From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sat Jun 1 14:40:46 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 14:40:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Code to relocate the mp4 moov atom to start of file Message-ID: Hi, I have committed some code to Trunk only which does the above when you upload an mp4/m4v file in order to attempt to support progressive playing. Tom - can you please test this with the mp4 that you were having issue with to make sure it does what it should? Note: there appears to be a bug in the moovrelocator Class that is leaving a file handle open so we are unable to delete the temp file until the next upload, hence the temp file remains in the media folder. Will attempt to figure out why... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jun 3 06:52:26 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 07:52:26 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Code to relocate the mp4 moov atom to start of file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51AC2F1A.6020708@tor.nl> John, Thank you for your efforts, I'll give it a go (or actually, I'll ask Inge to do that, because it was her project) But it's a bit busy here, so it will be later in the week. Thanks! Tom Op 1-6-2013 15:40, Smith, John schreef: > Hi, > > I have committed some code to Trunk only which does the above when you upload an mp4/m4v file in order to attempt to support progressive playing. > > > Tom - can you please test this with the mp4 that you were having issue with to make sure it does what it should? > > > Note: there appears to be a bug in the moovrelocator Class that is leaving a file handle open so we are unable to delete the temp file until the next upload, hence the temp file remains in the media folder. Will attempt to figure out why... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jun 3 09:55:16 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 09:55:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Code to relocate the mp4 moov atom to start of file In-Reply-To: <51AC2F1A.6020708@tor.nl> References: <51AC2F1A.6020708@tor.nl> Message-ID: Cheers Tom. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 6:52 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Code to relocate the mp4 moov atom to start of file John, Thank you for your efforts, I'll give it a go (or actually, I'll ask Inge to do that, because it was her project) But it's a bit busy here, so it will be later in the week. Thanks! Tom Op 1-6-2013 15:40, Smith, John schreef: > Hi, > > I have committed some code to Trunk only which does the above when you upload an mp4/m4v file in order to attempt to support progressive playing. > > > Tom - can you please test this with the mp4 that you were having issue with to make sure it does what it should? > > > Note: there appears to be a bug in the moovrelocator Class that is leaving a file handle open so we are unable to delete the temp file until the next upload, hence the temp file remains in the media folder. Will attempt to figure out why... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jun 3 13:57:13 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:57:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Bug in management.php Message-ID: Hi, Just committed a line change in a file that wasn't working in management/user-templates but it's only fixed part of the problem and I'm not getting the flow and don't really want to mess around too much with the code as I'm not knowing what else it will affect... 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From: Katrien Bernaerts [mailto:katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be] Sent: 29 May 2013 12:23 To: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Subject: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders Hi Julian, I have sent the mail below a few weeks ago, can you let me know what you think of the proposal? Toll-net is a project that is subsidized by the Flemish government. Therefore we are committed to an annual action plan. At the moment, we are preparing our new action plan (2013-2014 ) and in this context we want to discuss with you the Xerte AGM day and a Flemish Xerte User Day. As you know, Xerte takes a large part of our activities. That's why we're thinking to organize a two-day Xerte conference next school year (somewhere in May 2014): an AGM day and a "Flemish" users day. For the AGM we would provide a location in Flanders while you would provide the content. The "Flemish" users day will be our responsibility. The Xerte User day would be on the 2nd day. The day would start with two keynote speakers and in the afternoon, our users would present their learning objects. We would like that someone of the developers team should provide a keynote. In the afternoon, learning objects are presented and evaluated by a jury and at the end of the day the best learning object receives a "Xerte Award". Afterward, we would provide a drink. We'd like to ask you and Inge to make part of our jury. Our question to you is, what do you think of this proposal? If you and the developers team like this idea, we will integrate this conference in our action plan. Best regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net Mobiel: +32 496 523058 Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen) e-mail: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be website: http://www.toll-net.be skype: katrienb twitter: kbernaerts linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jun 3 15:11:39 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 15:11:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3B8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00b801ce5c5e$ed76cc30$c8646490$@toll-net.be> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3B8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8C00A35B-8D98-4FE6-B8A0-E7C256906DEC@pgogywebstuff.com> I've been to Bruges. It smelt funny. I'm always up for a road trip though On 3 Jun 2013, at 15:00, Julian Tenney wrote: > I think this is an excellent idea: what do others think? I?m certainly interested in what?s happening in Flanders ? I guess the AGM / tech / developers day could be a separate event - but I?ve never been to Belgium? > > From: Katrien Bernaerts [mailto:katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be] > Sent: 29 May 2013 12:23 > To: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders > > Hi Julian, > > I have sent the mail below a few weeks ago, can you let me know what you think of the proposal? > > Toll-net is a project that is subsidized by the Flemish government. Therefore we are committed to an annual action plan. > At the moment, we are preparing our new action plan (2013-2014 ) and in this context we want to discuss with you the Xerte AGM day and a Flemish Xerte User Day. > > As you know, Xerte takes a large part of our activities. That's why we're thinking to organize a two-day Xerte conference next school year (somewhere in May 2014): an AGM day and a ?Flemish? users day. > For the AGM we would provide a location in Flanders while you would provide the content. The ?Flemish? users day will be our responsibility. > > The Xerte User day would be on the 2nd day. The day would start with two keynote speakers and in the afternoon, our users would present their learning objects. > We would like that someone of the developers team should provide a keynote. > In the afternoon, learning objects are presented and evaluated by a jury and at the end of the day the best learning object receives a ?Xerte Award?. Afterward, we would provide a drink. We?d like to ask you and Inge to make part of our jury. > > Our question to you is, what do you think of this proposal? If you and the developers team like this idea, we will integrate this conference in our action plan. > > Best regards, > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net > > Mobiel: +32 496 523058 > Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen) > e-mail: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be website: http://www.toll-net.be > skype: katrienb twitter: kbernaerts > linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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I guess the AGM / tech / developers day could be a separate event - but I?ve never been to Belgium? From: Katrien Bernaerts [mailto:katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be] Sent: 29 May 2013 12:23 To: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Subject: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders Hi Julian, I have sent the mail below a few weeks ago, can you let me know what you think of the proposal? Toll-net is a project that is subsidized by the Flemish government. Therefore we are committed to an annual action plan.At the moment, we are preparing our new action plan (2013-2014 ) and in this context we want to discuss with you the Xerte AGM day and a Flemish Xerte User Day. As you know, Xerte takes a large part of our activities. That's why we're thinking to organize a two-day Xerte conference next school year (somewhere in May 2014): an AGM day and a ?Flemish? users day.For the AGM we would provide a location in Flanders while you would provide the content. The ?Flemish? users day will be our responsibility. The Xerte User day would be on the 2nd day. The day would start with two keynote speakers and in the afternoon, our users would present their learning objects. We would like that someone of the developers team should provide a keynote. In the afternoon, learning objects are presented and evaluated by a jury and at the end of the day the best learning object receives a ?Xerte Award?. Afterward, we would provide a drink. We?d like to ask you and Inge to make part of our jury. Our question to you is, what do you think of this proposal? If you and the developers team like this idea, we will integrate this conference in our action plan. Best regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net Mobiel: +32 496 523058Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen)e-mail: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be website: http://www.toll-net.beskype: katrienb twitter: kbernaertslinkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 03 June 2013 15:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders 2nd prize, 2 weeks in Bruges... ________________________________ From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 15:11:39 +0100 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders I've been to Bruges. It smelt funny. I'm always up for a road trip though On 3 Jun 2013, at 15:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: I think this is an excellent idea: what do others think? I'm certainly interested in what's happening in Flanders - I guess the AGM / tech / developers day could be a separate event - but I've never been to Belgium... From: Katrien Bernaerts [mailto:katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be] Sent: 29 May 2013 12:23 To: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Subject: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders Hi Julian, I have sent the mail below a few weeks ago, can you let me know what you think of the proposal? Toll-net is a project that is subsidized by the Flemish government. Therefore we are committed to an annual action plan. At the moment, we are preparing our new action plan (2013-2014 ) and in this context we want to discuss with you the Xerte AGM day and a Flemish Xerte User Day. As you know, Xerte takes a large part of our activities. That's why we're thinking to organize a two-day Xerte conference next school year (somewhere in May 2014): an AGM day and a "Flemish" users day. For the AGM we would provide a location in Flanders while you would provide the content. The "Flemish" users day will be our responsibility. The Xerte User day would be on the 2nd day. The day would start with two keynote speakers and in the afternoon, our users would present their learning objects. We would like that someone of the developers team should provide a keynote. In the afternoon, learning objects are presented and evaluated by a jury and at the end of the day the best learning object receives a "Xerte Award". Afterward, we would provide a drink. We'd like to ask you and Inge to make part of our jury. Our question to you is, what do you think of this proposal? If you and the developers team like this idea, we will integrate this conference in our action plan. Best regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net Mobiel: +32 496 523058 Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen) e-mail: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be website: http://www.toll-net.be skype: katrienb twitter: kbernaerts linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jun 3 15:20:24 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 16:20:24 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3B8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00b801ce5c5e$ed76cc30$c8646490$@toll-net.be> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3B8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51ACA628.2030305@tor.nl> It's easy for us to decide (The Dutch). So we will be there.... And (I shouldn't be saying this as a Dutch citizen but) you are NEVER bored when visiting Belgium. They have incredible food, they have an incredible number of initiatives with Xerte, and they are very likable...:-) Tom and Inge Op 3-6-2013 16:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I think this is an excellent idea: what do others think? I'm certainly > interested in what's happening in Flanders -- I guess the AGM / tech / > developers day could be a separate event - but I've never been to > Belgium... > > *From:*Katrien Bernaerts [mailto:katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be] > *Sent:* 29 May 2013 12:23 > *To:* Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders > > Hi Julian, > > I have sent the mail below a few weeks ago, can youlet me know what > you think of the proposal? > > Toll-netis a project that is subsidizedby the Flemish government. > Therefore we are committed to an annual action plan. > > At the moment, we arepreparing our new action plan (2013-2014 )and in > this context we want to discuss with you the Xerte AGM day and a > Flemish Xerte User Day. > > As you know,Xertetakesa largepart ofour activities.That's why we're > thinking to organize a two-day Xerte conference next school year > (somewhere in May 2014): an AGM day and a "Flemish" users day. > > For theAGM we would provide a location in Flanders while you would > provide the content. The "Flemish" users day will be our responsibility. > > The XerteUser daywould be on the2ndday. The day wouldstartwith two > keynote speakers and in the afternoon, our users would present their > learning objects. > > We would like that someone of the developers team should provide a > keynote. > > In the afternoon, learning objectsare presented and evaluated by a > jury and at the end of the day the best learning object receives a > "Xerte Award". Afterward,we would provide a drink. We'd like to ask > you and Inge tomake part of ourjury. > > Our questionto you is, what do you think of this proposal? If you and > the developers team like this idea, we will integrate this conference > in our action plan. > > Best regards, > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net > > Mobiel: +32 496 523058 > > Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen) > > e-mail:katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be > website: http://www.toll-net.be > > > skype: katrienb twitter: kbernaerts > > linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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Edit works fine ? Preview now opens play.php and gives an error as the LO isn?t public ? Properties throws several different console errors, not consistent? Anyone fancy having a look at this? 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Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.comMakers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" To:"For Xerte technical developers" Cc: Sent:Fri, 31 May 2013 09:49:44 +0100 Subject:[Xerte-dev] Re: Commits Great Pat, ? Will test this when I get a chance? ? Regards, ? John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF xerte at pgogywebstuff.com SENT: Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:01 PM TO: For technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Commits ? Hello, ? Done some more work to make the code more modularised. ? Site now "requires" xerte, so you can install site, but it will tell you it needs Xerte to work. The RSS module could now move out of Xerte into RSS and reuse all of the Xerte code. Some of the functions effectively say ? "use my edit.php, but if that doesn't exist, use my parents" - so they inherit. ? This is only in trunk Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com [1] Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ? ? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.?? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment.? Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ? Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Links: ------ [1] http://www.pgogywebstuff.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jun 3 19:02:23 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 19:02:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <767af488755a35e59ad9bf4cfe8ade5bf8ad439c@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> Not yet, maybe tomorrow afternoon. Not written export for them yet and developing on a localhost. ? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.comMakers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" To:"For Xerte technical developers" Cc: Sent:Fri, 31 May 2013 09:55:17 +0100 Subject:[Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Meant to say, do you have any examples of working LOs? ? Regards, ? John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF Smith, John SENT: Friday, May 31, 2013 9:52 AM TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules ? These look fantastic. Had a few problems but I just dropped them straight into a not updated xerte install so I?m figuring they might need the latest modularization code that you committed. ? Also, is there a library file missing or is it just not done yet? ? Regards, ? John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [1] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [2]] ON BEHALF OF Pat @ Pgogy SENT: Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:09 PM TO: For technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] New Modules ? Hello, ? https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile [3] ? and ? https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree [4] ? 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com [5] Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ? ? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html [6] Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html [7] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Links: ------ [1] mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [2] mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [3] https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile [4] https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree [5] http://www.pgogywebstuff.com [6] http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html [7] http://wwwgcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. ? I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. ? The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. ? There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. ? This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. ? Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford? |? e-Learning Advisor? |? Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 |? Mobile: 07500 669002? |? Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk [1]? |? Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern [2] Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk [3] ? ? ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF Pat @ Pgogy SENT: 30 May 2013 23:09 TO: For technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] New Modules ? Hello, ? https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile [4] ? and ? https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree [5] ? 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com [6] Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ? ? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught Bugs and issues: Creating Effective materials: Developers General chat MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford Third party support: Inge Donkervoort Wish list Espanol Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort Norsk Bye, Inge 12Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Jun 3 22:30:51 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:30:51 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] CloudForge, BitBucket, Codesion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm asking for a 3rd party. Anyone know/like any of those?I have no experience with them. Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:01 PM To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Commits Hello, Done some more work to make the code more modularised. Site now "requires" xerte, so you can install site, but it will tell you it needs Xerte to work. The RSS module could now move out of Xerte into RSS and reuse all of the Xerte code. Some of the functions effectively say "use my edit.php, but if that doesn't exist, use my parents" - so they inherit. This is only in trunk Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Good Morning everyone, I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules Hello, https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile and https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jun 4 09:19:19 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:19:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders In-Reply-To: <51ACA628.2030305@tor.nl> References: <00b801ce5c5e$ed76cc30$c8646490$@toll-net.be> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3B8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51ACA628.2030305@tor.nl> Message-ID: <85FFF2EE-C95D-4F65-94A0-BE63216633EF@pgogywebstuff.com> Will the conference be in Flemish? Not to be too English but I don't know any Flemish or Dutch - bar vossball.... On 3 Jun 2013, at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: > It's easy for us to decide (The Dutch). So we will be there.... > > And (I shouldn't be saying this as a Dutch citizen but) you are NEVER bored when visiting Belgium. They have incredible food, they have an incredible number of initiatives with Xerte, and they are very likable...:-) > > Tom and Inge > > Op 3-6-2013 16:00, Julian Tenney schreef: >> I think this is an excellent idea: what do others think? I?m certainly interested in what?s happening in Flanders ? I guess the AGM / tech / developers day could be a separate event - but I?ve never been to Belgium? >> >> From: Katrien Bernaerts [mailto:katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be] >> Sent: 29 May 2013 12:23 >> To: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders >> >> Hi Julian, >> >> I have sent the mail below a few weeks ago, can you let me know what you think of the proposal? >> >> Toll-net is a project that is subsidized by the Flemish government. Therefore we are committed to an annual action plan. >> At the moment, we are preparing our new action plan (2013-2014 ) and in this context we want to discuss with you the Xerte AGM day and a Flemish Xerte User Day. >> >> As you know, Xerte takes a large part of our activities. That's why we're thinking to organize a two-day Xerte conference next school year (somewhere in May 2014): an AGM day and a ?Flemish? users day. >> For the AGM we would provide a location in Flanders while you would provide the content. The ?Flemish? users day will be our responsibility. >> >> The Xerte User day would be on the 2nd day. The day would start with two keynote speakers and in the afternoon, our users would present their learning objects. >> We would like that someone of the developers team should provide a keynote. >> In the afternoon, learning objects are presented and evaluated by a jury and at the end of the day the best learning object receives a ?Xerte Award?. Afterward, we would provide a drink. We?d like to ask you and Inge to make part of our jury. >> >> Our question to you is, what do you think of this proposal? If you and the developers team like this idea, we will integrate this conference in our action plan. >> >> Best regards, >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net >> >> Mobiel: +32 496 523058 >> Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen) >> e-mail: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be website: http://www.toll-net.be >> skype: katrienb twitter: kbernaerts >> linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 4 09:53:29 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 10:53:29 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders In-Reply-To: <85FFF2EE-C95D-4F65-94A0-BE63216633EF@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <85FFF2EE-C95D-4F65-94A0-BE63216633EF@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <6ea64008-01a1-49b2-af87-333ee7d515ec@email.android.com> My impression was this was going to be international, so the presentations will be in English. Katrien? "Pat @ Pgogy " schreef: >Will the conference be in Flemish? Not to be too English but I don't >know any Flemish or Dutch - bar vossball.... > >On 3 Jun 2013, at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> It's easy for us to decide (The Dutch). So we will be there.... >> >> And (I shouldn't be saying this as a Dutch citizen but) you are NEVER >bored when visiting Belgium. They have incredible food, they have an >incredible number of initiatives with Xerte, and they are very >likable...:-) >> >> Tom and Inge >> >> Op 3-6-2013 16:00, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> I think this is an excellent idea: what do others think? I?m >certainly interested in what?s happening in Flanders ? I guess the AGM >/ tech / developers day could be a separate event - but I?ve never been >to Belgium? >>> >>> From: Katrien Bernaerts [mailto:katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be] >>> Sent: 29 May 2013 12:23 >>> To: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders >>> >>> Hi Julian, >>> >>> I have sent the mail below a few weeks ago, can you let me know what >you think of the proposal? >>> >>> Toll-net is a project that is subsidized by the Flemish government. >Therefore we are committed to an annual action plan. >>> At the moment, we are preparing our new action plan (2013-2014 ) and >in this context we want to discuss with you the Xerte AGM day and a >Flemish Xerte User Day. >>> >>> As you know, Xerte takes a large part of our activities. That's why >we're thinking to organize a two-day Xerte conference next school year >(somewhere in May 2014): an AGM day and a ?Flemish? users day. >>> For the AGM we would provide a location in Flanders while you would >provide the content. The ?Flemish? users day will be our >responsibility. >>> >>> The Xerte User day would be on the 2nd day. The day would start with >two keynote speakers and in the afternoon, our users would present >their learning objects. >>> We would like that someone of the developers team should provide a >keynote. >>> In the afternoon, learning objects are presented and evaluated by a >jury and at the end of the day the best learning object receives a >?Xerte Award?. Afterward, we would provide a drink. We?d like to ask >you and Inge to make part of our jury. >>> >>> Our question to you is, what do you think of this proposal? If you >and the developers team like this idea, we will integrate this >conference in our action plan. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net >>> >>> Mobiel: +32 496 523058 >>> Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen) >>> e-mail: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be website: >http://www.toll-net.be >>> skype: katrienb > twitter: kbernaerts >>> linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Can someone else do this? http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught Bugs and issues: Creating Effective materials: Developers General chat MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford Third party support: Inge Donkervoort Wish list Espanol Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort Norsk Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jun 4 10:04:55 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:04:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <51ACF75E.30803@12change.eu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Happy to pop my head in every now and again... Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get an email with a link straight to the post preferably? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW I'm happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I'm not always the best person for those sorts of questions..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 03 June 2013 21:07 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW Hi, There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We can't answer this. Can someone else do this? http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. 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The second day it will be English and Dutch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net Mobiel: +32 496 523058 Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen) e-mail: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be?? website: http://www.toll-net.be skype: katrienb??????????????????????????????????????????????? twitter: kbernaerts linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] Namens xerte-dev-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Verzonden: dinsdag 4 juni 2013 10:55 Aan: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Onderwerp: Xerte-dev Digest, Vol 22, Issue 11 Send Xerte-dev mailing list submissions to xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-dev-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-dev-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte-dev digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: FW: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders (Pat @ Pgogy ) 2. Re: FW: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders (Tom Reijnders) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:19:19 +0100 From: "Pat @ Pgogy " To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders Message-ID: <85FFF2EE-C95D-4F65-94A0-BE63216633EF at pgogywebstuff.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Will the conference be in Flemish? Not to be too English but I don't know any Flemish or Dutch - bar vossball.... On 3 Jun 2013, at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: > It's easy for us to decide (The Dutch). So we will be there.... > > And (I shouldn't be saying this as a Dutch citizen but) you are NEVER > bored when visiting Belgium. They have incredible food, they have an > incredible number of initiatives with Xerte, and they are very > likable...:-) > > Tom and Inge > > Op 3-6-2013 16:00, Julian Tenney schreef: >> I think this is an excellent idea: what do others think? I?m certainly interested in what?s happening in Flanders ? I guess the AGM / tech / developers day could be a separate event - but I?ve never been to Belgium? >> >> From: Katrien Bernaerts [mailto:katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be] >> Sent: 29 May 2013 12:23 >> To: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders >> >> Hi Julian, >> >> I have sent the mail below a few weeks ago, can you let me know what you think of the proposal? >> >> Toll-net is a project that is subsidized by the Flemish government. Therefore we are committed to an annual action plan. >> At the moment, we are preparing our new action plan (2013-2014 ) and in this context we want to discuss with you the Xerte AGM day and a Flemish Xerte User Day. >> >> As you know, Xerte takes a large part of our activities. That's why we're thinking to organize a two-day Xerte conference next school year (somewhere in May 2014): an AGM day and a ?Flemish? users day. >> For the AGM we would provide a location in Flanders while you would provide the content. The ?Flemish? users day will be our responsibility. >> >> The Xerte User day would be on the 2nd day. The day would start with two keynote speakers and in the afternoon, our users would present their learning objects. >> We would like that someone of the developers team should provide a keynote. >> In the afternoon, learning objects are presented and evaluated by a jury and at the end of the day the best learning object receives a ?Xerte Award?. Afterward, we would provide a drink. We?d like to ask you and Inge to make part of our jury. >> >> Our question to you is, what do you think of this proposal? If you and the developers team like this idea, we will integrate this conference in our action plan. >> >> Best regards, >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------------------- >> >> Katrien Bernaerts | Projectbegeleider Toll-net >> >> Mobiel: +32 496 523058 >> Tel.: +32 2 514 19 00 (Provinciaal Onderwijs Vlaanderen) >> e-mail: katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be website: http://www.toll-net.be >> skype: katrienb twitter: kbernaerts >> linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/pub/katrien-bernaerts/10/55b/95 >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 10:53:29 +0200 From: Tom Reijnders To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders Message-ID: <6ea64008-01a1-49b2-af87-333ee7d515ec at email.android.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" My impression was this was going to be international, so the presentations will be in English. Katrien? "Pat @ Pgogy " schreef: >Will the conference be in Flemish? Not to be too English but I don't >know any Flemish or Dutch - bar vossball.... > >On 3 Jun 2013, at 15:20, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> It's easy for us to decide (The Dutch). So we will be there.... >> >> And (I shouldn't be saying this as a Dutch citizen but) you are NEVER >bored when visiting Belgium. They have incredible food, they have an >incredible number of initiatives with Xerte, and they are very >likable...:-) >> >> Tom and Inge >> >> Op 3-6-2013 16:00, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> I think this is an excellent idea: what do others think? I?m >certainly interested in what?s happening in Flanders ? I guess the AGM >/ tech / developers day could be a separate event - but I?ve never been >to Belgium? >>> >>> From: Katrien Bernaerts [mailto:katrien.bernaerts at toll-net.be] >>> Sent: 29 May 2013 12:23 >>> To: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: proposal two-day Xerte conference in Flanders >>> >>> Hi Julian, >>> >>> I have sent the mail below a few weeks ago, can you let me know what >you think of the proposal? >>> >>> Toll-net is a project that is subsidized by the Flemish government. >Therefore we are committed to an annual action plan. >>> At the moment, we are preparing our new action plan (2013-2014 ) and >in this context we want to discuss with you the Xerte AGM day and a >Flemish Xerte User Day. >>> >>> As you know, Xerte takes a large part of our activities. That's why >we're thinking to organize a two-day Xerte conference next school year >(somewhere in May 2014): an AGM day and a ?Flemish? users day. >>> For the AGM we would provide a location in Flanders while you would >provide the content. The ?Flemish? users day will be our >responsibility. >>> >>> The Xerte User day would be on the 2nd day. The day would start with >two keynote speakers and in the afternoon, our users would present >their learning objects. >>> We would like that someone of the developers team should provide a >keynote. >>> In the afternoon, learning objects are presented and evaluated by a >jury and at the end of the day the best learning object receives a >?Xerte Award?. Afterward, we would provide a drink. We?d like to ask >you and Inge to make part of our jury. >>> >>> Our question to you is, what do you think of this proposal? 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 4 12:40:42 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 12:40:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW In-Reply-To: References: <51ACF75E.30803@12change.eu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3EE7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You can get feeds in outlook From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 04 June 2013 10:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW Happy to pop my head in every now and again... Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get an email with a link straight to the post preferably? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW I'm happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I'm not always the best person for those sorts of questions..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 03 June 2013 21:07 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW Hi, There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We can't answer this. Can someone else do this? http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:41 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW You can get feeds in outlook From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 04 June 2013 10:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW Happy to pop my head in every now and again... Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get an email with a link straight to the post preferably? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW I'm happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I'm not always the best person for those sorts of questions..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 03 June 2013 21:07 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW Hi, There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We can't answer this. Can someone else do this? http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught Bugs and issues: Creating Effective materials: Developers General chat MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford Third party support: Inge Donkervoort Wish list Espanol Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort Norsk Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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I'm keen to opt for the forum because thread hijacking in the list has gotten crazy recently On 4 Jun 2013, at 12:45, "Smith, John" wrote: > Yeah think I have that sorted? > > Happy to do whatever section(s) is not covered by someone else? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:41 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW > > You can get feeds in outlook > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 04 June 2013 10:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW > > Happy to pop my head in every now and again? > > Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get an email with a link straight to the post preferably? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW > > I?m happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I?m not always the best person for those sorts of questions..? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change > Sent: 03 June 2013 21:07 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW > > Hi, > > There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We can't answer this. Can someone else do this? > http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en > > Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. > > Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught > Bugs and issues: > Creating Effective materials: > Developers > General chat > MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford > Third party support: Inge Donkervoort > Wish list > Espanol > Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort > Norsk > > > Bye, > Inge > > 1 2 Change > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. > > Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught > Bugs and issues: > Creating Effective materials: > Developers > General chat > MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford > Third party support: Inge Donkervoort > Wish list > Espanol > Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort > Norsk > > > Bye, > Inge > > 1 2 Change > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. > > Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? > > The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: > > Sent: > Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > Good Morning everyone, > > > I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. > > > I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. > > > I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. > > > The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. > > > There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. > > > This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. > > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > ========================================================== > Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern > Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity > Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern > Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN > For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 > To: For technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules > > > Hello, > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile > > > and > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree > > > 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jun 4 13:44:06 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:44:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <3617e2f9d4353c39215bbb625474c88739dd8b1d@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> References: <3617e2f9d4353c39215bbb625474c88739dd8b1d@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> Message-ID: <1D58AD69-7C4E-409D-A082-D15B3C430CF7@pgogywebstuff.com> Thinking more about this - could you not just do it with disqus? On 3 Jun 2013, at 19:30, "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. > > Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? > > The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: > > Sent: > Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > Good Morning everyone, > > > > > I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. > > > > > I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. > > > > > I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. > > > > > The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. > > > > > There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. > > > > > This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. > > > > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > ========================================================== > Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern > Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity > Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern > Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN > For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 > To: For technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules > > > > Hello, > > > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile > > > > > and > > > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree > > > > > 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful > > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 14:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW Are we not going to confuse people by having a forum and a mailing list? Which would people join? I'm keen to opt for the forum because thread hijacking in the list has gotten crazy recently On 4 Jun 2013, at 12:45, "Smith, John" > wrote: Yeah think I have that sorted? Happy to do whatever section(s) is not covered by someone else? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:41 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW You can get feeds in outlook From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 04 June 2013 10:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW Happy to pop my head in every now and again? Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get an email with a link straight to the post preferably? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW I?m happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I?m not always the best person for those sorts of questions..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 03 June 2013 21:07 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW Hi, There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We can't answer this. Can someone else do this? http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. 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I'm keen to opt for the forum because thread hijacking in the list has gotten crazy recently On 4 Jun 2013, at 12:45, "Smith, John" > wrote: Yeah think I have that sorted? Happy to do whatever section(s) is not covered by someone else? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:41 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW You can get feeds in outlook From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 04 June 2013 10:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW Happy to pop my head in every now and again? Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get an email with a link straight to the post preferably? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW I?m happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I?m not always the best person for those sorts of questions..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 03 June 2013 21:07 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW Hi, There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We can't answer this. Can someone else do this? http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. 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I'm keen to opt for the forum because thread hijacking in the list has gotten crazy recently On 4 Jun 2013, at 12:45, "Smith, John" wrote: > Yeah think I have that sorted? > > Happy to do whatever section(s) is not covered by someone else? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:41 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW > > You can get feeds in outlook > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 04 June 2013 10:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW > > Happy to pop my head in every now and again? > > Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get an email with a link straight to the post preferably? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW > > I?m happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I?m not always the best person for those sorts of questions..? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change > Sent: 03 June 2013 21:07 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW > > Hi, > > There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We can't answer this. Can someone else do this? > http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en > > Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. > > Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught > Bugs and issues: > Creating Effective materials: > Developers > General chat > MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford > Third party support: Inge Donkervoort > Wish list > Espanol > Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort > Norsk > > > Bye, > Inge > > 1 2 Change > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 4 15:01:45 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:01:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <9BD8BED7-AAFE-497A-A281-D9035B38D6B2@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <002101ce5ddd$7f5f2320$7e1d6960$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <3617e2f9d4353c39215bbb625474c88739dd8b1d@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D2B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9BD8BED7-AAFE-497A-A281-D9035B38D6B2@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4033@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney > wrote: If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Good Morning everyone, I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules Hello, https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile and https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jun 4 16:15:45 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:15:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4033@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <002101ce5ddd$7f5f2320$7e1d6960$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <3617e2f9d4353c39215bbb625474c88739dd8b1d@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D2B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9BD8BED7-AAFE-497A-A281-D9035B38D6B2@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4033@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3A8FA373-86D0-4068-8447-0A8CA2CECF9F@pgogywebstuff.com> It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. > > Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. > > Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? > > So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install > > If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > > If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. > > Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? > > The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: > > Sent: > Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > Good Morning everyone, > > > I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. > > > I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. > > > I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. > > > The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. > > > There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. > > > This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. > > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > ========================================================== > Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern > Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity > Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern > Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN > For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 > To: For technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules > > > Hello, > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile > > > and > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree > > > 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 4 16:44:06 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:44:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <3A8FA373-86D0-4068-8447-0A8CA2CECF9F@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <002101ce5ddd$7f5f2320$7e1d6960$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <3617e2f9d4353c39215bbb625474c88739dd8b1d@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D2B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9BD8BED7-AAFE-497A-A281-D9035B38D6B2@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4033@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3A8FA373-86D0-4068-8447-0A8CA2CECF9F@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4113@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney > wrote: If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Good Morning everyone, I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules Hello, https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile and https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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I'll add you to the bugs and issues. :) 12Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 4-6-2013 10:55, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I'm happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if > someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I'm not > always the best person for those sorts of questions..? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Inge > Donkervoort 12Change > *Sent:* 03 June 2013 21:07 > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW > > Hi, > > There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We > can't answer this. Can someone else do this? > http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en > > > Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to > take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be > more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the > responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable > time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts > within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I > can add those to the FAQ page. > > Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught > Bugs and issues: > Creating Effective materials: > Developers > General chat > MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford > Third party support: Inge Donkervoort > Wish list > Espanol > Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort > Norsk > > > Bye, > Inge > > 12Change > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Bye, Inge 12Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 4-6-2013 11:04, Smith, John schreef: > > Happy to pop my head in every now and again... > > Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get > an email with a link straight to the post preferably? > > Regards, > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW > > I'm happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if > someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I'm not > always the best person for those sorts of questions..? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Inge > Donkervoort 12Change > *Sent:* 03 June 2013 21:07 > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW > > Hi, > > There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We > can't answer this. Can someone else do this? > http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en > > > Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to > take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be > more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the > responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable > time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts > within your category. 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Can someone else do this? >> http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en >> >> >> Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants >> to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be >> more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the >> responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable >> time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts >> within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I >> can add those to the FAQ page. >> >> Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught >> Bugs and issues: >> Creating Effective materials: >> Developers >> General chat >> MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford >> Third party support: Inge Donkervoort >> Wish list >> Espanol >> Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort >> Norsk >> >> >> Bye, >> Inge >> >> 12Change >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242 HM Rosmalen >> T 073-5226195 >> F 073-5226196 >> E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu >> I www.12change.eu >> >> T twitter >> L linkedIn >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained >> in this message or in any attachment. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:12 PM To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW Hi John, Thx! What categorie would you like to be moderator of? If you are a moderator you get automaticly email from your categorie. For the other categories you can subscribe yourself so you see everything in the email. [cid:image001.png at 01CE61DB.0BD78990] Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 4-6-2013 11:04, Smith, John schreef: Happy to pop my head in every now and again... Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get an email with a link straight to the post preferably? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW I'm happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I'm not always the best person for those sorts of questions..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 03 June 2013 21:07 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW Hi, There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We can't answer this. Can someone else do this? http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught Bugs and issues: Creating Effective materials: Developers General chat MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford Third party support: Inge Donkervoort Wish list Espanol Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort Norsk Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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You are now official moderator in these categories. 12Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 5-6-2013 12:01, Smith, John schreef: > > Hi Inge, > > From the descriptions, I think I'd fit best in either or all of: > > ?Developers > > ?Wishlist > > ?Bugs and Issues, > > ?Third party support > > So happy for you to fit me into any or all of these as required, > depending on the others... > > I've added the RSS feed from Recent Topics into my Outlook which seems > to work too, to give notification when something new is posted... > might revisit that though when the forum gets really busy though!! > > Regards, > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Inge > Donkervoort 12Change > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:12 PM > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW > > Hi John, > > Thx! What categorie would you like to be moderator of? > If you are a moderator you get automaticly email from your categorie. > For the other categories you can subscribe yourself so you see > everything in the email. > > > > Bye, > Inge > > 12Change > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn > > > Op 4-6-2013 11:04, Smith, John schreef: > > Happy to pop my head in every now and again... > > Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get > an email with a link straight to the post preferably? > > Regards, > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW > > I'm happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if > someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I'm not > always the best person for those sorts of questions..? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Inge > Donkervoort 12Change > *Sent:* 03 June 2013 21:07 > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW > > Hi, > > There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We > can't answer this. Can someone else do this? > http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en > > > Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to > take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be > more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the > responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable > time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts > within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I > can add those to the FAQ page. > > Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught > Bugs and issues: > Creating Effective materials: > Developers > General chat > MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford > Third party support: Inge Donkervoort > Wish list > Espanol > Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort > Norsk > > > Bye, > Inge > > 12Change > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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In IIS Manager right click on the folder and go to properties > * In Directory Security make the folder Anonymous Access > * In HTTP headers select MIME Types and add > * Extension: .rlm and MIMEtype: text/plain > * Extension: .rlo and MIMEtype: text/plain > * Extension: .rlt and MIMEtype: text/plain Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You are now official moderator in these categories. 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 5-6-2013 12:01, Smith, John schreef: Hi Inge, >From the descriptions, I think I'd fit best in either or all of: * Developers * Wishlist * Bugs and Issues, * Third party support So happy for you to fit me into any or all of these as required, depending on the others... I've added the RSS feed from Recent Topics into my Outlook which seems to work too, to give notification when something new is posted... might revisit that though when the forum gets really busy though!! Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:12 PM To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW Hi John, Thx! What categorie would you like to be moderator of? If you are a moderator you get automaticly email from your categorie. For the other categories you can subscribe yourself so you see everything in the email. [cid:image001.png at 01CE620B.63BA7750] Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 4-6-2013 11:04, Smith, John schreef: Happy to pop my head in every now and again... Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get an email with a link straight to the post preferably? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW I'm happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I'm not always the best person for those sorts of questions..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 03 June 2013 21:07 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW Hi, There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We can't answer this. Can someone else do this? http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 47345 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jun 5 08:27:01 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 08:27:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4113@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <002101ce5ddd$7f5f2320$7e1d6960$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <3617e2f9d4353c39215bbb625474c88739dd8b1d@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D2B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9BD8BED7-AAFE-497A-A281-D9035B38D6B2@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4033@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3A8FA373-86D0-4068-8447-0A8CA2CECF9F@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4113@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <721D6B25-4A3E-4942-BAF8-0D8374E39F31@pgogywebstuff.com> I think the App Store route makes more sense then On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney wrote: > > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. > > My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. > > Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. > > Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. > > Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? > > So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install > > If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > > If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. > > Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? > > The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: > > Sent: > Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > > Good Morning everyone, > > > I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. > > > I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. > > > I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. > > > The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. > > > There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. > > > This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. > > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > ========================================================== > Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern > Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity > Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern > Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN > For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 > To: For technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules > > > Hello, > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile > > > and > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree > > > 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. 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For the other categories you can subscribe yourself so you see everything in the email. > > > > Bye, > Inge > > 1 2 Change > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn > > Op 4-6-2013 11:04, Smith, John schreef: >> >> Happy to pop my head in every now and again? >> >> Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get an email with a link straight to the post preferably? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW >> >> I?m happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I?m not always the best person for those sorts of questions..? >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change >> Sent: 03 June 2013 21:07 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW >> >> Hi, >> >> There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We can't answer this. Can someone else do this? >> http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en >> >> Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. >> >> Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught >> Bugs and issues: >> Creating Effective materials: >> Developers >> General chat >> MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford >> Third party support: Inge Donkervoort >> Wish list >> Espanol >> Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort >> Norsk >> >> >> Bye, >> Inge >> >> 1 2 Change >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242 HM Rosmalen >> T 073-5226195 >> F 073-5226196 >> E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu >> I www.12change.eu >> >> T twitter >> L linkedIn >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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In IIS Manager right click on the folder and go to properties > > * In Directory Security make the folder Anonymous Access > > * In HTTP headers select MIME Types and add > > * Extension: .rlm and MIMEtype: text/plain > > * Extension: .rlo and MIMEtype: text/plain > > * Extension: .rlt and MIMEtype: text/plain > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 5 20:08:36 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 20:08:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Documentation, Install on IIS Message-ID: Really? Hmm how did I get past it... Well that's very strange... John Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: "Pat @ Pgogy" Date: 05/06/2013 17:42 (GMT+00:00) To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Documentation, Install on IIS There is a mine type checker as one of the installer tests :) On 5 Jun 2013, at 16:16, "Smith, John" > wrote: Hi, This post (http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2010-February/004255.html) just saved me a lot of head scratching today? can this info go in the Installation Guide somewhere? It?s in relation to this error when playing a Flash LO ERROR: The RLO file modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/Nottingham.rlt failed to load. My first instinct was file/folder permissions as the file was definitely there but it turned out to be because these 3 mime types weren?t set? 6. In IIS Manager right click on the folder and go to properties > * In Directory Security make the folder Anonymous Access > * In HTTP headers select MIME Types and add > * Extension: .rlm and MIMEtype: text/plain > * Extension: .rlo and MIMEtype: text/plain > * Extension: .rlt and MIMEtype: text/plain Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 5 20:10:56 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 20:10:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Http error on media upload in wizard, media and quota tab upload fine... Message-ID: Anyone seen this wizard error before? http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=50&mesid=124&Itemid=759&lang=en John Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: "Pat @ Pgogy" Date: 05/06/2013 17:42 (GMT+00:00) To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Documentation, Install on IIS There is a mine type checker as one of the installer tests :) On 5 Jun 2013, at 16:16, "Smith, John" > wrote: Hi, This post (http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2010-February/004255.html) just saved me a lot of head scratching today? can this info go in the Installation Guide somewhere? It?s in relation to this error when playing a Flash LO ERROR: The RLO file modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/Nottingham.rlt failed to load. My first instinct was file/folder permissions as the file was definitely there but it turned out to be because these 3 mime types weren?t set? 6. In IIS Manager right click on the folder and go to properties > * In Directory Security make the folder Anonymous Access > * In HTTP headers select MIME Types and add > * Extension: .rlm and MIMEtype: text/plain > * Extension: .rlo and MIMEtype: text/plain > * Extension: .rlt and MIMEtype: text/plain Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jun 6 08:41:53 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:41:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW In-Reply-To: <51AF5304.2040404@12change.eu> References: <51ACF75E.30803@12change.eu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51AE1FDD.7030607@12change.eu> <51AF5304.2040404@12change.eu> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713BF97@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If John, myself and Pat look after bugs and issues, I think we've got it all covered. I guess this might be the busiest part of the forum, or the one where it's important to be responsive? I've always been proud of our support to end users, and keen that we keep up timely and responsive support. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 05 June 2013 16:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW Thx! You are now official moderator in these categories. 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 5-6-2013 12:01, Smith, John schreef: Hi Inge, >From the descriptions, I think I'd fit best in either or all of: * Developers * Wishlist * Bugs and Issues, * Third party support So happy for you to fit me into any or all of these as required, depending on the others... I've added the RSS feed from Recent Topics into my Outlook which seems to work too, to give notification when something new is posted... might revisit that though when the forum gets really busy though!! Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:12 PM To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW Hi John, Thx! What categorie would you like to be moderator of? If you are a moderator you get automaticly email from your categorie. For the other categories you can subscribe yourself so you see everything in the email. [cid:image001.png at 01CE6291.B1E296C0] Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 4-6-2013 11:04, Smith, John schreef: Happy to pop my head in every now and again... Can you subscribe to the Forum so that when new posts are made you get an email with a link straight to the post preferably? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:56 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Question in forum XCW I'm happy to take on bugs and issues, but would appreciate it if someone on the .php side could also help moderate this because I'm not always the best person for those sorts of questions..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 03 June 2013 21:07 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Question in forum XCW Hi, There's a question in the forum from the XCW that needs an answer. We can't answer this. Can someone else do this? http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=47&Itemid=759&lang=en Another question is that we need moderators in the forum. Who wants to take care of one or more categories in the XCW forum? There can be more than one moderator in the different categories. You have the responsibility to make sure that feedback is given within reasonable time by you or someone else. Secondly remove spam from of the posts within your category. Thirdly report repetitive questions to me so I can add those to the FAQ page. Accessibility: moderator Alistair McNaught Bugs and issues: Creating Effective materials: Developers General chat MAXOS: moderator Thomas Rochford Third party support: Inge Donkervoort Wish list Espanol Nederlands: Katrien Bernaerts & Inge Donkervoort Norsk Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules I think the App Store route makes more sense then On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney > wrote: > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney > wrote: If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Good Morning everyone, I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules Hello, https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile and https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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On 5 Jun 2013, at 20:08, "Smith, John" wrote: > Really? Hmm how did I get past it... > > Well that's very strange... > > John > > Sent from Samsung tablet > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Pat @ Pgogy" > Date: 05/06/2013 17:42 (GMT+00:00) > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Documentation, Install on IIS > > > There is a mine type checker as one of the installer tests :) > > On 5 Jun 2013, at 16:16, "Smith, John" > wrote: > > Hi, > > This post (http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2010-February/004255.html) just saved me a lot of head scratching today? can this info go in the Installation Guide somewhere? It?s in relation to this error when playing a Flash LO > > ERROR: The RLO file modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/Nottingham.rlt failed to load. > > My first instinct was file/folder permissions as the file was definitely there but it turned out to be because these 3 mime types weren?t set? > > 6. In IIS Manager right click on the folder and go to properties >> * In Directory Security make the folder Anonymous Access >> * In HTTP headers select MIME Types and add >> * Extension: .rlm and MIMEtype: text/plain >> * Extension: .rlo and MIMEtype: text/plain >> * Extension: .rlt and MIMEtype: text/plain > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Jun 6 11:10:10 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:10:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713BFA7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <002101ce5ddd$7f5f2320$7e1d6960$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <3617e2f9d4353c39215bbb625474c88739dd8b1d@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D2B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9BD8BED7-AAFE-497A-A281-D9035B38D6B2@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4033@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3A8FA373-86D0-4068-8447-0A8CA2CECF9F@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4113@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <721D6B25-4A3E-4942-BAF8-0D8374E39F31@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713BFA7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > I think the App Store route makes more sense then For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules I think the App Store route makes more sense then On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney > wrote: > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney > wrote: If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Good Morning everyone, I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules Hello, https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile and https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jun 6 11:23:24 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:23:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: References: <002101ce5ddd$7f5f2320$7e1d6960$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <3617e2f9d4353c39215bbb625474c88739dd8b1d@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D2B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9BD8BED7-AAFE-497A-A281-D9035B38D6B2@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4033@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3A8FA373-86D0-4068-8447-0A8CA2CECF9F@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4113@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <721D6B25-4A3E-4942-BAF8-0D8374E39F31@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713BFA7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713C112@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ?app store?? Maybe that?s a none-starter, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 06 June 2013 11:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > I think the App Store route makes more sense then For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules I think the App Store route makes more sense then On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney > wrote: > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney > wrote: If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Good Morning everyone, I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules Hello, https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile and https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Jun 6 11:48:29 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:48:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713C112@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <002101ce5ddd$7f5f2320$7e1d6960$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <3617e2f9d4353c39215bbb625474c88739dd8b1d@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D2B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9BD8BED7-AAFE-497A-A281-D9035B38D6B2@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4033@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3A8FA373-86D0-4068-8447-0A8CA2CECF9F@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4113@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <721D6B25-4A3E-4942-BAF8-0D8374E39F31@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713BFA7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713C112@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I still think the idea of an ?App Store? or more likely an ?Extend? area is a good one? the plugins could go in there too for example, as well as themes and the more that end users who don?t want to really get involved in the really technical stuff can still get involved means that the Community can still grow? I think Data Visualisation is going to be very important in the future and Pat?s Simile Timeline creator will be fantastic.., already have plans for that for a few nursing based things? The DecisionTree is another one that might even have more potential, especially within areas where Scenario Based Learning is in use and also just to evaluate and focus learning where it?s is required? So I?m really excited about these two extensions that Pat has produced and I?m going to start building some things soon with them? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:23 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ?app store?? Maybe that?s a none-starter, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 06 June 2013 11:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > I think the App Store route makes more sense then For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules I think the App Store route makes more sense then On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney > wrote: > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney > wrote: If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Good Morning everyone, I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules Hello, https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile and https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:23:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ?app store?? Maybe that?s a none-starter, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 06 June 2013 11:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? Regards, John SmithLearning TechnologistSchool of Health & Life SciencesGlasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > I think the App Store route makes more sense thenFor end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules I think the App Store route makes more sense then On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney wrote:> It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney wrote:I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney wrote:If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.comMakers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message -----From:"For Xerte technical developers" To:"For Xerte technical developers" Cc: Sent:Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100Subject:[Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Good Morning everyone, I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules Hello, https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile and https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.comMakers of Web things of a fair to middling quality This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Thu Jun 6 11:52:33 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:52:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: References: <002101ce5ddd$7f5f2320$7e1d6960$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <3617e2f9d4353c39215bbb625474c88739dd8b1d@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC3D2B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9BD8BED7-AAFE-497A-A281-D9035B38D6B2@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4033@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3A8FA373-86D0-4068-8447-0A8CA2CECF9F@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C66FC4113@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <721D6B25-4A3E-4942-BAF8-0D8374E39F31@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713BFA7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: XOT has next to no user roles so you might need to have a template approval role or some such. Could make developing templates easier? On 6 Jun 2013, at 11:10, "Smith, John" wrote: > Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? > > Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > I think the App Store route makes more sense then > For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > I think the App Store route makes more sense then > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. > > My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. > > Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. > > Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. > > Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? > > So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install > > If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > > If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. > > Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? > > The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: > > Sent: > Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > > Good Morning everyone, > > > I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. > > > I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. > > > I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. > > > The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. > > > There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. > > > This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. > > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > ========================================================== > Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern > Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity > Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern > Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN > For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 > To: For technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules > > > Hello, > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile > > > and > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree > > > 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: Forum XCW [mailto:forum at xerte.org.uk] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:14 PM To: Smith, John Subject: [Forum XCW] Scorm export - localhost (Bugs and Issues) Een nieuw antwoord is te vinden op de Forum XCW Bericht onderwerp : Scorm export - localhost Categorie : Bugs and Issues Geplaatst door : Jans Ruben URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=52&mesid=134&Itemid=759&lang=nl Bericht : ----- Thanks with the version it works! ;-) ----- U kunt zich uitschrijven van dit onderwerp door het bezoeken van het onderwerp en te klikken op de knop Abonnement opzeggen in de buurt van de boven- of onderkant van de pagina. Beantwoord deze e-mailnotificatie niet daar deze automatisch is gegenereerd. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Jun 6 13:30:12 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:30:12 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible forum issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51B080D4.2090404@tor.nl> Don't know what happened there. I could see it as Superadmin, but the message was in a weird state.... You should be able to see it now. Op 6-6-2013 14:10, Smith, John schreef: > I got this email from the Forum with ' Thanks with the version it works! ;-)' > > But I can't see it on the forum... I suppose the user might have deleted it after sending but just thought I'd check... > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Forum XCW [mailto:forum at xerte.org.uk] > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:14 PM > To: Smith, John > Subject: [Forum XCW] Scorm export - localhost (Bugs and Issues) > > > Een nieuw antwoord is te vinden op de Forum XCW > > Bericht onderwerp : Scorm export - localhost Categorie : Bugs and Issues Geplaatst door : Jans Ruben > > URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=52&mesid=134&Itemid=759&lang=nl > > Bericht : > ----- > Thanks with the version it works! ;-) > ----- > > U kunt zich uitschrijven van dit onderwerp door het bezoeken van het onderwerp en te klikken op de knop Abonnement opzeggen in de buurt van de boven- of onderkant van de pagina. > > Beantwoord deze e-mailnotificatie niet daar deze automatisch is gegenereerd. > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Jun 6 13:31:38 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:31:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Anyone have any ideas with this Scorm export issue... i'm stumped... 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Sun Jun 9 13:43:30 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 13:43:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3c095ba5eb65b0d6315eb715192f40a84fdc8f09@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> See new email :)? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.comMakers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" To:"For Xerte technical developers" Cc: Sent:Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:48:29 +0100 Subject:[Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules I still think the idea of an ?App Store? or more likely an ?Extend? area is a good one? the plugins could go in there too for example, as well as themes and the more that end users who don?t want to really get involved in the really technical stuff can still get involved means that the Community can still grow? ? I think Data Visualisation is going to be very important in the future and Pat?s Simile Timeline creator will be fantastic.., already have plans for that for a few nursing based things? The DecisionTree is another one that might even have more potential, especially within areas where Scenario Based Learning is in use and also just to evaluate and focus learning where it?s is required? ? So I?m really excited about these two extensions that Pat has produced and I?m going to start building some things soon with them? ? Regards, ? John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF Julian Tenney SENT: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:23 AM TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules ? Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ?app store?? ? Maybe that?s a none-starter, ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [1] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [2]] ON BEHALF OF Smith, John SENT: 06 June 2013 11:10 TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules ? Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? ? Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? ? Regards, ? John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [3] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [4]] ON BEHALF OF Julian Tenney SENT: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules ? > I think the App Store route makes more sense then For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though. ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at listsnottingham.ac.uk [5] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [6]] ON BEHALF OF Pat @ Pgogy SENT: 05 June 2013 08:27 TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules ? I think the App Store route makes more sense then On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney wrote: > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? ? You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [8] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [9]] ON BEHALF OF Pat @ Pgogy SENT: 04 June 2013 16:16 TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules ? It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? ? You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. ? My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. ? Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney wrote: I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. ? Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. ? Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? ? ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [11] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [12]] ON BEHALF OF Pat @ Pgogy SENT: 04 June 2013 13:44 TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules ? There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? ? So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install ? If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney wrote: If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [14] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [15]] ON BEHALF OF Pat @ Pgogy SENT: 03 June 2013 19:30 TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules ? Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? ? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com [16] Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ? ----- Original Message ----- FROM: "For Xerte technical developers" ? TO: "For Xerte technical developers" CC: ? SENT: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Good Morning everyone, ? I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. ? I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. ? I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. ? The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. ? There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. ? This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. ? Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford? |? e-Learning Advisor? |? Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 |? Mobile: 07500 669002? |? Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk [19]? |? Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern [20] Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk [21] ? ? ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [22] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [23]] ON BEHALF OF Pat @ Pgogy SENT: 30 May 2013 23:09 TO: For technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] New Modules ? Hello, ? https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile [24] ? and ? https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree [25] ? 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com [26] Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ? ? 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sun Jun 9 21:27:53 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:27:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <3c095ba5eb65b0d6315eb715192f40a84fdc8f09@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> References: , <3c095ba5eb65b0d6315eb715192f40a84fdc8f09@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> Message-ID: Just had a look... brilliant... now all you need to do is write an auto updater for the whole site ;-) Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 09 June 2013 13:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules See new email :) Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" To: "For Xerte technical developers" Cc: Sent: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:48:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules I still think the idea of an ?App Store? or more likely an ?Extend? area is a good one? the plugins could go in there too for example, as well as themes and the more that end users who don?t want to really get involved in the really technical stuff can still get involved means that the Community can still grow? I think Data Visualisation is going to be very important in the future and Pat?s Simile Timeline creator will be fantastic.., already have plans for that for a few nursing based things? The DecisionTree is another one that might even have more potential, especially within areas where Scenario Based Learning is in use and also just to evaluate and focus learning where it?s is required? So I?m really excited about these two extensions that Pat has produced and I?m going to start building some things soon with them? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:23 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ?app store?? Maybe that?s a none-starter, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 06 June 2013 11:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > I think the App Store route makes more sense then For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules I think the App Store route makes more sense then On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney > wrote: > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney > wrote: If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Good Morning everyone, I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules Hello, https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile and https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sun Jun 9 21:31:56 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:31:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <3c095ba5eb65b0d6315eb715192f40a84fdc8f09@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> References: , <3c095ba5eb65b0d6315eb715192f40a84fdc8f09@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> Message-ID: Meant to say, I've been using your Decision Tree and it's brilliant but there are 2 save buttons at the bottom and 1 works and 1 doesn't - in fact the one that doesn't ends up wiping the whole LO... Not sure what it's purpose is supposed to be or if it's even supposed to be there but thought i'd let you know... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 09 June 2013 13:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules See new email :) Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" To: "For Xerte technical developers" Cc: Sent: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:48:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules I still think the idea of an ?App Store? or more likely an ?Extend? area is a good one? the plugins could go in there too for example, as well as themes and the more that end users who don?t want to really get involved in the really technical stuff can still get involved means that the Community can still grow? I think Data Visualisation is going to be very important in the future and Pat?s Simile Timeline creator will be fantastic.., already have plans for that for a few nursing based things? The DecisionTree is another one that might even have more potential, especially within areas where Scenario Based Learning is in use and also just to evaluate and focus learning where it?s is required? So I?m really excited about these two extensions that Pat has produced and I?m going to start building some things soon with them? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:23 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ?app store?? Maybe that?s a none-starter, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 06 June 2013 11:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > I think the App Store route makes more sense then For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules I think the App Store route makes more sense then On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney > wrote: > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney > wrote: If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Good Morning everyone, I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules Hello, https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile and https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 07:46:56 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:46:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: Images - by: John Clayton Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713C858@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Do you know why the rss feeds I subscribe to for the forum keep throwing me old entries? This appeared this morning, it?s from February Feed: Forum XCW :: Recent Topics Posted on: 21 February 2013 20:01 Author: Forum XCW :: Recent Topics Subject: Images - by: John Clayton I know this maybe simple but we have just created an install of XOT 1.9 and for some reason cannot display images. In the image field we select an image, it appears to upload, we get the message FileLocation + 'media/portfolio.jpg' Then when we use preview button we get the message You must select media before you can view it Can anyone help? John View article... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This appeared this morning, it's from February > > *Feed:*Forum XCW :: Recent Topics > *Posted on:* 21 February 2013 20:01 > *Author:* Forum XCW :: Recent Topics > *Subject:* Images - by: John Clayton > > I know this maybe simple but we have just created an install of XOT > 1.9 and for some reason cannot display images. > > In the image field we select an image, it appears to upload, we get > the message > > /FileLocation + 'media/portfolio.jpg'/ > > Then when we use preview button we get the message > /You must select media before you can view it/ > > Can anyone help? > > John > > > View article... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 07:57:22 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:57:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Images - by: John Clayton In-Reply-To: <51B57863.4010304@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713C858@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51B57863.4010304@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713C85D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK thanks, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 June 2013 07:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Images - by: John Clayton It's just a feed of recent topics, not of new unique entries. The feed just runs once in a while and sends out the most recent topics in a category. That's why I don;'t use the rss feed, but subscribe to email notifications. That will send out 1 e-mail for every new entry. As far as I know, you have to do that for each category separately. Regards, Tom Op 10-6-2013 8:46, Julian Tenney schreef: Do you know why the rss feeds I subscribe to for the forum keep throwing me old entries? This appeared this morning, it's from February Feed: Forum XCW :: Recent Topics Posted on: 21 February 2013 20:01 Author: Forum XCW :: Recent Topics Subject: Images - by: John Clayton I know this maybe simple but we have just created an install of XOT 1.9 and for some reason cannot display images. In the image field we select an image, it appears to upload, we get the message FileLocation + 'media/portfolio.jpg' Then when we use preview button we get the message You must select media before you can view it Can anyone help? John View article... _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jun 10 09:31:51 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:31:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: References: <3c095ba5eb65b0d6315eb715192f40a84fdc8f09@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> Message-ID: <71DCDB80-5AF6-4950-91A8-95E00704A1FC@pgogywebstuff.com> Errrr, it is supposed to save without previewing.... Let me check On 9 Jun 2013, at 21:31, "Smith, John" wrote: > Meant to say, I've been using your Decision Tree and it's brilliant but there are 2 save buttons at the bottom and 1 works and 1 doesn't - in fact the one that doesn't ends up wiping the whole LO... > > Not sure what it's purpose is supposed to be or if it's even supposed to be there but thought i'd let you know... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > Sent: 09 June 2013 13:43 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > See new email :) > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: > > Sent: > Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:48:29 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > I still think the idea of an ?App Store? or more likely an ?Extend? area is a good one? the plugins could go in there too for example, as well as themes and the more that end users who don?t want to really get involved in the really technical stuff can still get involved means that the Community can still grow? > > > I think Data Visualisation is going to be very important in the future and Pat?s Simile Timeline creator will be fantastic.., already have plans for that for a few nursing based things? The DecisionTree is another one that might even have more potential, especially within areas where Scenario Based Learning is in use and also just to evaluate and focus learning where it?s is required? > > > So I?m really excited about these two extensions that Pat has produced and I?m going to start building some things soon with them? > > > Regards, > > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:23 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ?app store?? > > > Maybe that?s a none-starter, > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 06 June 2013 11:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? > > > Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? > > > Regards, > > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > >> I think the App Store route makes more sense then > For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though. > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > I think the App Store route makes more sense then > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. > > My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. > > Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. > > Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. > > Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? > > So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install > > If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney > wrote: > If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. > > Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? > > The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > Cc: > > Sent: > Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Good Morning everyone, > > > I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. > > > I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. > > > I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. > > > The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. > > > There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. > > > This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. > > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > ========================================================== > Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern > Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity > Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern > Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN > For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 > To: For technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules > > > Hello, > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile > > > and > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree > > > 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 10:13:51 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:13:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <71DCDB80-5AF6-4950-91A8-95E00704A1FC@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <3c095ba5eb65b0d6315eb715192f40a84fdc8f09@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> <71DCDB80-5AF6-4950-91A8-95E00704A1FC@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Yeah in mine there are 3 buttons, a preview button and then 2x save buttons... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Errrr, it is supposed to save without previewing.... Let me check On 9 Jun 2013, at 21:31, "Smith, John" wrote: > Meant to say, I've been using your Decision Tree and it's brilliant but there are 2 save buttons at the bottom and 1 works and 1 doesn't - in fact the one that doesn't ends up wiping the whole LO... > > Not sure what it's purpose is supposed to be or if it's even supposed to be there but thought i'd let you know... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > Sent: 09 June 2013 13:43 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > See new email :) > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: > > Sent: > Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:48:29 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > I still think the idea of an ?App Store? or more likely an ?Extend? > area is a good one? the plugins could go in there too for example, as > well as themes and the more that end users who don?t want to really > get involved in the really technical stuff can still get involved > means that the Community can still grow? > > > I think Data Visualisation is going to be very important in the future > and Pat?s Simile Timeline creator will be fantastic.., already have > plans for that for a few nursing based things? The DecisionTree is > another one that might even have more potential, especially within > areas where Scenario Based Learning is in use and also just to > evaluate and focus learning where it?s is required? > > > So I?m really excited about these two extensions that Pat has produced > and I?m going to start building some things soon with them? > > > Regards, > > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:23 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ?app store?? > > > Maybe that?s a none-starter, > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 06 June 2013 11:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? > > > Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? > > > Regards, > > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > >> I think the App Store route makes more sense then > For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though. > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > I think the App Store route makes more sense then > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. > My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make > sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can > mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do > everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or > the benefits other developers will bring? > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. > > My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. > > Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. > > Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. > > Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? > > So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the > core code and becomes part of the install > > If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the > alternative is to build some sort of app store > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney > wrote: > If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. > > Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? > > The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > .uk>> > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > .uk>> > Cc: > > Sent: > Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Good Morning everyone, > > > I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. > > > I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. > > > I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. > > > The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. > > > There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. > > > This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. > > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > ========================================================== > Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern > Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: > cambridge.serendipity > Email: > thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk c.uk> | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, > 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, > resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk > > > > > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 > To: For technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules > > > Hello, > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile > > > and > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree > > > 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. > Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some > skinning could be quite powerful > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > fair to middling quality > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jun 10 10:42:45 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:42:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <686303c5510f532ebb9c566e4afddd765fd4d1a8@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> Ah ok lines 823 of edit.php - change save for publish on the button change data_save, to be data_publish -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 11:53:45 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:53:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <686303c5510f532ebb9c566e4afddd765fd4d1a8@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> References: <686303c5510f532ebb9c566e4afddd765fd4d1a8@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> Message-ID: Cheers, will give it a try? and will crack on with the api? sorry it?s taking so long ? really busy just now? ? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 10:43 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Ah ok lines 823 of edit.php - change save for publish on the button change data_save, to be data_publish
