiple contributions over a period of time it's a bit scary! (But not because of the setup question)

I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site. (BTW Tom the unstable download doesn't seem to work?)
Also I downloaded from the community site because that's the most likely place from where the community will download rather than direct from git.

Installed on xampp using the xampp option tested creation of a quick lo then revisited setup and get the following message:

[cid:image001.jpg at 01CF4FE8.05720840]
So if xampp quick install option chosen doesn't seem possible to overwrite db by revisiting setup with this revision which is obviously a good thing.

Repeated the process with full install option and same result e.g. revisiting setup prompts that the install already exists.

Obviously deleting database.php means that setup can be re-run.

So not sure how someone was able to break a working install via setup if the version installed included this detection.

But the scary bit is that it seems from my testing that this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Does this not happen for others?

Ron

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From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com  Fri Apr  4 11:06:10 2014
From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 11:06:10 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
In-Reply-To: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF40@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
References: <00dd01cf4f43$f130e3f0$d392abd0$@co.uk>
	<CAO2PinNuMaFzXf+H=FZumyBk-Q-w7WksNo-p9W_o8OaXpP7T5Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<015e01cf4f5f$65b1eb00$3115c100$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA6F95@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF3E@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
	<CAO2PinOFU88uogSRBCO=rLkYuWv2tT-pLN2D3USEdkC4SzXQvA@mail.gmail.com>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF40@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAO2PinMqxPVz=x1+E6BxOW=FmNU9y8_dKJ9RS7cTtC-Sc9qs4w@mail.gmail.com>

Because my email account for this list has xerte in the name?


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

> It's only when a reply is sent to you Pat. Like this...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University
> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) [
> xerte at pgogywebstuff.com]
> Sent: 04 April 2014 10:17
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
>
> I use a gmail proxy for this account (so maybe I get sent of behalf of
> stuff?)
>
> Had no email from John though
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:
> J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>> wrote:
> I've notice that before... it's done it for ages, with Pat anyway...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University
> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
> Sent: 04 April 2014 09:26
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
>
> Shouldn't have.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 03 April 2014 18:09
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
>
> Also have the list settings changed? Just replied and hit send and noticed
> the reply when direct to Pat as well as the list and I hadn't selected
> reply to all.
>
> From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:
> ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>]
> Sent: 03 April 2014 18:07
> To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com<mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>'; 'For Xerte
> technical developers'
> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
>
> My understanding is that this was accidental rather than deliberate (might
> be wrong about that) and the page shown if an installation exists doesn't
> contain any links. Obviously the general guidance is to remove or at least
> rename the setup folder after installation. I know things should perhaps be
> more robust that that but I can't see how this was accidental really.
>
> Having tested this I'm more concerned about the session errors but not
> sure after what revision these were introduced.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
> Sent: 03 April 2014 17:34
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
>
> what if you hit a later page though - one of the other setup php folders?
>
> Also what drop table commands are in the sql file?
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
> <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk><mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:
> ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>>> wrote:
> Hi all
> I'm sending this to the dev list but I posted a completely separate
> message this morning which still doesn't seem to have got through so
> sending this bcc to Julian too because it's partly due to some testing due
> to an issue reported about re-running setup breaking an install.
>
> I've done some testing (via xampp for now) and as previously when there
> have been multiple contributions over a period of time it's a bit scary!
> (But not because of the setup question)
>
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from
> the community site. (BTW Tom the unstable download doesn't seem to work?)
> Also I downloaded from the community site because that's the most likely
> place from where the community will download rather than direct from git.
>
> Installed on xampp using the xampp option tested creation of a quick lo
> then revisited setup and get the following message:
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01CF4FE8.05720840]
> So if xampp quick install option chosen doesn't seem possible to overwrite
> db by revisiting setup with this revision which is obviously a good thing.
>
> Repeated the process with full install option and same result e.g.
> revisiting setup prompts that the install already exists.
>
> Obviously deleting database.php means that setup can be re-run.
>
> So not sure how someone was able to break a working install via setup if
> the version installed included this detection.
>
> But the scary bit is that it seems from my testing that this revision is
> not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get
> one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
> Session ID not set
> or
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Does this not happen for others?
>
> Ron
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xerte-dev mailing list
> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> ><mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev
>
>
> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number
> SC021474
>
> Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the
> Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009.
>
> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html
>
> Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career
> Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland
> partners.
>
> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html
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> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham.
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>
>
>
> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number
> SC021474
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> Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the
> Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009.
>
> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html
>
> Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career
> Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland
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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Fri Apr  4 12:48:51 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 12:48:51 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results
In-Reply-To: <CAO2PinMqxPVz=x1+E6BxOW=FmNU9y8_dKJ9RS7cTtC-Sc9qs4w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<015e01cf4f5f$65b1eb00$3115c100$@co.uk>
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	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF3E@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
	<CAO2PinOFU88uogSRBCO=rLkYuWv2tT-pLN2D3USEdkC4SzXQvA@mail.gmail.com>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF40@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>,
	<CAO2PinMqxPVz=x1+E6BxOW=FmNU9y8_dKJ9RS7cTtC-Sc9qs4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF48@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>

No idea... perhaps your email client puts your email in the reply-to field in the header...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com]
Sent: 04 April 2014 11:06
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

Because my email account for this list has xerte in the name?


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>> wrote:
It's only when a reply is sent to you Pat. Like this...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com<mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>]
Sent: 04 April 2014 10:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

I use a gmail proxy for this account (so maybe I get sent of behalf of stuff?)

Had no email from John though


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk><mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>>> wrote:
I've notice that before... it's done it for ages, with Pat anyway...

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Sent: 04 April 2014 09:26
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

Shouldn?t have.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 03 April 2014 18:09
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

Also have the list settings changed? Just replied and hit send and noticed the reply when direct to Pat as well as the list and I hadn't selected reply to all.

From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk><mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>>]
Sent: 03 April 2014 18:07
To: 'xerte at pgogywebstuff.com<mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com><mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com<mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>>'; 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

My understanding is that this was accidental rather than deliberate (might be wrong about that) and the page shown if an installation exists doesn't contain any links. Obviously the general guidance is to remove or at least rename the setup folder after installation. I know things should perhaps be more robust that that but I can't see how this was accidental really.

Having tested this I'm more concerned about the session errors but not sure after what revision these were introduced.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>><mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 03 April 2014 17:34
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: testing results

what if you hit a later page though - one of the other setup php folders?

Also what drop table commands are in the sql file?

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk><mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>><mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk><mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>>>> wrote:
Hi all
I'm sending this to the dev list but I posted a completely separate message this morning which still doesn't seem to have got through so sending this bcc to Julian too because it's partly due to some testing due to an issue reported about re-running setup breaking an install.

I've done some testing (via xampp for now) and as previously when there have been multiple contributions over a period of time it's a bit scary! (But not because of the setup question)

I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site. (BTW Tom the unstable download doesn't seem to work?)
Also I downloaded from the community site because that's the most likely place from where the community will download rather than direct from git.

Installed on xampp using the xampp option tested creation of a quick lo then revisited setup and get the following message:

[cid:image001.jpg at 01CF4FE8.05720840]
So if xampp quick install option chosen doesn't seem possible to overwrite db by revisiting setup with this revision which is obviously a good thing.

Repeated the process with full install option and same result e.g. revisiting setup prompts that the install already exists.

Obviously deleting database.php means that setup can be re-run.

So not sure how someone was able to break a working install via setup if the version installed included this detection.

But the scary bit is that it seems from my testing that this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Does this not happen for others?

Ron

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From reijnders at tor.nl  Fri Apr  4 15:47:18 2014
From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 16:47:18 +0200
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Login box disappearing
Message-ID: <533EC5F6.6030900@tor.nl>

Guys,

On the forum there are two people complaining that the login box 
disappears after some minutes.

See 
http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=2&id=255&Itemid=530&lang=nl#1534

Any adeas?

Tom

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From reijnders at tor.nl  Fri Apr  4 15:51:44 2014
From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 16:51:44 +0200
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Unstable .zip not working on community website
Message-ID: <533EC700.2020305@tor.nl>

L.S.,

Ron mentioned in another message, that the unstable .zip no longer works.

It is caused by the addition of JSmol library by nmiran a month ago.

This adds a whopping 186 Mb to the installation, and the .zip file is 
too large to be uploaded to the community website because of php 
constraints.  I'll fix that, but I also would like to know whether 
everything in the JmolViewer folder is needed at runtime? Can I skip 
folders?


Regards,

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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Fri Apr  4 15:58:59 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 15:58:59 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Login box disappearing
In-Reply-To: <533EC5F6.6030900@tor.nl>
References: <533EC5F6.6030900@tor.nl>
Message-ID: <007501cf5016$69f525d0$3ddf7170$@co.uk>

I can try to replicate Tom but have posted to the forum asking what
authentication method is being used. Do you know?
May be irrelevant but may not?

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 04 April 2014 15:47
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Login box disappearing

Guys,

On the forum there are two people complaining that the login box disappears
after some minutes.

See
http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=2&id=25
5&Itemid=530&lang=nl#1534

Any adeas?

Tom

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From reijnders at tor.nl  Fri Apr  4 15:59:22 2014
From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 16:59:22 +0200
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Login box disappearing
In-Reply-To: <007501cf5016$69f525d0$3ddf7170$@co.uk>
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No I don't. Good question though.

Tom

Ron Mitchell schreef op 4-4-2014 16:58:
> I can try to replicate Tom but have posted to the forum asking what
> authentication method is being used. Do you know?
> May be irrelevant but may not?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 04 April 2014 15:47
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Login box disappearing
>
> Guys,
>
> On the forum there are two people complaining that the login box disappears
> after some minutes.
>
> See
> http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=2&id=25
> 5&Itemid=530&lang=nl#1534
>
> Any adeas?
>
> Tom
>
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From Nikodem.Miranowicz at nottingham.ac.uk  Fri Apr  4 16:01:34 2014
From: Nikodem.Miranowicz at nottingham.ac.uk (Nikodem Miranowicz)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:01:34 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Unstable .zip not working on community website
In-Reply-To: <533EC700.2020305@tor.nl>
References: <533EC700.2020305@tor.nl>
Message-ID: <6731C96EB320BD49B490F66C7836065131165419EE@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>

Thanks Tom for pointing this out. I must admit that I had my reservations before adding this huge JSmol library. I'll look into this next week and if it 'll be possible to reduce the number supporting of files I'll let you know.

Cheers

Niko

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 04 April 2014 15:52
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Unstable .zip not working on community website

L.S.,

Ron mentioned in another message, that the unstable .zip no longer works.

It is caused by the addition of JSmol library by nmiran a month ago.

This adds a whopping 186 Mb to the installation, and the .zip file is too large to be uploaded to the community website because of php constraints.  I'll fix that, but I also would like to know whether everything in the JmolViewer folder is needed at runtime? Can I skip folders?


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Tom




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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Fri Apr  4 16:06:04 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:06:04 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Unstable .zip not working on community website
In-Reply-To: <533EC700.2020305@tor.nl>
References: <533EC700.2020305@tor.nl>
Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7298@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>

We'll sort this out next week: we can't redistribute 186MB, need to think differently.

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 04 April 2014 15:52
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Unstable .zip not working on community website

L.S.,

Ron mentioned in another message, that the unstable .zip no longer works.

It is caused by the addition of JSmol library by nmiran a month ago.

This adds a whopping 186 Mb to the installation, and the .zip file is too large to be uploaded to the community website because of php constraints.  I'll fix that, but I also would like to know whether everything in the JmolViewer folder is needed at runtime? Can I skip folders?


Regards,

Tom




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From reijnders at tor.nl  Fri Apr  4 16:07:44 2014
From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:07:44 +0200
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Unstable .zip not working on community website
In-Reply-To: <6731C96EB320BD49B490F66C7836065131165419EE@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <533EC700.2020305@tor.nl>
	<6731C96EB320BD49B490F66C7836065131165419EE@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <533ECAC0.4090800@tor.nl>

Thank you!

Tom

Nikodem Miranowicz schreef op 4-4-2014 17:01:
> Thanks Tom for pointing this out. I must admit that I had my reservations before adding this huge JSmol library. I'll look into this next week and if it 'll be possible to reduce the number supporting of files I'll let you know.
>
> Cheers
>
> Niko
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 04 April 2014 15:52
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Unstable .zip not working on community website
>
> L.S.,
>
> Ron mentioned in another message, that the unstable .zip no longer works.
>
> It is caused by the addition of JSmol library by nmiran a month ago.
>
> This adds a whopping 186 Mb to the installation, and the .zip file is too large to be uploaded to the community website because of php constraints.  I'll fix that, but I also would like to know whether everything in the JmolViewer folder is needed at runtime? Can I skip folders?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
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From reijnders at tor.nl  Fri Apr  4 16:09:20 2014
From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:09:20 +0200
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Unstable .zip not working on community website
In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7298@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <533EC700.2020305@tor.nl>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7298@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
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Well, I don't think that's even the biggest issue. The biggest problem 
is that if you export an LO that uses the Jmol page, it will contain 
that 186 Mb as well...

Tom

Julian Tenney schreef op 4-4-2014 17:06:
> We'll sort this out next week: we can't redistribute 186MB, need to think differently.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 04 April 2014 15:52
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Unstable .zip not working on community website
>
> L.S.,
>
> Ron mentioned in another message, that the unstable .zip no longer works.
>
> It is caused by the addition of JSmol library by nmiran a month ago.
>
> This adds a whopping 186 Mb to the installation, and the .zip file is too large to be uploaded to the community website because of php constraints.  I'll fix that, but I also would like to know whether everything in the JmolViewer folder is needed at runtime? Can I skip folders?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Fri Apr  4 18:20:34 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 18:20:34 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Unstable .zip not working on community website
In-Reply-To: <533ECB20.5070101@tor.nl>
References: <533EC700.2020305@tor.nl>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7298@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>,
	<533ECB20.5070101@tor.nl>
Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEB3917B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>

Then perhaps we don't distribute it. Provide instructions if you want to add it in.
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl]
Sent: 04 April 2014 16:09
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Unstable .zip not working on community website

Well, I don't think that's even the biggest issue. The biggest problem
is that if you export an LO that uses the Jmol page, it will contain
that 186 Mb as well...

