[Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Tue Oct 22 12:14:52 BST 2013
Sounds like November 20th is acceptable
I'll book a flight later today and hire a car (or you must convince me, the
train is better, but I must say, I haven't got much confidence in trains,
based on the Dutch NS. Will arraive at London Standsted at around 8:10 (uk
time) and have to be at Standsted at around 19:00)
Tom
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 22:03:19 +0100 Mark Berthelemy wrote
I've put 20th Nov in my diary.
Cheers,
Mark On Oct 21, 2013 7:30 PM, "Julian Tenney" wrote:
Great, I think it would be brill if you can come. 20th it is then.
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [2]
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [3]] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
[reijnders at tor.nl [4]]
Sent: 21 October 2013 16:20
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net [5]
I can do November 20.
Julian Tenney schreef:
I can do either as well. I think timings are to give time for Sven to get here
from Brighton, and to have a 'working' lunch, so 11 - 3 if we need that long?
I'd imagine the conversations could easily fill that time.
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [7]
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [8]] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
[ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk [9]]
Sent: 21 October 2013 10:45
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net [10]
At the moment I can make either of those dates but would be good to confirm
asap. What about setting up a quick Doodle or Meetomatic to assess the best
date/time? I guess an idea of start and finish time would help everyone too.
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [12]
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [13]] On Behalf Of Julian
Tenney
Sent: 21 October 2013
10:28
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net [14]
20 or 22 of November have been suggested, any good? Others are welcome too.
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [16]
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [17]] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy
[mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk [18]]
Sent: 20 October 2013 22:47
To: For Xerte technical developers
Cc: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net [19]
Hi Julian,
I know Sven quite well, and was at the Adapt launch event earlier this year.
What they've got currently is a clever framework built on Bootstrap that
allows a Dev to build a simple json file that gets read by the framework to
build a one page site at run time.
At the moment, there's no authoring tool, and very limited interactions.
But, what they do
have
is a strong governance setup and people who are
working on the bits and pieces around the development, ie. those good things
like marketing and documentation.
IMO There could be potential for XOT to be the (or an) authoring tool for
Adapt, once the Json structure has been documented and "standardized"
I would very much like to be at the meeting with Sven in Nottingham. Let me
know when it is and I'll try to book it in the diary. Just not in the next
two weeks I'm afraid.
Cheers,
Mark
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Mark Berthelemy
07922 146 761
On 20 Oct 2013, at 22:30, Julian Tenney
wrote:
This is all
interesting conversation, thanks. SCratch your own itch goes
so far. That might be as far as we want to go, but there are opportunities.
I'm grateful for Mark B's contributions here, you are bringing some good
perspectives, thanks. I believe you also know Sven Laux, and his 'Adapt'
project - I spoke to him last week, and I'm keen to find how we can all work
together, they are building something very similar to XOT. His group are
much more concerned with the corporate world. We are much further on, but it
has struck me that the corporate stuff, and the education stuff are very
different. I think there could be a fruitful alliance. Sven is going to come
to Nottngham, and if any of you guys could come along, I think we could have
a very intersting discussion, we are looking for some dates... please read
up on 'Adapt', be interested in thoughts.
I'm off this week, so apologies for any delay in response.
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [22]
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [23]] On Behalf Of Smith, John
[J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk [24]]
Sent: 18 October 2013 18:53
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [25]
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net [26]
Oh meant to say too that coding is just a small part of the equation - i
only used that as an example as that's what i'm most familiar with...
I'd like to see documentation, translations, roadshows, workshops etc
being funded too.
Regards
John Sm
ith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences
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"Smith, John" wrote:
Ah... Was about to 'slightly' disagree with you Mark and then saw your
reply...
I think Jisc or JiscTechdis would be the ideal people to hold the purse -
assuming they are happy to do that.
But... Then i think you still need the 'foundation' approach or at least
the governance part - who decides what bit of work gets funded?
For example i have a job but
also
occasionally do some consultancy coding.
My contribution to Xerte is largely gratis, but with that i really work to
my own agenda, prioritising things that interest me... With paid work you
obviously work to someone else's agenda.
Julian's 'scratch your own itch' model kinda falls into this but sometimes
falls down as we are seeing with the impending mysql depreciation. That
NEEDS done otherwise we stall.
We have 20odd issues on Github some largish projects and some 1 hour jobs.
And probably a few 'needs doing' that haven't been logged.
I just wonder who will decide and prioritise how any money is spent, while
taking into consideration the views of those donating the money, ie the
conference participants, companies, etc...
Regards
John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences
Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
Mark Berthelemy wrote:
Absolutely Ron.
And my apologies... I think I misread your email (too many threads
happening at once). As a means of channelling funding JISC might well be the
answer. ELN or LPI would definitely not be!
As a means of promoting a conferen
ce,
JISC is less relevant to corporates.
Sorry about that.
Mark
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Mark Berthelemy
Managing Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd
Tel: 01773 318 962
Mob: 07922 146 761
Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk [30]
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:02, Ron Mitchell wrote:
There's a lot to unpick here Mark and it clearly depends on the main
objectives and these are obviously different for different people. But I
think there's lots to consider and lots of potential implications.
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [33]
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [34]] On Behalf Of Mark
Berthelemy
Sent: 18 Octobe
r 2013
16:46
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net [35]
Sorry to disagree Ron, but JISC has, in practice, no relevance to
corporate L&D. Their resources are just not used.
Better to work through the Elearning Network or the Learning For Xerte
technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net [67]
Count me in on that one. If we could make sure there was a stream that
wasn't university/academic/education focussed - I'm sure we could get a lot
of takers from the corporate world.
Mark
--
Mark Berthelemy
Managing Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd
Tel: 01773 318 962
Mob: 07922 146 761
Web:
www.wyversolutions.co.uk [70] wrote:
We've discussed this before but you could probably make some money
from merchandising; how much I don't know but the opportunity is
there. again though it's dependent on the use of the trademark and the
ownership - there doesn't seem much point registering the trademark
and then not doing anything with it.
Regards,
John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health
with a focus on institutions that will fund development, what is the
viability of Xerte in the medium/long term?
BTW. You don't have to set up a Foundation. You could easily create a
company for much less cost...
Mark
--
Mark Berthelemy
Managing Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd
Tel: 01773 318 962
Mob: 07922 146 761
Web:
www.wyversolutions.co.uk [97]
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