From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jul 1 08:18:42 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:18:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: User getting "Session ID not set" permanently when trying to create new or edit LO in new setup... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd wonder if the system can support sessions full stop - perhaps the session path isn't set, or it can only use DB sessions On 30 Jun 2013, at 20:38, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi, > > User in Forum.. > > Server side sessions enabled... > > He's now trying different browser and to enable clientside cookies... > > Is there anything i'm missing with regards to file permissions or anything that has occurred in the past that has caused this error to be persistent, other than cookies? > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jul 1 08:59:59 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:59:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: User getting "Session ID not set" permanently when trying to create new or edit LO in new setup... Message-ID: Hi php.inight settings show session.use_cookies On session.use_only_cookies On session.use_trans_sid 0 So i figured there might be something i was missing that might have been a warning at or changed after setup... Will find out a bit more about the host and whether anything co-exists with the xerte setup... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: I'd wonder if the system can support sessions full stop - perhaps the session path isn't set, or it can only use DB sessions On 30 Jun 2013, at 20:38, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi, > > User in Forum.. > > Server side sessions enabled... > > He's now trying different browser and to enable clientside cookies... > > Is there anything i'm missing with regards to file permissions or anything that has occurred in the past that has caused this error to be persistent, other than cookies? > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jul 1 17:14:42 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:14:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: User getting "Session ID not set" permanently when trying to create new or edit LO in new setup... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65B215AF-B1B9-4308-8AAA-F00A9F62C372@pgogywebstuff.com> There is a session path setting too. On 1 Jul 2013, at 08:59, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi php.inight settings show > > session.use_cookies On > session.use_only_cookies On > session.use_trans_sid 0 > > So i figured there might be something i was missing that might have been a warning at or changed after setup... > > Will find out a bit more about the host and whether anything co-exists with the xerte setup... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > I'd wonder if the system can support sessions full stop - perhaps the session path isn't set, or it can only use DB sessions > > On 30 Jun 2013, at 20:38, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> User in Forum.. >> >> Server side sessions enabled... >> >> He's now trying different browser and to enable clientside cookies... >> >> Is there anything i'm missing with regards to file permissions or anything that has occurred in the past that has caused this error to be persistent, other than cookies? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University >> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Mon Jul 1 17:25:14 2013 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (Thomas Rochford) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:25:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Mathjax Broken? Message-ID: <01bf01ce7677$932a6ce0$b97f46a0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Hi Everyone, Is it just me or has Mathjax suddenly stopped working? I am getting 'broken' image icons in IE10 and Chrome and nothing at all in Firefox. I'm sure it was working yesterday, when I tried it with R1005 to test the fix for backslashes, and it was definitely working. The code I'm using is The backslashes are now resistant to being re-published which previously caused them to be stripped. I'm meant to be demo-ing this on Thursday too! Kindest regards, Thomas From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Mon Jul 1 17:29:20 2013 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (Thomas Rochford) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:29:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: User getting "Session ID not set" permanently when trying to create new or edit LO in new setup... In-Reply-To: <65B215AF-B1B9-4308-8AAA-F00A9F62C372@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <65B215AF-B1B9-4308-8AAA-F00A9F62C372@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <01c201ce7678$246f2560$6d4d7020$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Hi, I had this problem and seem to have cured it by making sure the pages weren't cached, e.g. in IE you tell it to reload the page everytime you visit. My guess is the session cookie may be lingering, or not timing out, or IE10 & FFox are caching that information too. Kindest regards, Thomas -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 01 July 2013 5:15 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: User getting "Session ID not set" permanently when trying to create new or edit LO in new setup... There is a session path setting too. On 1 Jul 2013, at 08:59, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi php.inight settings show > > session.use_cookies On > session.use_only_cookies On > session.use_trans_sid 0 > > So i figured there might be something i was missing that might have been a warning at or changed after setup... > > Will find out a bit more about the host and whether anything co-exists with the xerte setup... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > I'd wonder if the system can support sessions full stop - perhaps the > session path isn't set, or it can only use DB sessions > > On 30 Jun 2013, at 20:38, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> User in Forum.. >> >> Server side sessions enabled... >> >> He's now trying different browser and to enable clientside cookies... >> >> Is there anything i'm missing with regards to file permissions or anything that has occurred in the past that has caused this error to be persistent, other than cookies? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | >> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, >> number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, >> 6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, >> 15691,en.html _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jul 1 18:48:24 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:48:24 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mathjax Broken? In-Reply-To: <01bf01ce7677$932a6ce0$b97f46a0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> References: <01bf01ce7677$932a6ce0$b97f46a0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51D1C0E8.4030504@tor.nl> Thomas, This is not MathJax but the old way of implementing TeX. And yes, I checked and that server is not working. They replaced the server and changed the OS from BSD to Linux. The executable used, doesn't run any more. I'll do my best and rebuild the executable for Linux. In the mean time you can use LaTeX in MathJax by placing the LaTeX formula between \( and \), i.e. \(a \indent \frac{(x - h)^2} { a^2} + \frac{(y - v)^2} {b^2} = 1\) Tom Op 1-7-2013 18:25, Thomas Rochford schreef: > Hi Everyone, > > Is it just me or has Mathjax suddenly stopped working? > > I am getting 'broken' image icons in IE10 and Chrome and nothing at all in Firefox. I'm sure it was working yesterday, when I tried it with R1005 to test the fix for backslashes, and it was definitely working. > > The code I'm using is > > > > The backslashes are now resistant to being re-published which previously caused them to be stripped. > > I'm meant to be demo-ing this on Thursday too! > > Kindest regards, Thomas > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jul 1 20:02:03 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 21:02:03 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mathjax Broken? In-Reply-To: <51D1C0E8.4030504@tor.nl> References: <01bf01ce7677$932a6ce0$b97f46a0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <51D1C0E8.4030504@tor.nl> Message-ID: <51D1D22B.9020005@tor.nl> I rebuilt the web service that is used (by the flash engine and javascript/html5 engine) to convert tag to an image. I also moved it to the community server. Because of the move, I have changed the DNS records that point to the web service, and it takes a while before the DNS change is complete (up to 48 hours). After that, everything should work again. Sorry for any inconveniences. Regards, Tom Op 1-7-2013 19:48, Tom Reijnders schreef: > Thomas, > > This is not MathJax but the old way of implementing TeX. And yes, I > checked and that server is not working. They replaced the server and > changed the OS from BSD to Linux. The executable used, doesn't run any > more. I'll do my best and rebuild the executable for Linux. > > In the mean time you can use LaTeX in MathJax by placing the LaTeX > formula between \( and \), i.e. \(a \indent \frac{(x - h)^2} { a^2} + > \frac{(y - v)^2} {b^2} = 1\) > > Tom > > > > Op 1-7-2013 18:25, Thomas Rochford schreef: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Is it just me or has Mathjax suddenly stopped working? >> >> I am getting 'broken' image icons in IE10 and Chrome and nothing at >> all in Firefox. I'm sure it was working yesterday, when I tried it >> with R1005 to test the fix for backslashes, and it was definitely >> working. >> >> The code I'm using is >> >> >> >> The backslashes are now resistant to being re-published which >> previously caused them to be stripped. >> >> I'm meant to be demo-ing this on Thursday too! >> >> Kindest regards, Thomas >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained >> in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions >> expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the >> views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >> permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 2 14:25:35 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:25:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Long awaited API - Advanced users only Message-ID: Hi, Sorry it's taken so long, but for those who wish to try out the API and give me some feedback, here is a zip to drop in root. Probably best to try on a non-critical server just now to make sure there are no security holes/bugs... Simply: Unzip and drop in root (works in xampp) Navigate to /api/setup - this will install the 3 tables in MySQL (keys, nonces, options) and a test key/secret pair IQKbtAYlXLripLGPWd0HUA / GgDYlkSvaPxGxC4X8liwpUoqKwwr3lCADbz8A7ADU It also includes a testing file at /api/test.php which will build a request, sign it and show the response to allow you to test against what you have running... It's more complicated that it needed to be but it opens up the database to I wanted to make sure it required at least signed requests... It pretty much implements an Auth 1.0 2-Legged request and uses OAuth.php to do all the heavy lifting... If you look in the /controllers folder you'll see how the controllers are implemented. Plan it to add another called 'xxxx' (not sure yet) which will expose some of the data about the system. Some code has been committed to trunk (but not much) to give API tabs etc but at present there is no way to generate a new 'application' entry other than SQL straight into the database, it should then show in the Workspace API tab for that user... working on the rest... Send me any errors or comments and i'll address... 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:24 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Ifrane full window Hello, Should this make the iframe fill the entire window if iframe embed is used? Pat _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Wed Jul 3 01:40:00 2013 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 00:40:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: =?utf-8?q?Mathjax_Broken=3F?= In-Reply-To: <51D1D22B.9020005@tor.nl> References: <01bf01ce7677$932a6ce0$b97f46a0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <51D1C0E8.4030504@tor.nl>,<51D1D22B.9020005@tor.nl> Message-ID: <51d30417.330db50a.2312.3ef6@mx.google.com> Good afternoon, Thank you Tom, that was very timely! There are still some minor glitches, e.g. \indent and \tag{} etc. have stopped working, but I can work around those. Most impressively, however \varpi_g now properly produces the glyph for the ?ecliptic longitude of the perigee? (i.e. the apparent ecliptic longitude of the sun when the earth is closest to it) !!! Kindest regards, Thomas Sent from Windows Mail From: Tom Reijnders Sent: ?Monday?, ?1? ?July? ?2013 ?12?:?02 To: For Xerte technical developers I rebuilt the web service that is used (by the flash engine and javascript/html5 engine) to convert tag to an image. I also moved it to the community server. Because of the move, I have changed the DNS records that point to the web service, and it takes a while before the DNS change is complete (up to 48 hours). After that, everything should work again. Sorry for any inconveniences. Regards, Tom Op 1-7-2013 19:48, Tom Reijnders schreef: > Thomas, > > This is not MathJax but the old way of implementing TeX. And yes, I > checked and that server is not working. They replaced the server and > changed the OS from BSD to Linux. The executable used, doesn't run any > more. I'll do my best and rebuild the executable for Linux. > > In the mean time you can use LaTeX in MathJax by placing the LaTeX > formula between \( and \), i.e. \(a \indent \frac{(x - h)^2} { a^2} + > \frac{(y - v)^2} {b^2} = 1\) > > Tom > > > > Op 1-7-2013 18:25, Thomas Rochford schreef: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Is it just me or has Mathjax suddenly stopped working? >> >> I am getting 'broken' image icons in IE10 and Chrome and nothing at >> all in Firefox. I'm sure it was working yesterday, when I tried it >> with R1005 to test the fix for backslashes, and it was definitely >> working. >> >> The code I'm using is >> >> >> >> The backslashes are now resistant to being re-published which >> previously caused them to be stripped. >> >> I'm meant to be demo-ing this on Thursday too! >> >> Kindest regards, Thomas >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained >> in this message or in any attachment. 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Didn't know there was a fullscreen option, thought you had to do it using width/height:100% is style= attribute or stylesheet? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:24 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Ifrane full window > > Hello, > > Should this make the iframe fill the entire window if iframe embed is used? > > Pat > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jul 2 18:36:15 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 18:36:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Long awaited API - Advanced users only In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CA9228F-00E6-4C24-A355-B26561305FA4@pgogywebstuff.com> Cool, crazy busy right now - running a MOOC - thinking can try over weekend. I have a new template soon as well On 2 Jul 2013, at 14:25, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry it's taken so long, but for those who wish to try out the API and give me some feedback, here is a zip to drop in root. Probably best to try on a non-critical server just now to make sure there are no security holes/bugs... > > Simply: > > Unzip and drop in root (works in xampp) > Navigate to /api/setup - this will install the 3 tables in MySQL (keys, nonces, options) and a test key/secret pair IQKbtAYlXLripLGPWd0HUA / GgDYlkSvaPxGxC4X8liwpUoqKwwr3lCADbz8A7ADU > It also includes a testing file at /api/test.php which will build a request, sign it and show the response to allow you to test against what you have running... > > It's more complicated that it needed to be but it opens up the database to I wanted to make sure it required at least signed requests... It pretty much implements an Auth 1.0 2-Legged request and uses OAuth.php to do all the heavy lifting... > > If you look in the /controllers folder you'll see how the controllers are implemented. Plan it to add another called 'xxxx' (not sure yet) which will expose some of the data about the system. > > Some code has been committed to trunk (but not much) to give API tabs etc but at present there is no way to generate a new 'application' entry other than SQL straight into the database, it should then show in the Workspace API tab for that user... working on the rest... > > Send me any errors or comments and i'll address... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 2 19:21:47 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:21:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Ifrane full window Message-ID: <1wrc24ec8mqgoodregrs3gly.1372789305975@email.android.com> Hmm it should be possible but you might run into cross domain security issues trying to access the parent... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: In html5 if you click the four arrows it fills the screen, I'm thinking if in an iframe then the iframe is mangled via some JS to become the size of the window the iframe is in On 2 Jul 2013, at 16:25, "Smith, John" wrote: > Do you mean the iframe embed code for the LO or in general? Didn't know there was a fullscreen option, thought you had to do it using width/height:100% is style= attribute or stylesheet? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:24 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Ifrane full window > > Hello, > > Should this make the iframe fill the entire window if iframe embed is used? > > Pat > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jul 2 19:29:18 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:29:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Ifrane full window In-Reply-To: <1wrc24ec8mqgoodregrs3gly.1372789305975@email.android.com> References: <1wrc24ec8mqgoodregrs3gly.1372789305975@email.android.com> Message-ID: <90B540AC-8293-45A9-848A-03338BA9100A@pgogywebstuff.com> You won't access the parent, iframe zindex massive width and height window size No other calls? On 2 Jul 2013, at 19:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hmm it should be possible but you might run into cross domain security issues trying to access the parent... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > In html5 if you click the four arrows it fills the screen, > > I'm thinking if in an iframe then the iframe is mangled via some JS to become the size of the window the iframe is in > > On 2 Jul 2013, at 16:25, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Do you mean the iframe embed code for the LO or in general? Didn't know there was a fullscreen option, thought you had to do it using width/height:100% is style= attribute or stylesheet? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy >> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:24 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Ifrane full window >> >> Hello, >> >> Should this make the iframe fill the entire window if iframe embed is used? >> >> Pat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 2 19:30:58 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:30:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Long awaited API - Advanced users only Message-ID: Sure, no hurry. Just thought i'd get it out there... Struggling to get my head around the files that support management to add and service the tabs... Its a maze!! Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Cool, crazy busy right now - running a MOOC - thinking can try over weekend. I have a new template soon as well On 2 Jul 2013, at 14:25, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry it's taken so long, but for those who wish to try out the API and give me some feedback, here is a zip to drop in root. Probably best to try on a non-critical server just now to make sure there are no security holes/bugs... > > Simply: > > Unzip and drop in root (works in xampp) > Navigate to /api/setup - this will install the 3 tables in MySQL (keys, nonces, options) and a test key/secret pair IQKbtAYlXLripLGPWd0HUA / GgDYlkSvaPxGxC4X8liwpUoqKwwr3lCADbz8A7ADU > It also includes a testing file at /api/test.php which will build a request, sign it and show the response to allow you to test against what you have running... > > It's more complicated that it needed to be but it opens up the database to I wanted to make sure it required at least signed requests... It pretty much implements an Auth 1.0 2-Legged request and uses OAuth.php to do all the heavy lifting... > > If you look in the /controllers folder you'll see how the controllers are implemented. Plan it to add another called 'xxxx' (not sure yet) which will expose some of the data about the system. > > Some code has been committed to trunk (but not much) to give API tabs etc but at present there is no way to generate a new 'application' entry other than SQL straight into the database, it should then show in the Workspace API tab for that user... working on the rest... > > Send me any errors or comments and i'll address... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 2 19:34:38 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:34:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Ifrane full window Message-ID: <33eijwojbkutrkj50it8we7b.1372790076586@email.android.com> Yeah you should be able to just set the iframe width/height to the window width/height or to 100% and it should scale... Is this for the mooc? Mooc sounds like a lot of work? What's the topic? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: You won't access the parent, iframe zindex massive width and height window size No other calls? On 2 Jul 2013, at 19:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hmm it should be possible but you might run into cross domain security issues trying to access the parent... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > In html5 if you click the four arrows it fills the screen, > > I'm thinking if in an iframe then the iframe is mangled via some JS to become the size of the window the iframe is in > > On 2 Jul 2013, at 16:25, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Do you mean the iframe embed code for the LO or in general? Didn't know there was a fullscreen option, thought you had to do it using width/height:100% is style= attribute or stylesheet? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy >> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:24 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Ifrane full window >> >> Hello, >> >> Should this make the iframe fill the entire window if iframe embed is used? >> >> Pat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jul 2 20:08:07 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 21:08:07 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Mathjax Broken? In-Reply-To: <51d30417.330db50a.2312.3ef6@mx.google.com> References: <01bf01ce7677$932a6ce0$b97f46a0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <51D1C0E8.4030504@tor.nl>, <51D1D22B.9020005@tor.nl> <51d30417.330db50a.2312.3ef6@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51D32517.4010702@tor.nl> I don't know the exact syntaxes excepted by both solutions but: - uses the mathtex.cgi webservice on the community webserver (and a full latex installation) - \(\) uses MathJax, and in this case with \(\) the LaTeX syntax. But I don't know where \indent nad \bye is coming from So we have all the possible solutions again online. Regards, Tom Op 3-7-2013 2:40, thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk schreef: > Good afternoon, > > Thank you Tom, that was very timely! > > There are still some minor glitches, e.g. \indent and \tag{} etc. have > stopped working, but I can work around those. Most impressively, > however \varpi_g now properly produces the glyph for the 'ecliptic > longitude of the perigee' (i.e. the apparent ecliptic longitude of the > sun when the earth is closest to it) !!! > > Kindest regards, Thomas > Sent from Windows Mail > > *From:* Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* ?Monday?, ?1? ?July? ?2013 ?12?:?02 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > I rebuilt the web service that is used (by the flash engine and > javascript/html5 engine) to convert tag to an image. I also > moved it to the community server. > > Because of the move, I have changed the DNS records that point to the > web service, and it takes a while before the DNS change is complete (up > to 48 hours). After that, everything should work again. > > Sorry for any inconveniences. > > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 1-7-2013 19:48, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > Thomas, > > > > This is not MathJax but the old way of implementing TeX. And yes, I > > checked and that server is not working. They replaced the server and > > changed the OS from BSD to Linux. The executable used, doesn't run any > > more. I'll do my best and rebuild the executable for Linux. > > > > In the mean time you can use LaTeX in MathJax by placing the LaTeX > > formula between \( and \), i.e. \(a \indent \frac{(x - h)^2} { a^2} + > > \frac{(y - v)^2} {b^2} = 1\) > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > Op 1-7-2013 18:25, Thomas Rochford schreef: > >> Hi Everyone, > >> > >> Is it just me or has Mathjax suddenly stopped working? > >> > >> I am getting 'broken' image icons in IE10 and Chrome and nothing at > >> all in Firefox. I'm sure it was working yesterday, when I tried it > >> with R1005 to test the fix for backslashes, and it was definitely > >> working. > >> > >> The code I'm using is > >> > >> > >> > >> The backslashes are now resistant to being re-published which > >> previously caused them to be stripped. > >> > >> I'm meant to be demo-ing this on Thursday too! > >> > >> Kindest regards, Thomas > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Xerte-dev mailing list > >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained > >> in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions > >> expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the > >> views of the University of Nottingham. > >> > >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > >> attachment > >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > >> system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > >> permitted by UK legislation. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Op 2-7-2013 21:08, Tom Reijnders schreef: > I don't know the exact syntaxes excepted by both solutions but: > > - uses the mathtex.cgi webservice on the community > webserver (and a full latex installation) > - \(\) uses MathJax, and in this case with \(\) the LaTeX syntax. But > I don't know where \indent nad \bye is coming from > > > So we have all the possible solutions again online. > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 3-7-2013 2:40, thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk schreef: >> Good afternoon, >> >> Thank you Tom, that was very timely! >> >> There are still some minor glitches, e.g. \indent and \tag{} etc. >> have stopped working, but I can work around those. Most impressively, >> however \varpi_g now properly produces the glyph for the 'ecliptic >> longitude of the perigee' (i.e. the apparent ecliptic longitude of >> the sun when the earth is closest to it) !!! >> >> Kindest regards, Thomas >> Sent from Windows Mail >> >> *From:* Tom Reijnders >> *Sent:* ?Monday?, ?1? ?July? ?2013 ?12?:?02 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> >> I rebuilt the web service that is used (by the flash engine and >> javascript/html5 engine) to convert tag to an image. I also >> moved it to the community server. >> >> Because of the move, I have changed the DNS records that point to the >> web service, and it takes a while before the DNS change is complete (up >> to 48 hours). After that, everything should work again. >> >> Sorry for any inconveniences. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom >> >> Op 1-7-2013 19:48, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> > Thomas, >> > >> > This is not MathJax but the old way of implementing TeX. And yes, I >> > checked and that server is not working. They replaced the server and >> > changed the OS from BSD to Linux. The executable used, doesn't run any >> > more. I'll do my best and rebuild the executable for Linux. >> > >> > In the mean time you can use LaTeX in MathJax by placing the LaTeX >> > formula between \( and \), i.e. \(a \indent \frac{(x - h)^2} { a^2} + >> > \frac{(y - v)^2} {b^2} = 1\) >> > >> > Tom >> > >> > >> > >> > Op 1-7-2013 18:25, Thomas Rochford schreef: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> >> >> Is it just me or has Mathjax suddenly stopped working? >> >> >> >> I am getting 'broken' image icons in IE10 and Chrome and nothing at >> >> all in Firefox. I'm sure it was working yesterday, when I tried it >> >> with R1005 to test the fix for backslashes, and it was definitely >> >> working. >> >> >> >> The code I'm using is >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The backslashes are now resistant to being re-published which >> >> previously caused them to be stripped. >> >> >> >> I'm meant to be demo-ing this on Thursday too! >> >> >> >> Kindest regards, Thomas >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained >> >> in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 2 20:50:29 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:50:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Ifrane full window Message-ID: <6fkyw8qn0wb3uhl2vbn829ks.1372794528756@email.android.com> Ok, so just to be clear. You want the 'full-screen' button to detect when its using the iframe embed code and resize the iframe accordingly? Just thinking that if the iframe is constrained inside a table or fixed size div or something then it might throw the whole external site out of shape, adding scrollbars right and bottom where stuff outside the iframe is pushed beyond the viewable window... I'll take a look at it though and see but it might not actually be possible without some serious dom manipulation... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Smith, John" wrote: Yeah you should be able to just set the iframe width/height to the window width/height or to 100% and it should scale... Is this for the mooc? Mooc sounds like a lot of work? What's the topic? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: You won't access the parent, iframe zindex massive width and height window size No other calls? On 2 Jul 2013, at 19:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hmm it should be possible but you might run into cross domain security issues trying to access the parent... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > In html5 if you click the four arrows it fills the screen, > > I'm thinking if in an iframe then the iframe is mangled via some JS to become the size of the window the iframe is in > > On 2 Jul 2013, at 16:25, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Do you mean the iframe embed code for the LO or in general? Didn't know there was a fullscreen option, thought you had to do it using width/height:100% is style= attribute or stylesheet? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy >> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:24 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Ifrane full window >> >> Hello, >> >> Should this make the iframe fill the entire window if iframe embed is used? >> >> Pat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jul 3 08:08:21 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 08:08:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Ifrane full window In-Reply-To: <6fkyw8qn0wb3uhl2vbn829ks.1372794528756@email.android.com> References: <6fkyw8qn0wb3uhl2vbn829ks.1372794528756@email.android.com> Message-ID: <67222B80-26F0-4944-8E13-EB2F339A6FCD@pgogywebstuff.com> If the Iframe is zindexed and full screened you aren't going to see the rest of the site? On 2 Jul 2013, at 20:50, "Smith, John" wrote: > Ok, so just to be clear. You want the 'full-screen' button to detect when its using the iframe embed code and resize the iframe accordingly? > > Just thinking that if the iframe is constrained inside a table or fixed size div or something then it might throw the whole external site out of shape, adding scrollbars right and bottom where stuff outside the iframe is pushed beyond the viewable window... I'll take a look at it though and see but it might not actually be possible without some serious dom manipulation... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Smith, John" wrote: > > > Yeah you should be able to just set the iframe width/height to the window width/height or to 100% and it should scale... > > Is this for the mooc? Mooc sounds like a lot of work? What's the topic? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > You won't access the parent, iframe zindex massive width and height window size > > No other calls? > > On 2 Jul 2013, at 19:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Hmm it should be possible but you might run into cross domain security issues trying to access the parent... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: >> >> >> In html5 if you click the four arrows it fills the screen, >> >> I'm thinking if in an iframe then the iframe is mangled via some JS to become the size of the window the iframe is in >> >> On 2 Jul 2013, at 16:25, "Smith, John" wrote: >> >>> Do you mean the iframe embed code for the LO or in general? Didn't know there was a fullscreen option, thought you had to do it using width/height:100% is style= attribute or stylesheet? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> John Smith >>> Learning Technologist >>> School of Health & Life Sciences >>> Glasgow Caledonian University >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:24 PM >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Ifrane full window >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Should this make the iframe fill the entire window if iframe embed is used? >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >>> >>> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >>> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >>> >>> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >>> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jul 3 08:23:32 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 08:23:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Ifrane full window In-Reply-To: <33eijwojbkutrkj50it8we7b.1372790076586@email.android.com> References: <33eijwojbkutrkj50it8we7b.1372790076586@email.android.com> Message-ID: Not for my stuff, I've hacked the HTML of the LOs I'm using on the MOOC so they display differently anyways. MOOCs - kinda crazy. 19000 students English common law on coursera In week 3 I make my grand appearance On 2 Jul 2013, at 19:34, "Smith, John" wrote: > Yeah you should be able to just set the iframe width/height to the window width/height or to 100% and it should scale... > > Is this for the mooc? Mooc sounds like a lot of work? What's the topic? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > You won't access the parent, iframe zindex massive width and height window size > > No other calls? > > On 2 Jul 2013, at 19:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Hmm it should be possible but you might run into cross domain security issues trying to access the parent... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: >> >> >> In html5 if you click the four arrows it fills the screen, >> >> I'm thinking if in an iframe then the iframe is mangled via some JS to become the size of the window the iframe is in >> >> On 2 Jul 2013, at 16:25, "Smith, John" wrote: >> >>> Do you mean the iframe embed code for the LO or in general? Didn't know there was a fullscreen option, thought you had to do it using width/height:100% is style= attribute or stylesheet? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> John Smith >>> Learning Technologist >>> School of Health & Life Sciences >>> Glasgow Caledonian University >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:24 PM >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Ifrane full window >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Should this make the iframe fill the entire window if iframe embed is used? >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >>> >>> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >>> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >>> >>> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >>> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 3 14:02:30 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:02:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Ifrane full window In-Reply-To: References: <33eijwojbkutrkj50it8we7b.1372790076586@email.android.com> Message-ID: I've had a play around and you can't access any property/method (including width/height etc) of the actual iframe from a cross-domain framed page... Only way I've managed to do it is to use postMessage to trigger an event in the parent window, which involves a bit of JavaScrip in the parent (iframe at bottom) Then in Xenith.js you just need to add the //Post a message code into the button click handler $("#x_cssBtn") .button({ icons: {primary: "x_maximise"}, label: x_getLangInfo(x_languageData.find("sizes").find("item")[3], false, "Full screen"), text: false }) .click(function() { // Post a message to the containing page for iframe resizing if (window && window.parent && window.parent.postMessage) { window.parent.postMessage((String)(!x_fillWindow), "*"); } Needs a bit of work though, especially to perhaps position the iframe absolutely and take care of potential scrolling etc? But hey, it works!! Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 8:24 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Ifrane full window Not for my stuff, I've hacked the HTML of the LOs I'm using on the MOOC so they display differently anyways. MOOCs - kinda crazy. 19000 students English common law on coursera In week 3 I make my grand appearance On 2 Jul 2013, at 19:34, "Smith, John" > wrote: > Yeah you should be able to just set the iframe width/height to the window width/height or to 100% and it should scale... > > Is this for the mooc? Mooc sounds like a lot of work? What's the topic? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" > wrote: > > > You won't access the parent, iframe zindex massive width and height > window size > > No other calls? > > On 2 Jul 2013, at 19:21, "Smith, John" > wrote: > >> Hmm it should be possible but you might run into cross domain security issues trying to access the parent... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" > wrote: >> >> >> In html5 if you click the four arrows it fills the screen, >> >> I'm thinking if in an iframe then the iframe is mangled via some JS >> to become the size of the window the iframe is in >> >> On 2 Jul 2013, at 16:25, "Smith, John" > wrote: >> >>> Do you mean the iframe embed code for the LO or in general? Didn't know there was a fullscreen option, thought you had to do it using width/height:100% is style= attribute or stylesheet? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> John Smith >>> Learning Technologist >>> School of Health & Life Sciences >>> Glasgow Caledonian University >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ >>> Pgogy >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:24 PM >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Ifrane full window >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Should this make the iframe fill the entire window if iframe embed is used? >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Someone in the Forum was asking about changing the look... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 3 16:51:11 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:51:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6C6D09BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6C6D09D8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I might on Friday, but time to write code is hard to find at the minute From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 03 July 2013 16:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap I'll look at it if I get a chance... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap I thought so. Bit busy to test the moment... If they want to do more than trivial changes, the best thing will be to look at application.js, and the custom stylesheet in the template itself. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 03 July 2013 15:20 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap Importance: High Hi Julian, Are these wired up yet? I couldn't get anything that I put into these two fields to appear in my resulting LO source... Someone in the Forum was asking about changing the look... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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We've people coming on the forum still using v1.7 - should we now build in an auto updater to make updates easy and even more frequent, such as v2.0.1, v2.0.2 etc? Especially since we've been patching a few things lately that are bound to catch other people out... If we did then there's lots to consider but does the benefits outweigh the risks? Should we also build a backup option that will zip everything up, backup database and send a download link when complete? That then leads on to a restore from backup? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: I might on Friday, but time to write code is hard to find at the minute From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 03 July 2013 16:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap I?ll look at it if I get a chance? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap I thought so. Bit busy to test the moment? If they want to do more than trivial changes, the best thing will be to look at application.js, and the custom stylesheet in the template itself. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 03 July 2013 15:20 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap Importance: High Hi Julian, Are these wired up yet? I couldn?t get anything that I put into these two fields to appear in my resulting LO source? Someone in the Forum was asking about changing the look? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Jul 3 19:20:18 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 20:20:18 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? In-Reply-To: <0dldt3deg9po985tyfdouv7g.1372874993754@email.android.com> References: <0dldt3deg9po985tyfdouv7g.1372874993754@email.android.com> Message-ID: <51D46B62.3010600@tor.nl> There is an automatic build of an update .zip with all the patches since the release. That is far as we got. Tom Op 3-7-2013 20:09, Smith, John schreef: > Has this every been discussed or considered? > > We've people coming on the forum still using v1.7 - should we now build in an auto updater to make updates easy and even more frequent, such as v2.0.1, v2.0.2 etc? Especially since we've been patching a few things lately that are bound to catch other people out... > > If we did then there's lots to consider but does the benefits outweigh the risks? > > Should we also build a backup option that will zip everything up, backup database and send a download link when complete? That then leads on to a restore from backup? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > I might on Friday, but time to write code is hard to find at the minute > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 03 July 2013 16:37 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > > I?ll look at it if I get a chance? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:34 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > > I thought so. Bit busy to test the moment? > > If they want to do more than trivial changes, the best thing will be to look at application.js, and the custom stylesheet in the template itself. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 03 July 2013 15:20 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > Importance: High > > Hi Julian, > > Are these wired up yet? I couldn?t get anything that I put into these two fields to appear in my resulting LO source? Someone in the Forum was asking about changing the look? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 3 20:08:17 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:08:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? Message-ID: Yeah Tom and its great. I use it often... How easy was it to setup? Can a similar thing be done so that we get semi-regular releases with the next release being incremental from the previous? And could a manifest of changes be created (in xml say) that would list the added, deleted unchanged files? Would automating these things potentially break peoples installs? I want to make it easy to setup and patch often but not so easy to shut down someone's server... We could do a kind of rollback i suppose... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Tom Reijnders wrote: There is an automatic build of an update .zip with all the patches since the release. That is far as we got. Tom Op 3-7-2013 20:09, Smith, John schreef: > Has this every been discussed or considered? > > We've people coming on the forum still using v1.7 - should we now build in an auto updater to make updates easy and even more frequent, such as v2.0.1, v2.0.2 etc? Especially since we've been patching a few things lately that are bound to catch other people out... > > If we did then there's lots to consider but does the benefits outweigh the risks? > > Should we also build a backup option that will zip everything up, backup database and send a download link when complete? That then leads on to a restore from backup? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > I might on Friday, but time to write code is hard to find at the minute > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 03 July 2013 16:37 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > > I?ll look at it if I get a chance? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:34 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > > I thought so. Bit busy to test the moment? > > If they want to do more than trivial changes, the best thing will be to look at application.js, and the custom stylesheet in the template itself. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 03 July 2013 15:20 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > Importance: High > > Hi Julian, > > Are these wired up yet? I couldn?t get anything that I put into these two fields to appear in my resulting LO source? Someone in the Forum was asking about changing the look? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 3 22:19:30 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 22:19:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C6C9EAA7E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> when i weighed up how to upgrade our install, I wanted to be able to make a clean install, and then migrate the user data into it. Then I was sure I was running a clean 2.0. There were quite a lot of changed files, and structures, so installing over the top would have left a lot of litter, and we already had quite a lot left over from 1.7 - 1.8 - 1.9 upgrades, which were all over the top, with a bit of tweaking. Technically it was tricky because we were trying to run two installs sharing one install's settings, so paths didn't work, for example - so we had to take a plunge and switch it all over - we had established the main things were working though. I think it would be great if we could devise a process that went along that 'clean install but exissting data' road. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 03 July 2013 20:08 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? Yeah Tom and its great. I use it often... How easy was it to setup? Can a similar thing be done so that we get semi-regular releases with the next release being incremental from the previous? And could a manifest of changes be created (in xml say) that would list the added, deleted unchanged files? Would automating these things potentially break peoples installs? I want to make it easy to setup and patch often but not so easy to shut down someone's server... We could do a kind of rollback i suppose... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Tom Reijnders wrote: There is an automatic build of an update .zip with all the patches since the release. That is far as we got. Tom Op 3-7-2013 20:09, Smith, John schreef: > Has this every been discussed or considered? > > We've people coming on the forum still using v1.7 - should we now build in an auto updater to make updates easy and even more frequent, such as v2.0.1, v2.0.2 etc? Especially since we've been patching a few things lately that are bound to catch other people out... > > If we did then there's lots to consider but does the benefits outweigh the risks? > > Should we also build a backup option that will zip everything up, backup database and send a download link when complete? That then leads on to a restore from backup? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > I might on Friday, but time to write code is hard to find at the minute > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 03 July 2013 16:37 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > > I?ll look at it if I get a chance? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:34 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > > I thought so. Bit busy to test the moment? > > If they want to do more than trivial changes, the best thing will be to look at application.js, and the custom stylesheet in the template itself. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 03 July 2013 15:20 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > Importance: High > > Hi Julian, > > Are these wired up yet? I couldn?t get anything that I put into these two fields to appear in my resulting LO source? Someone in the Forum was asking about changing the look? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 3 22:30:33 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 22:30:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? Message-ID: Hmmm... I know what your saying but perhaps not as easy to orchestrate when in installed in server root as when installed in a sub-folder that can be switched... I'm sure it can be done in other ways though involving manifests and tracking/backing-up changed/added/deleted files... This might be where Tom's script for building packages from svn could create a usable manifest of changes between Revisions and uswest that to build a sub-version... I'll look at how the major players (wordpress/drupal/moodle/joomla) do it and feed back to the list... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: when i weighed up how to upgrade our install, I wanted to be able to make a clean install, and then migrate the user data into it. Then I was sure I was running a clean 2.0. There were quite a lot of changed files, and structures, so installing over the top would have left a lot of litter, and we already had quite a lot left over from 1.7 - 1.8 - 1.9 upgrades, which were all over the top, with a bit of tweaking. Technically it was tricky because we were trying to run two installs sharing one install's settings, so paths didn't work, for example - so we had to take a plunge and switch it all over - we had established the main things were working though. I think it would be great if we could devise a process that went along that 'clean install but exissting data' road. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 03 July 2013 20:08 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? Yeah Tom and its great. I use it often... How easy was it to setup? Can a similar thing be done so that we get semi-regular releases with the next release being incremental from the previous? And could a manifest of changes be created (in xml say) that would list the added, deleted unchanged files? Would automating these things potentially break peoples installs? I want to make it easy to setup and patch often but not so easy to shut down someone's server... We could do a kind of rollback i suppose... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Tom Reijnders wrote: There is an automatic build of an update .zip with all the patches since the release. That is far as we got. Tom Op 3-7-2013 20:09, Smith, John schreef: > Has this every been discussed or considered? > > We've people coming on the forum still using v1.7 - should we now build in an auto updater to make updates easy and even more frequent, such as v2.0.1, v2.0.2 etc? Especially since we've been patching a few things lately that are bound to catch other people out... > > If we did then there's lots to consider but does the benefits outweigh the risks? > > Should we also build a backup option that will zip everything up, backup database and send a download link when complete? That then leads on to a restore from backup? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > I might on Friday, but time to write code is hard to find at the minute > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 03 July 2013 16:37 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > > I?ll look at it if I get a chance? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:34 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > > I thought so. Bit busy to test the moment? > > If they want to do more than trivial changes, the best thing will be to look at application.js, and the custom stylesheet in the template itself. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 03 July 2013 15:20 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in Bootstrap > Importance: High > > Hi Julian, > > Are these wired up yet? I couldn?t get anything that I put into these two fields to appear in my resulting LO source? Someone in the Forum was asking about changing the look? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Jul 4 15:55:05 2013 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 15:55:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <056201ce78c6$7909dbb0$6b1d9310$@co.uk> This is a can of works because I'm not sure how any such manifest would take care of local tweaks and customisations. It's a regular challenge for me upgrading installations e.g. I often update from svn, export to a local folder, create a copy of that exported folder and remove certain files and folders before uploading to the server e.g. I often remove the following before uploading: error_logs import setup USER-FILES auth_config.php Library/Xerte/Authentication/Static.php modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/common/styles.css modules/xerte/templates/Nottingham/data.xml and in some cases website_code/images website_code/styles A 'clean upgrade' is relatively easy as long as you know what files and folders to leave in place including backing up directories and database first. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 03 July 2013 22:31 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? Hmmm... I know what your saying but perhaps not as easy to orchestrate when in installed in server root as when installed in a sub-folder that can be switched... I'm sure it can be done in other ways though involving manifests and tracking/backing-up changed/added/deleted files... This might be where Tom's script for building packages from svn could create a usable manifest of changes between Revisions and uswest that to build a sub-version... I'll look at how the major players (wordpress/drupal/moodle/joomla) do it and feed back to the list... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: when i weighed up how to upgrade our install, I wanted to be able to make a clean install, and then migrate the user data into it. Then I was sure I was running a clean 2.0. There were quite a lot of changed files, and structures, so installing over the top would have left a lot of litter, and we already had quite a lot left over from 1.7 - 1.8 - 1.9 upgrades, which were all over the top, with a bit of tweaking. Technically it was tricky because we were trying to run two installs sharing one install's settings, so paths didn't work, for example - so we had to take a plunge and switch it all over - we had established the main things were working though. I think it would be great if we could devise a process that went along that 'clean install but exissting data' road. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 03 July 2013 20:08 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? Yeah Tom and its great. I use it often... How easy was it to setup? Can a similar thing be done so that we get semi-regular releases with the next release being incremental from the previous? And could a manifest of changes be created (in xml say) that would list the added, deleted unchanged files? Would automating these things potentially break peoples installs? I want to make it easy to setup and patch often but not so easy to shut down someone's server... We could do a kind of rollback i suppose... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Tom Reijnders wrote: There is an automatic build of an update .zip with all the patches since the release. That is far as we got. Tom Op 3-7-2013 20:09, Smith, John schreef: > Has this every been discussed or considered? > > We've people coming on the forum still using v1.7 - should we now build in an auto updater to make updates easy and even more frequent, such as v2.0.1, v2.0.2 etc? Especially since we've been patching a few things lately that are bound to catch other people out... > > If we did then there's lots to consider but does the benefits outweigh the risks? > > Should we also build a backup option that will zip everything up, backup database and send a download link when complete? That then leads on to a restore from backup? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > I might on Friday, but time to write code is hard to find at the > minute > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 03 July 2013 16:37 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in > Bootstrap > > I'll look at it if I get a chance. > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:34 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in > Bootstrap > > I thought so. Bit busy to test the moment. > > If they want to do more than trivial changes, the best thing will be to look at application.js, and the custom stylesheet in the template itself. > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 03 July 2013 15:20 > To: > xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk uk> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in > Bootstrap > Importance: High > > Hi Julian, > > Are these wired up yet? I couldn't get anything that I put into these > two fields to appear in my resulting LO source. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Fri Jul 5 08:33:34 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 08:33:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? In-Reply-To: <056201ce78c6$7909dbb0$6b1d9310$@co.uk> References: <056201ce78c6$7909dbb0$6b1d9310$@co.uk> Message-ID: <7322E395-1A14-45DF-9F23-93441D2BD444@pgogywebstuff.com> Auto update wouldn't need to update everything. Most of the changes would be in website code and modules You should be able to drop those over the top? On 4 Jul 2013, at 15:55, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > This is a can of works because I'm not sure how any such manifest would take > care of local tweaks and customisations. It's a regular challenge for me > upgrading installations e.g. I often update from svn, export to a local > folder, create a copy of that exported folder and remove certain files and > folders before uploading to the server e.g. I often remove the following > before uploading: > > error_logs > import > setup > USER-FILES > auth_config.php > Library/Xerte/Authentication/Static.php > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/common/styles.css > modules/xerte/templates/Nottingham/data.xml > and in some cases > website_code/images > website_code/styles > > A 'clean upgrade' is relatively easy as long as you know what files and > folders to leave in place including backing up directories and database > first. > > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 03 July 2013 22:31 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? > > Hmmm... I know what your saying but perhaps not as easy to orchestrate when > in installed in server root as when installed in a sub-folder that can be > switched... > > I'm sure it can be done in other ways though involving manifests and > tracking/backing-up changed/added/deleted files... > > This might be where Tom's script for building packages from svn could create > a usable manifest of changes between Revisions and uswest that to build a > sub-version... > > I'll look at how the major players (wordpress/drupal/moodle/joomla) do it > and feed back to the list... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > when i weighed up how to upgrade our install, I wanted to be able to make a > clean install, and then migrate the user data into it. Then I was sure I was > running a clean 2.0. There were quite a lot of changed files, and > structures, so installing over the top would have left a lot of litter, and > we already had quite a lot left over from 1.7 - 1.8 - 1.9 upgrades, which > were all over the top, with a bit of tweaking. Technically it was tricky > because we were trying to run two installs sharing one install's settings, > so paths didn't work, for example - so we had to take a plunge and switch it > all over - we had established the main things were working though. I think > it would be great if we could devise a process that went along that 'clean > install but exissting data' road. > > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 03 July 2013 20:08 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore? > > Yeah Tom and its great. I use it often... > > How easy was it to setup? Can a similar thing be done so that we get > semi-regular releases with the next release being incremental from the > previous? And could a manifest of changes be created (in xml say) that would > list the added, deleted unchanged files? > > Would automating these things potentially break peoples installs? I want to > make it easy to setup and patch often but not so easy to shut down someone's > server... We could do a kind of rollback i suppose... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Tom Reijnders wrote: > > > There is an automatic build of an update .zip with all the patches since the > release. That is far as we got. > > Tom > > Op 3-7-2013 20:09, Smith, John schreef: >> Has this every been discussed or considered? >> >> We've people coming on the forum still using v1.7 - should we now build in > an auto updater to make updates easy and even more frequent, such as v2.0.1, > v2.0.2 etc? Especially since we've been patching a few things lately that > are bound to catch other people out... >> >> If we did then there's lots to consider but does the benefits outweigh the > risks? >> >> Should we also build a backup option that will zip everything up, backup > database and send a download link when complete? That then leads on to a > restore from backup? >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> >> I might on Friday, but time to write code is hard to find at the >> minute >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 03 July 2013 16:37 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in >> Bootstrap >> >> I'll look at it if I get a chance. >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:34 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in >> Bootstrap >> >> I thought so. Bit busy to test the moment. >> >> If they want to do more than trivial changes, the best thing will be to > look at application.js, and the custom stylesheet in the template itself. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 03 July 2013 15:20 >> To: >> xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> uk> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in >> Bootstrap >> Importance: High >> >> Hi Julian, >> >> Are these wired up yet? I couldn't get anything that I put into these >> two fields to appear in my resulting LO source. Someone in the Forum >> was asking about changing the look. >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number >> SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the > Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 >> 219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career > Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland > partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 >> 5691,en.html >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sun Jul 7 15:53:41 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:53:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Latest Changes to Trunk R1025 to fix IE6/7 and IE9/10 rendering - hope I haven't broken anything else!! Message-ID: Hi, I've made some changes to rloObject.htm (basically the play page) which displays the templates and has, in IE, been restricted to rendering everything in IE8 compatible mode since release - using the tag This has meant that IE9 and IE10 have never been fully supported and was most notable with the textDrawing page... This has now been patched and textDrawing should now work in IE9 / 10 and I've fixed the lower button issue that some may have seen in IE6 and 7 with the above tag removed... To do this i've changed the tag to: in order to give us the best chance of fixing all the padding/margin/flow layout inconsistencies across the IE range... no-js is also in there in case we want to somehow deal with javascriptless browsers in the future... The other most notable changes to that file are that i'm loading jquery from the Google CDN with local copy backup and that all the script loads are now at the end of the file, as per current advice, except for the one straight after which replaces 'no-js' with 'js', which is redundant at present until we use the .no-js/.js tags, but it's also fairly harmless... Please test as i've only really tested with a subset of pages and with IE6/7/8/9/10 and Firefox/Chrome/Safari latest versions... If you have time then www.browserstack.com is great for testing old browsers (it even works with localhost via a tunnel) and you get a clear cache each time you change browser!! 3 months free trial too... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sun Jul 7 16:45:17 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 16:45:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Does XOT support multisite? Message-ID: Really my question is: Is there ever more than 1 row in the sitedetails table? If not then i'm proposing that we change it to 'site_options' (not set on that name!!)... and make it similar to the 3 column options table in Wordpress... i'll explain... We already have this sitedetails table which whenever we need to add a new option has to be ALTERed to include a new column, basically it's the wrong way round... also we have a mish mash of things in there, base64 encoded stuff, etc... Wordpress stores numbers/strings/objects/arrays/etc by serialising/unserialising them Additionally we have the config table. I know it stores the database version for upgrade but couldn't this also be an 'option' of the site_options table? Then there is the api... to make that work I need an api_keys table and an api_nonces table and then of course an api_options table, but I could theoretically store these in the options table... Then there is the plugins... these were never fully explored but I will once I get time... but to do it properly we would really need to create an activate/deactivate controller and again some options for this would need stored... Then there's Pat's extend code... probably as this builds we will need to keep track of things to make this work best... I'm all for the upgrade path that we have just now backup-dropover-upgrade and upgrade can probably even handle this table migration. Also, i'm not even suggesting we do this for v2.1 as there's probably already enough to go in this for a end of summer (??) release but what does everyone think? Is it a good idea before we end up with lots of standalone options tables? Should we aim for v2.2?? And I know it will be a lot of work to get it right but mainly the loading of all the options currently takes place in config and still could... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Sun Jul 7 18:05:37 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:05:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Does XOT support multisite? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <073FB4F9-6ACC-4662-88CB-D6EF9CA382EB@pgogywebstuff.com> Site details was an error A more wordpress settings table makes sense On 7 Jul 2013, at 16:45, "Smith, John" wrote: > Really my question is: Is there ever more than 1 row in the sitedetails table? If not then i'm proposing that we change it to 'site_options' (not set on that name!!)... and make it similar to the 3 column options table in Wordpress... i'll explain... > > We already have this sitedetails table which whenever we need to add a new option has to be ALTERed to include a new column, basically it's the wrong way round... also we have a mish mash of things in there, base64 encoded stuff, etc... Wordpress stores numbers/strings/objects/arrays/etc by serialising/unserialising them > > Additionally we have the config table. I know it stores the database version for upgrade but couldn't this also be an 'option' of the site_options table? > > Then there is the api... to make that work I need an api_keys table and an api_nonces table and then of course an api_options table, but I could theoretically store these in the options table... > > Then there is the plugins... these were never fully explored but I will once I get time... but to do it properly we would really need to create an activate/deactivate controller and again some options for this would need stored... > > Then there's Pat's extend code... probably as this builds we will need to keep track of things to make this work best... > > I'm all for the upgrade path that we have just now backup-dropover-upgrade and upgrade can probably even handle this table migration. Also, i'm not even suggesting we do this for v2.1 as there's probably already enough to go in this for a end of summer (??) release but what does everyone think? Is it a good idea before we end up with lots of standalone options tables? Should we aim for v2.2?? > > And I know it will be a lot of work to get it right but mainly the loading of all the options currently takes place in config and still could... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sun Jul 7 19:05:38 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 19:05:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Does XOT support multisite? In-Reply-To: <073FB4F9-6ACC-4662-88CB-D6EF9CA382EB@pgogywebstuff.com> References: , <073FB4F9-6ACC-4662-88CB-D6EF9CA382EB@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Och error or not it has done the job Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 07 July 2013 18:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Does XOT support multisite? Site details was an error A more wordpress settings table makes sense On 7 Jul 2013, at 16:45, "Smith, John" wrote: > Really my question is: Is there ever more than 1 row in the sitedetails table? If not then i'm proposing that we change it to 'site_options' (not set on that name!!)... and make it similar to the 3 column options table in Wordpress... i'll explain... > > We already have this sitedetails table which whenever we need to add a new option has to be ALTERed to include a new column, basically it's the wrong way round... also we have a mish mash of things in there, base64 encoded stuff, etc... Wordpress stores numbers/strings/objects/arrays/etc by serialising/unserialising them > > Additionally we have the config table. I know it stores the database version for upgrade but couldn't this also be an 'option' of the site_options table? > > Then there is the api... to make that work I need an api_keys table and an api_nonces table and then of course an api_options table, but I could theoretically store these in the options table... > > Then there is the plugins... these were never fully explored but I will once I get time... but to do it properly we would really need to create an activate/deactivate controller and again some options for this would need stored... > > Then there's Pat's extend code... probably as this builds we will need to keep track of things to make this work best... > > I'm all for the upgrade path that we have just now backup-dropover-upgrade and upgrade can probably even handle this table migration. Also, i'm not even suggesting we do this for v2.1 as there's probably already enough to go in this for a end of summer (??) release but what does everyone think? Is it a good idea before we end up with lots of standalone options tables? Should we aim for v2.2?? > > And I know it will be a lot of work to get it right but mainly the loading of all the options currently takes place in config and still could... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jul 8 21:46:45 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 21:46:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Where do you enter the password for password protected templates? Message-ID: I thought a box would appear when you click the password checkbox... but it doesn't... should it? or does the password go somewhere less obvious? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jul 8 22:23:42 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 22:23:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Where do you enter the password for password protected templates? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It uses the authentication system you've set up So ldap etc On 8 Jul 2013, at 21:46, "Smith, John" wrote: > I thought a box would appear when you click the password checkbox... but it doesn't... should it? or does the password go somewhere less obvious? > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jul 8 22:24:51 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 22:24:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Where do you enter the password for password protected templates? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Ah right... now that I've read that message underneath again it makes sense... d'oh! Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 08 July 2013 22:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Where do you enter the password for password protected templates? It uses the authentication system you've set up So ldap etc On 8 Jul 2013, at 21:46, "Smith, John" wrote: > I thought a box would appear when you click the password checkbox... but it doesn't... should it? or does the password go somewhere less obvious? > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 06:55:38 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 06:55:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Bootstrap Question Message-ID: So I created a simple page with bootstrap and had a look at the xml and see this:
My question is, why has it split the text between 2
As you can see, now the first text block is no longer split and neither is the second??? Just curious as to why and whether it is a bug that could bite us in the future? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 08:11:40 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:11:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Message-ID: Hi, I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:19:29 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:19:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF3C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'll check that out. If it is a bug, it's a bug that will affect every text node from the wizard, i.e. any node that stores text in the
My question is, why has it split the text between 2
As you can see, now the first text block is no longer split and neither is the second??? Just curious as to why and whether it is a bug that could bite us in the future? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:20:13 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:20:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Thumbnail image sizes have doubled... should we roll these back? Message-ID: Hi, Sorry for all the emails recently, I've had a load of these things on a list to look at and just clearing them while I can... Anyway, I've been looking at differences between trunk/v2 in case we've missed any important bug fixes and noticed that the thumbnail images sizes have changed significantly for some reason (see attached screenshot). Now I know it's only 5-6kb each but there are a lot of them to come down and there doesn't appear to be any notable change in dimensions/quality so wondering why that is and whether we should just roll these back to save the 300+kb of download and bandwidth? Or, should we just bite the bullet and update these to the HTML5 views for v2.1? Do you have a date in mind for this Julian as i'd like to get a few things done before then but not sure of the time i'll have over holidays... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:23:41 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:23:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Thumbnail image sizes have doubled... should we roll these back? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF44@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think the thumbs should be HTML5 ones. I'll do that. Let's start a new thread on 2.1. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:20 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Thumbnail image sizes have doubled... should we roll these back? Importance: High Hi, Sorry for all the emails recently, I've had a load of these things on a list to look at and just clearing them while I can... Anyway, I've been looking at differences between trunk/v2 in case we've missed any important bug fixes and noticed that the thumbnail images sizes have changed significantly for some reason (see attached screenshot). Now I know it's only 5-6kb each but there are a lot of them to come down and there doesn't appear to be any notable change in dimensions/quality so wondering why that is and whether we should just roll these back to save the 300+kb of download and bandwidth? Or, should we just bite the bullet and update these to the HTML5 views for v2.1? Do you have a date in mind for this Julian as i'd like to get a few things done before then but not sure of the time i'll have over holidays... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:23:52 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:23:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF45@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Thanks. I've been putting pretty much everything into 2.0 that I think is safe or fixes things, but I haven't put a lot into either recently. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Hi, I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:20:48 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:20:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF3C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF3C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I just found it odd that it does it on the first one but then when you have 2 (even when you copy the one that had the issue) it then doesn't happen... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I'll check that out. If it is a bug, it's a bug that will affect every text node from the wizard, i.e. any node that stores text in the
My question is, why has it split the text between 2
As you can see, now the first text block is no longer split and neither is the second??? Just curious as to why and whether it is a bug that could bite us in the future? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:30:48 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:30:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF3C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF52@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> How do you replicate it? This looks OK... [cid:image001.png at 01CE7C86.FEF2A5E0] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I just found it odd that it does it on the first one but then when you have 2 (even when you copy the one that had the issue) it then doesn't happen... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I'll check that out. If it is a bug, it's a bug that will affect every text node from the wizard, i.e. any node that stores text in the [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 06:56 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Bootstrap Question Importance: High So I created a simple page with bootstrap and had a look at the xml and see this:
My question is, why has it split the text between 2
As you can see, now the first text block is no longer split and neither is the second??? Just curious as to why and whether it is a bug that could bite us in the future? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Thanks. I've been putting pretty much everything into 2.0 that I think is safe or fixes things, but I haven't put a lot into either recently. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Hi, I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:33:12 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:33:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF45@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF58@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I noticed the images had changed, but didn't know why. Who committed them? I thought someone must have thought to switch them to html5 views, but never checked. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 I pushed that last change you made to textGraphics (adding the title tooltip) in this morning... Nikodem made a fix (looks like a fix) back on 26th June that I don't see in v2 yet but haven't moved that yet just in case (can you ask?)... there's not that many things actually, most are these image changes - not sure why the file sizes changed though even if they were re-committed... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Thanks. I've been putting pretty much everything into 2.0 that I think is safe or fixes things, but I haven't put a lot into either recently. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Hi, I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:41:00 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:41:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF52@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF3C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF52@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I did exactly what you seem to have done... Might depend on the amount of text or something... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question How do you replicate it? This looks OK? [cid:image001.png at 01CE7C86.FEF2A5E0] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I just found it odd that it does it on the first one but then when you have 2 (even when you copy the one that had the issue) it then doesn't happen... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I'll check that out. If it is a bug, it's a bug that will affect every text node from the wizard, i.e. any node that stores text in the [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 06:56 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Bootstrap Question Importance: High So I created a simple page with bootstrap and had a look at the xml and see this:
My question is, why has it split the text between 2
As you can see, now the first text block is no longer split and neither is the second??? Just curious as to why and whether it is a bug that could bite us in the future? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:44:44 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:44:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF3C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF52@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Surely we'd have noticed it before now if there was a problem? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I did exactly what you seem to have done... Might depend on the amount of text or something... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question How do you replicate it? This looks OK... [cid:image001.png at 01CE7C86.FEF2A5E0] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I just found it odd that it does it on the first one but then when you have 2 (even when you copy the one that had the issue) it then doesn't happen... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I'll check that out. If it is a bug, it's a bug that will affect every text node from the wizard, i.e. any node that stores text in the [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 06:56 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Bootstrap Question Importance: High So I created a simple page with bootstrap and had a look at the xml and see this:
My question is, why has it split the text between 2