Tom

Julian Tenney schreef op 4-4-2014 17:06:
> We'll sort this out next week: we can't redistribute 186MB, need to think differently.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 04 April 2014 15:52
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Unstable .zip not working on community website
>
> L.S.,
>
> Ron mentioned in another message, that the unstable .zip no longer works.
>
> It is caused by the addition of JSmol library by nmiran a month ago.
>
> This adds a whopping 186 Mb to the installation, and the .zip file is too large to be uploaded to the community website because of php constraints.  I'll fix that, but I also would like to know whether everything in the JmolViewer folder is needed at runtime? Can I skip folders?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 13:23:03 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 13:23:03 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue
Message-ID: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>

Hi all

I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

 

Issue 1

I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:

Session ID not set

or

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

 

Q. Does this not happen for others?

 

Issue 2

In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server. 

 

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

 

Cheers

Ron

 

 

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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 13:39:34 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 13:39:34 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed...

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz... is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron


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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 14:05:15 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:05:15 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>,
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/xerte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From david at palepurple.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 14:16:53 2014
From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:16:53 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <5343F6C5.7010200@palepurple.co.uk>

The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not 
sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background 
periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.



> Julian Tenney <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> 8 April 2014 13:39
>
> Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my 
> head in.
>
> I don?t recognise 2.
>
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> Ron Mitchell <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> 8 April 2014 13:23
>
> Hi all
>
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results 
> got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking 
> again along with a separate issue I've noticed?
>
> Issue 1
>
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 
> from the community site and from my testing this revision is not 
> reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get 
> one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
>
> Session ID not set
>
> or
>
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
>
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively 
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like 
> example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any 
> successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the 
> server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that 
> doesn't have the session issu
>

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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 14:33:37 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:33:37 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>,
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <00b701cf532f$266f2420$734d6c60$@co.uk>

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
followed by .zip 

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has
also reported session id not set issues. 

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 14:49:02 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:49:02 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <00b701cf532f$266f2420$734d6c60$@co.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>,
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>,
	<00b701cf532f$266f2420$734d6c60$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF65@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has
also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 15:59:39 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 15:59:39 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
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	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>,
	<00b701cf532f$266f2420$734d6c60$@co.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF65@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
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No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 16:19:53 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:19:53 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7C4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
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	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>,
	<00b701cf532f$266f2420$734d6c60$@co.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF65@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>,
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Comment the code out again and see if it goes away... although it's strange that I can't reproduce the issue...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 16:30:21 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:30:21 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
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Gonna struggle for time this week, and off next week, but I will do when I get a chance,

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:20
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Comment the code out again and see if it goes away... although it's strange that I can't reproduce the issue...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com  Tue Apr  8 16:36:55 2014
From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:36:55 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF6D@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
	<00b701cf532f$266f2420$734d6c60$@co.uk>
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	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7C4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
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Message-ID: <CAO2PinNqH4Q8dr=VHOq3vcFJncPbasqir00H7fLTS+gx83Rtkw@mail.gmail.com>

session ids are likely to be dependent on the entropy time out settings in
php.ini

do a php ini comparison


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

> Comment the code out again and see if it goes away... although it's
> strange that I can't reproduce the issue...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University
> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed
> around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new
> code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...
>
> Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does
> it do it in every browser?
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [
> ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
> followed by .zip
>
> My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian
> has also reported session id not set issues.
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
> mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...
>
> the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (
> https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
> erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
> Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my
> head in.
>
> I don't recognise 2.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
> Mitchell
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Hi all
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got
> lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along
> with a separate issue I've noticed.
>
> Issue 1
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from
> the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g.
> one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors
> when trying to create a new lo:
> Session ID not set
> or
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
> example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
> export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that
> doesn't have the session issue above?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
>
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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 16:08:55 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:08:55 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7C4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>,
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>,
	<00b701cf532f$266f2420$734d6c60$@co.uk>	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF65@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7C4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <00d701cf533c$7695b6a0$63c123e0$@co.uk>

For me it was happening in IE 10.
Hoping to find time to test again shortly and will report back later.

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:00
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 14:35:32 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:35:32 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <5343F6C5.7010200@palepurple.co.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<5343F6C5.7010200@palepurple.co.uk>
Message-ID: <00b801cf532f$6b6b0da0$424128e0$@co.uk>

This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to a normal timeout. 

Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?

Cheers

Ron

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

 

The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.








 <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> Julian Tenney

8 April 2014 13:39

Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

 

I don?t recognise 2.

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 <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> Ron Mitchell

8 April 2014 13:23

Hi all

I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

 

Issue 1

I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:

Session ID not set

or

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

 

Q. Does this not happen for others?

 

Issue 2

In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server. 

 

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issu

 

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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 14:40:36 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:40:36 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <00b701cf532f$266f2420$734d6c60$@co.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>,
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	<00b701cf532f$266f2420$734d6c60$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <00c201cf5330$1fe460b0$5fad2210$@co.uk>

Sorry no idea why my messages are being duplicated - only sending once!

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:34
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
followed by .zip 

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has
also reported session id not set issues. 

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 16:52:12 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:52:12 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <00b801cf532f$6b6b0da0$424128e0$@co.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>
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Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>

Alsmost every time I log in to our toolkits server here, even first thing after a clean boot on my machine I get the error when I try and edit an LO.

Yep. Just tried it. It really is EVERY time.

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:36
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to a normal timeout.
Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?
Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.



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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.
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8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issu

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From david at palepurple.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 16:58:02 2014
From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:58:02 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
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You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

     die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.


> Julian Tenney <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> 8 April 2014 16:52
>
> Alsmost every time I log in to our toolkits server here, even first 
> thing after a clean boot on my machine I get the error when I try and 
> edit an LO.
>
> Yep. Just tried it. It really is EVERY time.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron 
> Mitchell
> *Sent:* 08 April 2014 14:36
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to 
> a normal timeout.
>
> Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David 
> Goodwin
> *Sent:* 08 April 2014 14:17
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm 
> not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of 
> background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming 
> stale?
>
> David.
>
>
>
> *Julian Tenney* <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>
> 8 April 2014 13:39
>
> Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my 
> head in.
>
> I don?t recognise 2.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Xerte-dev mailing list
> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk <mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
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>
> *Ron Mitchell* <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>
> 8 April 2014 13:23
>
> Hi all
>
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results 
> got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking 
> again along with a separate issue I've noticed?
>
> Issue 1
>
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 
> from the community site and from my testing this revision is not 
> reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get 
> one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
>
> Session ID not set
>
> or
>
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
>
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively 
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like 
> example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any 
> successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the 
> server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that 
> doesn't have the session issu
>
> -- 
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>
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> Ron Mitchell <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> 8 April 2014 14:35
>
> This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to 
> a normal timeout.
>
> Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David 
> Goodwin
> *Sent:* 08 April 2014 14:17
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm 
> not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of 
> background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming 
> stale?
>
> David.
>
>
>
>
> *Julian Tenney* <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>
> 8 April 2014 13:39
>
> Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my 
> head in.
>
> I don?t recognise 2.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
> *Ron Mitchell* <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>
> 8 April 2014 13:23
>
> Hi all
>
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results 
> got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking 
> again along with a separate issue I've noticed?
>
> Issue 1
>
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 
> from the community site and from my testing this revision is not 
> reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get 
> one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
>
> Session ID not set
>
> or
>
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
>
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively 
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like 
> example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any 
> successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the 
> server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that 
> doesn't have the session issu
>
> -- 
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>
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> David Goodwin <mailto:david at palepurple.co.uk>
> 8 April 2014 14:16
> The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm 
> not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of 
> background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming 
> stale?
>
> David.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev
> Julian Tenney <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> 8 April 2014 13:39
>
> Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my 
> head in.
>
> I don?t recognise 2.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron 
> Mitchell
> *Sent:* 08 April 2014 13:23
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Hi all
>
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results 
> got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking 
> again along with a separate issue I've noticed?
>
> Issue 1
>
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 
> from the community site and from my testing this revision is not 
> reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get 
> one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
>
> Session ID not set
>
> or
>
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
>
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively 
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like 
> example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any 
> successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the 
> server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that 
> doesn't have the session issue above?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
>
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> Ron Mitchell <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> 8 April 2014 13:23
>
> Hi all
>
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results 
> got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking 
> again along with a separate issue I've noticed?
>
> Issue 1
>
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 
> from the community site and from my testing this revision is not 
> reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get 
> one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
>
> Session ID not set
>
> or
>
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
>
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively 
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like 
> example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any 
> successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the 
> server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that 
> doesn't have the session issue above?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
>
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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 17:00:50 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 17:00:50 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

    die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.



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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 16:52
Alsmost every time I log in to our toolkits server here, even first thing after a clean boot on my machine I get the error when I try and edit an LO.

Yep. Just tried it. It really is EVERY time.

[cid:image003.png at 01CF534C.18025660]

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:36
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to a normal timeout.
Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?
Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.




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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.
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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issu

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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 14:35
This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to a normal timeout.
Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?
Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.





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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.
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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issu

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David Goodwin<mailto:david at palepurple.co.uk>
8 April 2014 14:16
The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.



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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 17:01:09 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 17:01:09 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
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I have definitely logged in!

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

    die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.



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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 16:52
Alsmost every time I log in to our toolkits server here, even first thing after a clean boot on my machine I get the error when I try and edit an LO.

Yep. Just tried it. It really is EVERY time.

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:36
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to a normal timeout.
Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?
Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.




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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.
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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issu

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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 14:35
This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to a normal timeout.
Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?
Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.





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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.
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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issu

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David Goodwin<mailto:david at palepurple.co.uk>
8 April 2014 14:16
The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.



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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From david at palepurple.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 17:04:07 2014
From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:04:07 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
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OK - but does var_dump($_SESSION); reveal anything?

David.


> Julian Tenney <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> 8 April 2014 17:01
>
> I have definitely logged in!
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David 
> Goodwin
> *Sent:* 08 April 2014 16:58
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> You'd see that if you haven't logged in.
>
> Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id
>
>
> So ... could you put a :
>
> var_dump($_SESSION);
>
> in the /edit.php file - just above / before :
>
>     die("Session ID not set");
>
> (which is nearly at the bottom of it)
>
> What does it output now?
>
> thanks
> David.
>

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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 17:18:51 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 17:18:51 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
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In the xampp I've used for testing this the entropy settings are as follows:

 

session.entropy_file no value no value 

session.entropy_length 16 16

 

But never been a problem before with the same xampp and not a problem with
previous versions and the same xampp

 

Using guest login to so no login screen just straight in

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:37
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

 

session ids are likely to be dependent on the entropy time out settings in
php.ini

do a php ini comparison

 

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

Comment the code out again and see if it goes away... although it's strange
that I can't reproduce the issue...


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[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]

Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59

To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed
around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new
code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does
it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
[ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has
also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
<https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696> 
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 17:16:38 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 17:16:38 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CB5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
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	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<53441C8A.8050106@palepurple.co.uk>,
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You are using LDAP Julian? And what auth are you using Ron?

Regards,

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:00
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

    die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.



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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 16:52
Alsmost every time I log in to our toolkits server here, even first thing after a clean boot on my machine I get the error when I try and edit an LO.

Yep. Just tried it. It really is EVERY time.

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:36
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to a normal timeout.
Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?
Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.




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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.
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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issu

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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 14:35
This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to a normal timeout.
Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?
Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.





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8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.
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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issu

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8 April 2014 14:16
The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

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8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From david at palepurple.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 17:09:57 2014
From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:09:57 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CB5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<5343F6C5.7010200@palepurple.co.uk>	<00b801cf532f$6b6b0da0$424128e0$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<53441C8A.8050106@palepurple.co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CB5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <53441F55.6040600@palepurple.co.uk>

That's a pretty empty session!. It definitely doesn't seem to think that 
you're logged in.

What authentication mechanism are you using?


David.

> Julian Tenney <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> 8 April 2014 17:00
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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 17:25:27 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 17:25:27 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <53441DF7.8020307@palepurple.co.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>	<5343F6C5.7010200@palepurple.co.uk>	<00b801cf532f$6b6b0da0$424128e0$@co.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>	<53441C8A.8050106@palepurple.co.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CB6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<53441DF7.8020307@palepurple.co.uk>
Message-ID: <011b01cf5347$27ef6ea0$77ce4be0$@co.uk>

In xampp I have an install called xerteapril2014 with guest authentication set.

 

If I visit http://localhost/xerteapril2014/ and try to create a new LO I first get the error:

 

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

 

If I refresh and try creating a new LO again and with var_dump($_SESSION); added to edit.php I get:

 

array

  'toolkits_language' => string 'en-GB' (length=5)

 

Session ID not set

 

HTH

Ron

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:04
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

 

OK - but does var_dump($_SESSION); reveal anything?

David.







 <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> Julian Tenney

8 April 2014 17:01

I have definitely logged in!

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

 

You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id 


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

    die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.

 

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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 17:20:36 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 17:20:36 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7C4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>,
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>,
	<00b701cf532f$266f2420$734d6c60$@co.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF65@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>,
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7C4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF72@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>

I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is as that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the Flash Cookie bug anyway...

Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and Guest....

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 17:25:27 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 17:25:27 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <011b01cf5347$27ef6ea0$77ce4be0$@co.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<5343F6C5.7010200@palepurple.co.uk>	<00b801cf532f$6b6b0da0$424128e0$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<53441C8A.8050106@palepurple.co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CB6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<53441DF7.8020307@palepurple.co.uk>,
	<011b01cf5347$27ef6ea0$77ce4be0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF73@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>

Is this a zip install from the Community site Ron? I'm mainly working from checked out git Develop and v2.1 branches...

I wonder if the zip packager is doing something. Do you see any missing file errors in the console network tab? In Chrome they usually turn red... or any other console errors?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:25
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

In xampp I have an install called xerteapril2014 with guest authentication set.

If I visit http://localhost/xerteapril2014/ and try to create a new LO I first get the error:

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

If I refresh and try creating a new LO again and with var_dump($_SESSION); added to edit.php I get:

array
  'toolkits_language' => string 'en-GB' (length=5)

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:04
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

OK - but does var_dump($_SESSION); reveal anything?

David.



[cid:image001.jpg at 01CF534F.88778610]
Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 17:01
I have definitely logged in!

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

    die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.

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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 17:45:50 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 17:45:50 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF73@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>	<5343F6C5.7010200@palepurple.co.uk>	<00b801cf532f$6b6b0da0$424128e0$@co.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>	<53441C8A.8050106@palepurple.co.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CB6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>	<53441DF7.8020307@palepurple.co.uk>,
	<011b01cf5347$27ef6ea0$77ce4be0$@co.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF73@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <012d01cf534a$00e35ee0$02aa1ca0$@co.uk>

Hi John
yes my test install is from the community site. I was using that because I began testing the separate issue reported by a user not being able to import an LO that Alistair had installed and also the re-run of setup etc. Most users obviously get the downloads from the community site rather than from git.