then at line 154 try adding $("#data_publish").val(JSON.stringify(data, null, 2)); That should fix it. I think. Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:13:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Yeah in mine there are 3 buttons, a preview button and then 2x save buttons... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Errrr, it is supposed to save without previewing.... Let me check On 9 Jun 2013, at 21:31, "Smith, John" > wrote: > Meant to say, I've been using your Decision Tree and it's brilliant but there are 2 save buttons at the bottom and 1 works and 1 doesn't - in fact the one that doesn't ends up wiping the whole LO... > > Not sure what it's purpose is supposed to be or if it's even supposed to be there but thought i'd let you know... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > Sent: 09 June 2013 13:43 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > See new email :) > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > Cc: > > Sent: > Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:48:29 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > I still think the idea of an ?App Store? or more likely an ?Extend? > area is a good one? the plugins could go in there too for example, as > well as themes and the more that end users who don?t want to really > get involved in the really technical stuff can still get involved > means that the Community can still grow? > > > I think Data Visualisation is going to be very important in the future > and Pat?s Simile Timeline creator will be fantastic.., already have > plans for that for a few nursing based things? The DecisionTree is > another one that might even have more potential, especially within > areas where Scenario Based Learning is in use and also just to > evaluate and focus learning where it?s is required? > > > So I?m really excited about these two extensions that Pat has produced > and I?m going to start building some things soon with them? > > > Regards, > > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:23 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ?app store?? > > > Maybe that?s a none-starter, > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 06 June 2013 11:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? > > > Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? > > > Regards, > > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > >> I think the App Store route makes more sense then > For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > I think the App Store route makes more sense then > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. > My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make > sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can > mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do > everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or > the benefits other developers will bring? > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. > > My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. > > Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney >> wrote: > I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. > > Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. > > Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? > > So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the > core code and becomes part of the install > > If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the > alternative is to build some sort of app store > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney >> wrote: > If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. > > Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? > > The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > .uk>> > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > .uk>> > Cc: > > Sent: > Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Good Morning everyone, > > > I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. > > > I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. > > > I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. > > > The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. > > > There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. > > > This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. > > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > ========================================================== > Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern > Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: > cambridge.serendipity > Email: > thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk > c.uk> | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, > 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, > resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk > > > > > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > snottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 > To: For technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules > > > Hello, > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile > > > and > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree > > > 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. > Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some > skinning could be quite powerful > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > fair to middling quality > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jun 10 13:08:34 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:08:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: References: <686303c5510f532ebb9c566e4afddd765fd4d1a8@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> Message-ID: <562874EA-A2F3-4D6D-B60F-9D03DBD740D2@pgogywebstuff.com> I noticed that when I was githubbing On 10 Jun 2013, at 11:53, "Smith, John" wrote: > Cheers, will give it a try? and will crack on with the api? sorry it?s taking so long ? really busy just now? L > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 10:43 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Ah ok > > lines 823 of edit.php - change save for publish on the button > > change data_save, to be data_publish > > >
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> > then at line 154 try adding > > $("#data_publish").val(JSON.stringify(data, null, 2)); > > That should fix it. I think. > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: > > Sent: > Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:13:51 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > Yeah in mine there are 3 buttons, a preview button and then 2x save buttons... > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:32 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Errrr, it is supposed to save without previewing.... Let me check > > On 9 Jun 2013, at 21:31, "Smith, John" wrote: > > > Meant to say, I've been using your Decision Tree and it's brilliant but there are 2 save buttons at the bottom and 1 works and 1 doesn't - in fact the one that doesn't ends up wiping the whole LO... > > > > Not sure what it's purpose is supposed to be or if it's even supposed to be there but thought i'd let you know... > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > > [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > > Sent: 09 June 2013 13:43 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > See new email :) > > > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > > fair to middling quality > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > "For Xerte technical developers" > > > > To: > > "For Xerte technical developers" > > Cc: > > > > Sent: > > Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:48:29 +0100 > > Subject: > > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > > > I still think the idea of an ?App Store? or more likely an ?Extend? > > area is a good one? the plugins could go in there too for example, as > > well as themes and the more that end users who don?t want to really > > get involved in the really technical stuff can still get involved > > means that the Community can still grow? > > > > > > I think Data Visualisation is going to be very important in the future > > and Pat?s Simile Timeline creator will be fantastic.., already have > > plans for that for a few nursing based things? The DecisionTree is > > another one that might even have more potential, especially within > > areas where Scenario Based Learning is in use and also just to > > evaluate and focus learning where it?s is required? > > > > > > So I?m really excited about these two extensions that Pat has produced > > and I?m going to start building some things soon with them? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > > Tenney > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:23 AM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > > > Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ?app store?? > > > > > > Maybe that?s a none-starter, > > > > > > From: > > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > > On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 06 June 2013 11:10 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > > > Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? > > > > > > Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > > > From: > > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > > On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > > >> I think the App Store route makes more sense then > > For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though > > > > > > From: > > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > > Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > > > I think the App Store route makes more sense then > > > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney > wrote: > >> It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > > > You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. > > My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make > > sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can > > mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do > > everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or > > the benefits other developers will bring? > > > > From: > > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > > Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > > > You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. > > > > My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. > > > > Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. > > > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. > > > > Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. > > > > Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? > > > > > > From: > > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > > Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? > > > > So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the > > core code and becomes part of the install > > > > If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the > > alternative is to build some sort of app store > > > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? > > > > From: > > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > > Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. > > > > Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? > > > > The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? > > > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > > fair to middling quality > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > "For Xerte technical developers" > > > .uk>> > > > > To: > > "For Xerte technical developers" > > > .uk>> > > Cc: > > > > Sent: > > Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 > > Subject: > > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > > Good Morning everyone, > > > > > > I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. > > > > > > I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. > > > > > > I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. > > > > > > The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. > > > > > > There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. > > > > > > This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. > > > > > > Kindest Regards, > > Thomas > > ========================================================== > > Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern > > Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: > > cambridge.serendipity > > Email: > > thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk > c.uk> | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, > > 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, > > resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > snottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > > Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 > > To: For technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile > > > > > > and > > > > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree > > > > > > 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. > > Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some > > skinning could be quite powerful > > > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > > fair to middling quality > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: I wanted to write some release notes, I haven?t finished them yet, but have you got any other things I should include? HTML5 is the big thing, obviously, and a lot of other stuff isn?t directly noticeable by end users. Have I missed anything? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 13:40:05 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:40:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB0E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK. Mentioning SCORM is a bit of a double edged sword because I think it confuses people, certainly I come across a variety of interpretations of what it means... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 June 2013 13:39 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 Only thing i can think of would be the scorm improvements. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: I wanted to write some release notes, I haven't finished them yet, but have you got any other things I should include? HTML5 is the big thing, obviously, and a lot of other stuff isn't directly noticeable by end users. Have I missed anything? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 13:46:46 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:46:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB0E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB0E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I just meant something like "better integration with your VLE where required..." or something but sure, leave it out... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:40 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 OK. Mentioning SCORM is a bit of a double edged sword because I think it confuses people, certainly I come across a variety of interpretations of what it means... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 June 2013 13:39 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 Only thing i can think of would be the scorm improvements. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: I wanted to write some release notes, I haven't finished them yet, but have you got any other things I should include? HTML5 is the big thing, obviously, and a lot of other stuff isn't directly noticeable by end users. Have I missed anything? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 13:48:01 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:48:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB0E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB21@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'll think of somewhere to drop it in, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 June 2013 13:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 I just meant something like "better integration with your VLE where required..." or something but sure, leave it out... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:40 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 OK. Mentioning SCORM is a bit of a double edged sword because I think it confuses people, certainly I come across a variety of interpretations of what it means... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 June 2013 13:39 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 Only thing i can think of would be the scorm improvements. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: I wanted to write some release notes, I haven't finished them yet, but have you got any other things I should include? HTML5 is the big thing, obviously, and a lot of other stuff isn't directly noticeable by end users. Have I missed anything? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jun 10 13:49:34 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:49:34 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB0E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB0E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51B5CB5E.1090809@tor.nl> Well, it certainly behaves more like people expected it to behave before.... magically recording everything! But I agree, most end-users have a wrong expectation of SCORM. Than again, it is the most asked feature about when we try introduce XOT in Dutch Learning institutions and a key decision factor (even if they most of the time will NOT use it after it is installed). The other thing you might want to mention in MathJax. Tom Op 10-6-2013 14:40, Julian Tenney schreef: > OK. Mentioning SCORM is a bit of a double edged sword because I think it confuses people, certainly I come across a variety of interpretations of what it means... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 10 June 2013 13:39 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 > > Only thing i can think of would be the scorm improvements. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > I wanted to write some release notes, I haven't finished them yet, but have you got any other things I should include? HTML5 is the big thing, obviously, and a lot of other stuff isn't directly noticeable by end users. Have I missed anything? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 13:50:43 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:50:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 In-Reply-To: <51B5CB5E.1090809@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB0E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51B5CB5E.1090809@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > The other thing you might want to mention in MathJax. GOOD CALL. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 June 2013 13:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 Well, it certainly behaves more like people expected it to behave before.... magically recording everything! But I agree, most end-users have a wrong expectation of SCORM. Than again, it is the most asked feature about when we try introduce XOT in Dutch Learning institutions and a key decision factor (even if they most of the time will NOT use it after it is installed). The other thing you might want to mention in MathJax. Tom Op 10-6-2013 14:40, Julian Tenney schreef: > OK. Mentioning SCORM is a bit of a double edged sword because I think it confuses people, certainly I come across a variety of interpretations of what it means... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 10 June 2013 13:39 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 > > Only thing i can think of would be the scorm improvements. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > I wanted to write some release notes, I haven't finished them yet, but have you got any other things I should include? HTML5 is the big thing, obviously, and a lot of other stuff isn't directly noticeable by end users. Have I missed anything? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 13:50:48 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:50:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] index.php Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB28@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> When I type text into management php for the front page, it gets truncated, and the layout can screw up, see the two screenshots below [cid:image001.png at 01CE65E1.833C57E0] [cid:image002.png at 01CE65E1.833C57E0] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:40 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 OK. Mentioning SCORM is a bit of a double edged sword because I think it confuses people, certainly I come across a variety of interpretations of what it means... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 June 2013 13:39 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 Only thing i can think of would be the scorm improvements. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: I wanted to write some release notes, I haven't finished them yet, but have you got any other things I should include? HTML5 is the big thing, obviously, and a lot of other stuff isn't directly noticeable by end users. Have I missed anything? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jun 10 14:02:07 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:02:07 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: index.php In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB28@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB28@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51B5CE4F.4030909@tor.nl> Yes, I noticed that, and I fixed that (r876), but it might not have been fixed in your particular install. The problem is that the DB field was only 255 characters long, so change site_text column of the site_details table from varchar(255) to text. Op 10-6-2013 14:50, Julian Tenney schreef: > > When I type text into management php for the front page, it gets > truncated, and the layout can screw up, see the two screenshots below > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 111887 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 130186 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jun 10 14:03:42 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:03:42 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB0E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51B5CEAE.4040407@tor.nl> Everything is (in principle) prepared for Tin Can..., However, so far, I don't understand the mechanism for authenticating to the TinCan API well enough, but I am working on it... Op 10-6-2013 14:50, Smith, John schreef: > Someone here the other day asked me about Xerte and what support for Tin Can Api it supports... > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:40 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 > > OK. Mentioning SCORM is a bit of a double edged sword because I think it confuses people, certainly I come across a variety of interpretations of what it means... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 10 June 2013 13:39 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 > > Only thing i can think of would be the scorm improvements. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > I wanted to write some release notes, I haven't finished them yet, but have you got any other things I should include? HTML5 is the big thing, obviously, and a lot of other stuff isn't directly noticeable by end users. Have I missed anything? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 14:23:45 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:23:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules In-Reply-To: <562874EA-A2F3-4D6D-B60F-9D03DBD740D2@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <686303c5510f532ebb9c566e4afddd765fd4d1a8@webmail.hosting.heartinternet.co.uk> <562874EA-A2F3-4D6D-B60F-9D03DBD740D2@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Yeah I went to upload the code I have done but for some reason it wouldn?t go up? not had a chance to sort that yet either :-\ Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:09 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules I noticed that when I was githubbing On 10 Jun 2013, at 11:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: Cheers, will give it a try? and will crack on with the api? sorry it?s taking so long ? really busy just now? ? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 10:43 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Ah ok lines 823 of edit.php - change save for publish on the button change data_save, to be data_publish
then at line 154 try adding $("#data_publish").val(JSON.stringify(data, null, 2)); That should fix it. I think. Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:13:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Yeah in mine there are 3 buttons, a preview button and then 2x save buttons... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules Errrr, it is supposed to save without previewing.... Let me check On 9 Jun 2013, at 21:31, "Smith, John" > wrote: > Meant to say, I've been using your Decision Tree and it's brilliant but there are 2 save buttons at the bottom and 1 works and 1 doesn't - in fact the one that doesn't ends up wiping the whole LO... > > Not sure what it's purpose is supposed to be or if it's even supposed to be there but thought i'd let you know... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > Sent: 09 June 2013 13:43 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > See new email :) > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > Cc: > > Sent: > Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:48:29 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > I still think the idea of an ?App Store? or more likely an ?Extend? > area is a good one? the plugins could go in there too for example, as > well as themes and the more that end users who don?t want to really > get involved in the really technical stuff can still get involved > means that the Community can still grow? > > > I think Data Visualisation is going to be very important in the future > and Pat?s Simile Timeline creator will be fantastic.., already have > plans for that for a few nursing based things? The DecisionTree is > another one that might even have more potential, especially within > areas where Scenario Based Learning is in use and also just to > evaluate and focus learning where it?s is required? > > > So I?m really excited about these two extensions that Pat has produced > and I?m going to start building some things soon with them? > > > Regards, > > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:23 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ?app store?? > > > Maybe that?s a none-starter, > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 06 June 2013 11:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > Letting end users decide? now there?s a novel idea? > > > Never likely to happen here with our IT dept? > > > Regards, > > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > >> I think the App Store route makes more sense then > For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > > I think the App Store route makes more sense then > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You know the answer to that: we don?t currently have a formal process. > My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make > sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can > mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do > everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or > the benefits other developers will bring? > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip? > > You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too. > > My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core. > > Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful. > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney >> wrote: > I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven?t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don?t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can?t mix and match them. That?s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates. > > Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available ? defaults to ?All? and you can untick ones you don?t want. > > Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere? > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others? > > So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the > core code and becomes part of the install > > If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the > alternative is to build some sort of app store > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney >> wrote: > If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip? > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that. > > Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses? > > The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec? > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > .uk>> > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > .uk>> > Cc: > > Sent: > Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules > > Good Morning everyone, > > > I?m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file. > > > I?ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron?s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ?vote? or ?comment? to a text wall. > > > I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn?t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g ?Yes/Agree?, No/Disagree,Comment/Question. > > > The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you?ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone. > > > There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them. > > > This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ?stimulating question? type of template. > > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > ========================================================== > Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern > Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: > cambridge.serendipity > Email: > thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk > c.uk> | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, > 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, > resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk > > > > > > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > snottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09 > To: For technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Modules > > > Hello, > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile > > > and > > > https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree > > > 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. > Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some > skinning could be quite powerful > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a > fair to middling quality > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 15:10:42 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:10:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB0E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51B5CB5E.1090809@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: TYPOS (Use Find to locate them) Flash temapltes feeatures Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:51 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 > The other thing you might want to mention in MathJax. GOOD CALL. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 June 2013 13:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 Well, it certainly behaves more like people expected it to behave before.... magically recording everything! But I agree, most end-users have a wrong expectation of SCORM. Than again, it is the most asked feature about when we try introduce XOT in Dutch Learning institutions and a key decision factor (even if they most of the time will NOT use it after it is installed). The other thing you might want to mention in MathJax. Tom Op 10-6-2013 14:40, Julian Tenney schreef: > OK. Mentioning SCORM is a bit of a double edged sword because I think it confuses people, certainly I come across a variety of interpretations of what it means... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 10 June 2013 13:39 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 > > Only thing i can think of would be the scorm improvements. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > I wanted to write some release notes, I haven't finished them yet, but have you got any other things I should include? HTML5 is the big thing, obviously, and a lot of other stuff isn't directly noticeable by end users. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jun 10 15:14:43 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:14:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB0E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51B5CB5E.1090809@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hmmm bloody auto-correct... the first one should be FLash (note the capital L)... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:11 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 TYPOS (Use Find to locate them) Flash temapltes feeatures Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:51 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 > The other thing you might want to mention in MathJax. GOOD CALL. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 June 2013 13:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 Well, it certainly behaves more like people expected it to behave before.... magically recording everything! But I agree, most end-users have a wrong expectation of SCORM. Than again, it is the most asked feature about when we try introduce XOT in Dutch Learning institutions and a key decision factor (even if they most of the time will NOT use it after it is installed). The other thing you might want to mention in MathJax. Tom Op 10-6-2013 14:40, Julian Tenney schreef: > OK. Mentioning SCORM is a bit of a double edged sword because I think it confuses people, certainly I come across a variety of interpretations of what it means... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 10 June 2013 13:39 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 > > Only thing i can think of would be the scorm improvements. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > I wanted to write some release notes, I haven't finished them yet, but have you got any other things I should include? HTML5 is the big thing, obviously, and a lot of other stuff isn't directly noticeable by end users. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 11 07:12:09 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:12:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB0E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51B5CB5E.1090809@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CB27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6713CD1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Thanks. I have a real problem with temapltes / tempaltes: it never seems to come off my fingers right. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 June 2013 15:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 Hmmm bloody auto-correct... the first one should be FLash (note the capital L)... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:11 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 TYPOS (Use Find to locate them) Flash temapltes feeatures Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:51 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 > The other thing you might want to mention in MathJax. GOOD CALL. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 June 2013 13:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 Well, it certainly behaves more like people expected it to behave before.... magically recording everything! But I agree, most end-users have a wrong expectation of SCORM. Than again, it is the most asked feature about when we try introduce XOT in Dutch Learning institutions and a key decision factor (even if they most of the time will NOT use it after it is installed). The other thing you might want to mention in MathJax. Tom Op 10-6-2013 14:40, Julian Tenney schreef: > OK. Mentioning SCORM is a bit of a double edged sword because I think it confuses people, certainly I come across a variety of interpretations of what it means... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 10 June 2013 13:39 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_8361 > > Only thing i can think of would be the scorm improvements. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > I wanted to write some release notes, I haven't finished them yet, but have you got any other things I should include? HTML5 is the big thing, obviously, and a lot of other stuff isn't directly noticeable by end users. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:00 PM To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Modularisation bug in properties_template.php John, Can you try this (you're the only other person I know running modules that aren't XOT) website_code/php/properties/ If you go to the properties page for a Simile or Decision tree (maybe site) you'll get an error If you swap for this version, should be no error Pat This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.comMakers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" To:"For Xerte technical developers" Cc: Sent:Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:15:30 +0100 Subject:[Xerte-dev] Re: Modularisation bug in properties_template.php Hmmm? I don?t get any error? tried on DecisionTree, Simile and Site?? ? What kind of error? Console error? I didn?t have console open and tried the various Properties and when I opened console I had a Window Reference error of some sort but I cleared it and now can?t reproduce so not sure if it was even related to the properties bug you are expecting? ? Regards, ? John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF Pat @ Pgogy SENT: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:00 PM TO: For technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Modularisation bug in properties_template.php ? John, Can you try this (you're the only other person I know running modules that aren't XOT) website_code/php/properties/ If you go to the properties page for a Simile or Decision tree (maybe site) you'll get an error If you swap for this version, should be no error Pat ? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.?? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment.? Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:15:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modularisation bug in properties_template.php Hmmm? I don?t get any error? tried on DecisionTree, Simile and Site? What kind of error? Console error? I didn?t have console open and tried the various Properties and when I opened console I had a Window Reference error of some sort but I cleared it and now can?t reproduce so not sure if it was even related to the properties bug you are expecting? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:00 PM To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Modularisation bug in properties_template.php John, Can you try this (you're the only other person I know running modules that aren't XOT) website_code/php/properties/ If you go to the properties page for a Simile or Decision tree (maybe site) you'll get an error If you swap for this version, should be no error Pat This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF Pat @ Pgogy SENT: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:29 PM TO: For Xerte technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modularisation bug in properties_template.php ? it is a PHP warning - maybe your ini is less strict? ? Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com [1] Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ? ----- Original Message ----- FROM: "For Xerte technical developers" ? TO: "For Xerte technical developers" CC: ? SENT: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:15:30 +0100 SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modularisation bug in properties_template.php Hmmm? I don?t get any error? tried on DecisionTree, Simile and Site?? ? What kind of error? Console error? I didn?t have console open and tried the various Properties and when I opened console I had a Window Reference error of some sort but I cleared it and now can?t reproduce so not sure if it was even related to the properties bug you are expecting? ? Regards, ? John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University ? FROM: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [4] [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [5]] ON BEHALF OF Pat @ Pgogy SENT: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:00 PM TO: For technical developers SUBJECT: [Xerte-dev] Modularisation bug in properties_template.php ? John, Can you try this (you're the only other person I know running modules that aren't XOT) website_code/php/properties/ If you go to the properties page for a Simile or Decision tree (maybe site) you'll get an error If you swap for this version, should be no error Pat ? 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The code replaces a function call with something else as the function isn't needed anymore Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality ----- Original Message ----- From: "For Xerte technical developers" > To: "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: Sent: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:38:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modularisation bug in properties_template.php Should I see it with development mode on? Tried that still nothing? Got a BOOM BOOM when I tried to Duplicate though but it still worked, or seemed to? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:29 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modularisation bug in properties_template.php it is a PHP warning - maybe your ini is less strict? 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I?ve been through all the tabs and they all seem to render correctly? > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:49 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modularisation bug in properties_template.php > > curious as to why I get it then..... > > The code replaces a function call with something else as the function isn't needed anymore > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: > > Sent: > Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:38:04 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: Modularisation bug in properties_template.php > > > Should I see it with development mode on? Tried that still nothing? > > > Got a BOOM BOOM when I tried to Duplicate though but it still worked, or seemed to? > > > Regards, > > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:29 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modularisation bug in properties_template.php > > > it is a PHP warning - maybe your ini is less strict? > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "For Xerte technical developers" > > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: > > > Sent: > Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:15:30 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: Modularisation bug in properties_template.php > > Hmmm? 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If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. 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I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason - user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 10:32:21 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:32:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason - user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 10:42:35 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:42:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also... Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it... is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I'll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like "File sent", "onLoad fired" "Returned data:..." or whatever you think would help... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It's done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason - user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 10:45:52 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:45:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also... Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it... is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I'll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like "File sent", "onLoad fired" "Returned data:..." or whatever you think would help... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It's done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason - user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 10:52:40 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:52:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: CS5... will that do? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also... Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it... is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I'll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like "File sent", "onLoad fired" "Returned data:..." or whatever you think would help... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It's done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason - user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 11:00:23 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:00:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBFB9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Try opening /editor/wizard.fla in the Xerte svn You'll need to save back to flash 8, nt sure if you can from cs5..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug CS5... will that do? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also... Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it... is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I'll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like "File sent", "onLoad fired" "Returned data:..." or whatever you think would help... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It's done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason - user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 11:15:57 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:15:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Anyone seen Numbas Message-ID: http://www.ncl.ac.uk/maths/numbas/ Stumbled across this... could we do something to integrate this into Xerte do you think or even "borrow" their maths formatting library as it's pretty neat and does it in real time... all clientside so could be an alternative to MathJax which still requires server access doesn't it? Released under Apache 2.0 - not sure what that means for us though... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:00 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Try opening /editor/wizard.fla in the Xerte svn You'll need to save back to flash 8, nt sure if you can from cs5..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug CS5... will that do? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also... Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it... is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I'll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like "File sent", "onLoad fired" "Returned data:..." or whatever you think would help... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It's done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason - user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Jun 12 11:05:07 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 12:05:07 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBFB9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBFB9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51B847D3.7010005@tor.nl> No you can't... But if we know how to fix it, we'll figure out a way to get it in SVN. Op 12-6-2013 12:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Try opening /editor/wizard.fla in the Xerte svn > > You'll need to save back to flash 8, nt sure if you can from cs5..? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Smith, John > *Sent:* 12 June 2013 10:53 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug > > CS5... will that do? > > Regards, > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug > > Have you got a copy of flash? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Smith, John > *Sent:* 12 June 2013 10:43 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug > > Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has > returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: > > wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", > "POST"); > > is doing since it is still referencing POST also... > > Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot > of time trying to fix it... is a high enough proportion of people > using Safari? > > If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I'll > take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from > Flash? Just stuff like "File sent", "onLoad fired" "Returned data:..." > or whatever you think would help... > > Regards, > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug > > It's done like this: > > if(!xerte){ > > if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ > > var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); > > var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); > > send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; > > send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; > > send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX > file or not? > > send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; > > send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); > > results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ > > wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); > > wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); > > wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", > "POST"); > > } > > } > > }else{ > > The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Smith, John > *Sent:* 12 June 2013 10:23 > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug > > Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the > wizard post the data to a _blank target? > > Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden > _i_frame or new window? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > > Dave Burnett > wrote: > > > What's the target? > > "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by > first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to > that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason -- > user740521 Apr 5 at > 20:41 > " > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 > CC: graham at editeur.org > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug > > Hi, > > Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? > > This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it > was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... > and ii've been able to reproduce it here... > > Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari > the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to > write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the > Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... > > If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears > so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little > magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in > both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file > is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases > as if the data is being sent.... > > Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to > upload.php in Safari? > > Regards, > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > *From:*Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] > *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM > *To:* Smith, John > *Subject:* Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) > > Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided > to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance > (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). > > Graham > > Graham Bell > > EDItEUR > > Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 > > Mob: +44 7887 754958 > > EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in > England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, > London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org > > On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: > > Hi Graham, > > I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using > Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure > why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? > > Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? > > ?Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" > > ?Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector > > Regards, > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > *From:*Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] > *Sent:*Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM > *To:*Smith, John > *Subject:*Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) > > Hi John > > I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue > occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. > > Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example > the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it > opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG > or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window > opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, > and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the > magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. > > When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that > the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but > clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it > gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can > preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The > screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector > icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. > > Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, > or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT > be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the > image inspector itself. > > Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and > greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be > run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess > before you investigate further, you should try it out on current > Safari on Mountain Lion. > > Regards > > Graham > > Graham Bell > > EDItEUR > > Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 > > Mob: +44 7887 754958 > > EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in > England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, > London N7 9DP, UK. Website:http://www.editeur.org > > On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: > > Hi Graham, > > Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I > sent it back to the list... > > I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't > noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. > > Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the > media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that > doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? > What happens once you've selected the file? > > I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash > bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be > easy to implement a fix for Safari. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Alistair McNaught > wrote: > > > A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO > --http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 > > He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. > > Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? > > A > > From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] > Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 > To: Alistair McNaught > Subject: Xerte > > Hi Alistair > > Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the > upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- > but does work in Chrome on my Mac. > > Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you > think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was > originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. > > Graham > > > > > > > Graham Bell > EDItEUR > > Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 > Mob: +44 7887 754958 > > EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in > England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, > London N7 9DP, UK. Website: > http://www.editeur.org > > > > > > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the > intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not > disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any > action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited > and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone > astray before deleting it. 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URL: From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 11:34:14 2013 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:34:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: gap fill question - version difference... In-Reply-To: <0FB558FA-E88C-4EA7-A073-B0B2D8FAE03E@mitchellmedia.co.uk> References: <013601ce5d5b$b90bf9e0$2b23eda0$@co.uk> <0FB558FA-E88C-4EA7-A073-B0B2D8FAE03E@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: I've changed this so 'Show Hint' is now an optional property. By default the hint will work as before. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 30 May 2013 21:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: gap fill question - version difference... Hi John Not sure when this changed but no it applies whether flash or html5 in version 2. It's probably not something that is a problem for the majority but would seem like a good idea if it were optional Cheers Ron Sent from my iPhone On 30 May 2013, at 21:23, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi Ron, > > Does the "old version" mean in the flash player and "version 2" mean the html5 player? Or is this a change in the creation process in the wizard that has changed between v1.9 and v2.0? > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 30 May 2013 18:32 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] gap fill question - version difference... > > Hi all > I had the following question posed regarding the gap fill page type? > > "on the old version it allows me to add anything in the gaps if I put > some dummy text and don?t give feedback (this is what I want) On version 2 as soon as I start putting alternative answer or text it shows a hint? This I don?t want. > Why is there this difference?" > > So obviously I explained that this is how the new version has been coded but I can see the point and wonder if the hints could/should be an optional property to enable/disable? > > Ron > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Jun 12 11:39:45 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 06:39:45 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Maybe just substitute _self for _blank and see if that fixes it? From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:52:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug CS5? will that do? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also? Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it? is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I?ll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like ?File sent?, ?onLoad fired? ?Returned data:?? or whatever you think would help? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It?s done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason ? user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn?t appear to be? and ii?ve been able to reproduce it here? Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk? If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear? If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn?t appear to be POSTed to? if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser? strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent?. Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn?t appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I?ve had a look into this and I can?t replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn?t. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? ? Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" ? Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO ? http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 11:41:34 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:41:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: <51B847D3.7010005@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBF96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DBFB9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51B847D3.7010005@tor.nl> Message-ID: That's ok, If I can get an edited wizard to run then I can let someone know what I've changed... The only problem I foresee with the block of code Julian sent me is very similar to this block of code saveFile(); wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); Which appears to save the LO and it does work... so why would that be? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:05 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug No you can't... But if we know how to fix it, we'll figure out a way to get it in SVN. Op 12-6-2013 12:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Try opening /editor/wizard.fla in the Xerte svn You'll need to save back to flash 8, nt sure if you can from cs5..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug CS5... will that do? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also... Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it... is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I'll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like "File sent", "onLoad fired" "Returned data:..." or whatever you think would help... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It's done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason - user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jun 12 11:44:45 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:44:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do you need to set an encoding type in the flash? On 11 Jun 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? > > This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn?t appear to be? and ii?ve been able to reproduce it here? > > Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk? If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear? > > If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn?t appear to be POSTed to? if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser? strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent?. > > Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn?t appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM > To: Smith, John > Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) > > Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). > > Graham > > > Graham Bell > EDItEUR > > Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 > Mob: +44 7887 754958 > > EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org > > > > > > On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: > > > Hi Graham, > > I?ve had a look into this and I can?t replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn?t. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? > > Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? > > ? Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" > ? Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM > To: Smith, John > Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) > > Hi John > > I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. > > Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. > > When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. > > Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. > > Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. > > > Regards > Graham > > > Graham Bell > EDItEUR > > Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 > Mob: +44 7887 754958 > > EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org > > > > > > > On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: > > > > Hi Graham, > > Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... > > I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. > > Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? > > I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Alistair McNaught wrote: > > > A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO ? http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 > > He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. > > Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? > > A > > From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] > Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 > To: Alistair McNaught > Subject: Xerte > > Hi Alistair > > Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. > > Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. > > Graham > > > > > > > Graham Bell > EDItEUR > > Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 > Mob: +44 7887 754958 > > EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org > > > > > > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 11:53:14 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:53:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not sure but I found the correct section of code? listener.onSelect = function(file:FileReference):Void { //create a modal window this.progWin = PopUpManager.createPopUp(wizard, mx.containers.Window, true, {_x:325, _y:200, closeButton:false, title:'File Upload'}); this.progWin.createClassObject(ProgressBar, 'prgBar', 20, {_x:25, _y:40, mode:'manual', minimum:0, maximum:100}); this.progWin.createClassObject(Button, 'btnCancel', 21, {_x:50, _y: 80, label:wizard.languageData.importMedia[0].btncancel}); this.click = function(evt){ this.fileRef.cancel(); this.progWin.deletePopUp(); } this.progWin.btnCancel.addEventListener('click', this); this.progWin.setSize(200,130); url = _root.upload_path + _root.rlovariable; //handle sesion ins firefox and safari for security var id = ExternalInterface.call('getSessionID'); file.upload(url + '&' + id); }; So the file upload is handled differently from the save file routine? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:45 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Do you need to set an encoding type in the flash? On 11 Jun 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn?t appear to be? and ii?ve been able to reproduce it here? Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk? If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear? If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn?t appear to be POSTed to? if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser? strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent?. Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn?t appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I?ve had a look into this and I can?t replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn?t. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? ? Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" ? Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO ? http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jun 12 11:46:39 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:46:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not all of XOT is gpl On 12 Jun 2013, at 11:15, "Smith, John" wrote: > http://www.ncl.ac.uk/maths/numbas/ > > Stumbled across this? could we do something to integrate this into Xerte do you think or even ?borrow? their maths formatting library as it?s pretty neat and does it in real time? all clientside so could be an alternative to MathJax which still requires server access doesn?t it? > > Released under Apache 2.0 ? not sure what that means for us though? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:00 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug > > Try opening /editor/wizard.fla in the Xerte svn > > You?ll need to save back to flash 8, nt sure if you can from cs5..? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 June 2013 10:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug > > CS5? will that do? > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug > > Have you got a copy of flash? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug > > Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: > > wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); > > is doing since it is still referencing POST also? > > Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it? is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? > > If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I?ll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like ?File sent?, ?onLoad fired? ?Returned data:?? or whatever you think would help? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug > > It?s done like this: > > if(!xerte){ > if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ > var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); > var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); > send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; > send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; > send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? > send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; > send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); > > results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ > > wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); > wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); > > wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); > > } > > } > }else{ > > The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug > > > Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? > > Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Dave Burnett wrote: > > > What's the target? > > "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason ? user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" > > > > > > > > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 > CC: graham at editeur.org > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug > > Hi, > > Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? > > This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn?t appear to be? and ii?ve been able to reproduce it here? > > Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk? If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear? > > If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn?t appear to be POSTed to? if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser? strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent?. > > Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn?t appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM > To: Smith, John > Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) > > Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). > > Graham > > > Graham Bell > EDItEUR > > Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 > Mob: +44 7887 754958 > > EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org > > > > > > On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: > > > Hi Graham, > > I?ve had a look into this and I can?t replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn?t. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? > > Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? > > ? Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" > ? Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM > To: Smith, John > Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) > > Hi John > > I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. > > Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. > > When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. > > Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. > > Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. > > > Regards > Graham > > > Graham Bell > EDItEUR > > Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 > Mob: +44 7887 754958 > > EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org > > > > > > On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: > > > Hi Graham, > > Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... > > I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. > > Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? > > I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Alistair McNaught wrote: > > > A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO ? http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 > > He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. > > Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? > > A > > From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] > Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 > To: Alistair McNaught > Subject: Xerte > > Hi Alistair > > Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 12:14:27 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 12:14:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I know and I?ve used whole files like the Wordpress plugins file? I?m thinking we can use it or some of it ? Is it ok as long as we keep some acknowledgment in? I?m clueless when it comes to all these license types? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:47 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas Not all of XOT is gpl On 12 Jun 2013, at 11:15, "Smith, John" > wrote: http://www.ncl.ac.uk/maths/numbas/ Stumbled across this? could we do something to integrate this into Xerte do you think or even ?borrow? their maths formatting library as it?s pretty neat and does it in real time? all clientside so could be an alternative to MathJax which still requires server access doesn?t it? Released under Apache 2.0 ? not sure what that means for us though? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:00 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Try opening /editor/wizard.fla in the Xerte svn You?ll need to save back to flash 8, nt sure if you can from cs5..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug CS5? will that do? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also? Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it? is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I?ll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like ?File sent?, ?onLoad fired? ?Returned data:?? or whatever you think would help? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It?s done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason ? user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn?t appear to be? and ii?ve been able to reproduce it here? Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk? If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear? If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn?t appear to be POSTed to? if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser? strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent?. Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn?t appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I?ve had a look into this and I can?t replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn?t. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? ? Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" ? Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO ? http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 13:15:02 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:15:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DC0F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> ?The Apache Software Foundation and the Free Software Foundation both agree that the Apache License 2.0 is a free software license, compatible with version 3 of the GNU General Public License (GPL),[8] meaning that code under GPL version 3 and Apache License 2.0 can be combined so long the resulting software is licensed under the GPL version 3.[9]? Previously when we mulled this over (whether to build on another component that we weren?t sure we could redistribute) we decided not to (JWPLayer). The problem isn?t us interpreting the licenses, it?s people asking us questions we can?t answer about the licenses, which then becomes problematic for those people adopting toolkits. It?s good that we can clearly and resoundingly say ?Yes. Do whatever you want?. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas I know and I?ve used whole files like the Wordpress plugins file? I?m thinking we can use it or some of it ? Is it ok as long as we keep some acknowledgment in? I?m clueless when it comes to all these license types? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:47 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas Not all of XOT is gpl On 12 Jun 2013, at 11:15, "Smith, John" > wrote: http://www.ncl.ac.uk/maths/numbas/ Stumbled across this? could we do something to integrate this into Xerte do you think or even ?borrow? their maths formatting library as it?s pretty neat and does it in real time? all clientside so could be an alternative to MathJax which still requires server access doesn?t it? Released under Apache 2.0 ? not sure what that means for us though? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:00 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Try opening /editor/wizard.fla in the Xerte svn You?ll need to save back to flash 8, nt sure if you can from cs5..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug CS5? will that do? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also? Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it? is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I?ll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like ?File sent?, ?onLoad fired? ?Returned data:?? or whatever you think would help? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It?s done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason ? user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn?t appear to be? and ii?ve been able to reproduce it here? Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk? If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear? If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn?t appear to be POSTed to? if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser? strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent?. Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn?t appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I?ve had a look into this and I can?t replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn?t. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? ? Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" ? Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO ? http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 13:16:58 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:16:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DC0F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Don?t think so From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 12 June 2013 11:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Do you need to set an encoding type in the flash? On 11 Jun 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn?t appear to be? and ii?ve been able to reproduce it here? Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk? If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear? If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn?t appear to be POSTed to? if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser? strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent?. Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn?t appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I?ve had a look into this and I can?t replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn?t. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? ? Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" ? Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO ? http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 13:19:42 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:19:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DC0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'm not interested in seeing this built into Toolkits. You can embed one in the other and have what you want without having to do the technical work. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 11:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Anyone seen Numbas http://www.ncl.ac.uk/maths/numbas/ Stumbled across this... could we do something to integrate this into Xerte do you think or even "borrow" their maths formatting library as it's pretty neat and does it in real time... all clientside so could be an alternative to MathJax which still requires server access doesn't it? Released under Apache 2.0 - not sure what that means for us though... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:00 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Try opening /editor/wizard.fla in the Xerte svn You'll need to save back to flash 8, nt sure if you can from cs5..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug CS5... will that do? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also... Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it... is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I'll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like "File sent", "onLoad fired" "Returned data:..." or whatever you think would help... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It's done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason - user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 13:25:31 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:25:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DC0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DC0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yeah I agree and it could be hosted side by side on the same server if someone wished... What about the live maths transformations? Worth exploring or is MathJax the one, although doesn't it still require some server communication which might not be possible in some environments? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:20 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas I'm not interested in seeing this built into Toolkits. You can embed one in the other and have what you want without having to do the technical work. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 11:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Anyone seen Numbas http://www.ncl.ac.uk/maths/numbas/ Stumbled across this... could we do something to integrate this into Xerte do you think or even "borrow" their maths formatting library as it's pretty neat and does it in real time... all clientside so could be an alternative to MathJax which still requires server access doesn't it? Released under Apache 2.0 - not sure what that means for us though... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:00 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Try opening /editor/wizard.fla in the Xerte svn You'll need to save back to flash 8, nt sure if you can from cs5..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug CS5... will that do? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also... Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it... is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I'll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like "File sent", "onLoad fired" "Returned data:..." or whatever you think would help... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It's done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason - user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 12 13:33:08 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:33:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DC0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DC11E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'd be keen to build that in, but I'm not sure it even could function away from the internet? Tom might know more? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 13:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas Yeah I agree and it could be hosted side by side on the same server if someone wished... What about the live maths transformations? Worth exploring or is MathJax the one, although doesn't it still require some server communication which might not be possible in some environments? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:20 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas I'm not interested in seeing this built into Toolkits. You can embed one in the other and have what you want without having to do the technical work. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 11:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Anyone seen Numbas http://www.ncl.ac.uk/maths/numbas/ Stumbled across this... could we do something to integrate this into Xerte do you think or even "borrow" their maths formatting library as it's pretty neat and does it in real time... all clientside so could be an alternative to MathJax which still requires server access doesn't it? Released under Apache 2.0 - not sure what that means for us though... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:00 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Try opening /editor/wizard.fla in the Xerte svn You'll need to save back to flash 8, nt sure if you can from cs5..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug CS5... will that do? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also... Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it... is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I'll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like "File sent", "onLoad fired" "Returned data:..." or whatever you think would help... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It's done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett > wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason - user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bug Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Jun 12 13:58:04 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 08:58:04 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DC11E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DC0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C672DC11E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: >not sure it even could function away from the internet We need a meme for that. Netsitic?Netengined? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:33:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas I?d be keen to build that in, but I?m not sure it even could function away from the internet? Tom might know more? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 13:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas Yeah I agree and it could be hosted side by side on the same server if someone wished? What about the live maths transformations? Worth exploring or is MathJax the one, although doesn?t it still require some server communication which might not be possible in some environments? Regards, John SmithLearning TechnologistSchool of Health & Life SciencesGlasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:20 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Anyone seen Numbas I?m not interested in seeing this built into Toolkits. You can embed one in the other and have what you want without having to do the technical work. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 11:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Anyone seen Numbas http://www.ncl.ac.uk/maths/numbas/ Stumbled across this? could we do something to integrate this into Xerte do you think or even ?borrow? their maths formatting library as it?s pretty neat and does it in real time? all clientside so could be an alternative to MathJax which still requires server access doesn?t it? Released under Apache 2.0 ? not sure what that means for us though? Regards, John SmithLearning TechnologistSchool of Health & Life SciencesGlasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:00 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Try opening /editor/wizard.fla in the Xerte svn You?ll need to save back to flash 8, nt sure if you can from cs5..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug CS5? will that do? Regards, John SmithLearning TechnologistSchool of Health & Life SciencesGlasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:46 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Have you got a copy of flash? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Looks to me like that _blank is being accessed after upload.php has returned a result (onLoad) but then not sure what the line: wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); is doing since it is still referencing POST also? Not really sure where we go with this or whether we even spend a lot of time trying to fix it? is a high enough proportion of people using Safari? If you have time and want to still in a few debug statements then I?ll take another look at it. Can you send data to the console easily from Flash? Just stuff like ?File sent?, ?onLoad fired? ?Returned data:?? or whatever you think would help? Regards, John SmithLearning TechnologistSchool of Health & Life SciencesGlasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug It?s done like this: if(!xerte){ if(_root.read_and_write=="true"){ var result_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); var send_lv:LoadVars = new LoadVars(); send_lv.filedata = wizard.xmlStr; send_lv.filename = wizard.fileName; send_lv.fileupdate = update; //update the play_XXX file or not? send_lv.filesize = wizard.xmlStr.length; send_lv.sendAndLoad(_root.savepath, result_lv, "POST"); results_lv.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){ wizard.createEmptyMovieClip('getURLHelper', 9999); wizard.getURLHelper.data = KOData.format(); wizard.getURLHelper.getURL(wizard.nfoObject.wizard.runtime, "_blank", "POST"); } } }else{ The _blank is for the preview window (I think?) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 June 2013 10:23 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Hmm interesting. Anyone know if this is the likely cause? Does the wizard post the data to a _blank target? Can this easily be changed to post somewhere else, possibly a hidden iframe or new window? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett wrote: What's the target? "no, everything works in other browsers. I just fixed this though by first opening a window with javascript and then submitting the form to that window. safari doesn't like the _blank for some reason ? user740521 Apr 5 at 20:41" From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:48:33 +0100 CC: graham at editeur.org Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac Safari browser bugHi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn?t appear to be? and ii?ve been able to reproduce it here? Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk? If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear? If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn?t appear to be POSTed to? if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser? strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent?. Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn?t appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John SmithLearning TechnologistSchool of Health & Life SciencesGlasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham BellEDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I?ve had a look into this and I can?t replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn?t. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? ? Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar"? Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John SmithLearning TechnologistSchool of Health & Life SciencesGlasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. RegardsGraham Graham BellEDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO ? http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. 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So these modules are now click to install. > > The template lists are brought from Github via the API, so we don't need to host anything. > > At the moment it is just modules, but in theory it could do plugins, themes, and other things - but they don't exist yet? > > Pat > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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We now have a nice system in place to rebuild the installer zips automatically. Should we try something similar for the WordPress plugin? Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Thu Jun 13 08:41:38 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:41:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How is the Wordpress Plugin created In-Reply-To: <51B96658.2090008@tor.nl> References: <51B96658.2090008@tor.nl> Message-ID: I am not sure it's that similar. The Wordpress plugin uses its own wizard, upload, save and file exists scripts. It also has a cut down rlt file. The wizard needs rewriting before anything else happens On 13 Jun 2013, at 07:27, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Pat, > > How is the WordPress plugin created? We now have a nice system in place to rebuild the installer zips automatically. Should we try something similar for the WordPress plugin? > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 12 June 2013 19:32 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: App Store added to SVN Wot no feedback? On 9 Jun 2013, at 13:48, "Pat @ Pgogy" > wrote: Hello, If you update to the most recent SVN you'll find some files called extend have been added. If you visit extend.php you'll then see a list of templates and you can then click to install and then click to activate. So these modules are now click to install. The template lists are brought from Github via the API, so we don't need to host anything. At the moment it is just modules, but in theory it could do plugins, themes, and other things - but they don't exist yet? Pat Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Although do you want it all removed or just the navigation bit of it? There?s other stuff that goes in the footerBlock too e.g. narration bar if you?ve added this to a page and fill screen button. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Sent: 10 May 2013 15:02 To: For technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Single Page LOs Hello, Would it be possible to have a drop down in the display option to hide "x_footerBlock" as I'd like to make some single page LOs I can break it myself, but thought others might find it useful Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 14 Jun 2013, at 11:12, Fay Cross wrote: > Just done something Pat asked for last month ? if there?s only 1 page in a project then the navigation buttons will no longer appear > > From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com [mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > Sent: 10 May 2013 15:37 > To: Fay Cross > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Single Page LOs > > > Ah ok, best to leave it as conditional then? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "Fay Cross" > > To: > "For Xerte technical developers" > Cc: > > Sent: > Fri, 10 May 2013 15:05:55 +0100 > Subject: > [Xerte-dev] Re: Single Page LOs > > > I can just hide it if there?s only one page ? no need to add an extra option. Although do you want it all removed or just the navigation bit of it? There?s other stuff that goes in the footerBlock too e.g. narration bar if you?ve added this to a page and fill screen button. > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte at pgogywebstuff.com > Sent: 10 May 2013 15:02 > To: For technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Single Page LOs > > > Hello, > > Would it be possible to have a drop down in the display option to hide "x_footerBlock" > > as I'd like to make some single page LOs > > I can break it myself, but thought others might find it useful > > Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com > Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Something has changed re: the Flash player, and local playback, does anyone know what? -----Original Message----- From: Tenney Julian Sent: 14 June 2013 09:56 To: 'A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits' Subject: RE: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jun 2013 to 10 Jun 2013 (#2013-62) Can you send me a link? -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 13 June 2013 22:52 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jun 2013 to 10 Jun 2013 (#2013-62) Hi Julian In new window navigator a new window does not open to display the SWF file page. With the YouTube page it?s a blank page. I can share with you on dropbox if that?s helpful? Cheers Barbara -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system Sent: 11 June 2013 00:00 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jun 2013 to 10 Jun 2013 (#2013-62) There is 1 message totaling 2028 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 6 Jun 2013 to 7 Jun 2013 (#2013-60) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:37:45 +0100 From: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 6 Jun 2013 to 7 Jun 2013 (#2013-60) Are you getting a new window? What exactly happens? What does it say here: [cid:image001.png at 01CE65AD.65AD8020] -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 08 June 2013 11:31 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 6 Jun 2013 to 7 Jun 2013 (#2013-60) Hi Julian First thing I checked it is there in the zip Cheers barbara -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system Sent: 08 June 2013 00:01 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 6 Jun 2013 to 7 Jun 2013 (#2013-60) There is 1 message totaling 83 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Another swf query and maths ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 07:49:08 +0100 From: Julian Tenney > Subject: Re: Another swf query and maths Put the swf file in the media folder in the zip. You'll probably find it hasn't exported? -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 06 June 2013 17:40 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Another swf query and maths Hi I am sure this will be a straight forward question for some-one! I have created a Xerte activity which has incorporated a SWf file (in the new window navigator) works fine. When I export and try and view via the index no swf, I am tried doing what I have done with the images which change the link so it links just to media/myfile.swf but of course the link is supposed to be a direct URL, no joy , does this mean I cant play swf files unless I have imported the zipped file to another installation instead of just uploading to Moodle as a learning object. Also; same problem exists with my page with has Youtube link. While on my installation works file but does not display anything on the page when exported and accessed purely via the index. My installation is uptodate on LearningApps. Anyone with any ideas? I am also plodding along with my maths activities - getting some great ideas on Xerte, but could I put a plea for next time there is an update could some-thing be done regarding the LATEX issue of the disappearing \\ as it getting very time consuming having to re-insert them every-time I need to edit (unless some-one has found an answer??) Cheers Barbara -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system Sent: 31 May 2013 00:03 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 24 May 2013 to 30 May 2013 (#2013-57) There is 1 message totaling 129 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Flipping the classroom with Xerte Toolkits - Friday 31st May at 13:00 (London time) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 09:13:03 +0000 From: Alistair McNaught > Subject: Flipping the classroom with Xerte Toolkits - Friday 31st May at 13:00 (London time) Join us for a free online session on using Xerte Toolkits to "Flip the Classroom" - using lecture and lesson time in a different way. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Nikodem.Miranowicz at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 17 14:55:46 2013 From: Nikodem.Miranowicz at nottingham.ac.uk (Nikodem Miranowicz) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:55:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Nikodem In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C67398DDD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C67398DDD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <6731C96EB320BD49B490F66C783606512DE8EC1AED@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hi all, Nikodem here. Glad to join the team. Cheers, Nikodem From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 17 June 2013 14:54 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Nikodem Hi, Fay will be leaving us on Friday for her maternity leave - I'm sure we'll return to that topic later in the week - but in the meantime, can I introduce you to Nikodem? Nikodem is going to be covering Fay's work during her leave for a couple of days a week, so please say 'Hi'! Nikodem will continue Fay's work on the front end stuff, Thanks, Julian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:53:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Nikodem Hi, Fay will be leaving us on Friday for her maternity leave ? I?m sure we?ll return to that topic later in the week - but in the meantime, can I introduce you to Nikodem? Nikodem is going to be covering Fay?s work during her leave for a couple of days a week, so please say ?Hi?! Nikodem will continue Fay?s work on the front end stuff, Thanks, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key. So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them. //press any key Could someone confirm that? I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key.So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them.//press any key Could someone confirm that?I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Cheers. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It works correctly in my simple example the first time (it doesn't find the scr with 'press any key' in unless scripts is checked), but then seems to get a bit screwed up? The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key. So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them. //press any key Could someone confirm that? I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jun 17 15:41:48 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:41:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ok I?ve tracked the problem with this? seems the network debug tool not showing upload.php firing was a red herring? it only shows in Mac Chrome but not in either Firefox or Safari? The problem with Safari is simply the flash cookie bug so simply testing for firefox or safari and restarting the session in upload (now that we know how) seems to fix it? will commit once I?ve tested that Moodle auth works in Safari also? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:45 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Do you need to set an encoding type in the flash? On 11 Jun 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn?t appear to be? and ii?ve been able to reproduce it here? Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk? If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear? If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn?t appear to be POSTed to? if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser? strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent?. Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn?t appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I?ve had a look into this and I can?t replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn?t. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? ? Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" ? Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO ? http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. The LO was originally written as a single HTML5 page, so might well be suited. Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK.Cheers. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionIt works correctly in my simple example the first time (it doesn?t find the scr with ?press any key? in unless scripts is checked), but then seems to get a bit screwed up? The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key.So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them.//press any key Could someone confirm that?I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Mine blows up on search 1 I suspect it's some anomaly in the code produced by the converter, though IE and Chrome both say it's well-formed (or at least don't throw any errors). Not worth worrying about. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:42:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It looks like the index isn't getting reset between searches. I'm sure I wrote it, but it uses regular expressions, so I'm sure I didn't... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK. Cheers. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It works correctly in my simple example the first time (it doesn't find the scr with 'press any key' in unless scripts is checked), but then seems to get a bit screwed up? The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key. So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them. //press any key Could someone confirm that? I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:41:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Ok I?ve tracked the problem with this? seems the network debug tool not showing upload.php firing was a red herring? it only shows in Mac Chrome but not in either Firefox or Safari? The problem with Safari is simply the flash cookie bug so simply testing for firefox or safari and restarting the session in upload (now that we know how) seems to fix it? will commit once I?ve tested that Moodle auth works in Safari also? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:45 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Do you need to set an encoding type in the flash? On 11 Jun 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" wrote: Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn?t appear to be? and ii?ve been able to reproduce it here? Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk? If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear? If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn?t appear to be POSTed to? if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser? strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent?. Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn?t appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I?ve had a look into this and I can?t replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn?t. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? ? Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" ? Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO ? http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Mine blows up on search 1 I suspect it's some anomaly in the code produced by the converter, though IE and Chrome both say it's well-formed (or at least don't throw any errors). Not worth worrying about. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:42:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionIt looks like the index isn?t getting reset between searches. I?m sure I wrote it, but it uses regular expressions, so I?m sure I didn?t? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK.Cheers. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionIt works correctly in my simple example the first time (it doesn?t find the scr with ?press any key? in unless scripts is checked), but then seems to get a bit screwed up? The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key.So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them.//press any key Could someone confirm that?I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. 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In FireFox it doesn't and that means that the upload.php session check fails... seems Mac Safari has the same issue but I got sidetracked by the post to upload.php not showing in Network traffic whilst the file_exists.php does - Wizard uses different method for each which seems to be the reason although Chrome shows both in network traffic!?! Anyways... it's fixed now (will be in trunk soon)! Thanks for your help Dave! Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:49 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Is a new session what happens when a new window is opened? Maybe why creating a new target= fixes it? ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:41:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Ok I've tracked the problem with this... seems the network debug tool not showing upload.php firing was a red herring... it only shows in Mac Chrome but not in either Firefox or Safari... The problem with Safari is simply the flash cookie bug so simply testing for firefox or safari and restarting the session in upload (now that we know how) seems to fix it... will commit once I've tested that Moodle auth works in Safari also... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:45 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug Do you need to set an encoding type in the flash? On 11 Jun 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: Hi, Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac? This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn't appear to be... and ii've been able to reproduce it here... Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data to server disk... If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear... If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn't appear to be POSTed to... if you press the little magnifying glass to preview the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser... strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent.... Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn't appear to POST to upload.php in Safari? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment). Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 31 May 2013, at 07:15, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, I've had a look into this and I can't replicate it. I too am using Version 5.1.9 (6534.59.8) and it works as expected, not really sure why yours wouldn't. Are you using v2.0 of XOT or an older version? Also, do you see any error messages in the console when you do this? * Preferences --> Advanced, Check "Show develop in menu bar" * Menu-->Develop --> Show Web Inspector Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:15 PM To: Smith, John Subject: Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report) Hi John I can easily replicate if I have to, but as I remember, the issue occurred when I tried to add an image to any of the pages. Using any page template that allows you to add an image (for example the 'advanced image' page template, you click the [...] button and it opens a window that allows you to select an image file (typically JPEG or PNG). When you choose the file, a small upload progress window opens, followed by a window that says 'Success'. You can dismiss this, and the filename of the image is displayed. You can then use the magnifier icon (image inspector) to preview the image. When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you must select media before you can preview it'. Essentially, the image has not been uploaded. The screenshot attached shows the result of clicking the Image Inspector icon with an image that has been 'uploaded'. Safari CAN preview images that have been uploaded previously on a PC, or via another Mac browser, and images 'uploaded' with Safari CANNOT be previewed with another browser, so the problem is not with the image inspector itself. Now it has to be admitted that v5.1.9 of Safari is not the 'latest and greatest', but it's still reasonably common as the latest that can be run on the previous iteration of Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). I guess before you investigate further, you should try it out on current Safari on Mountain Lion. Regards Graham Graham Bell EDItEUR Tel: +44 20 7503 6418 Mob: +44 7887 754958 EDItEUR Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no 2994705. Registered Office: United House, North Road, London N7 9DP, UK. Website: http://www.editeur.org On 17 May 2013, at 21:59, Smith, John wrote: Hi Graham, Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list... I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently. Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file? I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Alistair McNaught > wrote: A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO - http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281 He wanted to report back an issue with Safari on a Mac. Highlighted below. Any other Mac/Safari users experienced this? A From: Graham Bell [mailto:graham at editeur.org] Sent: 12 May 2013 16:19 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte Hi Alistair Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac. Now I've finished off the LO on metadata (let me know what you think!), I might have a go with the Toolkits tool. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 17 16:04:11 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:04:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function In-Reply-To: References: , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C67398E23@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C67398E34@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C67398E42@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C67398E69@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Have you got a copy of Flash? There's not much code in there if you want to tweak it. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Yes, you can. But you then have to restart Xerte, taking care not to save it on exit. ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:47:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK. You can 'find' in other tools though... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Mine blows up on search 1 I suspect it's some anomaly in the code produced by the converter, though IE and Chrome both say it's well-formed (or at least don't throw any errors). Not worth worrying about. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:42:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It looks like the index isn't getting reset between searches. I'm sure I wrote it, but it uses regular expressions, so I'm sure I didn't... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK. Cheers. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It works correctly in my simple example the first time (it doesn't find the scr with 'press any key' in unless scripts is checked), but then seems to get a bit screwed up? The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key. So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them. //press any key Could someone confirm that? I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Not worth chasing.Desktop is dead!;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:04:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Have you got a copy of Flash? There?s not much code in there if you want to tweak it. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Yes, you can.But you then have to restart Xerte, taking care not to save it on exit.;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:47:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionOK. You can ?find? in other tools though? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Mine blows up on search 1 I suspect it's some anomaly in the code produced by the converter, though IE and Chrome both say it's well-formed (or at least don't throw any errors). Not worth worrying about. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:42:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionIt looks like the index isn?t getting reset between searches. I?m sure I wrote it, but it uses regular expressions, so I?m sure I didn?t? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK.Cheers. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionIt works correctly in my simple example the first time (it doesn?t find the scr with ?press any key? in unless scripts is checked), but then seems to get a bit screwed up? The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key.So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them.//press any key Could someone confirm that?I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 17 16:18:26 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:18:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function In-Reply-To: References: , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C67398E23@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C67398E34@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C67398E42@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C67398E69@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C67398E88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Not worth chasing. Desktop is dead! I just wondered - if it's an easy fix, then why not do it. There's something funny in the find command because - Enter 'key' - Hit search - It finds the icons - matching case, which might be a problem - To reset it you seem to have to press search twice, then it does run again. But these might not be the problems you have. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 16:13 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It's not just the index problem. My converted stuff blows up right away, so it's something in the format (though it is acceptable xml). Not worth chasing. Desktop is dead! ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:04:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Have you got a copy of Flash? There's not much code in there if you want to tweak it. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Yes, you can. But you then have to restart Xerte, taking care not to save it on exit. ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:47:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK. You can 'find' in other tools though... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Mine blows up on search 1 I suspect it's some anomaly in the code produced by the converter, though IE and Chrome both say it's well-formed (or at least don't throw any errors). Not worth worrying about. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:42:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It looks like the index isn't getting reset between searches. I'm sure I wrote it, but it uses regular expressions, so I'm sure I didn't... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK. Cheers. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It works correctly in my simple example the first time (it doesn't find the scr with 'press any key' in unless scripts is checked), but then seems to get a bit screwed up? The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key. So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them. //press any key Could someone confirm that? I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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I just wondered ? if it?s an easy fix, then why not do it. There?s something funny in the find command because - Enter ?key?- Hit search- It finds the icons ? matching case, which might be a problem- To reset it you seem to have to press search twice, then it does run again. But these might not be the problems you have. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 16:13 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It's not just the index problem.My converted stuff blows up right away, so it's something in the format (though it is acceptable xml). Not worth chasing.Desktop is dead!;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:04:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionHave you got a copy of Flash? There?s not much code in there if you want to tweak it. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Yes, you can.But you then have to restart Xerte, taking care not to save it on exit.;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:47:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionOK. You can ?find? in other tools though? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Mine blows up on search 1 I suspect it's some anomaly in the code produced by the converter, though IE and Chrome both say it's well-formed (or at least don't throw any errors). Not worth worrying about. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:42:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionIt looks like the index isn?t getting reset between searches. I?m sure I wrote it, but it uses regular expressions, so I?m sure I didn?t? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK.Cheers. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionIt works correctly in my simple example the first time (it doesn?t find the scr with ?press any key? in unless scripts is checked), but then seems to get a bit screwed up? The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key.So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them.//press any key Could someone confirm that?I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 16:22 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It's like the Align bug in AW. You just get used to hitting Save in preparation for the crash. :-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:18:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Not worth chasing. Desktop is dead! I just wondered - if it's an easy fix, then why not do it. There's something funny in the find command because - Enter 'key' - Hit search - It finds the icons - matching case, which might be a problem - To reset it you seem to have to press search twice, then it does run again. But these might not be the problems you have. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 16:13 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It's not just the index problem. My converted stuff blows up right away, so it's something in the format (though it is acceptable xml). Not worth chasing. Desktop is dead! ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:04:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Have you got a copy of Flash? There's not much code in there if you want to tweak it. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Yes, you can. But you then have to restart Xerte, taking care not to save it on exit. ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:47:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK. You can 'find' in other tools though... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Mine blows up on search 1 I suspect it's some anomaly in the code produced by the converter, though IE and Chrome both say it's well-formed (or at least don't throw any errors). Not worth worrying about. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:42:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It looks like the index isn't getting reset between searches. I'm sure I wrote it, but it uses regular expressions, so I'm sure I didn't... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK. Cheers. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It works correctly in my simple example the first time (it doesn't find the scr with 'press any key' in unless scripts is checked), but then seems to get a bit screwed up? The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key. So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them. //press any key Could someone confirm that? I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:44:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function > It's like the Align bug in AW.Never ever happened to me, not once. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 16:22 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It's like the Align bug in AW.You just get used to hitting Save in preparation for the crash.:-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:18:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionNot worth chasing.Desktop is dead! I just wondered ? if it?s an easy fix, then why not do it. There?s something funny in the find command because - Enter ?key?- Hit search- It finds the icons ? matching case, which might be a problem- To reset it you seem to have to press search twice, then it does run again. But these might not be the problems you have. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 16:13 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function It's not just the index problem.My converted stuff blows up right away, so it's something in the format (though it is acceptable xml). Not worth chasing.Desktop is dead!;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:04:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionHave you got a copy of Flash? There?s not much code in there if you want to tweak it. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Yes, you can.But you then have to restart Xerte, taking care not to save it on exit.;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:47:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionOK. You can ?find? in other tools though? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function Mine blows up on search 1 I suspect it's some anomaly in the code produced by the converter, though IE and Chrome both say it's well-formed (or at least don't throw any errors). Not worth worrying about. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:42:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionIt looks like the index isn?t getting reset between searches. I?m sure I wrote it, but it uses regular expressions, so I?m sure I didn?t? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find function OK.Cheers. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop Find functionIt works correctly in my simple example the first time (it doesn?t find the scr with ?press any key? in unless scripts is checked), but then seems to get a bit screwed up? The code is in Xerte svn, Components/engineFindReplace.fla From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 June 2013 15:21 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop Find function Say I'm trying to find just icons with the title Key.So I only check the "Icon Titles" box. But when I run it, I'm also picking up all the SCR's that have the work key in them.//press any key Could someone confirm that?I'm re-authoring generated code, so it could be something in my code generator. Cheers. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nikodem Miranowicz Sent: 17 June 2013 14:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Nikodem Hi all, Nikodem here. Glad to join the team. Cheers, Nikodem From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 17 June 2013 14:54 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Nikodem Hi, Fay will be leaving us on Friday for her maternity leave - I'm sure we'll return to that topic later in the week - but in the meantime, can I introduce you to Nikodem? Nikodem is going to be covering Fay's work during her leave for a couple of days a week, so please say 'Hi'! Nikodem will continue Fay's work on the front end stuff, Thanks, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 18 15:11:43 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:11:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: xerte using Citrix In-Reply-To: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC867FE6B6@EMAILHQ.kentfire.internal> References: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC867FE6B6@EMAILHQ.kentfire.internal> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383936@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Any idea? Citrix? Or the browser? Maybe related to the Mac thing you fixed John? From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 18 June 2013 10:31 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: xerte using Citrix Hello We are using Citrix servers and having a few issues with XOT 2.0; 1. When we go to 'import media' on any page type the browser pop up box doesn't appear & we are unable to upload any pictures or files. 2. In addition to this since upgrading to XOT 2.0 when we go to publish changes made to the content, the pop up box 'upload successful' does not appear and changes are not saved. 3. When we can add pictures in hot spot pages they don't appear very big regardless if they were 800x600 or 2000x2000 is this intentional as we would like to upload a number of detailed images for learners to interact with. I have spoken to our IS department who seem stumped on this. We have changed IE9 (our only allowed browser) settings to allow pop ups, changed internet options - browsing history to 'every time I visit this page' but still the above doesn't work going through our thin clients that use our citrix server. What is more confusing, is that If I connect one of our laptops to our citrix, the above (1&2) works. Alas we don't have enough laptops for our content editors. Has anyone else using citrix had these problems & know how to overcome them? Thank you Jason Bardell Kent Fire & Rescue Service -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 18 June 2013 10:31 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: xerte using Citrix Hello We are using Citrix servers and having a few issues with XOT 2.0; 1. When we go to ?import media? on any page type the browser pop up box doesn?t appear & we are unable to upload any pictures or files. 2. In addition to this since upgrading to XOT 2.0 when we go to publish changes made to the content, the pop up box ?upload successful? does not appear and changes are not saved.3. When we can add pictures in hot spot pages they don?t appear very big regardless if they were 800x600 or 2000x2000 is this intentional as we would like to upload a number of detailed images for learners to interact with. I have spoken to our IS department who seem stumped on this. We have changed IE9 (our only allowed browser) settings to allow pop ups, changed internet options ? browsing history to ?every time I visit this page? but still the above doesn?t work going through our thin clients that use our citrix server. What is more confusing, is that If I connect one of our laptops to our citrix, the above (1&2) works. Alas we don?t have enough laptops for our content editors. Has anyone else using citrix had these problems & know how to overcome them? Thank you Jason BardellKent Fire & Rescue Service This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jun 18 15:30:51 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:30:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte using Citrix In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383936@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC867FE6B6@EMAILHQ.kentfire.internal> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383936@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Nah I don't think so... Citrix desktops run virtualized remotely on a server... not sure why it wouldn't give the browse dialog though... With the Mac-Safari issue the browse dialog opens etc it was just the session check that wasn't allowing safari to proceed to write the file to the disk... Also, they say "since upgrading to XOT 2.0" does this mean that the browse dialog worked in the previous version v1.7-9 or was this never tried with Citrix? I would possibly suggest they confirm that the browse dialog appears on other websites where you can upload files... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:12 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: xerte using Citrix Any idea? Citrix? Or the browser? Maybe related to the Mac thing you fixed John? From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 18 June 2013 10:31 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: xerte using Citrix Hello We are using Citrix servers and having a few issues with XOT 2.0; 1. When we go to 'import media' on any page type the browser pop up box doesn't appear & we are unable to upload any pictures or files. 2. In addition to this since upgrading to XOT 2.0 when we go to publish changes made to the content, the pop up box 'upload successful' does not appear and changes are not saved. 3. When we can add pictures in hot spot pages they don't appear very big regardless if they were 800x600 or 2000x2000 is this intentional as we would like to upload a number of detailed images for learners to interact with. I have spoken to our IS department who seem stumped on this. We have changed IE9 (our only allowed browser) settings to allow pop ups, changed internet options - browsing history to 'every time I visit this page' but still the above doesn't work going through our thin clients that use our citrix server. What is more confusing, is that If I connect one of our laptops to our citrix, the above (1&2) works. Alas we don't have enough laptops for our content editors. Has anyone else using citrix had these problems & know how to overcome them? Thank you Jason Bardell Kent Fire & Rescue Service This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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Now, there is a help screen that the user can invoke, and to dismiss it they can "Press any Key".That also traps for the onKeyPress/rootIcon event Of course, my text entry now stops functioning.Once an event is re-used is the original gone?Can a keypress event iconid be more local?(I've never got it to work with anything but rootIcon as the broadcaster). Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jun 18 15:52:10 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:52:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte using Citrix In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383936@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC867FE6B6@EMAILHQ.kentfire.internal> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383936@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Could this setting be set to No Access? [cid:image001.png at 01CE6C3B.CB0D7490] Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:12 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: xerte using Citrix Any idea? Citrix? Or the browser? Maybe related to the Mac thing you fixed John? From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 18 June 2013 10:31 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: xerte using Citrix Hello We are using Citrix servers and having a few issues with XOT 2.0; 1. When we go to 'import media' on any page type the browser pop up box doesn't appear & we are unable to upload any pictures or files. 2. In addition to this since upgrading to XOT 2.0 when we go to publish changes made to the content, the pop up box 'upload successful' does not appear and changes are not saved. 3. When we can add pictures in hot spot pages they don't appear very big regardless if they were 800x600 or 2000x2000 is this intentional as we would like to upload a number of detailed images for learners to interact with. I have spoken to our IS department who seem stumped on this. We have changed IE9 (our only allowed browser) settings to allow pop ups, changed internet options - browsing history to 'every time I visit this page' but still the above doesn't work going through our thin clients that use our citrix server. What is more confusing, is that If I connect one of our laptops to our citrix, the above (1&2) works. Alas we don't have enough laptops for our content editors. Has anyone else using citrix had these problems & know how to overcome them? Thank you Jason Bardell Kent Fire & Rescue Service This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 June 2013 15:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Event horizon I have a text entry that uses an onKeyPress/rootIcon event setup to evaluate each key as it is pressed. Now, there is a help screen that the user can invoke, and to dismiss it they can "Press any Key". That also traps for the onKeyPress/rootIcon event Of course, my text entry now stops functioning. Once an event is re-used is the original gone? Can a keypress event iconid be more local? (I've never got it to work with anything but rootIcon as the broadcaster). Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 18 15:57:46 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:57:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte using Citrix In-Reply-To: References: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC867FE6B6@EMAILHQ.kentfire.internal> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383936@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C683839A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'll forward it back to the forteachers list, but I don't want to be stuck paying piggy in the middle! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 June 2013 15:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte using Citrix Could this setting be set to No Access? [cid:image001.png at 01CE6C3C.93325530] Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:12 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: xerte using Citrix Any idea? Citrix? Or the browser? Maybe related to the Mac thing you fixed John? From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 18 June 2013 10:31 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: xerte using Citrix Hello We are using Citrix servers and having a few issues with XOT 2.0; 1. When we go to 'import media' on any page type the browser pop up box doesn't appear & we are unable to upload any pictures or files. 2. In addition to this since upgrading to XOT 2.0 when we go to publish changes made to the content, the pop up box 'upload successful' does not appear and changes are not saved. 3. When we can add pictures in hot spot pages they don't appear very big regardless if they were 800x600 or 2000x2000 is this intentional as we would like to upload a number of detailed images for learners to interact with. I have spoken to our IS department who seem stumped on this. We have changed IE9 (our only allowed browser) settings to allow pop ups, changed internet options - browsing history to 'every time I visit this page' but still the above doesn't work going through our thin clients that use our citrix server. What is more confusing, is that If I connect one of our laptops to our citrix, the above (1&2) works. Alas we don't have enough laptops for our content editors. Has anyone else using citrix had these problems & know how to overcome them? Thank you Jason Bardell Kent Fire & Rescue Service This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 56210 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 18 15:58:20 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:58:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte using Citrix In-Reply-To: References: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC867FE6B6@EMAILHQ.kentfire.internal> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383936@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C683839A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> They've been long time users, so assume it all worked before. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 June 2013 15:31 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte using Citrix Nah I don't think so... Citrix desktops run virtualized remotely on a server... not sure why it wouldn't give the browse dialog though... With the Mac-Safari issue the browse dialog opens etc it was just the session check that wasn't allowing safari to proceed to write the file to the disk... Also, they say "since upgrading to XOT 2.0" does this mean that the browse dialog worked in the previous version v1.7-9 or was this never tried with Citrix? I would possibly suggest they confirm that the browse dialog appears on other websites where you can upload files... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:12 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: xerte using Citrix Any idea? Citrix? Or the browser? Maybe related to the Mac thing you fixed John? From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 18 June 2013 10:31 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: xerte using Citrix Hello We are using Citrix servers and having a few issues with XOT 2.0; 1. When we go to 'import media' on any page type the browser pop up box doesn't appear & we are unable to upload any pictures or files. 2. In addition to this since upgrading to XOT 2.0 when we go to publish changes made to the content, the pop up box 'upload successful' does not appear and changes are not saved. 3. When we can add pictures in hot spot pages they don't appear very big regardless if they were 800x600 or 2000x2000 is this intentional as we would like to upload a number of detailed images for learners to interact with. I have spoken to our IS department who seem stumped on this. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:57 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Event horizon It';s one of the limitations in AS2 that events can only have one listener: myObject.onRollOver = function(){ //do stuff } You cannot add further listeners to the onRollOver event. So if you later assign myObject.onRollOver = anotherFunction() you over write the orginal one yes. rootIcon.onKeyPress is an attempt to work around that because it can persist and you can use flags etc to work out what to do. The actual events are onKeyDown and onKeyUp which you can listen for on individual icons, rather than rootIcon. Either way around, without addEventListener which came later, it's limited. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 June 2013 15:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Event horizon I have a text entry that uses an onKeyPress/rootIcon event setup to evaluate each key as it is pressed. Now, there is a help screen that the user can invoke, and to dismiss it they can "Press any Key". That also traps for the onKeyPress/rootIcon event Of course, my text entry now stops functioning. Once an event is re-used is the original gone? Can a keypress event iconid be more local? (I've never got it to work with anything but rootIcon as the broadcaster). Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:57 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Event horizon It';s one of the limitations in AS2 that events can only have one listener: myObject.onRollOver = function(){ //do stuff } You cannot add further listeners to the onRollOver event. So if you later assign myObject.onRollOver = anotherFunction() you over write the orginal one yes. rootIcon.onKeyPress is an attempt to work around that because it can persist and you can use flags etc to work out what to do. The actual events are onKeyDown and onKeyUp which you can listen for on individual icons, rather than rootIcon. Either way around, without addEventListener which came later, it's limited. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 June 2013 15:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Event horizon I have a text entry that uses an onKeyPress/rootIcon event setup to evaluate each key as it is pressed. Now, there is a help screen that the user can invoke, and to dismiss it they can "Press any Key". That also traps for the onKeyPress/rootIcon event Of course, my text entry now stops functioning. Once an event is re-used is the original gone? Can a keypress event iconid be more local? (I've never got it to work with anything but rootIcon as the broadcaster). Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Now, there is a help screen that the user can invoke, and to dismiss it they can "Press any Key".That also traps for the onKeyPress/rootIcon event Of course, my text entry now stops functioning.Once an event is re-used is the original gone?Can a keypress event iconid be more local?(I've never got it to work with anything but rootIcon as the broadcaster). Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 June 2013 16:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Event horizon > The actual events are onKeyDown and onKeyUp which you can listen for on individual icons, rather than rootIcon. Perfect. I can use the onKeyUp to close the Help screen. Cheers, Dave From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 June 2013 15:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Event horizon I have a text entry that uses an onKeyPress/rootIcon event setup to evaluate each key as it is pressed. Now, there is a help screen that the user can invoke, and to dismiss it they can "Press any Key". That also traps for the onKeyPress/rootIcon event Of course, my text entry now stops functioning. Once an event is re-used is the original gone? Can a keypress event iconid be more local? (I've never got it to work with anything but rootIcon as the broadcaster). Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:56:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Event horizon The old vent system was one of the things I really found limiting to work with. AS3 with addEventListener was like a breath of fresh air. Then Flash died. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 June 2013 16:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Event horizon > The actual events are onKeyDown and onKeyUp which you can listen for on individual icons, rather than rootIcon. Perfect.I can use the onKeyUp to close the Help screen. Cheers,Dave From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 June 2013 15:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Event horizon I have a text entry that uses an onKeyPress/rootIcon event setup to evaluate each key as it is pressed. Now, there is a help screen that the user can invoke, and to dismiss it they can "Press any Key".That also traps for the onKeyPress/rootIcon event Of course, my text entry now stops functioning.Once an event is re-used is the original gone?Can a keypress event iconid be more local?(I've never got it to work with anything but rootIcon as the broadcaster). Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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This is the code from edit.php for a 'site' template var so = new SWFObject("modules/site/engine/wizard.swf", "mymovie", "800", "600", "8,0,0,0", "#e0e0e0"); so.addParam("quality", "high");so.addVariable("xmlvariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/preview.xml"); so.addVariable("rlovariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/media/"); so.addVariable("languagecodevariable", "en-GB"); so.addVariable("originalpathvariable", "modules/site/parent_templates/site/"); so.addVariable("template_id", "4"); so.addVariable("template_height", "600"); so.addVariable("template_width", "800"); so.addVariable("read_and_write", "true"); so.addVariable("savepath", "modules/xerte/engine/save.php"); so.addVariable("upload_path", "upload.php?path="); so.addVariable("preview_path", "modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php"); so.addVariable("flv_skin", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf"); so.addVariable("site_url", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/"); so.addVariable("apache", "false"); so.write("flashcontent"); So first line is fine - we are using modules/site/engine... Further down though we start using: modules/xerte/engine/save.php and modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php and modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf Now these are dupliacted in modules/site but we're still using the modules/xerte ones... why? Also, SteelOverAll.swf has full path, upload.php has no path... again i'm a bit confused as to why... I know it works but it could get confusing as more modules added now that Pat's modularisation is finished?? I think this needs looked at, sorry but probably by you Pat... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jun 18 22:42:56 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:42:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac/Safari fix now in trunk... Message-ID: Once people confirm that an update to SVN trunk still works for them then i'll push these changes over to the 2.0 branch also... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jun 18 23:03:48 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:03:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Safari media upload issue from Graham Bell - request for server patching Message-ID: Hi Alistair/Ron, I think I have now got to the bottom of this bug and have produced a patch. It would be great if you were able to either apply the patch attached (instructions below) or upgrade to latest trunk. Inside the attached zip is a folder called 'modules' with other files/folders inside. If you unzip and drop the 'modules' folder into the root of your install (there will already be a folder there called 'modules' - just grant permissions to overwrite and the problematic files will be replaced. Let me know when/if one of you can do this and i'll email Graham to see if he can test in Safari - I assum it's the Sandbox he's using as he said Alistair supplies it - if so then I can also test on Mac/Safari to make sure it is now fixed. Thanks in advance... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jun 18 23:08:56 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:08:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible issue with paths that might need resolving In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42A6F690-5DA9-4D51-9BEB-7BCD3F48030B@pgogywebstuff.com> Is this a trunk install or a zip install? In the trunk, then site inherits from xerte and so is fine - this way code doesn't need to be duplicated because it knows the use the other bits. The upload path is relative to the engine, so it is augmented with file names and so on. Not sure why the video player skin is a full path - try making it relative and see what happens I guess? On 18 Jun 2013, at 22:24, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi Pat/Julian, > > So in testing things to sort this Mac/Safari issue I was getting a bit muddled over which file goes where because of the duplicates and changes I was making were not being reflected even after flushing the cache... I think some of them were due to me not being right up to date with trunk... however tonight I took another look and... > > This is the code from edit.php for a 'site' template > > var so = new SWFObject("modules/site/engine/wizard.swf", "mymovie", "800", "600", "8,0,0,0", "#e0e0e0"); > so.addParam("quality", "high");so.addVariable("xmlvariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/preview.xml"); > so.addVariable("rlovariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/media/"); > so.addVariable("languagecodevariable", "en-GB"); > so.addVariable("originalpathvariable", "modules/site/parent_templates/site/"); > so.addVariable("template_id", "4"); > so.addVariable("template_height", "600"); > so.addVariable("template_width", "800"); > so.addVariable("read_and_write", "true"); > so.addVariable("savepath", "modules/xerte/engine/save.php"); > so.addVariable("upload_path", "upload.php?path="); > so.addVariable("preview_path", "modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php"); > so.addVariable("flv_skin", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf"); > so.addVariable("site_url", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/"); > so.addVariable("apache", "false"); > so.write("flashcontent"); > > So first line is fine - we are using modules/site/engine... > Further down though we start using: > modules/xerte/engine/save.php and > modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php and > modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf > > Now these are dupliacted in modules/site but we're still using the modules/xerte ones... why? > > Also, SteelOverAll.swf has full path, upload.php has no path... again i'm a bit confused as to why... > > I know it works but it could get confusing as more modules added now that Pat's modularisation is finished?? I think this needs looked at, sorry but probably by you Pat... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jun 18 23:20:07 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:20:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible issue with paths that might need resolving Message-ID: This is trunk. So should we remove all the files from bootstrap that aren't being used so that we don't have files in limbo that are never used? There are probably others over and above the 3 that I have identified... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Is this a trunk install or a zip install? In the trunk, then site inherits from xerte and so is fine - this way code doesn't need to be duplicated because it knows the use the other bits. The upload path is relative to the engine, so it is augmented with file names and so on. Not sure why the video player skin is a full path - try making it relative and see what happens I guess? On 18 Jun 2013, at 22:24, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi Pat/Julian, > > So in testing things to sort this Mac/Safari issue I was getting a bit muddled over which file goes where because of the duplicates and changes I was making were not being reflected even after flushing the cache... I think some of them were due to me not being right up to date with trunk... however tonight I took another look and... > > This is the code from edit.php for a 'site' template > > var so = new SWFObject("modules/site/engine/wizard.swf", "mymovie", "800", "600", "8,0,0,0", "#e0e0e0"); > so.addParam("quality", "high");so.addVariable("xmlvariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/preview.xml"); > so.addVariable("rlovariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/media/"); > so.addVariable("languagecodevariable", "en-GB"); > so.addVariable("originalpathvariable", "modules/site/parent_templates/site/"); > so.addVariable("template_id", "4"); > so.addVariable("template_height", "600"); > so.addVariable("template_width", "800"); > so.addVariable("read_and_write", "true"); > so.addVariable("savepath", "modules/xerte/engine/save.php"); > so.addVariable("upload_path", "upload.php?path="); > so.addVariable("preview_path", "modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php"); > so.addVariable("flv_skin", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf"); > so.addVariable("site_url", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/"); > so.addVariable("apache", "false"); > so.write("flashcontent"); > > So first line is fine - we are using modules/site/engine... > Further down though we start using: > modules/xerte/engine/save.php and > modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php and > modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf > > Now these are dupliacted in modules/site but we're still using the modules/xerte ones... why? > > Also, SteelOverAll.swf has full path, upload.php has no path... again i'm a bit confused as to why... > > I know it works but it could get confusing as more modules added now that Pat's modularisation is finished?? 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Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Smith, John" wrote: This is trunk. So should we remove all the files from bootstrap that aren't being used so that we don't have files in limbo that are never used? There are probably others over and above the 3 that I have identified... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Is this a trunk install or a zip install? In the trunk, then site inherits from xerte and so is fine - this way code doesn't need to be duplicated because it knows the use the other bits. The upload path is relative to the engine, so it is augmented with file names and so on. Not sure why the video player skin is a full path - try making it relative and see what happens I guess? On 18 Jun 2013, at 22:24, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi Pat/Julian, > > So in testing things to sort this Mac/Safari issue I was getting a bit muddled over which file goes where because of the duplicates and changes I was making were not being reflected even after flushing the cache... I think some of them were due to me not being right up to date with trunk... however tonight I took another look and... > > This is the code from edit.php for a 'site' template > > var so = new SWFObject("modules/site/engine/wizard.swf", "mymovie", "800", "600", "8,0,0,0", "#e0e0e0"); > so.addParam("quality", "high");so.addVariable("xmlvariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/preview.xml"); > so.addVariable("rlovariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/media/"); > so.addVariable("languagecodevariable", "en-GB"); > so.addVariable("originalpathvariable", "modules/site/parent_templates/site/"); > so.addVariable("template_id", "4"); > so.addVariable("template_height", "600"); > so.addVariable("template_width", "800"); > so.addVariable("read_and_write", "true"); > so.addVariable("savepath", "modules/xerte/engine/save.php"); > so.addVariable("upload_path", "upload.php?path="); > so.addVariable("preview_path", "modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php"); > so.addVariable("flv_skin", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf"); > so.addVariable("site_url", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/"); > so.addVariable("apache", "false"); > so.write("flashcontent"); > > So first line is fine - we are using modules/site/engine... > Further down though we start using: > modules/xerte/engine/save.php and > modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php and > modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf > > Now these are dupliacted in modules/site but we're still using the modules/xerte ones... why? > > Also, SteelOverAll.swf has full path, upload.php has no path... again i'm a bit confused as to why... > > I know it works but it could get confusing as more modules added now that Pat's modularisation is finished?? I think this needs looked at, sorry but probably by you Pat... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jun 18 23:27:42 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:27:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible issue with paths that might need resolving Message-ID: Or better still, detect that they are there and use them, just in case we need to make changes in the future? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Smith, John" wrote: This is trunk. So should we remove all the files from bootstrap that aren't being used so that we don't have files in limbo that are never used? There are probably others over and above the 3 that I have identified... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Is this a trunk install or a zip install? In the trunk, then site inherits from xerte and so is fine - this way code doesn't need to be duplicated because it knows the use the other bits. The upload path is relative to the engine, so it is augmented with file names and so on. Not sure why the video player skin is a full path - try making it relative and see what happens I guess? On 18 Jun 2013, at 22:24, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi Pat/Julian, > > So in testing things to sort this Mac/Safari issue I was getting a bit muddled over which file goes where because of the duplicates and changes I was making were not being reflected even after flushing the cache... I think some of them were due to me not being right up to date with trunk... however tonight I took another look and... > > This is the code from edit.php for a 'site' template > > var so = new SWFObject("modules/site/engine/wizard.swf", "mymovie", "800", "600", "8,0,0,0", "#e0e0e0"); > so.addParam("quality", "high");so.addVariable("xmlvariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/preview.xml"); > so.addVariable("rlovariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/media/"); > so.addVariable("languagecodevariable", "en-GB"); > so.addVariable("originalpathvariable", "modules/site/parent_templates/site/"); > so.addVariable("template_id", "4"); > so.addVariable("template_height", "600"); > so.addVariable("template_width", "800"); > so.addVariable("read_and_write", "true"); > so.addVariable("savepath", "modules/xerte/engine/save.php"); > so.addVariable("upload_path", "upload.php?path="); > so.addVariable("preview_path", "modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php"); > so.addVariable("flv_skin", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf"); > so.addVariable("site_url", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/"); > so.addVariable("apache", "false"); > so.write("flashcontent"); > > So first line is fine - we are using modules/site/engine... > Further down though we start using: > modules/xerte/engine/save.php and > modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php and > modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf > > Now these are dupliacted in modules/site but we're still using the modules/xerte ones... why? > > Also, SteelOverAll.swf has full path, upload.php has no path... again i'm a bit confused as to why... > > I know it works but it could get confusing as more modules added now that Pat's modularisation is finished?? I think this needs looked at, sorry but probably by you Pat... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jun 18 23:31:39 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:31:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible issue with paths that might need resolving In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A753C75-990F-421A-820B-CE9DECB2AEA8@pgogywebstuff.com> In theory I removed the duplicates? Maybe the deletes didn't commit? On 18 Jun 2013, at 23:27, "Smith, John" wrote: > Or better still, detect that they are there and use them, just in case we need to make changes in the future? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > "Smith, John" wrote: > > > This is trunk. > > So should we remove all the files from bootstrap that aren't being used so that we don't have files in limbo that are never used? There are probably others over and above the 3 that I have identified... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > Is this a trunk install or a zip install? > > In the trunk, then site inherits from xerte and so is fine - this way code doesn't need to be duplicated because it knows the use the other bits. > > The upload path is relative to the engine, so it is augmented with file names and so on. > > Not sure why the video player skin is a full path - try making it relative and see what happens I guess? > > On 18 Jun 2013, at 22:24, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Hi Pat/Julian, >> >> So in testing things to sort this Mac/Safari issue I was getting a bit muddled over which file goes where because of the duplicates and changes I was making were not being reflected even after flushing the cache... I think some of them were due to me not being right up to date with trunk... however tonight I took another look and... >> >> This is the code from edit.php for a 'site' template >> >> var so = new SWFObject("modules/site/engine/wizard.swf", "mymovie", "800", "600", "8,0,0,0", "#e0e0e0"); >> so.addParam("quality", "high");so.addVariable("xmlvariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/preview.xml"); >> so.addVariable("rlovariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/media/"); >> so.addVariable("languagecodevariable", "en-GB"); >> so.addVariable("originalpathvariable", "modules/site/parent_templates/site/"); >> so.addVariable("template_id", "4"); >> so.addVariable("template_height", "600"); >> so.addVariable("template_width", "800"); >> so.addVariable("read_and_write", "true"); >> so.addVariable("savepath", "modules/xerte/engine/save.php"); >> so.addVariable("upload_path", "upload.php?path="); >> so.addVariable("preview_path", "modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php"); >> so.addVariable("flv_skin", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf"); >> so.addVariable("site_url", "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/"); >> so.addVariable("apache", "false"); >> so.write("flashcontent"); >> >> So first line is fine - we are using modules/site/engine... >> Further down though we start using: >> modules/xerte/engine/save.php and >> modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php and >> modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf >> >> Now these are dupliacted in modules/site but we're still using the modules/xerte ones... why? >> >> Also, SteelOverAll.swf has full path, upload.php has no path... again i'm a bit confused as to why... >> >> I know it works but it could get confusing as more modules added now that Pat's modularisation is finished?? 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In the trunk, then site inherits from xerte and so is fine - this way code doesn't need to be duplicated because it knows the use the other bits. The upload path is relative to the engine, so it is augmented with file names and so on. Not sure why the video player skin is a full path - try making it relative and see what happens I guess? On 18 Jun 2013, at 22:24, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi Pat/Julian, > > So in testing things to sort this Mac/Safari issue I was getting a bit muddled over which file goes where because of the duplicates and changes I was making were not being reflected even after flushing the cache... I think some of them were due to me not being right up to date with trunk... however tonight I took another look and... > > This is the code from edit.php for a 'site' template > > var so = new SWFObject("modules/site/engine/wizard.swf", "mymovie", > "800", "600", "8,0,0,0", "#e0e0e0"); so.addParam("quality", > "high");so.addVariable("xmlvariable", > "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/preview.xml"); > so.addVariable("rlovariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/media/"); > so.addVariable("languagecodevariable", "en-GB"); > so.addVariable("originalpathvariable", > "modules/site/parent_templates/site/"); > so.addVariable("template_id", "4"); > so.addVariable("template_height", "600"); > so.addVariable("template_width", "800"); > so.addVariable("read_and_write", "true"); so.addVariable("savepath", > "modules/xerte/engine/save.php"); so.addVariable("upload_path", > "upload.php?path="); so.addVariable("preview_path", > "modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php"); > so.addVariable("flv_skin", > "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverA > ll.swf"); so.addVariable("site_url", > "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/"); > so.addVariable("apache", "false"); > so.write("flashcontent"); > > So first line is fine - we are using modules/site/engine... > Further down though we start using: > modules/xerte/engine/save.php and > modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php and > modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf > > Now these are dupliacted in modules/site but we're still using the modules/xerte ones... why? > > Also, SteelOverAll.swf has full path, upload.php has no path... again i'm a bit confused as to why... > > I know it works but it could get confusing as more modules added now that Pat's modularisation is finished?? I think this needs looked at, sorry but probably by you Pat... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 19 09:34:07 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:34:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible issue with paths that might need resolving In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383B4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> That makes sense but I don't really understand the modularisation stuff. Conceptually I get it, but I'm not familiar with the code. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 June 2013 23:20 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible issue with paths that might need resolving This is trunk. So should we remove all the files from bootstrap that aren't being used so that we don't have files in limbo that are never used? There are probably others over and above the 3 that I have identified... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Is this a trunk install or a zip install? In the trunk, then site inherits from xerte and so is fine - this way code doesn't need to be duplicated because it knows the use the other bits. The upload path is relative to the engine, so it is augmented with file names and so on. Not sure why the video player skin is a full path - try making it relative and see what happens I guess? On 18 Jun 2013, at 22:24, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi Pat/Julian, > > So in testing things to sort this Mac/Safari issue I was getting a bit muddled over which file goes where because of the duplicates and changes I was making were not being reflected even after flushing the cache... I think some of them were due to me not being right up to date with trunk... however tonight I took another look and... > > This is the code from edit.php for a 'site' template > > var so = new SWFObject("modules/site/engine/wizard.swf", "mymovie", > "800", "600", "8,0,0,0", "#e0e0e0"); so.addParam("quality", > "high");so.addVariable("xmlvariable", > "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/preview.xml"); > so.addVariable("rlovariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/media/"); > so.addVariable("languagecodevariable", "en-GB"); > so.addVariable("originalpathvariable", > "modules/site/parent_templates/site/"); > so.addVariable("template_id", "4"); > so.addVariable("template_height", "600"); > so.addVariable("template_width", "800"); > so.addVariable("read_and_write", "true"); so.addVariable("savepath", > "modules/xerte/engine/save.php"); so.addVariable("upload_path", > "upload.php?path="); so.addVariable("preview_path", > "modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php"); > so.addVariable("flv_skin", > "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverA > ll.swf"); so.addVariable("site_url", > "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/"); > so.addVariable("apache", "false"); > so.write("flashcontent"); > > So first line is fine - we are using modules/site/engine... > Further down though we start using: > modules/xerte/engine/save.php and > modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php and > modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf > > Now these are dupliacted in modules/site but we're still using the modules/xerte ones... why? > > Also, SteelOverAll.swf has full path, upload.php has no path... again i'm a bit confused as to why... > > I know it works but it could get confusing as more modules added now that Pat's modularisation is finished?? I think this needs looked at, sorry but probably by you Pat... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 19 09:34:36 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:34:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac/Safari fix now in trunk... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383B50@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Nice one, thanks, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 June 2013 22:43 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mac/Safari fix now in trunk... Once people confirm that an update to SVN trunk still works for them then i'll push these changes over to the 2.0 branch also... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jun 19 11:45:09 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:45:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible issue with paths that might need resolving In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383B37@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <42A6F690-5DA9-4D51-9BEB-7BCD3F48030B@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383B37@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Not sure, must be a reason it was set that way On 19 Jun 2013, at 09:28, Julian Tenney wrote: >> Not sure why the video player skin is a full path - try making it relative and see what happens I guess? > Does it matter? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 18 June 2013 23:09 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible issue with paths that might need resolving > > Is this a trunk install or a zip install? > > In the trunk, then site inherits from xerte and so is fine - this way code doesn't need to be duplicated because it knows the use the other bits. > > The upload path is relative to the engine, so it is augmented with file names and so on. > > Not sure why the video player skin is a full path - try making it relative and see what happens I guess? > > On 18 Jun 2013, at 22:24, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Hi Pat/Julian, >> >> So in testing things to sort this Mac/Safari issue I was getting a bit muddled over which file goes where because of the duplicates and changes I was making were not being reflected even after flushing the cache... I think some of them were due to me not being right up to date with trunk... however tonight I took another look and... >> >> This is the code from edit.php for a 'site' template >> >> var so = new SWFObject("modules/site/engine/wizard.swf", "mymovie", >> "800", "600", "8,0,0,0", "#e0e0e0"); so.addParam("quality", >> "high");so.addVariable("xmlvariable", >> "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/preview.xml"); >> so.addVariable("rlovariable", "USER-FILES/4-guest2-site/media/"); >> so.addVariable("languagecodevariable", "en-GB"); >> so.addVariable("originalpathvariable", >> "modules/site/parent_templates/site/"); >> so.addVariable("template_id", "4"); >> so.addVariable("template_height", "600"); >> so.addVariable("template_width", "800"); >> so.addVariable("read_and_write", "true"); so.addVariable("savepath", >> "modules/xerte/engine/save.php"); so.addVariable("upload_path", >> "upload.php?path="); so.addVariable("preview_path", >> "modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php"); >> so.addVariable("flv_skin", >> "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverA >> ll.swf"); so.addVariable("site_url", >> "http://localhost/moodle19/xerte/"); >> so.addVariable("apache", "false"); >> so.write("flashcontent"); >> >> So first line is fine - we are using modules/site/engine... >> Further down though we start using: >> modules/xerte/engine/save.php and >> modules/xerte/engine/file_exists.php and >> modules/xerte/engine/tools/SteelOverAll.swf >> >> Now these are dupliacted in modules/site but we're still using the modules/xerte ones... why? >> >> Also, SteelOverAll.swf has full path, upload.php has no path... again i'm a bit confused as to why... >> >> I know it works but it could get confusing as more modules added now that Pat's modularisation is finished?? 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BTW it's not the Techdis sandpit Graham is using but it is another Techdis install. We have a new sandpit too and I did see someone else have the same problem with Safari on a Mac the other day. I'll post a separate message on the dev list here but may as well mention this now too that in the absence of a zip attached to your message I grabbed the latest trunk (which obviously has many more updates than just yours) and updated a test install and that was causing problems. It seemed to be adding \ in lots of places and therefore breaking the xml e.g. <![CDATA[Enter title here]]> HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 June 2013 23:04 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Safari media upload issue from Graham Bell - request for server patching Importance: High Hi Alistair/Ron, I think I have now got to the bottom of this bug and have produced a patch. It would be great if you were able to either apply the patch attached (instructions below) or upgrade to latest trunk. Inside the attached zip is a folder called 'modules' with other files/folders inside. If you unzip and drop the 'modules' folder into the root of your install (there will already be a folder there called 'modules' - just grant permissions to overwrite and the problematic files will be replaced. Let me know when/if one of you can do this and i'll email Graham to see if he can test in Safari - I assum it's the Sandbox he's using as he said Alistair supplies it - if so then I can also test on Mac/Safari to make sure it is now fixed. Thanks in advance... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Jun 19 17:40:33 2013 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:40:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] problem with trunk and added slashes? Message-ID: <000f01ce6d0b$b89407e0$29bc17a0$@co.uk> Hi all I just replied to a message from John where I've already mentioned this but thought I should start a new thread too as this may be unrelated to the main focus of that other thread. I updated a test install with the latest code from trunk and notice that as soon as I edited and published an LO it was adding extra slashes and thefore breaking preview/play. Here's some sample xml showing the slashes that got added to both preview.xml and data.xml <![CDATA[Enter title here]]> I updated an install that was already version 2 but still quite a few revisions applied so not sure what revision is causing this but I reverted the code fixed the xml from my test project and all was fine. Re-applied the code and problem returned. Any ideas? HTH Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 19 18:05:51 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:05:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Safari media upload issue from Graham Bell - request for server patching Message-ID: Hi Ron That's fine - have been busy myself lately and only just getting around to fixing this. I thought i had attached the zip but it was late however if you are going to update to trunk then it won't be needed but will get it over to you anyway in case you need to roll back. The escaped quotes issue sounds very familiar and something Tom or Pat was working on i think and was very much server specific involving magic quotes i think hence the reason i'm not seeing it. Not sure though which revision the changes were made in though, perhaps its mentioned in the svn notes? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi John sorry been extremely busy with other things but was there meant to me a file attached to your message below? BTW it's not the Techdis sandpit Graham is using but it is another Techdis install. We have a new sandpit too and I did see someone else have the same problem with Safari on a Mac the other day. I'll post a separate message on the dev list here but may as well mention this now too that in the absence of a zip attached to your message I grabbed the latest trunk (which obviously has many more updates than just yours) and updated a test install and that was causing problems. It seemed to be adding \ in lots of places and therefore breaking the xml e.g. <![CDATA[Enter title here]]> HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 June 2013 23:04 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Safari media upload issue from Graham Bell - request for server patching Importance: High Hi Alistair/Ron, I think I have now got to the bottom of this bug and have produced a patch. It would be great if you were able to either apply the patch attached (instructions below) or upgrade to latest trunk. Inside the attached zip is a folder called 'modules' with other files/folders inside. If you unzip and drop the 'modules' folder into the root of your install (there will already be a folder there called 'modules' - just grant permissions to overwrite and the problematic files will be replaced. Let me know when/if one of you can do this and i'll email Graham to see if he can test in Safari - I assum it's the Sandbox he's using as he said Alistair supplies it - if so then I can also test on Mac/Safari to make sure it is now fixed. Thanks in advance... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Jun 20 07:52:01 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:52:01 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with trunk and added slashes? In-Reply-To: <000f01ce6d0b$b89407e0$29bc17a0$@co.uk> References: <000f01ce6d0b$b89407e0$29bc17a0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <51C2A691.2090505@tor.nl> It has probable caused by r958 (2.0) and r956(trunk). What are your magic_quote settings in php.ini? Tom Op 19-6-2013 18:40, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi all > > I just replied to a message from John where I've already mentioned > this but thought I should start a new thread too as this may be > unrelated to the main focus of that other thread... > > I updated a test install with the latest code from trunk and notice > that as soon as I edited and published an LO it was adding extra > slashes and thefore breaking preview/play. Here's some sample xml > showing the slashes that got added to both preview.xml and data.xml > > Object Title\" navigation=\"Linear\" textSize=\"12\" > displayMode=\"default\"> > > Title\" size=\"30\"><![CDATA[Enter title here]]> > > linkID=\"PG1361433467001\" name=\"Enter Page Title\" align=\"Left\" > imagesize=\"full screen\" url=\"FileLocation + > \'media/800_x_516.jpg\'\" tip=\"Enter a Tooltip\" > transcriptbuttonlabel=\"Transcript\"> here]]> > > Title\" align=\"Left\" imagesize=\"full screen\" url=\"FileLocation + > \'media/xpert_logo.gif\'\" tip=\"Enter a Tooltip\" > transcriptbuttonlabel=\"Transcript\"> here]]> > > > > I updated an install that was already version 2 but still quite a few > revisions applied so not sure what revision is causing this but I > reverted the code fixed the xml from my test project and all was fine. > Re-applied the code and problem returned. > > Any ideas? > > HTH > Cheers > > Ron > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Magic quotes settins are as follows: magic_quotes_gpc Off Off magic_quotes_runtime Off Off magic_quotes_sybase Off Off But this has been the case previously too when this wasn't a problem. I have full control over this server which has 3 separate xot installations so I could change the magic quotes settings but lots of people obviously won't have control over that e.g. on shared hosting etc HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 20 June 2013 07:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with trunk and added slashes? It has probable caused by r958 (2.0) and r956(trunk). What are your magic_quote settings in php.ini? Tom Op 19-6-2013 18:40, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all I just replied to a message from John where I've already mentioned this but thought I should start a new thread too as this may be unrelated to the main focus of that other thread. I updated a test install with the latest code from trunk and notice that as soon as I edited and published an LO it was adding extra slashes and thefore breaking preview/play. Here's some sample xml showing the slashes that got added to both preview.xml and data.xml <![CDATA[Enter title here]]> I updated an install that was already version 2 but still quite a few revisions applied so not sure what revision is causing this but I reverted the code fixed the xml from my test project and all was fine. Re-applied the code and problem returned. Any ideas? HTH Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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In-Reply-To: <000001ce6de3$76fe1590$64fa40b0$@co.uk> References: <000f01ce6d0b$b89407e0$29bc17a0$@co.uk> <51C2A691.2090505@tor.nl> <000001ce6de3$76fe1590$64fa40b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: The fact that not all people have control over this was the reason for the fix. The old code called stripslashes regardless of the settings resulting in backslashes being removed from prior escapes and LaTeX expressions. But given your settings, I don't understand where the slashes as coming from. Tom Ron Mitchell schreef: >Hi Tom > >sorry for the delayed response been at an event all day and only just >on the >train home. Magic quotes settins are as follows: > >magic_quotes_gpc Off Off > >magic_quotes_runtime Off Off > >magic_quotes_sybase Off Off > > > >But this has been the case previously too when this wasn't a problem. I >have >full control over this server which has 3 separate xot installations so >I >could change the magic quotes settings but lots of people obviously >won't >have control over that e.g. on shared hosting etc > > > >HTH > >Ron > > > >From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >Reijnders >Sent: 20 June 2013 07:52 >To: For Xerte technical developers >Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with trunk and added slashes? > > > >It has probable caused by r958 (2.0) and r956(trunk). 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Fri Jun 21 08:31:39 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 08:31:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with trunk and added slashes? In-Reply-To: References: <000f01ce6d0b$b89407e0$29bc17a0$@co.uk> <51C2A691.2090505@tor.nl> <000001ce6de3$76fe1590$64fa40b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Save.php not updated in the modules folder? On 20 Jun 2013, at 23:03, Tom Reijnders wrote: > The fact that not all people have control over this was the reason for the fix. The old code called stripslashes regardless of the settings resulting in backslashes being removed from prior escapes and LaTeX expressions. > > But given your settings, I don't understand where the slashes as coming from. > > Tom > > Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Hi Tom >> sorry for the delayed response been at an event all day and only just on the train home. Magic quotes settins are as follows: >> magic_quotes_gpc Off Off >> magic_quotes_runtime Off Off >> magic_quotes_sybase Off Off >> >> >> But this has been the case previously too when this wasn't a problem. I have full control over this server which has 3 separate xot installations so I could change the magic quotes settings but lots of people obviously won't have control over that e.g. on share d hosting etc >> >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 20 June 2013 07:52 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with trunk and added slashes? >> >> >> It has probable caused by r958 (2.0) and r956(trunk). What are your magic_quote settings in php.ini? >> >> Tom >> >> Op 19-6-2013 18:40, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> Hi all >> I just replied to a message from John where I've already mentioned this but thought I should start a new thread too as this may be unrelated to the main focus of that other thread? >> >> I updated a test install with the latest code from trunk and notice that as soon as I edited and published an LO it was adding extra slashes and thefore breaking preview/play. Here's some sample xml showing the slashes that got added to both preview.xml and data.xml >> >> >> <![CDATA[Enter title here]]> >> >> >> >> >> I updated an install that was already version 2 but still quite a few revisions applied so not sure what revision is causing this but I reverted the code fixed the xml from my test project and all was fine. Re-applied the code and problem returned. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> HTH >> Cheers >> Ron >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Fri Jun 21 11:19:20 2013 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:19:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] =?utf-8?q?Fw=3A_=5BXerte=5D_Problems_with_exporting?= In-Reply-To: References: <51c424de.c848b40a.213a.ffffcfa3@mx.google.com>, Message-ID: <51c428b5.4b48b40a.3b92.0f5f@mx.google.com> Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN Sent Using Office 365 & Windows 8 Mail For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: Mcnaughton, Nicolle (Hills Road Staff) Sent: ?Friday?, ?21? ?June? ?2013 ?11?:?13 To: 'thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk' Cc: Starling, Ben (Hills Road Staff) Thomas, this is fantastic! I am forwarding this to Ben Starling who is trying to make sure my Xerte program appears correctly on our external site ? he is looking into the problem, but has a million other things to do, so I am not sure exactly where he is with this. Ben: I am happy to liase with Thomas if you are over run with stuff, but it may be better for him to talk directly to you as my knowledge is a bit more basic than yours? Nicolle From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk [mailto:thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk] Sent: 21 June 2013 10:51 To: Mcnaughton, Nicolle (Hills Road Staff) Subject: Re: [Xerte] Problems with exporting Good Morning Nicolle, I?m Thomas Rochford and I work for the Regional Support for Eastern England. Mike Carrington knows me, so you can check this out with him, if you wish. As you may know we provide free support to your College, and you may know my colleagues Catherine Bone and Malcolm Bodley who visited your College a month or two ago. I also work closely with the Xerte Development team and am responsible for the standalone version which can run from a USB stick. We call this MAXOS (Moodle and Xerte On a Stick). If you need any additional support with this problem, or anything else to do with Xerte, please drop me a line and I can nip over, I live in Cambridge and work from home, so it?s not difficult to come over at all. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity Email: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk | Web: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN Sent Using Office 365 & Windows 8 Mail For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk From: Mcnaughton, Nicolle (Hills Road Staff) Sent: ?Wednesday?, ?19? ?June? ?2013 ?09?:?02 To: 'xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Dear Xerte users, I am trying to make a package using the online toolkit, and need to export it to allow my school to post it up in a finished form on our external website. I have used the ?scorm export? method as advised, and when I activate the program once I have unzipped it, it says it is looking for an API adaptor. Despite the errors, it seems to work OK, but I would prefer not to have confusing messages pop up. The exact messages are: Unable to locate the LMS?s API Implementation LMSInitialize was not successful Unable to find an API adaptor. Any help would be much appreciated, Thanks, Nicolle Please consider the environment and don't print this email unless you really need to. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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If you're searching for a Dutch name... :) Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 17-6-2013 16:09, Dave Burnett schreef: Hi Nikodem! And smooth sailing for Fay! Dave ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:53:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Nikodem Hi, Fay will be leaving us on Friday for her maternity leave - I'm sure we'll return to that topic later in the week - but in the meantime, can I introduce you to Nikodem? Nikodem is going to be covering Fay's work during her leave for a couple of days a week, so please say 'Hi'! Nikodem will continue Fay's work on the front end stuff, Thanks, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Enjoy! > If you're searching for a Dutch name... :) > > Bye, > Inge > > 12Change > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn > > Op 17-6-2013 16:09, Dave Burnett schreef: > > Hi Nikodem! > > And smooth sailing for Fay! > > Dave > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:53:32 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Nikodem > > Hi, > > Fay will be leaving us on Friday for her maternity leave -- I'm > sure we'll return to that topic later in the week - but in the > meantime, can I introduce you to Nikodem? Nikodem is going to be > covering Fay's work during her leave for a couple of days a week, > so please say 'Hi'! > > Nikodem will continue Fay's work on the front end stuff, > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 21 June 2013 14:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Nikodem and Fay Thanks everyone, I'll let you know if I struggle for names... maybe it's the hormones but Xerte is a good name for a girl isn't it? ;) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 17 June 2013 16:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Nikodem and Fay Hi Nikodem! Bye Fay, we (tom & I) wish you a very nice time. Enjoy! If you're searching for a Dutch name... :) Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 17-6-2013 16:09, Dave Burnett schreef: Hi Nikodem! And smooth sailing for Fay! Dave _____ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:53:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Nikodem Hi, Fay will be leaving us on Friday for her maternity leave - I'm sure we'll return to that topic later in the week - but in the meantime, can I introduce you to Nikodem? Nikodem is going to be covering Fay's work during her leave for a couple of days a week, so please say 'Hi'! Nikodem will continue Fay's work on the front end stuff, Thanks, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Oh On 21 Jun 2013, at 14:50, Fay Cross wrote: > Thanks everyone, I?ll let you know if I struggle for names... maybe it?s the hormones but Xerte is a good name for a girl isn?t it? ;) > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change > Sent: 17 June 2013 16:15 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Nikodem and Fay > > Hi Nikodem! > Bye Fay, we (tom & I) wish you a very nice time. Enjoy! > If you're searching for a Dutch name... :) > > Bye, > Inge > > 1 2 Change > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn > Op 17-6-2013 16:09, Dave Burnett schreef: > Hi Nikodem! > > And smooth sailing for Fay! > > Dave > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:53:32 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Nikodem > > Hi, > > > > Fay will be leaving us on Friday for her maternity leave ? I?m sure we?ll return to that topic later in the week - but in the meantime, can I introduce you to Nikodem? Nikodem is going to be covering Fay?s work during her leave for a couple of days a week, so please say ?Hi?! > > > > Nikodem will continue Fay?s work on the front end stuff, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julian > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 2:51 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Nikodem and Fay Thanks everyone, I'll let you know if I struggle for names... maybe it's the hormones but Xerte is a good name for a girl isn't it? ;) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 17 June 2013 16:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Nikodem and Fay Hi Nikodem! Bye Fay, we (tom & I) wish you a very nice time. Enjoy! If you're searching for a Dutch name... :) Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 17-6-2013 16:09, Dave Burnett schreef: Hi Nikodem! And smooth sailing for Fay! Dave ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:53:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Nikodem Hi, Fay will be leaving us on Friday for her maternity leave - I'm sure we'll return to that topic later in the week - but in the meantime, can I introduce you to Nikodem? Nikodem is going to be covering Fay's work during her leave for a couple of days a week, so please say 'Hi'! Nikodem will continue Fay's work on the front end stuff, Thanks, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Should we have a different one for viewing and editing? Colour, indicator etc? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 24 09:27:15 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:27:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Favicon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF17B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Go for it. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 22 June 2013 16:13 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Favicon Any reason why we have an empty favicon in svn but then aren't even using it in the pages? Can I add the tools icon in? Fed up with the xampp one showing on all pages... Should we have a different one for viewing and editing? Colour, indicator etc? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 24 15:31:18 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:31:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: Meet up? In-Reply-To: <5FCA05DB91494215BEBA82F8977E1850@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C4C2C2081@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C4C405A07@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9D6F12FD-7D34-49CC-BB65-FEB81E3CEADC@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C4C4CCFCB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8053838C-320C-4740-8FE6-89C3918C3C7A@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C51B5B7BD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383C01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5721CE6BA3F343CDBAD2DFAA886D7E54@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6838404F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68384061@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3D74A94784164BC685A5C948EF3F1A3D@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF2C8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5599B90BEE2F43D5A060F37F51CFDFEA@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF314@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5FCA05DB91494215BEBA82F8977E1850@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF4B1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> See below, can anyone help? Is this a bug in the setup code? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 24 June 2013 15:30 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Julian, I'm getting a server setup at http://xerte.wyversolutions.co.uk/ Working through the process is fine, apart from when I got to http://xerte.wyversolutions.co.uk/setup/page4.php It gave the message: Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database at present. The mysql error is No database selected I had to go and edit database.php to add in the database name and hostname. But it seems to have forgotten the admin username & password I entered. Where are those stored so I can reset them? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 11:56, Julian Tenney wrote: I don?t have a sandbox I?m afraid. Could you set one up? Otherwise we could use the techDis one, but it?s not up to date, i.e. doesn?t have the new HTML5 stuff in there yet, which is really what we want to show. Otherwise people can set it up on windows using xampp, but I don?t really want to try and do that during a session, it?ll get too hectic. Have you got a handy server? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 24 June 2013 11:46 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Thanks Julian, That's great. I've added it to the page: http://www.elearningnetwork.org/events/open-source Can you confirm you'll have a sandbox site setup for people to play with? Or do I need to set one up? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 11:24, Julian Tenney wrote: Try this: Julian Tenney manages the Learning Innovation Team in Learning Technology at the University of Nottingham, and leads The Xerte Project. Julian has worked in the development of interactive learning materials for fifteen years, with a particular interest in building tools suitable for non-technical users. The Xerte Project began as a personal itch in 2004, and has grown into a highly successful open-source project with users and developers all over the world. From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 June 2013 09:30 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Julian, Yes, that would be handy. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Thursday, 20 June 2013 at 09:04, Julian Tenney wrote: Yes, you too. Do you need a biography from me? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 June 2013 09:02 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Here you go Julian: http://www.elearningnetwork.org/events/open-source I'll make sure you're on the list of attendees. No need to book in. Look forward to meeting you. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Thursday, 20 June 2013 at 08:59, Julian Tenney wrote: 30 mins sounds fine, that?s how long I usually take to demo it. You can?t author content on iPads (yet), but I can cover all that off and people can play around with some hands on stuff whatever platform they?ve got. Send me venue details and times, I?ll look forward to it, Julian From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 June 2013 08:54 To: Andy Beggan Cc: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, I'm in London on the 2nd July? perhaps we'll meet up at the East Midlands Learning Technology Group sometime. Have you got an invite to that? I'll be getting an update on attendees early next week. Although most people tend to book in at the last minute! Julian, it'll be good to have you there. Are you happy to run a 30 minute hands-on workshop with a small group? They will be rotating around a series of workshops of which yours would be one. I'm assuming there's a demo version of Xerte that can be accessed over the internet? Many people will be on iPads, so it'd be good to be able to use the new HTML5 version, if it's available? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Wednesday, 19 June 2013 at 10:36, Andy Beggan wrote: Hi Mark Apologies for not getting back to you sooner. July 3rd is fully booked I?m afraid, but I am free Tuesday afternoon on July 2? In terms of the 12th, I am now booked on another event I cannot shift. However, my colleague and lead developer for Xerte, Julian Tenney, is available. Are you able to confirm who will be attending? Many thanks Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 11 June 2013 09:05 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, Sorry for the delay in getting back. Would 3rd July work for you? Are you still OK to come to the Open Source day on 12th July and give a hands-on demo of Xerte? We're looking at running a set of 30 minute workshops, with about 8-10 people in each group, during the afternoon. So, it would just be to give a flavour for what's possible. Participants will have their own laptops, and wifi access. If hands-on won't work so well, then it could just be a straightfoward demonstration. Cheers, Mark --- Mark Berthelemy mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk www.wyversolutions.co.uk Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 On 17 May 2013, at 18:03, Andy Beggan > wrote: Hi Mark Timing is against us. I?m busy all next week and away the week after and probably playing catch up the week after that. End of June is looking okay? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 15 May 2013 17:05 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, I've just found this email. It looks like I never replied to it. I'm really sorry. Do you have any time in the next few weeks to meet up? I'm happy to come across to Nottingham if that would be easier. Wednesday afternoons are best for me, but I can be flexible if necessary. All the best, Mark --- Mark Berthelemy mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk www.wyversolutions.co.uk Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 On 28 Feb 2013, at 10:49, Andy Beggan > wrote: Hi Mark April is appraisal time and you?ve picked a slot I can?t move ?. How are you fixed end of April? Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 February 2013 18:55 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, March is pretty full for me now. How about the morning of 16th April? Mark ----- Mark Berthelemy 07922 146 761 On 20 Feb 2013, at 18:26, Andy Beggan > wrote: Hi Mark Sure, sounds good. Diaries permitting, when would you like to meet up. I have *some* availability w/c 4th March or into mid April. Regards Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 February 2013 16:16 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, That's fine. These things happen. If someone else from the team could be there that would be great. I'd still appreciate the chance to meet with you to discuss Xerte. I'm hitting a number of situations outside of the HE sector where Xerte may be an ideal solution, but I wanted to talk it through with you. All the best, Mark --- Mark Berthelemy Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 07922 146 761 Web: http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk Email: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk From: Andy Beggan > Date: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 13:19 To: Mark Berthelemy >, "andy.beggan at nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: RE: Meet up? Hi Mark Apologies, I now find myself double booked in July. There is an outside chance I will be free, so have kept this in my diary. I appreciate this isn?t good news. I will see if someone else from the team can attend as a fallback. Regards Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 18 February 2013 13:36 To: andy.beggan at nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Meet up? Hi Andy, I was wondering if, before the ELN Open Source day in July, it would be possible to meet up and have a chat about Xerte and the other work your team is doing? I can easily get to Nottingham. When would suit you? Regards, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk www.wyversolutions.co.uk 07922 146 761 Sent with Sparrow This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jun 24 15:42:06 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:42:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meet up? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF4B1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C4C2C2081@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C4C405A07@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9D6F12FD-7D34-49CC-BB65-FEB81E3CEADC@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C4C4CCFCB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8053838C-320C-4740-8FE6-89C3918C3C7A@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C51B5B7BD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383C01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5721CE6BA3F343CDBAD2DFAA886D7E54@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6838404F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68384061@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3D74A94784164BC685A5C948EF3F1A3D@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF2C8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5599B90BEE2F43D5A060F37F51CFDFEA@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF314@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5FCA05DB91494215BEBA82F8977E1850@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF4B1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I committed some code last night to add in an API tab in workspace in preparation for our fully fledged API. To make sure that I hadn?t knackered any of Pat?s code I did a fresh install from trunk and it went through without a problem? I have seen that error reported on this list or in the forum though and have had it myself (the blanks in database.php) but it?s definitely not the trunk version so if it?s a recent v2.0 zip then perhaps something that fixed the problem before wasn?t added to v2.0 branch? Seem to myself or Ron advising someone to add the details to database.php manually at step 2 before moving onto step 3? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:31 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: Meet up? See below, can anyone help? Is this a bug in the setup code? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 24 June 2013 15:30 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Julian, I'm getting a server setup at http://xerte.wyversolutions.co.uk/ Working through the process is fine, apart from when I got to http://xerte.wyversolutions.co.uk/setup/page4.php It gave the message: Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database at present. The mysql error is No database selected I had to go and edit database.php to add in the database name and hostname. But it seems to have forgotten the admin username & password I entered. Where are those stored so I can reset them? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 11:56, Julian Tenney wrote: I don?t have a sandbox I?m afraid. Could you set one up? Otherwise we could use the techDis one, but it?s not up to date, i.e. doesn?t have the new HTML5 stuff in there yet, which is really what we want to show. Otherwise people can set it up on windows using xampp, but I don?t really want to try and do that during a session, it?ll get too hectic. Have you got a handy server? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 24 June 2013 11:46 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Thanks Julian, That's great. I've added it to the page: http://www.elearningnetwork.org/events/open-source Can you confirm you'll have a sandbox site setup for people to play with? Or do I need to set one up? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 11:24, Julian Tenney wrote: Try this: Julian Tenney manages the Learning Innovation Team in Learning Technology at the University of Nottingham, and leads The Xerte Project. Julian has worked in the development of interactive learning materials for fifteen years, with a particular interest in building tools suitable for non-technical users. The Xerte Project began as a personal itch in 2004, and has grown into a highly successful open-source project with users and developers all over the world. From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 June 2013 09:30 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Julian, Yes, that would be handy. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Thursday, 20 June 2013 at 09:04, Julian Tenney wrote: Yes, you too. Do you need a biography from me? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 June 2013 09:02 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Here you go Julian: http://www.elearningnetwork.org/events/open-source I'll make sure you're on the list of attendees. No need to book in. Look forward to meeting you. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Thursday, 20 June 2013 at 08:59, Julian Tenney wrote: 30 mins sounds fine, that?s how long I usually take to demo it. You can?t author content on iPads (yet), but I can cover all that off and people can play around with some hands on stuff whatever platform they?ve got. Send me venue details and times, I?ll look forward to it, Julian From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 June 2013 08:54 To: Andy Beggan Cc: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, I'm in London on the 2nd July? perhaps we'll meet up at the East Midlands Learning Technology Group sometime. Have you got an invite to that? I'll be getting an update on attendees early next week. Although most people tend to book in at the last minute! Julian, it'll be good to have you there. Are you happy to run a 30 minute hands-on workshop with a small group? They will be rotating around a series of workshops of which yours would be one. I'm assuming there's a demo version of Xerte that can be accessed over the internet? Many people will be on iPads, so it'd be good to be able to use the new HTML5 version, if it's available? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Wednesday, 19 June 2013 at 10:36, Andy Beggan wrote: Hi Mark Apologies for not getting back to you sooner. July 3rd is fully booked I?m afraid, but I am free Tuesday afternoon on July 2? In terms of the 12th, I am now booked on another event I cannot shift. However, my colleague and lead developer for Xerte, Julian Tenney, is available. Are you able to confirm who will be attending? Many thanks Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 11 June 2013 09:05 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, Sorry for the delay in getting back. Would 3rd July work for you? Are you still OK to come to the Open Source day on 12th July and give a hands-on demo of Xerte? We're looking at running a set of 30 minute workshops, with about 8-10 people in each group, during the afternoon. So, it would just be to give a flavour for what's possible. Participants will have their own laptops, and wifi access. If hands-on won't work so well, then it could just be a straightfoward demonstration. Cheers, Mark --- Mark Berthelemy mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk www.wyversolutions.co.uk Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 On 17 May 2013, at 18:03, Andy Beggan > wrote: Hi Mark Timing is against us. I?m busy all next week and away the week after and probably playing catch up the week after that. End of June is looking okay? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 15 May 2013 17:05 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, I've just found this email. It looks like I never replied to it. I'm really sorry. Do you have any time in the next few weeks to meet up? I'm happy to come across to Nottingham if that would be easier. Wednesday afternoons are best for me, but I can be flexible if necessary. All the best, Mark --- Mark Berthelemy mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk www.wyversolutions.co.uk Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 On 28 Feb 2013, at 10:49, Andy Beggan > wrote: Hi Mark April is appraisal time and you?ve picked a slot I can?t move ?. How are you fixed end of April? Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 February 2013 18:55 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, March is pretty full for me now. How about the morning of 16th April? Mark ----- Mark Berthelemy 07922 146 761 On 20 Feb 2013, at 18:26, Andy Beggan > wrote: Hi Mark Sure, sounds good. Diaries permitting, when would you like to meet up. I have *some* availability w/c 4th March or into mid April. Regards Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 February 2013 16:16 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, That's fine. These things happen. If someone else from the team could be there that would be great. I'd still appreciate the chance to meet with you to discuss Xerte. I'm hitting a number of situations outside of the HE sector where Xerte may be an ideal solution, but I wanted to talk it through with you. All the best, Mark --- Mark Berthelemy Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 07922 146 761 Web: http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk Email: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk From: Andy Beggan > Date: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 13:19 To: Mark Berthelemy >, "andy.beggan at nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: RE: Meet up? Hi Mark Apologies, I now find myself double booked in July. There is an outside chance I will be free, so have kept this in my diary. I appreciate this isn?t good news. I will see if someone else from the team can attend as a fallback. Regards Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 18 February 2013 13:36 To: andy.beggan at nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Meet up? Hi Andy, I was wondering if, before the ELN Open Source day in July, it would be possible to meet up and have a chat about Xerte and the other work your team is doing? I can easily get to Nottingham. When would suit you? Regards, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk www.wyversolutions.co.uk 07922 146 761 Sent with Sparrow This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C4C2C2081@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383C01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5721CE6BA3F343CDBAD2DFAA886D7E54@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6838404F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68384061@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3D74A94784164BC685A5C948EF3F1A3D@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF2C8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5599B90BEE2F43D5A060F37F51CFDFEA@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF314@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5FCA05DB91494215BEBA82F8977E1850@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF4B1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51C85D59.8010202@tor.nl> We need to get rid of those installe errors. very annoying. The last user I helped had changed the auth-config.php file before running setup. Anyhow, the admin user is in the sitedetails table. You can change the columns by hand. Tom Op 24-6-2013 16:42, Smith, John schreef: > > I committed some code last night to add in an API tab in workspace in > preparation for our fully fledged API. To make sure that I hadn't > knackered any of Pat's code I did a fresh install from trunk and it > went through without a problem... > > I have seen that error reported on this list or in the forum though > and have had it myself (the blanks in database.php) but it's > definitely not the trunk version so if it's a recent v2.0 zip then > perhaps something that fixed the problem before wasn't added to v2.0 > branch... > > Seem to myself or Ron advising someone to add the details to > database.php manually at step 2 before moving onto step 3... > > Regards, > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Monday, June 24, 2013 3:31 PM > *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] FW: Meet up? > > See below, can anyone help? > > Is this a bug in the setup code? > > *From:*Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] > *Sent:* 24 June 2013 15:30 > *To:* Julian Tenney > *Subject:* Re: Meet up? > > Hi Julian, > > I'm getting a server setup at http://xerte.wyversolutions.co.uk/ > > > Working through the process is fine, apart from when I got to > http://xerte.wyversolutions.co.uk/setup/page4.php > > It gave the message: Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database > at present. The mysql error is No database selected > > I had to go and edit database.php to add in the database name and > hostname. > > But it seems to have forgotten the admin username & password I > entered. Where are those stored so I can reset them? > > Thanks, > > Mark > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 11:56, Julian Tenney wrote: > > I don't have a sandbox I'm afraid. Could you set one up? Otherwise > we could use the techDis one, but it's not up to date, i.e. > doesn't have the new HTML5 stuff in there yet, which is really > what we want to show. > > Otherwise people can set it up on windows using xampp, but I don't > really want to try and do that during a session, it'll get too > hectic. Have you got a handy server? > > *From:*Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] > *Sent:* 24 June 2013 11:46 > *To:* Julian Tenney > *Subject:* Re: Meet up? > > Thanks Julian, > > That's great. I've added it to the page: > http://www.elearningnetwork.org/events/open-source > > Can you confirm you'll have a sandbox site setup for people to > play with? Or do I need to set one up? > > Thanks, > > Mark > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 11:24, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Try this: > > Julian Tenney manages the Learning Innovation Team in Learning > Technology at the University of Nottingham, and leads The > Xerte Project. Julian has worked in the development of > interactive learning materials for fifteen years, with a > particular interest in building tools suitable for > non-technical users. The Xerte Project began as a personal > itch in 2004, and has grown into a highly successful > open-source project with users and developers all over the world. > > *From:*Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] > *Sent:* 20 June 2013 09:30 > *To:* Julian Tenney > *Subject:* Re: Meet up? > > Hi Julian, > > Yes, that would be handy. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > On Thursday, 20 June 2013 at 09:04, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Yes, you too. Do you need a biography from me? > > *From:*Mark Berthelemy > [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] > *Sent:* 20 June 2013 09:02 > *To:* Julian Tenney > *Subject:* Re: Meet up? > > Here you go Julian: > http://www.elearningnetwork.org/events/open-source > > I'll make sure you're on the list of attendees. No need to > book in. > > Look forward to meeting you. > > Mark > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > On Thursday, 20 June 2013 at 08:59, Julian Tenney wrote: > > 30 mins sounds fine, that's how long I usually take to > demo it. You can't author content on iPads (yet), but > I can cover all that off and people can play around > with some hands on stuff whatever platform they've got. > > Send me venue details and times, I'll look forward to it, > > Julian > > *From:*Mark Berthelemy > [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] > *Sent:* 20 June 2013 08:54 > *To:* Andy Beggan > *Cc:* Julian Tenney > *Subject:* Re: Meet up? > > Hi Andy, > > I'm in London on the 2nd July... perhaps we'll meet up > at the East Midlands Learning Technology Group > sometime. Have you got an invite to that? > > I'll be getting an update on attendees early next > week. Although most people tend to book in at the last > minute! > > Julian, it'll be good to have you there. Are you happy > to run a 30 minute hands-on workshop with a small > group? They will be rotating around a series of > workshops of which yours would be one. I'm assuming > there's a demo version of Xerte that can be accessed > over the internet? Many people will be on iPads, so > it'd be good to be able to use the new HTML5 version, > if it's available? > > Mark > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > On Wednesday, 19 June 2013 at 10:36, Andy Beggan wrote: > > Hi Mark > > Apologies for not getting back to you sooner. July > 3^rd is fully booked I'm afraid, but I am free > Tuesday afternoon on July 2? > > In terms of the 12^th , I am now booked on another > event I cannot shift. However, my colleague and > lead developer for Xerte, Julian Tenney, is > available. Are you able to confirm who will be > attending? > > Many thanks > > Andy > > // > > *From:*Mark Berthelemy > [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] > *Sent:* 11 June 2013 09:05 > *To:* Andy Beggan > *Subject:* Re: Meet up? > > Hi Andy, > > Sorry for the delay in getting back. > > Would 3rd July work for you? > > Are you still OK to come to the Open Source day on > 12th July and give a hands-on demo of Xerte? > > We're looking at running a set of 30 minute > workshops, with about 8-10 people in each group, > during the afternoon. So, it would just be to give > a flavour for what's possible. Participants will > have their own laptops, and wifi access. If > hands-on won't work so well, then it could just be > a straightfoward demonstration. > > Cheers, > > Mark > > --- > > Mark Berthelemy > > mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk > > > www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > On 17 May 2013, at 18:03, Andy Beggan > > wrote: > > Hi Mark > > Timing is against us. I'm busy all next week and > away the week after and probably playing catch up > the week after that. End of June is looking okay? > > *From:* Mark Berthelemy > [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk > ] > *Sent:* 15 May 2013 17:05 > *To:* Andy Beggan > *Subject:* Re: Meet up? > > Hi Andy, > > I've just found this email. It looks like I never > replied to it. I'm really sorry. > > Do you have any time in the next few weeks to meet > up? I'm happy to come across to Nottingham if that > would be easier. Wednesday afternoons are best for > me, but I can be flexible if necessary. > > All the best, > > Mark > > --- > > Mark Berthelemy > > mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk > > > www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > On 28 Feb 2013, at 10:49, Andy Beggan > > wrote: > > Hi Mark > > April is appraisal time and you've picked a slot I > can't move L. How are you fixed end of April? > > Andy > > *From:* Mark Berthelemy > [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk > ] > *Sent:* 20 February 2013 18:55 > *To:* Andy Beggan > *Subject:* Re: Meet up? > > Hi Andy, > > March is pretty full for me now. How about the > morning of 16th April? > > Mark > > ----- > > Mark Berthelemy > > 07922 146 761 > > > On 20 Feb 2013, at 18:26, Andy Beggan > > wrote: > > Hi Mark > > Sure, sounds good. Diaries permitting, when > would you like to meet up. I have **some** > availability w/c 4^th March or into mid April. > > Regards > > Andy > > *From:* Mark Berthelemy > [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] > *Sent:* 20 February 2013 16:16 > *To:* Andy Beggan > *Subject:* Re: Meet up? > > Hi Andy, > > That's fine. These things happen. If someone > else from the team could be there that would > be great. > > I'd still appreciate the chance to meet with > you to discuss Xerte. I'm hitting a number of > situations outside of the HE sector where > Xerte may be an ideal solution, but I wanted > to talk it through with you. > > All the best, > > Mark > > --- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 07922 146 761 > > Web: http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > Email: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk > > > *From: *Andy Beggan > > > *Date: *Wednesday, 20 February 2013 13:19 > *To: *Mark Berthelemy > >, > "andy.beggan at nottingham.ac.uk > " > > > *Subject: *RE: Meet up? > > Hi Mark > > Apologies, I now find myself double booked in > July. There is an outside chance I will be > free, so have kept this in my diary. I > appreciate this isn't good news. I will see if > someone else from the team can attend as a > fallback. > > Regards > > Andy > > *From:* Mark Berthelemy > [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] > *Sent:* 18 February 2013 13:36 > *To:* andy.beggan at nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* Meet up? > > Hi Andy, > > I was wondering if, before the ELN Open Source > day in July, it would be possible to meet up > and have a chat about Xerte and the other work > your team is doing? > > I can easily get to Nottingham. When would > suit you? > > Regards, > > Mark > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk > > > www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > 07922 146 761 > > Sent with Sparrow > > > This message and any attachment are intended > solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received > this message in error, please send it back to me, > and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. 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In-Reply-To: <51C85D59.8010202@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C4C2C2081@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383C01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5721CE6BA3F343CDBAD2DFAA886D7E54@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6838404F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68384061@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3D74A94784164BC685A5C948EF3F1A3D@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF2C8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5599B90BEE2F43D5A060F37F51CFDFEA@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF314@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5FCA05DB91494215BEBA82F8977E1850@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF4B1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51C85D59.8010202@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF4F7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> cheers From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 June 2013 15:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meet up? We need to get rid of those installe errors. very annoying. The last user I helped had changed the auth-config.php file before running setup. Anyhow, the admin user is in the sitedetails table. You can change the columns by hand. Tom Op 24-6-2013 16:42, Smith, John schreef: I committed some code last night to add in an API tab in workspace in preparation for our fully fledged API. To make sure that I hadn't knackered any of Pat's code I did a fresh install from trunk and it went through without a problem... I have seen that error reported on this list or in the forum though and have had it myself (the blanks in database.php) but it's definitely not the trunk version so if it's a recent v2.0 zip then perhaps something that fixed the problem before wasn't added to v2.0 branch... Seem to myself or Ron advising someone to add the details to database.php manually at step 2 before moving onto step 3... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:31 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: Meet up? See below, can anyone help? Is this a bug in the setup code? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 24 June 2013 15:30 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Julian, I'm getting a server setup at http://xerte.wyversolutions.co.uk/ Working through the process is fine, apart from when I got to http://xerte.wyversolutions.co.uk/setup/page4.php It gave the message: Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database at present. The mysql error is No database selected I had to go and edit database.php to add in the database name and hostname. But it seems to have forgotten the admin username & password I entered. Where are those stored so I can reset them? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 11:56, Julian Tenney wrote: I don't have a sandbox I'm afraid. Could you set one up? Otherwise we could use the techDis one, but it's not up to date, i.e. doesn't have the new HTML5 stuff in there yet, which is really what we want to show. Otherwise people can set it up on windows using xampp, but I don't really want to try and do that during a session, it'll get too hectic. Have you got a handy server? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 24 June 2013 11:46 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Thanks Julian, That's great. I've added it to the page: http://www.elearningnetwork.org/events/open-source Can you confirm you'll have a sandbox site setup for people to play with? Or do I need to set one up? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 11:24, Julian Tenney wrote: Try this: Julian Tenney manages the Learning Innovation Team in Learning Technology at the University of Nottingham, and leads The Xerte Project. Julian has worked in the development of interactive learning materials for fifteen years, with a particular interest in building tools suitable for non-technical users. The Xerte Project began as a personal itch in 2004, and has grown into a highly successful open-source project with users and developers all over the world. From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 June 2013 09:30 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Julian, Yes, that would be handy. Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Thursday, 20 June 2013 at 09:04, Julian Tenney wrote: Yes, you too. Do you need a biography from me? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 June 2013 09:02 To: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Here you go Julian: http://www.elearningnetwork.org/events/open-source I'll make sure you're on the list of attendees. No need to book in. Look forward to meeting you. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Thursday, 20 June 2013 at 08:59, Julian Tenney wrote: 30 mins sounds fine, that's how long I usually take to demo it. You can't author content on iPads (yet), but I can cover all that off and people can play around with some hands on stuff whatever platform they've got. Send me venue details and times, I'll look forward to it, Julian From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 June 2013 08:54 To: Andy Beggan Cc: Julian Tenney Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, I'm in London on the 2nd July... perhaps we'll meet up at the East Midlands Learning Technology Group sometime. Have you got an invite to that? I'll be getting an update on attendees early next week. Although most people tend to book in at the last minute! Julian, it'll be good to have you there. Are you happy to run a 30 minute hands-on workshop with a small group? They will be rotating around a series of workshops of which yours would be one. I'm assuming there's a demo version of Xerte that can be accessed over the internet? Many people will be on iPads, so it'd be good to be able to use the new HTML5 version, if it's available? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Wednesday, 19 June 2013 at 10:36, Andy Beggan wrote: Hi Mark Apologies for not getting back to you sooner. July 3rd is fully booked I'm afraid, but I am free Tuesday afternoon on July 2? In terms of the 12th, I am now booked on another event I cannot shift. However, my colleague and lead developer for Xerte, Julian Tenney, is available. Are you able to confirm who will be attending? Many thanks Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 11 June 2013 09:05 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, Sorry for the delay in getting back. Would 3rd July work for you? Are you still OK to come to the Open Source day on 12th July and give a hands-on demo of Xerte? We're looking at running a set of 30 minute workshops, with about 8-10 people in each group, during the afternoon. So, it would just be to give a flavour for what's possible. Participants will have their own laptops, and wifi access. If hands-on won't work so well, then it could just be a straightfoward demonstration. Cheers, Mark --- Mark Berthelemy mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk www.wyversolutions.co.uk Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 On 17 May 2013, at 18:03, Andy Beggan > wrote: Hi Mark Timing is against us. I'm busy all next week and away the week after and probably playing catch up the week after that. End of June is looking okay? From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 15 May 2013 17:05 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, I've just found this email. It looks like I never replied to it. I'm really sorry. Do you have any time in the next few weeks to meet up? I'm happy to come across to Nottingham if that would be easier. Wednesday afternoons are best for me, but I can be flexible if necessary. All the best, Mark --- Mark Berthelemy mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk www.wyversolutions.co.uk Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 On 28 Feb 2013, at 10:49, Andy Beggan > wrote: Hi Mark April is appraisal time and you've picked a slot I can't move :(. How are you fixed end of April? Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 February 2013 18:55 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, March is pretty full for me now. How about the morning of 16th April? Mark ----- Mark Berthelemy 07922 146 761 On 20 Feb 2013, at 18:26, Andy Beggan > wrote: Hi Mark Sure, sounds good. Diaries permitting, when would you like to meet up. I have *some* availability w/c 4th March or into mid April. Regards Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 20 February 2013 16:16 To: Andy Beggan Subject: Re: Meet up? Hi Andy, That's fine. These things happen. If someone else from the team could be there that would be great. I'd still appreciate the chance to meet with you to discuss Xerte. I'm hitting a number of situations outside of the HE sector where Xerte may be an ideal solution, but I wanted to talk it through with you. All the best, Mark --- Mark Berthelemy Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 07922 146 761 Web: http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk Email: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk From: Andy Beggan > Date: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 13:19 To: Mark Berthelemy >, "andy.beggan at nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: RE: Meet up? Hi Mark Apologies, I now find myself double booked in July. There is an outside chance I will be free, so have kept this in my diary. I appreciate this isn't good news. I will see if someone else from the team can attend as a fallback. Regards Andy From: Mark Berthelemy [mailto:mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 18 February 2013 13:36 To: andy.beggan at nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Meet up? Hi Andy, I was wondering if, before the ELN Open Source day in July, it would be possible to meet up and have a chat about Xerte and the other work your team is doing? I can easily get to Nottingham. When would suit you? Regards, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk www.wyversolutions.co.uk 07922 146 761 Sent with Sparrow This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <51C85D59.8010202@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C4C2C2081@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383C01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <5721CE6BA3F343CDBAD2DFAA886D7E54@wyversolutions.co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6838404F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68384061@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <3D74A94784164BC685A5C948EF3F1A3D@wyversolutions.co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF2C8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <5599B90BEE2F43D5A060F37F51CFDFEA@wyversolutions.co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF314@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <5FCA05DB91494215BEBA82F8977E1850@wyversolutions.co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF4B1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <51C85D59.8010202@tor.nl> Message-ID: Tom, was that Jason Bardell? I told him to comment out exit; in auth-config to make sure that was where it was failing.He replied he had sorted it. Dave Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:53:13 +0200 From: reijnders at tor.nl To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meet up? We need to get rid of those installe errors. very annoying. The last user I helped had changed the auth-config.php file before running setup. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jun 24 16:22:29 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:22:29 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meet up? In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C4C2C2081@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68383C01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <5721CE6BA3F343CDBAD2DFAA886D7E54@wyversolutions.co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6838404F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C68384061@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <3D74A94784164BC685A5C948EF3F1A3D@wyversolutions.co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF2C8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <5599B90BEE2F43D5A060F37F51CFDFEA@wyversolutions.co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF314@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <5FCA05DB91494215BEBA82F8977E1850@wyversolutions.co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FF4B1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <51C85D59.8010202@tor.nl> Message-ID: <51C86435.8060409@tor.nl> No, that was someone where in the end I did the install. It took me quite a while to figure out what the issue was. Tom Op 24-6-2013 17:03, Dave Burnett schreef: > > Tom, was that Jason Bardell? > > I told him to comment out exit; in auth-config to make sure that was > where it was failing. > He replied he had sorted it. > > Dave > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:53:13 +0200 > From: reijnders at tor.nl > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meet up? > > We need to get rid of those installe errors. very annoying. > > The last user I helped had changed the auth-config.php file before > running setup. > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 24 June 2013 16:37 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems installing Xerte Hi all, Thanks for the help already provided today as I try to install Xerte 2.0. I've got the site installed, with a database, but when I went to the sitedetails table to re-enter the admin username and password (which aren't accepted on management.php), I discovered that every entry in the table is NULL. Is there a quick way to rebuild this, or do I need to start again with the install? What would you suggest I do differently during the install process to make sure this doesn't repeat? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If it fails at the last step use the back button and then check/edit database.php before re-submitting. > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 24 June 2013 16:37 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems installing Xerte > > Hi all, > > > > Thanks for the help already provided today as I try to install Xerte 2.0. > > > > I've got the site installed, with a database, but when I went to the sitedetails table to re-enter the admin username and password (which aren't accepted on management.php), I discovered that every entry in the table is NULL. > > > > Is there a quick way to rebuild this, or do I need to start again with the install? > > > > What would you suggest I do differently during the install process to make sure this doesn't repeat? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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All the tests worked OK, and I created the db and user beforehand as you do. > > Fingers crossed! > > Mark > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > Tel: 01773 318 962 > Mob: 07922 146 761 > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:51, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > I think you'll need to drop the database and start again. Did each test work correctly esepecially permissions so that database.txt and then database.php gets written? > > Personally I always create the empty database and mysql user first and then use those details and credentials when running setup. If it fails at the last step use the back button and then check/edit database.php before re-submitting. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > Sent: 24 June 2013 16:37 > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems installing Xerte > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the help already provided today as I try to install Xerte 2.0. > > > > > > > > I've got the site installed, with a database, but when I went to the sitedetails table to re-enter the admin username and password (which aren't accepted on management.php), I discovered that every entry in the table is NULL. > > > > > > > > Is there a quick way to rebuild this, or do I need to start again with the install? > > > > > > > > What would you suggest I do differently during the install process to make sure this doesn't repeat? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:51, Ron Mitchell wrote: I think you'll need to drop the database and start again. Did each test work correctly esepecially permissions so that database.txt and then database.php gets written? Personally I always create the empty database and mysql user first and then use those details and credentials when running setup. If it fails at the last step use the back button and then check/edit database.php before re-submitting. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 24 June 2013 16:37 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems installing Xerte Hi all, Thanks for the help already provided today as I try to install Xerte 2.0. I've got the site installed, with a database, but when I went to the sitedetails table to re-enter the admin username and password (which aren't accepted on management.php), I discovered that every entry in the table is NULL. Is there a quick way to rebuild this, or do I need to start again with the install? What would you suggest I do differently during the install process to make sure this doesn't repeat? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Mon Jun 24 21:17:34 2013 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:17:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems installing Xerte In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F2ACD07B75F48B0902BA4A177317646@wyversolutions.co.uk> Hi John, I'm not entirely sure. The only thing I can think is that, the first time, I might have allowed Xerte to create the database, rather than pre-create it. I also changed some of the text fields in the configuration screen that comes up during install (eg. site name, nothing that would affect the DB) Not sure what happened 2nd time around. Sorry I can't help more than that. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 19:57, Smith, John wrote: > Thanks for letting us know Mark. Out of interest, what did you do differently the 3rd time around that made it work? > > It might give us a heads up as to why it didn't work the first 2 times and what we can do to prevent that in future. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Mark Berthelemy wrote: > > > Hi Ron, > > All working fine now. > > Thanks. > > Mark > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > Tel: 01773 318 962 > Mob: 07922 146 761 > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:55, Mark Berthelemy wrote: > > Thanks Ron, > > I'll try again. I'm on my 3rd database already? All the tests worked OK, and I created the db and user beforehand as you do. > > Fingers crossed! > > Mark > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > Tel: 01773 318 962 > Mob: 07922 146 761 > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:51, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > I think you'll need to drop the database and start again. Did each test work correctly esepecially permissions so that database.txt and then database.php gets written? > > Personally I always create the empty database and mysql user first and then use those details and credentials when running setup. If it fails at the last step use the back button and then check/edit database.php before re-submitting. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 24 June 2013 16:37 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems installing Xerte > > > > Hi all, > > > > Thanks for the help already provided today as I try to install Xerte 2.0. > > > > I've got the site installed, with a database, but when I went to the sitedetails table to re-enter the admin username and password (which aren't accepted on management.php), I discovered that every entry in the table is NULL. > > > > Is there a quick way to rebuild this, or do I need to start again with the install? > > > > What would you suggest I do differently during the install process to make sure this doesn't repeat? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jun 24 22:28:17 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:28:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems installing Xerte In-Reply-To: <4F2ACD07B75F48B0902BA4A177317646@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: , <4F2ACD07B75F48B0902BA4A177317646@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Mark, that gives us some things to try. Glad you got your install working! Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy [mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] Sent: 24 June 2013 21:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems installing Xerte Hi John, I'm not entirely sure. The only thing I can think is that, the first time, I might have allowed Xerte to create the database, rather than pre-create it. I also changed some of the text fields in the configuration screen that comes up during install (eg. site name, nothing that would affect the DB) Not sure what happened 2nd time around. Sorry I can't help more than that. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 19:57, Smith, John wrote: Thanks for letting us know Mark. Out of interest, what did you do differently the 3rd time around that made it work? It might give us a heads up as to why it didn't work the first 2 times and what we can do to prevent that in future. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Mark Berthelemy > wrote: Hi Ron, All working fine now. Thanks. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:55, Mark Berthelemy wrote: Thanks Ron, I'll try again. I'm on my 3rd database already? All the tests worked OK, and I created the db and user beforehand as you do. Fingers crossed! Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:51, Ron Mitchell wrote: I think you'll need to drop the database and start again. Did each test work correctly esepecially permissions so that database.txt and then database.php gets written? Personally I always create the empty database and mysql user first and then use those details and credentials when running setup. If it fails at the last step use the back button and then check/edit database.php before re-submitting. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 24 June 2013 16:37 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems installing Xerte Hi all, Thanks for the help already provided today as I try to install Xerte 2.0. I've got the site installed, with a database, but when I went to the sitedetails table to re-enter the admin username and password (which aren't accepted on management.php), I discovered that every entry in the table is NULL. Is there a quick way to rebuild this, or do I need to start again with the install? What would you suggest I do differently during the install process to make sure this doesn't repeat? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jun 25 08:33:42 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:33:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems installing Xerte In-Reply-To: <4F2ACD07B75F48B0902BA4A177317646@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: <4F2ACD07B75F48B0902BA4A177317646@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: I think creating the database yourself might scupper it On 24 Jun 2013, at 21:17, Mark Berthelemy wrote: > Hi John, > > I'm not entirely sure. > > The only thing I can think is that, the first time, I might have allowed Xerte to create the database, rather than pre-create it. > > I also changed some of the text fields in the configuration screen that comes up during install (eg. site name, nothing that would affect the DB) > > Not sure what happened 2nd time around. > > Sorry I can't help more than that. > > Mark > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > Tel: 01773 318 962 > Mob: 07922 146 761 > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 19:57, Smith, John wrote: > >> Thanks for letting us know Mark. Out of interest, what did you do differently the 3rd time around that made it work? >> >> It might give us a heads up as to why it didn't work the first 2 times and what we can do to prevent that in future. >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Mark Berthelemy wrote: >> >> >> Hi Ron, >> >> All working fine now. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> Mark Berthelemy >> Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd >> Tel: 01773 318 962 >> Mob: 07922 146 761 >> Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk >> >> >> On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:55, Mark Berthelemy wrote: >> >> Thanks Ron, >> >> I'll try again. I'm on my 3rd database already? All the tests worked OK, and I created the db and user beforehand as you do. >> >> Fingers crossed! >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> Mark Berthelemy >> Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd >> Tel: 01773 318 962 >> Mob: 07922 146 761 >> Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk >> >> >> On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:51, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> I think you'll need to drop the database and start again. Did each test work correctly esepecially permissions so that database.txt and then database.php gets written? >> >> Personally I always create the empty database and mysql user first and then use those details and credentials when running setup. If it fails at the last step use the back button and then check/edit database.php before re-submitting. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy >> Sent: 24 June 2013 16:37 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems installing Xerte >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Thanks for the help already provided today as I try to install Xerte 2.0. >> >> >> >> I've got the site installed, with a database, but when I went to the sitedetails table to re-enter the admin username and password (which aren't accepted on management.php), I discovered that every entry in the table is NULL. >> >> >> >> Is there a quick way to rebuild this, or do I need to start again with the install? >> >> >> >> What would you suggest I do differently during the install process to make sure this doesn't repeat? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Mark Berthelemy >> >> Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd >> >> Tel: 01773 318 962 >> >> Mob: 07922 146 761 >> >> Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jun 25 08:35:43 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:35:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems installing Xerte In-Reply-To: References: <4F2ACD07B75F48B0902BA4A177317646@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <7496355A-FF59-4919-8CE4-E5E34382FD57@pgogywebstuff.com> I think that the writing to root is the problem - maybe move database.txt into the root so it doesn't need to be created? On 24 Jun 2013, at 22:28, "Smith, John" wrote: > Thanks Mark, that gives us some things to try. Glad you got your install working! > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy [mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] > Sent: 24 June 2013 21:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems installing Xerte > > Hi John, > > I'm not entirely sure. > > The only thing I can think is that, the first time, I might have allowed Xerte to create the database, rather than pre-create it. > > I also changed some of the text fields in the configuration screen that comes up during install (eg. site name, nothing that would affect the DB) > > Not sure what happened 2nd time around. > > Sorry I can't help more than that. > > Mark > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > Tel: 01773 318 962 > Mob: 07922 146 761 > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 19:57, Smith, John wrote: > > Thanks for letting us know Mark. Out of interest, what did you do differently the 3rd time around that made it work? > > It might give us a heads up as to why it didn't work the first 2 times and what we can do to prevent that in future. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Mark Berthelemy > wrote: > > > Hi Ron, > > All working fine now. > > Thanks. > > Mark > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > Tel: 01773 318 962 > Mob: 07922 146 761 > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:55, Mark Berthelemy wrote: > > Thanks Ron, > > I'll try again. I'm on my 3rd database already? All the tests worked OK, and I created the db and user beforehand as you do. > > Fingers crossed! > > Mark > > -- > Mark Berthelemy > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > Tel: 01773 318 962 > Mob: 07922 146 761 > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:51, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > I think you'll need to drop the database and start again. Did each test work correctly esepecially permissions so that database.txt and then database.php gets written? > > Personally I always create the empty database and mysql user first and then use those details and credentials when running setup. If it fails at the last step use the back button and then check/edit database.php before re-submitting. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 24 June 2013 16:37 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems installing Xerte > > > > Hi all, > > > > Thanks for the help already provided today as I try to install Xerte 2.0. > > > > I've got the site installed, with a database, but when I went to the sitedetails table to re-enter the admin username and password (which aren't accepted on management.php), I discovered that every entry in the table is NULL. > > > > Is there a quick way to rebuild this, or do I need to start again with the install? > > > > What would you suggest I do differently during the install process to make sure this doesn't repeat? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jun 25 08:37:55 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:37:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Message-ID: <976CDC95-4BBA-444E-8531-D4F0FF1C723A@pgogywebstuff.com> Hello. On export you can tick both boxes? Might confuse? From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 25 08:43:17 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:43:17 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems installing Xerte In-Reply-To: <7496355A-FF59-4919-8CE4-E5E34382FD57@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <4F2ACD07B75F48B0902BA4A177317646@wyversolutions.co.uk> <7496355A-FF59-4919-8CE4-E5E34382FD57@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <51C94A15.2080600@tor.nl> database.txt is not modified anymore. That caused too many issues when the install was restarted. However, database.php is created in the root. If we supply an empty database.php, some checks should change. Tom Op 25-6-2013 9:35, Pat @ Pgogy schreef: > I think that the writing to root is the problem - maybe move database.txt into the root so it doesn't need to be created? > > On 24 Jun 2013, at 22:28, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Thanks Mark, that gives us some things to try. Glad you got your install working! >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University >> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy [mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk] >> Sent: 24 June 2013 21:17 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems installing Xerte >> >> Hi John, >> >> I'm not entirely sure. >> >> The only thing I can think is that, the first time, I might have allowed Xerte to create the database, rather than pre-create it. >> >> I also changed some of the text fields in the configuration screen that comes up during install (eg. site name, nothing that would affect the DB) >> >> Not sure what happened 2nd time around. >> >> Sorry I can't help more than that. >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> Mark Berthelemy >> Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd >> Tel: 01773 318 962 >> Mob: 07922 146 761 >> Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk >> >> >> On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 19:57, Smith, John wrote: >> >> Thanks for letting us know Mark. Out of interest, what did you do differently the 3rd time around that made it work? >> >> It might give us a heads up as to why it didn't work the first 2 times and what we can do to prevent that in future. >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Mark Berthelemy > wrote: >> >> >> Hi Ron, >> >> All working fine now. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> Mark Berthelemy >> Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd >> Tel: 01773 318 962 >> Mob: 07922 146 761 >> Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk >> >> >> On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:55, Mark Berthelemy wrote: >> >> Thanks Ron, >> >> I'll try again. I'm on my 3rd database already? All the tests worked OK, and I created the db and user beforehand as you do. >> >> Fingers crossed! >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> Mark Berthelemy >> Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd >> Tel: 01773 318 962 >> Mob: 07922 146 761 >> Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk >> >> >> On Monday, 24 June 2013 at 16:51, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> I think you'll need to drop the database and start again. Did each test work correctly esepecially permissions so that database.txt and then database.php gets written? >> >> Personally I always create the empty database and mysql user first and then use those details and credentials when running setup. If it fails at the last step use the back button and then check/edit database.php before re-submitting. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy >> Sent: 24 June 2013 16:37 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems installing Xerte >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Thanks for the help already provided today as I try to install Xerte 2.0. >> >> >> >> I've got the site installed, with a database, but when I went to the sitedetails table to re-enter the admin username and password (which aren't accepted on management.php), I discovered that every entry in the table is NULL. >> >> >> >> Is there a quick way to rebuild this, or do I need to start again with the install? >> >> >> >> What would you suggest I do differently during the install process to make sure this doesn't repeat? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Mark Berthelemy >> >> Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd >> >> Tel: 01773 318 962 >> >> Mob: 07922 146 761 >> >> Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 25 08:44:30 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:44:30 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export In-Reply-To: <976CDC95-4BBA-444E-8531-D4F0FF1C723A@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <976CDC95-4BBA-444E-8531-D4F0FF1C723A@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <51C94A5E.8030507@tor.nl> Yes, it might. But both engines are exported and two html files are generated. So it really does something different than with just 1 checkbox. If it is too confusing, we should consider to modity that. Tom Op 25-6-2013 9:37, Pat @ Pgogy schreef: > Hello. > > On export you can tick both boxes? > > Might confuse? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Jun 25 08:52:46 2013 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:52:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export In-Reply-To: <51C94A5E.8030507@tor.nl> References: <976CDC95-4BBA-444E-8531-D4F0FF1C723A@pgogywebstuff.com> <51C94A5E.8030507@tor.nl> Message-ID: <005101ce7178$fc5cd6c0$f5168440$@co.uk> I don't think it's confusing and works well. Plenty of people want both export formats so the only alternative I think would be to just export both anyway. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 25 June 2013 08:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Yes, it might. But both engines are exported and two html files are generated. So it really does something different than with just 1 checkbox. If it is too confusing, we should consider to modity that. Tom Op 25-6-2013 9:37, Pat @ Pgogy schreef: > Hello. > > On export you can tick both boxes? > > Might confuse? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jun 25 09:14:09 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:14:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export In-Reply-To: <51C94A5E.8030507@tor.nl> References: <976CDC95-4BBA-444E-8531-D4F0FF1C723A@pgogywebstuff.com> <51C94A5E.8030507@tor.nl> Message-ID: Ah ok, I assumed it would toggle - did an impromptu training session and thought it would. If you export both how do you toggle? On 25 Jun 2013, at 08:44, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Yes, it might. But both engines are exported and two html files are generated. So it really does something different than with just 1 checkbox. If it is too confusing, we should consider to modity that. > > Tom > > > Op 25-6-2013 9:37, Pat @ Pgogy schreef: >> Hello. >> >> On export you can tick both boxes? >> >> Might confuse? >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 25 10:25:10 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:25:10 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export In-Reply-To: References: <976CDC95-4BBA-444E-8531-D4F0FF1C723A@pgogywebstuff.com> <51C94A5E.8030507@tor.nl> Message-ID: There are two index htm files. Don't know the names by heart. "Pat @ Pgogy " schreef: >Ah ok, I assumed it would toggle - did an impromptu training session >and thought it would. > >If you export both how do you toggle? > >On 25 Jun 2013, at 08:44, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> Yes, it might. But both engines are exported and two html files are >generated. So it really does something different than with just 1 >checkbox. If it is too confusing, we should consider to modity that. >> >> Tom >> >> >> Op 25-6-2013 9:37, Pat @ Pgogy schreef: >>> Hello. >>> >>> On export you can tick both boxes? >>> >>> Might confuse? >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >immediately delete it. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [cid:image001.png at 01CE7248.CBDA0D80] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algebra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I've not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here's how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now displayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? John Horton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll have a look, but I'll have to look for it... ...I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [cid:image001.png at 01CE724F.354F5EE0] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algebra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I've not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here's how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now displayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? John Horton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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John is in my team, he's just shown me the problem: `e=mc^2' On the first time you see it, it's OK: subsequent visits to the page, and it doesn't render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and had to call the typesetting manually: MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put this? I'll have a look, but I'll have to look for it... ...I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [cid:image001.png at 01CE7250.3D0FF850] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algebra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I've not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here's how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now displayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? John Horton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there anything I can do to help? > >From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton >Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 >To: Xerte discussion list >Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > >From: >xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >Reijnders >Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 >To: Xerte discussion list >Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > >The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. >I'll give it another go to try and fix this. > >In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 >have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your >disposal you can do the same with: > > >`Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` > >This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but >then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that >now. > >[cid:image001.png at 01CE7248.CBDA0D80] > >Hello, > >A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in >Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now >display algebra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. >Although I've not read all the correspondence about backslashes and >losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be >related (even if only superficially). > >Here's how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the >question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main >flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed >correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that >the algebra is now displayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. >E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. > >Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? > >John Horton > > >This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the >author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >University of Nottingham. > > > >This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >attachment > >may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Xerte-dev mailing list >Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 26 09:50:27 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 09:50:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: <59378a5d-58b2-4ddb-ba39-c1f39a622aef@email.android.com> References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB75@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <59378a5d-58b2-4ddb-ba39-c1f39a622aef@email.android.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, cool From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 09:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script This was an old message bring quoted. It's fixed now (by not always running stripslashes) Julian Tenney > schreef: > The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion li st Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have b een enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [content://com.fsck.k9.attachmentprovider/4ddf1f7b-d679-455f-9007-a45b4136c56b/529/RAW] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algebra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I?ve not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (eve n if only superficially). Here?s how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now displayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? John Horton ________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Jun 26 09:51:00 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:51:00 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> Correct, and I fixed this one as well I think, in models_html5/quiz.html Julian Tenney schreef: >Ah. John is in my team, he's just shown me the problem: > >`e=mc^2' > >On the first time you see it, it's OK: subsequent visits to the page, >and it doesn't render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and >had to call the typesetting manually: > >MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); > >After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put >this? I'll have a look, but I'll have to look for it... > >...I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? > >From: Tenney Julian >Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 >To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) >Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > >> The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known >issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. > >What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? > >From: >xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton >Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 >To: Xerte discussion list >Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > >From: >xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >Reijnders >Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 >To: Xerte discussion list >Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > >The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. >I'll give it another go to try and fix this. > >In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 >have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your >disposal you can do the same with: > > >`Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` > >This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but >then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that >now. > >[cid:image001.png at 01CE724F.354F5EE0] > >Hello, > >A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in >Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now >display algebra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. >Although I've not read all the correspondence about backslashes and >losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be >related (even if only superficially). > >Here's how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the >question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main >flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed >correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that >the algebra is now displayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. >E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. > >Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? > >John Horton > > >This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the >author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >University of Nottingham. > > > >This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >attachment > >may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 26 09:52:14 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 09:52:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBCE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Does it need fixing on other subpages ? navigators? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 09:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Correct, and I fixed this one as well I think, in models_html5/quiz.html Julian Tenney > schreef: Ah. John is in my team, he?s just shown me the problem: `e=mc^2? On the first time you see it, it?s OK: subsequent visits to the page, and it doesn?t render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and had to call the typesetting manually: MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put this? I?ll have a look, but I?ll have to look for it? ?I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [content://com.fsck.k9.attachmentprovider/4ddf1f7b-d679-455f-9007-a45b4136c56b/531/RAW] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algeb ra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I?ve not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here?s how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now displayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? < /p> John Horton ________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Jun 26 10:07:54 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:07:54 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBCE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBCE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yes I think so, but I never got the time to verify. Julian Tenney schreef: >Does it need fixing on other subpages ? navigators? > >From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >Reijnders >Sent: 26 June 2013 09:51 >To: For Xerte technical developers >Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > >Correct, and I fixed this one as well I think, in >models_html5/quiz.html >Julian Tenney >> >schreef: >Ah. John is in my team, he?s just shown me the problem: > > >`e=mc^2? > > >On the first time you see it, it?s OK: subsequent visits to the page, >and it doesn?t render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and >had to call the typesetting manually: > > >MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); > > >After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put >this? I?ll have a look, but I?ll have to look for it? > > >?I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? > > >From: Tenney Julian >Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 >To: For Xerte technical developers >(xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) >Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > > >> The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known >issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. > > >What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? > > >From: >xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton >Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 >To: Xerte discussion list >Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > > >From: >xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >Reijnders >Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 >To: Xerte discussion list >Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > > > >The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. >I'll give it another go to try and fix this. > >In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 >have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your >disposal you can do the same with: > > >`Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` > >This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but >then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that >now. > >[content://com.fsck.k9.attachmentprovider/4ddf1f7b-d679-455f-9007-a45b4136c56b/531/RAW] > >Hello, > > >A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in >Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now >display algeb ra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. >Although I?ve not read all the correspondence about backslashes and >losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be >related (even if only superficially). > > >Here?s how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the >question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main >flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed >correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that >the algebra is now displayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. >E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. > > >Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? >< /p> > > >John Horton > > > >________________________________ > >Xerte-dev mailing list >Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > >-- >Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Xerte-dev mailing list >Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 26 10:11:02 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:11:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBCE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> We?ll have a look, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Yes I think so, but I never got the time to verify. Julian Tenney > schreef: Does it need fixing on other subpages ? navigators? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 09:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Correct, and I fixed this one as well I think, in models_html5/quiz.html Julian Tenney > schreef: Ah. John is in my team, he?s just shown me the problem: `e=mc^2? On the first time you see it, it?s OK: subsequent visits to the page, and it doesn?t render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and had to call the typesetting manually: MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put this? I?ll have a look, but I?ll have to look for it? ?I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > T he fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [content://com.fsck.k9.attachmentprovider/4ddf1f7b-d679-455f-9007-a45b4136c56b/531/RAW] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algeb ra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I?ve not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here?s how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now di splayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? < /p> John Horton ________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 26 10:13:02 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:13:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBCE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC04@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> No, they seem OK, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Yes I think so, but I never got the time to verify. Julian Tenney > schreef: Does it need fixing on other subpages ? navigators? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 09:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Correct, and I fixed this one as well I think, in models_html5/quiz.html Julian Tenney > schreef: Ah. John is in my team, he?s just shown me the problem: `e=mc^2? On the first time you see it, it?s OK: subsequent visits to the page, and it doesn?t render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and had to call the typesetting manually: MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put this? I?ll have a look, but I?ll have to look for it? ?I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > T he fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [content://com.fsck.k9.attachmentprovider/4ddf1f7b-d679-455f-9007-a45b4136c56b/531/RAW] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algeb ra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I?ve not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here?s how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now di splayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? < /p> John Horton ________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 26 10:33:52 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:33:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC04@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBCE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC04@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If something like MathJax isn?t firing on page change and needs to be then it might be better having the code to re-fire it in xenith code rather than in each of the page models otherwise it will be missed in new models. It could just be added in the section where the page model pagechange event is fired. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:13 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script No, they seem OK, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Yes I think so, but I never got the time to verify. Julian Tenney > schreef: Does it need fixing on other subpages ? navigators? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 09:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Correct, and I fixed this one as well I think, in models_html5/quiz.html Julian Tenney > schreef: Ah. John is in my team, he?s just shown me the problem: `e=mc^2? On the first time you see it, it?s OK: subsequent visits to the page, and it doesn?t render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and had to call the typesetting manually: MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put this? I?ll have a look, but I?ll have to look for it? ?I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > T he fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [content://com.fsck.k9.attachmentprovider/4ddf1f7b-d679-455f-9007-a45b4136c56b/531/RAW] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algeb ra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I?ve not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here?s how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now di splayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? < /p> John Horton ________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 26 10:39:39 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:39:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBCE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC04@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC3F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> That?s what I did. But I don?t know if there is a global event to listen to for sub-page changes. Actually it turns out navigators work OK. The quiz needed fixing - when the restart button was pressed. There might be other models that have sub-items that need to re-render the MathJax if they are re-shown. We?ve got a fairly heavy maths user here who will no doubt pipe up as she finds more places. She?s delighted with MathJax by the way, displaying formulae has long been a gripe for her. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 26 June 2013 10:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script If something like MathJax isn?t firing on page change and needs to be then it might be better having the code to re-fire it in xenith code rather than in each of the page models otherwise it will be missed in new models. It could just be added in the section where the page model pagechange event is fired. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:13 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script No, they seem OK, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Yes I think so, but I never got the time to verify. Julian Tenney > schreef: Does it need fixing on other subpages ? navigators? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 09:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Correct, and I fixed this one as well I think, in models_html5/quiz.html Julian Tenney > schreef: Ah. John is in my team, he?s just shown me the problem: `e=mc^2? On the first time you see it, it?s OK: subsequent visits to the page, and it doesn?t render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and had to call the typesetting manually: MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put this? I?ll have a look, but I?ll have to look for it? ?I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > T he fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [content://com.fsck.k9.attachmentprovider/4ddf1f7b-d679-455f-9007-a45b4136c56b/531/RAW] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algeb ra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I?ve not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here?s how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now di splayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? < /p> John Horton ________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 26 10:35:34 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:35:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC04@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBCE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC04@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Oh and we reached R1000 last night!! ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:13 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script No, they seem OK, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Yes I think so, but I never got the time to verify. Julian Tenney > schreef: Does it need fixing on other subpages ? navigators? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 09:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Correct, and I fixed this one as well I think, in models_html5/quiz.html Julian Tenney > schreef: Ah. John is in my team, he?s just shown me the problem: `e=mc^2? On the first time you see it, it?s OK: subsequent visits to the page, and it doesn?t render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and had to call the typesetting manually: MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put this? I?ll have a look, but I?ll have to look for it? ?I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > T he fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [content://com.fsck.k9.attachmentprovider/4ddf1f7b-d679-455f-9007-a45b4136c56b/531/RAW] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algeb ra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I?ve not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here?s how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now di splayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? < /p> John Horton ________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 26 10:47:22 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:47:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBCE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC04@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> That?s the sort of nerdy thing I noticed too! I once made 11 learning objects, one after another, just so I could bag play_5000 at Nottingham, but don?t tell anyone, they?ll think I?m weird ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 26 June 2013 10:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Oh and we reached R1000 last night!! ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:13 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script No, they seem OK, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Yes I think so, but I never got the time to verify. Julian Tenney > schreef: Does it need fixing on other subpages ? navigators? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 09:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Correct, and I fixed this one as well I think, in models_html5/quiz.html Julian Tenney > schreef: Ah. John is in my team, he?s just shown me the problem: `e=mc^2? On the first time you see it, it?s OK: subsequent visits to the page, and it doesn?t render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and had to call the typesetting manually: MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put this? I?ll have a look, but I?ll have to look for it? ?I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > T he fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [content://com.fsck.k9.attachmentprovider/4ddf1f7b-d679-455f-9007-a45b4136c56b/531/RAW] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algeb ra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I?ve not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here?s how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now di splayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? < /p> John Horton ________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jun 26 11:03:55 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:03:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBCE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC04@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: That is quite weird? When do you think we?ll reach 2000? I want to stick a reminder in my diary ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:47 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script That?s the sort of nerdy thing I noticed too! I once made 11 learning objects, one after another, just so I could bag play_5000 at Nottingham, but don?t tell anyone, they?ll think I?m weird ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 26 June 2013 10:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Oh and we reached R1000 last night!! ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:13 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script No, they seem OK, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Yes I think so, but I never got the time to verify. Julian Tenney > schreef: Does it need fixing on other subpages ? navigators? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 09:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Correct, and I fixed this one as well I think, in models_html5/quiz.html Julian Tenney > schreef: Ah. John is in my team, he?s just shown me the problem: `e=mc^2? On the first time you see it, it?s OK: subsequent visits to the page, and it doesn?t render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and had to call the typesetting manually: MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put this? I?ll have a look, but I?ll have to look for it? ?I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > T he fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [content://com.fsck.k9.attachmentprovider/4ddf1f7b-d679-455f-9007-a45b4136c56b/531/RAW] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algeb ra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I?ve not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here?s how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now di splayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? < /p> John Horton ________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 26 11:12:01 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:12:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script In-Reply-To: References: <519DFBB3.6020506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8db3352e-983f-4241-9398-64ab91b09a55@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFBCE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC04@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC4B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C687FFC8E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I always thought I?d build a big example in it, and it would be easy to remember, but in the end it?s just a testbed? You should be able to extrapolate some of the graphs at http://www.ohloh.net/p/xerteproject : there are typically 50 commits a month, so March 2015? ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 26 June 2013 11:04 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script That is quite weird? When do you think we?ll reach 2000? I want to stick a reminder in my diary ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:47 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script That?s the sort of nerdy thing I noticed too! I once made 11 learning objects, one after another, just so I could bag play_5000 at Nottingham, but don?t tell anyone, they?ll think I?m weird ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 26 June 2013 10:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Oh and we reached R1000 last night!! ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:13 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script No, they seem OK, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Yes I think so, but I never got the time to verify. Julian Tenney > schreef: Does it need fixing on other subpages ? navigators? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 June 2013 09:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script Correct, and I fixed this one as well I think, in models_html5/quiz.html Julian Tenney > schreef: Ah. John is in my team, he?s just shown me the problem: `e=mc^2? On the first time you see it, it?s OK: subsequent visits to the page, and it doesn?t render. I had this issue in the bootstrap template, and had to call the typesetting manually: MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub]); After each page load. Does anyone know in the Xenith.js where to put this? I?ll have a look, but I?ll have to look for it? ?I think this is a different problem to losing the backslashes? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 26 June 2013 09:18 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: FW: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script > T he fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. What is the cause of it? Is there anything I can do to help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton Sent: 26 June 2013 08:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2013 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: LaTex maths script The fact that we loose '\'when reentering the editor is a known issue. I'll give it another go to try and fix this. In the mean time, the math capabilities of Xerte Online Toolkits 2.0 have been enhanced with MathJax. So if you have XOT 2,0 at your disposal you can do the same with: `Re=(rho*nu*d)/eta` This is the so-called AsciiMath syntax. Latex should work as well, but then you would have to cope with '\' again, so no point in doing that now. [content://com.fsck.k9.attachmentprovider/4ddf1f7b-d679-455f-9007-a45b4136c56b/531/RAW] Hello, A colleague in Chemistry at Nottingham has been using equations in Toolkits over the last few days and she is overjoyed that she can now display algeb ra properly. However, she has managed to find a bug. Although I?ve not read all the correspondence about backslashes and losing them when re-entering the editor, her problem does seem to be related (even if only superficially). Here?s how to reproduce it. Create a quiz and add some algebra to the question or the possible answers. Add some other icon to the main flow-line. Run the program; observe that the algebra is displayed correctly; go to the next page; return to the quiz page; observe that the algebra is now di splayed exactly as it was put into the editor e.g. E = mc2 now appears as `E=mc^2`. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to avoid this? < /p> John Horton ________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sat Jun 29 22:09:06 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:09:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problem with Number of uses count in both trunk and v2.0 Message-ID: Hi, I've noticed (and fixed) a bug which has been introduced into v2.0 (and probably before) where 'number_of_uses' in templatedetails is setup with default of NULL and was not being set to 0 when a new template was created. In this situation the play code query which runs number_of_uses=number_of_uses+1 doesn't work and the value stays as NULL... So I've fixed it so that when new ones are created that 0 is inserted in this field but existing ones are stuck in limbo... I thought about fixing it in upgrade.php but have come up with what seems to me to be an elegant solution in play.php. I've changed the UPDATE query to: SET number_of_uses=COALESCE(number_of_uses+1,1) which seems to work. Basically COALESCE returns the first value that isn't NULL... so if number_of_uses is NULL then so it the +1 so in that case it returns the second value of 1. Never having used this SQL function before though i'm wondering what you all think about this... it seems to work with the problematic entries as well as the ok ones but is there anything I'm missing with the use of this function? I've committed it to trunk but will wait before pushing it into v2.0 branch to see what you all think... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Sat Jun 29 22:23:25 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:23:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with Number of uses count in both trunk and v2.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why not update but with a where on template id I think adding a select in to look for null is ok On 29 Jun 2013, at 22:09, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi, > > I've noticed (and fixed) a bug which has been introduced into v2.0 (and probably before) where 'number_of_uses' in templatedetails is setup with default of NULL and was not being set to 0 when a new template was created. In this situation the play code query which runs number_of_uses=number_of_uses+1 doesn't work and the value stays as NULL... > > So I've fixed it so that when new ones are created that 0 is inserted in this field but existing ones are stuck in limbo... I thought about fixing it in upgrade.php but have come up with what seems to me to be an elegant solution in play.php. I've changed the UPDATE query to: > > SET number_of_uses=COALESCE(number_of_uses+1,1) > > which seems to work. Basically COALESCE returns the first value that isn't NULL... so if number_of_uses is NULL then so it the +1 so in that case it returns the second value of 1. > > Never having used this SQL function before though i'm wondering what you all think about this... it seems to work with the problematic entries as well as the ok ones but is there anything I'm missing with the use of this function? I've committed it to trunk but will wait before pushing it into v2.0 branch to see what you all think... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sun Jun 30 09:50:12 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:50:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with Number of uses count in both trunk and v2.0 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Yeah I considered that but where should this be? In upgrade.php to be run once? or just near the start of play.php where is will be run each time? Was trying to avoid the additional database hit every time the LO is played... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 29 June 2013 22:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with Number of uses count in both trunk and v2.0 Why not update but with a where on template id I think adding a select in to look for null is ok On 29 Jun 2013, at 22:09, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi, > > I've noticed (and fixed) a bug which has been introduced into v2.0 (and probably before) where 'number_of_uses' in templatedetails is setup with default of NULL and was not being set to 0 when a new template was created. In this situation the play code query which runs number_of_uses=number_of_uses+1 doesn't work and the value stays as NULL... > > So I've fixed it so that when new ones are created that 0 is inserted in this field but existing ones are stuck in limbo... I thought about fixing it in upgrade.php but have come up with what seems to me to be an elegant solution in play.php. I've changed the UPDATE query to: > > SET number_of_uses=COALESCE(number_of_uses+1,1) > > which seems to work. Basically COALESCE returns the first value that isn't NULL... so if number_of_uses is NULL then so it the +1 so in that case it returns the second value of 1. > > Never having used this SQL function before though i'm wondering what you all think about this... it seems to work with the problematic entries as well as the ok ones but is there anything I'm missing with the use of this function? I've committed it to trunk but will wait before pushing it into v2.0 branch to see what you all think... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Sun Jun 30 10:29:59 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 10:29:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with Number of uses count in both trunk and v2.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5DE2B84E-E3EA-44DD-96CB-9EE4BA2512E8@pgogywebstuff.com> Play is best. The extra hit is just a fact of life sometimes - there is still a check recycle bin statement in index i think.... I think update can have conditions? Or try using replace maybe? On 30 Jun 2013, at 09:50, "Smith, John" wrote: > Yeah I considered that but where should this be? In upgrade.php to be run once? or just near the start of play.php where is will be run each time? Was trying to avoid the additional database hit every time the LO is played... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > Sent: 29 June 2013 22:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with Number of uses count in both trunk and v2.0 > > Why not update but with a where on template id > > I think adding a select in to look for null is ok > > On 29 Jun 2013, at 22:09, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've noticed (and fixed) a bug which has been introduced into v2.0 (and probably before) where 'number_of_uses' in templatedetails is setup with default of NULL and was not being set to 0 when a new template was created. In this situation the play code query which runs number_of_uses=number_of_uses+1 doesn't work and the value stays as NULL... >> >> So I've fixed it so that when new ones are created that 0 is inserted in this field but existing ones are stuck in limbo... I thought about fixing it in upgrade.php but have come up with what seems to me to be an elegant solution in play.php. I've changed the UPDATE query to: >> >> SET number_of_uses=COALESCE(number_of_uses+1,1) >> >> which seems to work. Basically COALESCE returns the first value that isn't NULL... so if number_of_uses is NULL then so it the +1 so in that case it returns the second value of 1. >> >> Never having used this SQL function before though i'm wondering what you all think about this... it seems to work with the problematic entries as well as the ok ones but is there anything I'm missing with the use of this function? I've committed it to trunk but will wait before pushing it into v2.0 branch to see what you all think... >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University >> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sun Jun 30 12:06:09 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 12:06:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with Number of uses count in both trunk and v2.0 In-Reply-To: <5DE2B84E-E3EA-44DD-96CB-9EE4BA2512E8@pgogywebstuff.com> References: , <5DE2B84E-E3EA-44DD-96CB-9EE4BA2512E8@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Ok i've reverted to the previous number_of_uses increment query and preceded it with an UPDATE to change all number_of_uses to 0... and pushed it into v2.0 branch also... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 30 June 2013 10:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with Number of uses count in both trunk and v2.0 Play is best. The extra hit is just a fact of life sometimes - there is still a check recycle bin statement in index i think.... I think update can have conditions? Or try using replace maybe? On 30 Jun 2013, at 09:50, "Smith, John" wrote: > Yeah I considered that but where should this be? In upgrade.php to be run once? or just near the start of play.php where is will be run each time? Was trying to avoid the additional database hit every time the LO is played... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > Sent: 29 June 2013 22:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with Number of uses count in both trunk and v2.0 > > Why not update but with a where on template id > > I think adding a select in to look for null is ok > > On 29 Jun 2013, at 22:09, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've noticed (and fixed) a bug which has been introduced into v2.0 (and probably before) where 'number_of_uses' in templatedetails is setup with default of NULL and was not being set to 0 when a new template was created. In this situation the play code query which runs number_of_uses=number_of_uses+1 doesn't work and the value stays as NULL... >> >> So I've fixed it so that when new ones are created that 0 is inserted in this field but existing ones are stuck in limbo... I thought about fixing it in upgrade.php but have come up with what seems to me to be an elegant solution in play.php. I've changed the UPDATE query to: >> >> SET number_of_uses=COALESCE(number_of_uses+1,1) >> >> which seems to work. Basically COALESCE returns the first value that isn't NULL... so if number_of_uses is NULL then so it the +1 so in that case it returns the second value of 1. >> >> Never having used this SQL function before though i'm wondering what you all think about this... it seems to work with the problematic entries as well as the ok ones but is there anything I'm missing with the use of this function? I've committed it to trunk but will wait before pushing it into v2.0 branch to see what you all think... >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University >> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sun Jun 30 20:38:50 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 20:38:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] User getting "Session ID not set" permanently when trying to create new or edit LO in new setup... Message-ID: Hi, User in Forum.. Server side sessions enabled... He's now trying different browser and to enable clientside cookies... Is there anything i'm missing with regards to file permissions or anything that has occurred in the past that has caused this error to be persistent, other than cookies? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html