[Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
Pat @ Pgogy
xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
Fri Apr 12 17:28:38 BST 2013
Ah,
I think display names are set in the info file.... Will check later
Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality
On 12 Apr 2013, at 16:41, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
> Given the properties panel says Javascript (a.k.a. HTML5) I think that's fine.
>
> But I would suggest for the manual override it's play_560?engine=flash and play_560?engine=html rather than play_560?engine=html5 or play_560?engine=javascript
>
> For the site template does the template folder name matter? Does that need to change from site?
> Isn't it then about the title and description which can be changed to whatever people prefer via managpemt.php? e.g. the rest of the world could leave it as website template but at Nottingham it's changed to Learning Module?
>
> I appreciate the political problem but when you compare the 'learning' functionality in the Nottingham template it somehow seems wrong to refer to a template that basically creates responsive web pages and arguably mini-sites as a learning module template.
>
> How about mobile template or responsive template?
>
> Ron
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 12 April 2013 16:14
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> Happy with flash / javascript.
>
> ‘Learning Module’ for the site template? Political reasons here, but I need to avoid ‘web site’ or anything that sounds like it’s an alternative to the CMS. Am happy to take other suggestions, maybe commit it for now? The actual name can remain ‘site’ if needs be.
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 12 April 2013 16:05
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> Some questions, before I commit,
>
> 1. Julian, do you already have a different name for 'site' or shall I commit site for the moment?
> 2. Do we have consensus over the engine name? html5? javascript? xenith?
>
> Now I have 'html5' in the GUI, but 'javascript' in the code, because I think that is better w.r.t. flash.
>
> The major reason I ask is that if we want to create the play_html5_560 play_flash_560 (not sure that's a good idea, I prefer that people have to put in a bit more effort to choose an engine different than the author wanted, so play_560?engine=html5)
>
> Still even if we leave it at the engine=.... what will we call the engines?
>
> I prefer flash/javascript
>
> Tom
>
>
> Op 12-4-2013 16:48, Julian Tenney schreef:
> Oh, OK, sorry I was thinking you wanted to add XML as an option to the runtime dropdown. I don’t think that’s the right place for it, but I might have misunderstood,
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
> Sent: 12 April 2013 14:19
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> Well the tab is there for everyone, the only difference is the URL changes from
>
> Xml_560 to
> Play_xml_560
>
> Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
> Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality
>
> On 12 Apr 2013, at 13:49, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Getting xml out. I think that’s what you mean, anyway? I think that’s something for developers to get at, rather than end users to get confused about,
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
> Sent: 12 April 2013 12:58
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> The first or second bit
>
> Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
> Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality
>
> On 12 Apr 2013, at 11:37, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> This sounds like a rabbit hole for now,
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
> Sent: 12 April 2013 11:03
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> The play URL is now a sort of API
>
> So rather than
>
> play.php?template_id=1&method=flash
>
> You could have
>
> play.php?template_id=1&method=XML
>
> Which just returns the XML
>
> So you cold retire the XML page from the root folder (over time)
>
> Now where this could get interesting is you could make an XML remote method to change the file locations and host a single engine at site x, and dynamically bring in content that way. A sort of xpert shop window
>
> Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
> Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality
>
> On 12 Apr 2013, at 10:08, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Is that something end users would need to see, or is this tech stuff for an API call?
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
> Sent: 12 April 2013 08:22
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> At the moment XML is a link option for XOT files, but all it does is return the XML.
>
> As we now have different methods for displaying content for a module, XML could be one of those?
>
> Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
> Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality
>
> On 12 Apr 2013, at 07:32, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:
>
> Ehmmm... could you be a bit more specific? Last time I checked I still wasn't a mind reader.... :-)
>
> Op 12-4-2013 0:28, Pat @ Pgogy schreef:
> Tom,
>
> Thoughts on making XML into a play option?
>
> Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
> Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality
>
> On 11 Apr 2013, at 21:52, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:
>
> Yes definitely. Added function upgrade_4()
>
> Tom
>
> Op 11-4-2013 15:42, Ron Mitchell schreef:
> Was the correct upgrade definitely in the patch?
> If it was my applying of the patch didn't work because that's not in the patched or exported code yet it is in basic.sql
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 11 April 2013 14:33
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> Strange.
>
> Upgrade should give you an extra column on templatedetails called extra_flags.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> schreef:
> Cheers got it!
>
>
> I'm not sure if anyone else has tried this yet but not quite working for me...
>
>
> 1. Applied patch to local copy of svn code
> 2. Exported patched version
> 3. Dropped over a localhost test install
>
>
> I can see new options in the properties panel e.g. what is the default engine to use for this project with Javascript (a.k.a. HTML5) ticked
> But I can't untick that or tick the flash option
> When following the flash and html5 links I get an empty wondow
> and when trying to create a new LO I get an empty window with failed to create new template
>
>
> I ran upgrade.php but there doesn't seem to be anything new in there?
>
>
> HTH
> Ron
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 11 April 2013 13:10
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
>
> I’ve just sent it on…
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 11 April 2013 12:29
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
>
> Didn't want to send It to the list . Julian has it.
>
> Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> schreef:
> Happy to test and feedback but where do I get the patch? 752 looks like Fay's update.
>
>
> Ron
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 11 April 2013 11:08
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
>
> I am off-line the rest of the day. I'll send the patch to Julian.
>
> Op 11-4-2013 11:51, Tom Reijnders schreef:
> As an addition:
>
> Now you can just use play.php&template_id=4 (or play_4). It will show :
> 1. if the template_frame=xerte in the engine set by the user
> 2. if the template_frame is site using modules/site/play.php
>
> Also, you can use play.php&template_id=4&engine=flash or play.php&template_id=4&engine=javascript to force a specific engine.
>
> Some is true for preview.
>
> You can also use engine=other (this is used by the wizard when Ctlr+Play is pressed)
>
> I have to do the same for peer.php, but first would like some feedback ;-)
>
> Tom
>
>
> Op 11-4-2013 11:38, Tom Reijnders schreef:
> Almost finished.
>
> I didn't change anything yet to modularize the properties page
>
> - Changed play.php (root) and modules/xerte/play.php and preview
> - Made play_html5.php (root) redirect to new play
> - Make use of the same template files as export does for the play and preview
> - Make wizard toggle the engine on Ctrl-click
> - Move site to its own module dir
>
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