Ironically I've just been testing with Firefox and can't reproduce the error yet I can consistently with IE. 

So not sure where that leaves us? :-(

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:25
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Is this a zip install from the Community site Ron? I'm mainly working from checked out git Develop and v2.1 branches...

I wonder if the zip packager is doing something. Do you see any missing file errors in the console network tab? In Chrome they usually turn red... or any other console errors?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:25
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

In xampp I have an install called xerteapril2014 with guest authentication set.

If I visit http://localhost/xerteapril2014/ and try to create a new LO I first get the error:

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

If I refresh and try creating a new LO again and with var_dump($_SESSION); added to edit.php I get:

array
  'toolkits_language' => string 'en-GB' (length=5)

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:04
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

OK - but does var_dump($_SESSION); reveal anything?

David.



[cid:image001.jpg at 01CF534F.88778610]
Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 17:01
I have definitely logged in!

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

    die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.

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0845 0046746 | 07792 380669

http://www.palepurple.co.uk
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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 18:15:10 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 18:15:10 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <012d01cf534a$00e35ee0$02aa1ca0$@co.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>	<5343F6C5.7010200@palepurple.co.uk>	<00b801cf532f$6b6b0da0$424128e0$@co.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>	<53441C8A.8050106@palepurple.co.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CB6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>	<53441DF7.8020307@palepurple.co.uk>,
	<011b01cf5347$27ef6ea0$77ce4be0$@co.uk>	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF73@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
	<012d01cf534a$00e35ee0$02aa1ca0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <013401cf534e$1a15e230$4e41a690$@co.uk>

So I can't reproduce the error I'm getting with Firefox, Chrome or Safari i.e. I only get the errors with IE.

I tried clearing cache with IE but can still repeat error consistently.

I tried a new install with the version I had been using previously 2.1 (git git-82-g70282af) and on the same xampp that works in IE without problem.

Will try a new install from latest git later.

Not sure if that means the error I'm getting is different or at least a different cause from the error Julian is getting.

Certainly I seem to be the only one with the Invalid template_id (could not find in DB) error in IE.


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:46
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi John
yes my test install is from the community site. I was using that because I began testing the separate issue reported by a user not being able to import an LO that Alistair had installed and also the re-run of setup etc. Most users obviously get the downloads from the community site rather than from git.

Ironically I've just been testing with Firefox and can't reproduce the error yet I can consistently with IE. 

So not sure where that leaves us? :-(

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:25
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Is this a zip install from the Community site Ron? I'm mainly working from checked out git Develop and v2.1 branches...

I wonder if the zip packager is doing something. Do you see any missing file errors in the console network tab? In Chrome they usually turn red... or any other console errors?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:25
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

In xampp I have an install called xerteapril2014 with guest authentication set.

If I visit http://localhost/xerteapril2014/ and try to create a new LO I first get the error:

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

If I refresh and try creating a new LO again and with var_dump($_SESSION); added to edit.php I get:

array
  'toolkits_language' => string 'en-GB' (length=5)

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:04
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

OK - but does var_dump($_SESSION); reveal anything?

David.



[cid:image001.jpg at 01CF534F.88778610]
Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 17:01
I have definitely logged in!

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

    die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.

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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 18:25:51 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 18:25:51 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
Message-ID: <p6e87l973xb9hk5rhxkjasjd.1396977948504@email.android.com>

Hmm is it IE10?

No console errors? Do you see the session cookie in the headed responses in IE (not even sure if you can or how to) and are they empty?

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII



Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:


So I can't reproduce the error I'm getting with Firefox, Chrome or Safari i.e. I only get the errors with IE.

I tried clearing cache with IE but can still repeat error consistently.

I tried a new install with the version I had been using previously 2.1 (git git-82-g70282af) and on the same xampp that works in IE without problem.

Will try a new install from latest git later.

Not sure if that means the error I'm getting is different or at least a different cause from the error Julian is getting.

Certainly I seem to be the only one with the Invalid template_id (could not find in DB) error in IE.


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:46
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi John
yes my test install is from the community site. I was using that because I began testing the separate issue reported by a user not being able to import an LO that Alistair had installed and also the re-run of setup etc. Most users obviously get the downloads from the community site rather than from git.

Ironically I've just been testing with Firefox and can't reproduce the error yet I can consistently with IE.

So not sure where that leaves us? :-(

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:25
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Is this a zip install from the Community site Ron? I'm mainly working from checked out git Develop and v2.1 branches...

I wonder if the zip packager is doing something. Do you see any missing file errors in the console network tab? In Chrome they usually turn red... or any other console errors?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:25
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

In xampp I have an install called xerteapril2014 with guest authentication set.

If I visit http://localhost/xerteapril2014/ and try to create a new LO I first get the error:

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

If I refresh and try creating a new LO again and with var_dump($_SESSION); added to edit.php I get:

array
  'toolkits_language' => string 'en-GB' (length=5)

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:04
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

OK - but does var_dump($_SESSION); reveal anything?

David.



[cid:image001.jpg at 01CF534F.88778610]
Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 17:01
I have definitely logged in!

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

    die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.

--
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http://www.palepurple.co.uk
@PalePurpleLtd

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Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009.
http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html

Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners.
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http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html

From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 19:05:41 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 19:05:41 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <p6e87l973xb9hk5rhxkjasjd.1396977948504@email.android.com>
References: <p6e87l973xb9hk5rhxkjasjd.1396977948504@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <013c01cf5355$286580a0$793081e0$@co.uk>

Done some further testing with the git downloads and created new clean installs from the 2.1 branch and the develop branch and both give me these same errors in IE 10 but no errors in Chrome or Firefox.

However I don't get the same problems with the same IE and same xampp with the earlier version from git. I don't get the same problem with IE 10 with any of the live installs to which I have access either but none of those are this very latest code.

I've run out of time tonight now but will try to test on another pc tomorrow.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 18:26
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Hmm is it IE10?

No console errors? Do you see the session cookie in the headed responses in IE (not even sure if you can or how to) and are they empty?

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII



Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:


So I can't reproduce the error I'm getting with Firefox, Chrome or Safari i.e. I only get the errors with IE.

I tried clearing cache with IE but can still repeat error consistently.

I tried a new install with the version I had been using previously 2.1 (git git-82-g70282af) and on the same xampp that works in IE without problem.

Will try a new install from latest git later.

Not sure if that means the error I'm getting is different or at least a different cause from the error Julian is getting.

Certainly I seem to be the only one with the Invalid template_id (could not find in DB) error in IE.


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:46
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi John
yes my test install is from the community site. I was using that because I began testing the separate issue reported by a user not being able to import an LO that Alistair had installed and also the re-run of setup etc. Most users obviously get the downloads from the community site rather than from git.

Ironically I've just been testing with Firefox and can't reproduce the error yet I can consistently with IE.

So not sure where that leaves us? :-(

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:25
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Is this a zip install from the Community site Ron? I'm mainly working from checked out git Develop and v2.1 branches...

I wonder if the zip packager is doing something. Do you see any missing file errors in the console network tab? In Chrome they usually turn red... or any other console errors?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:25
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

In xampp I have an install called xerteapril2014 with guest authentication set.

If I visit http://localhost/xerteapril2014/ and try to create a new LO I first get the error:

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

If I refresh and try creating a new LO again and with var_dump($_SESSION); added to edit.php I get:

array
  'toolkits_language' => string 'en-GB' (length=5)

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:04
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

OK - but does var_dump($_SESSION); reveal anything?

David.



[cid:image001.jpg at 01CF534F.88778610]
Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 17:01
I have definitely logged in!

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

    die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.

--
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http://www.palepurple.co.uk
@PalePurpleLtd

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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Tue Apr  8 22:17:32 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 22:17:32 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <013401cf534e$1a15e230$4e41a690$@co.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<5343F6C5.7010200@palepurple.co.uk>	<00b801cf532f$6b6b0da0$424128e0$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<53441C8A.8050106@palepurple.co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CB6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<53441DF7.8020307@palepurple.co.uk>,
	<011b01cf5347$27ef6ea0$77ce4be0$@co.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF73@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
	<012d01cf534a$00e35ee0$02aa1ca0$@co.uk>,
	<013401cf534e$1a15e230$4e41a690$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF78@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>

Hi Ron,

So I just downloaded the latest zip and did an XAMPP install and do not get any issues at all, albeit using IE11 which is on my laptop. I don't have an IE10 install...

So i'm at a bit of a loss... i'll try to get hold of a laptop at work that still has IE10 and try that too...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 18:15
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

So I can't reproduce the error I'm getting with Firefox, Chrome or Safari i.e. I only get the errors with IE.

I tried clearing cache with IE but can still repeat error consistently.

I tried a new install with the version I had been using previously 2.1 (git git-82-g70282af) and on the same xampp that works in IE without problem.

Will try a new install from latest git later.

Not sure if that means the error I'm getting is different or at least a different cause from the error Julian is getting.

Certainly I seem to be the only one with the Invalid template_id (could not find in DB) error in IE.


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:46
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi John
yes my test install is from the community site. I was using that because I began testing the separate issue reported by a user not being able to import an LO that Alistair had installed and also the re-run of setup etc. Most users obviously get the downloads from the community site rather than from git.

Ironically I've just been testing with Firefox and can't reproduce the error yet I can consistently with IE.

So not sure where that leaves us? :-(

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:25
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Is this a zip install from the Community site Ron? I'm mainly working from checked out git Develop and v2.1 branches...

I wonder if the zip packager is doing something. Do you see any missing file errors in the console network tab? In Chrome they usually turn red... or any other console errors?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:25
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

In xampp I have an install called xerteapril2014 with guest authentication set.

If I visit http://localhost/xerteapril2014/ and try to create a new LO I first get the error:

Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

If I refresh and try creating a new LO again and with var_dump($_SESSION); added to edit.php I get:

array
  'toolkits_language' => string 'en-GB' (length=5)

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:04
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

OK - but does var_dump($_SESSION); reveal anything?

David.



[cid:image001.jpg at 01CF534F.88778610]
Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 17:01
I have definitely logged in!

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

    die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.

--
Pale Purple Ltd
0845 0046746 | 07792 380669

http://www.palepurple.co.uk
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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 23:45:25 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 23:45:25 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
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	<012d01cf534a$00e35ee0$02aa1ca0$@co.uk>
	<013401cf534e$1a15e230$4e41a690$@co.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF78@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <8E912D3C-9717-46DB-892E-CE471B477FDA@mitchellmedia.co.uk>

Hi John
I also tried a copy of the xampp I've been using on a desktop with IE11 and no problems with that either. So it might be IE10 specific or just my IE10 but it seems there's something causing a problem with the latest XOT code because the same xampp and same IE10 no problems with the earlier revisions. Will see if I can test on a different IE10 PC too. I know that could mean that upgrading the IE 10 to 11 might resolve the issue but I don't want to do that because IE 10 is still common especially in Colleges. 

Of course this also leaves the fact that Julian is getting session issues with Firefox that we aren't. :-(

Cheers
Ron

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Apr 2014, at 22:17, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> So I just downloaded the latest zip and did an XAMPP install and do not get any issues at all, albeit using IE11 which is on my laptop. I don't have an IE10 install...
> 
> So i'm at a bit of a loss... i'll try to get hold of a laptop at work that still has IE10 and try that too...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 18:15
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
> 
> So I can't reproduce the error I'm getting with Firefox, Chrome or Safari i..e. I only get the errors with IE.
> 
> I tried clearing cache with IE but can still repeat error consistently.
> 
> I tried a new install with the version I had been using previously 2.1 (git git-82-g70282af) and on the same xampp that works in IE without problem.
> 
> Will try a new install from latest git later.
> 
> Not sure if that means the error I'm getting is different or at least a different cause from the error Julian is getting.
> 
> Certainly I seem to be the only one with the Invalid template_id (could not find in DB) error in IE.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----


From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Wed Apr  9 07:53:14 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 07:53:14 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
In-Reply-To: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF72@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
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	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>,
	<00b701cf532f$266f2420$734d6c60$@co.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF65@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>,
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	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF72@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
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;-)

I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...

so 2 + 2 = ?
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is as that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the Flash Cookie bug anyway...

Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and Guest....

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Wed Apr  9 07:54:12 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 07:54:12 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
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	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7CA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<53441C8A.8050106@palepurple.co.uk>,
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yes, this is our main install
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:16
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

You are using LDAP Julian? And what auth are you using Ron?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:00
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 16:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

You'd see that if you haven't logged in.

Specifically, $_SESSION doesn't contain the key : toolkits_logon_id


So ... could you put a :

var_dump($_SESSION);

in the /edit.php file - just above / before :

    die("Session ID not set");

(which is nearly at the bottom of it)

What does it output now?

thanks
David.



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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 16:52
Alsmost every time I log in to our toolkits server here, even first thing after a clean boot on my machine I get the error when I try and edit an LO.

Yep. Just tried it. It really is EVERY time.

[cid:image003.png at 01CF534C.18025660]

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:36
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to a normal timeout.
Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?
Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.




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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.
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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issu

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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 14:35
This was on xampp but happening within a couple of minutes not due to a normal timeout.
Not sure about the occasions Julian has reported?
Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.





[cid:image004.jpg at 01CF534C.18025660]
Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.
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Ron Mitchell<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issu

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David Goodwin<mailto:david at palepurple.co.uk>
8 April 2014 14:16
The session id issue sounds a bit like the session has expired. I'm not sure how to fix that properly - perhaps having some sort of background periodic request on the server to stop the session becoming stale?

David.



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Julian Tenney<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
8 April 2014 13:39
Never seen ?invalid template id?. But ?session ID not set? is doing my head in.

I don?t recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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8 April 2014 13:23
Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed?

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz? is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Wed Apr  9 08:29:07 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 08:29:07 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
Message-ID: <t2gsgnx95wnibv2yvnj8i9a4.1397025618142@email.android.com>

Hi Ron

That's the strange thing - IE10 is still very common so i would expect there to be lots of reports of issues but i can only remember 1 other session issue.

What's even more strange is that both you and Julian have very similar errors but with different browsers and that you only get the error in IE10 but not in Firefox whereas Julian is having firefox issues.

Can either of you document the exact steps to reproduce with browser versions and clearing cache AND cookies beforehand? Then we can try to get some other people to follow the exact steps to try to find the commonality.

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII



Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:


Hi John
I also tried a copy of the xampp I've been using on a desktop with IE11 and no problems with that either. So it might be IE10 specific or just my IE10 but it seems there's something causing a problem with the latest XOT code because the same xampp and same IE10 no problems with the earlier revisions. Will see if I can test on a different IE10 PC too. I know that could mean that upgrading the IE 10 to 11 might resolve the issue but I don't want to do that because IE 10 is still common especially in Colleges.

