[Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1

Pat @ Pgogy xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
Wed Jul 10 19:30:20 BST 2013


At least three years ago, mysqli has been around for ages

Some of the zend and zip stuff needs 5.1 I think. I tend to write stuff that isnt version dependent.

However, if you have php 5.5 or when that happens, XOT won't work anymore.

No need for two code versions, just a requirement for either pdo or mysqli extensions installed - and I would assume mysqli is on by default

On 10 Jul 2013, at 13:15, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

> Not sure when mysqli_* was fully formed… but we already don’t support under php 5.1 so if it was then then we should be fine… what do we do that requires 5.1+ anyway? Pat?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health & Life Sciences
> Glasgow Caledonian University
>  
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:05 PM
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1
>  
> So we’ll end up with different code for 5.3+ and code for 5.3-?
>  
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1
>  
> The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated… we’ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support…
>  
> Regards,
>  
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health & Life Sciences
> Glasgow Caledonian University
>  
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1
>  
> > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3
>  
> What does that mean?
>  
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy 
> Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1
>  
> I would give 2.1 a miss as a number
>  
> Reasoning
>  
> A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean
>  
> When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points
>  
> MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working
>  
> Make management side easier 
>  
> Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now
>  
> I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change 
>  
> Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward 
>  
> Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core
> 
> On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now… API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release…
>  
> If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ‘BIG LAUNCH’ and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!!
>  
> From memory we’ll have:
>  
> Stuff nearly there:
> Plugins (soonish - hopefully)
> App Store/Extend (almost there if not already)
> API (soon)
>  
> Longer terms stuff:
> HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least)
> Theme (?? Dunno)
> Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??)
>  
> Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release – people won’t update unless they think they need to… but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9
>  
> Anyway… ramble over…
>  
> Regards,
>  
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health & Life Sciences
> Glasgow Caledonian University
>  
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM
> To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk)
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1
>  
> Best start  new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1?
>  
> With all the automated builds, it really helps – there isn’t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be:
>  
> -          API
> -          HTML Wizard
> -          New theme / branding / look and feel (we’ve started looking at this)
> -          +?
>  
> But there is a lot of work in there…
>  
> Thoughts?
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