[Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

Smith, John J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk
Mon Sep 30 22:02:37 BST 2013


Looks good. Need to learn how to do that!

Thanks Tom, saved the day again!

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:


After push...

[cid:part1.07020905.07080108 at tor.nl]
Op 30-9-2013 22:11, Smith, John schreef:

Yes, if you are happy then go for it... :-)

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

Yes I can. I did it locally (merge develop into 2.1, and then 2.1 into develop to get the upload changes)

It looks like this:
[cid:part1.07010201.03090300 at tor.nl]

Shall I push this?

Tom


Op 30-9-2013 21:49, Smith, John schreef:

Hi all,

So I've committed the changes to both upload.php files which takes MoovRelocator out of the upload path as Ron highlighted an important fact - it didn't work... still not sure why but it just seems to unreliable to leave it in there at least...

Now, the other point (and maybe Tom knows how to resolve this) is that I appear to have screwed things up a little... the work I was doing for Alistair is also now committed (might still make a change or two though) but as it was a gitflow feature branch from develop then SourceTree would only let me end the feature back on develop... so now These are sitting on the other branch. I know there most likely is a way (although I have no idea how) but can develop now be merged back into 2.1?

Regards,

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Sent: 30 September 2013 10:55
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

OK, no worries,

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

Hi all. I haven't committed the change to upload yet as i haven't had time yet but will today.

I plan to take moovrelocator out of the direct upload path completely as there are too many unknowns and add it to the media quota tab but doubt that will happen for the v2.1 release.

I think the other thing that needs to be tested well is video playback. I've upgraded mediaelements in develop since v2.0 to take advantage of better browser compatibility. Has been flawless in my testing so should be ok but would like to be sure that  haven't inadvertently broken a page model...

Also, please do not release final version until Alistair's new feature goes in.

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk><mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk><mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk><mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:


Hi Tom
I just tested this, although not fully, but I wanted to test if the mp4 issue John and I have been discussing still exists with this beta and it does.
I don't know if you've followed that thread but from my testing on 3 different servers the moovrelocator code is causing an error when uploading mp4 files whereby the mp4 fails to upload. mp4 upload works fine via media & quota but not via the editor. John can't reproduce this on xampp but it's a problem for me on 3 different linux servers. John tweaked upload.php to bypass the moovrelocator code until we can identify and resolve the cause of this problem and I thought John said he'd committed that change?

I think that temporary fix ought to be part of the beta until we can work out the cause/solution?

HTH
Ron

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Sent: 29 September 2013 14:22
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

I've created a 2.1-beta zip build.

It's available on the community website:
http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?Itemid=510<http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?lang=en&Itemid=510><http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?lang=en&Itemid=510><http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?lang=en&Itemid=510><http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?lang=en&Itemid=510>  (in the Xerte Online Toolkits section)

In this way, mor people can test the upcoming 2.1 release. As soon as we are comfortable with this, I'll remove this in favour of a zip of master (being called 2.1) at that point.

after 2.1 is released, we've fully completed the transfer to git:
 - master will have the current release (2.1)
 - develop will have the unstable release.

After releasing 2.1 I think we should not support 2.0 any more (no disruptive changes as far as I know) so there will be no maintenance brach of 2.0.

Does this make sense?

Regards,

Tom







Op 27-9-2013 9:35, Julian Tenney schreef:

Done so.



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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1



Er, yes, I think so!



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Are we going to create a release branch?



Op 27-9-2013 9:23, Julian Tenney schreef:

Nice one.



Will start testing what's there next week,



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Sent: 26 September 2013 21:38

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1



I just committed my last bugfix of my list for 2.1...



Op 20-9-2013 11:14, Smith, John schreef:

Yeah just add any bugs/issues to github and i will try to pick them up when I can...



Regards,



John Smith | Learning Technologist

Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences |

Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA

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OK then. I might setup a local install and start testing and reporting stuff anyway.





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John

Sent: 19 September 2013 16:19

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The first for me... I won't get the stuff I need to do in by this

weekend...