Of course this also leaves the fact that Julian is getting session issues with Firefox that we aren't. :-(

Cheers
Ron

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Apr 2014, at 22:17, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> So I just downloaded the latest zip and did an XAMPP install and do not get any issues at all, albeit using IE11 which is on my laptop. I don't have an IE10 install...
>
> So i'm at a bit of a loss... i'll try to get hold of a laptop at work that still has IE10 and try that too...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 18:15
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> So I can't reproduce the error I'm getting with Firefox, Chrome or Safari i..e. I only get the errors with IE.
>
> I tried clearing cache with IE but can still repeat error consistently.
>
> I tried a new install with the version I had been using previously 2.1 (git git-82-g70282af) and on the same xampp that works in IE without problem.
>
> Will try a new install from latest git later.
>
> Not sure if that means the error I'm getting is different or at least a different cause from the error Julian is getting.
>
> Certainly I seem to be the only one with the Invalid template_id (could not find in DB) error in IE.
>
>
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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Wed Apr  9 08:38:59 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 08:38:59 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
Message-ID: <a0mbi9x0qo27li67nijdd4ts.1397028719296@email.android.com>

I know, i'm just jesting.

There's definitely something going on though. What might be really good is if we did some subversioning on the community site and used filehippo or something to store the zips. So we can go back to say v2.0.7 and get the zip and test it. I'm not sure if we can or how we would do that just now with github.

We could have a monthly minor version built automatically with all changes from that month? Tom would be best though to advise on whether that is possible. Just now its hard to track a fault as we only get a major version number in version.txt

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:


;-)

I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...

so 2 + 2 = ?
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is as that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the Flash Cookie bug anyway...

Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and Guest....

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 09:31:07 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
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is there some whitespace in new commits messing up sessions?


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Julian Tenney <
Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> ;-)
>
> I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...
>
> so 2 + 2 = ?
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [
> J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is
> as that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a
> media file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by
> the Flash Cookie bug anyway...
>
> Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and
> Guest....
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University
> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed
> around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new
> code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...
>
> Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does
> it do it in every browser?
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [
> ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
> followed by .zip
>
> My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian
> has also reported session id not set issues.
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
> mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...
>
> the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (
> https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
> erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
> Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my
> head in.
>
> I don't recognise 2.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
> Mitchell
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Hi all
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got
> lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along
> with a separate issue I've noticed.
>
> Issue 1
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from
> the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g.
> one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors
> when trying to create a new lo:
> Session ID not set
> or
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
> example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
> export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that
> doesn't have the session issue above?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
>
>
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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Wed Apr  9 09:58:31 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 09:58:31 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
Message-ID: <4ca7irrnu2qujy0q5h65y1qq.1397033635575@email.android.com>

Its possible i suppose but i would have thought that it would kill all sessions equally...

until we can reproduce it is going to be really hard to track down...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII



"Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:


is there some whitespace in new commits messing up sessions?


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
;-)

I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...

so 2 + 2 = ?
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is as that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the Flash Cookie bug anyway...

Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and Guest....

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com  Wed Apr  9 10:37:35 2014
From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 10:37:35 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
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Turn error reporting on?


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

> Its possible i suppose but i would have thought that it would kill all
> sessions equally...
>
> until we can reproduce it is going to be really hard to track down...
>
> Regards
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>
>
>
> "Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:
>
>
> is there some whitespace in new commits messing up sessions?
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Julian Tenney <
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
> wrote:
> ;-)
>
> I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...
>
> so 2 + 2 = ?
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John [
> J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is
> as that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a
> media file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by
> the Flash Cookie bug anyway...
>
> Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and
> Guest....
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University
> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed
> around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new
> code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...
>
> Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does
> it do it in every browser?
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [
> ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
> followed by .zip
>
> My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian
> has also reported session id not set issues.
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
> mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...
>
> the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (
> https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
> erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
> Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my
> head in.
>
> I don't recognise 2.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Hi all
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got
> lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along
> with a separate issue I've noticed.
>
> Issue 1
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from
> the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g.
> one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors
> when trying to create a new lo:
> Session ID not set
> or
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
> example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
> export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that
> doesn't have the session issue above?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
>
>
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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Thu Apr 10 15:35:05 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:35:05 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
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Hi John/all
ok I've been testing further and there are too many variables to conclude
for sure but here's a summary...

Have been testing with 2.1 branch from git
As far as I can tell there's definitely a problem with IE 10 which in my
case doesn't occur with IE 11 or other browsers
Have tested with two separate Windows 7 installs with IE 10 and can
reproduce the problem with both IE10's and via xampp as well as an online
linux install 
the same installs work fine via IE 11 and also as decribed previously
earlier XOT code works fine with the same IE 10
I've been testing the local xampp installs via guest auth and the online
installs via moodle so the authentication method doesn't seem important

If you have IE10 and access to the server we used previously for testing
updates you can test as follows:
1. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot (latest 2.1 branch) try creating a
project you should get a session error?
2. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/sandpit (earlier 2.1 branch) try
creating a project should work
Other browsers should work fine on both installs although curious as to
whether Julian or anyone else gets session errors with firefox?

Not sure if it's relevant or a problem just with the Win 7 via Parrallels I
was using on my Mac to test a second IE10 on a different pc but on that I
was also getting the following js error:

script16386: No such inteface supported

template_management.js, line182 character 7

As I say that may be a red herring but the error I can reproduce reliably
with latest 2.1 + IE10 but not previous 2.1 regardless of browser is: 

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 09 April 2014 09:59
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Its possible i suppose but i would have thought that it would kill all
sessions equally...

until we can reproduce it is going to be really hard to track down...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII



"Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:


is there some whitespace in new commits messing up sessions?


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
wrote:
;-)

I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...

so 2 + 2 = ?
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ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
[J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is as
that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media
file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the
Flash Cookie bug anyway...

Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and Guest....

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From:
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ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed
around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li
sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new
code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does
it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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ingham.ac.uk>
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tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has
also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


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ingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li
sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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From:
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ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From:
xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
ingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li
sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Thu Apr 10 20:07:49 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 20:07:49 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
In-Reply-To: <00b401cf54ca$11c78890$355699b0$@co.uk>
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	<00b401cf54ca$11c78890$355699b0$@co.uk>
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Hi Ron,

Well, further to your testing I was now able to reproduce the problem on BrowserStack using IE10.

What I am seeing (hopefully you can confirm) is that when you click create 3x files load asynchronously and one of them is logout.php... (see screenshot) but its not the same files as on the older sandpit install.

I'm not sure yet why it is loading that file though or indeed why it is not doing it in other browsers but we're a step closer to locating the problem. It must be in a recent change to the javascript though so at least its closer to being tracked down.

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 10 April 2014 15:35
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Hi John/all
ok I've been testing further and there are too many variables to conclude
for sure but here's a summary...

Have been testing with 2.1 branch from git
As far as I can tell there's definitely a problem with IE 10 which in my
case doesn't occur with IE 11 or other browsers
Have tested with two separate Windows 7 installs with IE 10 and can
reproduce the problem with both IE10's and via xampp as well as an online
linux install
the same installs work fine via IE 11 and also as decribed previously
earlier XOT code works fine with the same IE 10
I've been testing the local xampp installs via guest auth and the online
installs via moodle so the authentication method doesn't seem important

If you have IE10 and access to the server we used previously for testing
updates you can test as follows:
1. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot (latest 2.1 branch) try creating a
project you should get a session error?
2. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/sandpit (earlier 2.1 branch) try
creating a project should work
Other browsers should work fine on both installs although curious as to
whether Julian or anyone else gets session errors with firefox?

Not sure if it's relevant or a problem just with the Win 7 via Parrallels I
was using on my Mac to test a second IE10 on a different pc but on that I
was also getting the following js error:

script16386: No such inteface supported

template_management.js, line182 character 7

As I say that may be a red herring but the error I can reproduce reliably
with latest 2.1 + IE10 but not previous 2.1 regardless of browser is:

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 09 April 2014 09:59
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Its possible i suppose but i would have thought that it would kill all
sessions equally...

until we can reproduce it is going to be really hard to track down...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII



"Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:


is there some whitespace in new commits messing up sessions?


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
wrote:
;-)

I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...

so 2 + 2 = ?
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Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is as
that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media
file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the
Flash Cookie bug anyway...

Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and Guest....

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed
around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new
code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does
it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has
also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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ingham.ac.uk>
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tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
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Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li
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Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Thu Apr 10 20:56:01 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 20:56:01 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
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Hi John
yes I just tested with fiddler running and with the current 2.1 branch e.g. the /xot install and IE10 as you say logout.php is being called after clicking create but any other browser including IE11 it isn't and with the previous revision on the sandpit install it isn't in IE10 either.

I'll do some further testing tomorrow with my local xampp install to try to find the culprit js.

Cheers
Ron

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Sent: 10 April 2014 20:08
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Hi Ron,

Well, further to your testing I was now able to reproduce the problem on BrowserStack using IE10.

What I am seeing (hopefully you can confirm) is that when you click create 3x files load asynchronously and one of them is logout.php... (see screenshot) but its not the same files as on the older sandpit install.

I'm not sure yet why it is loading that file though or indeed why it is not doing it in other browsers but we're a step closer to locating the problem. It must be in a recent change to the javascript though so at least its closer to being tracked down.

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 10 April 2014 15:35
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Hi John/all
ok I've been testing further and there are too many variables to conclude for sure but here's a summary...

Have been testing with 2.1 branch from git As far as I can tell there's definitely a problem with IE 10 which in my case doesn't occur with IE 11 or other browsers Have tested with two separate Windows 7 installs with IE 10 and can reproduce the problem with both IE10's and via xampp as well as an online linux install the same installs work fine via IE 11 and also as decribed previously earlier XOT code works fine with the same IE 10 I've been testing the local xampp installs via guest auth and the online installs via moodle so the authentication method doesn't seem important

If you have IE10 and access to the server we used previously for testing updates you can test as follows:
1. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot (latest 2.1 branch) try creating a project you should get a session error?
2. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/sandpit (earlier 2.1 branch) try creating a project should work Other browsers should work fine on both installs although curious as to whether Julian or anyone else gets session errors with firefox?

Not sure if it's relevant or a problem just with the Win 7 via Parrallels I was using on my Mac to test a second IE10 on a different pc but on that I was also getting the following js error:

script16386: No such inteface supported

template_management.js, line182 character 7

As I say that may be a red herring but the error I can reproduce reliably with latest 2.1 + IE10 but not previous 2.1 regardless of browser is:

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 09 April 2014 09:59
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Its possible i suppose but i would have thought that it would kill all sessions equally...

until we can reproduce it is going to be really hard to track down...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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"Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:


is there some whitespace in new commits messing up sessions?


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
wrote:
;-)

I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...

so 2 + 2 = ?
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Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is as that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the Flash Cookie bug anyway...

Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and Guest....

Regards,

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
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From:
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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code (https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
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From:
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tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head in.

I don't recognise 2.

From:
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ingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li
sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com  Thu Apr 10 21:09:02 2014
From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:09:02 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
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Is the Iogout link being triggered when you click? Inspect the element?


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Ron,
>
> Well, further to your testing I was now able to reproduce the problem on
> BrowserStack using IE10.
>
> What I am seeing (hopefully you can confirm) is that when you click create
> 3x files load asynchronously and one of them is logout.php... (see
> screenshot) but its not the same files as on the older sandpit install.
>
> I'm not sure yet why it is loading that file though or indeed why it is
> not doing it in other browsers but we're a step closer to locating the
> problem. It must be in a recent change to the javascript though so at least
> its closer to being tracked down.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow Caledonian University
> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [
> ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 10 April 2014 15:35
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
>
> Hi John/all
> ok I've been testing further and there are too many variables to conclude
> for sure but here's a summary...
>
> Have been testing with 2.1 branch from git
> As far as I can tell there's definitely a problem with IE 10 which in my
> case doesn't occur with IE 11 or other browsers
> Have tested with two separate Windows 7 installs with IE 10 and can
> reproduce the problem with both IE10's and via xampp as well as an online
> linux install
> the same installs work fine via IE 11 and also as decribed previously
> earlier XOT code works fine with the same IE 10
> I've been testing the local xampp installs via guest auth and the online
> installs via moodle so the authentication method doesn't seem important
>
> If you have IE10 and access to the server we used previously for testing
> updates you can test as follows:
> 1. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot (latest 2.1 branch) try
> creating a
> project you should get a session error?
> 2. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/sandpit (earlier 2.1 branch) try
> creating a project should work
> Other browsers should work fine on both installs although curious as to
> whether Julian or anyone else gets session errors with firefox?
>
> Not sure if it's relevant or a problem just with the Win 7 via Parrallels I
> was using on my Mac to test a second IE10 on a different pc but on that I
> was also getting the following js error:
>
> script16386: No such inteface supported
>
> template_management.js, line182 character 7
>
> As I say that may be a red herring but the error I can reproduce reliably
> with latest 2.1 + IE10 but not previous 2.1 regardless of browser is:
>
> Session ID not set
>
> HTH
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 09 April 2014 09:59
> To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Its possible i suppose but i would have thought that it would kill all
> sessions equally...
>
> until we can reproduce it is going to be really hard to track down...
>
> Regards
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>
>
>
> "Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:
>
>
> is there some whitespace in new commits messing up sessions?
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
> wrote:
> ;-)
>
> I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...
>
> so 2 + 2 = ?
> ________________________________________
> From:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
> ingham.ac.uk>
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
> tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is
> as
> that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media
> file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the
> Flash Cookie bug anyway...
>
> Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and
> Guest....
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow
> Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
> ingham.ac.uk>
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
> tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed
> around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
> ingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at li
> sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new
> code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...
>
> Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does
> it do it in every browser?
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow
> Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
> ingham.ac.uk>
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
> tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
> followed by .zip
>
> My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian
> has
> also reported session id not set issues.
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
> ingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at li
> sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
> mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...
>
> the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
> (
> https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
> erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
> Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow
> Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
> ingham.ac.uk>
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
> tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
> in.
>
> I don't recognise 2.
>
> From:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
> ingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at li
> sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Hi all
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got
> lost
> in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
> separate issue I've noticed.
>
> Issue 1
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
> community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
> minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
> trying to create a new lo:
> Session ID not set
> or
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
> example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
> export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that
> doesn't
> have the session issue above?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
>
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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Thu Apr 10 21:16:47 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:16:47 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
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	<00b401cf54ca$11c78890$355699b0$@co.uk>,
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I might have added some ode to try and force the logout, to kill the session for next time, so if you find that, it was me... I don't think it works. I didn't think I'd checked it in though?
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
Sent: 10 April 2014 20:07
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Hi Ron,

Well, further to your testing I was now able to reproduce the problem on BrowserStack using IE10.