As you can see, now the first text block is no longer split and neither is the second??? Just curious as to why and whether it is a bug that could bite us in the future? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:43:42 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:43:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF58@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF45@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF58@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Seems it was Pat on the 9th June... they didn't all change, just some... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 I noticed the images had changed, but didn't know why. Who committed them? I thought someone must have thought to switch them to html5 views, but never checked. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 I pushed that last change you made to textGraphics (adding the title tooltip) in this morning... Nikodem made a fix (looks like a fix) back on 26th June that I don't see in v2 yet but haven't moved that yet just in case (can you ask?)... there's not that many things actually, most are these image changes - not sure why the file sizes changed though even if they were re-committed... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Thanks. I've been putting pretty much everything into 2.0 that I think is safe or fixes things, but I haven't put a lot into either recently. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Hi, I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:49:00 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:49:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps - there isn't so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we've started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there... Thoughts? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:52:34 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:52:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF93@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> How do you bring up that diff? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Hi, I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 09:54:06 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:54:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF3C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF52@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yeah, I now can't reproduce... could have resolved itself after a cache refresh or a trunk update... but I was only possibly a revision or 2 out this morning when it happened... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question Surely we'd have noticed it before now if there was a problem? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I did exactly what you seem to have done... Might depend on the amount of text or something... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question How do you replicate it? This looks OK... [cid:image001.png at 01CE7C86.FEF2A5E0] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I just found it odd that it does it on the first one but then when you have 2 (even when you copy the one that had the issue) it then doesn't happen... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I'll check that out. If it is a bug, it's a bug that will affect every text node from the wizard, i.e. any node that stores text in the [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 06:56 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Bootstrap Question Importance: High So I created a simple page with bootstrap and had a look at the xml and see this:
My question is, why has it split the text between 2
As you can see, now the first text block is no longer split and neither is the second??? Just curious as to why and whether it is a bug that could bite us in the future? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 10:01:19 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:01:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF3C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF52@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CFA7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Odd though. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:54 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question Yeah, I now can't reproduce... could have resolved itself after a cache refresh or a trunk update... but I was only possibly a revision or 2 out this morning when it happened... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question Surely we'd have noticed it before now if there was a problem? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I did exactly what you seem to have done... Might depend on the amount of text or something... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question How do you replicate it? This looks OK... [cid:image001.png at 01CE7C86.FEF2A5E0] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 09:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I just found it odd that it does it on the first one but then when you have 2 (even when you copy the one that had the issue) it then doesn't happen... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Bootstrap Question I'll check that out. If it is a bug, it's a bug that will affect every text node from the wizard, i.e. any node that stores text in the [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 06:56 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Bootstrap Question Importance: High So I created a simple page with bootstrap and had a look at the xml and see this:
My question is, why has it split the text between 2
As you can see, now the first text block is no longer split and neither is the second??? Just curious as to why and whether it is a bug that could bite us in the future? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 10:11:45 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:11:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF93@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF93@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Right click on a checked out folder Go to Tortoise menu and select Repo-browser Expand the tree on the left so that you can see both trunk and 2.0 Right click trunk and select 'Mark for comparison' The right click on 2.0 and select 'Compare URLs' Brings up a new window with the different files... not figured out how to turn off whitespace compare in that step but you can when you compare individual files using the icon on the menu when you right click and choose "Compare revisions" Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 How do you bring up that diff? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Hi, I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 10:20:07 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:20:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF93@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Meant to say - i've not pushed the favicons over yet - wasn't happy with the edit icon - feel free to come up with a better one ;-) Also, some of the website_code changes are my API changes to the properties panel... not pushed them over yet either since it's only half complete... Also moov relocator code in upload isn't in v2.0 yet since i've not fully tested it due to lack of problematic mp4s... So ignore those for now... I think all of my other fixes are in v2.0 though... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 10:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Right click on a checked out folder Go to Tortoise menu and select Repo-browser Expand the tree on the left so that you can see both trunk and 2.0 Right click trunk and select 'Mark for comparison' The right click on 2.0 and select 'Compare URLs' Brings up a new window with the different files... not figured out how to turn off whitespace compare in that step but you can when you compare individual files using the icon on the menu when you right click and choose "Compare revisions" Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 How do you bring up that diff? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Hi, I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 10:24:43 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:24:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF93@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CFD8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Cheers. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 10:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Right click on a checked out folder Go to Tortoise menu and select Repo-browser Expand the tree on the left so that you can see both trunk and 2.0 Right click trunk and select 'Mark for comparison' The right click on 2.0 and select 'Compare URLs' Brings up a new window with the different files... not figured out how to turn off whitespace compare in that step but you can when you compare individual files using the icon on the menu when you right click and choose "Compare revisions" Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 09 July 2013 09:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 How do you bring up that diff? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Hi, I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jul 9 10:00:04 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:00:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF45@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF58@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <471DDFB5-7C72-4ED8-9031-49F3DD51F9C6@pgogywebstuff.com> Never knowing changed any images, unless it was for module inheritance, but I don't remember explicitly changing anything - what came from the svn want back to the svn On 9 Jul 2013, at 09:43, "Smith, John" wrote: > Seems it was Pat on the 9th June... they didn't all change, just some... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > I noticed the images had changed, but didn't know why. Who committed them? I thought someone must have thought to switch them to html5 views, but never checked. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > I pushed that last change you made to textGraphics (adding the title tooltip) in this morning... > > Nikodem made a fix (looks like a fix) back on 26th June that I don't see in v2 yet but haven't moved that yet just in case (can you ask?)... there's not that many things actually, most are these image changes - not sure why the file sizes changed though even if they were re-committed... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > Thanks. I've been putting pretty much everything into 2.0 that I think is safe or fixes things, but I haven't put a lot into either recently. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > Hi, > > I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... > > It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 10:28:35 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:28:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 In-Reply-To: <471DDFB5-7C72-4ED8-9031-49F3DD51F9C6@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF45@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF58@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <471DDFB5-7C72-4ED8-9031-49F3DD51F9C6@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CFE5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Don't worry, I'll swap them for html5 ones [there goes an afternoon I'll never get back...] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 10:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Never knowing changed any images, unless it was for module inheritance, but I don't remember explicitly changing anything - what came from the svn want back to the svn On 9 Jul 2013, at 09:43, "Smith, John" wrote: > Seems it was Pat on the 9th June... they didn't all change, just some... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > I noticed the images had changed, but didn't know why. Who committed them? I thought someone must have thought to switch them to html5 views, but never checked. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > I pushed that last change you made to textGraphics (adding the title tooltip) in this morning... > > Nikodem made a fix (looks like a fix) back on 26th June that I don't see in v2 yet but haven't moved that yet just in case (can you ask?)... there's not that many things actually, most are these image changes - not sure why the file sizes changed though even if they were re-committed... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > Thanks. I've been putting pretty much everything into 2.0 that I think is safe or fixes things, but I haven't put a lot into either recently. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > Hi, > > I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... > > It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 12:25:40 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:25:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Message-ID: <5kkapln25a3cdbllt6etei3j.1373368848223@email.android.com> Didn't think it was intentional... I actually thought it was Fay as I remember seeing that she had committed some example models... Wouldn't mind knowing what could have change them on your machine though?!? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Never knowing changed any images, unless it was for module inheritance, but I don't remember explicitly changing anything - what came from the svn want back to the svn On 9 Jul 2013, at 09:43, "Smith, John" wrote: > Seems it was Pat on the 9th June... they didn't all change, just some... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > I noticed the images had changed, but didn't know why. Who committed them? I thought someone must have thought to switch them to html5 views, but never checked. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > I pushed that last change you made to textGraphics (adding the title tooltip) in this morning... > > Nikodem made a fix (looks like a fix) back on 26th June that I don't see in v2 yet but haven't moved that yet just in case (can you ask?)... there's not that many things actually, most are these image changes - not sure why the file sizes changed though even if they were re-committed... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > Thanks. I've been putting pretty much everything into 2.0 that I think is safe or fixes things, but I haven't put a lot into either recently. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > Hi, > > I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... > > It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 12:55:50 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:55:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 In-Reply-To: <471DDFB5-7C72-4ED8-9031-49F3DD51F9C6@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF45@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF58@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <471DDFB5-7C72-4ED8-9031-49F3DD51F9C6@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Yeah... a lot of images potentially changed - and none really associated with your App Store code changes... very strange... 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diff Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 10:00 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Never knowing changed any images, unless it was for module inheritance, but I don't remember explicitly changing anything - what came from the svn want back to the svn On 9 Jul 2013, at 09:43, "Smith, John" wrote: > Seems it was Pat on the 9th June... they didn't all change, just some... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > I noticed the images had changed, but didn't know why. Who committed them? I thought someone must have thought to switch them to html5 views, but never checked. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > I pushed that last change you made to textGraphics (adding the title tooltip) in this morning... > > Nikodem made a fix (looks like a fix) back on 26th June that I don't see in v2 yet but haven't moved that yet just in case (can you ask?)... there's not that many things actually, most are these image changes - not sure why the file sizes changed though even if they were re-committed... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > Thanks. I've been putting pretty much everything into 2.0 that I think is safe or fixes things, but I haven't put a lot into either recently. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > Hi, > > I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... > > It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 12:55:50 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:55:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 In-Reply-To: <471DDFB5-7C72-4ED8-9031-49F3DD51F9C6@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF45@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF58@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <471DDFB5-7C72-4ED8-9031-49F3DD51F9C6@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Yeah... a lot of images potentially changed - and none really associated with your App Store code changes... very strange... 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diff Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 10:00 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 Never knowing changed any images, unless it was for module inheritance, but I don't remember explicitly changing anything - what came from the svn want back to the svn On 9 Jul 2013, at 09:43, "Smith, John" wrote: > Seems it was Pat on the 9th June... they didn't all change, just some... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > I noticed the images had changed, but didn't know why. Who committed them? I thought someone must have thought to switch them to html5 views, but never checked. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > I pushed that last change you made to textGraphics (adding the title tooltip) in this morning... > > Nikodem made a fix (looks like a fix) back on 26th June that I don't see in v2 yet but haven't moved that yet just in case (can you ask?)... there's not that many things actually, most are these image changes - not sure why the file sizes changed though even if they were re-committed... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > Thanks. I've been putting pretty much everything into 2.0 that I think is safe or fixes things, but I haven't put a lot into either recently. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > Hi, > > I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... > > It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 13:35:35 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:35:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Possible Issue (maybe) with Xenith.js Message-ID: Hi (this is probably for Nikodem), I saw a console error in xenith.js yesterday when debugging a video issue from the Forum that I can't seem to reproduce (and can't even remember which browser it was in, perhaps a Mac or Linux on...) but it might be worth keeping an eye out for if you are developing any of the javascript engine... >From memory, this code appeared to be the culprit (but as I say it's not doing it in Chrome or Firefox now after recent trunk updates) - Lines 145-160 R1031 if (x_pages.length < 2) { // don't show navigation options if there's only one page $("#x_footerBlock .x_floatRight").remove(); } else { if (x_params.navigation == undefined) { x_params.navigation = "Linear"; } if (x_params.navigation != "Linear" && x_params.navigation != "Historic" && x_params.navigation != undefined) { // 1st page is menu x_pages.splice(0, 0, "menu"); var page = new Object(); page.type = "menu"; page.built = false; x_pageInfo.splice(0, 0, page); } } Basically Fay added this code in to hide the navigation when there is only one page. However, it seems to me anyway that, when there's more than 1 template page the page object is created and page.type and page.built are set... these are then used later on... but they give an undefined console error when there is only one page as page hasn't been defined... This is the last thing on my list before getting back to working on the API and making a proper start on the HTML5 editor so would appreciate it if you had time to take a quick look and see if you can reproduce and fix... PS, Fay probably passed on the google doc bug/features sheets to you before she left. If you are planning to keep them relatively up to date with the Javascript engine developments then I will usually dip in there when I need a welcome break from PHP and give you a hand... alternatively if want a fresh pair of eyes casting over any code then just drop me an email on or off list... 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 13:58:28 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:58:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible Issue (maybe) with Xenith.js In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh and meant to ask you Nikodem, Do you have any plans to do the Scenario connector? Is that the last outstanding page type Julian - it's on my list (but really low on my priorities) but would be nice to draw a line under them... Also I'd appreciate any feedback on the rendering of the Javascript engine in IE6/7/8/9/10 since my R1028 changes, or even just to test it on some more examples - you can use BrowserStack.com for any browsers that you don't have access to... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 1:36 PM To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Possible Issue (maybe) with Xenith.js Importance: High Hi (this is probably for Nikodem), I saw a console error in xenith.js yesterday when debugging a video issue from the Forum that I can't seem to reproduce (and can't even remember which browser it was in, perhaps a Mac or Linux on...) but it might be worth keeping an eye out for if you are developing any of the javascript engine... >From memory, this code appeared to be the culprit (but as I say it's not doing it in Chrome or Firefox now after recent trunk updates) - Lines 145-160 R1031 if (x_pages.length < 2) { // don't show navigation options if there's only one page $("#x_footerBlock .x_floatRight").remove(); } else { if (x_params.navigation == undefined) { x_params.navigation = "Linear"; } if (x_params.navigation != "Linear" && x_params.navigation != "Historic" && x_params.navigation != undefined) { // 1st page is menu x_pages.splice(0, 0, "menu"); var page = new Object(); page.type = "menu"; page.built = false; x_pageInfo.splice(0, 0, page); } } Basically Fay added this code in to hide the navigation when there is only one page. However, it seems to me anyway that, when there's more than 1 template page the page object is created and page.type and page.built are set... these are then used later on... but they give an undefined console error when there is only one page as page hasn't been defined... This is the last thing on my list before getting back to working on the API and making a proper start on the HTML5 editor so would appreciate it if you had time to take a quick look and see if you can reproduce and fix... PS, Fay probably passed on the google doc bug/features sheets to you before she left. If you are planning to keep them relatively up to date with the Javascript engine developments then I will usually dip in there when I need a welcome break from PHP and give you a hand... alternatively if want a fresh pair of eyes casting over any code then just drop me an email on or off list... 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If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no 'BIG LAUNCH' and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! >From memory we'll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release - people won't update unless they think they need to... but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway... ramble over... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps - there isn't so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we've started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there... Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Also I'd appreciate any feedback on the rendering of the Javascript engine in IE6/7/8/9/10 since my R1028 changes, or even just to test it on some more examples - you can use BrowserStack.com for any browsers that you don't have access to... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 1:36 PM To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Possible Issue (maybe) with Xenith.js Importance: High Hi (this is probably for Nikodem), I saw a console error in xenith.js yesterday when debugging a video issue from the Forum that I can't seem to reproduce (and can't even remember which browser it was in, perhaps a Mac or Linux on...) but it might be worth keeping an eye out for if you are developing any of the javascript engine... >From memory, this code appeared to be the culprit (but as I say it's not doing it in Chrome or Firefox now after recent trunk updates) - Lines 145-160 R1031 if (x_pages.length < 2) { // don't show navigation options if there's only one page $("#x_footerBlock .x_floatRight").remove(); } else { if (x_params.navigation == undefined) { x_params.navigation = "Linear"; } if (x_params.navigation != "Linear" && x_params.navigation != "Historic" && x_params.navigation != undefined) { // 1st page is menu x_pages.splice(0, 0, "menu"); var page = new Object(); page.type = "menu"; page.built = false; x_pageInfo.splice(0, 0, page); } } Basically Fay added this code in to hide the navigation when there is only one page. However, it seems to me anyway that, when there's more than 1 template page the page object is created and page.type and page.built are set... these are then used later on... but they give an undefined console error when there is only one page as page hasn't been defined... This is the last thing on my list before getting back to working on the API and making a proper start on the HTML5 editor so would appreciate it if you had time to take a quick look and see if you can reproduce and fix... PS, Fay probably passed on the google doc bug/features sheets to you before she left. If you are planning to keep them relatively up to date with the Javascript engine developments then I will usually dip in there when I need a welcome break from PHP and give you a hand... alternatively if want a fresh pair of eyes casting over any code then just drop me an email on or off list... 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 9 15:16:54 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 15:16:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D271@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, that sounds sensible. I've committed all the HTML thumbnails. There are a few I've left: inventory (I can't see how to add this?), indexChanger (?) Xerte, and Scenario, which don't have html5 models From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 09 July 2013 13:54 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now... API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release... If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no 'BIG LAUNCH' and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! >From memory we'll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release - people won't update unless they think they need to... but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway... ramble over... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps - there isn't so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we've started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there... Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 10:00 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 > > Never knowing changed any images, unless it was for module inheritance, but I don't remember explicitly changing anything - what came from the svn want back to the svn > > On 9 Jul 2013, at 09:43, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Seems it was Pat on the 9th June... they didn't all change, just some... >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | >> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >> Sent: 09 July 2013 09:33 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 >> >> I noticed the images had changed, but didn't know why. Who committed them? I thought someone must have thought to switch them to html5 views, but never checked. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 09 July 2013 09:27 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 >> >> I pushed that last change you made to textGraphics (adding the title tooltip) in this morning... >> >> Nikodem made a fix (looks like a fix) back on 26th June that I don't see in v2 yet but haven't moved that yet just in case (can you ask?)... there's not that many things actually, most are these image changes - not sure why the file sizes changed though even if they were re-committed... >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | >> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >> Sent: 09 July 2013 09:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 >> >> Thanks. I've been putting pretty much everything into 2.0 that I think is safe or fixes things, but I haven't put a lot into either recently. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 09 July 2013 08:12 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes in trunk that aren't in v2 >> >> Hi, >> >> I've just been going through the differences between trunk and v2 with the aim to make sure all my 'fixes' are in v2 as well as trunk (but trying to leave any new features in trunk only) and i'm seeing a few differences like MathJax includes that I'm thinking are probably fixes and should be in v2 but have been skipped... but i'm not always 100% sure... >> >> It would be good if people could look through the differences for their own changes and make a decision as to whether it should go into v2.0 or wait for v2.1 ? It's relatively easy to do in Tortoise if you don't already know how... I can show... >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | >> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number >> SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 >> 219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 >> 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number >> SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 >> 219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 >> 5691,en.html >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number >> SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 >> 219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 >> 5691,en.html _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jul 9 20:10:14 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 20:10:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" wrote: > I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? > > If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! > > From memory we?ll have: > > Stuff nearly there: > Plugins (soonish - hopefully) > App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) > API (soon) > > Longer terms stuff: > HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) > Theme (?? Dunno) > Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) > > Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 > > Anyway? ramble over? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 > > Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? > > With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: > > - API > - HTML Wizard > - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) > - +? > > But there is a lot of work in there? > > Thoughts? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 09:11:28 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:11:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D3E6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Well, 2.1 could just be a way of saying ?here?s 2.0 with the fixes since we released it?. What you say sounds good, I guess it is for you, Tom and John to think about how to set about the work? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Jul 10 10:06:41 2013 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:06:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D271@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D271@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: indexChanger was only ever for desktop Xerte so is not required for XOT. The indexChanger xwd file includes the setting restrict="develop" that should ensure that it never appears in XOT's data.xwd file. Not sure what has happened with respect to the Inventory page thumbnail as I don't know anything about why HTML5 pages have different thumbnails to the Flash pages or how to add a thumbnail to a html5 page. I thought the HTML5 and Flash versions of the page use the same xwd information and hence would access the same Thumbnail. The original thumbnail for the inventory page is still available in the Xerte SVN, but I guess you already know that. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 July 2013 15:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > OK, that sounds sensible. > > > > I?ve committed all the HTML thumbnails. There are a few I?ve left: > inventory (I can?t see how to add this?), indexChanger (?) Xerte, and > Scenario, which don?t have html5 models > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Smith, John > *Sent:* 09 July 2013 13:54 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > > > I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be > done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental > releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options > horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? > > > > If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will > have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) > they will be further!! > > > > From memory we?ll have: > > > > *Stuff nearly there:* > > Plugins (soonish - hopefully) > > App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) > > API (soon) > > > > *Longer terms stuff:* > > HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) > > Theme (?? Dunno) > > Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) > > > > Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update > unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to > automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 > > > > Anyway? ramble over? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM > *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 > > > > Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? > > > > With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a > need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and > think about 3.0, which would be: > > > > - API > > - HTML Wizard > > - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at > this) > > - +? > > > > But there is a lot of work in there? > > > > Thoughts? > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! >From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 13:05:00 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:05:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> So we?ll end up with different code for 5.3+ and code for 5.3-? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 13:11:48 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:11:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: <027901ce7d65$0a70b310$1f521930$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <027901ce7d65$0a70b310$1f521930$@co.uk> Message-ID: They?re not gone yet... re-reading the docs its actually 5.5 where they?ve being officially deprecated, they only announced plans to deprecate in 2011 at 5.3 time? ?PHP team announced plans to deprecate MySQL extension in mid 2011. Old MySQL extension officially deprecated since PHP 5.5.0 in late 2012 and it will be removed in the future. The alternatives since PHP 5 and later are MySQLi ("i" stands from "improved") and PDO (PHP Data Objects).? mysqli_* have over 100 functions compared to around 50 for the mysql_* ones so I dare say it won?t just be a case of doing a search and replace although I?m sure that there will be guidance on what we can serach/replace and what we should rewrite? We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:00 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Confused :-( I have XOT running on a number of different servers with 5.3.3 also 5.3.10 - probably later too? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 13:14:27 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:14:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <027901ce7d65$0a70b310$1f521930$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? If that?s the case then it?s not too bad, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 13:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 They?re not gone yet... re-reading the docs its actually 5.5 where they?ve being officially deprecated, they only announced plans to deprecate in 2011 at 5.3 time? ?PHP team announced plans to deprecate MySQL extension in mid 2011. Old MySQL extension officially deprecated since PHP 5.5.0 in late 2012 and it will be removed in the future. The alternatives since PHP 5 and later are MySQLi ("i" stands from "improved") and PDO (PHP Data Objects).? mysqli_* have over 100 functions compared to around 50 for the mysql_* ones so I dare say it won?t just be a case of doing a search and replace although I?m sure that there will be guidance on what we can serach/replace and what we should rewrite? We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:00 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Confused :-( I have XOT running on a number of different servers with 5.3.3 also 5.3.10 - probably later too? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 13:15:01 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:15:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Not sure when mysqli_* was fully formed? but we already don?t support under php 5.1 so if it was then then we should be fine? what do we do that requires 5.1+ anyway? Pat? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:05 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 So we?ll end up with different code for 5.3+ and code for 5.3-? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 13:17:22 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:17:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <027901ce7d65$0a70b310$1f521930$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Is it ever? ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:14 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? If that?s the case then it?s not too bad, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 13:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 They?re not gone yet... re-reading the docs its actually 5.5 where they?ve being officially deprecated, they only announced plans to deprecate in 2011 at 5.3 time? ?PHP team announced plans to deprecate MySQL extension in mid 2011. Old MySQL extension officially deprecated since PHP 5.5.0 in late 2012 and it will be removed in the future. The alternatives since PHP 5 and later are MySQLi ("i" stands from "improved") and PDO (PHP Data Objects).? mysqli_* have over 100 functions compared to around 50 for the mysql_* ones so I dare say it won?t just be a case of doing a search and replace although I?m sure that there will be guidance on what we can serach/replace and what we should rewrite? We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:00 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Confused :-( I have XOT running on a number of different servers with 5.3.3 also 5.3.10 - probably later too? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 13:25:38 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:25:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <027901ce7d65$0a70b310$1f521930$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EC8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> quite From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 13:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Is it ever? ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:14 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? If that?s the case then it?s not too bad, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 13:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 They?re not gone yet... re-reading the docs its actually 5.5 where they?ve being officially deprecated, they only announced plans to deprecate in 2011 at 5.3 time? ?PHP team announced plans to deprecate MySQL extension in mid 2011. Old MySQL extension officially deprecated since PHP 5.5.0 in late 2012 and it will be removed in the future. The alternatives since PHP 5 and later are MySQLi ("i" stands from "improved") and PDO (PHP Data Objects).? mysqli_* have over 100 functions compared to around 50 for the mysql_* ones so I dare say it won?t just be a case of doing a search and replace although I?m sure that there will be guidance on what we can serach/replace and what we should rewrite? We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:00 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Confused :-( I have XOT running on a number of different servers with 5.3.3 also 5.3.10 - probably later too? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Jul 10 13:29:11 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:29:11 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Can't remember the details, but a lower version is fatal.Found that out during a XOT reinstall. From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:15:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Not sure when mysqli_* was fully formed? but we already don?t support under php 5.1 so if it was then then we should be fine? what do we do that requires 5.1+ anyway? Pat? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:05 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 So we?ll end up with different code for 5.3+ and code for 5.3-? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! >From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 13:34:25 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:34:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Hmmm fatal... something about that doesn't sound good... ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:29 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Can't remember the details, but a lower version is fatal. Found that out during a XOT reinstall. ________________________________ From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:15:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Not sure when mysqli_* was fully formed... but we already don't support under php 5.1 so if it was then then we should be fine... what do we do that requires 5.1+ anyway? Pat? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:05 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 So we'll end up with different code for 5.3+ and code for 5.3-? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated... we'll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now... API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release... If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no 'BIG LAUNCH' and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! >From memory we'll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release - people won't update unless they think they need to... but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway... ramble over... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps - there isn't so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we've started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there... Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 15:23:50 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:23:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F51@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <005f01ce7d48$cdb595b0$6920c110$@gmail.com> <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C11@email.eastdurham.ac.uk> <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C77@email.eastdurham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F51@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Moving this over to Dev as there are a few issues going on here, maybe another one for the list Nikodem ;-) although if this isn?t happening in trunk then Fay might have fixed it I think these guys are still running v1.9 1) Coming out of full window mode, LO with audio narration causes bar to not collapse accordingly [cid:image007.jpg at 01CE7D81.7A3BDDC0] 2) Similarly going back to full screen keeps bar at smaller size?. [cid:image008.jpg at 01CE7D81.7A3BDDC0] 3) Resizing the window though snaps bar back [cid:image009.jpg at 01CE7D81.7A3BDDC0] Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:48 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) I can replicate the problems in IE. Chrome is fine though? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 10 July 2013 14:42 To: ian.hall at eastdurham.ac.uk Cc: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) http://xerte.eastdurham.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=71 Hi Ian and all There are definitely some cross browser issues on the LO link you provided (above) FireFox v 13.0.1 Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. Opera 12.1.5 Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. IE v10 Slide 5 (clickable map) didn't work Slide 9 to 14 and slide 24 had voices only - no images or text showing. The videos all worked. Google Chrome Blank white screen - couldn't get anything to show. As I understand it FireFox and Opera are the most standards compliant browsers which might explain why they work so well. Not sure what the issues are with IE and Chrome though - unfortunately they are probably the most popular browsers for many. Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Hall, Ian Sent: 10 July 2013 14:00 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Hi, We were presenting a CPD event on Xerte to college staff yesterday. Two You-tube videos embedded within the HTML 5 presentation appeared blank similarly an interactive map with hotspots added. When we switched the document to Flash everything was as normal (we lost a little formatting on one page). We use IE 9 at college. Last night I played the HTML 5 Learning Object within Chrome and it worked fine. Can anyone offer any solutions as we are looking to add an "Induction" Learning Object to our VLE in September to support the student induction programme? Thanks Ian Ian Hall Course Manager & Lecturer, Level 2 Diploma Animal Studies Direct Line: Mobile: Twitter: Skype: 0191 375 4781 07766236771 @ianhallk9 ianhallk9 Also on Twitter @EDCAnimalCare Houghall, Durham DH1 3SG Our non land based provision is delivered from our Peterlee Campus, Willerby Grove, Peterlee SR8 2RN East Durham College Where Careers Grow www.eastdurham.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 10 July 2013 11:18 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Would it be possible to find from the college which browser / version they have? It would be interesting to find out - especially if you can't replicate it at home. A -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 10 July 2013 09:38 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) HI Many thanks everyone Will try with some other browsers next time I am in the college, it was the very first page which was a straight forward image/text page [Advanced Media Image]with no additional HTML or otherscript. It opens fine on my ipad ditto open my home computer on several browsers so it must be something to do with computer setting at the college I was at.... but unless I can identify what the problem is am going to need to use Flash for demos elsewhere which is not ideal. Creating two versions is not really ideal either although is one option. Many thanks Barbara -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system Sent: 10 July 2013 00:01 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) There are 4 messages totaling 272 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query (3) 2. XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:04:53 +0000 From: Alistair McNaught > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:18:56 +0000 From: Bardell Jason > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Barbara We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:59:49 +0100 From: Ron Mitchell > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Barbara Without a URL it's difficult to help/advise. Ron -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Barbara We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:20:46 +0100 From: Barbara Nance > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) Hi Yes been made public and can be viewed in flash version Cheers Barbara On 9 Jul 2013, at 00:02, XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system > wrote: > There is 1 message totaling 28 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:52:35 +0100 > From: Julian Tenney > > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > What's the URL you're trying to hit? Have you published the project, and made it public? > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online > Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara > Nance > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. > > I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet > > Many thanks > Barbara > > ------------------------------ > > End of XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) > ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) ******************************************************************** This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 15:24 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Moving this over to Dev as there are a few issues going on here, maybe another one for the list Nikodem ;-) although if this isn?t happening in trunk then Fay might have fixed it I think these guys are still running v1.9 1) Coming out of full window mode, LO with audio narration causes bar to not collapse accordingly [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE7D82.ABBD3F50] 2) Similarly going back to full screen keeps bar at smaller size?. [cid:image002.jpg at 01CE7D82.ABBD3F50] 3) Resizing the window though snaps bar back [cid:image003.jpg at 01CE7D82.ABBD3F50] Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:48 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) I can replicate the problems in IE. Chrome is fine though? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 10 July 2013 14:42 To: ian.hall at eastdurham.ac.uk Cc: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) http://xerte.eastdurham.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=71 Hi Ian and all There are definitely some cross browser issues on the LO link you provided (above) FireFox v 13.0.1 Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. Opera 12.1.5 Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. IE v10 Slide 5 (clickable map) didn't work Slide 9 to 14 and slide 24 had voices only - no images or text showing. The videos all worked. Google Chrome Blank white screen - couldn't get anything to show. As I understand it FireFox and Opera are the most standards compliant browsers which might explain why they work so well. Not sure what the issues are with IE and Chrome though - unfortunately they are probably the most popular browsers for many. Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Hall, Ian Sent: 10 July 2013 14:00 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Hi, We were presenting a CPD event on Xerte to college staff yesterday. Two You-tube videos embedded within the HTML 5 presentation appeared blank similarly an interactive map with hotspots added. When we switched the document to Flash everything was as normal (we lost a little formatting on one page). We use IE 9 at college. Last night I played the HTML 5 Learning Object within Chrome and it worked fine. Can anyone offer any solutions as we are looking to add an "Induction" Learning Object to our VLE in September to support the student induction programme? Thanks Ian Ian Hall Course Manager & Lecturer, Level 2 Diploma Animal Studies Direct Line: Mobile: Twitter: Skype: 0191 375 4781 07766236771 @ianhallk9 ianhallk9 Also on Twitter @EDCAnimalCare Houghall, Durham DH1 3SG Our non land based provision is delivered from our Peterlee Campus, Willerby Grove, Peterlee SR8 2RN East Durham College Where Careers Grow www.eastdurham.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 10 July 2013 11:18 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Would it be possible to find from the college which browser / version they have? It would be interesting to find out - especially if you can't replicate it at home. A -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 10 July 2013 09:38 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) HI Many thanks everyone Will try with some other browsers next time I am in the college, it was the very first page which was a straight forward image/text page [Advanced Media Image]with no additional HTML or otherscript. It opens fine on my ipad ditto open my home computer on several browsers so it must be something to do with computer setting at the college I was at.... but unless I can identify what the problem is am going to need to use Flash for demos elsewhere which is not ideal. Creating two versions is not really ideal either although is one option. Many thanks Barbara -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system Sent: 10 July 2013 00:01 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) There are 4 messages totaling 272 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query (3) 2. XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:04:53 +0000 From: Alistair McNaught > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:18:56 +0000 From: Bardell Jason > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Barbara We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:59:49 +0100 From: Ron Mitchell > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Barbara Without a URL it's difficult to help/advise. Ron -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Barbara We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:20:46 +0100 From: Barbara Nance > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) Hi Yes been made public and can be viewed in flash version Cheers Barbara On 9 Jul 2013, at 00:02, XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system > wrote: > There is 1 message totaling 28 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:52:35 +0100 > From: Julian Tenney > > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > What's the URL you're trying to hit? Have you published the project, and made it public? > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online > Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara > Nance > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. > > I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet > > Many thanks > Barbara > > ------------------------------ > > End of XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) > ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) ******************************************************************** This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 3:32 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > I think these guys are still running v1.9 Fay did a lot of fixes between 1.9 and 2.0, and even more since. I can?t replicate it in our install with my own media, which tells me it?s not the latest code that?s causing the problem. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 15:24 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Moving this over to Dev as there are a few issues going on here, maybe another one for the list Nikodem ;-) although if this isn?t happening in trunk then Fay might have fixed it I think these guys are still running v1.9 1) Coming out of full window mode, LO with audio narration causes bar to not collapse accordingly [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE7D83.480F19A0] 2) Similarly going back to full screen keeps bar at smaller size?. [cid:image002.jpg at 01CE7D83.480F19A0] 3) Resizing the window though snaps bar back [cid:image003.jpg at 01CE7D83.480F19A0] Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:48 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) I can replicate the problems in IE. Chrome is fine though? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 10 July 2013 14:42 To: ian.hall at eastdurham.ac.uk Cc: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) http://xerte.eastdurham.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=71 Hi Ian and all There are definitely some cross browser issues on the LO link you provided (above) FireFox v 13.0.1 Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. Opera 12.1.5 Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. IE v10 Slide 5 (clickable map) didn't work Slide 9 to 14 and slide 24 had voices only - no images or text showing. The videos all worked. Google Chrome Blank white screen - couldn't get anything to show. As I understand it FireFox and Opera are the most standards compliant browsers which might explain why they work so well. Not sure what the issues are with IE and Chrome though - unfortunately they are probably the most popular browsers for many. Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Hall, Ian Sent: 10 July 2013 14:00 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Hi, We were presenting a CPD event on Xerte to college staff yesterday. Two You-tube videos embedded within the HTML 5 presentation appeared blank similarly an interactive map with hotspots added. When we switched the document to Flash everything was as normal (we lost a little formatting on one page). We use IE 9 at college. Last night I played the HTML 5 Learning Object within Chrome and it worked fine. Can anyone offer any solutions as we are looking to add an "Induction" Learning Object to our VLE in September to support the student induction programme? Thanks Ian Ian Hall Course Manager & Lecturer, Level 2 Diploma Animal Studies Direct Line: Mobile: Twitter: Skype: 0191 375 4781 07766236771 @ianhallk9 ianhallk9 Also on Twitter @EDCAnimalCare Houghall, Durham DH1 3SG Our non land based provision is delivered from our Peterlee Campus, Willerby Grove, Peterlee SR8 2RN East Durham College Where Careers Grow www.eastdurham.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 10 July 2013 11:18 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Would it be possible to find from the college which browser / version they have? It would be interesting to find out - especially if you can't replicate it at home. A -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 10 July 2013 09:38 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) HI Many thanks everyone Will try with some other browsers next time I am in the college, it was the very first page which was a straight forward image/text page [Advanced Media Image]with no additional HTML or otherscript. It opens fine on my ipad ditto open my home computer on several browsers so it must be something to do with computer setting at the college I was at.... but unless I can identify what the problem is am going to need to use Flash for demos elsewhere which is not ideal. Creating two versions is not really ideal either although is one option. Many thanks Barbara -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system Sent: 10 July 2013 00:01 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) There are 4 messages totaling 272 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query (3) 2. XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:04:53 +0000 From: Alistair McNaught > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:18:56 +0000 From: Bardell Jason > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Barbara We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:59:49 +0100 From: Ron Mitchell > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Barbara Without a URL it's difficult to help/advise. Ron -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Barbara We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:20:46 +0100 From: Barbara Nance > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) Hi Yes been made public and can be viewed in flash version Cheers Barbara On 9 Jul 2013, at 00:02, XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system > wrote: > There is 1 message totaling 28 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:52:35 +0100 > From: Julian Tenney > > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > What's the URL you're trying to hit? Have you published the project, and made it public? > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online > Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara > Nance > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. 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Old MySQL extension officially deprecated since PHP 5.5.0 in late 2012 and it will be removed in the future. The alternatives since PHP 5 and later are MySQLi ("i" stands from "improved") and PDO (PHP Data Objects).? > > mysqli_* have over 100 functions compared to around 50 for the mysql_* ones so I dare say it won?t just be a case of doing a search and replace although I?m sure that there will be guidance on what we can serach/replace and what we should rewrite? > > We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:00 PM > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > Confused :-( > I have XOT running on a number of different servers with 5.3.3 also 5.3.10 - probably later too? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 > > What does that mean? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > I would give 2.1 a miss as a number > > Reasoning > > A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean > > When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points > > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working > > Make management side easier > > Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now > > I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change > > Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward > > Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core > > On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" wrote: > > I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? > > If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! > > From memory we?ll have: > > Stuff nearly there: > Plugins (soonish - hopefully) > App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) > API (soon) > > Longer terms stuff: > HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) > Theme (?? Dunno) > Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) > > Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 > > Anyway? ramble over? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 > > Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? > > With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: > > - API > - HTML Wizard > - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) > - +? > > But there is a lot of work in there? > > Thoughts? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jul 10 19:31:14 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 19:31:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <0999C1DD-4291-45F2-91C3-412D71380A36@pgogywebstuff.com> Fatal is ok if you install femme On 10 Jul 2013, at 13:34, "Smith, John" wrote: > Hmmm fatal? something about that doesn?t sound good? ;-) > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:29 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > Can't remember the details, but a lower version is fatal. > Found that out during a XOT reinstall. > > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:15:01 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > Not sure when mysqli_* was fully formed? but we already don?t support under php 5.1 so if it was then then we should be fine? what do we do that requires 5.1+ anyway? Pat? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:05 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > So we?ll end up with different code for 5.3+ and code for 5.3-? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 > > What does that mean? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > I would give 2.1 a miss as a number > > Reasoning > > A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean > > When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points > > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working > > Make management side easier > > Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now > > I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change > > Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward > > Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core > > On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" wrote: > I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? > > If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! > > From memory we?ll have: > > Stuff nearly there: > Plugins (soonish - hopefully) > App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) > API (soon) > > Longer terms stuff: > HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) > Theme (?? Dunno) > Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) > > Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 > > Anyway? ramble over? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 > > Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? > > With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: > > - API > - HTML Wizard > - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) > - +? > > But there is a lot of work in there? > > Thoughts? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jul 10 19:30:20 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 19:30:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <7C45830A-ADCC-4230-817A-E400AE6E3693@pgogywebstuff.com> At least three years ago, mysqli has been around for ages Some of the zend and zip stuff needs 5.1 I think. I tend to write stuff that isnt version dependent. However, if you have php 5.5 or when that happens, XOT won't work anymore. No need for two code versions, just a requirement for either pdo or mysqli extensions installed - and I would assume mysqli is on by default On 10 Jul 2013, at 13:15, "Smith, John" wrote: > Not sure when mysqli_* was fully formed? but we already don?t support under php 5.1 so if it was then then we should be fine? what do we do that requires 5.1+ anyway? Pat? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:05 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > So we?ll end up with different code for 5.3+ and code for 5.3-? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 > > What does that mean? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > I would give 2.1 a miss as a number > > Reasoning > > A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean > > When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points > > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working > > Make management side easier > > Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now > > I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change > > Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward > > Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core > > On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" wrote: > > I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? > > If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! > > From memory we?ll have: > > Stuff nearly there: > Plugins (soonish - hopefully) > App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) > API (soon) > > Longer terms stuff: > HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) > Theme (?? Dunno) > Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) > > Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 > > Anyway? ramble over? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 > > Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? > > With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: > > - API > - HTML Wizard > - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) > - +? > > But there is a lot of work in there? > > Thoughts? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Jul 10 20:29:16 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:29:16 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: <0999C1DD-4291-45F2-91C3-412D71380A36@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <0999C1DD-4291-45F2-91C3-412D71380A36@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Fatale.Different OS. From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 19:31:14 +0100 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Fatal is ok if you install femme On 10 Jul 2013, at 13:34, "Smith, John" wrote: Hmmm fatal? something about that doesn?t sound good? ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:29 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Can't remember the details, but a lower version is fatal. Found that out during a XOT reinstall. From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:15:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Not sure when mysqli_* was fully formed? but we already don?t support under php 5.1 so if it was then then we should be fine? what do we do that requires 5.1+ anyway? Pat? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:05 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 So we?ll end up with different code for 5.3+ and code for 5.3-? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! >From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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I had the problem: - Authentic users from LDAP are able to log onto the new Xerte site, but the user's Firstname and Surname are not written into the logindetails table, therefore it will not show the user's full name on the xerte pages (e.g., user properties). - If I log in with a non-existing username but with an existing user password, it allows me to log onto the Xerte site, and it's no Firstname and Surname in the logindetails table too. - Then I give a Firstname/Surname to the user and save it. It's in the database. After I click the login button to log on, the Firstname/Surname are empty again. Here is the LDAP settings: Host: the university ldap host name Port: 389 Password: Base: Blind: Filter: objectClass=person Second filter: cn= I have checked the codes from Index.php, Login_library.php, user_libery.php to ldap.php. I don't understand why the "GetFirstname" and "GetSurname" didn't work? Why it allows a non-existing username access? I wonder if anybody could give advice? Thank you very much. Can anyone help with these settings? Don't really have much (and by much I mean none) LDAP experience... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 21:22:25 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:22:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: I think I had in mind for the API to be more of a Public API hence the levels of signing that are employed... and the security overhead hoops to jump through - have you installed it yet and tried it? There is so much ajax going on though that having them all funnelled through api endpoints would be kinda cool and we'd only need to check is_admin() or has a valid session depending on the destination route which would be as efficient as just now... a LOT of work though!! I take Ron's point seriously on board though regarding the auto update thing and the way lots of people people have probably "hacked" their own changes locally - this has been highlighted most buy RonM2's Knowledgeware problems recently and the fact that he's now stuck at 1.7... I think this is where the plugins will come into their own... I know it's quite easy to just hard code html things like the menus in management and properties etc but having all of these things done more flexibly might take a bit more coding but will help us in the long run I think... for example if we had an array holding the tab names, function names, other info etc then we could pass that through a plugin filter and simply add a few, or only in certain situations... such as adding the api button, a lot of functionality could be done in "core" plugins the way drupal, etc does it... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! >From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: - API - HTML Wizard - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) - +? But there is a lot of work in there? Thoughts? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 22:01:45 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:01:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: <9791FE63-9937-40B6-B904-C4D7BFB59AE1@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <027901ce7d65$0a70b310$1f521930$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <9791FE63-9937-40B6-B904-C4D7BFB59AE1@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03417@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> you mean start again with a whiteboard and markers? That would be a lot of (very worthwhile) work. You thnk that's worth a face to face few days? Any opportunity between now and mid august? I'd be be up for that - I think something like that would accelerate what takes quite a lot of traffic on the list to sort out, Worth thinking about? ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 10 July 2013 19:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Yes, we should abstract, we should abstract a lot more Large parts of the code are four years old, so a clean up makes sense On 10 Jul 2013, at 13:14, Julian Tenney > wrote: > We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? If that?s the case then it?s not too bad, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 13:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 They?re not gone yet... re-reading the docs its actually 5.5 where they?ve being officially deprecated, they only announced plans to deprecate in 2011 at 5.3 time? ?PHP team announced plans to deprecate MySQL extension in mid 2011. Old MySQL extension officially deprecated since PHP 5.5.0 in late 2012 and it will be removed in the future. The alternatives since PHP 5 and later are MySQLi ("i" stands from "improved") and PDO (PHP Data Objects).? mysqli_* have over 100 functions compared to around 50 for the mysql_* ones so I dare say it won?t just be a case of doing a search and replace although I?m sure that there will be guidance on what we can serach/replace and what we should rewrite? We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:00 PM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Confused :-( I have XOT running on a number of different servers with 5.3.3 also 5.3.10 - probably later too? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 What does that mean? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 I would give 2.1 a miss as a number Reasoning A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working Make management side easier Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! >From memory we?ll have: Stuff nearly there: Plugins (soonish - hopefully) App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) API (soon) Longer terms stuff: HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) Theme (?? Dunno) Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 Anyway? ramble over? 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. < _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 22:56:13 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:56:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03418@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <005f01ce7d48$cdb595b0$6920c110$@gmail.com> <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C11@email.eastdurham.ac.uk> <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C77@email.eastdurham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F51@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03418@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: MOVED TO XERTE-DEV Is there a better way to do this, like we do with the xml files... should add a timestamp to the ajax for the loading of the models files, to force a reload after x days? or can we do it using the version.text revision? Any update to code should overwrite that... It's one of those things with client-side processing that ultimately changes are going to end up being superseded by cached items for a period... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 10 July 2013 22:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) you're quite a big user, and you've been using various versions as t's evovled, who knows what is cached in there and not displaying the most recent file. I found it fixed a few teething troubles here after we upgraded, ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught [Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk] Sent: 10 July 2013 18:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) That did the trick. Still seems odd though and not what you'd want to tell learners. Generally though I recommend people to use Chrome with XOT because there are some great accessibility plugins like ChromeSpeak for text to speech, Hi Contrast for changing appearance etc. It gives you some of the "in your face" accessibility benefits the Flash version had as well s all the other benefits of being browser based. A -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 July 2013 15:04 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Can you clear your cache and try it again? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 10 July 2013 15:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) I've got Chrome Version 22.0.1229.94 and get a momentary flash of a page appearing before it completely blanks However I've now tried opening another tab in Chrome and bizarrely there's a blank LO in one tab that flashed then went white but a working one in another tab - though not all the data is being shown, for example in 12 and 14 I'm getting images and voices but not text. Slide 5 I'm only getting the voice. A -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 July 2013 14:48 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) I can replicate the problems in IE. Chrome is fine though? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 10 July 2013 14:42 To: ian.hall at eastdurham.ac.uk Cc: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) http://xerte.eastdurham.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=71 Hi Ian and all There are definitely some cross browser issues on the LO link you provided (above) FireFox v 13.0.1 Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. Opera 12.1.5 Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. IE v10 Slide 5 (clickable map) didn't work Slide 9 to 14 and slide 24 had voices only - no images or text showing. The videos all worked. Google Chrome Blank white screen - couldn't get anything to show. As I understand it FireFox and Opera are the most standards compliant browsers which might explain why they work so well. Not sure what the issues are with IE and Chrome though - unfortunately they are probably the most popular browsers for many. Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Hall, Ian Sent: 10 July 2013 14:00 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Hi, We were presenting a CPD event on Xerte to college staff yesterday. Two You-tube videos embedded within the HTML 5 presentation appeared blank similarly an interactive map with hotspots added. When we switched the document to Flash everything was as normal (we lost a little formatting on one page). We use IE 9 at college. Last night I played the HTML 5 Learning Object within Chrome and it worked fine. Can anyone offer any solutions as we are looking to add an "Induction" Learning Object to our VLE in September to support the student induction programme? Thanks Ian Ian Hall Course Manager & Lecturer, Level 2 Diploma Animal Studies Direct Line: Mobile: Twitter: Skype: 0191 375 4781 07766236771 @ianhallk9 ianhallk9 Also on Twitter @EDCAnimalCare Houghall, Durham DH1 3SG Our non land based provision is delivered from our Peterlee Campus, Willerby Grove, Peterlee SR8 2RN East Durham College Where Careers Grow www.eastdurham.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 10 July 2013 11:18 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Would it be possible to find from the college which browser / version they have? It would be interesting to find out - especially if you can't replicate it at home. A -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 10 July 2013 09:38 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) HI Many thanks everyone Will try with some other browsers next time I am in the college, it was the very first page which was a straight forward image/text page [Advanced Media Image]with no additional HTML or otherscript. It opens fine on my ipad ditto open my home computer on several browsers so it must be something to do with computer setting at the college I was at.... but unless I can identify what the problem is am going to need to use Flash for demos elsewhere which is not ideal. Creating two versions is not really ideal either although is one option. Many thanks Barbara -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system Sent: 10 July 2013 00:01 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) There are 4 messages totaling 272 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query (3) 2. XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:04:53 +0000 From: Alistair McNaught Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:18:56 +0000 From: Bardell Jason Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Barbara We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:59:49 +0100 From: Ron Mitchell Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Barbara Without a URL it's difficult to help/advise. Ron -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Barbara We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! Alistair -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query Hi Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet Many thanks Barbara This email is confidential and may be privileged. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:20:46 +0100 From: Barbara Nance Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) Hi Yes been made public and can be viewed in flash version Cheers Barbara On 9 Jul 2013, at 00:02, XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system wrote: > There is 1 message totaling 28 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:52:35 +0100 > From: Julian Tenney > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > What's the URL you're trying to hit? Have you published the project, and made it public? > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online > Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara > Nance > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. > > I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet > > Many thanks > Barbara > > ------------------------------ > > End of XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) > ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) ******************************************************************** This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Jul 10 23:27:14 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 18:27:14 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) In-Reply-To: References: , <005f01ce7d48$cdb595b0$6920c110$@gmail.com>, , <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C11@email.eastdurham.ac.uk>, , <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C77@email.eastdurham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F51@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03418@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Increment a querystring with a version #? > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:56:13 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > MOVED TO XERTE-DEV > > Is there a better way to do this, like we do with the xml files... should add a timestamp to the ajax for the loading of the models files, to force a reload after x days? or can we do it using the version.text revision? Any update to code should overwrite that... > > It's one of those things with client-side processing that ultimately changes are going to end up being superseded by cached items for a period... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 10 July 2013 22:05 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > you're quite a big user, and you've been using various versions as t's evovled, who knows what is cached in there and not displaying the most recent file. I found it fixed a few teething troubles here after we upgraded, > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught [Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk] > Sent: 10 July 2013 18:08 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > That did the trick. Still seems odd though and not what you'd want to tell learners. > Generally though I recommend people to use Chrome with XOT because there are some great accessibility plugins like ChromeSpeak for text to speech, Hi Contrast for changing appearance etc. It gives you some of the "in your face" accessibility benefits the Flash version had as well s all the other benefits of being browser based. > > A > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 10 July 2013 15:04 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > Can you clear your cache and try it again? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 10 July 2013 15:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > I've got Chrome Version 22.0.1229.94 and get a momentary flash of a page appearing before it completely blanks > > However I've now tried opening another tab in Chrome and bizarrely there's a blank LO in one tab that flashed then went white but a working one in another tab - though not all the data is being shown, for example in 12 and 14 I'm getting images and voices but not text. Slide 5 I'm only getting the voice. > > A > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 10 July 2013 14:48 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > I can replicate the problems in IE. > > Chrome is fine though? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 10 July 2013 14:42 > To: ian.hall at eastdurham.ac.uk > Cc: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > http://xerte.eastdurham.