[Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1

Smith, John J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk
Wed Jul 10 13:34:25 BST 2013


Hmmm fatal... something about that doesn't sound good... ;-)

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:29 PM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1

Can't remember the details, but a lower version is fatal.
Found that out during a XOT reinstall.

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From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:15:01 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1
Not sure when mysqli_* was fully formed... but we already don't support under php 5.1 so if it was then then we should be fine... what do we do that requires 5.1+ anyway? Pat?

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:05 PM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1

So we'll end up with different code for 5.3+ and code for 5.3-?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1

The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated... we'll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support...

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1

> MySQL is dying out in php 5.3

What does that mean?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1

I would give 2.1 a miss as a number

Reasoning

A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean

When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points

MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working

Make management side easier

Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now

I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change

Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward

Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core

On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>> wrote:
I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now... API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release...

If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no 'BIG LAUNCH' and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!!

>From memory we'll have:

Stuff nearly there:
Plugins (soonish - hopefully)
App Store/Extend (almost there if not already)
API (soon)

Longer terms stuff:
HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least)
Theme (?? Dunno)
Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??)

Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release - people won't update unless they think they need to... but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9

Anyway... ramble over...

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1

Best start  new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1?

With all the automated builds, it really helps - there isn't so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be:

-          API
-          HTML Wizard
-          New theme / branding / look and feel (we've started looking at this)
-          +?

But there is a lot of work in there...

Thoughts?

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