What I am seeing (hopefully you can confirm) is that when you click create 3x files load asynchronously and one of them is logout.php... (see screenshot) but its not the same files as on the older sandpit install.

I'm not sure yet why it is loading that file though or indeed why it is not doing it in other browsers but we're a step closer to locating the problem. It must be in a recent change to the javascript though so at least its closer to being tracked down.

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 10 April 2014 15:35
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Hi John/all
ok I've been testing further and there are too many variables to conclude
for sure but here's a summary...

Have been testing with 2.1 branch from git
As far as I can tell there's definitely a problem with IE 10 which in my
case doesn't occur with IE 11 or other browsers
Have tested with two separate Windows 7 installs with IE 10 and can
reproduce the problem with both IE10's and via xampp as well as an online
linux install
the same installs work fine via IE 11 and also as decribed previously
earlier XOT code works fine with the same IE 10
I've been testing the local xampp installs via guest auth and the online
installs via moodle so the authentication method doesn't seem important

If you have IE10 and access to the server we used previously for testing
updates you can test as follows:
1. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot (latest 2.1 branch) try creating a
project you should get a session error?
2. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/sandpit (earlier 2.1 branch) try
creating a project should work
Other browsers should work fine on both installs although curious as to
whether Julian or anyone else gets session errors with firefox?

Not sure if it's relevant or a problem just with the Win 7 via Parrallels I
was using on my Mac to test a second IE10 on a different pc but on that I
was also getting the following js error:

script16386: No such inteface supported

template_management.js, line182 character 7

As I say that may be a red herring but the error I can reproduce reliably
with latest 2.1 + IE10 but not previous 2.1 regardless of browser is:

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 09 April 2014 09:59
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Its possible i suppose but i would have thought that it would kill all
sessions equally...

until we can reproduce it is going to be really hard to track down...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII



"Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:


is there some whitespace in new commits messing up sessions?


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
wrote:
;-)

I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...

so 2 + 2 = ?
________________________________________
From:
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ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
[J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is as
that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media
file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the
Flash Cookie bug anyway...

Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and Guest....

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From:
xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed
around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

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ingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li
sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new
code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does
it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From:
xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
[ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has
also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From:
xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
ingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li
sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From:
xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From:
xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
ingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li
sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Thu Apr 10 21:40:08 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:40:08 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
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Yep that's the culprit for the promlem with IE10!

https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/b0e4411c55a397
27d11003d0b6d9ed2ae8e57439

was:
<body onload="javascript:sort_display_settings()"  onselectstart="return
false;" onscroll="body_scroll()">

Currently in 2.1 branch: 
<body onload="javascript:sort_display_settings()"  onselectstart="return
false;" onscroll="body_scroll()" onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()">

removing onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()" stops the problem with IE 10.

But I guess that leaves us with the Firefox issue you tried to fix with
that?

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 10 April 2014 21:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

I might have added some ode to try and force the logout, to kill the session
for next time, so if you find that, it was me... I don't think it works. I
didn't think I'd checked it in though?
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
[J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
Sent: 10 April 2014 20:07
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Hi Ron,

Well, further to your testing I was now able to reproduce the problem on
BrowserStack using IE10.

What I am seeing (hopefully you can confirm) is that when you click create
3x files load asynchronously and one of them is logout.php... (see
screenshot) but its not the same files as on the older sandpit install.

I'm not sure yet why it is loading that file though or indeed why it is not
doing it in other browsers but we're a step closer to locating the problem.
It must be in a recent change to the javascript though so at least its
closer to being tracked down.

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
[ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 10 April 2014 15:35
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Hi John/all
ok I've been testing further and there are too many variables to conclude
for sure but here's a summary...

Have been testing with 2.1 branch from git As far as I can tell there's
definitely a problem with IE 10 which in my case doesn't occur with IE 11 or
other browsers Have tested with two separate Windows 7 installs with IE 10
and can reproduce the problem with both IE10's and via xampp as well as an
online linux install the same installs work fine via IE 11 and also as
decribed previously earlier XOT code works fine with the same IE 10 I've
been testing the local xampp installs via guest auth and the online installs
via moodle so the authentication method doesn't seem important

If you have IE10 and access to the server we used previously for testing
updates you can test as follows:
1. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot (latest 2.1 branch) try creating a
project you should get a session error?
2. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/sandpit (earlier 2.1 branch) try
creating a project should work Other browsers should work fine on both
installs although curious as to whether Julian or anyone else gets session
errors with firefox?

Not sure if it's relevant or a problem just with the Win 7 via Parrallels I
was using on my Mac to test a second IE10 on a different pc but on that I
was also getting the following js error:

script16386: No such inteface supported

template_management.js, line182 character 7

As I say that may be a red herring but the error I can reproduce reliably
with latest 2.1 + IE10 but not previous 2.1 regardless of browser is:

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 09 April 2014 09:59
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Its possible i suppose but i would have thought that it would kill all
sessions equally...

until we can reproduce it is going to be really hard to track down...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII



"Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:


is there some whitespace in new commits messing up sessions?


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
wrote:
;-)

I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...

so 2 + 2 = ?
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ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
[J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is as
that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media
file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the
Flash Cookie bug anyway...

Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and Guest....

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
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Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed
around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new
code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does
it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has
also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From:
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ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
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Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From:
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ingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li
sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Thu Apr 10 21:45:42 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:45:42 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
In-Reply-To: <012001cf54fd$110ff030$332fd090$@co.uk>
References: <4ca7irrnu2qujy0q5h65y1qq.1397033635575@email.android.com>,
	<00b401cf54ca$11c78890$355699b0$@co.uk>,
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDFAF@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEB3917BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<012001cf54fd$110ff030$332fd090$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <012401cf54fd$d7aafc80$8700f580$@co.uk>

I should have added that I've removed that from the /xot install so that
won't give the IE 10 error now. But haven't committed that change.

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 10 April 2014 21:40
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Yep that's the culprit for the promlem with IE10!

https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/b0e4411c55a397
27d11003d0b6d9ed2ae8e57439

was:
<body onload="javascript:sort_display_settings()"  onselectstart="return
false;" onscroll="body_scroll()">

Currently in 2.1 branch: 
<body onload="javascript:sort_display_settings()"  onselectstart="return
false;" onscroll="body_scroll()" onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()">

removing onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()" stops the problem with IE 10.

But I guess that leaves us with the Firefox issue you tried to fix with
that?

Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 10 April 2014 21:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

I might have added some ode to try and force the logout, to kill the session
for next time, so if you find that, it was me... I don't think it works. I
didn't think I'd checked it in though?
________________________________________
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[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
[J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
Sent: 10 April 2014 20:07
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Hi Ron,

Well, further to your testing I was now able to reproduce the problem on
BrowserStack using IE10.

What I am seeing (hopefully you can confirm) is that when you click create
3x files load asynchronously and one of them is logout.php... (see
screenshot) but its not the same files as on the older sandpit install.

I'm not sure yet why it is loading that file though or indeed why it is not
doing it in other browsers but we're a step closer to locating the problem.
It must be in a recent change to the javascript though so at least its
closer to being tracked down.

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
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[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
[ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 10 April 2014 15:35
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Hi John/all
ok I've been testing further and there are too many variables to conclude
for sure but here's a summary...

Have been testing with 2.1 branch from git As far as I can tell there's
definitely a problem with IE 10 which in my case doesn't occur with IE 11 or
other browsers Have tested with two separate Windows 7 installs with IE 10
and can reproduce the problem with both IE10's and via xampp as well as an
online linux install the same installs work fine via IE 11 and also as
decribed previously earlier XOT code works fine with the same IE 10 I've
been testing the local xampp installs via guest auth and the online installs
via moodle so the authentication method doesn't seem important

If you have IE10 and access to the server we used previously for testing
updates you can test as follows:
1. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot (latest 2.1 branch) try creating a
project you should get a session error?
2. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/sandpit (earlier 2.1 branch) try
creating a project should work Other browsers should work fine on both
installs although curious as to whether Julian or anyone else gets session
errors with firefox?

Not sure if it's relevant or a problem just with the Win 7 via Parrallels I
was using on my Mac to test a second IE10 on a different pc but on that I
was also getting the following js error:

script16386: No such inteface supported

template_management.js, line182 character 7

As I say that may be a red herring but the error I can reproduce reliably
with latest 2.1 + IE10 but not previous 2.1 regardless of browser is:

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 09 April 2014 09:59
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Its possible i suppose but i would have thought that it would kill all
sessions equally...

until we can reproduce it is going to be really hard to track down...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII



"Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:


is there some whitespace in new commits messing up sessions?


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
wrote:
;-)

I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...

so 2 + 2 = ?
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ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
[J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is as
that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media
file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the
Flash Cookie bug anyway...

Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and Guest....

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
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ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed
around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new
code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does
it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has
also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
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ingham.ac.uk>
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tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
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Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From:
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ingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li
sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Thu Apr 10 21:51:20 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:51:20 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
Message-ID: <xjqjuy4p8kr77qkea4fobmyp.1397163080420@email.android.com>

Well, lets keep up the momentum and try to reproduce Julian's firefox issue although i've never seen it. Has anyone else?

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII


Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:


Yep that's the culprit for the promlem with IE10!

https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/b0e4411c55a397
27d11003d0b6d9ed2ae8e57439

was:
<body onload="javascript:sort_display_settings()"  onselectstart="return
false;" onscroll="body_scroll()">

Currently in 2.1 branch:
<body onload="javascript:sort_display_settings()"  onselectstart="return
false;" onscroll="body_scroll()" onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()">

removing onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()" stops the problem with IE 10.

But I guess that leaves us with the Firefox issue you tried to fix with
that?

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 10 April 2014 21:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

I might have added some ode to try and force the logout, to kill the session
for next time, so if you find that, it was me... I don't think it works. I
didn't think I'd checked it in though?
________________________________________
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[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
[J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
Sent: 10 April 2014 20:07
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Hi Ron,

Well, further to your testing I was now able to reproduce the problem on
BrowserStack using IE10.

What I am seeing (hopefully you can confirm) is that when you click create
3x files load asynchronously and one of them is logout.php... (see
screenshot) but its not the same files as on the older sandpit install.

I'm not sure yet why it is loading that file though or indeed why it is not
doing it in other browsers but we're a step closer to locating the problem.
It must be in a recent change to the javascript though so at least its
closer to being tracked down.

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
[ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 10 April 2014 15:35
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

Hi John/all
ok I've been testing further and there are too many variables to conclude
for sure but here's a summary...

Have been testing with 2.1 branch from git As far as I can tell there's
definitely a problem with IE 10 which in my case doesn't occur with IE 11 or
other browsers Have tested with two separate Windows 7 installs with IE 10
and can reproduce the problem with both IE10's and via xampp as well as an
online linux install the same installs work fine via IE 11 and also as
decribed previously earlier XOT code works fine with the same IE 10 I've
been testing the local xampp installs via guest auth and the online installs
via moodle so the authentication method doesn't seem important

If you have IE10 and access to the server we used previously for testing
updates you can test as follows:
1. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot (latest 2.1 branch) try creating a
project you should get a session error?
2. Visit http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/sandpit (earlier 2.1 branch) try
creating a project should work Other browsers should work fine on both
installs although curious as to whether Julian or anyone else gets session
errors with firefox?

Not sure if it's relevant or a problem just with the Win 7 via Parrallels I
was using on my Mac to test a second IE10 on a different pc but on that I
was also getting the following js error:

script16386: No such inteface supported

template_management.js, line182 character 7

As I say that may be a red herring but the error I can reproduce reliably
with latest 2.1 + IE10 but not previous 2.1 regardless of browser is:

Session ID not set

HTH
Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 09 April 2014 09:59
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Its possible i suppose but i would have thought that it would kill all
sessions equally...

until we can reproduce it is going to be really hard to track down...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII



"Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:


is there some whitespace in new commits messing up sessions?


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
wrote:
;-)

I just remember some stuff changing around then about sessions...

so 2 + 2 = ?
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ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
[J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 17:20
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I know you WANT it to be related to the upload code ;-) but I doubt it is as
that is not touched after login until you actually edit and upload a media
file... Ron is seeing it in IE10 which I don't think is affected by the
Flash Cookie bug anyway...

Doesn't seem to be any commonality yet: Firefox and IE10, LDAP and Guest....

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 15:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

No, it's FF, and I'm fairly sure it's related to the stuff that changed
around file uploads: at least that's when it first appeared,

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ingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk%3Cmailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li>
sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Ah well it looks like this was in the zipping code which preceded the new
code that Tom implemented recently, to remove some dependency...

Hmmm, we really need to get to the bottom of that session id problem. Does
it do it in every browser?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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ingham.ac.uk>
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tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:33
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Yeah sorry the xyz... was just my representation of a series of numbers
followed by .zip

My test of the latest code was on xampp only. I'll test again but Julian has
also reported session id not set issues.

Cheers
Ron


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ingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk%3Cmailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li>
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Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From:
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ingham.ac.uk>
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.not
tingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From:
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ingham.ac.uk>
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk%3Cmailto:xerte-dev-bounces at li>
sts.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
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In-Reply-To: <xjqjuy4p8kr77qkea4fobmyp.1397163080420@email.android.com>
References: <xjqjuy4p8kr77qkea4fobmyp.1397163080420@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <AAF8AB99-FECF-4351-AA0E-94A074EAC894@mitchellmedia.co.uk>

No I haven't been able to replicate that Firefox issue Julian was getting but then I haven't been regularly using the very latest revisions.

Will test further tomorrow but curious whether that happens regardless of authentication method? Eg wondered if was ldap specific?