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=71 > > Hi Ian and all > There are definitely some cross browser issues on the LO link you provided (above) > > FireFox v 13.0.1 > Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. > > Opera 12.1.5 > Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. > > IE v10 > Slide 5 (clickable map) didn't work > Slide 9 to 14 and slide 24 had voices only - no images or text showing. > The videos all worked. > > Google Chrome > Blank white screen - couldn't get anything to show. > > As I understand it FireFox and Opera are the most standards compliant browsers which might explain why they work so well. Not sure what the issues are with IE and Chrome though - unfortunately they are probably the most popular browsers for many. > > Alistair > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Hall, Ian > Sent: 10 July 2013 14:00 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > Hi, > > We were presenting a CPD event on Xerte to college staff yesterday. Two You-tube videos embedded within the HTML 5 presentation appeared blank similarly an interactive map with hotspots added. When we switched the document to Flash everything was as normal (we lost a little formatting on one page). > > We use IE 9 at college. > > Last night I played the HTML 5 Learning Object within Chrome and it worked fine. > > Can anyone offer any solutions as we are looking to add an "Induction" Learning Object to our VLE in September to support the student induction programme? > > Thanks > > Ian > Ian Hall > Course Manager & Lecturer, Level 2 Diploma Animal Studies > > Direct Line: Mobile: Twitter: Skype: > > 0191 375 4781 07766236771 @ianhallk9 ianhallk9 > > Also on Twitter @EDCAnimalCare > > Houghall, Durham DH1 3SG > Our non land based provision is delivered from our Peterlee Campus, Willerby Grove, Peterlee SR8 2RN East Durham College Where Careers Grow www.eastdurham.ac.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 10 July 2013 11:18 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > Would it be possible to find from the college which browser / version they have? It would be interesting to find out - especially if you can't replicate it at home. > > A > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance > Sent: 10 July 2013 09:38 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > HI > Many thanks everyone > > Will try with some other browsers next time I am in the college, it was the very first page which was a straight forward image/text page [Advanced Media Image]with no additional HTML or otherscript. > It opens fine on my ipad ditto open my home computer on several browsers so it must be something to do with computer setting at the college I was at.... but unless I can identify what the problem is am going to need to use Flash for demos elsewhere which is not ideal. Creating two versions is not really ideal either although is one option. > > Many thanks > Barbara > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system > Sent: 10 July 2013 00:01 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > There are 4 messages totaling 272 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query (3) > 2. XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:04:53 +0000 > From: Alistair McNaught > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. > The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! > > Alistair > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. > > I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet > > Many thanks > Barbara > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:18:56 +0000 > From: Bardell Jason > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi Barbara > > We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. > > Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. > The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! > > Alistair > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. > > I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet > > Many thanks > Barbara > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:59:49 +0100 > From: Ron Mitchell > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Barbara > Without a URL it's difficult to help/advise. > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi Barbara > > We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. > > Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. > The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! > > Alistair > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. > > I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet > > Many thanks > Barbara > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. 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XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:52:35 +0100 > > From: Julian Tenney > > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > > > What's the URL you're trying to hit? Have you published the project, and made it public? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online > > Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara > > Nance > > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > > > Hi > > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. > > > > I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet > > > > Many thanks > > Barbara > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) > > ******************************************************************** > > ------------------------------ > > End of XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > ******************************************************************** > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 10 23:29:00 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 23:29:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) In-Reply-To: References: , <005f01ce7d48$cdb595b0$6920c110$@gmail.com>, , <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C11@email.eastdurham.ac.uk>, , <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C77@email.eastdurham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F51@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03418@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , Message-ID: Yeah, if we have revision 1001 installed then we load all the models with model.html?r1001 .... the next time we load the model it comes from cache... When we upgrade to 1030 then we load model.html?r1030 and we trigger a new download - saves telling people to flush the cache... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 10 July 2013 23:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Increment a querystring with a version #? > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:56:13 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > MOVED TO XERTE-DEV > > Is there a better way to do this, like we do with the xml files... should add a timestamp to the ajax for the loading of the models files, to force a reload after x days? or can we do it using the version.text revision? Any update to code should overwrite that... > > It's one of those things with client-side processing that ultimately changes are going to end up being superseded by cached items for a period... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 10 July 2013 22:05 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > you're quite a big user, and you've been using various versions as t's evovled, who knows what is cached in there and not displaying the most recent file. I found it fixed a few teething troubles here after we upgraded, > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught [Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk] > Sent: 10 July 2013 18:08 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > That did the trick. Still seems odd though and not what you'd want to tell learners. > Generally though I recommend people to use Chrome with XOT because there are some great accessibility plugins like ChromeSpeak for text to speech, Hi Contrast for changing appearance etc. It gives you some of the "in your face" accessibility benefits the Flash version had as well s all the other benefits of being browser based. > > A > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 10 July 2013 15:04 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > Can you clear your cache and try it again? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 10 July 2013 15:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > I've got Chrome Version 22.0.1229.94 and get a momentary flash of a page appearing before it completely blanks > > However I've now tried opening another tab in Chrome and bizarrely there's a blank LO in one tab that flashed then went white but a working one in another tab - though not all the data is being shown, for example in 12 and 14 I'm getting images and voices but not text. Slide 5 I'm only getting the voice. > > A > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 10 July 2013 14:48 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > I can replicate the problems in IE. > > Chrome is fine though? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 10 July 2013 14:42 > To: ian.hall at eastdurham.ac.uk > Cc: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > http://xerte.eastdurham.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=71 > > Hi Ian and all > There are definitely some cross browser issues on the LO link you provided (above) > > FireFox v 13.0.1 > Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. > > Opera 12.1.5 > Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. > > IE v10 > Slide 5 (clickable map) didn't work > Slide 9 to 14 and slide 24 had voices only - no images or text showing. > The videos all worked. > > Google Chrome > Blank white screen - couldn't get anything to show. > > As I understand it FireFox and Opera are the most standards compliant browsers which might explain why they work so well. Not sure what the issues are with IE and Chrome though - unfortunately they are probably the most popular browsers for many. > > Alistair > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Hall, Ian > Sent: 10 July 2013 14:00 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > Hi, > > We were presenting a CPD event on Xerte to college staff yesterday. Two You-tube videos embedded within the HTML 5 presentation appeared blank similarly an interactive map with hotspots added. When we switched the document to Flash everything was as normal (we lost a little formatting on one page). > > We use IE 9 at college. > > Last night I played the HTML 5 Learning Object within Chrome and it worked fine. > > Can anyone offer any solutions as we are looking to add an "Induction" Learning Object to our VLE in September to support the student induction programme? > > Thanks > > Ian > Ian Hall > Course Manager & Lecturer, Level 2 Diploma Animal Studies > > Direct Line: Mobile: Twitter: Skype: > > 0191 375 4781 07766236771 @ianhallk9 ianhallk9 > > Also on Twitter @EDCAnimalCare > > Houghall, Durham DH1 3SG > Our non land based provision is delivered from our Peterlee Campus, Willerby Grove, Peterlee SR8 2RN East Durham College Where Careers Grow www.eastdurham.ac.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 10 July 2013 11:18 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > Would it be possible to find from the college which browser / version they have? It would be interesting to find out - especially if you can't replicate it at home. > > A > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance > Sent: 10 July 2013 09:38 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > HI > Many thanks everyone > > Will try with some other browsers next time I am in the college, it was the very first page which was a straight forward image/text page [Advanced Media Image]with no additional HTML or otherscript. > It opens fine on my ipad ditto open my home computer on several browsers so it must be something to do with computer setting at the college I was at.... but unless I can identify what the problem is am going to need to use Flash for demos elsewhere which is not ideal. Creating two versions is not really ideal either although is one option. > > Many thanks > Barbara > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system > Sent: 10 July 2013 00:01 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > There are 4 messages totaling 272 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query (3) > 2. XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:04:53 +0000 > From: Alistair McNaught > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. > The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! > > Alistair > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. > > I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet > > Many thanks > Barbara > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:18:56 +0000 > From: Bardell Jason > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi Barbara > > We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. > > Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. > The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! > > Alistair > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. > > I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet > > Many thanks > Barbara > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:59:49 +0100 > From: Ron Mitchell > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Barbara > Without a URL it's difficult to help/advise. > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi Barbara > > We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. > > Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. > The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! > > Alistair > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > Hi > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. > > I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet > > Many thanks > Barbara > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. 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XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:52:35 +0100 > > From: Julian Tenney > > Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > > > What's the URL you're trying to hit? Have you published the project, and made it public? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online > > Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara > > Nance > > Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 > > To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query > > > > Hi > > Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. > > > > However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. > > > > I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet > > > > Many thanks > > Barbara > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) > > ******************************************************************** > > ------------------------------ > > End of XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > ******************************************************************** > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Thu Jul 11 08:07:49 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:07:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) In-Reply-To: References: <005f01ce7d48$cdb595b0$6920c110$@gmail.com> <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C11@email.eastdurham.ac.uk> <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C77@email.eastdurham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F51@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03418@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3E146F19-8BAA-473E-895A-9FDC1652FF52@pgogywebstuff.com> Adding a timestamp seems easier? On 10 Jul 2013, at 23:29, "Smith, John" wrote: > Yeah, if we have revision 1001 installed then we load all the models with model.html?r1001 .... the next time we load the model it comes from cache... > > When we upgrade to 1030 then we load model.html?r1030 and we trigger a new download - saves telling people to flush the cache... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 10 July 2013 23:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > Increment a querystring with a version #? > > > > > >> From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:56:13 +0100 >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> MOVED TO XERTE-DEV >> >> Is there a better way to do this, like we do with the xml files... should add a timestamp to the ajax for the loading of the models files, to force a reload after x days? or can we do it using the version.text revision? Any update to code should overwrite that... >> >> It's one of those things with client-side processing that ultimately changes are going to end up being superseded by cached items for a period... >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University >> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >> Sent: 10 July 2013 22:05 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> you're quite a big user, and you've been using various versions as t's evovled, who knows what is cached in there and not displaying the most recent file. I found it fixed a few teething troubles here after we upgraded, >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught [Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk] >> Sent: 10 July 2013 18:08 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> That did the trick. Still seems odd though and not what you'd want to tell learners. >> Generally though I recommend people to use Chrome with XOT because there are some great accessibility plugins like ChromeSpeak for text to speech, Hi Contrast for changing appearance etc. It gives you some of the "in your face" accessibility benefits the Flash version had as well s all the other benefits of being browser based. >> >> A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 10 July 2013 15:04 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> Can you clear your cache and try it again? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 10 July 2013 15:02 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> I've got Chrome Version 22.0.1229.94 and get a momentary flash of a page appearing before it completely blanks >> >> However I've now tried opening another tab in Chrome and bizarrely there's a blank LO in one tab that flashed then went white but a working one in another tab - though not all the data is being shown, for example in 12 and 14 I'm getting images and voices but not text. Slide 5 I'm only getting the voice. >> >> A >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:48 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> I can replicate the problems in IE. >> >> Chrome is fine though? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:42 >> To: ian.hall at eastdurham.ac.uk >> Cc: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> http://xerte.eastdurham.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=71 >> >> Hi Ian and all >> There are definitely some cross browser issues on the LO link you provided (above) >> >> FireFox v 13.0.1 >> Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. >> >> Opera 12.1.5 >> Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. >> >> IE v10 >> Slide 5 (clickable map) didn't work >> Slide 9 to 14 and slide 24 had voices only - no images or text showing. >> The videos all worked. >> >> Google Chrome >> Blank white screen - couldn't get anything to show. >> >> As I understand it FireFox and Opera are the most standards compliant browsers which might explain why they work so well. Not sure what the issues are with IE and Chrome though - unfortunately they are probably the most popular browsers for many. >> >> Alistair >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Hall, Ian >> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:00 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> Hi, >> >> We were presenting a CPD event on Xerte to college staff yesterday. Two You-tube videos embedded within the HTML 5 presentation appeared blank similarly an interactive map with hotspots added. When we switched the document to Flash everything was as normal (we lost a little formatting on one page). >> >> We use IE 9 at college. >> >> Last night I played the HTML 5 Learning Object within Chrome and it worked fine. >> >> Can anyone offer any solutions as we are looking to add an "Induction" Learning Object to our VLE in September to support the student induction programme? >> >> Thanks >> >> Ian >> Ian Hall >> Course Manager & Lecturer, Level 2 Diploma Animal Studies >> >> Direct Line: Mobile: Twitter: Skype: >> >> 0191 375 4781 07766236771 @ianhallk9 ianhallk9 >> >> Also on Twitter @EDCAnimalCare >> >> Houghall, Durham DH1 3SG >> Our non land based provision is delivered from our Peterlee Campus, Willerby Grove, Peterlee SR8 2RN East Durham College Where Careers Grow www.eastdurham.ac.uk >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 10 July 2013 11:18 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> Would it be possible to find from the college which browser / version they have? It would be interesting to find out - especially if you can't replicate it at home. >> >> A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance >> Sent: 10 July 2013 09:38 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> HI >> Many thanks everyone >> >> Will try with some other browsers next time I am in the college, it was the very first page which was a straight forward image/text page [Advanced Media Image]with no additional HTML or otherscript. >> It opens fine on my ipad ditto open my home computer on several browsers so it must be something to do with computer setting at the college I was at.... but unless I can identify what the problem is am going to need to use Flash for demos elsewhere which is not ideal. Creating two versions is not really ideal either although is one option. >> >> Many thanks >> Barbara >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system >> Sent: 10 July 2013 00:01 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> There are 4 messages totaling 272 lines in this issue. >> >> Topics of the day: >> >> 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query (3) >> 2. XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:04:53 +0000 >> From: Alistair McNaught >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. >> The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! >> >> Alistair >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance >> Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi >> Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. >> >> However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. >> >> I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet >> >> Many thanks >> Barbara >> This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:18:56 +0000 >> From: Bardell Jason >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi Barbara >> >> We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. >> >> Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. >> The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! >> >> Alistair >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance >> Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi >> Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. >> >> However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. >> >> I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet >> >> Many thanks >> Barbara >> This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:59:49 +0100 >> From: Ron Mitchell >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Barbara >> Without a URL it's difficult to help/advise. >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason >> Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi Barbara >> >> We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that L From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jul 11 08:10:13 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:10:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) In-Reply-To: <3E146F19-8BAA-473E-895A-9FDC1652FF52@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <005f01ce7d48$cdb595b0$6920c110$@gmail.com> <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C11@email.eastdurham.ac.uk> <7F8633D41C9C9948970CB905EEDC2FBE30662C77@email.eastdurham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F51@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01F73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03418@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <3E146F19-8BAA-473E-895A-9FDC1652FF52@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA0341A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> the timestamp methof ought to be easy to implement for the models. Other stuff is loaded though... ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 11 July 2013 08:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Adding a timestamp seems easier? On 10 Jul 2013, at 23:29, "Smith, John" wrote: > Yeah, if we have revision 1001 installed then we load all the models with model.html?r1001 .... the next time we load the model it comes from cache... > > When we upgrade to 1030 then we load model.html?r1030 and we trigger a new download - saves telling people to flush the cache... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 10 July 2013 23:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > Increment a querystring with a version #? > > > > > >> From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:56:13 +0100 >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> MOVED TO XERTE-DEV >> >> Is there a better way to do this, like we do with the xml files... should add a timestamp to the ajax for the loading of the models files, to force a reload after x days? or can we do it using the version.text revision? Any update to code should overwrite that... >> >> It's one of those things with client-side processing that ultimately changes are going to end up being superseded by cached items for a period... >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University >> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >> Sent: 10 July 2013 22:05 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> you're quite a big user, and you've been using various versions as t's evovled, who knows what is cached in there and not displaying the most recent file. I found it fixed a few teething troubles here after we upgraded, >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught [Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk] >> Sent: 10 July 2013 18:08 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> That did the trick. Still seems odd though and not what you'd want to tell learners. >> Generally though I recommend people to use Chrome with XOT because there are some great accessibility plugins like ChromeSpeak for text to speech, Hi Contrast for changing appearance etc. It gives you some of the "in your face" accessibility benefits the Flash version had as well s all the other benefits of being browser based. >> >> A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 10 July 2013 15:04 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> Can you clear your cache and try it again? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 10 July 2013 15:02 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> I've got Chrome Version 22.0.1229.94 and get a momentary flash of a page appearing before it completely blanks >> >> However I've now tried opening another tab in Chrome and bizarrely there's a blank LO in one tab that flashed then went white but a working one in another tab - though not all the data is being shown, for example in 12 and 14 I'm getting images and voices but not text. Slide 5 I'm only getting the voice. >> >> A >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:48 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> I can replicate the problems in IE. >> >> Chrome is fine though? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:42 >> To: ian.hall at eastdurham.ac.uk >> Cc: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> http://xerte.eastdurham.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=71 >> >> Hi Ian and all >> There are definitely some cross browser issues on the LO link you provided (above) >> >> FireFox v 13.0.1 >> Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. >> >> Opera 12.1.5 >> Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. >> >> IE v10 >> Slide 5 (clickable map) didn't work >> Slide 9 to 14 and slide 24 had voices only - no images or text showing. >> The videos all worked. >> >> Google Chrome >> Blank white screen - couldn't get anything to show. >> >> As I understand it FireFox and Opera are the most standards compliant browsers which might explain why they work so well. Not sure what the issues are with IE and Chrome though - unfortunately they are probably the most popular browsers for many. >> >> Alistair >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Hall, Ian >> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:00 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> Hi, >> >> We were presenting a CPD event on Xerte to college staff yesterday. Two You-tube videos embedded within the HTML 5 presentation appeared blank similarly an interactive map with hotspots added. When we switched the document to Flash everything was as normal (we lost a little formatting on one page). >> >> We use IE 9 at college. >> >> Last night I played the HTML 5 Learning Object within Chrome and it worked fine. >> >> Can anyone offer any solutions as we are looking to add an "Induction" Learning Object to our VLE in September to support the student induction programme? >> >> Thanks >> >> Ian >> Ian Hall >> Course Manager & Lecturer, Level 2 Diploma Animal Studies >> >> Direct Line: Mobile: Twitter: Skype: >> >> 0191 375 4781 07766236771 @ianhallk9 ianhallk9 >> >> Also on Twitter @EDCAnimalCare >> >> Houghall, Durham DH1 3SG >> Our non land based provision is delivered from our Peterlee Campus, Willerby Grove, Peterlee SR8 2RN East Durham College Where Careers Grow www.eastdurham.ac.uk >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 10 July 2013 11:18 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> Would it be possible to find from the college which browser / version they have? It would be interesting to find out - especially if you can't replicate it at home. >> >> A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance >> Sent: 10 July 2013 09:38 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> HI >> Many thanks everyone >> >> Will try with some other browsers next time I am in the college, it was the very first page which was a straight forward image/text page [Advanced Media Image]with no additional HTML or otherscript. >> It opens fine on my ipad ditto open my home computer on several browsers so it must be something to do with computer setting at the college I was at.... but unless I can identify what the problem is am going to need to use Flash for demos elsewhere which is not ideal. Creating two versions is not really ideal either although is one option. >> >> Many thanks >> Barbara >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system >> Sent: 10 July 2013 00:01 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> There are 4 messages totaling 272 lines in this issue. >> >> Topics of the day: >> >> 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query (3) >> 2. XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:04:53 +0000 >> From: Alistair McNaught >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. >> The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! >> >> Alistair >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance >> Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi >> Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. >> >> However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. >> >> I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet >> >> Many thanks >> Barbara >> This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:18:56 +0000 >> From: Bardell Jason >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi Barbara >> >> We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. >> >> Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. >> The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! >> >> Alistair >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance >> Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi >> Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. >> >> However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. >> >> I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet >> >> Many thanks >> Barbara >> This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:59:49 +0100 >> From: Ron Mitchell >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Barbara >> Without a URL it's difficult to help/advise. >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason >> Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi Barbara >> >> We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that L _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Jul 11 08:52:09 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:52:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) Message-ID: Yeah but those models don't change that often... Certainly not as often as the xml... With a timestamp you'd loss caching benefits across LOs and even pages within... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Adding a timestamp seems easier? On 10 Jul 2013, at 23:29, "Smith, John" wrote: > Yeah, if we have revision 1001 installed then we load all the models with model.html?r1001 .... the next time we load the model it comes from cache... > > When we upgrade to 1030 then we load model.html?r1030 and we trigger a new download - saves telling people to flush the cache... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 10 July 2013 23:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) > > Increment a querystring with a version #? > > > > > >> From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:56:13 +0100 >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> MOVED TO XERTE-DEV >> >> Is there a better way to do this, like we do with the xml files... should add a timestamp to the ajax for the loading of the models files, to force a reload after x days? or can we do it using the version.text revision? Any update to code should overwrite that... >> >> It's one of those things with client-side processing that ultimately changes are going to end up being superseded by cached items for a period... >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University >> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >> Sent: 10 July 2013 22:05 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> you're quite a big user, and you've been using various versions as t's evovled, who knows what is cached in there and not displaying the most recent file. I found it fixed a few teething troubles here after we upgraded, >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught [Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk] >> Sent: 10 July 2013 18:08 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> That did the trick. Still seems odd though and not what you'd want to tell learners. >> Generally though I recommend people to use Chrome with XOT because there are some great accessibility plugins like ChromeSpeak for text to speech, Hi Contrast for changing appearance etc. It gives you some of the "in your face" accessibility benefits the Flash version had as well s all the other benefits of being browser based. >> >> A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 10 July 2013 15:04 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> Can you clear your cache and try it again? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 10 July 2013 15:02 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> I've got Chrome Version 22.0.1229.94 and get a momentary flash of a page appearing before it completely blanks >> >> However I've now tried opening another tab in Chrome and bizarrely there's a blank LO in one tab that flashed then went white but a working one in another tab - though not all the data is being shown, for example in 12 and 14 I'm getting images and voices but not text. Slide 5 I'm only getting the voice. >> >> A >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:48 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> I can replicate the problems in IE. >> >> Chrome is fine though? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:42 >> To: ian.hall at eastdurham.ac.uk >> Cc: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> http://xerte.eastdurham.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=71 >> >> Hi Ian and all >> There are definitely some cross browser issues on the LO link you provided (above) >> >> FireFox v 13.0.1 >> Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. >> >> Opera 12.1.5 >> Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else. >> >> IE v10 >> Slide 5 (clickable map) didn't work >> Slide 9 to 14 and slide 24 had voices only - no images or text showing. >> The videos all worked. >> >> Google Chrome >> Blank white screen - couldn't get anything to show. >> >> As I understand it FireFox and Opera are the most standards compliant browsers which might explain why they work so well. Not sure what the issues are with IE and Chrome though - unfortunately they are probably the most popular browsers for many. >> >> Alistair >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Hall, Ian >> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:00 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> Hi, >> >> We were presenting a CPD event on Xerte to college staff yesterday. Two You-tube videos embedded within the HTML 5 presentation appeared blank similarly an interactive map with hotspots added. When we switched the document to Flash everything was as normal (we lost a little formatting on one page). >> >> We use IE 9 at college. >> >> Last night I played the HTML 5 Learning Object within Chrome and it worked fine. >> >> Can anyone offer any solutions as we are looking to add an "Induction" Learning Object to our VLE in September to support the student induction programme? >> >> Thanks >> >> Ian >> Ian Hall >> Course Manager & Lecturer, Level 2 Diploma Animal Studies >> >> Direct Line: Mobile: Twitter: Skype: >> >> 0191 375 4781 07766236771 @ianhallk9 ianhallk9 >> >> Also on Twitter @EDCAnimalCare >> >> Houghall, Durham DH1 3SG >> Our non land based provision is delivered from our Peterlee Campus, Willerby Grove, Peterlee SR8 2RN East Durham College Where Careers Grow www.eastdurham.ac.uk >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 10 July 2013 11:18 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> Would it be possible to find from the college which browser / version they have? It would be interesting to find out - especially if you can't replicate it at home. >> >> A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance >> Sent: 10 July 2013 09:38 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> HI >> Many thanks everyone >> >> Will try with some other browsers next time I am in the college, it was the very first page which was a straight forward image/text page [Advanced Media Image]with no additional HTML or otherscript. >> It opens fine on my ipad ditto open my home computer on several browsers so it must be something to do with computer setting at the college I was at.... but unless I can identify what the problem is am going to need to use Flash for demos elsewhere which is not ideal. Creating two versions is not really ideal either although is one option. >> >> Many thanks >> Barbara >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system >> Sent: 10 July 2013 00:01 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71) >> >> There are 4 messages totaling 272 lines in this issue. >> >> Topics of the day: >> >> 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query (3) >> 2. XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70) >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:04:53 +0000 >> From: Alistair McNaught >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. >> The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! >> >> Alistair >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance >> Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi >> Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. >> >> However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. >> >> I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet >> >> Many thanks >> Barbara >> This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:18:56 +0000 >> From: Bardell Jason >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi Barbara >> >> We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted. >> >> Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes. >> The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute! >> >> Alistair >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance >> Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi >> Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home. >> >> However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed. >> >> I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet >> >> Many thanks >> Barbara >> This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:59:49 +0100 >> From: Ron Mitchell >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Barbara >> Without a URL it's difficult to help/advise. >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason >> Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query >> >> Hi Barbara >> >> We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn?t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that L _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Thu Jul 11 20:18:24 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:18:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03417@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <027901ce7d65$0a70b310$1f521930$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9791FE63-9937-40B6-B904-C4D7BFB59AE1@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03417@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Quite. Two days or so would make sense. I'm stuck in MOOC land till September. Guessing no conference this year? I think with focus you could get through the list in two / three days. On 10 Jul 2013, at 22:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > you mean start again with a whiteboard and markers? That would be a lot of (very worthwhile) work. You thnk that's worth a face to face few days? Any opportunity between now and mid august? I'd be be up for that - I think something like that would accelerate what takes quite a lot of traffic on the list to sort out, > > Worth thinking about? > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > Sent: 10 July 2013 19:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > Yes, we should abstract, we should abstract a lot more > > Large parts of the code are four years old, so a clean up makes sense > > On 10 Jul 2013, at 13:14, Julian Tenney > wrote: > >> We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? > > > If that?s the case then it?s not too bad, > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 10 July 2013 13:12 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > They?re not gone yet... re-reading the docs its actually 5.5 where they?ve being officially deprecated, they only announced plans to deprecate in 2011 at 5.3 time? > > ?PHP team announced plans to deprecate MySQL extension in mid 2011. Old MySQL extension officially deprecated since PHP 5.5.0 in late 2012 and it will be removed in the future. The alternatives since PHP 5 and later are MySQLi ("i" stands from "improved") and PDO (PHP Data Objects).? > > mysqli_* have over 100 functions compared to around 50 for the mysql_* ones so I dare say it won?t just be a case of doing a search and replace although I?m sure that there will be guidance on what we can serach/replace and what we should rewrite? > > We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:00 PM > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > Confused :-( > I have XOT running on a number of different servers with 5.3.3 also 5.3.10 - probably later too? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > >> MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 > > What does that mean? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > I would give 2.1 a miss as a number > > Reasoning > > A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean > > When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points > > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working > > Make management side easier > > Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now > > I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change > > Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward > > Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core > > On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: > I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? > > If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! > > From memory we?ll have: > > Stuff nearly there: > Plugins (soonish - hopefully) > App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) > API (soon) > > Longer terms stuff: > HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) > Theme (?? Dunno) > Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) > > Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 > > Anyway? ramble over? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 > > Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? > > With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: > > > - API > > - HTML Wizard > > - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) > > - +? > > But there is a lot of work in there? > > Thoughts? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Thu Jul 11 20:14:35 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:14:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <9C629A6C-CF98-4AFC-B579-A01C1722444F@pgogywebstuff.com> Everything is a tonne of work, internationalisation took three weeks, but if its piece meal then things feel a bit mixed up. There isn't really a framework / process for development. Make the API the base, then a thin core, and then plugins. Even with plugins though - modules aren't plugins its all a bit mixed up. If we are revisiting a page for x, we might as well for y Swamped with self employment plans, will try Sunday. On 10 Jul 2013, at 21:22, "Smith, John" wrote: > I think I had in mind for the API to be more of a Public API hence the levels of signing that are employed... and the security overhead hoops to jump through - have you installed it yet and tried it? > > There is so much ajax going on though that having them all funnelled through api endpoints would be kinda cool and we'd only need to check is_admin() or has a valid session depending on the destination route which would be as efficient as just now... a LOT of work though!! > > I take Ron's point seriously on board though regarding the auto update thing and the way lots of people people have probably "hacked" their own changes locally - this has been highlighted most buy RonM2's Knowledgeware problems recently and the fact that he's now stuck at 1.7... I think this is where the plugins will come into their own... > > I know it's quite easy to just hard code html things like the menus in management and properties etc but having all of these things done more flexibly might take a bit more coding but will help us in the long run I think... for example if we had an array holding the tab names, function names, other info etc then we could pass that through a plugin filter and simply add a few, or only in certain situations... such as adding the api button, a lot of functionality could be done in "core" plugins the way drupal, etc does it... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > I would give 2.1 a miss as a number > > Reasoning > > A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean > > When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points > > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working > > Make management side easier > > Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now > > I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change > > Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward > > Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core > > On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: > > I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? > > If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! > > From memory we?ll have: > > Stuff nearly there: > Plugins (soonish - hopefully) > App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) > API (soon) > > Longer terms stuff: > HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) > Theme (?? Dunno) > Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) > > Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 > > Anyway? ramble over? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 > > Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? > > With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: > > > - API > > - HTML Wizard > > - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) > > - +? > > But there is a lot of work in there? > > Thoughts? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Jul 11 21:01:03 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:01:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Message-ID: No hurry... I've not really looked at it since. Been kept busy with the Forum and list of bugs i've discovered over the past 2 months... I think that's part of the reason for wanting a 2.1 release... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Everything is a tonne of work, internationalisation took three weeks, but if its piece meal then things feel a bit mixed up. There isn't really a framework / process for development. Make the API the base, then a thin core, and then plugins. Even with plugins though - modules aren't plugins its all a bit mixed up. If we are revisiting a page for x, we might as well for y Swamped with self employment plans, will try Sunday. On 10 Jul 2013, at 21:22, "Smith, John" wrote: > I think I had in mind for the API to be more of a Public API hence the levels of signing that are employed... and the security overhead hoops to jump through - have you installed it yet and tried it? > > There is so much ajax going on though that having them all funnelled through api endpoints would be kinda cool and we'd only need to check is_admin() or has a valid session depending on the destination route which would be as efficient as just now... a LOT of work though!! > > I take Ron's point seriously on board though regarding the auto update thing and the way lots of people people have probably "hacked" their own changes locally - this has been highlighted most buy RonM2's Knowledgeware problems recently and the fact that he's now stuck at 1.7... I think this is where the plugins will come into their own... > > I know it's quite easy to just hard code html things like the menus in management and properties etc but having all of these things done more flexibly might take a bit more coding but will help us in the long run I think... for example if we had an array holding the tab names, function names, other info etc then we could pass that through a plugin filter and simply add a few, or only in certain situations... such as adding the api button, a lot of functionality could be done in "core" plugins the way drupal, etc does it... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > I would give 2.1 a miss as a number > > Reasoning > > A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean > > When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points > > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working > > Make management side easier > > Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now > > I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change > > Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward > > Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core > > On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: > > I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? > > If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! > > From memory we?ll have: > > Stuff nearly there: > Plugins (soonish - hopefully) > App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) > API (soon) > > Longer terms stuff: > HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) > Theme (?? Dunno) > Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) > > Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 > > Anyway? ramble over? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 > > Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? > > With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: > > > - API > > - HTML Wizard > > - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) > > - +? > > But there is a lot of work in there? > > Thoughts? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Jul 12 00:32:55 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 00:32:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Thumbnails are great - except one... Message-ID: Julian, The Interactive Diagram thumbnail is coming up full size... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Jul 12 00:32:55 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 00:32:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Thumbnails are great - except one... Message-ID: Julian, The Interactive Diagram thumbnail is coming up full size... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 12 10:00:38 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:00:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Thumbnails are great - except one... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03427@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> can you shrink it down to 200px wide? Sorry, I'm not at my PC today ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 12 July 2013 00:32 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Thumbnails are great - except one... Julian, The Interactive Diagram thumbnail is coming up full size... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Jul 12 10:03:18 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:03:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Thumbnails are great - except one... Message-ID: <8j1rl91djd0bstpyphx7sej0.1373619794684@email.android.com> Ok will do. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: can you shrink it down to 200px wide? Sorry, I'm not at my PC today ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 12 July 2013 00:32 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Thumbnails are great - except one... Julian, The Interactive Diagram thumbnail is coming up full size... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 12 11:28:34 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:28:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65CF8C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <311B212C-F0F2-4C91-964A-6EF0FAAE43C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7A65D4DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <027901ce7d65$0a70b310$1f521930$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB01EB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9791FE63-9937-40B6-B904-C4D7BFB59AE1@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03417@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA0342C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> There's going to be a user centred event in Holland in spring 2014. No reasons we shouldn't get together though, ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] Sent: 11 July 2013 20:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 Quite. Two days or so would make sense. I'm stuck in MOOC land till September. Guessing no conference this year? I think with focus you could get through the list in two / three days. On 10 Jul 2013, at 22:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > you mean start again with a whiteboard and markers? That would be a lot of (very worthwhile) work. You thnk that's worth a face to face few days? Any opportunity between now and mid august? I'd be be up for that - I think something like that would accelerate what takes quite a lot of traffic on the list to sort out, > > Worth thinking about? > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com] > Sent: 10 July 2013 19:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > Yes, we should abstract, we should abstract a lot more > > Large parts of the code are four years old, so a clean up makes sense > > On 10 Jul 2013, at 13:14, Julian Tenney > wrote: > >> We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? > > > If that?s the case then it?s not too bad, > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 10 July 2013 13:12 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > They?re not gone yet... re-reading the docs its actually 5.5 where they?ve being officially deprecated, they only announced plans to deprecate in 2011 at 5.3 time? > > ?PHP team announced plans to deprecate MySQL extension in mid 2011. Old MySQL extension officially deprecated since PHP 5.5.0 in late 2012 and it will be removed in the future. The alternatives since PHP 5 and later are MySQLi ("i" stands from "improved") and PDO (PHP Data Objects).? > > mysqli_* have over 100 functions compared to around 50 for the mysql_* ones so I dare say it won?t just be a case of doing a search and replace although I?m sure that there will be guidance on what we can serach/replace and what we should rewrite? > > We might also want to abstract the database calls so that they use mysqli_ if available and fall back to mysql_ although I dare say the db_library probably has done a lot of this and might be the main/only place where changes need to be made? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:00 PM > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > Confused :-( > I have XOT running on a number of different servers with 5.3.3 also 5.3.10 - probably later too? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 10 July 2013 12:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > The commonly used mysql_* functions are deprecated? we?ll need to change a lot of code to use mysqli_* for php 5.3+ support? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:19 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > >> MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 > > What does that mean? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1 > > I would give 2.1 a miss as a number > > Reasoning > > A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean > > When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points > > MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working > > Make management side easier > > Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now > > I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change > > Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward > > Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core > > On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" > wrote: > I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now? API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release? > > If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ?BIG LAUNCH? and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!! > > From memory we?ll have: > > Stuff nearly there: > Plugins (soonish - hopefully) > App Store/Extend (almost there if not already) > API (soon) > > Longer terms stuff: > HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least) > Theme (?? Dunno) > Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??) > > Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release ? people won?t update unless they think they need to? but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9 > > Anyway? ramble over? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1 > > Best start new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1? > > With all the automated builds, it really helps ? there isn?t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be: > > > - API > > - HTML Wizard > > - New theme / branding / look and feel (we?ve started looking at this) > > - +? > > But there is a lot of work in there? > > Thoughts? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 12 13:43:01 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:43:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03432@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> See below. We could do with elimating the media upload issue, which still seems to be happening on some new installs, ________________________________________ From: Terry McAndrew [Terry.McAndrew at heacademy.ac.uk] Sent: 12 July 2013 11:50 To: Julian Tenney; Smith, John Cc: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? Hi I have the initial meeting for my HEA Digital Literacy in the Disciplines projects coming up next week (9 projects) but I?m hearing rumblings that the buggyness of Xerte is going to be a problem for committing students to produce marked work with it. I?ll know more next week when I meet them, but this media upload problem seems to be a worry. I see there has been a thread about this in the support forum at http://xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=69&Itemid=759&lang=en&limitstart=6 I?m not a php developer either but I do understand the principles having managed servers in the past. This DL in the Disciplines series of projects will establish not only a network of Xerte installations in HE with the HEA but also a habit of empowering students in a number of disciplines to be creative with it ? and they can be a grumbly bunch when it gives them grief. If you have any suggestions as to how I might placate their fears then please let me know before I meet the Academics on Wednesday next week. I have deliberately bound all the projects to Xerte as I can imagine the benefits. Are these issues just teething troubles or is there an ?expectations management? I should address? Do I need some installation/configuration training and if so who would be the best to provide it? Terry. Terry McAndrew MSc, FHEA Academic Lead: Educational Learning Technologies Advisor: JISC TechDis T +44 (0)1904 717500 M +44 (0) 7920 273411 terry.mcandrew at heacademy.ac.uk Skype: terry.mcandrew tw: @terrymc The Higher Education Academy, Innovation Way, York Science Park, Heslington, York, YO10 5BR www.heacademy.ac.uk ? This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Jul 12 14:18:54 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:18:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03432@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03432@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yeah, not really sure why... even the latest person I've been helping, he was using Safari and Firefox so thought it was the classic Flash Bug but Chrome reports that it has uploaded, yet preview isn't available (because it didn't work) and I've just tested a brand new install v2.0/R1024 again in both Mac Safari and Mac/Windows Firefox and all works for me... It must be a server issue but I'm at a loss as to what it is... the guy i've been trying to debug from the Forum has it locally installed on a Mac (not using XAMPP) so I think something is at play there but it's hard to debug when you are remote... His issue seems to be the session bug you experienced though (and Pat thinks so too) because not only the media issue but random logouts and an error message when he accesses Media and Quota tab say something like "you do not have permission to access this resource"... which usually occurs if your session has expired... But the PHP settings look fine... Relaxing the upload.php security will probably fix the media upload issue but not solve the underlying issue... maybe setup is mis-reporting something as being ok when it's not?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 1:43 PM To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? See below. We could do with elimating the media upload issue, which still seems to be happening on some new installs, ________________________________________ From: Terry McAndrew [Terry.McAndrew at heacademy.ac.uk] Sent: 12 July 2013 11:50 To: Julian Tenney; Smith, John Cc: Alistair McNaught Subject: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? Hi I have the initial meeting for my HEA Digital Literacy in the Disciplines projects coming up next week (9 projects) but I?m hearing rumblings that the buggyness of Xerte is going to be a problem for committing students to produce marked work with it. I?ll know more next week when I meet them, but this media upload problem seems to be a worry. I see there has been a thread about this in the support forum at http://xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=69&Itemid=759&lang=en&limitstart=6 I?m not a php developer either but I do understand the principles having managed servers in the past. This DL in the Disciplines series of projects will establish not only a network of Xerte installations in HE with the HEA but also a habit of empowering students in a number of disciplines to be creative with it ? and they can be a grumbly bunch when it gives them grief. If you have any suggestions as to how I might placate their fears then please let me know before I meet the Academics on Wednesday next week. I have deliberately bound all the projects to Xerte as I can imagine the benefits. Are these issues just teething troubles or is there an ?expectations management? I should address? Do I need some installation/configuration training and if so who would be the best to provide it? Terry. Terry McAndrew MSc, FHEA Academic Lead: Educational Learning Technologies Advisor: JISC TechDis T +44 (0)1904 717500 M +44 (0) 7920 273411 terry.mcandrew at heacademy.ac.uk Skype: terry.mcandrew tw: @terrymc The Higher Education Academy, Innovation Way, York Science Park, Heslington, York, YO10 5BR www.heacademy.ac.uk ? This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Jul 12 14:58:59 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:58:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Thumbnails are great - except one... In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03427@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03427@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Ok that's them fixed in trunk and v2 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:01 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Thumbnails are great - except one... can you shrink it down to 200px wide? Sorry, I'm not at my PC today ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 12 July 2013 00:32 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Thumbnails are great - except one... Julian, The Interactive Diagram thumbnail is coming up full size... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Jul 12 16:08:54 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:08:54 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03432@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Not really my area but the intermittent nature would make one think some action seemingly unrelated to the upload function itself might be killing the session. Something like, when it comes up on the default Project tab I usually (but not always) hit Save as a matter of habit. If some of the affected folks could give us the EXACT series of steps they took prior to the error message? > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:18:54 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? > > Yeah, not really sure why... even the latest person I've been helping, he was using Safari and Firefox so thought it was the classic Flash Bug but Chrome reports that it has uploaded, yet preview isn't available (because it didn't work) and I've just tested a brand new install v2.0/R1024 again in both Mac Safari and Mac/Windows Firefox and all works for me... > > It must be a server issue but I'm at a loss as to what it is... the guy i've been trying to debug from the Forum has it locally installed on a Mac (not using XAMPP) so I think something is at play there but it's hard to debug when you are remote... > > His issue seems to be the session bug you experienced though (and Pat thinks so too) because not only the media issue but random logouts and an error message when he accesses Media and Quota tab say something like "you do not have permission to access this resource"... which usually occurs if your session has expired... > > But the PHP settings look fine... Relaxing the upload.php security will probably fix the media upload issue but not solve the underlying issue... maybe setup is mis-reporting something as being ok when it's not?? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 1:43 PM > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? > > See below. We could do with elimating the media upload issue, which still seems to be happening on some new installs, ________________________________________ > From: Terry McAndrew [Terry.McAndrew at heacademy.ac.uk] > Sent: 12 July 2013 11:50 > To: Julian Tenney; Smith, John > Cc: Alistair McNaught > Subject: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? > > Hi > > I have the initial meeting for my HEA Digital Literacy in the Disciplines projects coming up next week (9 projects) but I?m hearing rumblings that the buggyness of Xerte is going to be a problem for committing students to produce marked work with it. I?ll know more next week when I meet them, but this media upload problem seems to be a worry. > > I see there has been a thread about this in the support forum at http://xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=69&Itemid=759&lang=en&limitstart=6 > > I?m not a php developer either but I do understand the principles having managed servers in the past. > > This DL in the Disciplines series of projects will establish not only a network of Xerte installations in HE with the HEA but also a habit of empowering students in a number of disciplines to be creative with it ? and they can be a grumbly bunch when it gives them grief. If you have any suggestions as to how I might placate their fears then please let me know before I meet the Academics on Wednesday next week. > > I have deliberately bound all the projects to Xerte as I can imagine the benefits. Are these issues just teething troubles or is there an ?expectations management? I should address? Do I need some installation/configuration training and if so who would be the best to provide it? > > Terry. > > Terry McAndrew MSc, FHEA > Academic Lead: Educational Learning Technologies Advisor: JISC TechDis > > T +44 (0)1904 717500 M +44 (0) 7920 273411 terry.mcandrew at heacademy.ac.uk > Skype: terry.mcandrew tw: @terrymc > > The Higher Education Academy, Innovation Way, York Science Park, Heslington, York, YO10 5BR www.heacademy.ac.uk ? > > > > > > > > > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. 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Can someone add this code to the wizard and then commit if appropriate as I don't have commit rights to the xerte google code project, only the toolkits... //if shift is down, jump straight to this page if (Key.isDown(Key.SHIFT)){ // First we find the top page of the currently selected node current_node = tree.selectedNode; while (current_node.parentNode.nodeName != "learningObject" && current_node.parentNode.nodeName != undefined) { current_node = current_node.parentNode; } // Then get the linkID or assign one... linkID = current_node.attributes.linkID; if ( linkID == undefined){ current_node.attributes.linkID = 'PG' + new Date().getTime(); linkID = current_node.attributes.linkID; } if(_root.apache!="false"){ url += '_' + linkID; }else{ url += '&linkID=' + linkID; } } saveFile(); Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Jul 12 16:40:59 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:40:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03432@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Yeah I don't think so either, although the restarting of the session in upload.php on Firefox or Safari was known to kill the existing session and create a new one, effectively logging the person out, before the fix was put in place. But I don't think this is related and the fact that both Safari and Firefox were being used was/is a red herring... turned out that Chrome, while not giving the HTTPError message was still not able to upload the image!! I think it's to do with Apache on the Mac so have suggested running XAMPP instead... It may be entirely possible that each problematic install is a unique problem, or related to their setup/environment - it would be good to know and fix/detect/advise but I don't think we can catch everything... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:09 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? Not really my area but the intermittent nature would make one think some action seemingly unrelated to the upload function itself might be killing the session. Something like, when it comes up on the default Project tab I usually (but not always) hit Save as a matter of habit. If some of the affected folks could give us the EXACT series of steps they took prior to the error message? > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:18:54 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? > > Yeah, not really sure why... even the latest person I've been helping, he was using Safari and Firefox so thought it was the classic Flash Bug but Chrome reports that it has uploaded, yet preview isn't available (because it didn't work) and I've just tested a brand new install v2.0/R1024 again in both Mac Safari and Mac/Windows Firefox and all works for me... > > It must be a server issue but I'm at a loss as to what it is... the guy i've been trying to debug from the Forum has it locally installed on a Mac (not using XAMPP) so I think something is at play there but it's hard to debug when you are remote... > > His issue seems to be the session bug you experienced though (and Pat thinks so too) because not only the media issue but random logouts and an error message when he accesses Media and Quota tab say something like "you do not have permission to access this resource"... which usually occurs if your session has expired... > > But the PHP settings look fine... Relaxing the upload.php security will probably fix the media upload issue but not solve the underlying issue... maybe setup is mis-reporting something as being ok when it's not?? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 1:43 PM > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? > > See below. We could do with elimating the media upload issue, which still seems to be happening on some new installs, ________________________________________ > From: Terry McAndrew [Terry.McAndrew at heacademy.ac.uk] > Sent: 12 July 2013 11:50 > To: Julian Tenney; Smith, John > Cc: Alistair McNaught > Subject: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? > > Hi > > I have the initial meeting for my HEA Digital Literacy in the Disciplines projects coming up next week (9 projects) but I'm hearing rumblings that the buggyness of Xerte is going to be a problem for committing students to produce marked work with it. I'll know more next week when I meet them, but this media upload problem seems to be a worry. > > I see there has been a thread about this in the support forum at http://xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=69&Itemid=759&lang=en&limitstart=6 > > I'm not a php developer either but I do understand the principles having managed servers in the past. > > This DL in the Disciplines series of projects will establish not only a network of Xerte installations in HE with the HEA but also a habit of empowering students in a number of disciplines to be creative with it - and they can be a grumbly bunch when it gives them grief. If you have any suggestions as to how I might placate their fears then please let me know before I meet the Academics on Wednesday next week. > > I have deliberately bound all the projects to Xerte as I can imagine the benefits. Are these issues just teething troubles or is there an 'expectations management' I should address? Do I need some installation/configuration training and if so who would be the best to provide it? > > Terry. > > Terry McAndrew MSc, FHEA > Academic Lead: Educational Learning Technologies Advisor: JISC TechDis > > T +44 (0)1904 717500 M +44 (0) 7920 273411 terry.mcandrew at heacademy.ac.uk> > Skype: terry.mcandrew tw: @terrymc > > The Higher Education Academy, Innovation Way, York Science Park, Heslington, York, YO10 5BR www.heacademy.ac.uk> - > > > > > > > > > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. 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Paul Catherall @ liverpool would like to be able to link the thumbnail viewer thumbs to specific pages (which seems like an obvious feature enhancement)... Now he seems confident at using the asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink to do this, however the "Specified URL" option doesn't allow that... but I can change the model easily to support this but is that then making this feature less accessible to those not confident at using the asfunction call... so I can see 3 (or more) possible other ways... We just change the mode and allow asfunction in the "Specified URL" box - easiest but seems least intuitive... We add a "Page Link" to the dropdown and then somehow add a context menu to the URL box (or a page number box) to bring up the same list of pages that the other context menu brings up - still quite easy but seems possibly a bit non-intuitive to the end user... We add an Optional Property called Page Link (or whatever) and it is a dropdown populated with all the pages (not even sure if this can be currently done).. Some other way yet to be suggested?? Before I start making any model code changes and having code in the wild which might end up needing changed I thought i'd throw this open to you all for comment... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul [P.Catherall at liverpool.ac.uk] Sent: 12 July 2013 18:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally yes its the thumbnail ?specified URL? (see below) at http://xertetest.liv.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=552 (the item should be public) thanks for looking at this... paul [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE7F2E.26F9A080] [cid:image002.png at 01CE7F2E.26F9A080] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 18:12 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Hi John I think it's the thumnail viewer page rather than perspectives page. Can't tell for sure as I don't think Paul's install is public. Can't reach the link below. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 July 2013 18:02 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Hi Paul Leave it with me. I'll take look tonight at adding the asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 functionality in to the perspectives urls Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Catherall, Paul" > wrote: yes that works but unfortunately it opens the template page in a new window, so the navigation proliferates windows, doesn't look like there's a way to force the target to self from that thumbnail URL... e.g. http://xertetest.liv.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=552&page=3 many thanks From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 16:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Ah can't remember exactly when John added that functionality but once it's in place you should see the following: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] Then [cid:image002.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] But what should work in the version you have even without the resume functionaility is appending &page=3 and &page=4 etc to the public LO url. So try http:// yourlolink&page=3 does that work? If so you could adjust that for each thumb url HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 16:04 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally That might not work in the thumnail viewer because I think the url field there is just looking for a http address. However on the learning object properties enable the optional resume property. Then each page will have #1 #2 etc to deep link to those pages. You could then add a relevant link to each thumbnail. It will reload the LO each time but perhaps that doesn't matter? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul Sent: 12 July 2013 15:36 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally So if I end up with a URL like asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 generated by clicking "page link" this works when using something like test ...in a text arra... however if I add asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 ..to the URL field in "thumbnail viewer" template I get [cid:image003.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] I'm assuming I need the full argument/path before the function? thanks Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 15:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally What version are you using? Right click in a text area and select Page Link you'll see a more reliable option for linking between pages. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul Sent: 12 July 2013 14:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] linking internally Hi quick question, hopefully not duplicating an existing discussion. 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Name: ATT00001.txt URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jul 15 09:22:52 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:22:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03432@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <051C30B1-7B3C-4FE2-BBB6-405500C0FE6D@pgogywebstuff.com> Xampp is apache? I would suspect whitespace somewhere is breaking the session On 12 Jul 2013, at 16:40, "Smith, John" wrote: > Yeah I don?t think so either, although the restarting of the session in upload.php on Firefox or Safari was known to kill the existing session and create a new one, effectively logging the person out, before the fix was put in place. But I don?t think this is related and the fact that both Safari and Firefox were being used was/is a red herring? turned out that Chrome, while not giving the HTTPError message was still not able to upload the image!! > > I think it?s to do with Apache on the Mac so have suggested running XAMPP instead? It may be entirely possible that each problematic install is a unique problem, or related to their setup/environment ? it would be good to know and fix/detect/advise but I don?t think we can catch everything? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:09 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? > > > Not really my area but the intermittent nature would make one think some action seemingly unrelated to the upload function itself might be killing the session. > > Something like, when it comes up on the default Project tab I usually (but not always) hit Save as a matter of habit. > > If some of the affected folks could give us the EXACT series of steps they took prior to the error message? > > > > > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:18:54 +0100 > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? > > > > Yeah, not really sure why... even the latest person I've been helping, he was using Safari and Firefox so thought it was the classic Flash Bug but Chrome reports that it has uploaded, yet preview isn't available (because it didn't work) and I've just tested a brand new install v2.0/R1024 again in both Mac Safari and Mac/Windows Firefox and all works for me... > > > > It must be a server issue but I'm at a loss as to what it is... the guy i've been trying to debug from the Forum has it locally installed on a Mac (not using XAMPP) so I think something is at play there but it's hard to debug when you are remote... > > > > His issue seems to be the session bug you experienced though (and Pat thinks so too) because not only the media issue but random logouts and an error message when he accesses Media and Quota tab say something like "you do not have permission to access this resource"... which usually occurs if your session has expired... > > > > But the PHP settings look fine... Relaxing the upload.php security will probably fix the media upload issue but not solve the underlying issue... maybe setup is mis-reporting something as being ok when it's not?? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 1:43 PM > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? > > > > See below. We could do with elimating the media upload issue, which still seems to be happening on some new installs, ________________________________________ > > From: Terry McAndrew [Terry.McAndrew at heacademy.ac.uk] > > Sent: 12 July 2013 11:50 > > To: Julian Tenney; Smith, John > > Cc: Alistair McNaught > > Subject: Xerte for Students - incoming problem? > > > > Hi > > > > I have the initial meeting for my HEA Digital Literacy in the Disciplines projects coming up next week (9 projects) but I?m hearing rumblings that the buggyness of Xerte is going to be a problem for committing students to produce marked work with it. I?ll know more next week when I meet them, but this media upload problem seems to be a worry. > > > > I see there has been a thread about this in the support forum at http://xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=69&Itemid=759&lang=en&limitstart=6 > > > > I?m not a php developer either but I do understand the principles having managed servers in the past. > > > > This DL in the Disciplines series of projects will establish not only a network of Xerte installations in HE with the HEA but also a habit of empowering students in a number of disciplines to be creative with it ? and they can be a grumbly bunch when it gives them grief. If you have any suggestions as to how I might placate their fears then please let me know before I meet the Academics on Wednesday next week. > > > > I have deliberately bound all the projects to Xerte as I can imagine the benefits. Are these issues just teething troubles or is there an ?expectations management? I should address? 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In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AA03427@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB027DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> thanks -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 July 2013 14:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Thumbnails are great - except one... Ok that's them fixed in trunk and v2 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:01 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Thumbnails are great - except one... can you shrink it down to 200px wide? Sorry, I'm not at my PC today ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 12 July 2013 00:32 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Thumbnails are great - except one... Julian, The Interactive Diagram thumbnail is coming up full size... 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 15 11:17:18 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:17:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to wizard.swf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB028CE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Copied, pasted, and committed. I haven't tested it. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 July 2013 16:19 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Changes to wizard.swf Importance: High Hi, This has been a bug-bear of mine for a while... holding down shift/pressing play on a sub-node of a page (should open that page) has never worked, but always gone to page 1.. Well I think I have it solved... Can someone add this code to the wizard and then commit if appropriate as I don't have commit rights to the xerte google code project, only the toolkits... //if shift is down, jump straight to this page if (Key.isDown(Key.SHIFT)){ // First we find the top page of the currently selected node current_node = tree.selectedNode; while (current_node.parentNode.nodeName != "learningObject" && current_node.parentNode.nodeName != undefined) { current_node = current_node.parentNode; } // Then get the linkID or assign one... linkID = current_node.attributes.linkID; if ( linkID == undefined){ current_node.attributes.linkID = 'PG' + new Date().getTime(); linkID = current_node.attributes.linkID; } if(_root.apache!="false"){ url += '_' + linkID; }else{ url += '&linkID=' + linkID; } } saveFile(); Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 15 13:07:32 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:07:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: linking internally In-Reply-To: References: <010701ce7f22$e2a71760$a7f54620$@co.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB029BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > We add an Optional Property called Page Link (or whatever) and it is a dropdown populated with all the pages (not even sure if this can be currently done).. This can be done, it's type is pageList. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 July 2013 23:28 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Importance: High Hi, So i'm wondering the best way to approach this... Paul Catherall @ liverpool would like to be able to link the thumbnail viewer thumbs to specific pages (which seems like an obvious feature enhancement)... Now he seems confident at using the asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink to do this, however the "Specified URL" option doesn't allow that... but I can change the model easily to support this but is that then making this feature less accessible to those not confident at using the asfunction call... so I can see 3 (or more) possible other ways... We just change the mode and allow asfunction in the "Specified URL" box - easiest but seems least intuitive... We add a "Page Link" to the dropdown and then somehow add a context menu to the URL box (or a page number box) to bring up the same list of pages that the other context menu brings up - still quite easy but seems possibly a bit non-intuitive to the end user... We add an Optional Property called Page Link (or whatever) and it is a dropdown populated with all the pages (not even sure if this can be currently done).. Some other way yet to be suggested?? Before I start making any model code changes and having code in the wild which might end up needing changed I thought i'd throw this open to you all for comment... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul [P.Catherall at liverpool.ac.uk] Sent: 12 July 2013 18:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally yes its the thumbnail "specified URL" (see below) at http://xertetest.liv.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=552 (the item should be public) thanks for looking at this... paul [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE7F2E.26F9A080] [cid:image002.png at 01CE7F2E.26F9A080] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 18:12 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Hi John I think it's the thumnail viewer page rather than perspectives page. Can't tell for sure as I don't think Paul's install is public. Can't reach the link below. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 July 2013 18:02 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Hi Paul Leave it with me. I'll take look tonight at adding the asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 functionality in to the perspectives urls Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Catherall, Paul" > wrote: yes that works but unfortunately it opens the template page in a new window, so the navigation proliferates windows, doesn't look like there's a way to force the target to self from that thumbnail URL... e.g. http://xertetest.liv.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=552&page=3 many thanks From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 16:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Ah can't remember exactly when John added that functionality but once it's in place you should see the following: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] Then [cid:image002.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] But what should work in the version you have even without the resume functionaility is appending &page=3 and &page=4 etc to the public LO url. So try http:// yourlolink&page=3 does that work? If so you could adjust that for each thumb url HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 16:04 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally That might not work in the thumnail viewer because I think the url field there is just looking for a http address. However on the learning object properties enable the optional resume property. Then each page will have #1 #2 etc to deep link to those pages. You could then add a relevant link to each thumbnail. It will reload the LO each time but perhaps that doesn't matter? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul Sent: 12 July 2013 15:36 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally So if I end up with a URL like asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 generated by clicking "page link" this works when using something like test ...in a text arra... however if I add asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 ..to the URL field in "thumbnail viewer" template I get [cid:image003.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] I'm assuming I need the full argument/path before the function? thanks Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 15:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally What version are you using? Right click in a text area and select Page Link you'll see a more reliable option for linking between pages. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul Sent: 12 July 2013 14:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] linking internally Hi quick question, hopefully not duplicating an existing discussion. Does anyone know if the path has changed in Xenith for linking internally, e.g. ok this results in a the following for me: thanks paul [cid:image004.png at 01CE7F29.21D44830] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jul 15 13:51:13 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:51:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Message-ID: Ok. Seems like the most appropriate way to add this functionality.... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: > We add an Optional Property called Page Link (or whatever) and it is a dropdown populated with all the pages (not even sure if this can be currently done).. This can be done, it's type is pageList. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 July 2013 23:28 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Importance: High Hi, So i'm wondering the best way to approach this... Paul Catherall @ liverpool would like to be able to link the thumbnail viewer thumbs to specific pages (which seems like an obvious feature enhancement)... Now he seems confident at using the asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink to do this, however the "Specified URL" option doesn't allow that... but I can change the model easily to support this but is that then making this feature less accessible to those not confident at using the asfunction call... so I can see 3 (or more) possible other ways... We just change the mode and allow asfunction in the "Specified URL" box - easiest but seems least intuitive... We add a "Page Link" to the dropdown and then somehow add a context menu to the URL box (or a page number box) to bring up the same list of pages that the other context menu brings up - still quite easy but seems possibly a bit non-intuitive to the end user... We add an Optional Property called Page Link (or whatever) and it is a dropdown populated with all the pages (not even sure if this can be currently done).. Some other way yet to be suggested?? Before I start making any model code changes and having code in the wild which might end up needing changed I thought i'd throw this open to you all for comment... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul [P.Catherall at liverpool.ac.uk] Sent: 12 July 2013 18:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally yes its the thumbnail "specified URL" (see below) at http://xertetest.liv.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=552 (the item should be public) thanks for looking at this... paul [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE7F2E.26F9A080] [cid:image002.png at 01CE7F2E.26F9A080] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 18:12 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Hi John I think it's the thumnail viewer page rather than perspectives page. Can't tell for sure as I don't think Paul's install is public. Can't reach the link below. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 July 2013 18:02 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Hi Paul Leave it with me. I'll take look tonight at adding the asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 functionality in to the perspectives urls Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Catherall, Paul" > wrote: yes that works but unfortunately it opens the template page in a new window, so the navigation proliferates windows, doesn't look like there's a way to force the target to self from that thumbnail URL... e.g. http://xertetest.liv.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=552&page=3 many thanks From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 16:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Ah can't remember exactly when John added that functionality but once it's in place you should see the following: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] Then [cid:image002.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] But what should work in the version you have even without the resume functionaility is appending &page=3 and &page=4 etc to the public LO url. So try http:// yourlolink&page=3 does that work? If so you could adjust that for each thumb url HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 16:04 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally That might not work in the thumnail viewer because I think the url field there is just looking for a http address. However on the learning object properties enable the optional resume property. Then each page will have #1 #2 etc to deep link to those pages. You could then add a relevant link to each thumbnail. It will reload the LO each time but perhaps that doesn't matter? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul Sent: 12 July 2013 15:36 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally So if I end up with a URL like asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 generated by clicking "page link" this works when using something like test ...in a text arra... however if I add asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 ..to the URL field in "thumbnail viewer" template I get [cid:image003.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] I'm assuming I need the full argument/path before the function? thanks Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 15:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally What version are you using? Right click in a text area and select Page Link you'll see a more reliable option for linking between pages. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul Sent: 12 July 2013 14:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] linking internally Hi quick question, hopefully not duplicating an existing discussion. Does anyone know if the path has changed in Xenith for linking internally, e.g. ok this results in a the following for me: thanks paul [cid:image004.png at 01CE7F29.21D44830] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 15 13:52:23 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:52:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: linking internally In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB029EF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, I think so, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 15 July 2013 13:51 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Ok. Seems like the most appropriate way to add this functionality.... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: > We add an Optional Property called Page Link (or whatever) and it is a dropdown populated with all the pages (not even sure if this can be currently done).. This can be done, it's type is pageList. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 July 2013 23:28 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Importance: High Hi, So i'm wondering the best way to approach this... Paul Catherall @ liverpool would like to be able to link the thumbnail viewer thumbs to specific pages (which seems like an obvious feature enhancement)... Now he seems confident at using the asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink to do this, however the "Specified URL" option doesn't allow that... but I can change the model easily to support this but is that then making this feature less accessible to those not confident at using the asfunction call... so I can see 3 (or more) possible other ways... We just change the mode and allow asfunction in the "Specified URL" box - easiest but seems least intuitive... We add a "Page Link" to the dropdown and then somehow add a context menu to the URL box (or a page number box) to bring up the same list of pages that the other context menu brings up - still quite easy but seems possibly a bit non-intuitive to the end user... We add an Optional Property called Page Link (or whatever) and it is a dropdown populated with all the pages (not even sure if this can be currently done).. Some other way yet to be suggested?? Before I start making any model code changes and having code in the wild which might end up needing changed I thought i'd throw this open to you all for comment... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul [P.Catherall at liverpool.ac.uk] Sent: 12 July 2013 18:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally yes its the thumbnail "specified URL" (see below) at http://xertetest.liv.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=552 (the item should be public) thanks for looking at this... paul [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE7F2E.26F9A080] [cid:image002.png at 01CE7F2E.26F9A080] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 18:12 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Hi John I think it's the thumnail viewer page rather than perspectives page. Can't tell for sure as I don't think Paul's install is public. Can't reach the link below. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 July 2013 18:02 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Hi Paul Leave it with me. I'll take look tonight at adding the asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 functionality in to the perspectives urls Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Catherall, Paul" > wrote: yes that works but unfortunately it opens the template page in a new window, so the navigation proliferates windows, doesn't look like there's a way to force the target to self from that thumbnail URL... e.g. http://xertetest.liv.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=552&page=3 many thanks From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 16:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally Ah can't remember exactly when John added that functionality but once it's in place you should see the following: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] Then [cid:image002.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] But what should work in the version you have even without the resume functionaility is appending &page=3 and &page=4 etc to the public LO url. So try http:// yourlolink&page=3 does that work? If so you could adjust that for each thumb url HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 16:04 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally That might not work in the thumnail viewer because I think the url field there is just looking for a http address. However on the learning object properties enable the optional resume property. Then each page will have #1 #2 etc to deep link to those pages. You could then add a relevant link to each thumbnail. It will reload the LO each time but perhaps that doesn't matter? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul Sent: 12 July 2013 15:36 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally So if I end up with a URL like asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 generated by clicking "page link" this works when using something like test ...in a text arra... however if I add asfunction:_level0.engine.rootIcon.pageLink,PG1373635031616 ..to the URL field in "thumbnail viewer" template I get [cid:image003.jpg at 01CE7F29.21D44830] I'm assuming I need the full argument/path before the function? thanks Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 July 2013 15:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: linking internally What version are you using? Right click in a text area and select Page Link you'll see a more reliable option for linking between pages. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk c.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul Sent: 12 July 2013 14:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] linking internally Hi quick question, hopefully not duplicating an existing discussion. Does anyone know if the path has changed in Xenith for linking internally, e.g. ok this results in a the following for me: thanks paul [cid:image004.png at 01CE7F29.21D44830] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 16 13:26:58 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:26:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Message-ID: Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum... still not getting anywhere with it though... So, I've patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what's being passed from the editor... the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn't even look as if it's being called... If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes... even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 16 13:36:06 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:36:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> No, I'm stumped. It's not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum... still not getting anywhere with it though... So, I've patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what's being passed from the editor... the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn't even look as if it's being called... If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes... even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 16 13:38:40 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:38:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The other weird thing was media and quota didn't work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don't think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it's not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I'm stumped. It's not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum... still not getting anywhere with it though... So, I've patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what's being passed from the editor... the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn't even look as if it's being called... If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes... even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 16 13:47:53 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:47:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have full access as user and admin... Not to the filesystem... But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn't changed... at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn't appear to be the case either... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn't work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don't think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it's not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I'm stumped. It's not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum... still not getting anywhere with it though... So, I've patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what's being passed from the editor... the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn't even look as if it's being called... If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes... even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 16 14:38:43 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:38:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: And so the plot thickens... On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: [cid:image001.png at 01CE8231.A9F558C0] Notice the '302 - Found' code. Now I wasn't sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means "Yes the file is here so please submit again!!". So I tried on my server and get this: [cid:image002.png at 01CE8232.2BB522F0] So what I expected, a 200 OK code... The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ...upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request... Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I have full access as user and admin... Not to the filesystem... But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn't changed... at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn't appear to be the case either... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn't work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don't think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it's not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I'm stumped. It's not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum... still not getting anywhere with it though... So, I've patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what's being passed from the editor... the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn't even look as if it's being called... If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes... even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Request URL: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 2. Request Method: POST 3. Status Code: 302 Found 4. Request Headersview source 1. Accept: */* 2. Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch 3. Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 4. Connection: keep-alive 5. Content-Length: 595710 6. Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 7. Cookie: PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 8. Host: uol-bioset.com 9. Origin: http://uol-bioset.com 10. Referer: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 11. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded 1. path: USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ 2. BROWSER: safari 3. AUTH: xerte 4. PHPSESSID: 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 6. Request Payload 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- 7. Response Headersview source 1. Connection: Keep-Alive 2. Content-Length: 197 3. Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 4. Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT 5. Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100 6. Location: /mod_sec.html 7. Server: Apache Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And so the plot thickens... On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: [cid:image001.png at 01CE8233.2F461C70] Notice the '302 - Found' code. Now I wasn't sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means "Yes the file is here so please submit again!!". So I tried on my server and get this: [cid:image002.png at 01CE8233.2F461C70] So what I expected, a 200 OK code... The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ...upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request... Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I have full access as user and admin... Not to the filesystem... But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn't changed... at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn't appear to be the case either... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn't work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don't think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it's not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I'm stumped. It's not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum... still not getting anywhere with it though... So, I've patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what's being passed from the editor... the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn't even look as if it's being called... If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes... even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) POST POST / HTTP/1.0 Host: uol-bioset.com Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip Accept: */* Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT Server: Apache Location: /mod_sec.html Content-Length: 197 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Ah didn't read as far as I should have... 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html [cid:image003.jpg at 01CE8234.7A8B68B0] http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html 1. Request URL: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 2. Request Method: POST 3. Status Code: 302 Found 4. Request Headersview source 1. Accept: */* 2. Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch 3. Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 4. Connection: keep-alive 5. Content-Length: 595710 6. Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 7. Cookie: PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 8. Host: uol-bioset.com 9. Origin: http://uol-bioset.com 10. Referer: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 11. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded 1. path: USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ 2. BROWSER: safari 3. AUTH: xerte 4. PHPSESSID: 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 6. Request Payload 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- 7. Response Headersview source 1. Connection: Keep-Alive 2. Content-Length: 197 3. Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 4. Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT 5. Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100 6. Location: /mod_sec.html 7. Server: Apache Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And so the plot thickens... On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: [cid:image004.png at 01CE8234.7A8B68B0] Notice the '302 - Found' code. Now I wasn't sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means "Yes the file is here so please submit again!!". So I tried on my server and get this: [cid:image005.png at 01CE8234.7A8B68B0] So what I expected, a 200 OK code... The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ...upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request... Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I have full access as user and admin... Not to the filesystem... But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn't changed... at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn't appear to be the case either... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn't work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don't think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it's not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I'm stumped. It's not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum... still not getting anywhere with it though... So, I've patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what's being passed from the editor... the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn't even look as if it's being called... If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes... even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hoist yourself a pint o' heavy on me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And now I've run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same... POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) POST POST / HTTP/1.0 Host: uol-bioset.com Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip Accept: */* Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT Server: Apache Location: /mod_sec.html Content-Length: 197 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Ah didn't read as far as I should have... 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE823B.4A6E3160] http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html 1. Request URL: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 2. Request Method: POST 3. Status Code: 302 Found 4. Request Headersview source 1. Accept: */* 2. Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch 3. Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 4. Connection: keep-alive 5. Content-Length: 595710 6. Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 7. Cookie: PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 8. Host: uol-bioset.com 9. Origin: http://uol-bioset.com 10. Referer: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 11. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded 1. path: USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ 2. BROWSER: safari 3. AUTH: xerte 4. PHPSESSID: 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 6. Request Payload 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- 7. Response Headersview source 1. Connection: Keep-Alive 2. Content-Length: 197 3. Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 4. Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT 5. Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100 6. Location: /mod_sec.html 7. Server: Apache Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And so the plot thickens... On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: [cid:image002.png at 01CE823B.4A6E3160] Notice the '302 - Found' code. Now I wasn't sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means "Yes the file is here so please submit again!!". So I tried on my server and get this: [cid:image003.png at 01CE823B.4A6E3160] So what I expected, a 200 OK code... The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ...upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request... Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I have full access as user and admin... Not to the filesystem... But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn't changed... at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn't appear to be the case either... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn't work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don't think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it's not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I'm stumped. It's not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum... still not getting anywhere with it though... So, I've patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what's being passed from the editor... the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn't even look as if it's being called... If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes... even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? 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Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media That's great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o' heavy on me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And now I've run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same... POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) POST POST / HTTP/1.0 Host: uol-bioset.com Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip Accept: */* Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT Server: Apache Location: /mod_sec.html Content-Length: 197 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Ah didn't read as far as I should have... 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE823B.F50AA540] http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html 1. Request URL: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 2. Request Method: POST 3. Status Code: 302 Found 4. Request Headersview source 1. Accept: */* 2. Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch 3. Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 4. Connection: keep-alive 5. Content-Length: 595710 6. Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 7. Cookie: PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 8. Host: uol-bioset.com 9. Origin: http://uol-bioset.com 10. Referer: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 11. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded 1. path: USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ 2. BROWSER: safari 3. AUTH: xerte 4. PHPSESSID: 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 6. Request Payload 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- 7. Response Headersview source 1. Connection: Keep-Alive 2. Content-Length: 197 3. Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 4. Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT 5. Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100 6. Location: /mod_sec.html 7. Server: Apache Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And so the plot thickens... On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: [cid:image002.png at 01CE823B.F50AA540] Notice the '302 - Found' code. Now I wasn't sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means "Yes the file is here so please submit again!!". So I tried on my server and get this: [cid:image003.png at 01CE823B.F50AA540] So what I expected, a 200 OK code... The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ...upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request... Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I have full access as user and admin... Not to the filesystem... But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn't changed... at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn't appear to be the case either... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn't work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don't think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it's not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I'm stumped. It's not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum... still not getting anywhere with it though... So, I've patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what's being passed from the editor... the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn't even look as if it's being called... If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes... even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Yes, it is really good to show it wasn't our code, thanks so much for your efforts there, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 15:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I need more than a pint!! I'm glad we've proved though that it's not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media That's great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o' heavy on me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And now I've run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same... POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) POST POST / HTTP/1.0 Host: uol-bioset.com Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip Accept: */* Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT Server: Apache Location: /mod_sec.html Content-Length: 197 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Ah didn't read as far as I should have... 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE823D.00140110] http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html 1. Request URL: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 2. Request Method: POST 3. Status Code: 302 Found 4. Request Headersview source 1. Accept: */* 2. Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch 3. Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 4. Connection: keep-alive 5. Content-Length: 595710 6. Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 7. Cookie: PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 8. Host: uol-bioset.com 9. Origin: http://uol-bioset.com 10. Referer: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 11. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded 1. path: USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ 2. BROWSER: safari 3. AUTH: xerte 4. PHPSESSID: 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 6. Request Payload 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- 7. Response Headersview source 1. Connection: Keep-Alive 2. Content-Length: 197 3. Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 4. Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT 5. Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100 6. Location: /mod_sec.html 7. Server: Apache Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And so the plot thickens... On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: [cid:image002.png at 01CE823D.00140110] Notice the '302 - Found' code. Now I wasn't sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means "Yes the file is here so please submit again!!". So I tried on my server and get this: [cid:image003.png at 01CE823D.00140110] So what I expected, a 200 OK code... The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ...upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request... Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I have full access as user and admin... Not to the filesystem... But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn't changed... at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn't appear to be the case either... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn't work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don't think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it's not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I'm stumped. It's not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum... still not getting anywhere with it though... So, I've patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what's being passed from the editor... the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn't even look as if it's being called... If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes... even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? 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Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 9601 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jul 16 19:20:15 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:20:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2387@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE236F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2387@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <0AB79324-B9B1-4B77-BD78-26A9DE108985@pgogywebstuff.com> Are we sure it isn't us. I will google flash mod_sec later on On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:56, Julian Tenney wrote: > Well, these warm summer evenings have got ?drink beer? written all over them! Yes, it is really good to show it wasn?t our code, thanks so much for your efforts there, > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 15:49 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I need more than a pint!! > > I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html > > > Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) > > POST > POST / HTTP/1.0 > Host: uol-bioset.com > Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip > Accept: */* > Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ > > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT > Server: Apache > Location: /mod_sec.html > Content-Length: 197 > Connection: close > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html > > > > http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html > > 1. Request URL: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 2. Request Method: > POST > 3. Status Code: > 302 Found > 4. Request Headersview source > 1. Accept: > */* > 2. Accept-Encoding: > gzip,deflate,sdch > 3. Accept-Language: > en-US,en;q=0.8 > 4. Connection: > keep-alive > 5. Content-Length: > 595710 > 6. Content-Type: > multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 > 7. Cookie: > PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 8. Host: > uol-bioset.com > 9. Origin: > http://uol-bioset.com > 10. Referer: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 > 11. User-Agent: > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 > 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded > 1. path: > USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ > 2. BROWSER: > safari > 3. AUTH: > xerte > 4. PHPSESSID: > 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 > 6. Request Payload > 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- > 7. Response Headersview source > 1. Connection: > Keep-Alive > 2. Content-Length: > 197 > 3. Content-Type: > text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > 4. Date: > Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT > 5. Keep-Alive: > timeout=5, max=100 > 6. Location: > /mod_sec.html > 7. Server: > Apache > > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And so the plot thickens? > > On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: > > > > Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: > > > > So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed > > Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? > > Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I have full access as user and admin? > > Not to the filesystem? > > But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: > > file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); > > and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? > > - > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media > > Hi, > > Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? > > So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? > > If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt > > Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: > > array ( > 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', > 'BROWSER' => 'safari', > 'AUTH' => 'xerte', > 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', > ) > > However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). > > upload.php?path= > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jul 16 19:19:20 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:19:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7AB02DFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE236F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <6BCDE62A-FCB0-4D5B-BE9F-FFFB948366A0@pgogywebstuff.com> Sorry for not being more on this Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. XML is just a string I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request See if they behave differently? On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" wrote: > I need more than a pint!! > > I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html > > > Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) > > POST > POST / HTTP/1.0 > Host: uol-bioset.com > Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip > Accept: */* > Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ > > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT > Server: Apache > Location: /mod_sec.html > Content-Length: 197 > Connection: close > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html > > > > http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html > > 1. Request URL: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 2. Request Method: > POST > 3. Status Code: > 302 Found > 4. Request Headersview source > 1. Accept: > */* > 2. Accept-Encoding: > gzip,deflate,sdch > 3. Accept-Language: > en-US,en;q=0.8 > 4. Connection: > keep-alive > 5. Content-Length: > 595710 > 6. Content-Type: > multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 > 7. Cookie: > PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 8. Host: > uol-bioset.com > 9. Origin: > http://uol-bioset.com > 10. Referer: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 > 11. User-Agent: > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 > 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded > 1. path: > USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ > 2. BROWSER: > safari > 3. AUTH: > xerte > 4. PHPSESSID: > 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 > 6. Request Payload > 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- > 7. Response Headersview source > 1. Connection: > Keep-Alive > 2. Content-Length: > 197 > 3. Content-Type: > text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > 4. Date: > Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT > 5. Keep-Alive: > timeout=5, max=100 > 6. Location: > /mod_sec.html > 7. Server: > Apache > > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And so the plot thickens? > > On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: > > > > Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: > > > > So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed > > Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? > > Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I have full access as user and admin? > > Not to the filesystem? > > But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: > > file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); > > and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? > > - > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media > > Hi, > > Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? > > So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? > > If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt > > Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: > > array ( > 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', > 'BROWSER' => 'safari', > 'AUTH' => 'xerte', > 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', > ) > > However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). > > upload.php?path= > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 09:05:13 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:05:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Message-ID: <7p41igxew4w9kka8kbq8lx94.1374047804397@email.android.com> Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Sorry for not being more on this Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. XML is just a string I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request See if they behave differently? On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: I need more than a pint!! I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) POST POST / HTTP/1.0 Host: uol-bioset.com Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip Accept: */* Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT Server: Apache Location: /mod_sec.html Content-Length: 197 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html 1. Request URL: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 2. Request Method: POST 3. Status Code: 302 Found 4. Request Headersview source 1. Accept: */* 2. Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch 3. Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 4. Connection: keep-alive 5. Content-Length: 595710 6. Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 7. Cookie: PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 8. Host: uol-bioset.com 9. Origin: http://uol-bioset.com 10. Referer: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 11. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded 1. path: USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ 2. BROWSER: safari 3. AUTH: xerte 4. PHPSESSID: 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 6. Request Payload 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- 7. Response Headersview source 1. Connection: Keep-Alive 2. Content-Length: 197 3. Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 4. Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT 5. Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100 6. Location: /mod_sec.html 7. Server: Apache Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And so the plot thickens? On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I have full access as user and admin? Not to the filesystem? But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Jul 17 09:27:14 2013 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:27:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: <7p41igxew4w9kka8kbq8lx94.1374047804397@email.android.com> References: <7p41igxew4w9kka8kbq8lx94.1374047804397@email.android.com> Message-ID: <018701ce82c7$72a6a630$57f3f290$@co.uk> Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Sorry for not being more on this Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. XML is just a string I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request See if they behave differently? On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: I need more than a pint!! I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) POST POST / HTTP/1.0 Host: uol-bioset.com Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip Accept: */* Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT Server: Apache Location: /mod_sec.html Content-Length: 197 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html 1. Request URL: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 2. Request Method: POST 3. Status Code: 302 Found 4. Request Headersview source 1. Accept: */* 2. Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch 3. Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 4. Connection: keep-alive 5. Content-Length: 595710 6. Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 7. Cookie: PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 8. Host: uol-bioset.com 9. Origin: http://uol-bioset.com 10. Referer: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 11. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded 1. path: USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ 2. BROWSER: safari 3. AUTH: xerte 4. PHPSESSID: 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 6. Request Payload 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- 7. Response Headersview source 1. Connection: Keep-Alive 2. Content-Length: 197 3. Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 4. Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT 5. Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100 6. Location: /mod_sec.html 7. Server: Apache Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And so the plot thickens? On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I have full access as user and admin? Not to the filesystem? But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 09:38:48 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:38:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Message-ID: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Ron Mitchell wrote: Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Sorry for not being more on this Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. XML is just a string I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request See if they behave differently? On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: I need more than a pint!! I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) POST POST / HTTP/1.0 Host: uol-bioset.com Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip Accept: */* Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT Server: Apache Location: /mod_sec.html Content-Length: 197 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html 1. Request URL: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 2. Request Method: POST 3. Status Code: 302 Found 4. Request Headersview source 1. Accept: */* 2. Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch 3. Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 4. Connection: keep-alive 5. Content-Length: 595710 6. Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 7. Cookie: PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 8. Host: uol-bioset.com 9. Origin: http://uol-bioset.com 10. Referer: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 11. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded 1. path: USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ 2. BROWSER: safari 3. AUTH: xerte 4. PHPSESSID: 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 6. Request Payload 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- 7. Response Headersview source 1. Connection: Keep-Alive 2. Content-Length: 197 3. Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 4. Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT 5. Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100 6. Location: /mod_sec.html 7. Server: Apache Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And so the plot thickens? On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I have full access as user and admin? Not to the filesystem? But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 09:53:08 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:53:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> References: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> Message-ID: It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? SecFilterEngine Off SecFilterScanPOST Off Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Ron Mitchell wrote: Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Sorry for not being more on this Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. XML is just a string I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request See if they behave differently? On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: I need more than a pint!! I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) POST POST / HTTP/1.0 Host: uol-bioset.com Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip Accept: */* Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT Server: Apache Location: /mod_sec.html Content-Length: 197 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html 1. Request URL: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 2. Request Method: POST 3. Status Code: 302 Found 4. Request Headersview source 1. Accept: */* 2. Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch 3. Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 4. Connection: keep-alive 5. Content-Length: 595710 6. Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 7. Cookie: PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 8. Host: uol-bioset.com 9. Origin: http://uol-bioset.com 10. Referer: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 11. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded 1. path: USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ 2. BROWSER: safari 3. AUTH: xerte 4. PHPSESSID: 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 6. Request Payload 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- 7. Response Headersview source 1. Connection: Keep-Alive 2. Content-Length: 197 3. Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 4. Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT 5. Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100 6. Location: /mod_sec.html 7. Server: Apache Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And so the plot thickens? On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I have full access as user and admin? Not to the filesystem? But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Jul 17 10:04:24 2013 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:04:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: References: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> Message-ID: <01a201ce82cc$a37f20c0$ea7d6240$@co.uk> Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have to go in the same place as upload.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? SecFilterEngine Off SecFilterScanPOST Off Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Ron Mitchell wrote: Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Sorry for not being more on this Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. XML is just a string I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request See if they behave differently? On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: I need more than a pint!! I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) POST POST / HTTP/1.0 Host: uol-bioset.com Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip Accept: */* Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT Server: Apache Location: /mod_sec.html Content-Length: 197 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html 1. Request URL: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 2. Request Method: POST 3. Status Code: 302 Found 4. Request Headersview source 1. Accept: */* 2. Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch 3. Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 4. Connection: keep-alive 5. Content-Length: 595710 6. Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 7. Cookie: PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u 8. Host: uol-bioset.com 9. Origin: http://uol-bioset.com 10. Referer: http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 11. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded 1. path: USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ 2. BROWSER: safari 3. AUTH: xerte 4. PHPSESSID: 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 6. Request Payload 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- 7. Response Headersview source 1. Connection: Keep-Alive 2. Content-Length: 197 3. Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 4. Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT 5. Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100 6. Location: /mod_sec.html 7. Server: Apache Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media And so the plot thickens? On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I have full access as user and admin? Not to the filesystem? But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? - From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media Hi, Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: array ( 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', 'BROWSER' => 'safari', 'AUTH' => 'xerte', 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', ) However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). upload.php?path= Anyone have any ideas? 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01ac01ce82cf$4b00ae20$e1020a60$@co.uk> I've replied to a couple of those but until we can email replies the community forums don't work for me. On the road shortly and logging in to reply via mobile just isn't practical. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 10:00 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? 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Thanks anyway, I'll be able to keep an eye on it for some of today and hopefully Julian is around also... Bit concerned though about the number of install problems - perhaps we need to revisit the installer to make sure it is catching some other stuff... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:23 AM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? I've replied to a couple of those but until we can email replies the community forums don't work for me. On the road shortly and logging in to reply via mobile just isn't practical. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 11:05:10 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:05:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? In-Reply-To: References: <01ac01ce82cf$4b00ae20$e1020a60$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE25C0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > Bit concerned though about the number of install problems - perhaps we need to revisit the installer to make sure it is catching some other stuff... It's the one thing that really needs to work well, and be simple. We get a lot of feedback along the lines of 'written for geeks' re: the install guide (which, to be fair, it was, and if you can't get on with it, should you be installing the software anyway? Many people get on just fine, and we don't know what percentage of attempted installs are troublesome, or abandoned). I am around today, though installation isn't my strong suit. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? I know Ron, it's not ideal. Thanks anyway, I'll be able to keep an eye on it for some of today and hopefully Julian is around also... Bit concerned though about the number of install problems - perhaps we need to revisit the installer to make sure it is catching some other stuff... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:23 AM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? I've replied to a couple of those but until we can email replies the community forums don't work for me. On the road shortly and logging in to reply via mobile just isn't practical. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 10:00 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 11:15:19 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:15:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE25C0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <01ac01ce82cf$4b00ae20$e1020a60$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE25C0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Don't get me wrong, I'm not overly concerned... ;-) I've always thought about the installer, do we really need to tell people when things are ok? Or what table creation or insert query succeeded... I'd just be tempted to make it very lean, and only tell them when things went wrong... but is there anything extra that we can check? Plus why does database.txt sometimes get copied to database.php but with empty fields... I'm not getting that one? Surely if we can read it in and then write it out, we must be doing something wrong in the middle? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:05 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? > Bit concerned though about the number of install problems - perhaps we need to revisit the installer to make sure it is catching some other stuff... It's the one thing that really needs to work well, and be simple. We get a lot of feedback along the lines of 'written for geeks' re: the install guide (which, to be fair, it was, and if you can't get on with it, should you be installing the software anyway? Many people get on just fine, and we don't know what percentage of attempted installs are troublesome, or abandoned). I am around today, though installation isn't my strong suit. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? I know Ron, it's not ideal. Thanks anyway, I'll be able to keep an eye on it for some of today and hopefully Julian is around also... Bit concerned though about the number of install problems - perhaps we need to revisit the installer to make sure it is catching some other stuff... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:23 AM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? I've replied to a couple of those but until we can email replies the community forums don't work for me. On the road shortly and logging in to reply via mobile just isn't practical. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 10:00 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jul 17 09:38:39 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:38:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: <018701ce82c7$72a6a630$57f3f290$@co.uk> References: <7p41igxew4w9kka8kbq8lx94.1374047804397@email.android.com> <018701ce82c7$72a6a630$57f3f290$@co.uk> Message-ID: <0353F779-3758-4E8E-A2AC-D4200D984A9C@pgogywebstuff.com> See other email - guessing there are htaccess like rules On 17 Jul 2013, at 09:27, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? > > I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > Sorry for not being more on this > > Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. > > XML is just a string > > I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. > > If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request > > See if they behave differently? > > On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: > > I need more than a pint!! > > I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html > > > Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) > > POST > POST / HTTP/1.0 > Host: uol-bioset.com > Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip > Accept: */* > Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ > > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT > Server: Apache > Location: /mod_sec.html > Content-Length: 197 > Connection: close > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html > > > > http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html > > 1. Request URL: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 2. Request Method: > POST > 3. Status Code: > 302 Found > 4. Request Headersview source > 1. Accept: > */* > 2. Accept-Encoding: > gzip,deflate,sdch > 3. Accept-Language: > en-US,en;q=0.8 > 4. Connection: > keep-alive > 5. Content-Length: > 595710 > 6. Content-Type: > multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 > 7. Cookie: > PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 8. Host: > uol-bioset.com > 9. Origin: > http://uol-bioset.com > 10. Referer: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 > 11. User-Agent: > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 > 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded > 1. path: > USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ > 2. BROWSER: > safari > 3. AUTH: > xerte > 4. PHPSESSID: > 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 > 6. Request Payload > 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- > 7. Response Headersview source > 1. Connection: > Keep-Alive > 2. Content-Length: > 197 > 3. Content-Type: > text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > 4. Date: > Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT > 5. Keep-Alive: > timeout=5, max=100 > 6. Location: > /mod_sec.html > 7. Server: > Apache > > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And so the plot thickens? > > On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: > > > > Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: > > > > So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed > > Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? > > Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I have full access as user and admin? > > Not to the filesystem? > > But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: > > file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); > > and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? > > > - > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media > > Hi, > > Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? > > So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? > > If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt > > Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: > > array ( > 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', > 'BROWSER' => 'safari', > 'AUTH' => 'xerte', > 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', > ) > > However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). > > upload.php?path= > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Car From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jul 17 09:36:40 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:36:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: <7p41igxew4w9kka8kbq8lx94.1374047804397@email.android.com> References: <7p41igxew4w9kka8kbq8lx94.1374047804397@email.android.com> Message-ID: Well the coming from flash would seem to be the big difference - user agents? I got back late so will look at mod sec later - assuming its an apache module you configure? On 17 Jul 2013, at 09:05, "Smith, John" wrote: > Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? > > I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > Sorry for not being more on this > > Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. > > XML is just a string > > I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. > > If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request > > See if they behave differently? > > On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: > > I need more than a pint!! > > I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html > > > Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) > > POST > POST / HTTP/1.0 > Host: uol-bioset.com > Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip > Accept: */* > Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ > > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT > Server: Apache > Location: /mod_sec.html > Content-Length: 197 > Connection: close > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html > > > > http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html > > 1. Request URL: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 2. Request Method: > POST > 3. Status Code: > 302 Found > 4. Request Headersview source > 1. Accept: > */* > 2. Accept-Encoding: > gzip,deflate,sdch > 3. Accept-Language: > en-US,en;q=0.8 > 4. Connection: > keep-alive > 5. Content-Length: > 595710 > 6. Content-Type: > multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 > 7. Cookie: > PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 8. Host: > uol-bioset.com > 9. Origin: > http://uol-bioset.com > 10. Referer: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 > 11. User-Agent: > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 > 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded > 1. path: > USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ > 2. BROWSER: > safari > 3. AUTH: > xerte > 4. PHPSESSID: > 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 > 6. Request Payload > 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- > 7. Response Headersview source > 1. Connection: > Keep-Alive > 2. Content-Length: > 197 > 3. Content-Type: > text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > 4. Date: > Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT > 5. Keep-Alive: > timeout=5, max=100 > 6. Location: > /mod_sec.html > 7. Server: > Apache > > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And so the plot thickens? > > On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: > > > > Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: > > > > So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed > > Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? > > Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I have full access as user and admin? > > Not to the filesystem? > > But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: > > file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); > > and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? > > > - > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media > > Hi, > > Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? > > So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? > > If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt > > Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: > > array ( > 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', > 'BROWSER' => 'safari', > 'AUTH' => 'xerte', > 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', > ) > > However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). > > upload.php?path= > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it bac From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 11:51:25 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:51:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: References: <7p41igxew4w9kka8kbq8lx94.1374047804397@email.android.com> Message-ID: Yeah, I think mod_security is filtering the POST data and finding a missing boundary that is flagging it as potential security breach... A .htaccess rule or more likely something the sysadmin can configure should be able to fix it... Not hear back from the guy on the forum yet though... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:37 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Well the coming from flash would seem to be the big difference - user agents? I got back late so will look at mod sec later - assuming its an apache module you configure? On 17 Jul 2013, at 09:05, "Smith, John" wrote: > Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? > > I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > Sorry for not being more on this > > Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. > > XML is just a string > > I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. > > If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request > > See if they behave differently? > > On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: > > I need more than a pint!! > > I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html > > > Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) > > POST > POST / HTTP/1.0 > Host: uol-bioset.com > Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip > Accept: */* > Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ > > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT > Server: Apache > Location: /mod_sec.html > Content-Length: 197 > Connection: close > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html > > > > http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html > > 1. Request URL: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 2. Request Method: > POST > 3. Status Code: > 302 Found > 4. Request Headersview source > 1. Accept: > */* > 2. Accept-Encoding: > gzip,deflate,sdch > 3. Accept-Language: > en-US,en;q=0.8 > 4. Connection: > keep-alive > 5. Content-Length: > 595710 > 6. Content-Type: > multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 > 7. Cookie: > PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 8. Host: > uol-bioset.com > 9. Origin: > http://uol-bioset.com > 10. Referer: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 > 11. User-Agent: > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 > 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded > 1. path: > USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ > 2. BROWSER: > safari > 3. AUTH: > xerte > 4. PHPSESSID: > 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 > 6. Request Payload > 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- > 7. Response Headersview source > 1. Connection: > Keep-Alive > 2. Content-Length: > 197 > 3. Content-Type: > text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > 4. Date: > Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT > 5. Keep-Alive: > timeout=5, max=100 > 6. Location: > /mod_sec.html > 7. Server: > Apache > > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And so the plot thickens? > > On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: > > > > Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: > > > > So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed > > Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? > > Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I have full access as user and admin? > > Not to the filesystem? > > But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: > > file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); > > and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? > > > - > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media > > Hi, > > Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? > > So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? > > If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt > > Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: > > array ( > 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', > 'BROWSER' => 'safari', > 'AUTH' => 'xerte', > 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', > ) > > However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). > > upload.php?path= > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it bac _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Jul 17 12:14:05 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:14:05 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: References: <7p41igxew4w9kka8kbq8lx94.1374047804397@email.android.com>, , Message-ID: So the "intermittent" report must have been a red herring? > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:51:25 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Yeah, I think mod_security is filtering the POST data and finding a missing boundary that is flagging it as potential security breach... > > A .htaccess rule or more likely something the sysadmin can configure should be able to fix it... > > Not hear back from the guy on the forum yet though... > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:37 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Well the coming from flash would seem to be the big difference - user agents? > > I got back late so will look at mod sec later - assuming its an apache module you configure? > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 09:05, "Smith, John" wrote: > > > Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? > > > > I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... > > > > Regards > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health and Life Sciences > > > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > > > > Sorry for not being more on this > > > > Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. > > > > XML is just a string > > > > I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. > > > > If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request > > > > See if they behave differently? > > > > On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: > > > > I need more than a pint!! > > > > I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html > > > > > > Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) > > > > POST > > POST / HTTP/1.0 > > Host: uol-bioset.com > > Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip > > Accept: */* > > Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ > > > > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT > > Server: Apache > > Location: /mod_sec.html > > Content-Length: 197 > > Connection: close > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html > > > > > > > > http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html > > > > 1. Request URL: > > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > > 2. Request Method: > > POST > > 3. Status Code: > > 302 Found > > 4. Request Headersview source > > 1. Accept: > > */* > > 2. Accept-Encoding: > > gzip,deflate,sdch > > 3. Accept-Language: > > en-US,en;q=0.8 > > 4. Connection: > > keep-alive > > 5. Content-Length: > > 595710 > > 6. Content-Type: > > multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 > > 7. Cookie: > > PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > > 8. Host: > > uol-bioset.com > > 9. Origin: > > http://uol-bioset.com > > 10. Referer: > > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 > > 11. User-Agent: > > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 > > 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded > > 1. path: > > USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ > > 2. BROWSER: > > safari > > 3. AUTH: > > xerte > > 4. PHPSESSID: > > 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 > > 6. Request Payload > > 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- > > 7. Response Headersview source > > 1. Connection: > > Keep-Alive > > 2. Content-Length: > > 197 > > 3. Content-Type: > > text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > 4. Date: > > Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT > > 5. Keep-Alive: > > timeout=5, max=100 > > 6. Location: > > /mod_sec.html > > 7. Server: > > Apache > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > And so the plot thickens? > > > > On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: > > > > > > > > Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: > > > > > > > > So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed > > > > Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? > > > > Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > I have full access as user and admin? > > > > Not to the filesystem? > > > > But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: > > > > file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); > > > > and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? > > > > > > - > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media > > > > Hi, > > > > Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? > > > > So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? > > > > If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt > > > > Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: > > > > array ( > > 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', > > 'BROWSER' => 'safari', > > 'AUTH' => 'xerte', > > 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', > > ) > > > > However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). > > > > upload.php?path= > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 13:04:24 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:04:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: References: <7p41igxew4w9kka8kbq8lx94.1374047804397@email.android.com>, , Message-ID: The intermittent thing was referring to the Sessions which I saw too when logged into the server and don't see on any of my setups (both linux and windows - I have 3 test subdomains [trunk - v2 - dev] and a Windows box running a semi-production setup, also, 3 similar sites on XAMPP. Don't see any session errors (that Julian sees too) on any of these setups so something is at play... We were sent off on a session/cookie tangent because of the Media &Quota tab not loading and the history with the Flash/Cookie issue - I should have spotted the 302 redirection on upload sooner than I did - my bad! Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:14 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media So the "intermittent" report must have been a red herring? > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:51:25 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Yeah, I think mod_security is filtering the POST data and finding a missing boundary that is flagging it as potential security breach... > > A .htaccess rule or more likely something the sysadmin can configure should be able to fix it... > > Not hear back from the guy on the forum yet though... > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:37 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Well the coming from flash would seem to be the big difference - user agents? > > I got back late so will look at mod sec later - assuming its an apache module you configure? > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 09:05, "Smith, John" > wrote: > > > Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? > > > > I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... > > > > Regards > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health and Life Sciences > > > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" > wrote: > > > > > > Sorry for not being more on this > > > > Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. > > > > XML is just a string > > > > I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. > > > > If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request > > > > See if they behave differently? > > > > On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" >> wrote: > > > > I need more than a pint!! > > > > I'm glad we've proved though that it's not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > That's great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o' heavy on me. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > And now I've run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same... POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html > > > > > > Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) > > > > POST > > POST / HTTP/1.0 > > Host: uol-bioset.com > > Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip > > Accept: */* > > Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ > > > > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT > > Server: Apache > > Location: /mod_sec.html > > Content-Length: 197 > > Connection: close > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > Ah didn't read as far as I should have... 