[Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons in Workspace

Pat @ Pgogy xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
Tue Oct 29 13:51:08 GMT 2013


I agree, I felt like it was heading into user settings territory....


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>wrote:

> and toggle off by default… ;-)****
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> Seriously though -  I really like the functionality John and would find it
> very useful personally - especially if the icons can actually link to those
> sections of properties at some point. I don't think the icons themselves
> can just be a toggle e.g. public/private because there are obviously more
> options to set than just on/off. But in a way that's the point - if all
> they do is give a basic idea of the properties for a given LO without
> providing more value than that then you still have to select the LO then
> select properties and I know lots of users including those responsible for
> supporting staff and students in their organisations that would say it's
> unecessary clutter. That's certainly not a criticism of what you've added
> John but a bit like moodle you only see all the edit icons when you turn
> editing on so the toggle would be the equivalent. The alternative but a
> much longer term discussion/wishlist might be default and user profile
> settings. Perhaps that's 3.2! ;-)****
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> HTH****
>
> Ron****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Smith, John
> *Sent:* 29 October 2013 12:10
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> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons in Workspace****
>
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> OK, smaller icons and toggle…****
>
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>
> Regards,****
>
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>
> John Smith****
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> Learning Technologist****
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> School of Health & Life Sciences****
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> Glasgow Caledonian University****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:54 AM
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons in Workspace****
>
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> No, in my opinion you should just show them.
>
> Really, people are used to icons.
>
> If we need to accommodate people who would hate those icons, then Ron's
> proposal is best: provide a global toggle
>
> Tom
>
> ****
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> "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> schreef:****
>
> I was thinking of toggle buttons and of Ron’s question about really long
> LO names and thought of having the selected LO expand to 2 rows and having
> the icons underneath and toggleable…****
>
>  ****
>
> It almost makes the initial driver pointless though since you need to
> select each LO to see the icons… perhaps a tick box or a show button that
> toggles or shows icons that then fade out again…****
>
>  ****
>
> Regards,****
>
>  ****
>
> John Smith****
>
> Learning Technologist****
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> School of Health & Life Sciences****
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> Glasgow Caledonian University****
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>  ****
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:42 AM
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons in Workspace****
>
>  ****
>
> The moodle off grey icons might make sense as they'll blend better with
> any theme?****
>
>  ****
>
> I think the icons make sense, but should they be toggle buttons?****
>
>  ****
>
> I could see a case that the interface could be tweaked a little - the
> properties panel isn't really properties anymore (it's more properties and
> do lots of important stuff).****
>
>  ****
>
> 2.2 makes sense, but I think the icons make the interface easier to use -
> would they confuse a new user - probably, but they might also demonstrate
> some of the features the system has which people have missed (or is that
> atypical techie talk)****
>
>  ****
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Julian Tenney <
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:****
>
> As well as 'is shared, be good to see 'is a share' (i.e. I'm sharing
> someone else's project).
>
> Can we leave this until 2.2?****
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 28 October 2013 22:19
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Possible icons in Workspace****
>
> Hi all,
>
> So from my conversation with Pat, I have taken a look at the feasibility
> of adding icons to Workspace to show-at-a-glance certain statuses:
>
>   Private/Public
>   Flash vs Javascript
>   RSS syndicated
>   Shared with a collaborator
>   (there may be others we can do that i'm not aware of)
>
> I have rewritten the SQL query for Workspace to gather the required data
> and implemented the icons but as you can imagine Workspace soon gets
> cluttered (see image XOT_Icons_All). I have also been playing with the idea
> of only showing the images for the row that is selected
> (XOT_Icons_Selected) - but then I know you can select more than 1 row so
> not sure how to handle that...
>
> What do you think?  I'm looking for ideas...
>
> Regards,
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