Ron

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 Apr 2014, at 21:51, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Well, lets keep up the momentum and try to reproduce Julian's firefox issue although i've never seen it. Has anyone else?
> 
> Regards
> 
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
> 
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
> 
> 
> Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yep that's the culprit for the promlem with IE10!
> 
> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/b0e4411c55a397
> 27d11003d0b6d9ed2ae8e57439
> 
> was:
> <body onload="javascript:sort_display_settings()"  onselectstart="return
> false;" onscroll="body_scroll()">
> 
> Currently in 2.1 branch:
> <body onload="javascript:sort_display_settings()"  onselectstart="return
> false;" onscroll="body_scroll()" onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()">
> 
> removing onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()" stops the problem with IE 10.
> 
> But I guess that leaves us with the Firefox issue you tried to fix with
> that?
> 
> Ron
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 10 April 2014 21:17
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
> 
> I might have added some ode to try and force the logout, to kill the session
> for next time, so if you find that, it was me... I don't think it works. I
> didn't think I'd checked it in though?
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
> Sent: 10 April 2014 20:07
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> Well, further to your testing I was now able to reproduce the problem on
> BrowserStack using IE10.
> 
> What I am seeing (hopefully you can confirm) is that when you click create
> 3x files load asynchronously and one of them is logout.php... (see
> screenshot) but its not the same files as on the older sandpit install.
> 
> I'm not sure yet why it is loading that file though or indeed why it is not
> doing it in other browsers but we're a step closer to locating the problem.
> It must be in a recent change to the javascript though so at least its
> closer to being tracked down.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Smith | Learning


From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Thu Apr 10 22:03:43 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 22:03:43 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
In-Reply-To: <AAF8AB99-FECF-4351-AA0E-94A074EAC894@mitchellmedia.co.uk>
References: <xjqjuy4p8kr77qkea4fobmyp.1397163080420@email.android.com>,
	<AAF8AB99-FECF-4351-AA0E-94A074EAC894@mitchellmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEB3917C0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>

sorry about that!
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 10 April 2014 22:01
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue

No I haven't been able to replicate that Firefox issue Julian was getting but then I haven't been regularly using the very latest revisions.

Will test further tomorrow but curious whether that happens regardless of authentication method? Eg wondered if was ldap specific?

Ron

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 Apr 2014, at 21:51, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Well, lets keep up the momentum and try to reproduce Julian's firefox issue although i've never seen it. Has anyone else?
>
> Regards
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>
>
> Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Yep that's the culprit for the promlem with IE10!
>
> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/commit/b0e4411c55a397
> 27d11003d0b6d9ed2ae8e57439
>
> was:
> <body onload="javascript:sort_display_settings()"  onselectstart="return
> false;" onscroll="body_scroll()">
>
> Currently in 2.1 branch:
> <body onload="javascript:sort_display_settings()"  onselectstart="return
> false;" onscroll="body_scroll()" onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()">
>
> removing onbeforeunload="javascript:logout()" stops the problem with IE 10.
>
> But I guess that leaves us with the Firefox issue you tried to fix with
> that?
>
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 10 April 2014 21:17
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
>
> I might have added some ode to try and force the logout, to kill the session
> for next time, so if you find that, it was me... I don't think it works. I
> didn't think I'd checked it in though?
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
> Sent: 10 April 2014 20:07
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> Well, further to your testing I was now able to reproduce the problem on
> BrowserStack using IE10.
>
> What I am seeing (hopefully you can confirm) is that when you click create
> 3x files load asynchronously and one of them is logout.php... (see
> screenshot) but its not the same files as on the older sandpit install.
>
> I'm not sure yet why it is loading that file though or indeed why it is not
> doing it in other browsers but we're a step closer to locating the problem.
> It must be in a recent change to the javascript though so at least its
> closer to being tracked down.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning

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From Andrew.Gold at manchester.ac.uk  Thu Apr 17 12:25:36 2014
From: Andrew.Gold at manchester.ac.uk (Andrew Gold)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:25:36 +0000
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Toolkits not working with firefox 24 and later
Message-ID: <A8D450271314244AA7DDE9460132D22601454C7DDD@MBXP05.ds.man.ac.uk>

Having recently upgraded my Firefox browser to 24 I'm getting the following error message:

Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to xerte.humanities.manchester.ac.uk.
Peer's Certificate has been revoked.
(Error code: sec_error_revoked_certificate)

*         The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.

*         Please contact the web site owners to inform them of this problem. Alternatively, use the command found in the help menu to report this broken site.

Apparently, the workaround is to stop using OCSP to confirm the validity of certificates for certificate validation.

I'm not sure if this is a feature of our local installation of Xerte Toolkits, but can I ask if Xerte Toolkits code could be amended in the relevant php file to accommodate Firefox?  Otherwise, Toolkits becomes unusable with a popular (with some) browser (unless security settings are reduced).

Kind Regards,

Andrew Gold, Learning Technologist, University of Manchester


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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk  Thu Apr 17 15:08:54 2014
From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:08:54 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits not working with firefox 24 and later
In-Reply-To: <A8D450271314244AA7DDE9460132D22601454C7DDD@MBXP05.ds.man.ac.uk>
References: <A8D450271314244AA7DDE9460132D22601454C7DDD@MBXP05.ds.man.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFBC100DD@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>

Hi Andrew,

This doesn't seem to be specific to Xerte but to the certificate that is being used to authenticate the https connection that that server is running. It is not fixable by patching any php code.

This should be raised by the server administrator as it is a server issue.

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andrew Gold [Andrew.Gold at manchester.ac.uk]
Sent: 17 April 2014 12:25
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Toolkits not working with firefox 24 and later

Having recently upgraded my Firefox browser to 24 I?m getting the following error message:

Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to xerte.humanities.manchester.ac.uk.
Peer's Certificate has been revoked.
(Error code: sec_error_revoked_certificate)

?         The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.

?         Please contact the web site owners to inform them of this problem. Alternatively, use the command found in the help menu to report this broken site.

Apparently, the workaround is to stop using OCSP to confirm the validity of certificates for certificate validation.

I?m not sure if this is a feature of our local installation of Xerte Toolkits, but can I ask if Xerte Toolkits code could be amended in the relevant php file to accommodate Firefox?  Otherwise, Toolkits becomes unusable with a popular (with some) browser (unless security settings are reduced).

Kind Regards,

Andrew Gold, Learning Technologist, University of Manchester




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From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com  Fri Apr 18 10:54:33 2014
From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:54:33 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits not working with firefox 24 and later
In-Reply-To: <A8D450271314244AA7DDE9460132D22601454C7DDD@MBXP05.ds.man.ac.uk>
References: <A8D450271314244AA7DDE9460132D22601454C7DDD@MBXP05.ds.man.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAO2PinMH1QypCeycCL9xOE7HcMZ4FjRDazhZUdCQL5+EkpXcBw@mail.gmail.com>

if it isn't heartbleed - then

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=xerte.humanities.manchester.ac.uk

http://nigelball.org/2010/01/28/firefox-sec_error_revoked_certificate-issue

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/856276

None seem perfect or ideal - but it does seem to be a server admin thing,
really can't see this being code.

Pat


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Andrew Gold
<Andrew.Gold at manchester.ac.uk>wrote:

>  Having recently upgraded my Firefox browser to 24 I?m getting the
> following error message:
>
>
>
> Secure Connection Failed
>
> An error occurred during a connection to xerte.humanities.manchester.ac.uk.
>
>
> Peer's Certificate has been revoked.
>
> (Error code: sec_error_revoked_certificate)
>
> ?         The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
>
> ?         Please contact the web site owners to inform them of this
> problem. Alternatively, use the command found in the help menu to report
> this broken site.
>
>
>
> Apparently, the workaround is to stop using OCSP to confirm the validity
> of certificates for certificate validation.
>
>
>
> I?m not sure if this is a feature of our local installation of Xerte
> Toolkits, but can I ask if Xerte Toolkits code could be amended in the
> relevant php file to accommodate Firefox?  Otherwise, Toolkits becomes
> unusable with a popular (with some) browser (unless security settings are
> reduced).
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Andrew Gold, Learning Technologist, University of Manchester
>
>
>
>
>
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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Mon Apr 28 09:59:11 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 09:59:11 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 engine original button masters?
Message-ID: <006c01cf62c0$23697370$6a3c5a50$@co.uk>

Hi

I think I asked this once before but quite a while ago. are the original
button masters for the HTML 5 playback interface available anywhere? e.g.
psd files or whatever doc format used to create them in the first place?
Fireworks, Illustrator etc?

Cheers

Ron

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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Mon Apr 28 11:10:11 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:10:11 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 engine original button masters?
In-Reply-To: <006c01cf62c0$23697370$6a3c5a50$@co.uk>
References: <006c01cf62c0$23697370$6a3c5a50$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEC8D42C6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>

I'll have a look,

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 28 April 2014 09:59
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 engine original button masters?

Hi
I think I asked this once before but quite a while ago... are the original button masters for the HTML 5 playback interface available anywhere? e.g. psd files or whatever doc format used to create them in the first place? Fireworks, Illustrator etc?
Cheers
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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Mon Apr 28 14:33:21 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 14:33:21 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 engine original button masters?
In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEC8D42C6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <006c01cf62c0$23697370$6a3c5a50$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEC8D42C6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEC8D4442@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>

I can't find them. Nuno has left us now, and I have no idea where he put stuff. I'll keep looking.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 28 April 2014 11:10
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 engine original button masters?

I'll have a look,

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 28 April 2014 09:59
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 engine original button masters?

Hi
I think I asked this once before but quite a while ago... are the original button masters for the HTML 5 playback interface available anywhere? e.g. psd files or whatever doc format used to create them in the first place? Fireworks, Illustrator etc?
Cheers
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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Mon Apr 28 14:49:40 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 14:49:40 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 engine original button masters?
In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEC8D4442@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <006c01cf62c0$23697370$6a3c5a50$@co.uk>	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEC8D42C6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEC8D4442@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <01d801cf62e8$b7b179b0$27146d10$@co.uk>

Cheers it would be very useful if you can find them at some point. 

Easy enough to create an alternative set with new/different buttons but
there are some disadvantages to that too epsecially where all that's
required is different header/footer colour and matching buttons.

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 28 April 2014 14:33
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 engine original button masters?

 

I can't find them. Nuno has left us now, and I have no idea where he put
stuff. I'll keep looking.

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 28 April 2014 11:10
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 engine original button masters?

 

I'll have a look,

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 28 April 2014 09:59
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 engine original button masters?

 

Hi

I think I asked this once before but quite a while ago. are the original
button masters for the HTML 5 playback interface available anywhere? e.g.
psd files or whatever doc format used to create them in the first place?
Fireworks, Illustrator etc?

Cheers

Ron

 

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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk  Mon Apr 28 15:17:33 2014
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:17:33 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 engine original button masters?
In-Reply-To: <01d801cf62e8$b7b179b0$27146d10$@co.uk>
References: <006c01cf62c0$23697370$6a3c5a50$@co.uk>
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEC8D42C6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
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Ah, thanks to Nikodem: this is what we have:

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/html5.zip



From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 28 April 2014 14:50
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 engine original button masters?

Cheers it would be very useful if you can find them at some point.
Easy enough to create an alternative set with new/different buttons but there are some disadvantages to that too epsecially where all that's required is different header/footer colour and matching buttons.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 28 April 2014 14:33
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 engine original button masters?

I can't find them. Nuno has left us now, and I have no idea where he put stuff. I'll keep looking.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 28 April 2014 11:10
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 engine original button masters?

I'll have a look,

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 28 April 2014 09:59
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 engine original button masters?

Hi
I think I asked this once before but quite a while ago... are the original button masters for the HTML 5 playback interface available anywhere? e.g. psd files or whatever doc format used to create them in the first place? Fireworks, Illustrator etc?
Cheers
Ron


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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Wed Apr 30 11:02:00 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 11:02:00 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] example_zipper issue revisited
In-Reply-To: <EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>,
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>
	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <006b01cf645b$3b70e650$b252b2f0$@co.uk>

Hi all
I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large files
are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an issue
going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
project folders. So testing and questions...

What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them in the
zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.

Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?

Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings and if
so what are the relevant settings?

Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?

Cheers
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From david at palepurple.co.uk  Wed Apr 30 11:15:49 2014
From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 11:15:49 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
In-Reply-To: <006b01cf645b$3b70e650$b252b2f0$@co.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>,
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>
	<006b01cf645b$3b70e650$b252b2f0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <5360CD55.9000705@palepurple.co.uk>

I've seen issues with exporting large LOs via SCORM which trigger PHP to 
abort when it hits a memory limit.

This was in website_code/php/scorm/archive.php approx line 330 from memory.

One solution is to just increase the server memory limit.
Perhaps removing the debug calls around those lines would help.

David.

On 30/04/14 11:02, Ron Mitchell wrote:
> Hi all
> I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
> hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
> but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large files
> are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
> it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an issue
> going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
> project folders. So testing and questions...
>
> What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
> exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
> the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
> larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
> example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them in the
> zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
> I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.
>
> Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?
>
> Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings and if
> so what are the relevant settings?
>
> Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>

-- 
Pale Purple Ltd

PHP Web application development and support

http://www.palepurple.co.uk
@PalePurpleLtd
07792 380669 / 0845 0046746


From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Wed Apr 30 11:48:39 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 11:48:39 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
In-Reply-To: <5360CD55.9000705@palepurple.co.uk>
References: <009701cf5325$4e6040e0$eb20c2a0$@co.uk>,
	<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0CEBBA7B4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>	<EE0B2AFFDB88B34AA864E00CE98914C22BFADBDF5F@ITSEMBXCLUS.enterprise.gcal.ac.uk>	<006b01cf645b$3b70e650$b252b2f0$@co.uk>
	<5360CD55.9000705@palepurple.co.uk>
Message-ID: <007d01cf6461$bfdc60d0$3f952270$@co.uk>

I wondered about that (had a similar issue with a Wordpress install needing
memory limit increased recently) but with XOT this seems a relatively new
issue e.g. on servers where this wasn't a problem previously with earlier
versions.

Will do some further testing but useful to hear from Tom and also if others
are seeing the same problem with current 2.1?

Cheers
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 30 April 2014 11:16
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

I've seen issues with exporting large LOs via SCORM which trigger PHP to
abort when it hits a memory limit.

This was in website_code/php/scorm/archive.php approx line 330 from memory.

One solution is to just increase the server memory limit.
Perhaps removing the debug calls around those lines would help.

David.

On 30/04/14 11:02, Ron Mitchell wrote:
> Hi all
> I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and 
> had hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would 
> be fixed but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up 
> when large files are included or with certain php or server 
> configurations etc or perhaps it's been fixed in develop but not 
> applied to 2.1? This may also be an issue going unoticed to some 
> extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in project folders. So
testing and questions...
>
> What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that 
> exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files 
> left on the server or included in the zip download. However if a 
> project includes larger media files it either doesn't export or when 
> it does it leaves example_zipper files in the project folder as well 
> as including them in the zip download. I'm not sure where small - 
> large overlaps but for instance I've been testing export of a project
containing a 60MB mp4.
>
> Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?
>
> Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings 
> and if so what are the relevant settings?
>
> Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>

--
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PHP Web application development and support

http://www.palepurple.co.uk
@PalePurpleLtd
07792 380669 / 0845 0046746

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From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com  Wed Apr 30 18:52:33 2014
From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:52:33 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
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Does exampler_zipper appear in the code, it sounds like something I left
in.