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html > > > > > > > > http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html > > > > 1. Request URL: > > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > > 2. Request Method: > > POST > > 3. Status Code: > > 302 Found > > 4. Request Headersview source > > 1. Accept: > > */* > > 2. Accept-Encoding: > > gzip,deflate,sdch > > 3. Accept-Language: > > en-US,en;q=0.8 > > 4. Connection: > > keep-alive > > 5. Content-Length: > > 595710 > > 6. Content-Type: > > multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 > > 7. Cookie: > > PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > > 8. Host: > > uol-bioset.com > > 9. Origin: > > http://uol-bioset.com > > 10. Referer: > > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 > > 11. User-Agent: > > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 > > 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded > > 1. path: > > USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ > > 2. BROWSER: > > safari > > 3. AUTH: > > xerte > > 4. PHPSESSID: > > 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 > > 6. Request Payload > > 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- > > 7. Response Headersview source > > 1. Connection: > > Keep-Alive > > 2. Content-Length: > > 197 > > 3. Content-Type: > > text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > 4. Date: > > Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT > > 5. Keep-Alive: > > timeout=5, max=100 > > 6. Location: > > /mod_sec.html > > 7. Server: > > Apache > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > And so the plot thickens... > > > > On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: > > > > > > > > Notice the '302 - Found' code. Now I wasn't sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means "Yes the file is here so please submit again!!". So I tried on my server and get this: > > > > > > > > So what I expected, a 200 OK code... The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ...upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed > > > > Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request... > > > > Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > I have full access as user and admin... > > > > Not to the filesystem... > > > > But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: > > > > file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); > > > > and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn't changed... at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn't appear to be the case either... > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > The other weird thing was media and quota didn't work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don't think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it's not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > No, I'm stumped. It's not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? > > > > > > - > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media > > > > Hi, > > > > Decided to take this off the Forum... still not getting anywhere with it though... > > > > So, I've patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what's being passed from the editor... the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn't even look as if it's being called... > > > > If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt > > > > Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: > > > > array ( > > 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', > > 'BROWSER' => 'safari', > > 'AUTH' => 'xerte', > > 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', > > ) > > > > However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes... even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). > > > > upload.php?path= > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > > > Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:04:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media The intermittent thing was referring to the Sessions which I saw too when logged into the server and don?t see on any of my setups (both linux and windows ? I have 3 test subdomains [trunk ? v2 ? dev] and a Windows box running a semi-production setup, also, 3 similar sites on XAMPP. Don?t see any session errors (that Julian sees too) on any of these setups so something is at play? We were sent off on a session/cookie tangent because of the Media &Quota tab not loading and the history with the Flash/Cookie issue ? I should have spotted the 302 redirection on upload sooner than I did ? my bad! Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:14 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media So the "intermittent" report must have been a red herring? > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:51:25 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Yeah, I think mod_security is filtering the POST data and finding a missing boundary that is flagging it as potential security breach... > > A .htaccess rule or more likely something the sysadmin can configure should be able to fix it... > > Not hear back from the guy on the forum yet though... > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:37 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Well the coming from flash would seem to be the big difference - user agents? > > I got back late so will look at mod sec later - assuming its an apache module you configure? > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 09:05, "Smith, John" wrote: > > > Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? > > > > I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... > > > > Regards > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health and Life Sciences > > > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > > > > Sorry for not being more on this > > > > Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. > > > > XML is just a string > > > > I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. > > > > If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request > > > > See if they behave differently? > > > > On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: > > > > I need more than a pint!! > > > > I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html > > > > > > Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) > > > > POST > > POST / HTTP/1.0 > > Host: uol-bioset.com > > Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip > > Accept: */* > > Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ > > > > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT > > Server: Apache > > Location: /mod_sec.html > > Content-Length: 197 > > Connection: close > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html > > > > > > > > http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html > > > > 1. Request URL: > > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > > 2. Request Method: > > POST > > 3. Status Code: > > 302 Found > > 4. Request Headersview source > > 1. Accept: > > */* > > 2. Accept-Encoding: > > gzip,deflate,sdch > > 3. Accept-Language: > > en-US,en;q=0.8 > > 4. Connection: > > keep-alive > > 5. Content-Length: > > 595710 > > 6. Content-Type: > > multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 > > 7. Cookie: > > PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > > 8. Host: > > uol-bioset.com > > 9. Origin: > > http://uol-bioset.com > > 10. Referer: > > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 > > 11. User-Agent: > > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 > > 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded > > 1. path: > > USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ > > 2. BROWSER: > > safari > > 3. AUTH: > > xerte > > 4. PHPSESSID: > > 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 > > 6. Request Payload > > 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- > > 7. Response Headersview source > > 1. Connection: > > Keep-Alive > > 2. Content-Length: > > 197 > > 3. Content-Type: > > text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > 4. Date: > > Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT > > 5. Keep-Alive: > > timeout=5, max=100 > > 6. Location: > > /mod_sec.html > > 7. Server: > > Apache > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > And so the plot thickens? > > > > On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: > > > > > > > > Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: > > > > > > > > So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed > > > > Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? > > > > Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > I have full access as user and admin? > > > > Not to the filesystem? > > > > But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: > > > > file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); > > > > and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? > > > > > > - > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media > > > > Hi, > > > > Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? > > > > So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? > > > > If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt > > > > Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: > > > > array ( > > 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', > > 'BROWSER' => 'safari', > > 'AUTH' => 'xerte', > > 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', > > ) > > > > However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). > > > > upload.php?path= > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jul 17 14:18:06 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:18:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: <01a201ce82cc$a37f20c0$ea7d6240$@co.uk> References: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> <01a201ce82cc$a37f20c0$ea7d6240$@co.uk> Message-ID: <9B9270B5-BD4C-4F05-8BD9-AF80A455DEE1@pgogywebstuff.com> I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial hosts Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. > > If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have to go in the same place as upload.php > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... > > Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? > > > > SecFilterEngine Off > SecFilterScanPOST Off > > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... > > Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... > > We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? > > I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > Sorry for not being more on this > > Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. > > XML is just a string > > I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. > > If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request > > See if they behave differently? > > On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: > > I need more than a pint!! > > I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through /mod_sec.html > > > Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) > > POST > POST / HTTP/1.0 > Host: uol-bioset.com > Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip > Accept: */* > Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ > > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT > Server: Apache > Location: /mod_sec.html > Content-Length: 197 > Connection: close > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html > > > > http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html > > 1. Request URL: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 2. Request Method: > POST > 3. Status Code: > 302 Found > 4. Request Headersview source > 1. Accept: > */* > 2. Accept-Encoding: > gzip,deflate,sdch > 3. Accept-Language: > en-US,en;q=0.8 > 4. Connection: > keep-alive > 5. Content-Length: > 595710 > 6. Content-Type: > multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 > 7. Cookie: > PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 8. Host: > uol-bioset.com > 9. Origin: > http://uol-bioset.com > 10. Referer: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 > 11. User-Agent: > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 > 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded > 1. path: > USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ > 2. BROWSER: > safari > 3. AUTH: > xerte > 4. PHPSESSID: > 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 > 6. Request Payload > 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- > 7. Response Headersview source > 1. Connection: > Keep-Alive > 2. Content-Length: > 197 > 3. Content-Type: > text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > 4. Date: > Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT > 5. Keep-Alive: > timeout=5, max=100 > 6. Location: > /mod_sec.html > 7. Server: > Apache > > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And so the plot thickens? > > On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: > > > > Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: > > > > So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset url that received the 302 code, ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed > > Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? > > Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I have full access as user and admin? > > Not to the filesystem? > > But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: > > file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); > > and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? > > > - > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media > > Hi, > > Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it though? > > So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being called? > > If you go here http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John then it writes to parameters.txt at http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt > > Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: > > array ( > 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', > 'BROWSER' => 'safari', > 'AUTH' => 'xerte', > 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', > ) > > However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). > > upload.php?path= > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 14:21:44 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:21:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: <9B9270B5-BD4C-4F05-8BD9-AF80A455DEE1@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> <01a201ce82cc$a37f20c0$ea7d6240$@co.uk> <9B9270B5-BD4C-4F05-8BD9-AF80A455DEE1@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: We should develop an HTML5 based editor... wait... what... oh yeah... Mental note - less time on forum, more time writing code!! Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial hosts Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. > > If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting > then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have > to go in the same place as upload.php > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... > > Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? > > > > SecFilterEngine Off > SecFilterScanPOST Off > > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... > > Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... > > We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > John > Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? > > I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > Sorry for not being more on this > > Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. > > XML is just a string > > I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. > > If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request > > See if they behave differently? > > On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: > > I need more than a pint!! > > I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota > tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner > and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through > /mod_sec.html > > > Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) > > POST > POST / HTTP/1.0 > Host: uol-bioset.com > Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip > Accept: */* > Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ > > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT > Server: Apache > Location: /mod_sec.html > Content-Length: 197 > Connection: close > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection > URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html > > > > http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html > > 1. Request URL: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 2. Request Method: > POST > 3. Status Code: > 302 Found > 4. Request Headersview source > 1. Accept: > */* > 2. Accept-Encoding: > gzip,deflate,sdch > 3. Accept-Language: > en-US,en;q=0.8 > 4. Connection: > keep-alive > 5. Content-Length: > 595710 > 6. Content-Type: > multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 > 7. Cookie: > PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > 8. Host: > uol-bioset.com > 9. Origin: > http://uol-bioset.com > 10. Referer: > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 > 11. User-Agent: > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 > 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded > 1. path: > USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ > 2. BROWSER: > safari > 3. AUTH: > xerte > 4. PHPSESSID: > 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 > 6. Request Payload > 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- > 7. Response Headersview source > 1. Connection: > Keep-Alive > 2. Content-Length: > 197 > 3. Content-Type: > text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > 4. Date: > Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT > 5. Keep-Alive: > timeout=5, max=100 > 6. Location: > /mod_sec.html > 7. Server: > Apache > > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > And so the plot thickens? > > On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: > > > > Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: > > > > So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset > url that received the 302 code, > ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AU > TH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed > > Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is > being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? > > Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I have full access as user and admin? > > Not to the filesystem? > > But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: > > file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); > > and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the > parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed > /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but > that doesn?t appear to be the case either? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? > > > - > > From: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 > To: > xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk uk> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media > > Hi, > > Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with it > though? > > So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter > to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING > is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s being > called? > > If you go here > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John > then it writes to parameters.txt at > http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt > > Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: > > array ( > 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', > 'BROWSER' => 'safari', > 'AUTH' => 'xerte', > 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', > ) > > However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). > > upload.php?path= > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6 > 219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,1 > 5691,en.html > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: Forum XCW [mailto:forum at xerte.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:38 PM To: Smith, John Subject: [Forum XCW] can't get new install to run (Installation) A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW Message Subject : can't get new install to run Category : Installation Posted by : Rolaine Stoddard URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=2&id=84&mesid=390&Itemid=759&lang=en Message : ----- "Did you know that you can drop the whole xerte folder inside Moodle and use Moodle authentication instead of either guest, static or db?" would you mind pointing me to a link with instructions for how to do this? Thanks ----- You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jul 17 15:51:45 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:51:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: References: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> <01a201ce82cc$a37f20c0$ea7d6240$@co.uk> <9B9270B5-BD4C-4F05-8BD9-AF80A455DEE1@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Or move file upload out of flash. So have a file upload option outside the editor and have the editor upload replaced by a drop down list of the content of the media folder? On 17 Jul 2013, at 14:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > We should develop an HTML5 based editor... wait... what... oh yeah... > > Mental note - less time on forum, more time writing code!! > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial hosts > > Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > >> Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. >> >> If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting >> then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have >> to go in the same place as upload.php >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... >> >> Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? >> >> >> >> SecFilterEngine Off >> SecFilterScanPOST Off >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... >> >> Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... >> >> We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> >> Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? >> >> I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for not being more on this >> >> Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. >> >> XML is just a string >> >> I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. >> >> If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request >> >> See if they behave differently? >> >> On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: >> >> I need more than a pint!! >> >> I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota >> tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner >> and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through >> /mod_sec.html >> >> >> Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) >> >> POST >> POST / HTTP/1.0 >> Host: uol-bioset.com >> Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip >> Accept: */* >> Referer: http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ >> >> HTTP/1.1 302 Found >> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT >> Server: Apache >> Location: /mod_sec.html >> Content-Length: 197 >> Connection: close >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a redirection >> URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html >> >> >> >> http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html >> >> 1. Request URL: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 2. Request Method: >> POST >> 3. Status Code: >> 302 Found >> 4. Request Headersview source >> 1. Accept: >> */* >> 2. Accept-Encoding: >> gzip,deflate,sdch >> 3. Accept-Language: >> en-US,en;q=0.8 >> 4. Connection: >> keep-alive >> 5. Content-Length: >> 595710 >> 6. Content-Type: >> multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 >> 7. Cookie: >> PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 8. Host: >> uol-bioset.com >> 9. Origin: >> http://uol-bioset.com >> 10. Referer: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 >> 11. User-Agent: >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 >> 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded >> 1. path: >> USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ >> 2. BROWSER: >> safari >> 3. AUTH: >> xerte >> 4. PHPSESSID: >> 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 >> 6. Request Payload >> 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- >> 7. Response Headersview source >> 1. Connection: >> Keep-Alive >> 2. Content-Length: >> 197 >> 3. Content-Type: >> text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> 4. Date: >> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT >> 5. Keep-Alive: >> timeout=5, max=100 >> 6. Location: >> /mod_sec.html >> 7. Server: >> Apache >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And so the plot thickens? >> >> On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: >> >> >> >> Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: >> >> >> >> So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset >> url that received the 302 code, >> ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AU >> TH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed >> >> Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is >> being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? >> >> Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> I have full access as user and admin? >> >> Not to the filesystem? >> >> But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: >> >> file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); >> >> and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the >> parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed >> /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called but >> that doesn?t appear to be the case either? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. 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We know we want to do that. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 17 July 2013 15:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Or move file upload out of flash. So have a file upload option outside the editor and have the editor upload replaced by a drop down list of the content of the media folder? On 17 Jul 2013, at 14:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > We should develop an HTML5 based editor... wait... what... oh yeah... > > Mental note - less time on forum, more time writing code!! > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ > Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial > hosts > > Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > >> Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. >> >> If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting >> then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have >> to go in the same place as upload.php >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... >> >> Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? >> >> >> >> SecFilterEngine Off >> SecFilterScanPOST Off >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... >> >> Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... >> >> We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> >> Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? >> >> I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for not being more on this >> >> Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. >> >> XML is just a string >> >> I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. >> >> If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request >> >> See if they behave differently? >> >> On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: >> >> I need more than a pint!! >> >> I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota >> tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner >> and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through >> /mod_sec.html >> >> >> Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) >> >> POST >> POST / HTTP/1.0 >> Host: uol-bioset.com >> Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip >> Accept: */* >> Referer: >> http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ >> >> HTTP/1.1 302 Found >> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT >> Server: Apache >> Location: /mod_sec.html >> Content-Length: 197 >> Connection: close >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a >> redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html >> >> >> >> http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html >> >> 1. Request URL: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 2. Request Method: >> POST >> 3. Status Code: >> 302 Found >> 4. Request Headersview source >> 1. Accept: >> */* >> 2. Accept-Encoding: >> gzip,deflate,sdch >> 3. Accept-Language: >> en-US,en;q=0.8 >> 4. Connection: >> keep-alive >> 5. Content-Length: >> 595710 >> 6. Content-Type: >> multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 >> 7. Cookie: >> PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 8. Host: >> uol-bioset.com >> 9. Origin: >> http://uol-bioset.com >> 10. Referer: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 >> 11. User-Agent: >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 >> 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded >> 1. path: >> USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ >> 2. BROWSER: >> safari >> 3. AUTH: >> xerte >> 4. PHPSESSID: >> 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 >> 6. Request Payload >> 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- >> 7. Response Headersview source >> 1. Connection: >> Keep-Alive >> 2. Content-Length: >> 197 >> 3. Content-Type: >> text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> 4. Date: >> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT >> 5. Keep-Alive: >> timeout=5, max=100 >> 6. Location: >> /mod_sec.html >> 7. Server: >> Apache >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And so the plot thickens? >> >> On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: >> >> >> >> Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: >> >> >> >> So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset >> url that received the 302 code, >> ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&A >> U >> TH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed >> >> Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is >> being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? >> >> Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> I have full access as user and admin? >> >> Not to the filesystem? >> >> But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: >> >> file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); >> >> and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the >> parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed >> /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called >> but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? >> >> >> - >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 >> To: >> xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> uk> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media >> >> Hi, >> >> Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with >> it though? >> >> So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter >> to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING >> is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s >> being called? >> >> If you go here >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John >> then it writes to parameters.txt at >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt >> >> Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: >> >> array ( >> 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', >> 'BROWSER' => 'safari', >> 'AUTH' => 'xerte', >> 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', >> ) >> >> However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). >> >> upload.php?path= >> >> Anyone have any ideas? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, >> number >> SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, >> 6 >> 219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, >> 1 >> 5691,en.html >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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A popup that allows you to upload media and also, possibly offload to and select from additional servers... with all the expected bells and whistles these days - drag drop, multiple uploads etc We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:52 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Or move file upload out of flash. So have a file upload option outside the editor and have the editor upload replaced by a drop down list of the content of the media folder? On 17 Jul 2013, at 14:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > We should develop an HTML5 based editor... wait... what... oh yeah... > > Mental note - less time on forum, more time writing code!! > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ > Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial > hosts > > Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > >> Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. >> >> If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting >> then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have >> to go in the same place as upload.php >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... >> >> Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? >> >> >> >> SecFilterEngine Off >> SecFilterScanPOST Off >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... >> >> Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... >> >> We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> >> Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? >> >> I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for not being more on this >> >> Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. >> >> XML is just a string >> >> I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. >> >> If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request >> >> See if they behave differently? >> >> On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: >> >> I need more than a pint!! >> >> I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota >> tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner >> and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through >> /mod_sec.html >> >> >> Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) >> >> POST >> POST / HTTP/1.0 >> Host: uol-bioset.com >> Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip >> Accept: */* >> Referer: >> http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ >> >> HTTP/1.1 302 Found >> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT >> Server: Apache >> Location: /mod_sec.html >> Content-Length: 197 >> Connection: close >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a >> redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html >> >> >> >> http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html >> >> 1. Request URL: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 2. Request Method: >> POST >> 3. Status Code: >> 302 Found >> 4. Request Headersview source >> 1. Accept: >> */* >> 2. Accept-Encoding: >> gzip,deflate,sdch >> 3. Accept-Language: >> en-US,en;q=0.8 >> 4. Connection: >> keep-alive >> 5. Content-Length: >> 595710 >> 6. Content-Type: >> multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 >> 7. Cookie: >> PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 8. Host: >> uol-bioset.com >> 9. Origin: >> http://uol-bioset.com >> 10. Referer: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 >> 11. User-Agent: >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 >> 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded >> 1. path: >> USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ >> 2. BROWSER: >> safari >> 3. AUTH: >> xerte >> 4. PHPSESSID: >> 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 >> 6. Request Payload >> 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- >> 7. Response Headersview source >> 1. Connection: >> Keep-Alive >> 2. Content-Length: >> 197 >> 3. Content-Type: >> text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> 4. Date: >> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT >> 5. Keep-Alive: >> timeout=5, max=100 >> 6. Location: >> /mod_sec.html >> 7. Server: >> Apache >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And so the plot thickens? >> >> On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: >> >> >> >> Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: >> >> >> >> So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset >> url that received the 302 code, >> ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&A >> U >> TH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed >> >> Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is >> being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? >> >> Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> I have full access as user and admin? >> >> Not to the filesystem? >> >> But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: >> >> file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); >> >> and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the >> parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed >> /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called >> but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? >> >> >> - >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 >> To: >> xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> uk> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media >> >> Hi, >> >> Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with >> it though? >> >> So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter >> to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING >> is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s >> being called? >> >> If you go here >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John >> then it writes to parameters.txt at >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt >> >> Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: >> >> array ( >> 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', >> 'BROWSER' => 'safari', >> 'AUTH' => 'xerte', >> 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', >> ) >> >> However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). >> >> upload.php?path= >> >> Anyone have any ideas? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, >> number >> SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, >> 6 >> 219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, >> 1 >> 5691,en.html >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Likewise we are about to start using Kaltura and would prefer users to put their videos there. You can put urls to other servers in the wizard at the moment though, as long as you remember to wrap the URL in single quotes, so it wouldn't be hard to build something that would allow users to select media from elsewhere, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I'm thinking of having something similar for the new editor... A popup that allows you to upload media and also, possibly offload to and select from additional servers... with all the expected bells and whistles these days - drag drop, multiple uploads etc We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:52 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Or move file upload out of flash. So have a file upload option outside the editor and have the editor upload replaced by a drop down list of the content of the media folder? On 17 Jul 2013, at 14:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > We should develop an HTML5 based editor... wait... what... oh yeah... > > Mental note - less time on forum, more time writing code!! > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ > Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial > hosts > > Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > >> Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. >> >> If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting >> then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have >> to go in the same place as upload.php >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... >> >> Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? >> >> >> >> SecFilterEngine Off >> SecFilterScanPOST Off >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... >> >> Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... >> >> We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> >> Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? >> >> I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for not being more on this >> >> Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. >> >> XML is just a string >> >> I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. >> >> If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request >> >> See if they behave differently? >> >> On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: >> >> I need more than a pint!! >> >> I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota >> tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner >> and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through >> /mod_sec.html >> >> >> Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) >> >> POST >> POST / HTTP/1.0 >> Host: uol-bioset.com >> Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip >> Accept: */* >> Referer: >> http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ >> >> HTTP/1.1 302 Found >> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT >> Server: Apache >> Location: /mod_sec.html >> Content-Length: 197 >> Connection: close >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a >> redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html >> >> >> >> http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html >> >> 1. Request URL: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 2. Request Method: >> POST >> 3. Status Code: >> 302 Found >> 4. Request Headersview source >> 1. Accept: >> */* >> 2. Accept-Encoding: >> gzip,deflate,sdch >> 3. Accept-Language: >> en-US,en;q=0.8 >> 4. Connection: >> keep-alive >> 5. Content-Length: >> 595710 >> 6. Content-Type: >> multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 >> 7. Cookie: >> PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 8. Host: >> uol-bioset.com >> 9. Origin: >> http://uol-bioset.com >> 10. Referer: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 >> 11. User-Agent: >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 >> 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded >> 1. path: >> USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ >> 2. BROWSER: >> safari >> 3. AUTH: >> xerte >> 4. PHPSESSID: >> 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 >> 6. Request Payload >> 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- >> 7. Response Headersview source >> 1. Connection: >> Keep-Alive >> 2. Content-Length: >> 197 >> 3. Content-Type: >> text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> 4. Date: >> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT >> 5. Keep-Alive: >> timeout=5, max=100 >> 6. Location: >> /mod_sec.html >> 7. Server: >> Apache >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And so the plot thickens? >> >> On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: >> >> >> >> Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: >> >> >> >> So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset >> url that received the 302 code, >> ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&A >> U >> TH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed >> >> Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is >> being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? >> >> Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> I have full access as user and admin? >> >> Not to the filesystem? >> >> But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: >> >> file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); >> >> and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the >> parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed >> /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called >> but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? >> >> >> - >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 >> To: >> xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> uk> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media >> >> Hi, >> >> Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with >> it though? >> >> So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter >> to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING >> is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s >> being called? >> >> If you go here >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John >> then it writes to parameters.txt at >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt >> >> Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: >> >> array ( >> 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', >> 'BROWSER' => 'safari', >> 'AUTH' => 'xerte', >> 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', >> ) >> >> However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). >> >> upload.php?path= >> >> Anyone have any ideas? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, >> number >> SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, >> 6 >> 219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, >> 1 >> 5691,en.html >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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In-Reply-To: References: <01ac01ce82cf$4b00ae20$e1020a60$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE25C0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3A3FEE84-56EC-4E91-A131-432B20811FFF@pgogywebstuff.com> I'm confused with database.txt as Tom said a while back we don't use it anymore? There are tests for people to run before they install, if you pass these then it'll install. We could make it say Drupal lean, strip loads out of it, but then people will spend an age in management getting stuff set up On 17 Jul 2013, at 11:15, "Smith, John" wrote: > Don?t get me wrong, I?m not overly concerned? ;-) > > I?ve always thought about the installer, do we really need to tell people when things are ok? Or what table creation or insert query succeeded? I?d just be tempted to make it very lean, and only tell them when things went wrong? but is there anything extra that we can check? > > Plus why does database.txt sometimes get copied to database.php but with empty fields? I?m not getting that one? Surely if we can read it in and then write it out, we must be doing something wrong in the middle? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:05 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? > > > Bit concerned though about the number of install problems ? perhaps we need to revisit the installer to make sure it is catching some other stuff? > > It?s the one thing that really needs to work well, and be simple. We get a lot of feedback along the lines of ?written for geeks? re: the install guide (which, to be fair, it was, and if you can?t get on with it, should you be installing the software anyway? Many people get on just fine, and we don?t know what percentage of attempted installs are troublesome, or abandoned). I am around today, though installation isn?t my strong suit. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 17 July 2013 10:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? > > I know Ron, it?s not ideal. Thanks anyway, I?ll be able to keep an eye on it for some of today and hopefully Julian is around also? > > Bit concerned though about the number of install problems ? perhaps we need to revisit the installer to make sure it is catching some other stuff? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:23 AM > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? > > I've replied to a couple of those but until we can email replies the community forums don't work for me. On the road shortly and logging in to reply via mobile just isn't practical. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 17 July 2013 10:00 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? > > > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 15:58:57 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:58:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: References: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> <01a201ce82cc$a37f20c0$ea7d6240$@co.uk> <9B9270B5-BD4C-4F05-8BD9-AF80A455DEE1@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: I've got 2 weeks wife and kiddie free at end July and I'm planning to hit this hard in evenings... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:55 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I'm thinking of having something similar for the new editor... A popup that allows you to upload media and also, possibly offload to and select from additional servers... with all the expected bells and whistles these days - drag drop, multiple uploads etc We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:52 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Or move file upload out of flash. So have a file upload option outside the editor and have the editor upload replaced by a drop down list of the content of the media folder? On 17 Jul 2013, at 14:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > We should develop an HTML5 based editor... wait... what... oh yeah... > > Mental note - less time on forum, more time writing code!! > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ > Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial > hosts > > Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > >> Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. >> >> If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting >> then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have >> to go in the same place as upload.php >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... >> >> Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? >> >> >> >> SecFilterEngine Off >> SecFilterScanPOST Off >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... >> >> Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... >> >> We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> >> Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? >> >> I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for not being more on this >> >> Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. >> >> XML is just a string >> >> I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. >> >> If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request >> >> See if they behave differently? >> >> On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: >> >> I need more than a pint!! >> >> I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota >> tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner >> and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through >> /mod_sec.html >> >> >> Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) >> >> POST >> POST / HTTP/1.0 >> Host: uol-bioset.com >> Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip >> Accept: */* >> Referer: >> http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ >> >> HTTP/1.1 302 Found >> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT >> Server: Apache >> Location: /mod_sec.html >> Content-Length: 197 >> Connection: close >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a >> redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html >> >> >> >> http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html >> >> 1. Request URL: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 2. Request Method: >> POST >> 3. Status Code: >> 302 Found >> 4. Request Headersview source >> 1. Accept: >> */* >> 2. Accept-Encoding: >> gzip,deflate,sdch >> 3. Accept-Language: >> en-US,en;q=0.8 >> 4. Connection: >> keep-alive >> 5. Content-Length: >> 595710 >> 6. Content-Type: >> multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 >> 7. Cookie: >> PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 8. Host: >> uol-bioset.com >> 9. Origin: >> http://uol-bioset.com >> 10. Referer: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 >> 11. User-Agent: >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 >> 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded >> 1. path: >> USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ >> 2. BROWSER: >> safari >> 3. AUTH: >> xerte >> 4. PHPSESSID: >> 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 >> 6. Request Payload >> 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- >> 7. Response Headersview source >> 1. Connection: >> Keep-Alive >> 2. Content-Length: >> 197 >> 3. Content-Type: >> text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> 4. Date: >> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT >> 5. Keep-Alive: >> timeout=5, max=100 >> 6. Location: >> /mod_sec.html >> 7. Server: >> Apache >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And so the plot thickens? >> >> On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: >> >> >> >> Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: >> >> >> >> So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset >> url that received the 302 code, >> ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&A >> U >> TH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed >> >> Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is >> being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? >> >> Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> I have full access as user and admin? >> >> Not to the filesystem? >> >> But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: >> >> file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); >> >> and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the >> parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed >> /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called >> but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. 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http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 16:00:44 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:00:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? In-Reply-To: <3A3FEE84-56EC-4E91-A131-432B20811FFF@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <01ac01ce82cf$4b00ae20$e1020a60$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE25C0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3A3FEE84-56EC-4E91-A131-432B20811FFF@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Database.txt has placeholders ? I always assumed it was read ? replaced ? written to root? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:58 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? I'm confused with database.txt as Tom said a while back we don't use it anymore? There are tests for people to run before they install, if you pass these then it'll install. We could make it say Drupal lean, strip loads out of it, but then people will spend an age in management getting stuff set up On 17 Jul 2013, at 11:15, "Smith, John" > wrote: Don?t get me wrong, I?m not overly concerned? ;-) I?ve always thought about the installer, do we really need to tell people when things are ok? Or what table creation or insert query succeeded? I?d just be tempted to make it very lean, and only tell them when things went wrong? but is there anything extra that we can check? Plus why does database.txt sometimes get copied to database.php but with empty fields? I?m not getting that one? Surely if we can read it in and then write it out, we must be doing something wrong in the middle? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:05 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? > Bit concerned though about the number of install problems ? perhaps we need to revisit the installer to make sure it is catching some other stuff? It?s the one thing that really needs to work well, and be simple. We get a lot of feedback along the lines of ?written for geeks? re: the install guide (which, to be fair, it was, and if you can?t get on with it, should you be installing the software anyway? Many people get on just fine, and we don?t know what percentage of attempted installs are troublesome, or abandoned). I am around today, though installation isn?t my strong suit. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? I know Ron, it?s not ideal. Thanks anyway, I?ll be able to keep an eye on it for some of today and hopefully Julian is around also? Bit concerned though about the number of install problems ? perhaps we need to revisit the installer to make sure it is catching some other stuff? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:23 AM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? I've replied to a couple of those but until we can email replies the community forums don't work for me. On the road shortly and logging in to reply via mobile just isn't practical. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 10:00 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 16:04:22 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:04:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE289D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> <01a201ce82cc$a37f20c0$ea7d6240$@co.uk> <9B9270B5-BD4C-4F05-8BD9-AF80A455DEE1@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE289D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hmm, didn't know about the single quotes thing.. although would make sense since these fields are pretty much all eval-ed... Single quotes would still baffle my lot... ;-) let alone copy and pasting urls... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:59 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... Likewise we are about to start using Kaltura and would prefer users to put their videos there. You can put urls to other servers in the wizard at the moment though, as long as you remember to wrap the URL in single quotes, so it wouldn't be hard to build something that would allow users to select media from elsewhere, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I'm thinking of having something similar for the new editor... A popup that allows you to upload media and also, possibly offload to and select from additional servers... with all the expected bells and whistles these days - drag drop, multiple uploads etc We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:52 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Or move file upload out of flash. So have a file upload option outside the editor and have the editor upload replaced by a drop down list of the content of the media folder? On 17 Jul 2013, at 14:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > We should develop an HTML5 based editor... wait... what... oh yeah... > > Mental note - less time on forum, more time writing code!! > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ > Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial > hosts > > Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > >> Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. >> >> If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting >> then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have >> to go in the same place as upload.php >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... >> >> Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? >> >> >> >> SecFilterEngine Off >> SecFilterScanPOST Off >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... >> >> Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... >> >> We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> >> Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? >> >> I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for not being more on this >> >> Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. >> >> XML is just a string >> >> I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. >> >> If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request >> >> See if they behave differently? >> >> On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: >> >> I need more than a pint!! >> >> I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota >> tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner >> and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through >> /mod_sec.html >> >> >> Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) >> >> POST >> POST / HTTP/1.0 >> Host: uol-bioset.com >> Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip >> Accept: */* >> Referer: >> http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ >> >> HTTP/1.1 302 Found >> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT >> Server: Apache >> Location: /mod_sec.html >> Content-Length: 197 >> Connection: close >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a >> redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html >> >> >> >> http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html >> >> 1. Request URL: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 2. Request Method: >> POST >> 3. Status Code: >> 302 Found >> 4. Request Headersview source >> 1. Accept: >> */* >> 2. Accept-Encoding: >> gzip,deflate,sdch >> 3. Accept-Language: >> en-US,en;q=0.8 >> 4. Connection: >> keep-alive >> 5. Content-Length: >> 595710 >> 6. Content-Type: >> multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 >> 7. Cookie: >> PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 8. Host: >> uol-bioset.com >> 9. Origin: >> http://uol-bioset.com >> 10. Referer: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 >> 11. User-Agent: >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 >> 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded >> 1. path: >> USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ >> 2. BROWSER: >> safari >> 3. AUTH: >> xerte >> 4. PHPSESSID: >> 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 >> 6. Request Payload >> 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- >> 7. Response Headersview source >> 1. Connection: >> Keep-Alive >> 2. Content-Length: >> 197 >> 3. Content-Type: >> text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> 4. Date: >> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT >> 5. Keep-Alive: >> timeout=5, max=100 >> 6. Location: >> /mod_sec.html >> 7. Server: >> Apache >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And so the plot thickens? >> >> On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: >> >> >> >> Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: >> >> >> >> So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset >> url that received the 302 code, >> ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&A >> U >> TH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed >> >> Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is >> being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? >> >> Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> I have full access as user and admin? >> >> Not to the filesystem? >> >> But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: >> >> file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); >> >> and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the >> parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed >> /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called >> but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. 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Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 16:06:44 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:06:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: References: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> <01a201ce82cc$a37f20c0$ea7d6240$@co.uk> <9B9270B5-BD4C-4F05-8BD9-AF80A455DEE1@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE289D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE28AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Or put some code in that says if url.substr(0,4)= = 'http' then don't eval it. That might in fact even be in the engine, it's certainly occurred to me before... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 16:04 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Hmm, didn't know about the single quotes thing.. although would make sense since these fields are pretty much all eval-ed... Single quotes would still baffle my lot... ;-) let alone copy and pasting urls... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:59 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... Likewise we are about to start using Kaltura and would prefer users to put their videos there. You can put urls to other servers in the wizard at the moment though, as long as you remember to wrap the URL in single quotes, so it wouldn't be hard to build something that would allow users to select media from elsewhere, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I'm thinking of having something similar for the new editor... A popup that allows you to upload media and also, possibly offload to and select from additional servers... with all the expected bells and whistles these days - drag drop, multiple uploads etc We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:52 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Or move file upload out of flash. So have a file upload option outside the editor and have the editor upload replaced by a drop down list of the content of the media folder? On 17 Jul 2013, at 14:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > We should develop an HTML5 based editor... wait... what... oh yeah... > > Mental note - less time on forum, more time writing code!! > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ > Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial > hosts > > Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > >> Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. >> >> If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting >> then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have >> to go in the same place as upload.php >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... >> >> Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? >> >> >> >> SecFilterEngine Off >> SecFilterScanPOST Off >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... >> >> Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... >> >> We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> >> Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? >> >> I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for not being more on this >> >> Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. >> >> XML is just a string >> >> I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. >> >> If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request >> >> See if they behave differently? >> >> On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: >> >> I need more than a pint!! >> >> I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota >> tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner >> and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through >> /mod_sec.html >> >> >> Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) >> >> POST >> POST / HTTP/1.0 >> Host: uol-bioset.com >> Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip >> Accept: */* >> Referer: >> http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ >> >> HTTP/1.1 302 Found >> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT >> Server: Apache >> Location: /mod_sec.html >> Content-Length: 197 >> Connection: close >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a >> redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html >> >> >> >> http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html >> >> 1. Request URL: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 2. Request Method: >> POST >> 3. Status Code: >> 302 Found >> 4. Request Headersview source >> 1. Accept: >> */* >> 2. Accept-Encoding: >> gzip,deflate,sdch >> 3. Accept-Language: >> en-US,en;q=0.8 >> 4. Connection: >> keep-alive >> 5. Content-Length: >> 595710 >> 6. Content-Type: >> multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 >> 7. Cookie: >> PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 8. Host: >> uol-bioset.com >> 9. Origin: >> http://uol-bioset.com >> 10. Referer: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 >> 11. User-Agent: >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 >> 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded >> 1. path: >> USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ >> 2. BROWSER: >> safari >> 3. AUTH: >> xerte >> 4. PHPSESSID: >> 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 >> 6. Request Payload >> 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- >> 7. Response Headersview source >> 1. Connection: >> Keep-Alive >> 2. Content-Length: >> 197 >> 3. Content-Type: >> text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> 4. Date: >> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT >> 5. Keep-Alive: >> timeout=5, max=100 >> 6. Location: >> /mod_sec.html >> 7. Server: >> Apache >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And so the plot thickens? >> >> On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: >> >> >> >> Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: >> >> >> >> So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset >> url that received the 302 code, >> ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&A >> U >> TH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed >> >> Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is >> being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? >> >> Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> I have full access as user and admin? >> >> Not to the filesystem? >> >> But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: >> >> file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); >> >> and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the >> parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed >> /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called >> but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? >> >> >> - >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 >> To: >> xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> uk> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media >> >> Hi, >> >> Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with >> it though? >> >> So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter >> to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING >> is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s >> being called? >> >> If you go here >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John >> then it writes to parameters.txt at >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt >> >> Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: >> >> array ( >> 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', >> 'BROWSER' => 'safari', >> 'AUTH' => 'xerte', >> 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', >> ) >> >> However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). >> >> upload.php?path= >> >> Anyone have any ideas? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, >> number >> SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, >> 6 >> 219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, >> 1 >> 5691,en.html >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 16:07:53 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:07:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: References: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> <01a201ce82cc$a37f20c0$ea7d6240$@co.uk> <9B9270B5-BD4C-4F05-8BD9-AF80A455DEE1@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE28B2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I can see the pizza boxes and empty coke cans now... ;-) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 15:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I've got 2 weeks wife and kiddie free at end July and I'm planning to hit this hard in evenings... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:55 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I'm thinking of having something similar for the new editor... A popup that allows you to upload media and also, possibly offload to and select from additional servers... with all the expected bells and whistles these days - drag drop, multiple uploads etc We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:52 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Or move file upload out of flash. So have a file upload option outside the editor and have the editor upload replaced by a drop down list of the content of the media folder? On 17 Jul 2013, at 14:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > We should develop an HTML5 based editor... wait... what... oh yeah... > > Mental note - less time on forum, more time writing code!! > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ > Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial > hosts > > Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > >> Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. >> >> If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting >> then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have >> to go in the same place as upload.php >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... >> >> Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? >> >> >> >> SecFilterEngine Off >> SecFilterScanPOST Off >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... >> >> Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... >> >> We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> >> Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? >> >> I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for not being more on this >> >> Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. >> >> XML is just a string >> >> I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. >> >> If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request >> >> See if they behave differently? >> >> On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: >> >> I need more than a pint!! >> >> I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota >> tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner >> and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through >> /mod_sec.html >> >> >> Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) >> >> POST >> POST / HTTP/1.0 >> Host: uol-bioset.com >> Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip >> Accept: */* >> Referer: >> http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ >> >> HTTP/1.1 302 Found >> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT >> Server: Apache >> Location: /mod_sec.html >> Content-Length: 197 >> Connection: close >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a >> redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html >> >> >> >> http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html >> >> 1. Request URL: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 2. Request Method: >> POST >> 3. Status Code: >> 302 Found >> 4. Request Headersview source >> 1. Accept: >> */* >> 2. Accept-Encoding: >> gzip,deflate,sdch >> 3. Accept-Language: >> en-US,en;q=0.8 >> 4. Connection: >> keep-alive >> 5. Content-Length: >> 595710 >> 6. Content-Type: >> multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 >> 7. Cookie: >> PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 8. Host: >> uol-bioset.com >> 9. Origin: >> http://uol-bioset.com >> 10. Referer: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 >> 11. User-Agent: >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 >> 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded >> 1. path: >> USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ >> 2. BROWSER: >> safari >> 3. AUTH: >> xerte >> 4. PHPSESSID: >> 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 >> 6. Request Payload >> 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- >> 7. Response Headersview source >> 1. Connection: >> Keep-Alive >> 2. Content-Length: >> 197 >> 3. Content-Type: >> text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> 4. Date: >> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT >> 5. Keep-Alive: >> timeout=5, max=100 >> 6. Location: >> /mod_sec.html >> 7. Server: >> Apache >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And so the plot thickens? >> >> On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: >> >> >> >> Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: >> >> >> >> So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset >> url that received the 302 code, >> ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&A >> U >> TH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed >> >> Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is >> being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? >> >> Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> I have full access as user and admin? >> >> Not to the filesystem? >> >> But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: >> >> file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); >> >> and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the >> parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed >> /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called >> but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. 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http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 16:12:33 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:12:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE28AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <8l3ap3x9fy16aj32h8tswqhc.1374050324573@email.android.com> <01a201ce82cc$a37f20c0$ea7d6240$@co.uk> <9B9270B5-BD4C-4F05-8BD9-AF80A455DEE1@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE289D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE28AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yeah... I remember once thinking of committing something along those lines... and then I forgot... have been a bit commit happy recently... trying to clear a list of bugsfeatures, enhancements, etc that I?l been staring at for a while? Need to revisit the API and the new editor? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:07 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Or put some code in that says if url.substr(0,4)= = 'http' then don't eval it. That might in fact even be in the engine, it's certainly occurred to me before... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 16:04 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Hmm, didn't know about the single quotes thing.. although would make sense since these fields are pretty much all eval-ed... Single quotes would still baffle my lot... ;-) let alone copy and pasting urls... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:59 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... Likewise we are about to start using Kaltura and would prefer users to put their videos there. You can put urls to other servers in the wizard at the moment though, as long as you remember to wrap the URL in single quotes, so it wouldn't be hard to build something that would allow users to select media from elsewhere, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media I'm thinking of having something similar for the new editor... A popup that allows you to upload media and also, possibly offload to and select from additional servers... with all the expected bells and whistles these days - drag drop, multiple uploads etc We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:52 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media Or move file upload out of flash. So have a file upload option outside the editor and have the editor upload replaced by a drop down list of the content of the media folder? On 17 Jul 2013, at 14:21, "Smith, John" > wrote: > We should develop an HTML5 based editor... wait... what... oh yeah... > > Mental note - less time on forum, more time writing code!! > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ > Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial > hosts > > Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" > wrote: > >> Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. >> >> If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting >> then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have >> to go in the same place as upload.php >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... >> >> Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? >> >> >> >> SecFilterEngine Off >> SecFilterScanPOST Off >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... >> >> Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... >> >> We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> >> >> Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, >> John >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? >> >> I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> >> >> >> "Pat @ Pgogy" > wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for not being more on this >> >> Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. >> >> XML is just a string >> >> I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. >> >> If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request >> >> See if they behave differently? >> >> On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" >> wrote: >> >> I need more than a pint!! >> >> I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota >> tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner >> and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through >> /mod_sec.html >> >> >> Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) >> >> POST >> POST / HTTP/1.0 >> Host: uol-bioset.com >> Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip >> Accept: */* >> Referer: >> http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ >> >> HTTP/1.1 302 Found >> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT >> Server: Apache >> Location: /mod_sec.html >> Content-Length: 197 >> Connection: close >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a >> redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html >> >> >> >> http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html >> >> 1. Request URL: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 2. Request Method: >> POST >> 3. Status Code: >> 302 Found >> 4. Request Headersview source >> 1. Accept: >> */* >> 2. Accept-Encoding: >> gzip,deflate,sdch >> 3. Accept-Language: >> en-US,en;q=0.8 >> 4. Connection: >> keep-alive >> 5. Content-Length: >> 595710 >> 6. Content-Type: >> multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 >> 7. Cookie: >> PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u >> 8. Host: >> uol-bioset.com >> 9. Origin: >> http://uol-bioset.com >> 10. Referer: >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 >> 11. User-Agent: >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 >> 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded >> 1. path: >> USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ >> 2. BROWSER: >> safari >> 3. AUTH: >> xerte >> 4. PHPSESSID: >> 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 >> 6. Request Payload >> 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- >> 7. Response Headersview source >> 1. Connection: >> Keep-Alive >> 2. Content-Length: >> 197 >> 3. Content-Type: >> text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> 4. Date: >> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT >> 5. Keep-Alive: >> timeout=5, max=100 >> 6. Location: >> /mod_sec.html >> 7. Server: >> Apache >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> And so the plot thickens? >> >> On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: >> >> >> >> Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: >> >> >> >> So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset >> url that received the 302 code, >> ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&A >> U >> TH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed >> >> Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is >> being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? >> >> Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> I have full access as user and admin? >> >> Not to the filesystem? >> >> But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: >> >> file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); >> >> and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the >> parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed >> /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called >> but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health & Life Sciences >> Glasgow Caledonian University >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. >> >> From: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media >> >> No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Jul 17 17:25:28 2013 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:25:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Installation of XOT into Moodle instructions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006f01ce830a$41534190$c3f9c4b0$@co.uk> \documentation\moodle_integration_readme.txt -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 14:43 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Installation of XOT into Moodle instructions Hi, Would anyone happen to have any ready-made instructions for doing this, rather than me trying to recall from memory and cobble something together? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: Forum XCW [mailto:forum at xerte.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:38 PM To: Smith, John Subject: [Forum XCW] can't get new install to run (Installation) A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW Message Subject : can't get new install to run Category : Installation Posted by : Rolaine Stoddard URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=2&id=84&mesid=390&Itemid=759&lang=en Message : ----- "Did you know that you can drop the whole xerte folder inside Moodle and use Moodle authentication instead of either guest, static or db?" would you mind pointing me to a link with instructions for how to do this? Thanks ----- You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Jul 17 18:31:30 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:31:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Installation of XOT into Moodle instructions Message-ID: Thanks Ron. Really need to look through this stuff so i know where it is. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Ron Mitchell wrote: \documentation\moodle_integration_readme.txt -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 17 July 2013 14:43 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Installation of XOT into Moodle instructions Hi, Would anyone happen to have any ready-made instructions for doing this, rather than me trying to recall from memory and cobble something together? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: Forum XCW [mailto:forum at xerte.