[Xerte-dev] Re: SCORM tracking

Tue Apr 9 11:24:40 BST 2013

Hi Tom
I'll try to test further at some point especially to verify the completion status.

I possibly found another/related issue but need to test further. However I'll mention now in case it's something you're aware of...

I have two different installations on the same server both using static authentication. On one your latest export code works but on the other it doesn't whereas it does work with the previous export code in place. I'm wondering if this is because your latest export code requires changes/additions to the .htaccess code? I need to find time to test further but that's the main difference between the two installations e.g. one has Apache set to true and the other (the one that works) has Apache set to false.

As I say I'll test further and report back because there are other issues I've found in testing although not necessarily related to your commits.  

Cheers
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 09 April 2013 10:55
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SCORM tracking

Hi Ron,

Thanks for testing! The Scorm 2004 should say 'completed' if all pages were visited.

In Scorm2004 the copmpletion status is separated from the Success status. So in 2004 you can have completed as Completion Status and 'failed' as success status. The moodle score book doesn't handle that situation very good.

And I want the commenst in Scorm 1.2 separated with new lines, but haven't found a working linebreak character yet.

Tom

Citeren Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>:

> Hi Tom
> just a quick note to say I tested the 1.2 and 2004 export options 
> earlier today and imported as scorm into a Moodle 2.2.1
>
> Both seemed to work well! This was a simple 5 page test LO with a quiz 
> added at the end just to test that functionality.
>
> In Moodle viewing the results of a student viewing the LO and 
> completing the quiz the  view of interactions (pages) works best via 
> Scorm 2004 as each page result is showed in a separate row whereas 
> with 1.2 it's all shown under 1 row of cmi.comments but as you say 
> still more info than tracked previously.
>
> The only odd thing I noticed from my tests so far is that under 
> general data 1.2 Status showed as passed whereas 2004 showed status as 
> incomplete. Not sure if that's an error or not but why would that 
> differ between 1.2 and 2004?
>
> HTH
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
> Reijnders
> Sent: 08 April 2013 10:08
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SCORM tracking
>
> It makes sense for quizzes, but not for some of the other page types.
>
> Also, you can make this as complicated as you want, but in the end, it 
> has to be intuitive to the teacher/lerarning speciaist who creates the 
> LO.
>
> I can imagine that we add an optional weight parameter to all 
> interactions, then you could even create 'exercise quizzes' inside an 
> LO.
>
> So, summarizing, for the first release, I am not too keen to add all 
> kinds of bells and whistles. In my opinion it is a lot simpler to use, 
> than it was before, and it tracks a lot more data (not even sure at he 
> moment if that's a blessing).
>
> The way I implemented though gives you MUCH opportunities to play with 
> the plugin structure you created.  The html5 and the flash rlm's use a 
> javascript API to do the tracking, which at the moment is pretty 
> straightforward.  The actual tracking is done in separate javascript 
> classes. With the plug-ins, you can imagine building tracking classes 
> targeted at a very specific LMS.
>
> I will write op some documentation on this hopefully, before R2-Day...
>
>
> Tom
>
> Op 8-4-2013 10:14, Smith, John schreef:
>> Could we have the total result being a running total also as an 
>> option? Im hoping to be able to do an LO where they user does several 
>> sections and then end of section quizzes so need overall score rather 
>> than average score...
>>
>> Anyone tested the score in Blackboard? I can do that at this end when 
>> back to work tomorrow.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John Smith
>> Learning Technologist
>> School of Health and Life Sciences
>>
>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>>
>>
>>
>> Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> OK, good stuff,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
>> Reijnders
>> Sent: 05 April 2013 14:40
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] SCORM tracking
>>
>> I just committed the second stage of SCORM tracking work
>>
>> - quiz tracking is enabled again, but it doesn't look at/ need the 
>> optional parameters at all. At the moment the tracking is enabled 
>> when a scorm package is exported. Also, you now can have two quizes
>> (quizzes?) in a LO. The total result will be the weighted average.
>>
>> I want to get rid of the quiz parameters dealing with scorm and 
>> replace the quiz specific optional scorm tracking parameters with 
>> optional LO scorm parameters:
>>    - Do not track at all
>>    - Do minimal tracking, ie. only final score
>>    - Do full tracking with times spent in all pages, scores on 
>> individual questions, etc.
>>
>> Mind you, this is still work in progress, and I am testing in all 
>> kinds of scorm environments at the moment.
>>
>> Primary goall: robustness.
>>
>> Another goal is to be able to use a LO from XOT as a SCORM LO, i.e.
>>
>> When you have xot and moodle installed next to each other (with 
>> moodle integration), create a scorm manifest that uses the LO from 
>> XOT, without export. Much easier to maintain, but there are some 
>> gotchas there.  To be continued.
>>
>> Tom
>>
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