I imagine it is a PHP timeout issue kicking in, or Memory being maxed out.

The zip script it supposed to do a clean up. Maybe do it before export now
as well


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>wrote:

> Hi all
> I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
> hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
> but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large
> files
> are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
> it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an
> issue
> going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
> project folders. So testing and questions...
>
> What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
> exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
> the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
> larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
> example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them in the
> zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
> I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.
>
> Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?
>
> Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings and if
> so what are the relevant settings?
>
> Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
> mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...
>
> the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
> (
> https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
> erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
> Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow
> Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
> in.
>
> I don't recognise 2.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
> Mitchell
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Hi all
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got
> lost
> in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
> separate issue I've noticed.
>
> Issue 1
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
> community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
> minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
> trying to create a new lo:
> Session ID not set
> or
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
> example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
> export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that
> doesn't
> have the session issue above?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
>
>
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From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com  Wed Apr 30 18:53:32 2014
From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:53:32 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
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is export exporting more now? All the JMOL stuff?


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Pat L (pgogy) <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>wrote:

> Does exampler_zipper appear in the code, it sounds like something I left
> in.
>
> I imagine it is a PHP timeout issue kicking in, or Memory being maxed out.
>
> The zip script it supposed to do a clean up. Maybe do it before export now
> as well
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>> I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
>> hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
>> but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large
>> files
>> are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
>> it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an
>> issue
>> going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
>> project folders. So testing and questions...
>>
>> What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
>> exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
>> the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
>> larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
>> example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them in
>> the
>> zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
>> I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.
>>
>> Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?
>>
>> Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings and
>> if
>> so what are the relevant settings?
>>
>> Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ron
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith,
>> John
>> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>>
>> I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
>> mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...
>>
>> the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
>> (
>> https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
>> erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696<https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/xerte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696>)
>> with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
>> Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John Smith | Learning Technologist
>> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
>> Glasgow
>> Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
>> ________________________________________
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
>> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>>
>> Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my
>> head
>> in.
>>
>> I don't recognise 2.
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>> Mitchell
>> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue
>>
>> Hi all
>> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got
>> lost
>> in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with
>> a
>> separate issue I've noticed.
>>
>> Issue 1
>> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from
>> the
>> community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
>> minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
>> trying to create a new lo:
>> Session ID not set
>> or
>> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>>
>> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>>
>> Issue 2
>> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
>> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
>> example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
>> export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.
>>
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From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:58:23 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
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Yep it's in 2.1 https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php line 61 <https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php%20line%2061> 

 

and in develop too:  https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php line 61 <https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php%20line%2061> 

 

I've been testing further on a server where I can change anything and it does seem like increasing memory_limit resolves the issue but I'm not sure what the equation would be for file size v required limit or if any of the other php settings have a part to play too. I can't be sure but this seems like a relatively new issue too.  My tests so far?

 

1. Small projects don't seem to be a problem - no example_zipper created and projects export ok.

 

2. I was alerted to the problem again by a user of the Techdis sandpit who reported not being able to export here project yet was able to previously. The particular project included a 62MB mp4 so that's what I've been testing with now but on a different server. On this server with the memory_limit set to 128MB example_zipper files were created and part of the exported zip as well as left on the server.

 

3. Increasing the memory_limit to 300MB enable the export to work and no example_zipper created.

 

4. I mentioned I had a similar issue with a Wordpress install recently where the server host had to increase the memory_limit and in that case to 256MB and that seems to be a regular problem especially for people on shared hosting where they can't change the memory limit themselves. 128MB seems to be the default but I guess it could vary quite a bit depending on hosts.

 

5. What I'm not sure about is if this is a new problem due to changes in Xerte code and whether it's been fixed previously as I think John suggested.?

 

6. There are so many variables here I can't test reliably without others testing too e.g. I don't know if the combined file size with lots of smaller files gives the same  result as this single 62MB file or if other PHP settings also have a part to play. My fear is that we don't know how big the problem is. Partly because export isn't as common as just creating and linking and that together with project size variation, settings variation etc and perhaps some not knowing that these files even exist means it could be quite common without many knowing.

 

Ron

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 30 April 2014 18:53
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

 

Does exampler_zipper appear in the code, it sounds like something I left in. 

 

I imagine it is a PHP timeout issue kicking in, or Memory being maxed out.

 

The zip script it supposed to do a clean up. Maybe do it before export now as well

 

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Hi all
I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large files
are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an issue
going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
project folders. So testing and questions...

What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them in the
zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.

Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?

Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings and if
so what are the relevant settings?

Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?

Cheers
Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x <https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/xerte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696> 
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Wed Apr 30 20:01:06 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 20:01:06 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
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Those links seem to have got combined and broke :-(

https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php 

 

https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php 

 

Both line 61

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 30 April 2014 19:58
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

 

Yep it's in 2.1 https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php line 61 <https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php%20line%2061> 

 

and in develop too:  https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php line 61 <https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php%20line%2061> 

 

I've been testing further on a server where I can change anything and it does seem like increasing memory_limit resolves the issue but I'm not sure what the equation would be for file size v required limit or if any of the other php settings have a part to play too. I can't be sure but this seems like a relatively new issue too.  My tests so far?

 

1. Small projects don't seem to be a problem - no example_zipper created and projects export ok.

 

2. I was alerted to the problem again by a user of the Techdis sandpit who reported not being able to export here project yet was able to previously. The particular project included a 62MB mp4 so that's what I've been testing with now but on a different server. On this server with the memory_limit set to 128MB example_zipper files were created and part of the exported zip as well as left on the server.

 

3. Increasing the memory_limit to 300MB enable the export to work and no example_zipper created.

 

4. I mentioned I had a similar issue with a Wordpress install recently where the server host had to increase the memory_limit and in that case to 256MB and that seems to be a regular problem especially for people on shared hosting where they can't change the memory limit themselves. 128MB seems to be the default but I guess it could vary quite a bit depending on hosts.

 

5. What I'm not sure about is if this is a new problem due to changes in Xerte code and whether it's been fixed previously as I think John suggested.?

 

6. There are so many variables here I can't test reliably without others testing too e.g. I don't know if the combined file size with lots of smaller files gives the same  result as this single 62MB file or if other PHP settings also have a part to play. My fear is that we don't know how big the problem is. Partly because export isn't as common as just creating and linking and that together with project size variation, settings variation etc and perhaps some not knowing that these files even exist means it could be quite common without many knowing.

 

Ron

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 30 April 2014 18:53
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

 

Does exampler_zipper appear in the code, it sounds like something I left in. 

 

I imagine it is a PHP timeout issue kicking in, or Memory being maxed out.

 

The zip script it supposed to do a clean up. Maybe do it before export now as well

 

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Hi all
I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large files
are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an issue
going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
project folders. So testing and questions...

What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them in the
zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.

Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?

Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings and if
so what are the relevant settings?

Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?

Cheers
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x <https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/xerte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696> 
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:03:01 +0100
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It's not the code, it's the file sizes.
MP4s will be bigger when zipped than they are as files
Example zipper is the temp file name the code uses, i assume when it runs
out of memory it dumps the file.
There is a logic to doing a file size check before exporting and warning
with large files



On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>wrote:

> Yep it's in 2.1 https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php
> line 61
>
>
>
> and in develop too:  https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php
> line 61
>
>
>
> I've been testing further on a server where I can change anything and it
> does seem like increasing memory_limit resolves the issue but I'm not sure
> what the equation would be for file size v required limit or if any of the
> other php settings have a part to play too. I can't be sure but this seems
> like a relatively new issue too.  My tests so far?
>
>
>
> 1. Small projects don't seem to be a problem - no example_zipper created
> and projects export ok.
>
>
>
> 2. I was alerted to the problem again by a user of the Techdis sandpit who
> reported not being able to export here project yet was able to previously.
> The particular project included a 62MB mp4 so that's what I've been testing
> with now but on a different server. On this server with the memory_limit
> set to 128MB example_zipper files were created and part of the exported zip
> as well as left on the server.
>
>
>
> 3. Increasing the memory_limit to 300MB enable the export to work and no
> example_zipper created.
>
>
>
> 4. I mentioned I had a similar issue with a Wordpress install recently
> where the server host had to increase the memory_limit and in that case to
> 256MB and that seems to be a regular problem especially for people on
> shared hosting where they can't change the memory limit themselves. 128MB
> seems to be the default but I guess it could vary quite a bit depending on
> hosts.
>
>
>
> 5. What I'm not sure about is if this is a new problem due to changes in
> Xerte code and whether it's been fixed previously as I think John
> suggested.?
>
>
>
> 6. There are so many variables here I can't test reliably without others
> testing too e.g. I don't know if the combined file size with lots of
> smaller files gives the same  result as this single 62MB file or if other
> PHP settings also have a part to play. My fear is that we don't know how
> big the problem is. Partly because export isn't as common as just creating
> and linking and that together with project size variation, settings
> variation etc and perhaps some not knowing that these files even exist
> means it could be quite common without many knowing.
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Pat L (pgogy)
> *Sent:* 30 April 2014 18:53
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
>
>
>
> Does exampler_zipper appear in the code, it sounds like something I left
> in.
>
>
>
> I imagine it is a PHP timeout issue kicking in, or Memory being maxed out.
>
>
>
> The zip script it supposed to do a clean up. Maybe do it before export now
> as well
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all
> I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
> hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
> but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large
> files
> are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
> it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an
> issue
> going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
> project folders. So testing and questions...
>
> What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
> exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
> the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
> larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
> example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them in the
> zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
> I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.
>
> Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?
>
> Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings and if
> so what are the relevant settings?
>
> Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
> mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...
>
> the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
> (
> https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
> erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
> Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow
> Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
> in.
>
> I don't recognise 2.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
> Mitchell
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Hi all
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got
> lost
> in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
> separate issue I've noticed.
>
> Issue 1
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
> community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
> minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
> trying to create a new lo:
> Session ID not set
> or
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
> example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
> export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that
> doesn't
> have the session issue above?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
>
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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Wed Apr 30 21:09:29 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:09:29 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
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Just confirmed that changing memory_limit to 300MB fixes the issue for a project containing a 62MB file. This was on the sandpit server using the same project reported as being problematic. I changed the memory_limit to 256MB first (from 128MB) and it failed to export* and generated a whole load of example_zippers in the project folder. Cleared those out, changed the memory_limit to 300MB and export worked fine without generating example_zipper files.

 

*To be fair I didn't check to see if there were example_zipper files already in place from previous tests after changing to 256MB but certainly 300MB works for this file size.

 

I think a key question is whether there is a solution to this that doesn't require changes to memory_limit? I don't remember seeing this issue previously even with large projects.

 

Ron

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 30 April 2014 20:01
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'; xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

 

Those links seem to have got combined and broke :-(

https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php 

 

https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php 

 

Both line 61

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 30 April 2014 19:58
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

 

Yep it's in 2.1 https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php line 61 <https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php%20line%2061> 

 

and in develop too:  https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php line 61 <https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php%20line%2061> 

 

I've been testing further on a server where I can change anything and it does seem like increasing memory_limit resolves the issue but I'm not sure what the equation would be for file size v required limit or if any of the other php settings have a part to play too. I can't be sure but this seems like a relatively new issue too.  My tests so far?

 

1. Small projects don't seem to be a problem - no example_zipper created and projects export ok.

 

2. I was alerted to the problem again by a user of the Techdis sandpit who reported not being able to export here project yet was able to previously. The particular project included a 62MB mp4 so that's what I've been testing with now but on a different server. On this server with the memory_limit set to 128MB example_zipper files were created and part of the exported zip as well as left on the server.

 

3. Increasing the memory_limit to 300MB enable the export to work and no example_zipper created.

 

4. I mentioned I had a similar issue with a Wordpress install recently where the server host had to increase the memory_limit and in that case to 256MB and that seems to be a regular problem especially for people on shared hosting where they can't change the memory limit themselves. 128MB seems to be the default but I guess it could vary quite a bit depending on hosts.

 

5. What I'm not sure about is if this is a new problem due to changes in Xerte code and whether it's been fixed previously as I think John suggested.?

 

6. There are so many variables here I can't test reliably without others testing too e.g. I don't know if the combined file size with lots of smaller files gives the same  result as this single 62MB file or if other PHP settings also have a part to play. My fear is that we don't know how big the problem is. Partly because export isn't as common as just creating and linking and that together with project size variation, settings variation etc and perhaps some not knowing that these files even exist means it could be quite common without many knowing.

 

Ron

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 30 April 2014 18:53
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

 

Does exampler_zipper appear in the code, it sounds like something I left in. 

 

I imagine it is a PHP timeout issue kicking in, or Memory being maxed out.

 

The zip script it supposed to do a clean up. Maybe do it before export now as well

 

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Hi all
I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large files
are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an issue
going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
project folders. So testing and questions...

What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them in the
zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.

Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?

Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings and if
so what are the relevant settings?

Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?

Cheers
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x <https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/xerte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696> 
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 30 21:09:49 2014
From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:09:49 -0400
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
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The only solution I ran across was a pretty rough one.Check the file sizes and warn the user it may not export correctly.
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:09:29 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

Just confirmed that changing memory_limit to 300MB fixes the issue for a project containing a 62MB file. This was on the sandpit server using the same project reported as being problematic. I changed the memory_limit to 256MB first (from 128MB) and it failed to export* and generated a whole load of example_zippers in the project folder. Cleared those out, changed the memory_limit to 300MB and export worked fine without generating example_zipper files. *To be fair I didn't check to see if there were example_zipper files already in place from previous tests after changing to 256MB but certainly 300MB works for this file size. I think a key question is whether there is a solution to this that doesn't require changes to memory_limit? I don't remember seeing this issue previously even with large projects. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 30 April 2014 20:01
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'; xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited Those links seem to have got combined and broke :-(https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php  https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php  Both line 61 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 30 April 2014 19:58
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited Yep it's in 2.1 https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php line 61 and in develop too:  https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php line 61 I've been testing further on a server where I can change anything and it does seem like increasing memory_limit resolves the issue but I'm not sure what the equation would be for file size v required limit or if any of the other php settings have a part to play too. I can't be sure but this seems like a relatively new issue too.  My tests so far? 1. Small projects don't seem to be a problem - no example_zipper created and projects export ok. 2. I was alerted to the problem again by a user of the Techdis sandpit who reported not being able to export here project yet was able to previously. The particular project included a 62MB mp4 so that's what I've been testing with now but on a different server. On this server with the memory_limit set to 128MB example_zipper files were created and part of the exported zip as well as left on the server. 3. Increasing the memory_limit to 300MB enable the export to work and no example_zipper created. 4. I mentioned I had a similar issue with a Wordpress install recently where the server host had to increase the memory_limit and in that case to 256MB and that seems to be a regular problem especially for people on shared hosting where they can't change the memory limit themselves. 128MB seems to be the default but I guess it could vary quite a bit depending on hosts. 5. What I'm not sure about is if this is a new problem due to changes in Xerte code and whether it's been fixed previously as I think John suggested.? 6. There are so many variables here I can't test reliably without others testing too e.g. I don't know if the combined file size with lots of smaller files gives the same  result as this single 62MB file or if other PHP settings also have a part to play. My fear is that we don't know how big the problem is. Partly because export isn't as common as just creating and linking and that together with project size variation, settings variation etc and perhaps some not knowing that these files even exist means it could be quite common without many knowing. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 30 April 2014 18:53
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited Does exampler_zipper appear in the code, it sounds like something I left in.  I imagine it is a PHP timeout issue kicking in, or Memory being maxed out. The zip script it supposed to do a clean up. Maybe do it before export now as well On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:Hi all
I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large files
are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an issue
going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
project folders. So testing and questions...

