[Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess

Wed Apr 10 11:19:19 BST 2013

True, and happy to shut up
But I first raised this in November
- http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte-dev/2012-November/002868.html
[1] - but it didn't go anywhere
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From: "For Xerte technical developers" 
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Sent:Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:41:32 +0100
Subject:[Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess

 Always we seem to hit something fundamental right before we're due to
finish the work. There is a degree of frustration here with two
things:

 - we have already worked through this twice: Fay has worked through
it once with Pat to get the html5 links working, and I have worked
through it with Pat to get the site template working. Now we want to
do it differently?
 - if you take pre-release code and it changes, well, that's sometimes
life. Play_html5 was always intended as a way of beta testing the
templates, rather than anything else.

 At this stage of things, I think we should go with what we have, and
Tom's database solution solution, and get this phase of work done, and
then address it later when we have a new cycle underway. I appreciate
the issues, but there is no point in getting hung about functionality
that no one is using yet (modularity), at the expense of functionality
that everyone wants to use (html5 delivery). 

 -----Original Message-----
 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
Mitchell
 Sent: 09 April 2013 18:15
 To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess

 For me the basic principal must be whatever we want to be defaults
for any new solution mustn't break existing links or require people to
duplicate or re-write any code to maintain that compatibility. The
vast majority will not have the time, skills or inclination to do
that. So...

 /play.php?template_id=123 and /play_123 including the embed code
links should continue to play existing LO's via Flash likewise
 /play_html5.php?template_id=123 and /play_html5_123 should continue
to work even if that's no longer the default for new html 5, 6 or 7
LO's.

 I can see the point about not referring to html5 and keeping it more
future proofed and again I can't see a problem with changes like this
or the new defaults being Play.php?template_id=560&method=HTML as long
as existing links aren't broken. But what would be the Apache/htaccess
version of that? 

 Over time JISC Techdis and other organisations and individuals have
shared many links to LO's they have made public with the community,
with their learners, with colleagues and this includes sharing of the
play_html5 links. Rightly or wrongly that's what we've had since the
1.8 release so obviously we shouldn't break those links if we can
possibly avoid it.

 HTH
 Ron

 -----Original Message-----
 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith,
John
 Sent: 09 April 2013 17:25
 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess

 Howdy

 I personally think you need to run everything through the same page,
with parameters. Its the only way you can prevent worsening the
situation 12 months down the line where we have many deployed play
urls which have to be maintained... Plan to deprecate play_html5 and
then people can rewrite that page to your main play.php page with
method=html or even duplicate the main play.php file as play_html5 if
they must.

 Begs the question - should we drop references to html5 and just call
it html - what happens if they release html6 in a few years?

 Regards

 John Smith
 Learning Technologist
 School of Health and Life Sciences

 Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII

 "Pat @ Pgogy"  wrote:

 Could we use the following URL structure?

 Can the play URL be

 Play.php?template_id=560
 And
 Play.php?template_id=560&method=HTML

 And not playhtml.php?

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