[Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess

Julian Tenney Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Wed Apr 10 09:41:32 BST 2013


Always we seem to hit something fundamental right before we're due to finish the work. There is a degree of frustration here with two things:

- we have already worked through this twice: Fay has worked through it once with Pat to get the html5 links working, and I have worked through it with Pat to get the site template working. Now we want to do it differently?
- if you take pre-release code and it changes, well, that's sometimes life. Play_html5 was always intended as a way of beta testing the templates, rather than anything else.

At this stage of things, I think we should go with what we have, and Tom's database solution solution, and get this phase of work done, and then address it later when we have a new cycle underway. I appreciate the issues, but there is no point in getting hung about functionality that no one is using yet (modularity), at the expense of functionality that everyone wants to use (html5 delivery). 

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 09 April 2013 18:15
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess

For me the basic principal must be whatever we want to be defaults for any new solution mustn't break existing links or require people to duplicate or re-write any code to maintain that compatibility. The vast majority will not have the time, skills or inclination to do that. So...

/play.php?template_id=123 and /play_123 including the embed code links should continue to play existing LO's via Flash likewise
/play_html5.php?template_id=123 and /play_html5_123 should continue to work even if that's no longer the default for new html 5, 6 or 7 LO's.

I can see the point about not referring to html5 and keeping it more future proofed and again I can't see a problem with changes like this or the new defaults being Play.php?template_id=560&method=HTML as long as existing links aren't broken. But what would be the Apache/htaccess version of that? 

Over time JISC Techdis and other organisations and individuals have shared many links to LO's they have made public with the community, with their learners, with colleagues and this includes sharing of the play_html5 links. Rightly or wrongly that's what we've had since the 1.8 release so obviously we shouldn't break those links if we can possibly avoid it.

HTH
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 09 April 2013 17:25
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess

Howdy

I personally  think you need to run everything through the same page, with parameters. Its the only way you can prevent worsening the situation 12 months down the line where we have many deployed play urls which have to be maintained... Plan to deprecate play_html5 and then people can rewrite that page to your main play.php page with method=html or even duplicate the main play.php file as play_html5 if they must.

Begs the question - should we drop references to html5 and just call it html -  what happens if they release html6 in a few years?

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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"Pat @ Pgogy" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:


Could we use the following URL structure?

Can the play URL be

Play.php?template_id=560
And
Play.php?template_id=560&method=HTML

And not playhtml.php?

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