What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them in the
zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.

Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?

Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings and if
so what are the relevant settings?

Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?

Cheers
Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk  Wed Apr 30 21:16:28 2014
From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:16:28 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
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I don't think an alert is displayed to the user when it fails and the example_zipper files are left in the project folder and I think increase after each failed attempt.

 

I know on the one hand it's not best practice to upload mp4's direct and better to use a streaming server but there are obviously occasions where people do need to upload direct and 62MB as an example isn't exactly huge. 

 

Sounds like non-default memory_limit or at least increase from 128MB has become a system requirement? 

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 30 April 2014 21:03
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

 

It's not the code, it's the file sizes.

MP4s will be bigger when zipped than they are as files

Example zipper is the temp file name the code uses, i assume when it runs out of memory it dumps the file.

There is a logic to doing a file size check before exporting and warning with large files

 

 

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Yep it's in 2.1 https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php line 61 <https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php%20line%2061> 

 

and in develop too:  https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php line 61 <https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php%20line%2061> 

 

I've been testing further on a server where I can change anything and it does seem like increasing memory_limit resolves the issue but I'm not sure what the equation would be for file size v required limit or if any of the other php settings have a part to play too. I can't be sure but this seems like a relatively new issue too.  My tests so far?

 

1. Small projects don't seem to be a problem - no example_zipper created and projects export ok.

 

2. I was alerted to the problem again by a user of the Techdis sandpit who reported not being able to export here project yet was able to previously. The particular project included a 62MB mp4 so that's what I've been testing with now but on a different server. On this server with the memory_limit set to 128MB example_zipper files were created and part of the exported zip as well as left on the server.

 

3. Increasing the memory_limit to 300MB enable the export to work and no example_zipper created.

 

4. I mentioned I had a similar issue with a Wordpress install recently where the server host had to increase the memory_limit and in that case to 256MB and that seems to be a regular problem especially for people on shared hosting where they can't change the memory limit themselves. 128MB seems to be the default but I guess it could vary quite a bit depending on hosts.

 

5. What I'm not sure about is if this is a new problem due to changes in Xerte code and whether it's been fixed previously as I think John suggested.?

 

6. There are so many variables here I can't test reliably without others testing too e.g. I don't know if the combined file size with lots of smaller files gives the same  result as this single 62MB file or if other PHP settings also have a part to play. My fear is that we don't know how big the problem is. Partly because export isn't as common as just creating and linking and that together with project size variation, settings variation etc and perhaps some not knowing that these files even exist means it could be quite common without many knowing.

 

Ron

 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 30 April 2014 18:53
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

 

Does exampler_zipper appear in the code, it sounds like something I left in. 

 

I imagine it is a PHP timeout issue kicking in, or Memory being maxed out.

 

The zip script it supposed to do a clean up. Maybe do it before export now as well

 

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Hi all
I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large files
are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an issue
going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
project folders. So testing and questions...

What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them in the
zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.

Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?

Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings and if
so what are the relevant settings?

Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?

Cheers
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...

the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
(https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x <https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/xerte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696> 
erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
________________________________________
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
[Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue

Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
in.

I don't recognise 2.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue

Hi all
I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got lost
in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
separate issue I've noticed.

Issue 1
I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
trying to create a new lo:
Session ID not set
or
Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)

Q. Does this not happen for others?

Issue 2
In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.

Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that doesn't
have the session issue above?

Cheers
Ron




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From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:25:29 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fancy it
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http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/233-Automatic-Update-of-Packages-from-Version-Control-Repositories.html

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From reijnders at tor.nl  Wed Apr 30 21:53:54 2014
From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:53:54 +0200
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
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I thought I fixed this, but will check again.

Export used to build the zip in memory, but at some point I changed that 
to build the zip file on disk. Not sure why or how that got reverted (if 
that is the case).

Tom

Ron Mitchell schreef op 30-4-2014 22:16:
>
> I don't think an alert is displayed to the user when it fails and the 
> example_zipper files are left in the project folder and I think 
> increase after each failed attempt.
>
> I know on the one hand it's not best practice to upload mp4's direct 
> and better to use a streaming server but there are obviously occasions 
> where people do need to upload direct and 62MB as an example isn't 
> exactly huge.
>
> Sounds like non-default memory_limit or at least increase from 128MB 
> has become a system requirement?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Pat L 
> (pgogy)
> *Sent:* 30 April 2014 21:03
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
>
> It's not the code, it's the file sizes.
>
> MP4s will be bigger when zipped than they are as files
>
> Example zipper is the temp file name the code uses, i assume when it 
> runs out of memory it dumps the file.
>
> There is a logic to doing a file size check before exporting and 
> warning with large files
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Ron Mitchell 
> <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> Yep it's in 2.1 
> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php 
> line 61 
> <https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php%20line%2061>
>
> and in develop too: 
> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php 
> line 61 
> <https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php%20line%2061>
>
> I've been testing further on a server where I can change anything and 
> it does seem like increasing memory_limit resolves the issue but I'm 
> not sure what the equation would be for file size v required limit or 
> if any of the other php settings have a part to play too. I can't be 
> sure but this seems like a relatively new issue too.  My tests so far...
>
> 1. Small projects don't seem to be a problem - no example_zipper 
> created and projects export ok.
>
> 2. I was alerted to the problem again by a user of the Techdis sandpit 
> who reported not being able to export here project yet was able to 
> previously. The particular project included a 62MB mp4 so that's what 
> I've been testing with now but on a different server. On this server 
> with the memory_limit set to 128MB example_zipper files were created 
> and part of the exported zip as well as left on the server.
>
> 3. Increasing the memory_limit to 300MB enable the export to work and 
> no example_zipper created.
>
> 4. I mentioned I had a similar issue with a Wordpress install recently 
> where the server host had to increase the memory_limit and in that 
> case to 256MB and that seems to be a regular problem especially for 
> people on shared hosting where they can't change the memory limit 
> themselves. 128MB seems to be the default but I guess it could vary 
> quite a bit depending on hosts.
>
> 5. What I'm not sure about is if this is a new problem due to changes 
> in Xerte code and whether it's been fixed previously as I think John 
> suggested.?
>
> 6. There are so many variables here I can't test reliably without 
> others testing too e.g. I don't know if the combined file size with 
> lots of smaller files gives the same  result as this single 62MB file 
> or if other PHP settings also have a part to play. My fear is that we 
> don't know how big the problem is. Partly because export isn't as 
> common as just creating and linking and that together with project 
> size variation, settings variation etc and perhaps some not knowing 
> that these files even exist means it could be quite common without 
> many knowing.
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Pat 
> L (pgogy)
> *Sent:* 30 April 2014 18:53
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
>
> Does exampler_zipper appear in the code, it sounds like something I 
> left in.
>
> I imagine it is a PHP timeout issue kicking in, or Memory being maxed out.
>
> The zip script it supposed to do a clean up. Maybe do it before export 
> now as well
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ron Mitchell 
> <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> Hi all
> I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
> hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
> but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large 
> files
> are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
> it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an 
> issue
> going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
> project folders. So testing and questions...
>
> What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
> exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
> the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
> larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
> example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them 
> in the
> zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
> I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.
>
> Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?
>
> Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings 
> and if
> so what are the relevant settings?
>
> Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, 
> John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
> mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...
>
> the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
> (https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
> erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696 
> <https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/xerte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696>) 
> with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
> Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | 
> Glasgow
> Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian 
> Tenney
> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my 
> head
> in.
>
> I don't recognise 2.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron 
> Mitchell
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Hi all
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results 
> got lost
> in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along 
> with a
> separate issue I've noticed.
>
> Issue 1
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 
> from the
> community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
> minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
> trying to create a new lo:
> Session ID not set
> or
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
> example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
> export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that 
> doesn't
> have the session issue above?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
>
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From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy))
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:04:16 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
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62MB is a big MP4 - especially given the limits on display
128 might work, but memory_limit and max_execution_time problems are
dependent on uploads, so it is more likely to work, but not a guarantee -
so "requirement" is perhaps not enough


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>wrote:

> I don't think an alert is displayed to the user when it fails and the
> example_zipper files are left in the project folder and I think increase
> after each failed attempt.
>
>
>
> I know on the one hand it's not best practice to upload mp4's direct and
> better to use a streaming server but there are obviously occasions where
> people do need to upload direct and 62MB as an example isn't exactly huge.
>
>
>
> Sounds like non-default memory_limit or at least increase from 128MB has
> become a system requirement?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Pat L (pgogy)
> *Sent:* 30 April 2014 21:03
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
>
>
>
> It's not the code, it's the file sizes.
>
> MP4s will be bigger when zipped than they are as files
>
> Example zipper is the temp file name the code uses, i assume when it runs
> out of memory it dumps the file.
>
> There is a logic to doing a file size check before exporting and warning
> with large files
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Yep it's in 2.1 https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/2.1/modules/xerte/export.php
> line 61
>
>
>
> and in develop too:  https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/modules/xerte/export.php
> line 61
>
>
>
> I've been testing further on a server where I can change anything and it
> does seem like increasing memory_limit resolves the issue but I'm not sure
> what the equation would be for file size v required limit or if any of the
> other php settings have a part to play too. I can't be sure but this seems
> like a relatively new issue too.  My tests so far?
>
>
>
> 1. Small projects don't seem to be a problem - no example_zipper created
> and projects export ok.
>
>
>
> 2. I was alerted to the problem again by a user of the Techdis sandpit who
> reported not being able to export here project yet was able to previously.
> The particular project included a 62MB mp4 so that's what I've been testing
> with now but on a different server. On this server with the memory_limit
> set to 128MB example_zipper files were created and part of the exported zip
> as well as left on the server.
>
>
>
> 3. Increasing the memory_limit to 300MB enable the export to work and no
> example_zipper created.
>
>
>
> 4. I mentioned I had a similar issue with a Wordpress install recently
> where the server host had to increase the memory_limit and in that case to
> 256MB and that seems to be a regular problem especially for people on
> shared hosting where they can't change the memory limit themselves. 128MB
> seems to be the default but I guess it could vary quite a bit depending on
> hosts.
>
>
>
> 5. What I'm not sure about is if this is a new problem due to changes in
> Xerte code and whether it's been fixed previously as I think John
> suggested.?
>
>
>
> 6. There are so many variables here I can't test reliably without others
> testing too e.g. I don't know if the combined file size with lots of
> smaller files gives the same  result as this single 62MB file or if other
> PHP settings also have a part to play. My fear is that we don't know how
> big the problem is. Partly because export isn't as common as just creating
> and linking and that together with project size variation, settings
> variation etc and perhaps some not knowing that these files even exist
> means it could be quite common without many knowing.
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Pat L (pgogy)
> *Sent:* 30 April 2014 18:53
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
>
>
>
> Does exampler_zipper appear in the code, it sounds like something I left
> in.
>
>
>
> I imagine it is a PHP timeout issue kicking in, or Memory being maxed out.
>
>
>
> The zip script it supposed to do a clean up. Maybe do it before export now
> as well
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all
> I've updated some installations using the current 2.1 git download and had
> hoped that the example_zipper issue I mentioned previously would be fixed
> but it seems it hasn't? However it might only be showing up when large
> files
> are included or with certain php or server configurations etc or perhaps
> it's been fixed in develop but not applied to 2.1? This may also be an
> issue
> going unoticed to some extent and leaving lots of redundant zip files in
> project folders. So testing and questions...
>
> What I'm finding with current 2.1 code on more than one server is that
> exporting smaller projects works fine with no example_zipper files left on
> the server or included in the zip download. However if a project includes
> larger media files it either doesn't export or when it does it leaves
> example_zipper files in the project folder as well as including them in the
> zip download. I'm not sure where small - large overlaps but for instance
> I've been testing export of a project containing a 60MB mp4.
>
> Q1. Was this a known issue fixed in develop but not in current 2.1 branch?
>
> Q2. Could this only be occurring with particular PHP/server settings and if
> so what are the relevant settings?
>
> Q3. Can others reproduce this using current 2.1 branch?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 08 April 2014 14:05
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> I've not really seen any session issues on a windows install and on xampp
> mainly though. Have never seen the invalid templat id error either...
>
> the example_zipper_new... file seems to be related to old export code
> (
> https://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/modules/x
> erte/export.php?spec=svn696&r=696) with _xyz on the end nothing shows in
> Google but remove _xyz and you get hits...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |
> Glasgow
> Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:39
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Never seen 'invalid template id'. But 'session ID not set' is doing my head
> in.
>
> I don't recognise 2.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
> Mitchell
> Sent: 08 April 2014 13:23
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] session issue + example_zipper issue
>
> Hi all
> I think an issue I mentioned in the thread entitled testing results got
> lost
> in the discussion about re-running setup so I'm checking again along with a
> separate issue I've noticed.
>
> Issue 1
> I downloaded xertetoolkits_2.1 Version:2.1 Last update  2014-03-14 from the
> community site and from my testing this revision is not reliable e.g. one
> minute I can create an LO and the next minute I get one of two errors when
> trying to create a new lo:
> Session ID not set
> or
> Invalid template_id (could not find in DB)
>
> Q. Does this not happen for others?
>
> Issue 2
> In an older revision that I've been using which seems to be relatively
> trouble free I've noticed that one or more files named something like
> example_zipper_new_xyz. is getting created and included in any successful
> export but also still residing in the project folder on the server.
>
> Q. Does anyone recognise this? Was it fixed in a later revision that
> doesn't
> have the session issue above?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
>
>
>
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