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:38 PM To: Smith, John Subject: [Forum XCW] can't get new install to run (Installation) A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW Message Subject : can't get new install to run Category : Installation Posted by : Rolaine Stoddard URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=2&id=84&mesid=390&Itemid=759&lang=en Message : ----- "Did you know that you can drop the whole xerte folder inside Moodle and use Moodle authentication instead of either guest, static or db?" would you mind pointing me to a link with instructions for how to do this? Thanks ----- You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jul 17 18:11:36 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:11:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? In-Reply-To: References: <01ac01ce82cf$4b00ae20$e1020a60$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE25C0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3A3FEE84-56EC-4E91-A131-432B20811FFF@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <390B755E-56D3-496A-9336-B20A481C451C@pgogywebstuff.com> Check page 2 and 3 of the installer code? On 17 Jul 2013, at 16:00, "Smith, John" wrote: > Database.txt has placeholders ? I always assumed it was read ? replaced ? written to root? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:58 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? > > I'm confused with database.txt as Tom said a while back we don't use it anymore? > > There are tests for people to run before they install, if you pass these then it'll install. > > We could make it say Drupal lean, strip loads out of it, but then people will spend an age in management getting stuff set up > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 11:15, "Smith, John" wrote: > > Don?t get me wrong, I?m not overly concerned? ;-) > > I?ve always thought about the installer, do we really need to tell people when things are ok? Or what table creation or insert query succeeded? I?d just be tempted to make it very lean, and only tell them when things went wrong? but is there anything extra that we can check? > > Plus why does database.txt sometimes get copied to database.php but with empty fields? I?m not getting that one? Surely if we can read it in and then write it out, we must be doing something wrong in the middle? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:05 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? > > > Bit concerned though about the number of install problems ? perhaps we need to revisit the installer to make sure it is catching some other stuff? > > It?s the one thing that really needs to work well, and be simple. We get a lot of feedback along the lines of ?written for geeks? re: the install guide (which, to be fair, it was, and if you can?t get on with it, should you be installing the software anyway? Many people get on just fine, and we don?t know what percentage of attempted installs are troublesome, or abandoned). I am around today, though installation isn?t my strong suit. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 17 July 2013 10:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? > > I know Ron, it?s not ideal. Thanks anyway, I?ll be able to keep an eye on it for some of today and hopefully Julian is around also? > > Bit concerned though about the number of install problems ? perhaps we need to revisit the installer to make sure it is catching some other stuff? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:23 AM > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Three installation problems in a row on Forum now... anyone able to take a look? > > I've replied to a couple of those but until we can email replies the community forums don't work for me. 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I remember once thinking of committing something along those lines... and then I forgot... have been a bit commit happy recently... trying to clear a list of bugsfeatures, enhancements, etc that I?l been staring at for a while? > > Need to revisit the API and the new editor? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:07 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Or put some code in that says if url.substr(0,4)= = 'http' then don't eval it. That might in fact even be in the engine, it's certainly occurred to me before... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 17 July 2013 16:04 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Hmm, didn't know about the single quotes thing.. although would make sense since these fields are pretty much all eval-ed... > > Single quotes would still baffle my lot... ;-) let alone copy and pasting urls... > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:59 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... > > Likewise we are about to start using Kaltura and would prefer users to put their videos there. You can put urls to other servers in the wizard at the moment though, as long as you remember to wrap the URL in single quotes, so it wouldn't be hard to build something that would allow users to select media from elsewhere, > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 17 July 2013 15:55 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > I'm thinking of having something similar for the new editor... > > A popup that allows you to upload media and also, possibly offload to and select from additional servers... with all the expected bells and whistles these days - drag drop, multiple uploads etc > > We have a streaming server at GCU that all our VLE audio/video goes to - I don't think our IT team will be too keen on people uploading huge videos to the xerte server... > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:52 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > Or move file upload out of flash. > > So have a file upload option outside the editor and have the editor upload replaced by a drop down list of the content of the media folder? > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 14:21, "Smith, John" wrote: > > > We should develop an HTML5 based editor... wait... what... oh yeah... > > > > Mental note - less time on forum, more time writing code!! > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ > > Pgogy > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18 PM > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > > > > I suspect overriding isn't an option for most people using commercial > > hosts > > > > Wondering what we can do to make the upload not a problem. Got to be flash uploaders that don't have this problem. > > > > On 17 Jul 2013, at 10:04, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > > >> Whenever I've hit issues with this I've had to edit the rules via a control panel or SSH. I don't know for sure but I would guess that at least with some hosting it may not be possible to override via .htaccess and depending on the plan may not be possible for the account holder to change either. > >> > >> If it is possible to override via .htaccess on the particular hosting > >> then I would guess it should work in the xerte root - shouldn't have > >> to go in the same place as upload.php > >> > >> HTH > >> Ron > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > >> John > >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:53 > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > >> > >> It seems that this in a .htaccess file could fix to turn filtering off for that file... thanks Ron your suggestion helped narrow it down! Seems to be a common problem with Flash uploaders in particular... > >> > >> Not really sure whether this needs to be in the same folder as the upload.php file or, if it goes in root or elsewhere, whether the path to upload.php needs added... Anyone? > >> > >> > >> > >> SecFilterEngine Off > >> SecFilterScanPOST Off > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> John Smith > >> Learning Technologist > >> School of Health & Life Sciences > >> Glasgow Caledonian University > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > >> John > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:39 AM > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > >> > >> Yes Ron you are spot on. Its with the guys server team to figure out what needs to go in to allow upload traffic to pass... At least we know how to spot it in future... > >> > >> Still curious as to why it allows media and quota to upload but blocks flash upload which is supposed to be using same multipart-formdata format. Flash uploader must be breaking something. Server log said something about a missing boundary... > >> > >> We could be doing with a wiki to record all this stuff though. > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> John Smith > >> Learning Technologist > >> School of Health and Life Sciences > >> > >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > >> > >> > >> > >> Ron Mitchell wrote: > >> > >> > >> Sorry I've not been contributing lately - still busy with all sort of other stuff but just skim reading this and may be wrong but is the reference to mod_sec related to the Apache mod_security module? I've hit promlems with that in the past (mostly Moodle) where you have to add exceptions to the mod_security rules to allow the requests being blocked. > >> > >> HTH > >> Ron > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, > >> John > >> Sent: 17 July 2013 09:05 > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > >> > >> Wizard -> Upload.php uses files array too, multipart-formdata so think that bit is ok... Its only the cookie passing that is different? No? > >> > >> I was wondering though if its the fact that we pickup the session token and pass it back to upload in the querystring that is being flagged. But I've seen many a site doing that... > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> John Smith > >> Learning Technologist > >> School of Health and Life Sciences > >> > >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > >> > >> > >> > >> "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > >> > >> > >> Sorry for not being more on this > >> > >> Media and quote uses the file array in php, which might explain this. > >> > >> XML is just a string > >> > >> I suspect different policies on both hence security firing off. > >> > >> If still an issue try print_r files,post,get and request > >> > >> See if they behave differently? > >> > >> On 16 Jul 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" > wrote: > >> > >> I need more than a pint!! > >> > >> I?m glad we?ve proved though that it?s not Xerte. Why Media & Quota > >> tab is able to do a post though is strange and XML to save.php > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> John Smith > >> Learning Technologist > >> School of Health & Life Sciences > >> Glasgow Caledonian University > >> > >> From: > >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:44 PM > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > >> > >> That?s great work there, thanks a lot. Hoist yourself a pint o? heavy on me. > >> > >> From: > >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > >> On Behalf Of Smith, John > >> Sent: 16 July 2013 14:55 > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > >> > >> And now I?ve run the bioset server through a request method scanner > >> and it reports the same? POST methods are being filtered through > >> /mod_sec.html > >> > >> > >> Filtered Request Methods (Not 200 OR 405) > >> > >> POST > >> POST / HTTP/1.0 > >> Host: uol-bioset.com > >> Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip > >> Accept: */* > >> Referer: > >> http://www.askapache.com/online-tools/request-method-scanner/ > >> > >> HTTP/1.1 302 Found > >> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:50:07 GMT > >> Server: Apache > >> Location: /mod_sec.html > >> Content-Length: 197 > >> Connection: close > >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> John Smith > >> Learning Technologist > >> School of Health & Life Sciences > >> Glasgow Caledonian University > >> > >> From: > >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > >> On Behalf Of Smith, John > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:47 PM > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > >> > >> Ah didn?t read as far as I should have? 302 also returns a > >> redirection URL, which in this case is /mod_sec.html > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/modsecurity-htaccess-tricks.html > >> > >> 1. Request URL: > >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&AUTH=xerte&PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > >> 2. Request Method: > >> POST > >> 3. Status Code: > >> 302 Found > >> 4. Request Headersview source > >> 1. Accept: > >> */* > >> 2. Accept-Encoding: > >> gzip,deflate,sdch > >> 3. Accept-Language: > >> en-US,en;q=0.8 > >> 4. Connection: > >> keep-alive > >> 5. Content-Length: > >> 595710 > >> 6. Content-Type: > >> multipart/form-data; boundary=----------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 > >> 7. Cookie: > >> PHPSESSID=9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff83204628g53u > >> 8. Host: > >> uol-bioset.com > >> 9. Origin: > >> http://uol-bioset.com > >> 10. Referer: > >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/edit.php?template_id=15 > >> 11. User-Agent: > >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36 > >> 5. Query String Parametersview sourceview URL encoded > >> 1. path: > >> USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/ > >> 2. BROWSER: > >> safari > >> 3. AUTH: > >> xerte > >> 4. PHPSESSID: > >> 9c0a954bc3d99c4eabff8324ba411514 > >> 6. Request Payload > >> 1. ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filename" Hydrangeas.jpg ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Filedata"; filename="Hydrangeas.jpg" Content-Type: application/octet-stream ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Upload" Submit Query ------------KM7Ef1KM7Ij5Ef1ae0Ef1Ef1gL6GI3-- > >> 7. Response Headersview source > >> 1. Connection: > >> Keep-Alive > >> 2. Content-Length: > >> 197 > >> 3. Content-Type: > >> text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > >> 4. Date: > >> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:14:18 GMT > >> 5. Keep-Alive: > >> timeout=5, max=100 > >> 6. Location: > >> /mod_sec.html > >> 7. Server: > >> Apache > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> John Smith > >> Learning Technologist > >> School of Health & Life Sciences > >> Glasgow Caledonian University > >> > >> From: > >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > >> On Behalf Of Smith, John > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:39 PM > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > >> > >> And so the plot thickens? > >> > >> On uploading some media on the bioset server and monitoring the network traffic in Chrome Dev Tools, you get this: > >> > >> > >> > >> Notice the ?302 ? Found? code. Now I wasn?t sure if that was right or not. 302-Found usually means ?Yes the file is here so please submit again!!?. So I tried on my server and get this: > >> > >> > >> > >> So what I expected, a 200 OK code? The thing is, if I copy the bioset > >> url that received the 302 code, > >> ?upload.php?path=USER-FILES/15-jjs-Nottingham/media/&BROWSER=safari&A > >> U > >> TH=xerte&PHPSESSID=sessid_removed > >> > >> Then YES, It does update the parameters.txt file so upload.php is > >> being executed on the GET request but not on a POST request? > >> > >> Anyone know what could cause that on a Linux server?? I definitely think that this is a server issue and not the code but why?? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> John Smith > >> Learning Technologist > >> School of Health & Life Sciences > >> Glasgow Caledonian University > >> > >> From: > >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > >> On Behalf Of Smith, John > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:48 PM > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > >> > >> I have full access as user and admin? > >> > >> Not to the filesystem? > >> > >> But as far as I can ascertain, upload.php is never being called. The very first line is now: > >> > >> file_put_contents('parameters.txt', var_export($_GET, true), true); > >> > >> and when you try to upload the media it says successful but the > >> parameters.txt file hasn?t changed? at first I thought we had changed > >> /modules/xerte/engine/upload.php and the site one was being called > >> but that doesn?t appear to be the case either? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> John Smith > >> Learning Technologist > >> School of Health & Life Sciences > >> Glasgow Caledonian University > >> > >> From: > >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:39 PM > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > >> > >> The other weird thing was media and quota didn?t work, and then suddenly did. That made me think liveware was to blame, but I don?t think it is in this case, and if you have access and can replicate, then it?s not that. Do you have full access to the server to try stuff on? That would help a lot if we can avoid having to bounce everything through the forum. > >> > >> From: > >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > >> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:36 > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problems uploading Media > >> > >> No, I?m stumped. It?s not really my area - thanks for your persistence. Can you prove whether upload.php is being called or not? > >> > >> > >> - > >> > >> From: > >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> t s.nottingham.ac.uk> > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > >> On Behalf Of Smith, John > >> Sent: 16 July 2013 13:27 > >> To: > >> xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> uk> > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Problems uploading Media > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Decided to take this off the Forum? still not getting anywhere with > >> it though? > >> > >> So, I?ve patched the upload.php file to write out the $_GET parameter > >> to see what?s being passed from the editor? the thing is that NOTHING > >> is being passed, in fact upload.php doesn?t even look as if it?s > >> being called? > >> > >> If you go here > >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php?name=John > >> then it writes to parameters.txt at > >> http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/parameters.txt > >> > >> Now with this on my server, after uploading, parameters.txt looks like this: > >> > >> array ( > >> 'path' => 'USER-FILES/2-john-Nottingham/media/', > >> 'BROWSER' => 'safari', > >> 'AUTH' => 'xerte', > >> 'PHPSESSID' => 'odF2q4By53rgwvYyJwcgo0', > >> ) > >> > >> However, even now that I have access to the server, and can login and upload stuff via the upload button, parameters.txt never changes? even calling http://uol-bioset.com/xerte/modules/xerte/engine/upload.php with no parameters set shout just write an empty array but nothing is written, the upload path looks right (same as mine anyway). > >> > >> upload.php?path= > >> > >> Anyone have any ideas? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> John Smith > >> Learning Technologist > >> School of Health & Life Sciences > >> Glasgow Caledonian University > >> > >> > >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, > >> number > >> SC021474 > >> > >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, > >> 6 > >> 219,en.html > >> > >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name, > >> 1 > >> 5691,en.html > >> > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 43644 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Jul 18 12:11:47 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:11:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2B8E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2B8E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Perhaps that's why I don't really see it - I'm always logged in with the same account... perhaps there is a cookie remnant being left that is interfering with the session... Can't we just run the "Logout" code to expire/flush the old cookie when login process is run, before setting the new cookie? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:03 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Logging out and back in again has fixed it. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 18 July 2013 12:02 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Session ID Just happened. First time login to toolkits today since booting, not been on any other installs. The last time I used it yesterday I logged in another user via static.php, maybe there's a clue there? 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 43644 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jul 18 12:16:28 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:16:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2B8E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2BA1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> When I get a bit of time alter on I'll see if I can replicate it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Perhaps that's why I don't really see it - I'm always logged in with the same account... perhaps there is a cookie remnant being left that is interfering with the session... Can't we just run the "Logout" code to expire/flush the old cookie when login process is run, before setting the new cookie? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:03 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Logging out and back in again has fixed it. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 18 July 2013 12:02 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Session ID Just happened. First time login to toolkits today since booting, not been on any other installs. The last time I used it yesterday I logged in another user via static.php, maybe there's a clue there? 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:16 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID When I get a bit of time alter on I'll see if I can replicate it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Perhaps that's why I don't really see it - I'm always logged in with the same account... perhaps there is a cookie remnant being left that is interfering with the session... Can't we just run the "Logout" code to expire/flush the old cookie when login process is run, before setting the new cookie? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:03 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Logging out and back in again has fixed it. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 18 July 2013 12:02 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Session ID Just happened. First time login to toolkits today since booting, not been on any other installs. The last time I used it yesterday I logged in another user via static.php, maybe there's a clue there? [cid:image001.png at 01CE83B0.FB59C450] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 18 Jul 2013, at 12:18, "Smith, John" wrote: > Ok, I?m looking at the Auth process to see where it could possibly be falling over? > > Are you using LDAP? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:16 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID > > When I get a bit of time alter on I?ll see if I can replicate it, > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 18 July 2013 12:12 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID > > Perhaps that?s why I don?t really see it ? I?m always logged in with the same account? perhaps there is a cookie remnant being left that is interfering with the session? > > Can?t we just run the ?Logout? code to expire/flush the old cookie when login process is run, before setting the new cookie? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:03 PM > To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID > > Logging out and back in again has fixed it. > > From: Tenney Julian > Sent: 18 July 2013 12:02 > To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: Session ID > > Just happened. First time login to toolkits today since booting, not been on any other installs. The last time I used it yesterday I logged in another user via static.php, maybe there?s a clue there? > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jul 18 12:47:30 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:47:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2B8E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2BA1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2BDC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, although in this cae I'm using LDAP and also using static.php to check for a 'special' user (osls_admin) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Ok, I'm looking at the Auth process to see where it could possibly be falling over... Are you using LDAP? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:16 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID When I get a bit of time alter on I'll see if I can replicate it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Perhaps that's why I don't really see it - I'm always logged in with the same account... perhaps there is a cookie remnant being left that is interfering with the session... Can't we just run the "Logout" code to expire/flush the old cookie when login process is run, before setting the new cookie? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:03 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Logging out and back in again has fixed it. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 18 July 2013 12:02 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Session ID Just happened. First time login to toolkits today since booting, not been on any other installs. The last time I used it yesterday I logged in another user via static.php, maybe there's a clue there? [cid:image001.png at 01CE83B4.F773B3B0] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 18 July 2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Yes, although in this cae I'm using LDAP and also using static.php to check for a 'special' user (osls_admin) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Ok, I'm looking at the Auth process to see where it could possibly be falling over... Are you using LDAP? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:16 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID When I get a bit of time alter on I'll see if I can replicate it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Perhaps that's why I don't really see it - I'm always logged in with the same account... perhaps there is a cookie remnant being left that is interfering with the session... Can't we just run the "Logout" code to expire/flush the old cookie when login process is run, before setting the new cookie? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:03 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Logging out and back in again has fixed it. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 18 July 2013 12:02 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Session ID Just happened. First time login to toolkits today since booting, not been on any other installs. The last time I used it yesterday I logged in another user via static.php, maybe there's a clue there? [cid:image001.png at 01CE83B6.D5511370] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I suggest you look into ways in which the session cookies can be removed, virtually ot otherwise, when the main page is closed, alternatively it may be possible to do some thing with 'pragma nocache' but I have a feeling that may be deprecated in HTML 5. Thomas ======================= Sent from my Windows 8 Phone Please excuse brevity & typos eml: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk mob: 07500 669002 -----Original Message----- From: "Julian Tenney" Sent: ?18/?07/?2013 12:48 To: "For Xerte technical developers" Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Yes, although in this cae I?m using LDAP and also using static.php to check for a ?special? user (osls_admin) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Ok, I?m looking at the Auth process to see where it could possibly be falling over? Are you using LDAP? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:16 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID When I get a bit of time alter on I?ll see if I can replicate it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Perhaps that?s why I don?t really see it ? I?m always logged in with the same account? perhaps there is a cookie remnant being left that is interfering with the session? Can?t we just run the ?Logout? code to expire/flush the old cookie when login process is run, before setting the new cookie? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:03 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Logging out and back in again has fixed it. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 18 July 2013 12:02 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Session ID Just happened. First time login to toolkits today since booting, not been on any other installs. The last time I used it yesterday I logged in another user via static.php, maybe there?s a clue there? Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Jul 18 13:10:45 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:10:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID In-Reply-To: <4A95C7FB-9FC0-4054-BD7F-5A231EFDD4FD@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2B8E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2BA1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4A95C7FB-9FC0-4054-BD7F-5A231EFDD4FD@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Yes but a returning user (or moving between pages) is tracked using cookies as t?internet is stateless? It?s just an idea? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:37 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID In my mind php sessions are set on the server? Not a cookie for the user? On 18 Jul 2013, at 12:18, "Smith, John" > wrote: Ok, I?m looking at the Auth process to see where it could possibly be falling over? Are you using LDAP? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:16 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID When I get a bit of time alter on I?ll see if I can replicate it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Perhaps that?s why I don?t really see it ? I?m always logged in with the same account? perhaps there is a cookie remnant being left that is interfering with the session? Can?t we just run the ?Logout? code to expire/flush the old cookie when login process is run, before setting the new cookie? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:03 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Logging out and back in again has fixed it. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 18 July 2013 12:02 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Session ID Just happened. First time login to toolkits today since booting, not been on any other installs. The last time I used it yesterday I logged in another user via static.php, maybe there?s a clue there? Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Jul 18 13:14:06 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:14:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID In-Reply-To: <51e7d91c.744bb40a.4a4a.0500@mx.google.com> References: <51e7d91c.744bb40a.4a4a.0500@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I think that could be key and why you can?t reproduce? is it to do with expired cookies/sessions which then could be affected by timezones? Perhaps Julian you need to repeat what you did yesterday? log in as the static user before you leave tonight and then log in tomorrow as you and see if it does it again? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:00 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Hi, This is the problem I reported a month or so ago. At the time I thought it was something to do with session Cookies and Timezones. In the end I resolved it, for myself at any rate, by forcing the browser to reload the page on every visit, rather than on startup etc. I think the browsers try to be helpful and discretely submit any cached session cookies when the re-visit the page, with the inevitable result you have seen. I suggest you look into ways in which the session cookies can be removed, virtually ot otherwise, when the main page is closed, alternatively it may be possible to do some thing with 'pragma nocache' but I have a feeling that may be deprecated in HTML 5. Thomas ======================= Sent from my Windows 8 Phone Please excuse brevity & typos eml: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk mob: 07500 669002 ________________________________ From: Julian Tenney Sent: ?18/?07/?2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Yes, although in this cae I?m using LDAP and also using static.php to check for a ?special? user (osls_admin) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Ok, I?m looking at the Auth process to see where it could possibly be falling over? Are you using LDAP? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:16 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID When I get a bit of time alter on I?ll see if I can replicate it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Perhaps that?s why I don?t really see it ? I?m always logged in with the same account? perhaps there is a cookie remnant being left that is interfering with the session? Can?t we just run the ?Logout? code to expire/flush the old cookie when login process is run, before setting the new cookie? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:03 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Logging out and back in again has fixed it. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 18 July 2013 12:02 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Session ID Just happened. First time login to toolkits today since booting, not been on any other installs. The last time I used it yesterday I logged in another user via static.php, maybe there?s a clue there? [cid:image001.png at 01CE83B4.F773B3B0] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Jul 18 13:18:19 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:18:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID In-Reply-To: <51e7d91c.744bb40a.4a4a.0500@mx.google.com> References: <51e7d91c.744bb40a.4a4a.0500@mx.google.com> Message-ID: We can use the newly introduced manifest files to control caching in the html5 browsers See http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/browsers.html#manifests Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:00 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Hi, This is the problem I reported a month or so ago. At the time I thought it was something to do with session Cookies and Timezones. In the end I resolved it, for myself at any rate, by forcing the browser to reload the page on every visit, rather than on startup etc. I think the browsers try to be helpful and discretely submit any cached session cookies when the re-visit the page, with the inevitable result you have seen. I suggest you look into ways in which the session cookies can be removed, virtually ot otherwise, when the main page is closed, alternatively it may be possible to do some thing with 'pragma nocache' but I have a feeling that may be deprecated in HTML 5. Thomas ======================= Sent from my Windows 8 Phone Please excuse brevity & typos eml: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk mob: 07500 669002 ________________________________ From: Julian Tenney Sent: ?18/?07/?2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Yes, although in this cae I?m using LDAP and also using static.php to check for a ?special? user (osls_admin) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Ok, I?m looking at the Auth process to see where it could possibly be falling over? Are you using LDAP? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:16 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID When I get a bit of time alter on I?ll see if I can replicate it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Perhaps that?s why I don?t really see it ? I?m always logged in with the same account? perhaps there is a cookie remnant being left that is interfering with the session? Can?t we just run the ?Logout? code to expire/flush the old cookie when login process is run, before setting the new cookie? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:03 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Logging out and back in again has fixed it. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 18 July 2013 12:02 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Session ID Just happened. First time login to toolkits today since booting, not been on any other installs. The last time I used it yesterday I logged in another user via static.php, maybe there?s a clue there? [cid:image001.png at 01CE83B4.F773B3B0] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 13:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID I think that could be key and why you can?t reproduce? is it to do with expired cookies/sessions which then could be affected by timezones? Perhaps Julian you need to repeat what you did yesterday? log in as the static user before you leave tonight and then log in tomorrow as you and see if it does it again? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:00 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Hi, This is the problem I reported a month or so ago. At the time I thought it was something to do with session Cookies and Timezones. In the end I resolved it, for myself at any rate, by forcing the browser to reload the page on every visit, rather than on startup etc. I think the browsers try to be helpful and discretely submit any cached session cookies when the re-visit the page, with the inevitable result you have seen. I suggest you look into ways in which the session cookies can be removed, virtually ot otherwise, when the main page is closed, alternatively it may be possible to do some thing with 'pragma nocache' but I have a feeling that may be deprecated in HTML 5. Thomas ======================= Sent from my Windows 8 Phone Please excuse brevity & typos eml: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk mob: 07500 669002 ________________________________ From: Julian Tenney Sent: ?18/?07/?2013 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Yes, although in this cae I?m using LDAP and also using static.php to check for a ?special? user (osls_admin) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Ok, I?m looking at the Auth process to see where it could possibly be falling over? Are you using LDAP? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:16 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID When I get a bit of time alter on I?ll see if I can replicate it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 12:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Perhaps that?s why I don?t really see it ? I?m always logged in with the same account? perhaps there is a cookie remnant being left that is interfering with the session? Can?t we just run the ?Logout? code to expire/flush the old cookie when login process is run, before setting the new cookie? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:03 PM To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Session ID Logging out and back in again has fixed it. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 18 July 2013 12:02 To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: Session ID Just happened. First time login to toolkits today since booting, not been on any other installs. The last time I used it yesterday I logged in another user via static.php, maybe there?s a clue there? [cid:image001.png at 01CE83B4.F773B3B0] Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Jul 18 22:33:30 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:33:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Message-ID: I'm up for it if you are... We might as well do it in the best way we can in 2013 Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Angularjs.org Looks like it could be good for the editor? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Jul 18 23:56:52 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:56:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Message-ID: Laravel for the backed? Can we make users require PHP 5.4? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Smith, John" wrote: I'm up for it if you are... We might as well do it in the best way we can in 2013 Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Angularjs.org Looks like it could be good for the editor? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Fri Jul 19 09:23:15 2013 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:23:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Searching inside a published object Message-ID: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> Hi there, As a learner, I would like to be able to search inside the learning objects that Xerte produces. Is it possible to index the textual elements of the XML that produces a Xerte object? A bit like Zoomsearch (http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/) Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 09:30:56 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:30:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object In-Reply-To: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You could code a ?find? feature up if you write code? 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 09:37:25 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:37:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: It's ok... it was more tongue in cheek... Laravel needs to be installed on the server too... We should use a framework server side too though... I'm looking at a few and then we can discuss if you want... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js > Can we make users require PHP 5.4? I don't think so. No one is going to update their PHP installation just so someone can install toolkits. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 23:57 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Laravel for the backed? Can we make users require PHP 5.4? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Smith, John" wrote: I'm up for it if you are... We might as well do it in the best way we can in 2013 Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Angularjs.org Looks like it could be good for the editor? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Fri Jul 19 09:37:02 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:37:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71072A18-4DDB-47B7-A833-5E0AC4F5FA0F@pgogywebstuff.com> I've always shied away from the editor, mostly because then I know about how everything works and don't want to get swamped. Angular seemed to do the new node addition well - thought a tool that helps with that would be good On 18 Jul 2013, at 22:33, "Smith, John" wrote: > I'm up for it if you are... We might as well do it in the best way we can in 2013 > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > Angularjs.org > > Looks like it could be good for the editor? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Fri Jul 19 09:34:41 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:34:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EF4E803-78C8-4A86-92AF-9D47582D49F3@pgogywebstuff.com> I wouldn't Php back end would be a bit much for me, not common yet in wp or Drupal On 18 Jul 2013, at 23:56, "Smith, John" wrote: > Laravel for the backed? Can we make users require PHP 5.4? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > "Smith, John" wrote: > > > I'm up for it if you are... We might as well do it in the best way we can in 2013 > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: > > > Angularjs.org > > Looks like it could be good for the editor? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 10:03:20 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:03:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EE9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I was looking at it as well for other stuff, I didn't dig in too deeply, but I liked the things I read about, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 22:34 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js I'm up for it if you are... We might as well do it in the best way we can in 2013 Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Angularjs.org Looks like it could be good for the editor? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Fri Jul 19 10:20:54 2013 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:20:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4357DC1EEF784867AE0BC4B1A43BB845@wyversolutions.co.uk> Oh, I wish? I'll look into it, but don't hold your breath? I'm just above beginner stage when it comes to PHP! Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:30, Julian Tenney wrote: > You could code a ?find? feature up if you write code? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 19 July 2013 09:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Searching inside a published object > > Hi there, > > > > As a learner, I would like to be able to search inside the learning objects that Xerte produces. > > > > Is it possible to index the textual elements of the XML that produces a Xerte object? A bit like Zoomsearch (http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 10:26:33 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:26:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object In-Reply-To: <4357DC1EEF784867AE0BC4B1A43BB845@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4357DC1EEF784867AE0BC4B1A43BB845@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> This would be JavaScript / JQuery. It could work like this: Show a find dialog; User enters phrase, hits ?find? Then what? You get a list of pages where the text was found? Click on each page to go there and the phrases are highlighted? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object Oh, I wish? I'll look into it, but don't hold your breath? I'm just above beginner stage when it comes to PHP! Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:30, Julian Tenney wrote: You could code a ?find? feature up if you write code? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 09:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Searching inside a published object Hi there, As a learner, I would like to be able to search inside the learning objects that Xerte produces. Is it possible to index the textual elements of the XML that produces a Xerte object? A bit like Zoomsearch (http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/) Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Jul 19 10:32:22 2013 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:32:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <020501ce8462$e0964910$a1c2db30$@co.uk> I know you've said the comment was tongue in cheek John but thought I should add a couple of comments... 1. Having just helped an organisation with their Moodle upgrade on external hosting (they aren't using Xerte but the issue is relevant) and obviously similar scenarios elsewhere too I'd say it's important to try to avoid any requirement of further PHP upgrades if it can be avoided. e.g. in this particular case the organisation has had to stick with upgrading to Moodle 2.2 rather than anything later because anything later requires at least PHP 5.3.3 and they are stuck with 5.3.2! Before you say changes hosts that's what they now plan but can't until the end of the year. 2. I get involved in a lot of discussions about why IT teams can't or won't install XOT. I often use the argument that all it requires is PHP and MySql which you already have and will work on IIS or Apache too. As we know there can still be a barrier that it's currently MySQL only rather than MSSQL and I know that's a separate discussion but in my experience I'd say again it's important to try to avoid any other server side components that aren't likely to already be in place unless such things can be part of the installer/setup/upgrade code. I know we all appreciate this but just thought I'd summarise from my experience of trying to help people get their IT team to install. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 19 July 2013 09:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js It's ok... it was more tongue in cheek... Laravel needs to be installed on the server too... We should use a framework server side too though... I'm looking at a few and then we can discuss if you want... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js > Can we make users require PHP 5.4? I don't think so. No one is going to update their PHP installation just so someone can install toolkits. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 23:57 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Laravel for the backed? Can we make users require PHP 5.4? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Smith, John" wrote: I'm up for it if you are... 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Fri Jul 19 10:46:21 2013 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:46:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4357DC1EEF784867AE0BC4B1A43BB845@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Julian, That's exactly what I'm expecting. I thought PHP would be necessary, because somewhere you'd have to build an index file containing text and relevant page links. This index file would be created at the point of publishing and stored with the learning object. At that point you can start using Javascript in the browser to traverse the index when the form is submitted. Javascript can't spider across all the pages can it? Unless you're using node.js on the server? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:26, Julian Tenney wrote: > This would be JavaScript / JQuery. It could work like this: > > Show a find dialog; > User enters phrase, hits ?find? > Then what? You get a list of pages where the text was found? > Click on each page to go there and the phrases are highlighted? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 19 July 2013 10:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object > > Oh, I wish? > > > I'll look into it, but don't hold your breath? I'm just above beginner stage when it comes to PHP! > > > > Mark > > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:30, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > You could code a ?find? feature up if you write code? > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > Sent: 19 July 2013 09:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Searching inside a published object > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a learner, I would like to be able to search inside the learning objects that Xerte produces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to index the textual elements of the XML that produces a Xerte object? A bit like Zoomsearch (http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 10:59:46 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:59:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object In-Reply-To: References: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4357DC1EEF784867AE0BC4B1A43BB845@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F6A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Once the piece has loaded you?ve got the XML, and can run over it with JQuery easily. Doing the search is easy, doing the next bits is a bit more difficult From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 10:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object Hi Julian, That's exactly what I'm expecting. I thought PHP would be necessary, because somewhere you'd have to build an index file containing text and relevant page links. This index file would be created at the point of publishing and stored with the learning object. At that point you can start using Javascript in the browser to traverse the index when the form is submitted. Javascript can't spider across all the pages can it? Unless you're using node.js on the server? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:26, Julian Tenney wrote: This would be JavaScript / JQuery. It could work like this: Show a find dialog; User enters phrase, hits ?find? Then what? You get a list of pages where the text was found? Click on each page to go there and the phrases are highlighted? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object Oh, I wish? I'll look into it, but don't hold your breath? I'm just above beginner stage when it comes to PHP! Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:30, Julian Tenney wrote: You could code a ?find? feature up if you write code? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 09:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Searching inside a published object Hi there, As a learner, I would like to be able to search inside the learning objects that Xerte produces. Is it possible to index the textual elements of the XML that produces a Xerte object? A bit like Zoomsearch (http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/) Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Fri Jul 19 11:14:08 2013 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:14:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F6A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4357DC1EEF784867AE0BC4B1A43BB845@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F6A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: OK. That makes sense. I'm looking at a previewed object now. Where will I find the XML? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:59, Julian Tenney wrote: > Once the piece has loaded you?ve got the XML, and can run over it with JQuery easily. Doing the search is easy, doing the next bits is a bit more difficult > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 19 July 2013 10:46 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object > > Hi Julian, > > > That's exactly what I'm expecting. > > > > I thought PHP would be necessary, because somewhere you'd have to build an index file containing text and relevant page links. This index file would be created at the point of publishing and stored with the learning object. At that point you can start using Javascript in the browser to traverse the index when the form is submitted. > > > > Javascript can't spider across all the pages can it? Unless you're using node.js on the server? > > > > Mark > > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:26, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > This would be JavaScript / JQuery. It could work like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > Show a find dialog; > > > > > > User enters phrase, hits ?find? > > > > > > Then what? You get a list of pages where the text was found? > > > > > > Click on each page to go there and the phrases are highlighted? > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > Sent: 19 July 2013 10:21 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I wish? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll look into it, but don't hold your breath? I'm just above beginner stage when it comes to PHP! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:30, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > > > You could code a ?find? feature up if you write code? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > > Sent: 19 July 2013 09:23 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Searching inside a published object > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a learner, I would like to be able to search inside the learning objects that Xerte produces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to index the textual elements of the XML that produces a Xerte object? A bit like Zoomsearch (http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm looking at a previewed object now. Where will I find the XML? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:59, Julian Tenney wrote: Once the piece has loaded you?ve got the XML, and can run over it with JQuery easily. Doing the search is easy, doing the next bits is a bit more difficult From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 10:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object Hi Julian, That's exactly what I'm expecting. I thought PHP would be necessary, because somewhere you'd have to build an index file containing text and relevant page links. This index file would be created at the point of publishing and stored with the learning object. At that point you can start using Javascript in the browser to traverse the index when the form is submitted. Javascript can't spider across all the pages can it? Unless you're using node.js on the server? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:26, Julian Tenney wrote: This would be JavaScript / JQuery. It could work like this: Show a find dialog; User enters phrase, hits ?find? Then what? You get a list of pages where the text was found? Click on each page to go there and the phrases are highlighted? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object Oh, I wish? I'll look into it, but don't hold your breath? I'm just above beginner stage when it comes to PHP! Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:30, Julian Tenney wrote: You could code a ?find? feature up if you write code? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 09:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Searching inside a published object Hi there, As a learner, I would like to be able to search inside the learning objects that Xerte produces. Is it possible to index the textual elements of the XML that produces a Xerte object? 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 12:04:59 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:04:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js In-Reply-To: <020501ce8462$e0964910$a1c2db30$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <020501ce8462$e0964910$a1c2db30$@co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Ron, Yes, I know that is a big concern for a lot of people and that shifting host is not always an option... We'll try to aim for the minimum PHP level that we can achieve. Pat wants to try to funnel all the ajax stuff through a private api so I think we'll have to write that from the ground up anyway and it should hopefully simplify things a lot from what we have just now and make it more maintainable... Database abstraction probably is something that we should look at so that we can send the api requests to whichever database is in use and don't see why we can't support mssql too as well as any others in a modular fashion... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 10:32 AM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js I know you've said the comment was tongue in cheek John but thought I should add a couple of comments... 1. Having just helped an organisation with their Moodle upgrade on external hosting (they aren't using Xerte but the issue is relevant) and obviously similar scenarios elsewhere too I'd say it's important to try to avoid any requirement of further PHP upgrades if it can be avoided. e.g. in this particular case the organisation has had to stick with upgrading to Moodle 2.2 rather than anything later because anything later requires at least PHP 5.3.3 and they are stuck with 5.3.2! Before you say changes hosts that's what they now plan but can't until the end of the year. 2. I get involved in a lot of discussions about why IT teams can't or won't install XOT. I often use the argument that all it requires is PHP and MySql which you already have and will work on IIS or Apache too. As we know there can still be a barrier that it's currently MySQL only rather than MSSQL and I know that's a separate discussion but in my experience I'd say again it's important to try to avoid any other server side components that aren't likely to already be in place unless such things can be part of the installer/setup/upgrade code. I know we all appreciate this but just thought I'd summarise from my experience of trying to help people get their IT team to install. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 19 July 2013 09:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js It's ok... it was more tongue in cheek... Laravel needs to be installed on the server too... We should use a framework server side too though... I'm looking at a few and then we can discuss if you want... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js > Can we make users require PHP 5.4? I don't think so. No one is going to update their PHP installation just so someone can install toolkits. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 23:57 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Laravel for the backed? Can we make users require PHP 5.4? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Smith, John" wrote: I'm up for it if you are... We might as well do it in the best way we can in 2013 Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Angularjs.org Looks like it could be good for the editor? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 12:13:54 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:13:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <020501ce8462$e0964910$a1c2db30$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2FF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> There is a degree of 'scratch your own itch' here. If you want to use mssql, then you might want to take the lead in developing the abstraction layer. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 19 July 2013 12:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Thanks Ron, Yes, I know that is a big concern for a lot of people and that shifting host is not always an option... We'll try to aim for the minimum PHP level that we can achieve. Pat wants to try to funnel all the ajax stuff through a private api so I think we'll have to write that from the ground up anyway and it should hopefully simplify things a lot from what we have just now and make it more maintainable... Database abstraction probably is something that we should look at so that we can send the api requests to whichever database is in use and don't see why we can't support mssql too as well as any others in a modular fashion... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 10:32 AM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js I know you've said the comment was tongue in cheek John but thought I should add a couple of comments... 1. Having just helped an organisation with their Moodle upgrade on external hosting (they aren't using Xerte but the issue is relevant) and obviously similar scenarios elsewhere too I'd say it's important to try to avoid any requirement of further PHP upgrades if it can be avoided. e.g. in this particular case the organisation has had to stick with upgrading to Moodle 2.2 rather than anything later because anything later requires at least PHP 5.3.3 and they are stuck with 5.3.2! Before you say changes hosts that's what they now plan but can't until the end of the year. 2. I get involved in a lot of discussions about why IT teams can't or won't install XOT. I often use the argument that all it requires is PHP and MySql which you already have and will work on IIS or Apache too. As we know there can still be a barrier that it's currently MySQL only rather than MSSQL and I know that's a separate discussion but in my experience I'd say again it's important to try to avoid any other server side components that aren't likely to already be in place unless such things can be part of the installer/setup/upgrade code. I know we all appreciate this but just thought I'd summarise from my experience of trying to help people get their IT team to install. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 19 July 2013 09:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js It's ok... it was more tongue in cheek... Laravel needs to be installed on the server too... We should use a framework server side too though... I'm looking at a few and then we can discuss if you want... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js > Can we make users require PHP 5.4? I don't think so. No one is going to update their PHP installation just so someone can install toolkits. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 23:57 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Laravel for the backed? Can we make users require PHP 5.4? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Smith, John" wrote: I'm up for it if you are... We might as well do it in the best way we can in 2013 Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Angularjs.org Looks like it could be good for the editor? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Jul 19 12:19:35 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:19:35 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js In-Reply-To: <020501ce8462$e0964910$a1c2db30$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <020501ce8462$e0964910$a1c2db30$@co.uk> Message-ID: >Before you say changes hosts that's what they now plan but can't until the end of the year. That minor sort of thing hasn't stopped us in the past.;-) Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 12:21:49 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2FF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <020501ce8462$e0964910$a1c2db30$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2FF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Agree... it's not high on my priority list... but I think it's always good to keep these things in the back of your mind... I think the more these things are abstracted the easier adding that additional functionality becomes... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:14 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js There is a degree of 'scratch your own itch' here. If you want to use mssql, then you might want to take the lead in developing the abstraction layer. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 19 July 2013 12:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Thanks Ron, Yes, I know that is a big concern for a lot of people and that shifting host is not always an option... We'll try to aim for the minimum PHP level that we can achieve. Pat wants to try to funnel all the ajax stuff through a private api so I think we'll have to write that from the ground up anyway and it should hopefully simplify things a lot from what we have just now and make it more maintainable... Database abstraction probably is something that we should look at so that we can send the api requests to whichever database is in use and don't see why we can't support mssql too as well as any others in a modular fashion... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 10:32 AM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js I know you've said the comment was tongue in cheek John but thought I should add a couple of comments... 1. Having just helped an organisation with their Moodle upgrade on external hosting (they aren't using Xerte but the issue is relevant) and obviously similar scenarios elsewhere too I'd say it's important to try to avoid any requirement of further PHP upgrades if it can be avoided. e.g. in this particular case the organisation has had to stick with upgrading to Moodle 2.2 rather than anything later because anything later requires at least PHP 5.3.3 and they are stuck with 5.3.2! Before you say changes hosts that's what they now plan but can't until the end of the year. 2. I get involved in a lot of discussions about why IT teams can't or won't install XOT. I often use the argument that all it requires is PHP and MySql which you already have and will work on IIS or Apache too. As we know there can still be a barrier that it's currently MySQL only rather than MSSQL and I know that's a separate discussion but in my experience I'd say again it's important to try to avoid any other server side components that aren't likely to already be in place unless such things can be part of the installer/setup/upgrade code. I know we all appreciate this but just thought I'd summarise from my experience of trying to help people get their IT team to install. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 19 July 2013 09:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js It's ok... it was more tongue in cheek... Laravel needs to be installed on the server too... We should use a framework server side too though... I'm looking at a few and then we can discuss if you want... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js > Can we make users require PHP 5.4? I don't think so. No one is going to update their PHP installation just so someone can install toolkits. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 23:57 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Laravel for the backed? Can we make users require PHP 5.4? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Smith, John" wrote: I'm up for it if you are... We might as well do it in the best way we can in 2013 Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Pat @ Pgogy" wrote: Angularjs.org Looks like it could be good for the editor? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 12:36:12 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:36:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <020501ce8462$e0964910$a1c2db30$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2FF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE3008@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Sure, I get that. It's a much better justification. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 19 July 2013 12:22 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Agree... it's not high on my priority list... but I think it's always good to keep these things in the back of your mind... I think the more these things are abstracted the easier adding that additional functionality becomes... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:14 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js There is a degree of 'scratch your own itch' here. If you want to use mssql, then you might want to take the lead in developing the abstraction layer. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 19 July 2013 12:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Thanks Ron, Yes, I know that is a big concern for a lot of people and that shifting host is not always an option... We'll try to aim for the minimum PHP level that we can achieve. Pat wants to try to funnel all the ajax stuff through a private api so I think we'll have to write that from the ground up anyway and it should hopefully simplify things a lot from what we have just now and make it more maintainable... Database abstraction probably is something that we should look at so that we can send the api requests to whichever database is in use and don't see why we can't support mssql too as well as any others in a modular fashion... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 10:32 AM To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js I know you've said the comment was tongue in cheek John but thought I should add a couple of comments... 1. Having just helped an organisation with their Moodle upgrade on external hosting (they aren't using Xerte but the issue is relevant) and obviously similar scenarios elsewhere too I'd say it's important to try to avoid any requirement of further PHP upgrades if it can be avoided. e.g. in this particular case the organisation has had to stick with upgrading to Moodle 2.2 rather than anything later because anything later requires at least PHP 5.3.3 and they are stuck with 5.3.2! Before you say changes hosts that's what they now plan but can't until the end of the year. 2. I get involved in a lot of discussions about why IT teams can't or won't install XOT. I often use the argument that all it requires is PHP and MySql which you already have and will work on IIS or Apache too. As we know there can still be a barrier that it's currently MySQL only rather than MSSQL and I know that's a separate discussion but in my experience I'd say again it's important to try to avoid any other server side components that aren't likely to already be in place unless such things can be part of the installer/setup/upgrade code. I know we all appreciate this but just thought I'd summarise from my experience of trying to help people get their IT team to install. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 19 July 2013 09:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js It's ok... it was more tongue in cheek... Laravel needs to be installed on the server too... We should use a framework server side too though... I'm looking at a few and then we can discuss if you want... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:32 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js > Can we make users require PHP 5.4? I don't think so. No one is going to update their PHP installation just so someone can install toolkits. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 18 July 2013 23:57 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Angular js Laravel for the backed? Can we make users require PHP 5.4? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Smith, John" wrote: I'm up for it if you are... 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So that the Xerte learning object can stay on the Xerte server, and be played inside multiple LMS's/VLE's. I know it's possible (Xyleme, who I did some work for last year, have got it working on their Bravais content delivery platform). Cheers, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 13:53:54 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:53:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Cross-domain SCORM player In-Reply-To: <36A2F0F6A0EC4AC5B9E72CE0B31C4AC1@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: <36A2F0F6A0EC4AC5B9E72CE0B31C4AC1@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE3069@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> We haven?t done it that way, but it can be done: when a SCORM LO is l;auncehd it looks up through the window hierarchy for the API, and then initialises when it finds it: if an LMS opened a window to a Xerte SCO on a toolkits server, it should still do that, it wouldn?t be difficult to experiment with, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 12:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Cross-domain SCORM player Hi all, I'm just wondering if Xerte has cracked the problem of cross-domain SCORM playing? 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URL: From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Fri Jul 19 13:55:48 2013 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:55:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F86@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4357DC1EEF784867AE0BC4B1A43BB845@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F6A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F86@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3267162DB6334A80BD5FB14D9E33EE30@wyversolutions.co.uk> Thanks Julian, I've found xenith.js in the Nottingham template. Where would I find it for the Bootstrap template? Or am I misunderstanding how the templates work? I can't find any documentation about how XOT is structured from a code perspective? Does that exist yet? Cheers, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 11:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > Read through the xenith.js > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 19 July 2013 11:14 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object > > OK. That makes sense. I'm looking at a previewed object now. Where will I find the XML? > > > Mark > > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:59, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > Once the piece has loaded you?ve got the XML, and can run over it with JQuery easily. Doing the search is easy, doing the next bits is a bit more difficult > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > Sent: 19 July 2013 10:46 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's exactly what I'm expecting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought PHP would be necessary, because somewhere you'd have to build an index file containing text and relevant page links. This index file would be created at the point of publishing and stored with the learning object. At that point you can start using Javascript in the browser to traverse the index when the form is submitted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Javascript can't spider across all the pages can it? Unless you're using node.js on the server? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:26, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > > > This would be JavaScript / JQuery. It could work like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show a find dialog; > > > > > > > > > User enters phrase, hits ?find? > > > > > > > > > Then what? You get a list of pages where the text was found? > > > > > > > > > Click on each page to go there and the phrases are highlighted? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > > Sent: 19 July 2013 10:21 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I wish? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll look into it, but don't hold your breath? I'm just above beginner stage when it comes to PHP! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:30, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > > > > > You could code a ?find? feature up if you write code? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > > > Sent: 19 July 2013 09:23 > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Searching inside a published object > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a learner, I would like to be able to search inside the learning objects that Xerte produces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to index the textual elements of the XML that produces a Xerte object? A bit like Zoomsearch (http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Fri Jul 19 13:57:19 2013 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:57:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Cross-domain SCORM player In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE3069@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <36A2F0F6A0EC4AC5B9E72CE0B31C4AC1@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE3069@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <15000427DA9F433697CD5E639710C8BC@wyversolutions.co.uk> Hi Julian, That would be fine if the LMS and Xerte were on the same domain. What if you wanted to serve the same content to multiple domains? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 13:53, Julian Tenney wrote: > We haven?t done it that way, but it can be done: when a SCORM LO is l;auncehd it looks up through the window hierarchy for the API, and then initialises when it finds it: if an LMS opened a window to a Xerte SCO on a toolkits server, it should still do that, it wouldn?t be difficult to experiment with, > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 19 July 2013 12:41 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Cross-domain SCORM player > > Hi all, > > > > I'm just wondering if Xerte has cracked the problem of cross-domain SCORM playing? So that the Xerte learning object can stay on the Xerte server, and be played inside multiple LMS's/VLE's. > > > > I know it's possible (Xyleme, who I did some work for last year, have got it working on their Bravais content delivery platform). > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 14:00:24 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:00:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object In-Reply-To: <3267162DB6334A80BD5FB14D9E33EE30@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4357DC1EEF784867AE0BC4B1A43BB845@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F6A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F86@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3267162DB6334A80BD5FB14D9E33EE30@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE3072@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Xenith.js does the common work, and the models contain the logic for the page templates: they have javascript, css and html in them, and basically get loaded, and the xml for that page is passed to them to process and create the content. The bootstrap template is powered by application.js in modules\site\parent_templates\site\common\js. There?s not much to that really. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 13:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object Thanks Julian, I've found xenith.js in the Nottingham template. Where would I find it for the Bootstrap template? Or am I misunderstanding how the templates work? I can't find any documentation about how XOT is structured from a code perspective? Does that exist yet? Cheers, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 11:16, Julian Tenney wrote: Read through the xenith.js From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 11:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object OK. That makes sense. I'm looking at a previewed object now. Where will I find the XML? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:59, Julian Tenney wrote: Once the piece has loaded you?ve got the XML, and can run over it with JQuery easily. Doing the search is easy, doing the next bits is a bit more difficult From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 10:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object Hi Julian, That's exactly what I'm expecting. I thought PHP would be necessary, because somewhere you'd have to build an index file containing text and relevant page links. This index file would be created at the point of publishing and stored with the learning object. At that point you can start using Javascript in the browser to traverse the index when the form is submitted. Javascript can't spider across all the pages can it? Unless you're using node.js on the server? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:26, Julian Tenney wrote: This would be JavaScript / JQuery. It could work like this: Show a find dialog; User enters phrase, hits ?find? Then what? You get a list of pages where the text was found? Click on each page to go there and the phrases are highlighted? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object Oh, I wish? I'll look into it, but don't hold your breath? I'm just above beginner stage when it comes to PHP! Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:30, Julian Tenney wrote: You could code a ?find? feature up if you write code? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 09:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Searching inside a published object Hi there, As a learner, I would like to be able to search inside the learning objects that Xerte produces. Is it possible to index the textual elements of the XML that produces a Xerte object? A bit like Zoomsearch (http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/) Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Fri Jul 19 14:07:29 2013 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:07:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE3072@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4357DC1EEF784867AE0BC4B1A43BB845@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F6A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F86@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3267162DB6334A80BD5FB14D9E33EE30@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE3072@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I see. Thanks. You make it sound so simple :-) Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 14:00, Julian Tenney wrote: > Xenith.js does the common work, and the models contain the logic for the page templates: they have javascript, css and html in them, and basically get loaded, and the xml for that page is passed to them to process and create the content. > > The bootstrap template is powered by application.js in modules\site\parent_templates\site\common\js. There?s not much to that really. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 19 July 2013 13:56 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object > > Thanks Julian, > > > I've found xenith.js in the Nottingham template. Where would I find it for the Bootstrap template? Or am I misunderstanding how the templates work? > > > > I can't find any documentation about how XOT is structured from a code perspective? Does that exist yet? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mark > > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 11:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > Read through the xenith.js > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > Sent: 19 July 2013 11:14 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object > > > > > > > > > > > > OK. That makes sense. I'm looking at a previewed object now. Where will I find the XML? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:59, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > > > Once the piece has loaded you?ve got the XML, and can run over it with JQuery easily. Doing the search is easy, doing the next bits is a bit more difficult > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > > Sent: 19 July 2013 10:46 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's exactly what I'm expecting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought PHP would be necessary, because somewhere you'd have to build an index file containing text and relevant page links. This index file would be created at the point of publishing and stored with the learning object. At that point you can start using Javascript in the browser to traverse the index when the form is submitted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Javascript can't spider across all the pages can it? Unless you're using node.js on the server? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:26, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > > > > > This would be JavaScript / JQuery. It could work like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show a find dialog; > > > > > > > > > > > > User enters phrase, hits ?find? > > > > > > > > > > > > Then what? You get a list of pages where the text was found? > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on each page to go there and the phrases are highlighted? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > > > Sent: 19 July 2013 10:21 > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I wish? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll look into it, but don't hold your breath? I'm just above beginner stage when it comes to PHP! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:30, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You could code a ?find? feature up if you write code? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > > > > Sent: 19 July 2013 09:23 > > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Searching inside a published object > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a learner, I would like to be able to search inside the learning objects that Xerte produces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to index the textual elements of the XML that produces a Xerte object? A bit like Zoomsearch (http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 14:23:54 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:23:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Cross-domain SCORM player In-Reply-To: <15000427DA9F433697CD5E639710C8BC@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: <36A2F0F6A0EC4AC5B9E72CE0B31C4AC1@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE3069@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <15000427DA9F433697CD5E639710C8BC@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: I?ve been looking at it very recently? still not got it working yet but it should be possible? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:57 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Cross-domain SCORM player Hi Julian, That would be fine if the LMS and Xerte were on the same domain. What if you wanted to serve the same content to multiple domains? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 13:53, Julian Tenney wrote: We haven?t done it that way, but it can be done: when a SCORM LO is l;auncehd it looks up through the window hierarchy for the API, and then initialises when it finds it: if an LMS opened a window to a Xerte SCO on a toolkits server, it should still do that, it wouldn?t be difficult to experiment with, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 12:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Cross-domain SCORM player Hi all, I'm just wondering if Xerte has cracked the problem of cross-domain SCORM playing? So that the Xerte learning object can stay on the Xerte server, and be played inside multiple LMS's/VLE's. I know it's possible (Xyleme, who I did some work for last year, have got it working on their Bravais content delivery platform). 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jul 19 14:54:03 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:54:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object In-Reply-To: References: <17AD3323110B47E79F14E2CF03EA7AE2@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2EA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4357DC1EEF784867AE0BC4B1A43BB845@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F6A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE2F86@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3267162DB6334A80BD5FB14D9E33EE30@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE3072@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE30BD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Conceptually it is. ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 14:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object I see. Thanks. You make it sound so simple :-) Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 14:00, Julian Tenney wrote: Xenith.js does the common work, and the models contain the logic for the page templates: they have javascript, css and html in them, and basically get loaded, and the xml for that page is passed to them to process and create the content. The bootstrap template is powered by application.js in modules\site\parent_templates\site\common\js. There?s not much to that really. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 13:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object Thanks Julian, I've found xenith.js in the Nottingham template. Where would I find it for the Bootstrap template? Or am I misunderstanding how the templates work? I can't find any documentation about how XOT is structured from a code perspective? Does that exist yet? Cheers, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 11:16, Julian Tenney wrote: Read through the xenith.js From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 11:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object OK. That makes sense. I'm looking at a previewed object now. Where will I find the XML? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:59, Julian Tenney wrote: Once the piece has loaded you?ve got the XML, and can run over it with JQuery easily. Doing the search is easy, doing the next bits is a bit more difficult From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 10:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object Hi Julian, That's exactly what I'm expecting. I thought PHP would be necessary, because somewhere you'd have to build an index file containing text and relevant page links. This index file would be created at the point of publishing and stored with the learning object. At that point you can start using Javascript in the browser to traverse the index when the form is submitted. Javascript can't spider across all the pages can it? Unless you're using node.js on the server? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 10:26, Julian Tenney wrote: This would be JavaScript / JQuery. It could work like this: Show a find dialog; User enters phrase, hits ?find? Then what? You get a list of pages where the text was found? Click on each page to go there and the phrases are highlighted? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Searching inside a published object Oh, I wish? I'll look into it, but don't hold your breath? I'm just above beginner stage when it comes to PHP! Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:30, Julian Tenney wrote: You could code a ?find? feature up if you write code? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 19 July 2013 09:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Searching inside a published object Hi there, As a learner, I would like to be able to search inside the learning objects that Xerte produces. Is it possible to index the textual elements of the XML that produces a Xerte object? 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Yes, I can see LOs listed when I click User Templates I click on a learner object and I can view information about the object. I can click on the Properties link and see a new window with properties in it. I cannot preview or edit it. Edit gives me permission denied which is expected. ----- You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Jul 19 16:49:15 2013 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:49:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fwd:[Forum XCW] Upgrading to v2.0 and user files (Installation) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02e801ce8497$86eb2a90$94c17fb0$@co.uk> I suspect they haven't changed the paths in site details or via management? e.g. The database knows about the projects but not the filesystem? If it's not that then perhaps different usernames? Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 19 July 2013 16:24 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fwd:[Forum XCW] Upgrading to v2.0 and user files (Installation) Strange one on forum... After upgrade to v2 users cant see their LOs in workspaces but admin can in management... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII -------- Original message -------- Subject: [Forum XCW] Upgrading to v2.0 and user files (Installation) From: Forum XCW To: "Smith, John" CC: A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW Message Subject : Upgrading to v2.0 and user files Category : Installation Posted by : Kalle URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=2&id=89&mesid=429&Itemid=207&lang=en Message : ----- Yes, I can see users. Yes, I can see LOs listed when I click User Templates I click on a learner object and I can view information about the object. I can click on the Properties link and see a new window with properties in it. I cannot preview or edit it. Edit gives me permission denied which is expected. ----- You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sun Jul 21 10:12:27 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:12:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) In-Reply-To: <44c427dadea2edae4511e65a240799ed@www.xerte.org.uk> References: <44c427dadea2edae4511e65a240799ed@www.xerte.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi, This is probably mainly for Tom or Inge (but I would welcome input and thoughts from others) but this message below from the Forum didn't actually make it onto the forum so it must be stuck somewhere (like one previous that I reported)... not sure if you can investigate this or do anything to prevent it happening but it would be good if it could appear in the sequence as it may contain useful info... Also, I've been on the forum a lot lately as I know some of you are not around or are busy. I've been getting an annoying white page error very often when clicking [Reply] why often disappears when I click refresh but occasionally it can take several tries (even using Shift-F5 in Chrome to ignore the cache...). Again not sure if that is something you can trace an fix but it could put people off... Last thing... is there any plans for a Wiki? I'd like to get some of this information in my head and from the Forums in a place which we can build into a useful repositorty - the Forum is great but some posts can go on for a while (the Media Upload error one) and it was a relatively easy fix in the end but people may not want to wade through 60 or more pages to find the answer... thoughts? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: Forum XCW [forum at xerte.org.uk] Sent: 21 July 2013 06:31 To: Smith, John Subject: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW Message Subject : Title bar and footer missing from display Category : Bugs and Issues Posted by : Mark Gallagher URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=90&mesid=434&Itemid=207&lang=en Message : ----- Hi John, No Joy yet! I was following your instructions wrong first time trying to view Dev mode. Rechecked and found the error also: Uncaught ReferenceError: geovisit is not defined. I called Yahoo tech support, They said my site stats are set to off and they didn't see any errors on there side in their error logs. I took the tech rep through the same process. She had the same result, no title or footer bar and also received the same error. I only get this error using the xerte template I don't even see a reference to geovisit...they didn't seem to know what that was either. humph! I'll keep checking different settings. Any thoughts are appreciated Thanks Mark ----- You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sun Jul 21 10:23:07 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:23:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fwd:[Forum XCW] Upgrading to v2.0 and user files (Installation) In-Reply-To: <02e801ce8497$86eb2a90$94c17fb0$@co.uk> References: , <02e801ce8497$86eb2a90$94c17fb0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Ron, Sorry, don't think I ever replied to you... Those were the only two things that I could really thing of too - I assumed that when she said that users couldn't see their data that she meant in Workspace (but I have now asked her to clarify this)... if this is the case though then I figured that this could only happen if the usernames were different - but since they are logging in via ldap this is unlikely... Will wait until she replies... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 19 July 2013 16:49 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fwd:[Forum XCW] Upgrading to v2.0 and user files (Installation) I suspect they haven't changed the paths in site details or via management? e.g. The database knows about the projects but not the filesystem? If it's not that then perhaps different usernames? Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 19 July 2013 16:24 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fwd:[Forum XCW] Upgrading to v2.0 and user files (Installation) Strange one on forum... After upgrade to v2 users cant see their LOs in workspaces but admin can in management... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII -------- Original message -------- Subject: [Forum XCW] Upgrading to v2.0 and user files (Installation) From: Forum XCW To: "Smith, John" CC: A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW Message Subject : Upgrading to v2.0 and user files Category : Installation Posted by : Kalle URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=2&id=89&mesid=429&Itemid=207&lang=en Message : ----- Yes, I can see users. Yes, I can see LOs listed when I click User Templates I click on a learner object and I can view information about the object. I can click on the Properties link and see a new window with properties in it. I cannot preview or edit it. Edit gives me permission denied which is expected. ----- You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 22 09:27:31 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:27:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) In-Reply-To: References: <44c427dadea2edae4511e65a240799ed@www.xerte.org.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7ACE3294@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > Last thing... is there any plans for a Wiki? I'd like to get some of this information in my head and from the Forums in a place which we can build into a useful repositorty - the Forum is great but some posts can go on for a while (the Media Upload error one) and it was a relatively easy fix in the end but people may not want to wade through 60 or more pages to find the answer... thoughts? Start writing it down somewhere, and then it can go where's most appropriate, but don't wait to start writing it down! -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 21 July 2013 10:12 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) Importance: High Hi, This is probably mainly for Tom or Inge (but I would welcome input and thoughts from others) but this message below from the Forum didn't actually make it onto the forum so it must be stuck somewhere (like one previous that I reported)... not sure if you can investigate this or do anything to prevent it happening but it would be good if it could appear in the sequence as it may contain useful info... Also, I've been on the forum a lot lately as I know some of you are not around or are busy. I've been getting an annoying white page error very often when clicking [Reply] why often disappears when I click refresh but occasionally it can take several tries (even using Shift-F5 in Chrome to ignore the cache...). Again not sure if that is something you can trace an fix but it could put people off... Last thing... is there any plans for a Wiki? I'd like to get some of this information in my head and from the Forums in a place which we can build into a useful repositorty - the Forum is great but some posts can go on for a while (the Media Upload error one) and it was a relatively easy fix in the end but people may not want to wade through 60 or more pages to find the answer... thoughts? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: Forum XCW [forum at xerte.org.uk] Sent: 21 July 2013 06:31 To: Smith, John Subject: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW Message Subject : Title bar and footer missing from display Category : Bugs and Issues Posted by : Mark Gallagher URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=90&mesid=434&Itemid=207&lang=en Message : ----- Hi John, No Joy yet! I was following your instructions wrong first time trying to view Dev mode. Rechecked and found the error also: Uncaught ReferenceError: geovisit is not defined. I called Yahoo tech support, They said my site stats are set to off and they didn't see any errors on there side in their error logs. I took the tech rep through the same process. She had the same result, no title or footer bar and also received the same error. I only get this error using the xerte template I don't even see a reference to geovisit...they didn't seem to know what that was either. humph! I'll keep checking different settings. Any thoughts are appreciated Thanks Mark ----- You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jul 22 20:14:36 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:14:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fwd:[Forum XCW] Upgrading to v2.0 and user files (Installation) In-Reply-To: References: <02e801ce8497$86eb2a90$94c17fb0$@co.uk> Message-ID: The script could die before then, possibly Possible CSS craziness Possible file path issues leading to crazy config errors Database access on different ip ranges in the user table On 21 Jul 2013, at 10:23, "Smith, John" wrote: > Thanks Ron, > > Sorry, don't think I ever replied to you... Those were the only two things that I could really thing of too - I assumed that when she said that users couldn't see their data that she meant in Workspace (but I have now asked her to clarify this)... if this is the case though then I figured that this could only happen if the usernames were different - but since they are logging in via ldap this is unlikely... > > Will wait until she replies... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 19 July 2013 16:49 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fwd:[Forum XCW] Upgrading to v2.0 and user files (Installation) > > I suspect they haven't changed the paths in site details or via management? e.g. The database knows about the projects but not the filesystem? > > If it's not that then perhaps different usernames? > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 19 July 2013 16:24 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fwd:[Forum XCW] Upgrading to v2.0 and user files (Installation) > > Strange one on forum... > > After upgrade to v2 users cant see their LOs in workspaces but admin can in management... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > -------- Original message -------- > Subject: [Forum XCW] Upgrading to v2.0 and user files (Installation) > From: Forum XCW > To: "Smith, John" > CC: > > > > A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW > > Message Subject : Upgrading to v2.0 and user files Category : Installation Posted by : Kalle > > URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=2&id=89&mesid=429&Itemid=207&lang=en > > Message : > ----- > Yes, I can see users. > Yes, I can see LOs listed when I click User Templates I click on a learner object and I can view information about the object. I can click on the Properties link and see a new window with properties in it. I cannot preview or edit it. 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Or is there a way to do this so that the new template takes most of its information from the parent template, with only the changes required made in the new template itself? Once I've sorted this out I'd be happy to write it up, but I can't see where documentation is stored? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 24 16:02:41 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:02:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Bootstrap CSS In-Reply-To: <7C9E8F9FE45741B8B8E72625315C62F8@wyversolutions.co.uk> References: <7C9E8F9FE45741B8B8E72625315C62F8@wyversolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665301@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Oh, I did that for our install here, it?s not hard. 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Hello

doesn?t work, but

Hello

does. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 24 July 2013 14:31 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re:

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 24 July 2013 16:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Bootstrap CSS Hi all, Excuse the basic question. I want to create a new template that's based on the Bootstrap template, but with a logo in the header and different colours in the CSS. Is the best way to take a copy of modules/site/parent_templates/site, make the tweaks and then add it to modules/site/templates? Or is there a way to do this so that the new template takes most of its information from the parent template, with only the changes required made in the new template itself? Once I've sorted this out I'd be happy to write it up, but I can't see where documentation is stored? 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If I recall correctly the task was simple, but testing it to work well in all the responsive screen sizes took a bit of figuring out. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 24 July 2013 16:00 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Bootstrap CSS > > Hi all, > > > > Excuse the basic question. > > > > I want to create a new template that's based on the Bootstrap template, but with a logo in the header and different colours in the CSS. > > > > Is the best way to take a copy of modules/site/parent_templates/site, make the tweaks and then add it to modules/site/templates? > > > > Or is there a way to do this so that the new template takes most of its information from the parent template, with only the changes required made in the new template itself? > > > > Once I've sorted this out I'd be happy to write it up, but I can't see where documentation is stored? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: play.php Type: application/octet-stream Size: 5565 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 24 16:23:07 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:23:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Bootstrap CSS In-Reply-To: References: <7C9E8F9FE45741B8B8E72625315C62F8@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B66531A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665351@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The php goes in modules/site and the css in modules/site/parent_templates/site/common/css As usual back up existing files. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 24 July 2013 16:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Bootstrap CSS Thanks Julian, Again, basic question - but where do these files go? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Wednesday, 24 July 2013 at 16:11, Julian Tenney wrote: The files from our install are attached. If I recall correctly the task was simple, but testing it to work well in all the responsive screen sizes took a bit of figuring out. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 24 July 2013 16:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Bootstrap CSS Hi all, Excuse the basic question. I want to create a new template that's based on the Bootstrap template, but with a logo in the header and different colours in the CSS. Is the best way to take a copy of modules/site/parent_templates/site, make the tweaks and then add it to modules/site/templates? Or is there a way to do this so that the new template takes most of its information from the parent template, with only the changes required made in the new template itself? Once I've sorted this out I'd be happy to write it up, but I can't see where documentation is stored? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 24 16:38:35 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:38:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: [Xerte] Query about Xerte https access In-Reply-To: <1634ED172869FD438137CCBBD48669C30978D420@AEXCMBS02.network.uni> References: <1634ED172869FD438137CCBBD48669C30978D420@AEXCMBS02.network.uni> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665375@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I've forwarded this to the dev list for rumination. Thanks. Sounds like something we need to sort out, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jamie Wood Sent: 24 July 2013 16:36 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: Joss Winn Subject: [Xerte] Query about Xerte https access Hi, We're running a Xerte project here at Lincoln and have come across a problem with Chrome (and other browsers) running Xerte over https. I've copied over a query from our Centre for Educational Research and Development below about this technical issue. Can anyone help with this and the questions in the paragraphs within the dotted lines below? ------------ The issue seems to be that Chrome has a problem with running Xerte securely over https. It says that although https is turned on on our server, some of the files are non-securely 'leaking' over http. It seems to be especially strict about this, compared to other browsers. If I turn off https altogether and, this is key, remove all cookies and browsing history from Chrome, then it performs perfectly OK over http. The problem we have is that to use university logins, we need to run it over https, and if the tool is going to be used by 100+ people, this is by far the preferred method of login. Jamie, please could you write to the mailing list, copying me in, reporting this problem and asking for advice? How are other institutions running it successfully over https? Why is Xerte serving certain files over http, when https is being requested? This seems like a bug and a security issue with Xerte to me. ------------------- Bests Jamie Dr Jamie Wood Lecturer in History, School of Humanities, University of Lincoln, Brayford Pool, Lincoln LN6 7TS Email: jwood at lincoln.ac.uk Tel.: +44(0)1522 837389 Website: http://staff.lincoln.ac.uk/jwood Twitter: @woodjamie99 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Wed Jul 24 16:48:18 2013 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:48:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Bootstrap CSS In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665351@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7C9E8F9FE45741B8B8E72625315C62F8@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B66531A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665351@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks, So does that mean we can only have one Bootstrap template at once? What if I needed to use a different style sheet for different projects? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Wednesday, 24 July 2013 at 16:23, Julian Tenney wrote: > The php goes in modules/site and the css in modules/site/parent_templates/site/common/css > > As usual back up existing files. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 24 July 2013 16:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Bootstrap CSS > > Thanks Julian, > > > Again, basic question - but where do these files go? > > > > Mark > > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > On Wednesday, 24 July 2013 at 16:11, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > The files from our install are attached. If I recall correctly the task was simple, but testing it to work well in all the responsive screen sizes took a bit of figuring out. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > Sent: 24 July 2013 16:00 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Bootstrap CSS > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excuse the basic question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to create a new template that's based on the Bootstrap template, but with a logo in the header and different colours in the CSS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the best way to take a copy of modules/site/parent_templates/site, make the tweaks and then add it to modules/site/templates? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or is there a way to do this so that the new template takes most of its information from the parent template, with only the changes required made in the new template itself? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once I've sorted this out I'd be happy to write it up, but I can't see where documentation is stored? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jul 24 16:49:55 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:49:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Bootstrap CSS In-Reply-To: References: <7C9E8F9FE45741B8B8E72625315C62F8@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B66531A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665351@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B66538C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Load a different stylesheet for each project using the stylesheet optional property: [cid:image001.png at 01CE888D.D2DC1CD0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 24 July 2013 16:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Bootstrap CSS Thanks, So does that mean we can only have one Bootstrap template at once? What if I needed to use a different style sheet for different projects? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Wednesday, 24 July 2013 at 16:23, Julian Tenney wrote: The php goes in modules/site and the css in modules/site/parent_templates/site/common/css As usual back up existing files. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 24 July 2013 16:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Bootstrap CSS Thanks Julian, Again, basic question - but where do these files go? Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Wednesday, 24 July 2013 at 16:11, Julian Tenney wrote: The files from our install are attached. If I recall correctly the task was simple, but testing it to work well in all the responsive screen sizes took a bit of figuring out. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy Sent: 24 July 2013 16:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Bootstrap CSS Hi all, Excuse the basic question. I want to create a new template that's based on the Bootstrap template, but with a logo in the header and different colours in the CSS. Is the best way to take a copy of modules/site/parent_templates/site, make the tweaks and then add it to modules/site/templates? Or is there a way to do this so that the new template takes most of its information from the parent template, with only the changes required made in the new template itself? Once I've sorted this out I'd be happy to write it up, but I can't see where documentation is stored? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 92440 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Jul 24 16:53:35 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:53:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: [Xerte] Query about Xerte https access In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665375@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <1634ED172869FD438137CCBBD48669C30978D420@AEXCMBS02.network.uni> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665375@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <96D96DFF-6590-4BFE-ADFF-BE0185A291D6@pgogywebstuff.com> Sounds like problem is data entry On 24 Jul 2013, at 16:38, Julian Tenney wrote: > I've forwarded this to the dev list for rumination. Thanks. Sounds like something we need to sort out, > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jamie Wood > Sent: 24 July 2013 16:36 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Cc: Joss Winn > Subject: [Xerte] Query about Xerte https access > > Hi, > > We're running a Xerte project here at Lincoln and have come across a problem with Chrome (and other browsers) running Xerte over https. I've copied over a query from our Centre for Educational Research and Development below about this technical issue. Can anyone help with this and the questions in the paragraphs within the dotted lines below? > > ------------ > The issue seems to be that Chrome has a problem with running Xerte securely over https. It says that although https is turned on on our server, some of the files are non-securely 'leaking' over http. It seems to be especially strict about this, compared to other browsers. If I turn off https altogether and, this is key, remove all cookies and browsing history from Chrome, then it performs perfectly OK over http. > > The problem we have is that to use university logins, we need to run it over https, and if the tool is going to be used by 100+ people, this is by far the preferred method of login. > > Jamie, please could you write to the mailing list, copying me in, reporting this problem and asking for advice? How are other institutions running it successfully over https? Why is Xerte serving certain files over http, when https is being requested? This seems like a bug and a security issue with Xerte to me. > ------------------- > > > Bests > Jamie > > > Dr Jamie Wood > Lecturer in History, > School of Humanities, > University of Lincoln, > Brayford Pool, > Lincoln LN6 7TS > > Email: jwood at lincoln.ac.uk > Tel.: +44(0)1522 837389 > Website: http://staff.lincoln.ac.uk/jwood > Twitter: @woodjamie99 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk Wed Jul 24 16:53:41 2013 From: mberthelemy at wyversolutions.co.uk (Mark Berthelemy) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:53:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Bootstrap CSS In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B66538C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7C9E8F9FE45741B8B8E72625315C62F8@wyversolutions.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B66531A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665351@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B66538C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Got it. Thanks. Mark -- Mark Berthelemy Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd Tel: 01773 318 962 Mob: 07922 146 761 Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk On Wednesday, 24 July 2013 at 16:49, Julian Tenney wrote: > Load a different stylesheet for each project using the stylesheet optional property: > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > Sent: 24 July 2013 16:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Bootstrap CSS > > Thanks, > > > So does that mean we can only have one Bootstrap template at once? What if I needed to use a different style sheet for different projects? > > > > Mark > > > > > -- > > Mark Berthelemy > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > On Wednesday, 24 July 2013 at 16:23, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > The php goes in modules/site and the css in modules/site/parent_templates/site/common/css > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual back up existing files. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > Sent: 24 July 2013 16:21 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Bootstrap CSS > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Julian, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, basic question - but where do these files go? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 24 July 2013 at 16:11, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > > > The files from our install are attached. If I recall correctly the task was simple, but testing it to work well in all the responsive screen sizes took a bit of figuring out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy > > > Sent: 24 July 2013 16:00 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Bootstrap CSS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excuse the basic question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to create a new template that's based on the Bootstrap template, but with a logo in the header and different colours in the CSS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the best way to take a copy of modules/site/parent_templates/site, make the tweaks and then add it to modules/site/templates? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or is there a way to do this so that the new template takes most of its information from the parent template, with only the changes required made in the new template itself? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once I've sorted this out I'd be happy to write it up, but I can't see where documentation is stored? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Berthelemy > > > > > > > > > > > > Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel: 01773 318 962 > > > > > > > > > > > > Mob: 07922 146 761 > > > > > > > > > > > > Web: www.wyversolutions.co.uk (http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So, I'm throwing this back out to the community - does anyone have XP/IE8 or Win7/IE8 and could test this and try to reproduce the collapsed accordion view that Nick is experiencing? You can use this to try http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560?page=24 Thanks in advance!! Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 19:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Ok. Be in touch early next week. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: Well the whole accordion is pretty much permanently collapsed...no pane visible and tabs inactive. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 18:15 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick No worries. That would be ideal i think we can cope without... i already have an idea of what needs patching to fix the issue... Just to be 100% sure i have identified the issue - it is the collapsed accordion, not taking up the full height of the window that is the issue, in ie only? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: Hi John Unfortunately it's not public...I'd need to speak to our infrastructure folk next week but unlikely to be a priority for them! Nick ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 17:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick, No apology necessary - we're delighted when our users find bugs and tell us about them so that we can fix them for all - any misunderstanding was mostly my fault for not listening properly!! I doubt those tags that you've spotted have caused this although I can see why you might think that as they are a big change from what was there before - as you can see from the revisions over 450 code changes have gone on between those two versions so it's highly likely that something has been missed when updating the preview versions (v1.9) to the final page models... What would really help would be to have access to an LO (if that server is public) that exhibits this problem so that I might try to trace the issue. If you are able to give me access to than then you can email off list. Alternatively, I'll see what I can come up with by trial and error... Thanks again for your patience and I'll be in touch... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:51 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Screenshots both Chrome which is fine but version on left doesn't render properly in IE8. See earlier screenshot. Would dig it out but on mobile now! Thanks for help and sorry not to be clear Nick ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 16:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Ah ok, sorry, I understand now, the code was changed in order to allow IE9 and 10 to render HTML5 which it doesn?t inv1.9 as it only runs in IE8 compatibility mode ? so it?s possible things could be different? I?m looking at the screenshots though so wondering what it is that you can see that I can?t that is not rendering properly? I can only see the scrollbar difference? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:24 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi John XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) is the one installed for me at the University and is displaying the code?but this is also the one not rendering correctly in IE8 which is confounding me. My own install renders OK in IE8 (though no header code) and is - Xerte Online Toolkits v1.9 (from SVN rev 601 http://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits) Nick From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 26 July 2013 16:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick, Check the version of the one that is displaying the code? it is not optional in any way, it is hardwired into the template so the two installs must be at different revisions? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:54 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Thanks John IE v 8.0 and XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) Screenshot attached?apologies but actually missing header code on my install (which works) not institutional. Nick From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 26 July 2013 15:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick, What version of IE are you using and what Revision of xot (you can find that at /version.txt)? I tested the player in IE6-10 recently and didn?t identify any problems with the new header code, but this was only added recently so you may not have it yet, if you get the XOT v2 update package on the Community Website then it is in? For information, IE conditionals should only be adding some classes to those IE versions that may require CSS patching, but I?ve only added them up until IE9 I think. IE10 has always been rendering the LOs fine as far as I?m aware. To force IE10 standards mode, the correct DOCTYPE tag is as you specified, (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/hh779632.aspx) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:12 PM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] IE bug Think I?ve spotted what?s causing my IE bug? [If IE] statements are missing from Any idea why? Thanks Nick Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IE8 - Accordian Navigator bug.PNG Type: image/png Size: 749577 bytes Desc: IE8 - Accordian Navigator bug.PNG URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This page has an accordion and is v2 latest revision so if people with Win7/IE8 (unlikely) or Vista/IE8 or XP/IE8 can test then i'd be very grateful http://xerte.smitcher.com/play.php?template_id=6 Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 27 July 2013 12:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Cheers Dave, Yeah, I'm at a bit of a loss just now... Nick's install is really close to latest trunk, something like R1047 (we're only at R1067 right now...), so it's not that old... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 27 July 2013 12:11 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug IE 8.0.6001.19443 Win Vista 6.0 Build 6002 SP2 Functions as expected. From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:49:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick, Ok, i've had a look at this this morning and I can't reproduce it on IE8 so i'm very confused... I don't have IE8 installed but used BrowserStack.com, as I always do, for backward compatibility testing, which i've always found very reliable. I've also tried locally on IE10 (but using the dev tools to force IE8 mode). I've attached the screenshots to to show you - I tested IE8 in both XP and Win7 on BrowserStack (only the Win7/IE8 screenshot attached) and locally on Win7/IE10[IE8 Mode] and I can't reproduce and it seems that the code is working... So, I'm throwing this back out to the community - does anyone have XP/IE8 or Win7/IE8 and could test this and try to reproduce the collapsed accordion view that Nick is experiencing? You can use this to try http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560?page=24 Thanks in advance!! Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 19:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Ok. Be in touch early next week. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: Well the whole accordion is pretty much permanently collapsed...no pane visible and tabs inactive. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 18:15 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick No worries. That would be ideal i think we can cope without... i already have an idea of what needs patching to fix the issue... Just to be 100% sure i have identified the issue - it is the collapsed accordion, not taking up the full height of the window that is the issue, in ie only? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: Hi John Unfortunately it's not public...I'd need to speak to our infrastructure folk next week but unlikely to be a priority for them! Nick ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 17:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick, No apology necessary - we're delighted when our users find bugs and tell us about them so that we can fix them for all - any misunderstanding was mostly my fault for not listening properly!! I doubt those tags that you've spotted have caused this although I can see why you might think that as they are a big change from what was there before - as you can see from the revisions over 450 code changes have gone on between those two versions so it's highly likely that something has been missed when updating the preview versions (v1.9) to the final page models... What would really help would be to have access to an LO (if that server is public) that exhibits this problem so that I might try to trace the issue. If you are able to give me access to than then you can email off list. Alternatively, I'll see what I can come up with by trial and error... Thanks again for your patience and I'll be in touch... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:51 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Screenshots both Chrome which is fine but version on left doesn't render properly in IE8. See earlier screenshot. Would dig it out but on mobile now! Thanks for help and sorry not to be clear Nick ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 16:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Ah ok, sorry, I understand now, the code was changed in order to allow IE9 and 10 to render HTML5 which it doesn?t inv1.9 as it only runs in IE8 compatibility mode ? so it?s possible things could be different? I?m looking at the screenshots though so wondering what it is that you can see that I can?t that is not rendering properly? I can only see the scrollbar difference? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:24 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi John XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) is the one installed for me at the University and is displaying the code?but this is also the one not rendering correctly in IE8 which is confounding me. My own install renders OK in IE8 (though no header code) and is - Xerte Online Toolkits v1.9 (from SVN rev 601 http://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits) Nick From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 26 July 2013 16:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick, Check the version of the one that is displaying the code? it is not optional in any way, it is hardwired into the template so the two installs must be at different revisions? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:54 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Thanks John IE v 8.0 and XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) Screenshot attached?apologies but actually missing header code on my install (which works) not institutional. Nick From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 26 July 2013 15:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick, What version of IE are you using and what Revision of xot (you can find that at /version.txt)? I tested the player in IE6-10 recently and didn?t identify any problems with the new header code, but this was only added recently so you may not have it yet, if you get the XOT v2 update package on the Community Website then it is in? For information, IE conditionals should only be adding some classes to those IE versions that may require CSS patching, but I?ve only added them up until IE9 I think. IE10 has always been rendering the LOs fine as far as I?m aware. To force IE10 standards mode, the correct DOCTYPE tag is as you specified, (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/hh779632.aspx) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:12 PM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] IE bug Think I?ve spotted what?s causing my IE bug? [If IE] statements are missing from Any idea why? Thanks Nick Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Jul 27 13:46:00 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:46:00 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , Message-ID: IE 8.0.6001.19443 Win Vista 6.0 Build 6002 SP2 Functions as expected. > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:37:53 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Ahh wait, the Nottingham install appears to still be v1.9 and that has been confirmed to work by Nick... > > This page has an accordion and is v2 latest revision so if people with Win7/IE8 (unlikely) or Vista/IE8 or XP/IE8 can test then i'd be very grateful http://xerte.smitcher.com/play.php?template_id=6 > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 27 July 2013 12:27 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Cheers Dave, > > Yeah, I'm at a bit of a loss just now... Nick's install is really close to latest trunk, something like R1047 (we're only at R1067 right now...), so it's not that old... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 27 July 2013 12:11 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > IE 8.0.6001.19443 > Win Vista 6.0 Build 6002 SP2 > > Functions as expected. > > > > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:49:20 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > Hi Nick, > > Ok, i've had a look at this this morning and I can't reproduce it on IE8 so i'm very confused... > > I don't have IE8 installed but used BrowserStack.com, as I always do, for backward compatibility testing, which i've always found very reliable. I've also tried locally on IE10 (but using the dev tools to force IE8 mode). > > I've attached the screenshots to to show you - I tested IE8 in both XP and Win7 on BrowserStack (only the Win7/IE8 screenshot attached) and locally on Win7/IE10[IE8 Mode] and I can't reproduce and it seems that the code is working... > > So, I'm throwing this back out to the community - does anyone have XP/IE8 or Win7/IE8 and could test this and try to reproduce the collapsed accordion view that Nick is experiencing? You can use this to try http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560?page=24 > > Thanks in advance!! > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 19:04 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Ok. Be in touch early next week. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: > > > Well the whole accordion is pretty much permanently collapsed...no pane visible and tabs inactive. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 18:15 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick > > No worries. That would be ideal i think we can cope without... i already have an idea of what needs patching to fix the issue... > > Just to be 100% sure i have identified the issue - it is the collapsed accordion, not taking up the full height of the window that is the issue, in ie only? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: > > > Hi John > > Unfortunately it's not public...I'd need to speak to our infrastructure folk next week but unlikely to be a priority for them! > > Nick > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 17:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick, > > No apology necessary - we're delighted when our users find bugs and tell us about them so that we can fix them for all - any misunderstanding was mostly my fault for not listening properly!! > > I doubt those tags that you've spotted have caused this although I can see why you might think that as they are a big change from what was there before - as you can see from the revisions over 450 code changes have gone on between those two versions so it's highly likely that something has been missed when updating the preview versions (v1.9) to the final page models... > > What would really help would be to have access to an LO (if that server is public) that exhibits this problem so that I might try to trace the issue. If you are able to give me access to than then you can email off list. Alternatively, I'll see what I can come up with by trial and error... > > Thanks again for your patience and I'll be in touch... > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:51 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Screenshots both Chrome which is fine but version on left doesn't render properly in IE8. See earlier screenshot. Would dig it out but on mobile now! > > Thanks for help and sorry not to be clear > > Nick > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 16:34 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Ah ok, sorry, I understand now, the code was changed in order to allow IE9 and 10 to render HTML5 which it doesn?t inv1.9 as it only runs in IE8 compatibility mode ? so it?s possible things could be different? > > I?m looking at the screenshots though so wondering what it is that you can see that I can?t that is not rendering properly? I can only see the scrollbar difference? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:24 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi John > > XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) is the one installed for me at the University and is displaying the code?but this is also the one not rendering correctly in IE8 which is confounding me. > > My own install renders OK in IE8 (though no header code) and is - Xerte Online Toolkits v1.9 (from SVN rev 601 http://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits) > > Nick > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 26 July 2013 16:09 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick, > > Check the version of the one that is displaying the code? it is not optional in any way, it is hardwired into the template so the two installs must be at different revisions? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:54 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Thanks John > > IE v 8.0 and XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) > > Screenshot attached?apologies but actually missing header code on my install (which works) not institutional. > > Nick > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 26 July 2013 15:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick, > > What version of IE are you using and what Revision of xot (you can find that at /version.txt)? > > I tested the player in IE6-10 recently and didn?t identify any problems with the new header code, but this was only added recently so you may not have it yet, if you get the XOT v2 update package on the Community Website then it is in? > > For information, IE conditionals should only be adding some classes to those IE versions that may require CSS patching, but I?ve only added them up until IE9 I think. IE10 has always been rendering the LOs fine as far as I?m aware. > > To force IE10 standards mode, the correct DOCTYPE tag is as you specified, (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/hh779632.aspx) > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:12 PM > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] IE bug > > Think I?ve spotted what?s causing my IE bug? [If IE] statements are missing from > > Any idea why? > > Thanks > > Nick > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Jul 27 13:49:54 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:49:54 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , , , , , , Message-ID: Should you be able to collapse all the panes to a bar?Or is there always a pane open by default?i.e. you would normally expect the expansion arrow to work in both directions, but it only opens panes, it doesn't close them. From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:46:00 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug IE 8.0.6001.19443 Win Vista 6.0 Build 6002 SP2 Functions as expected. > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:37:53 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Ahh wait, the Nottingham install appears to still be v1.9 and that has been confirmed to work by Nick... > > This page has an accordion and is v2 latest revision so if people with Win7/IE8 (unlikely) or Vista/IE8 or XP/IE8 can test then i'd be very grateful http://xerte.smitcher.com/play.php?template_id=6 > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 27 July 2013 12:27 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Cheers Dave, > > Yeah, I'm at a bit of a loss just now... Nick's install is really close to latest trunk, something like R1047 (we're only at R1067 right now...), so it's not that old... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 27 July 2013 12:11 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > IE 8.0.6001.19443 > Win Vista 6.0 Build 6002 SP2 > > Functions as expected. > > > > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:49:20 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > Hi Nick, > > Ok, i've had a look at this this morning and I can't reproduce it on IE8 so i'm very confused... > > I don't have IE8 installed but used BrowserStack.com, as I always do, for backward compatibility testing, which i've always found very reliable. I've also tried locally on IE10 (but using the dev tools to force IE8 mode). > > I've attached the screenshots to to show you - I tested IE8 in both XP and Win7 on BrowserStack (only the Win7/IE8 screenshot attached) and locally on Win7/IE10[IE8 Mode] and I can't reproduce and it seems that the code is working... > > So, I'm throwing this back out to the community - does anyone have XP/IE8 or Win7/IE8 and could test this and try to reproduce the collapsed accordion view that Nick is experiencing? You can use this to try http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560?page=24 > > Thanks in advance!! > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 19:04 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Ok. Be in touch early next week. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: > > > Well the whole accordion is pretty much permanently collapsed...no pane visible and tabs inactive. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 18:15 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick > > No worries. That would be ideal i think we can cope without... i already have an idea of what needs patching to fix the issue... > > Just to be 100% sure i have identified the issue - it is the collapsed accordion, not taking up the full height of the window that is the issue, in ie only? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: > > > Hi John > > Unfortunately it's not public...I'd need to speak to our infrastructure folk next week but unlikely to be a priority for them! > > Nick > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 17:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick, > > No apology necessary - we're delighted when our users find bugs and tell us about them so that we can fix them for all - any misunderstanding was mostly my fault for not listening properly!! > > I doubt those tags that you've spotted have caused this although I can see why you might think that as they are a big change from what was there before - as you can see from the revisions over 450 code changes have gone on between those two versions so it's highly likely that something has been missed when updating the preview versions (v1.9) to the final page models... > > What would really help would be to have access to an LO (if that server is public) that exhibits this problem so that I might try to trace the issue. If you are able to give me access to than then you can email off list. Alternatively, I'll see what I can come up with by trial and error... > > Thanks again for your patience and I'll be in touch... > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:51 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Screenshots both Chrome which is fine but version on left doesn't render properly in IE8. See earlier screenshot. Would dig it out but on mobile now! > > Thanks for help and sorry not to be clear > > Nick > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 16:34 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Ah ok, sorry, I understand now, the code was changed in order to allow IE9 and 10 to render HTML5 which it doesn?t inv1.9 as it only runs in IE8 compatibility mode ? so it?s possible things could be different? > > I?m looking at the screenshots though so wondering what it is that you can see that I can?t that is not rendering properly? I can only see the scrollbar difference? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:24 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi John > > XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) is the one installed for me at the University and is displaying the code?but this is also the one not rendering correctly in IE8 which is confounding me. > > My own install renders OK in IE8 (though no header code) and is - Xerte Online Toolkits v1.9 (from SVN rev 601 http://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits) > > Nick > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 26 July 2013 16:09 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick, > > Check the version of the one that is displaying the code? it is not optional in any way, it is hardwired into the template so the two installs must be at different revisions? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:54 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Thanks John > > IE v 8.0 and XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) > > Screenshot attached?apologies but actually missing header code on my install (which works) not institutional. > > Nick > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 26 July 2013 15:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick, > > What version of IE are you using and what Revision of xot (you can find that at /version.txt)? > > I tested the player in IE6-10 recently and didn?t identify any problems with the new header code, but this was only added recently so you may not have it yet, if you get the XOT v2 update package on the Community Website then it is in? > > For information, IE conditionals should only be adding some classes to those IE versions that may require CSS patching, but I?ve only added them up until IE9 I think. IE10 has always been rendering the LOs fine as far as I?m aware. > > To force IE10 standards mode, the correct DOCTYPE tag is as you specified, (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/hh779632.aspx) > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:12 PM > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] IE bug > > Think I?ve spotted what?s causing my IE bug? [If IE] statements are missing from > > Any idea why? > > Thanks > > Nick > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sat Jul 27 14:31:25 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:31:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Message-ID: No the first is always open by default by design... I'm sure that Julian figured that a completely collapsed accordion might confuse more... You often see this style in desktop applications. You can't have fixed height but have them all collapse - one has to take up the remaining height... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett wrote: Should you be able to collapse all the panes to a bar? Or is there always a pane open by default? i.e. you would normally expect the expansion arrow to work in both directions, but it only opens panes, it doesn't close them. ________________________________ From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:46:00 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug IE 8.0.6001.19443 Win Vista 6.0 Build 6002 SP2 Functions as expected. > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:37:53 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Ahh wait, the Nottingham install appears to still be v1.9 and that has been confirmed to work by Nick... > > This page has an accordion and is v2 latest revision so if people with Win7/IE8 (unlikely) or Vista/IE8 or XP/IE8 can test then i'd be very grateful http://xerte.smitcher.com/play.php?template_id=6 > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 27 July 2013 12:27 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Cheers Dave, > > Yeah, I'm at a bit of a loss just now... Nick's install is really close to latest trunk, something like R1047 (we're only at R1067 right now...), so it's not that old... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 27 July 2013 12:11 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > IE 8.0.6001.19443 > Win Vista 6.0 Build 6002 SP2 > > Functions as expected. > > > > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:49:20 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > Hi Nick, > > Ok, i've had a look at this this morning and I can't reproduce it on IE8 so i'm very confused... > > I don't have IE8 installed but used BrowserStack.com, as I always do, for backward compatibility testing, which i've always found very reliable. I've also tried locally on IE10 (but using the dev tools to force IE8 mode). > > I've attached the screenshots to to show you - I tested IE8 in both XP and Win7 on BrowserStack (only the Win7/IE8 screenshot attached) and locally on Win7/IE10[IE8 Mode] and I can't reproduce and it seems that the code is working... > > So, I'm throwing this back out to the community - does anyone have XP/IE8 or Win7/IE8 and could test this and try to reproduce the collapsed accordion view that Nick is experiencing? You can use this to try http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560?page=24 > > Thanks in advance!! > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 19:04 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Ok. Be in touch early next week. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: > > > Well the whole accordion is pretty much permanently collapsed...no pane visible and tabs inactive. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 18:15 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick > > No worries. That would be ideal i think we can cope without... i already have an idea of what needs patching to fix the issue... > > Just to be 100% sure i have identified the issue - it is the collapsed accordion, not taking up the full height of the window that is the issue, in ie only? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: > > > Hi John > > Unfortunately it's not public...I'd need to speak to our infrastructure folk next week but unlikely to be a priority for them! > > Nick > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 17:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick, > > No apology necessary - we're delighted when our users find bugs and tell us about them so that we can fix them for all - any misunderstanding was mostly my fault for not listening properly!! > > I doubt those tags that you've spotted have caused this although I can see why you might think that as they are a big change from what was there before - as you can see from the revisions over 450 code changes have gone on between those two versions so it's highly likely that something has been missed when updating the preview versions (v1.9) to the final page models... > > What would really help would be to have access to an LO (if that server is public) that exhibits this problem so that I might try to trace the issue. If you are able to give me access to than then you can email off list. Alternatively, I'll see what I can come up with by trial and error... > > Thanks again for your patience and I'll be in touch... > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:51 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Screenshots both Chrome which is fine but version on left doesn't render properly in IE8. See earlier screenshot. Would dig it out but on mobile now! > > Thanks for help and sorry not to be clear > > Nick > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2013 16:34 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Ah ok, sorry, I understand now, the code was changed in order to allow IE9 and 10 to render HTML5 which it doesn?t inv1.9 as it only runs in IE8 compatibility mode ? so it?s possible things could be different? > > I?m looking at the screenshots though so wondering what it is that you can see that I can?t that is not rendering properly? I can only see the scrollbar difference? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:24 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi John > > XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) is the one installed for me at the University and is displaying the code?but this is also the one not rendering correctly in IE8 which is confounding me. > > My own install renders OK in IE8 (though no header code) and is - Xerte Online Toolkits v1.9 (from SVN rev 601 http://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits) > > Nick > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 26 July 2013 16:09 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick, > > Check the version of the one that is displaying the code? it is not optional in any way, it is hardwired into the template so the two installs must be at different revisions? > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:54 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Thanks John > > IE v 8.0 and XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) > > Screenshot attached?apologies but actually missing header code on my install (which works) not institutional. > > Nick > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 26 July 2013 15:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > Hi Nick, > > What version of IE are you using and what Revision of xot (you can find that at /version.txt)? > > I tested the player in IE6-10 recently and didn?t identify any problems with the new header code, but this was only added recently so you may not have it yet, if you get the XOT v2 update package on the Community Website then it is in? > > For information, IE conditionals should only be adding some classes to those IE versions that may require CSS patching, but I?ve only added them up until IE9 I think. IE10 has always been rendering the LOs fine as far as I?m aware. > > To force IE10 standards mode, the correct DOCTYPE tag is as you specified, (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/hh779632.aspx) > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:12 PM > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] IE bug > > Think I?ve spotted what?s causing my IE bug? [If IE] statements are missing from > > Any idea why? > > Thanks > > Nick > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Jul 27 15:08:07 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:08:07 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We need a tree-view. ;-) > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:31:25 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > No the first is always open by default by design... I'm sure that Julian figured that a completely collapsed accordion might confuse more... > > You often see this style in desktop applications. You can't have fixed height but have them all collapse - one has to take up the remaining height... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > Dave Burnett wrote: > > > Should you be able to collapse all the panes to a bar? > Or is there always a pane open by default? > i.e. you would normally expect the expansion arrow to work in both directions, but it only opens panes, it doesn't close them. > > > ________________________________ > From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:46:00 -0400 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > IE 8.0.6001.19443 > Win Vista 6.0 Build 6002 SP2 > > Functions as expected. > > > > > > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:37:53 +0100 > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > Ahh wait, the Nottingham install appears to still be v1.9 and that has been confirmed to work by Nick... > > > > This page has an accordion and is v2 latest revision so if people with Win7/IE8 (unlikely) or Vista/IE8 or XP/IE8 can test then i'd be very grateful http://xerte.smitcher.com/play.php?template_id=6 > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > > Sent: 27 July 2013 12:27 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > Cheers Dave, > > > > Yeah, I'm at a bit of a loss just now... Nick's install is really close to latest trunk, something like R1047 (we're only at R1067 right now...), so it's not that old... > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > > Sent: 27 July 2013 12:11 > > To: Xerte list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > IE 8.0.6001.19443 > > Win Vista 6.0 Build 6002 SP2 > > > > Functions as expected. > > > > > > > > From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:49:20 +0100 > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > > > Hi Nick, > > > > Ok, i've had a look at this this morning and I can't reproduce it on IE8 so i'm very confused... > > > > I don't have IE8 installed but used BrowserStack.com, as I always do, for backward compatibility testing, which i've always found very reliable. I've also tried locally on IE10 (but using the dev tools to force IE8 mode). > > > > I've attached the screenshots to to show you - I tested IE8 in both XP and Win7 on BrowserStack (only the Win7/IE8 screenshot attached) and locally on Win7/IE10[IE8 Mode] and I can't reproduce and it seems that the code is working... > > > > So, I'm throwing this back out to the community - does anyone have XP/IE8 or Win7/IE8 and could test this and try to reproduce the collapsed accordion view that Nick is experiencing? You can use this to try http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560?page=24 > > > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > > Sent: 26 July 2013 19:04 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > Ok. Be in touch early next week. > > > > Regards > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health and Life Sciences > > > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > > > "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: > > > > > > Well the whole accordion is pretty much permanently collapsed...no pane visible and tabs inactive. > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > > Sent: 26 July 2013 18:15 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > Hi Nick > > > > No worries. That would be ideal i think we can cope without... i already have an idea of what needs patching to fix the issue... > > > > Just to be 100% sure i have identified the issue - it is the collapsed accordion, not taking up the full height of the window that is the issue, in ie only? > > > > Regards > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health and Life Sciences > > > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > > > > > "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: > > > > > > Hi John > > > > Unfortunately it's not public...I'd need to speak to our infrastructure folk next week but unlikely to be a priority for them! > > > > Nick > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > > Sent: 26 July 2013 17:06 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > Hi Nick, > > > > No apology necessary - we're delighted when our users find bugs and tell us about them so that we can fix them for all - any misunderstanding was mostly my fault for not listening properly!! > > > > I doubt those tags that you've spotted have caused this although I can see why you might think that as they are a big change from what was there before - as you can see from the revisions over 450 code changes have gone on between those two versions so it's highly likely that something has been missed when updating the preview versions (v1.9) to the final page models... > > > > What would really help would be to have access to an LO (if that server is public) that exhibits this problem so that I might try to trace the issue. If you are able to give me access to than then you can email off list. Alternatively, I'll see what I can come up with by trial and error... > > > > Thanks again for your patience and I'll be in touch... > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:51 PM > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > Screenshots both Chrome which is fine but version on left doesn't render properly in IE8. See earlier screenshot. Would dig it out but on mobile now! > > > > Thanks for help and sorry not to be clear > > > > Nick > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] > > Sent: 26 July 2013 16:34 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > Ah ok, sorry, I understand now, the code was changed in order to allow IE9 and 10 to render HTML5 which it doesn?t inv1.9 as it only runs in IE8 compatibility mode ? so it?s possible things could be different? > > > > I?m looking at the screenshots though so wondering what it is that you can see that I can?t that is not rendering properly? I can only see the scrollbar difference? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:24 PM > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > Hi John > > > > XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) is the one installed for me at the University and is displaying the code?but this is also the one not rendering correctly in IE8 which is confounding me. > > > > My own install renders OK in IE8 (though no header code) and is - Xerte Online Toolkits v1.9 (from SVN rev 601 http://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits) > > > > Nick > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 26 July 2013 16:09 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > Hi Nick, > > > > Check the version of the one that is displaying the code? it is not optional in any way, it is hardwired into the template so the two installs must be at different revisions? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:54 PM > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > Thanks John > > > > IE v 8.0 and XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) > > > > Screenshot attached?apologies but actually missing header code on my install (which works) not institutional. > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 26 July 2013 15:43 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug > > > > Hi Nick, > > > > What version of IE are you using and what Revision of xot (you can find that at /version.txt)? > > > > I tested the player in IE6-10 recently and didn?t identify any problems with the new header code, but this was only added recently so you may not have it yet, if you get the XOT v2 update package on the Community Website then it is in? > > > > For information, IE conditionals should only be adding some classes to those IE versions that may require CSS patching, but I?ve only added them up until IE9 I think. IE10 has always been rendering the LOs fine as far as I?m aware. > > > > To force IE10 standards mode, the correct DOCTYPE tag is as you specified, (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/hh779632.aspx) > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:12 PM > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] IE bug > > > > Think I?ve spotted what?s causing my IE bug? 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Sun Jul 28 15:06:53 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:06:53 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) In-Reply-To: References: <44c427dadea2edae4511e65a240799ed@www.xerte.org.uk> Message-ID: <51F5257D.5060009@tor.nl> John, Julian, There already is a wiki installed on the community website. It was one of the first things I did. I personally find a wiki very convenient for recipe and problem fixing kinds of articles. But the information in there is not accurate and not up to date. Tom would like all kinds of information Op 21-7-2013 11:12, Smith, John schreef: > Hi, > > This is probably mainly for Tom or Inge (but I would welcome input and thoughts from others) but this message below from the Forum didn't actually make it onto the forum so it must be stuck somewhere (like one previous that I reported)... not sure if you can investigate this or do anything to prevent it happening but it would be good if it could appear in the sequence as it may contain useful info... > > Also, I've been on the forum a lot lately as I know some of you are not around or are busy. I've been getting an annoying white page error very often when clicking [Reply] why often disappears when I click refresh but occasionally it can take several tries (even using Shift-F5 in Chrome to ignore the cache...). Again not sure if that is something you can trace an fix but it could put people off... > > Last thing... is there any plans for a Wiki? I'd like to get some of this information in my head and from the Forums in a place which we can build into a useful repositorty - the Forum is great but some posts can go on for a while (the Media Upload error one) and it was a relatively easy fix in the end but people may not want to wade through 60 or more pages to find the answer... thoughts? > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: Forum XCW [forum at xerte.org.uk] > Sent: 21 July 2013 06:31 > To: Smith, John > Subject: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) > > A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW > > Message Subject : Title bar and footer missing from display > Category : Bugs and Issues > Posted by : Mark Gallagher > > URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=90&mesid=434&Itemid=207&lang=en > > Message : > ----- > Hi John, > No Joy yet! I was following your instructions wrong first time trying to view Dev mode. Rechecked and found the error also: Uncaught ReferenceError: geovisit is not defined. > I called Yahoo tech support, They said my site stats are set to off and they didn't see any errors on there side in their error logs. I took the tech rep through the same process. She had the same result, no title or footer bar and also received the same error. I only get this error using the xerte template > I don't even see a reference to geovisit...they didn't seem to know what that was either. humph! > I'll keep checking different settings. Any thoughts are appreciated > Thanks > Mark > ----- > > You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. > > Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Sun Jul 28 16:57:03 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:57:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) Message-ID: <2yrr1i9l5enpmbcv9137ijet.1375027020231@email.android.com> Great Tom. I suppose the next question is how do i access and edit it? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Tom Reijnders wrote: John, Julian, There already is a wiki installed on the community website. It was one of the first things I did. I personally find a wiki very convenient for recipe and problem fixing kinds of articles. But the information in there is not accurate and not up to date. Tom would like all kinds of information Op 21-7-2013 11:12, Smith, John schreef: > Hi, > > This is probably mainly for Tom or Inge (but I would welcome input and thoughts from others) but this message below from the Forum didn't actually make it onto the forum so it must be stuck somewhere (like one previous that I reported)... not sure if you can investigate this or do anything to prevent it happening but it would be good if it could appear in the sequence as it may contain useful info... > > Also, I've been on the forum a lot lately as I know some of you are not around or are busy. I've been getting an annoying white page error very often when clicking [Reply] why often disappears when I click refresh but occasionally it can take several tries (even using Shift-F5 in Chrome to ignore the cache...). Again not sure if that is something you can trace an fix but it could put people off... > > Last thing... is there any plans for a Wiki? I'd like to get some of this information in my head and from the Forums in a place which we can build into a useful repositorty - the Forum is great but some posts can go on for a while (the Media Upload error one) and it was a relatively easy fix in the end but people may not want to wade through 60 or more pages to find the answer... thoughts? > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: Forum XCW [forum at xerte.org.uk] > Sent: 21 July 2013 06:31 > To: Smith, John > Subject: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) > > A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW > > Message Subject : Title bar and footer missing from display > Category : Bugs and Issues > Posted by : Mark Gallagher > > URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=90&mesid=434&Itemid=207&lang=en > > Message : > ----- > Hi John, > No Joy yet! I was following your instructions wrong first time trying to view Dev mode. Rechecked and found the error also: Uncaught ReferenceError: geovisit is not defined. > I called Yahoo tech support, They said my site stats are set to off and they didn't see any errors on there side in their error logs. I took the tech rep through the same process. She had the same result, no title or footer bar and also received the same error. I only get this error using the xerte template > I don't even see a reference to geovisit...they didn't seem to know what that was either. humph! > I'll keep checking different settings. Any thoughts are appreciated > Thanks > Mark > ----- > > You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. > > Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From reijnders at tor.nl Sun Jul 28 18:05:39 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:05:39 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) In-Reply-To: <2yrr1i9l5enpmbcv9137ijet.1375027020231@email.android.com> References: <2yrr1i9l5enpmbcv9137ijet.1375027020231@email.android.com> Message-ID: <51F54F63.2050203@tor.nl> www.xerte.org.uk/wiki I'll send you author login details later by PM Tom Op 28-7-2013 17:57, Smith, John schreef: > Great Tom. I suppose the next question is how do i access and edit it? > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > Tom Reijnders wrote: > > > John, Julian, > > There already is a wiki installed on the community website. It was one > of the first things I did. I personally find a wiki very convenient for > recipe and problem fixing kinds of articles. > > But the information in there is not accurate and not up to date. > > Tom > > would like all kinds of information > Op 21-7-2013 11:12, Smith, John schreef: >> Hi, >> >> This is probably mainly for Tom or Inge (but I would welcome input and thoughts from others) but this message below from the Forum didn't actually make it onto the forum so it must be stuck somewhere (like one previous that I reported)... not sure if you can investigate this or do anything to prevent it happening but it would be good if it could appear in the sequence as it may contain useful info... >> >> Also, I've been on the forum a lot lately as I know some of you are not around or are busy. I've been getting an annoying white page error very often when clicking [Reply] why often disappears when I click refresh but occasionally it can take several tries (even using Shift-F5 in Chrome to ignore the cache...). Again not sure if that is something you can trace an fix but it could put people off... >> >> Last thing... is there any plans for a Wiki? I'd like to get some of this information in my head and from the Forums in a place which we can build into a useful repositorty - the Forum is great but some posts can go on for a while (the Media Upload error one) and it was a relatively easy fix in the end but people may not want to wade through 60 or more pages to find the answer... thoughts? >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University >> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> ________________________________________ >> From: Forum XCW [forum at xerte.org.uk] >> Sent: 21 July 2013 06:31 >> To: Smith, John >> Subject: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) >> >> A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW >> >> Message Subject : Title bar and footer missing from display >> Category : Bugs and Issues >> Posted by : Mark Gallagher >> >> URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=90&mesid=434&Itemid=207&lang=en >> >> Message : >> ----- >> Hi John, >> No Joy yet! I was following your instructions wrong first time trying to view Dev mode. Rechecked and found the error also: Uncaught ReferenceError: geovisit is not defined. >> I called Yahoo tech support, They said my site stats are set to off and they didn't see any errors on there side in their error logs. I took the tech rep through the same process. She had the same result, no title or footer bar and also received the same error. I only get this error using the xerte template >> I don't even see a reference to geovisit...they didn't seem to know what that was either. humph! >> I'll keep checking different settings. Any thoughts are appreciated >> Thanks >> Mark >> ----- >> >> You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. >> >> Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. >> >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html >> >> Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. >> http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 09:49:03 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:49:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trac Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Some of the groups here have been using Trac to manage tickets: I've been really impressed with how they are using it. Do you think it would be good to use it ourselves? Basically, they are using it to manage a SCRUM approach to development, with tickets either being bugs / issues, or new feature requests. The tickets are then organised into a roadmap, and a series of code sprints. I think we need to do something to make our development process easier to manage and keep track of issues, and we keep talking about potential new features but don't always write them down anywhere? What do you think? From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 09:56:19 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:56:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug In-Reply-To: References: , , , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Works here on Win7 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 27 July 2013 13:38 To: Xerte discussion list; xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Ahh wait, the Nottingham install appears to still be v1.9 and that has been confirmed to work by Nick... This page has an accordion and is v2 latest revision so if people with Win7/IE8 (unlikely) or Vista/IE8 or XP/IE8 can test then i'd be very grateful http://xerte.smitcher.com/play.php?template_id=6 Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 27 July 2013 12:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Cheers Dave, Yeah, I'm at a bit of a loss just now... Nick's install is really close to latest trunk, something like R1047 (we're only at R1067 right now...), so it's not that old... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 27 July 2013 12:11 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug IE 8.0.6001.19443 Win Vista 6.0 Build 6002 SP2 Functions as expected. From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:49:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick, Ok, i've had a look at this this morning and I can't reproduce it on IE8 so i'm very confused... I don't have IE8 installed but used BrowserStack.com, as I always do, for backward compatibility testing, which i've always found very reliable. I've also tried locally on IE10 (but using the dev tools to force IE8 mode). I've attached the screenshots to to show you - I tested IE8 in both XP and Win7 on BrowserStack (only the Win7/IE8 screenshot attached) and locally on Win7/IE10[IE8 Mode] and I can't reproduce and it seems that the code is working... So, I'm throwing this back out to the community - does anyone have XP/IE8 or Win7/IE8 and could test this and try to reproduce the collapsed accordion view that Nick is experiencing? You can use this to try http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560?page=24 Thanks in advance!! Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 19:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Ok. Be in touch early next week. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: Well the whole accordion is pretty much permanently collapsed...no pane visible and tabs inactive. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 18:15 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick No worries. That would be ideal i think we can cope without... i already have an idea of what needs patching to fix the issue... Just to be 100% sure i have identified the issue - it is the collapsed accordion, not taking up the full height of the window that is the issue, in ie only? Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII "Sheppard, Nick" wrote: Hi John Unfortunately it's not public...I'd need to speak to our infrastructure folk next week but unlikely to be a priority for them! Nick ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 17:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick, No apology necessary - we're delighted when our users find bugs and tell us about them so that we can fix them for all - any misunderstanding was mostly my fault for not listening properly!! I doubt those tags that you've spotted have caused this although I can see why you might think that as they are a big change from what was there before - as you can see from the revisions over 450 code changes have gone on between those two versions so it's highly likely that something has been missed when updating the preview versions (v1.9) to the final page models... What would really help would be to have access to an LO (if that server is public) that exhibits this problem so that I might try to trace the issue. If you are able to give me access to than then you can email off list. Alternatively, I'll see what I can come up with by trial and error... Thanks again for your patience and I'll be in touch... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:51 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Screenshots both Chrome which is fine but version on left doesn't render properly in IE8. See earlier screenshot. Would dig it out but on mobile now! Thanks for help and sorry not to be clear Nick ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Smith, John [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk] Sent: 26 July 2013 16:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Ah ok, sorry, I understand now, the code was changed in order to allow IE9 and 10 to render HTML5 which it doesn't inv1.9 as it only runs in IE8 compatibility mode - so it's possible things could be different... I'm looking at the screenshots though so wondering what it is that you can see that I can't that is not rendering properly? I can only see the scrollbar difference? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:24 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi John XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) is the one installed for me at the University and is displaying the code...but this is also the one not rendering correctly in IE8 which is confounding me. My own install renders OK in IE8 (though no header code) and is - Xerte Online Toolkits v1.9 (from SVN rev 601 http://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits) Nick From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 26 July 2013 16:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick, Check the version of the one that is displaying the code... it is not optional in any way, it is hardwired into the template so the two installs must be at different revisions... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:54 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Thanks John IE v 8.0 and XOT 2.0 (svn r1057) Screenshot attached...apologies but actually missing header code on my install (which works) not institutional. Nick From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 26 July 2013 15:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: IE bug Hi Nick, What version of IE are you using and what Revision of xot (you can find that at /version.txt)? I tested the player in IE6-10 recently and didn't identify any problems with the new header code, but this was only added recently so you may not have it yet, if you get the XOT v2 update package on the Community Website then it is in... For information, IE conditionals should only be adding some classes to those IE versions that may require CSS patching, but I've only added them up until IE9 I think. IE10 has always been rendering the LOs fine as far as I'm aware. To force IE10 standards mode, the correct DOCTYPE tag is as you specified, (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/hh779632.aspx) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sheppard, Nick Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:12 PM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] IE bug Think I've spotted what's causing my IE bug... [If IE] statements are missing from Any idea why? Thanks Nick Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 10:01:59 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:01:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D4C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I also asked the people who make Agilo for Trac whether they would give an open source project a free license to their pro verison, and they are up for it (we can use the open source version of course). See below. We could use this, or we could use our own Agilo, or just trac. What sort of experiences have you guys had with this sort of stuff? Hi Julian, Agilo for Trac is also Open Source, but most of its features are included in the Pro Version. So we decided to offer you a free license, just let us know your username and how many users you need. In exchange we would ask for a review on http://www.userstories.com/products/8-agilo-for-trac and we would like a link to our product on your project, as much feedback as you can give us would be highly appreciated. We are trying to have as many Facebook likes and Tweets as possible about our products, so everything you can do in this regard would be great. :-) I am looking forward to your reply. Many greetings from Berlin Vittoria -- Vittoria Buffolino Agilo Software GmbH Gruenberger Str. 54 10245 Berlin, Germany vittoria.buffolino at agilosoftware.com http://www.agilosoftware.com Follow us on twitter: http://twitter.com/agiloforscrum, http://twitter.com/agilofortrac Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 127146 CEO Marion Eickmann, Andrea Tomasini On Jul 26, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: Hi, I look after The Xerte Project (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte) which is an open source suite of tools for developing learning materials. It's getting quite successful now, and is used a lot. Our developer community has really picked up over the last twelve months (http://www.ohloh.net/p/xerteproject). We are looking at a more robust development process than the one we currently use (which is a bit like the cross your fingers, shut your eyes and hope for the best!). I really like the look of Agilo for Trac. Is it available to open source projects for free? 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 July 2013 09:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trac Some of the groups here have been using Trac to manage tickets: I've been really impressed with how they are using it. Do you think it would be good to use it ourselves? Basically, they are using it to manage a SCRUM approach to development, with tickets either being bugs / issues, or new feature requests. The tickets are then organised into a roadmap, and a series of code sprints. I think we need to do something to make our development process easier to manage and keep track of issues, and we keep talking about potential new features but don't always write them down anywhere? What do you think? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 10:02:49 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:02:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Message-ID: Sounds good to me... Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney wrote: Some of the groups here have been using Trac to manage tickets: I've been really impressed with how they are using it. Do you think it would be good to use it ourselves? Basically, they are using it to manage a SCRUM approach to development, with tickets either being bugs / issues, or new feature requests. The tickets are then organised into a roadmap, and a series of code sprints. I think we need to do something to make our development process easier to manage and keep track of issues, and we keep talking about potential new features but don't always write them down anywhere? What do you think? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Nikodem.Miranowicz at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 10:16:38 2013 From: Nikodem.Miranowicz at nottingham.ac.uk (Nikodem Miranowicz) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:16:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <6731C96EB320BD49B490F66C783606512E66ABF8AB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I would strongly vote for it. Trac truly simplifies tracking of bugs as well as new features requests and greatly supports development process. Yes to Trac! Niko -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 July 2013 09:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trac Some of the groups here have been using Trac to manage tickets: I've been really impressed with how they are using it. Do you think it would be good to use it ourselves? Basically, they are using it to manage a SCRUM approach to development, with tickets either being bugs / issues, or new feature requests. The tickets are then organised into a roadmap, and a series of code sprints. I think we need to do something to make our development process easier to manage and keep track of issues, and we keep talking about potential new features but don't always write them down anywhere? What do you think? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jul 29 10:18:44 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:18:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D4C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D4C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51F63374.2000506@tor.nl> Sounds good to me too. I don't have experience with any of the products you mentioned, but the principles are familiar. I think 'agile' would be a very suitable development methodology for Xerte. In the past I've been using Trello (www.trello.com), but Agilo for Trac looks much completer. Do you want me to host it on the community server? Or are you going to host it in Nottingham? Tom Op 29-7-2013 11:01, Julian Tenney schreef: > I also asked the people who make Agilo for Trac whether they would give an open source project a free license to their pro verison, and they are up for it (we can use the open source version of course). See below. We could use this, or we could use our own Agilo, or just trac. > > What sort of experiences have you guys had with this sort of stuff? > > > > Hi Julian, > > Agilo for Trac is also Open Source, but most of its features are included in the Pro Version. > So we decided to offer you a free license, just let us know your username and how many users you need. > In exchange we would ask for a review on http://www.userstories.com/products/8-agilo-for-trac and we would like a link to our product on your project, as much feedback as you can give us would be highly appreciated. > We are trying to have as many Facebook likes and Tweets as possible about our products, so everything you can do in this regard would be great. :-) > I am looking forward to your reply. > > Many greetings from Berlin > Vittoria > > -- > Vittoria Buffolino > > Agilo Software GmbH > Gruenberger Str. 54 > 10245 Berlin, Germany > > vittoria.buffolino at agilosoftware.com > http://www.agilosoftware.com > > Follow us on twitter: http://twitter.com/agiloforscrum, http://twitter.com/agilofortrac > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 127146 > CEO Marion Eickmann, Andrea Tomasini > > > On Jul 26, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > Hi, > > I look after The Xerte Project (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte) which is an open source suite of tools for developing learning materials. It's getting quite successful now, and is used a lot. Our developer community has really picked up over the last twelve months (http://www.ohloh.net/p/xerteproject). We are looking at a more robust development process than the one we currently use (which is a bit like the cross your fingers, shut your eyes and hope for the best!). > > I really like the look of Agilo for Trac. Is it available to open source projects for free? We exist on goodwill, and have no revenue, consequently we have no budget. > > Many thanks for your time, > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 29 July 2013 09:49 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trac > > Some of the groups here have been using Trac to manage tickets: I've been really impressed with how they are using it. Do you think it would be good to use it ourselves? Basically, they are using it to manage a SCRUM approach to development, with tickets either being bugs / issues, or new feature requests. The tickets are then organised into a roadmap, and a series of code sprints. I think we need to do something to make our development process easier to manage and keep track of issues, and we keep talking about potential new features but don't always write them down anywhere? > > What do you think? > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 10:20:00 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:20:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <6731C96EB320BD49B490F66C783606512E66ABF8AB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6731C96EB320BD49B490F66C783606512E66ABF8AB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D8D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Have you used it with Agilo? Wondering whether it worth it (i.e to do SCRUM properly) or whether Trac alone is good enough? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nikodem Miranowicz Sent: 29 July 2013 10:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac I would strongly vote for it. Trac truly simplifies tracking of bugs as well as new features requests and greatly supports development process. Yes to Trac! Niko -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 July 2013 09:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trac Some of the groups here have been using Trac to manage tickets: I've been really impressed with how they are using it. Do you think it would be good to use it ourselves? Basically, they are using it to manage a SCRUM approach to development, with tickets either being bugs / issues, or new feature requests. The tickets are then organised into a roadmap, and a series of code sprints. I think we need to do something to make our development process easier to manage and keep track of issues, and we keep talking about potential new features but don't always write them down anywhere? What do you think? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 10:28:36 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:28:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <51F63374.2000506@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D4C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F63374.2000506@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665DB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'll just ask them whether the pro version si something they host, or we can host. If we can host it, let's host it at xerte.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 July 2013 10:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Sounds good to me too. I don't have experience with any of the products you mentioned, but the principles are familiar. I think 'agile' would be a very suitable development methodology for Xerte. In the past I've been using Trello (www.trello.com), but Agilo for Trac looks much completer. Do you want me to host it on the community server? Or are you going to host it in Nottingham? Tom Op 29-7-2013 11:01, Julian Tenney schreef: > I also asked the people who make Agilo for Trac whether they would give an open source project a free license to their pro verison, and they are up for it (we can use the open source version of course). See below. We could use this, or we could use our own Agilo, or just trac. > > What sort of experiences have you guys had with this sort of stuff? > > > > Hi Julian, > > Agilo for Trac is also Open Source, but most of its features are included in the Pro Version. > So we decided to offer you a free license, just let us know your username and how many users you need. > In exchange we would ask for a review on http://www.userstories.com/products/8-agilo-for-trac and we would like a link to our product on your project, as much feedback as you can give us would be highly appreciated. > We are trying to have as many Facebook likes and Tweets as possible > about our products, so everything you can do in this regard would be great. :-) I am looking forward to your reply. > > Many greetings from Berlin > Vittoria > > -- > Vittoria Buffolino > > Agilo Software GmbH > Gruenberger Str. 54 > 10245 Berlin, Germany > > vittoria.buffolino at agilosoftware.com > http://www.agilosoftware.com > > Follow us on twitter: http://twitter.com/agiloforscrum, > http://twitter.com/agilofortrac > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 127146 CEO Marion Eickmann, Andrea > Tomasini > > > On Jul 26, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > Hi, > > I look after The Xerte Project (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte) which is an open source suite of tools for developing learning materials. It's getting quite successful now, and is used a lot. Our developer community has really picked up over the last twelve months (http://www.ohloh.net/p/xerteproject). We are looking at a more robust development process than the one we currently use (which is a bit like the cross your fingers, shut your eyes and hope for the best!). > > I really like the look of Agilo for Trac. Is it available to open source projects for free? We exist on goodwill, and have no revenue, consequently we have no budget. > > Many thanks for your time, > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 29 July 2013 09:49 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trac > > Some of the groups here have been using Trac to manage tickets: I've been really impressed with how they are using it. Do you think it would be good to use it ourselves? Basically, they are using it to manage a SCRUM approach to development, with tickets either being bugs / issues, or new feature requests. The tickets are then organised into a roadmap, and a series of code sprints. I think we need to do something to make our development process easier to manage and keep track of issues, and we keep talking about potential new features but don't always write them down anywhere? > > What do you think? > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jul 29 10:29:03 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:29:03 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D8D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6731C96EB320BD49B490F66C783606512E66ABF8AB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D8D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51F635DF.6020007@tor.nl> We can at least start with Trac. A tracking/ticket system would be a huge step forward for tracking the issues. We can always add Agilo later (at least that is my understanding after reading some of the reviews on their website.) Op 29-7-2013 11:20, Julian Tenney schreef: > Have you used it with Agilo? > > Wondering whether it worth it (i.e to do SCRUM properly) or whether Trac alone is good enough? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nikodem Miranowicz > Sent: 29 July 2013 10:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > I would strongly vote for it. Trac truly simplifies tracking of bugs as well as new features requests and greatly supports development process. > > Yes to Trac! > > Niko > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 29 July 2013 09:49 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trac > > Some of the groups here have been using Trac to manage tickets: I've been really impressed with how they are using it. Do you think it would be good to use it ourselves? Basically, they are using it to manage a SCRUM approach to development, with tickets either being bugs / issues, or new feature requests. The tickets are then organised into a roadmap, and a series of code sprints. I think we need to do something to make our development process easier to manage and keep track of issues, and we keep talking about potential new features but don't always write them down anywhere? > > What do you think? > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 10:31:18 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:31:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <51F635DF.6020007@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6731C96EB320BD49B490F66C783606512E66ABF8AB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665D8D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F635DF.6020007@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7B665DBC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'll let you know what they say about hosting, and then we can decide. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 July 2013 10:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac We can at least start with Trac. A tracking/ticket system would be a huge step forward for tracking the issues. We can always add Agilo later (at least that is my understanding after reading some of the reviews on their website.) Op 29-7-2013 11:20, Julian Tenney schreef: > Have you used it with Agilo? > > Wondering whether it worth it (i.e to do SCRUM properly) or whether Trac alone is good enough? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nikodem Miranowicz > Sent: 29 July 2013 10:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > I would strongly vote for it. Trac truly simplifies tracking of bugs as well as new features requests and greatly supports development process. > > Yes to Trac! > > Niko > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 29 July 2013 09:49 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trac > > Some of the groups here have been using Trac to manage tickets: I've been really impressed with how they are using it. Do you think it would be good to use it ourselves? Basically, they are using it to manage a SCRUM approach to development, with tickets either being bugs / issues, or new feature requests. The tickets are then organised into a roadmap, and a series of code sprints. I think we need to do something to make our development process easier to manage and keep track of issues, and we keep talking about potential new features but don't always write them down anywhere? > > What do you think? > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Mon Jul 29 14:20:55 2013 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:20:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? David. On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: > Sounds good to me... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 14:23:15 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:23:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? David. On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: > Sounds good to me... > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jul 29 14:23:23 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:23:23 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) In-Reply-To: References: <44c427dadea2edae4511e65a240799ed@www.xerte.org.uk> Message-ID: <51F66CCB.1040806@tor.nl> I had a similar experience today, and it was because the message was edited afterwards by the poster. So I checked, and Mark Gallagher also edited his response. So I assume that's also the reason in this case. Nothing I can do about that.... Tom Op 21-7-2013 11:12, Smith, John schreef: > Hi, > > This is probably mainly for Tom or Inge (but I would welcome input and thoughts from others) but this message below from the Forum didn't actually make it onto the forum so it must be stuck somewhere (like one previous that I reported)... not sure if you can investigate this or do anything to prevent it happening but it would be good if it could appear in the sequence as it may contain useful info... > > Also, I've been on the forum a lot lately as I know some of you are not around or are busy. I've been getting an annoying white page error very often when clicking [Reply] why often disappears when I click refresh but occasionally it can take several tries (even using Shift-F5 in Chrome to ignore the cache...). Again not sure if that is something you can trace an fix but it could put people off... > > Last thing... is there any plans for a Wiki? I'd like to get some of this information in my head and from the Forums in a place which we can build into a useful repositorty - the Forum is great but some posts can go on for a while (the Media Upload error one) and it was a relatively easy fix in the end but people may not want to wade through 60 or more pages to find the answer... thoughts? > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > ________________________________________ > From: Forum XCW [forum at xerte.org.uk] > Sent: 21 July 2013 06:31 > To: Smith, John > Subject: [Forum XCW] Title bar and footer missing from display (Bugs and Issues) > > A new reply has been posted on the Forum XCW > > Message Subject : Title bar and footer missing from display > Category : Bugs and Issues > Posted by : Mark Gallagher > > URL : http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=4&id=90&mesid=434&Itemid=207&lang=en > > Message : > ----- > Hi John, > No Joy yet! I was following your instructions wrong first time trying to view Dev mode. Rechecked and found the error also: Uncaught ReferenceError: geovisit is not defined. > I called Yahoo tech support, They said my site stats are set to off and they didn't see any errors on there side in their error logs. I took the tech rep through the same process. She had the same result, no title or footer bar and also received the same error. I only get this error using the xerte template > I don't even see a reference to geovisit...they didn't seem to know what that was either. humph! > I'll keep checking different settings. Any thoughts are appreciated > Thanks > Mark > ----- > > You can unsubscribe from this topic by visiting it and clicking the Unsubscribe button near the top or bottom of the page. > > Do not answer to this e-mail notification as it is a generated e-mail. > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From david at palepurple.co.uk Mon Jul 29 14:29:06 2013 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:29:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Er.... on our setup, the git repos are on the same server as trac. Perhaps you could setup some sort of automated pull to the server running trac. I'd still suggest github - you'll get more exposure / patches / contributions..... if people have to create accounts on your trac system before they can commit / provide patches / report bugs ... they may not bother. thanks, David. On 29 Jul 2013, at 14:23, Julian Tenney wrote: > Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? > > David. > > On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Sounds good to me... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jul 29 14:31:53 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:31:53 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: > Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? > > David. > > On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Sounds good to me... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 14:32:40 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:32:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I meant that it isn't possible to integrate Trac with our existing svn on google code. So we would have to move it, or change repos - to Git, perhaps? I'm not too precious about google code / svn. If we can run it all on Tom's servers, that wold presumably be a good thing? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 29 July 2013 14:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Er.... on our setup, the git repos are on the same server as trac. Perhaps you could setup some sort of automated pull to the server running trac. I'd still suggest github - you'll get more exposure / patches / contributions..... if people have to create accounts on your trac system before they can commit / provide patches / report bugs ... they may not bother. thanks, David. On 29 Jul 2013, at 14:23, Julian Tenney wrote: > Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David > Goodwin > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? > > David. > > On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Sounds good to me... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application > Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 14:34:09 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:34:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage How much are you talking about? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: > Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David > Goodwin > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? > > David. > > On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: > >> Sounds good to me... >> >> Regards >> >> John Smith >> Learning Technologist >> School of Health and Life Sciences >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application > Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Mon Jul 29 14:33:43 2013 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:33:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> Message-ID: <1C50887E-3D0B-4885-8F08-4F301C2A0C04@palepurple.co.uk> Git can import from SVN ... so that's not going to be a problem. David. On 29 Jul 2013, at 14:31, Tom Reijnders wrote: > In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). > > But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. > > > Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >> >> David. >> >> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >> >>> Sounds good to me... >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> John Smith >>> Learning Technologist >>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>> >>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 14:35:10 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:35:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <1C50887E-3D0B-4885-8F08-4F301C2A0C04@palepurple.co.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <1C50887E-3D0B-4885-8F08-4F301C2A0C04@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FCA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Does it take all the revision history as well? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 29 July 2013 14:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Git can import from SVN ... so that's not going to be a problem. David. On 29 Jul 2013, at 14:31, Tom Reijnders wrote: > In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). > > But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. > > > Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >> Goodwin >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >> >> David. >> >> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >> >>> Sounds good to me... >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> John Smith >>> Learning Technologist >>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>> >>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> Pale Purple Ltd. 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(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jul 29 14:39:10 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:39:10 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FCA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <1C50887E-3D0B-4885-8F08-4F301C2A0C04@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FCA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51F6707E.3030706@tor.nl> I'll do the experiment. Op 29-7-2013 15:35, Julian Tenney schreef: > Does it take all the revision history as well? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:34 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > Git can import from SVN ... so that's not going to be a problem. > > David. > > > On 29 Jul 2013, at 14:31, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >> >> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >> >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>> Goodwin >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>> >>> David. >>> >>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>> >>>> Sounds good to me... >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> John Smith >>>> Learning Technologist >>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>> >>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>> Development and Training in PHP' >>> >>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>> >>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jul 29 14:40:46 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:40:46 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage > How much are you talking about? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). > > But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. > > > Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >> Goodwin >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >> >> David. >> >> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >> >>> Sounds good to me... >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> John Smith >>> Learning Technologist >>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>> >>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >> Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 14:45:18 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:45:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's 5.4 GB on the google server now. But the files are only 140MB... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage > How much are you talking about? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). > > But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. > > > Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >> Goodwin >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >> >> David. >> >> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >> >>> Sounds good to me... >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> John Smith >>> Learning Technologist >>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>> >>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >> Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 14:49:08 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:49:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage > How much are you talking about? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). > > But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. > > > Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >> Goodwin >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >> >> David. >> >> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >> >>> Sounds good to me... >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> John Smith >>> Learning Technologist >>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>> >>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >> Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 14:49:54 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:49:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <51F6707E.3030706@tor.nl> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <1C50887E-3D0B-4885-8F08-4F301C2A0C04@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FCA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F6707E.3030706@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It does apparently. The Rogo group here moved from svn to git and it kept everything. On balance they all seem to prefer it. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 July 2013 14:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac I'll do the experiment. Op 29-7-2013 15:35, Julian Tenney schreef: > Does it take all the revision history as well? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David > Goodwin > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:34 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > Git can import from SVN ... so that's not going to be a problem. > > David. > > > On 29 Jul 2013, at 14:31, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >> >> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >> >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>> Goodwin >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>> >>> David. >>> >>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>> >>>> Sounds good to me... >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> John Smith >>>> Learning Technologist >>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>> >>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application > Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 14:51:19 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:51:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If we're going to move the files then should we look seriously at using github? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 2:45 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac It's 5.4 GB on the google server now. But the files are only 140MB... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage > How much are you talking about? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). > > But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. > > > Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >> Goodwin >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >> >> David. >> >> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >> >>> Sounds good to me... >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> John Smith >>> Learning Technologist >>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>> >>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >> Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 14:53:11 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:53:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] andybee05 Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FF7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Who is andybee05? Apologies if I've forgotten someone, but whoever he is, he's down as an owner of the project on Google code. 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Personally I don't have strong feelings either way. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 29 July 2013 14:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac If we're going to move the files then should we look seriously at using github? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 2:45 PM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac It's 5.4 GB on the google server now. But the files are only 140MB... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage > How much are you talking about? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). > > But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. > > > Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >> Goodwin >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >> >> David. >> >> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >> >>> Sounds good to me... >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> John Smith >>> Learning Technologist >>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>> >>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >> Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 15:37:49 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:37:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Agilo for Trac Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06046@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> ...have offered us 15 pro licenses free of charge. So we need to weigh up whether we want to use it, or whether just making the move to Trac would be a big improvement on things? Even if we don't use Agilo, I can see that we need to do something pretty similar to SCRUM in order to i) create tickets; ii) organise them into work for releases; iii) track the work being done; iv) release when complete. SCRUM does answer a lot of the issues we face, I think, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But everything seems to be there.... http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? > > Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. > > Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >> How much are you talking about? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >> >> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >> >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>> Goodwin >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>> >>> David. >>> >>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>> >>>> Sounds good to me... >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> John Smith >>>> Learning Technologist >>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>> >>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>> Development and Training in PHP' >>> >>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>> >>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 15:38:50 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:38:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Even the files are 130MB... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... But everything seems to be there.... http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? > > Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. > > Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >> How much are you talking about? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >> >> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >> >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>> Goodwin >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>> >>> David. >>> >>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>> >>>> Sounds good to me... >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> John Smith >>>> Learning Technologist >>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>> >>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>> Development and Training in PHP' >>> >>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>> >>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Simon.Atack at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 15:41:58 2013 From: Simon.Atack at nottingham.ac.uk (Simon Atack) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:41:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. Simon -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Even the files are 130MB... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... But everything seems to be there.... http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? > > Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. > > Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >> How much are you talking about? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >> >> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >> >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>> Goodwin >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>> >>> David. >>> >>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>> >>>> Sounds good to me... >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> John Smith >>>> Learning Technologist >>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>> >>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>> Development and Training in PHP' >>> >>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>> >>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Jul 29 15:48:06 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:48:06 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. Tom Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: > If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. > > Simon > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > Even the files are 130MB... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... > > But everything seems to be there.... > > http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot > > Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >> >> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>> How much are you talking about? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>> >>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>> >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>>> Goodwin >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>> >>>> David. >>>> >>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> John Smith >>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>> >>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>> >>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jul 29 15:52:23 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:52:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. Tom Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: > If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. > > Simon > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > Even the files are 130MB... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... > > But everything seems to be there.... > > http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot > > Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >> >> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>> How much are you talking about? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>> >>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>> >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>> David Goodwin >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>> >>>> David. >>>> >>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> John Smith >>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>> >>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>> >>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jul 29 19:16:40 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:16:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: andybee05 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FF7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FF7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <0150BB8B-E487-4B63-9919-868F1E7A5159@pgogywebstuff.com> Andy erm Beggan.... Maybe On 29 Jul 2013, at 14:53, Julian Tenney wrote: > Who is andybee05? Apologies if I?ve forgotten someone, but whoever he is, he?s down as an owner of the project on Google code. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Jul 29 19:16:05 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:16:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> There are XOTs already on GitHub It builds a zip for you as well. I think people expect code to be there now You can also have organisations around a repo, which would make sense - to me - as that way no one account has the claim on the repo On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. > > Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. > > So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. > > Tom > > > Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: >> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. >> >> Simon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> Even the files are 130MB... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... >> >> But everything seems to be there.... >> >> http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >>> >>> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>>> How much are you talking about? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>>> >>>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>> David Goodwin >>>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>>> >>>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> John Smith >>>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>>> >>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>> >>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 30 09:25:53 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:25:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: andybee05 In-Reply-To: <0150BB8B-E487-4B63-9919-868F1E7A5159@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FF7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0150BB8B-E487-4B63-9919-868F1E7A5159@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Never heard of him ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 29 July 2013 19:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: andybee05 Andy erm Beggan.... Maybe On 29 Jul 2013, at 14:53, Julian Tenney > wrote: Who is andybee05? Apologies if I?ve forgotten someone, but whoever he is, he?s down as an owner of the project on Google code. I don?t recognise the name, and can find no trace of the address in Outlook. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 30 09:29:56 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:29:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > There are XOTs already on GitHub Eh? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 29 July 2013 19:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac There are XOTs already on GitHub It builds a zip for you as well. I think people expect code to be there now You can also have organisations around a repo, which would make sense - to me - as that way no one account has the claim on the repo On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. > > Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. > > So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. > > Tom > > > Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: >> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. >> >> Simon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> Even the files are 130MB... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... >> >> But everything seems to be there.... >> >> http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >>> >>> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>>> How much are you talking about? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>>> >>>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>> David Goodwin >>>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>>> >>>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> John Smith >>>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>>> >>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>> >>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 30 10:02:40 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:02:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: A couple of people have uploaded the source... either to modify or just to keep a copy... one has added Google Analytics to index.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:30 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > There are XOTs already on GitHub Eh? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 29 July 2013 19:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac There are XOTs already on GitHub It builds a zip for you as well. I think people expect code to be there now You can also have organisations around a repo, which would make sense - to me - as that way no one account has the claim on the repo On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. > > Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. > > So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. > > Tom > > > Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: >> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. >> >> Simon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> Even the files are 130MB... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... >> >> But everything seems to be there.... >> >> http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >>> >>> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>>> How much are you talking about? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>>> >>>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>> David Goodwin >>>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>>> >>>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> John Smith >>>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>>> >>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>> >>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 30 10:08:16 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:08:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06252@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Oh, OK. I created a xerteonlinetoolkits repo there yesterday, with a view to moving the code from the svn to it at some point. I need to get a bit more familiar with how it works first, or I'll end up screwing it up. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac A couple of people have uploaded the source... either to modify or just to keep a copy... one has added Google Analytics to index.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:30 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > There are XOTs already on GitHub Eh? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 29 July 2013 19:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac There are XOTs already on GitHub It builds a zip for you as well. I think people expect code to be there now You can also have organisations around a repo, which would make sense - to me - as that way no one account has the claim on the repo On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. > > Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. > > So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. > > Tom > > > Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: >> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. >> >> Simon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> Even the files are 130MB... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... >> >> But everything seems to be there.... >> >> http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >>> >>> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>>> How much are you talking about? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>>> >>>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>> David Goodwin >>>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>>> >>>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> John Smith >>>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 30 10:12:38 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:12:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06252@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06252@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yes I created an area for putting the API in but haven't got around to actually putting the files up yet... couldn't get TortoiseGit to work with it... need to look at that since I'm most familiar with that app now... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:08 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Oh, OK. I created a xerteonlinetoolkits repo there yesterday, with a view to moving the code from the svn to it at some point. I need to get a bit more familiar with how it works first, or I'll end up screwing it up. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac A couple of people have uploaded the source... either to modify or just to keep a copy... one has added Google Analytics to index.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:30 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > There are XOTs already on GitHub Eh? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 29 July 2013 19:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac There are XOTs already on GitHub It builds a zip for you as well. I think people expect code to be there now You can also have organisations around a repo, which would make sense - to me - as that way no one account has the claim on the repo On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. > > Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. > > So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. > > Tom > > > Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: >> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. >> >> Simon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> Even the files are 130MB... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... >> >> But everything seems to be there.... >> >> http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >>> >>> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>>> How much are you talking about? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>>> >>>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>> David Goodwin >>>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>>> >>>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> John Smith >>>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>>> >>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>> >>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 30 10:17:52 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:17:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06252@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC0625F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Some sort of guide might be a useful thing to write: I can mostly figure it out, but I think like SVN, and might be missing some of the benefits until I get to think like Git. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:13 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Yes I created an area for putting the API in but haven't got around to actually putting the files up yet... couldn't get TortoiseGit to work with it... need to look at that since I'm most familiar with that app now... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:08 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Oh, OK. I created a xerteonlinetoolkits repo there yesterday, with a view to moving the code from the svn to it at some point. I need to get a bit more familiar with how it works first, or I'll end up screwing it up. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac A couple of people have uploaded the source... either to modify or just to keep a copy... one has added Google Analytics to index.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:30 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > There are XOTs already on GitHub Eh? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 29 July 2013 19:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac There are XOTs already on GitHub It builds a zip for you as well. I think people expect code to be there now You can also have organisations around a repo, which would make sense - to me - as that way no one account has the claim on the repo On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. > > Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. > > So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. > > Tom > > > Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: >> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. >> >> Simon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> Even the files are 130MB... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... >> >> But everything seems to be there.... >> >> http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >>> >>> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>>> How much are you talking about? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>>> >>>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>> David Goodwin >>>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>>> >>>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> John Smith >>>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 30 10:20:23 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:20:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC0625F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06252@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC0625F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Why not start a "Using Git instead of SVN" type guide in Google Docs and share with us and we can all add stuff in... or should it go in the Wiki so others who wish to become involved can get at it... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:18 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Some sort of guide might be a useful thing to write: I can mostly figure it out, but I think like SVN, and might be missing some of the benefits until I get to think like Git. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:13 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Yes I created an area for putting the API in but haven't got around to actually putting the files up yet... couldn't get TortoiseGit to work with it... need to look at that since I'm most familiar with that app now... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:08 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Oh, OK. I created a xerteonlinetoolkits repo there yesterday, with a view to moving the code from the svn to it at some point. I need to get a bit more familiar with how it works first, or I'll end up screwing it up. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac A couple of people have uploaded the source... either to modify or just to keep a copy... one has added Google Analytics to index.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:30 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > There are XOTs already on GitHub Eh? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 29 July 2013 19:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac There are XOTs already on GitHub It builds a zip for you as well. I think people expect code to be there now You can also have organisations around a repo, which would make sense - to me - as that way no one account has the claim on the repo On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. > > Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. > > So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. > > Tom > > > Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: >> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. >> >> Simon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> Even the files are 130MB... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... >> >> But everything seems to be there.... >> >> http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >>> >>> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>>> How much are you talking about? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>>> >>>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 30 10:23:44 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:23:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06252@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC0625F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC0626A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, and add in stuff about the development process, which I would like to robustify, so that is also relevant to the 'How to become a Xerte Online Toolkits Developer' guide. We still need to agree it of course... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:20 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Why not start a "Using Git instead of SVN" type guide in Google Docs and share with us and we can all add stuff in... or should it go in the Wiki so others who wish to become involved can get at it... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:18 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Some sort of guide might be a useful thing to write: I can mostly figure it out, but I think like SVN, and might be missing some of the benefits until I get to think like Git. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:13 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Yes I created an area for putting the API in but haven't got around to actually putting the files up yet... couldn't get TortoiseGit to work with it... need to look at that since I'm most familiar with that app now... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:08 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Oh, OK. I created a xerteonlinetoolkits repo there yesterday, with a view to moving the code from the svn to it at some point. I need to get a bit more familiar with how it works first, or I'll end up screwing it up. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac A couple of people have uploaded the source... either to modify or just to keep a copy... one has added Google Analytics to index.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:30 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > There are XOTs already on GitHub Eh? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 29 July 2013 19:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac There are XOTs already on GitHub It builds a zip for you as well. I think people expect code to be there now You can also have organisations around a repo, which would make sense - to me - as that way no one account has the claim on the repo On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. > > Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. > > So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. > > Tom > > > Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: >> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. >> >> Simon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> Even the files are 130MB... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... >> >> But everything seems to be there.... >> >> http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >>> >>> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>>> How much are you talking about? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>>> >>>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>> David Goodwin >>>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>>> >>>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> John Smith >>>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Jul 30 11:09:23 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:09:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC0626A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06252@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC0625F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC0626A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Look at SourceTree... open source and Windows/Mac... looks good... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:24 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Yes, and add in stuff about the development process, which I would like to robustify, so that is also relevant to the 'How to become a Xerte Online Toolkits Developer' guide. We still need to agree it of course... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:20 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Why not start a "Using Git instead of SVN" type guide in Google Docs and share with us and we can all add stuff in... or should it go in the Wiki so others who wish to become involved can get at it... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:18 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Some sort of guide might be a useful thing to write: I can mostly figure it out, but I think like SVN, and might be missing some of the benefits until I get to think like Git. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:13 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Yes I created an area for putting the API in but haven't got around to actually putting the files up yet... couldn't get TortoiseGit to work with it... need to look at that since I'm most familiar with that app now... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:08 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Oh, OK. I created a xerteonlinetoolkits repo there yesterday, with a view to moving the code from the svn to it at some point. I need to get a bit more familiar with how it works first, or I'll end up screwing it up. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac A couple of people have uploaded the source... either to modify or just to keep a copy... one has added Google Analytics to index.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:30 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > There are XOTs already on GitHub Eh? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 29 July 2013 19:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac There are XOTs already on GitHub It builds a zip for you as well. I think people expect code to be there now You can also have organisations around a repo, which would make sense - to me - as that way no one account has the claim on the repo On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. > > Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. > > So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. > > Tom > > > Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: >> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. >> >> Simon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> Even the files are 130MB... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... >> >> But everything seems to be there.... >> >> http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >>> >>> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>>> How much are you talking about? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>>> >>>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>> David Goodwin >>>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>>> >>>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> John Smith >>>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jul 30 11:50:52 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:50:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: andybee05 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FF7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0150BB8B-E487-4B63-9919-868F1E7A5159@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <918AF100-2674-44F8-95FD-9C1DBF9D36EE@pgogywebstuff.com> He did some bug checking once. I think. Last I heard he'd become a delta blues man somewhere near Memphis On 30 Jul 2013, at 09:25, Julian Tenney wrote: > Never heard of him > > ;-) > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 29 July 2013 19:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: andybee05 > > Andy erm Beggan.... > > Maybe > > On 29 Jul 2013, at 14:53, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Who is andybee05? Apologies if I?ve forgotten someone, but whoever he is, he?s down as an owner of the project on Google code. I don?t recognise the name, and can find no trace of the address in Outlook. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Tue Jul 30 11:54:37 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy ) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:54:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06252@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC0625F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <9C230926-1711-4ADF-AAF1-CCC2EDF14539@pgogywebstuff.com> Or just use the windows client as that makes everything easy peasy My XOT modules are on GitHub as well On 30 Jul 2013, at 10:20, "Smith, John" wrote: > Why not start a "Using Git instead of SVN" type guide in Google Docs and share with us and we can all add stuff in... or should it go in the Wiki so others who wish to become involved can get at it... > > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:18 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > Some sort of guide might be a useful thing to write: I can mostly figure it out, but I think like SVN, and might be missing some of the benefits until I get to think like Git. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 30 July 2013 10:13 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > Yes I created an area for putting the API in but haven't got around to actually putting the files up yet... couldn't get TortoiseGit to work with it... need to look at that since I'm most familiar with that app now... > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:08 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > Oh, OK. I created a xerteonlinetoolkits repo there yesterday, with a view to moving the code from the svn to it at some point. I need to get a bit more familiar with how it works first, or I'll end up screwing it up. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 30 July 2013 10:03 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > A couple of people have uploaded the source... either to modify or just to keep a copy... one has added Google Analytics to index.php > > Regards, > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health & Life Sciences > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:30 AM > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > >> There are XOTs already on GitHub > > Eh? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy > Sent: 29 July 2013 19:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > There are XOTs already on GitHub > > It builds a zip for you as well. > > I think people expect code to be there now > > You can also have organisations around a repo, which would make sense - to me - as that way no one account has the claim on the repo > > On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. >> >> Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. >> >> So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. >> >> Tom >> >> >> Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: >>> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> Even the files are 130MB... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... >>> >>> But everything seems to be there.... >>> >>> http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >>>> >>>> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >>>> >>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>>>> How much are you talking about? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>> Reijnders >>>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>>> >>>>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>>>> >>>>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> David Goodwin >>>>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>>>> >>>>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John Smith >>>>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _____________________________________________ From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 30 13:21:57 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:21:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac In-Reply-To: References: <7CE507F0-09AF-4174-B32C-41F8DA54F4ED@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FAD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F66EC9.3060304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F670DE.8080602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC05FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F67E37.9080007@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06047@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69EBE05A4BFEE840A8103DD2C84AF30F2011349C27@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <51F680A6.3060901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06064@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8A7A9723-4E00-457B-A3E2-FAFCFD0659C5@pgogywebstuff.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC061ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06252@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC0625F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C7BC06436@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> In the wiki I think -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:20 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Why not start a "Using Git instead of SVN" type guide in Google Docs and share with us and we can all add stuff in... or should it go in the Wiki so others who wish to become involved can get at it... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:18 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Some sort of guide might be a useful thing to write: I can mostly figure it out, but I think like SVN, and might be missing some of the benefits until I get to think like Git. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:13 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Yes I created an area for putting the API in but haven't got around to actually putting the files up yet... couldn't get TortoiseGit to work with it... need to look at that since I'm most familiar with that app now... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:08 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac Oh, OK. I created a xerteonlinetoolkits repo there yesterday, with a view to moving the code from the svn to it at some point. I need to get a bit more familiar with how it works first, or I'll end up screwing it up. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 30 July 2013 10:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac A couple of people have uploaded the source... either to modify or just to keep a copy... one has added Google Analytics to index.php Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:30 AM To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > There are XOTs already on GitHub Eh? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 29 July 2013 19:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac There are XOTs already on GitHub It builds a zip for you as well. I think people expect code to be there now You can also have organisations around a repo, which would make sense - to me - as that way no one account has the claim on the repo On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Any preferences? Some advantage to being part of the github community? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 29 July 2013 15:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac > > It apparently only stores the last version of binary files. There are some word and pdf documents that are fairly large. That was the main reason I was surprised by the 48Mb. But apparently only the latest version is stored. > > Still. Quite remarkable, as the svn repo is more than 5Gb. > > So.... we can go for github, but we could also create a git repo on the xerte.org.uk server. > > Tom > > > Op 29-7-2013 16:41, Simon Atack schreef: >> If it's a bare archive then it won't have the files in a 'useable' format and they will be stored inside the repository as compressed diffs etc. >> >> Simon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> Even the files are 130MB... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 July 2013 15:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >> >> It's really a neat trick.... as far as I can tell it's only 48 Mb. Can't believe it.... >> >> But everything seems to be there.... >> >> http://webserver01.tor.nl/cgi-bin/cgit/cgit.cgi/xot >> >> Op 29-7-2013 15:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Maybe we should get some sponsors to pay for this sort of stuff? >>> >>> Simon just told me that GIT is a lot more efficient with space. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:41 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>> >>> For now it'll be ok, storage costs EUR 3, per 5Gb per month. So it depends a bit on how fast the repo is growing. >>> >>> Op 29-7-2013 15:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage >>>> How much are you talking about? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:32 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>> >>>> In theory I could host svn on the community server. Have to be a bit carefull with diskspace though (or arrange some kind of funding to increase the storage). >>>> >>>> But github would be fine as well. I hope there is a way to keep the revision history, and I have to figure out how to build the zips using git in stead of svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 29-7-2013 15:23, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> Yes, also wondering about moving to Git and integrating git with Trac. You can only integrate Trac with SVN on the same server, but I think you can integrate Trac with a Github repo? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>> David Goodwin >>>>> Sent: 29 July 2013 14:21 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trac >>>>> >>>>> We've used trac for years internally and it's a great product - however you might find the project grows/has more contributions if you can use e.g. github ? >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:02, "Smith, John" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good to me... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> John Smith >>>>>> Learning Technologist >>>>>> School of Health and Life Sciences >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>>> >>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>> >>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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