[Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore?

Thu Jul 4 15:55:05 BST 2013

This is a can of works because I'm not sure how any such manifest would take
care of local tweaks and customisations. It's a regular challenge for me
upgrading installations e.g. I often update from svn, export to a local
folder, create a copy of that exported folder and remove certain files and
folders before uploading to the server e.g. I often remove the following
before uploading:

error_logs
import
setup
USER-FILES
auth_config.php
Library/Xerte/Authentication/Static.php
modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/common/styles.css
modules/xerte/templates/Nottingham/data.xml
and in some cases
website_code/images
website_code/styles

A 'clean upgrade' is relatively easy as long as you know what files and
folders to leave in place including backing up directories and database
first.

Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 03 July 2013 22:31
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore?

Hmmm... I know what your saying but perhaps not as easy to orchestrate when
in installed in server root as when installed in a sub-folder that can be
switched...

I'm sure it can be done in other ways though involving manifests and
tracking/backing-up changed/added/deleted files...

This might be where Tom's script for building packages from svn could create
a usable manifest of changes between Revisions and uswest that to build a
sub-version...

I'll look at how the major players (wordpress/drupal/moodle/joomla) do it
and feed back to the list...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII

Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

when i weighed up how to upgrade our install, I wanted to be able to make a
clean install, and then migrate the user data into it. Then I was sure I was
running a clean 2.0. There were quite a lot of changed files, and
structures, so installing over the top would have left a lot of litter, and
we already had quite a lot left over from 1.7 - 1.8 - 1.9 upgrades, which
were all over the top, with a bit of tweaking. Technically it was tricky
because we were trying to run two installs sharing one install's settings,
so paths didn't work, for example - so we had to take a plunge and switch it
all over - we had established the main things were working though. I think
it would be great if we could devise a process that went along that 'clean
install but exissting data' road.

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[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
[J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
Sent: 03 July 2013 20:08
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore?

Yeah Tom and its great. I use it often...

How easy was it to setup? Can a similar thing be done so that we get
semi-regular releases with the next release being incremental from the
previous? And could a manifest of changes be created (in xml say) that would
list the added, deleted unchanged files?

Would automating these things potentially break peoples installs? I want to
make it easy to setup and patch often but not so easy to shut down someone's
server... We could do a kind of rollback i suppose...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII

Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:

There is an automatic build of an update .zip with all the patches since the
release. That is far as we got.

Tom

Op 3-7-2013 20:09, Smith, John schreef:
> Has this every been discussed or considered?
>
> We've people coming on the forum still using v1.7 - should we now build in
an auto updater to make updates easy and even more frequent, such as v2.0.1,
v2.0.2 etc? Especially since we've been patching a few things lately that
are bound to catch other people out...
>
> If we did then there's lots to consider but does the benefits outweigh the
risks?
>
> Should we also build a backup option that will zip everything up, backup
database and send a download link when complete? That then leads on to a
restore from backup?
>
> Regards
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>
>
>
> Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>
> I might on Friday, but time to write code is hard to find at the 
> minute
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, 
> John
> Sent: 03 July 2013 16:37
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in 
> Bootstrap
>
> I'll look at it if I get a chance.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health & Life Sciences
> Glasgow Caledonian University
>
> From: 
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at list
> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] 
> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:34 PM
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in 
> Bootstrap
>
> I thought so. Bit busy to test the moment.
>
> If they want to do more than trivial changes, the best thing will be to
look at application.js, and the custom stylesheet in the template itself.
>
> From: 
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at list
> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] 
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in 
> Bootstrap
> Importance: High
>
> Hi Julian,
>
> Are these wired up yet? I couldn't get anything that I put into these 
> two fields to appear in my resulting LO source. Someone in the Forum 
> was asking about changing the look.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health & Life Sciences
> Glasgow Caledonian University
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