[Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT

Pat Lockley patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
Mon Oct 29 21:57:33 GMT 2012


Quite, but people we are agreed modularity and empowering are good, so
lets work out how to do that and spend time on code, not on typing

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>> I'm sort of confused as to why some here are so adamant about including
>> page connectors with a base install.
>
> We're not trying to take them away.
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> The FWS need applies to quite a lot of people who install XOT too. Tweaking
> xwd's is beyond what some will do.
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> They don't access the SVN only the zip download - which is already 1.8 and
> already includes the connectors apart from Scenario as part of the base
> install and 'official release'
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> If a future release or update provides options for easily
> including/excluding page types via management etc and then a base + options
> feature or even more modularity great! I think Tom already has most of that
> ready to go for 1.8 but not yet part of management. Pat obviously has even
> further modularity in 1.9.
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> There was a lot of interest in connectors at the agm. My point is simply
> that the lack of clarity about use of page ID and debate about navigation
> can be resolved with help and improvements/changes not by removing the
> connectors from base 1.8 install when there isn't a current FWS option for
> enabling/disabling them.
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
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> Sent: 29 October 2012 20:35
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in
> XOT
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>>Page connectors could be the same - just support the addition of them, and
>> let them work in their own way
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> Which is what I was getting at it the "app store" bespoke version.
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> I'm sort of confused as to why some here are so adamant about including page
> connectors with a base install.
>
> We're not trying to take them away.
>
>
>
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> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:20:12 +0000
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in
> XOT
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> What we must avoid is a situation where people try and build content and
> then give up because it just doesn't work quite right, and have then
> essentially wasted their time. This is an important principle for toolkits.
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> This....
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> Then maybe the connector pages should be withdrawn from the XOT release
> until we have a common approach to the pages and resolved the navigation
> options.
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> And this are two sides of the same coin
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> People need to be able to know their contributions are worthwhile else they
> won't contribute. Part of 1.9 is making it more modular, but also 1.9 is all
> me so far and for all I know it'll get thrown away.
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>
> But we fix this with a road map and modularisation. You want to mess the
> site up, go ahead. But out of the box is this.
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> As a side point, the XOT Wordpress plugin gets about 100 downloads a month
> and I support that all by myself.
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> I.e with modularisation we can decentralise code and the project. Every
> Drupal install uses views but it is optional. Page connectors could be the
> same - just support the addition of them, and let them work in their own way
>
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