Regards,



John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University



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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:02 PM

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Both... :-)

Op 19-9-2013 16:40, Julian Tenney schreef:

What works for you?



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Sent: 19 September 2013 15:28

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End of september to finish functionality and start testing or finish functionality say this weekend, and start testing with the aim to relase end of september?

Op 19-9-2013 15:44, Julian Tenney schreef:

OK.



Shall we aim for end of September?



How shall we do testing?



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Sent: 19 September 2013 14:42

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1



Looks nice!



I also don't see any reason why not to have the logos, especially since they are configurable if you want!



Theming would be nice, although that theming for the LO's has a higher priority. And like John says, Theming is likely to improve the quality of the code.



Tom

Op 19-9-2013 15:29, Smith, John schreef:

I don't see any reason not to have UoN logos there... their IPR after

all and if it's relatively easy to change then...



I agree theming would be good... I think we should aim for a very

clean file and try to remove all inline styles and inline javascript

where possible. Then it will be a case of just changing css. This

would allow  for example similar invert and black-on-yellow modes to

address Alistairs requirements without too much effort...



The main xenith engine file isn't quite as lean as it could be but at

least the layout parts are pretty clean of code/style - I still have

a few things to do in there then I'm done with that file for a while

- happier now that it plays in IE6-10 quite well now (although there

is still that compatibility mode issue)...



Regards,



John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University



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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:18 PM

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No it was the HTML5 media viewer, a few other things. I've got some potential deigns to show you guys actually, see attached. I'm not 100% happy with any of them just yet, but I think the elements / colours are there.



Maybe we should do this as a theming thing, then people can choose?



I also wonder (quietly) whether we should have the UoN logos in there or not.



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Sent: 19 September 2013 14:14

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1



Yes, what has Nikodem been working on? The workspace redesign?





Regards,



John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University



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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:10 PM

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That all sounds good, thanks. Let's let it roll a couple of week s then. The reason for updating our code here is so Nikodem's changes can go out, and it will just be easier to drop the whole file set over the top than check whether anything has changed in dependent files (though I don't think it has).



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Sent: 19 September 2013 14:08

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1



Alistair is looking at it, few minor tweaks to get it ready for

consumption... has a lot of model specific stuff (mainly class and id

names used by specific models for colour changing purposes) in there

though which I don't really want as it makes maintenance a nightmare...



What I have started though, that should help a lot with that is I've

modularized xenith core and about 10 or so of the page models so that

they can load at any time and they then augment objects/arrays in

xenith as required by them - they are fully encapsulated in a closure

so don't pollute global and this is the obvious place to put class/id

names that are required for colour changer...



That will be for v2.2+ though - can't get the other models done

before xmas I doubt as there are a few changes to the process... I

think you'll like it though. I've managed to split xenith itself down

into modules, grouping things like glossary, etc so that they

everything to do with that is in the one file and it has it's own private and public vars...



For Crockford fans I've used 3 different, module patterns to achieve

different augmentations to the new XENITH object... will write up in

the wiki when I get them done...



Regards,



John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University



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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1



How long do you need?



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Sent: 19 September 2013 09:38

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1



The colourswitcher button should go in... it's nearly ready...



There have been enough fixes I think to warrant a new release, if

only to spur people to patch things like the previous youtube issue

and the stripslashes problem with moodle integration...



But... there are a few things that don't seem to be working properly

at present. Categories and Licences in management being the ones that

immediately spring to mind... not much though...



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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Toolkits 2.1



We'd quite like to update our install to the latest files, so I thought maybe we should do a 2.1 and put all the more recent changes out there. It's been six months since the last build was made.



Do you see any problems with this?

Anyone got anything that would be good to include?



Might be a good github trial as well...





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Winner: Times Higher Education’s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society’s Education Initiative of the Year 2009.
http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html

Winner: Times Higher Education’s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners.
http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html
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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474

Winner: Times Higher Education’s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society’s Education Initiative of the Year 2009.
http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html

Winner: Times Higher Education’s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners.
http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html
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