[Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats

Tom Reijnders reijnders at tor.nl
Thu Nov 22 07:23:24 GMT 2012


We are, aren't we? We do have a 1.8 branch.
And we should make a branch for the december 7 release. And fixes should 
go in there as well as trunk.

It is a bit unfortunate that your branch is called 1.9, that should have 
been pats_1.9. But, we can work around that, perhaps even renaming your 
branch.

Tom

Op 22-11-2012 0:06, Pat Lockley schreef:
> Also, should we move to a more formal trunk way of working where the 
> branches are old releases?
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Pat Lockley 
> <patrick.lockley at googlemail.com 
> <mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I don't get the process here though and there is a lot of core I
>     can't test - no ldap, no multiuser and sharing and so on. Could
>     the sandbox switch to 1.9?
>
>     Alternatively, I could commit into 1.8 as I suspect I've changed
>     maybe 10 files (if that)
>
>     On 21 Nov 2012, at 22:32, Julian Tenney
>     <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     > well, I think it will be for you to attempt to merge, and when
>     you have code in files that have changed since you branched, it's
>     going to be down to you to make sure your new code doesn't break
>     anything that has changed since you branched. I don't think too
>     much has - you can also get a log of each file so you can step
>     through changes that have been mde to that file. I'm guessing that
>     to ull this off, you'll have changed some core stuff, but I don't
>     know how much. From our point ofview the only thing that has
>     changed is the html5 stuff, and that is mostly client side. My own
>     changes are client side, but might have fixed the odd PHP thing.
>     >
>     > Ron, Tom and David are the most likely to be able to comment on
>     any PHP changes since 1.8 they have made.
>     >
>     > Probably worth trying at first into a dummy folder or something
>     'safe', just to see how things pan out?
>     > ________________________________________
>     > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>     [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of
>     Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
>     <mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>]
>     > Sent: 21 November 2012 17:47
>     > To: For Xerte technical developers
>     > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats
>     >
>     > i've never merged before........
>     >
>     >
>     > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Julian Tenney
>     <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
>     > I don't think so. LTI just lets you open a door into the
>     application.
>     >
>     > I'd rather deal with this now, than later when it's more
>     complicated.
>     >
>     > Why not try merging, and see if it looks gribbly?
>     >
>     > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>] On Behalf Of
>     Pat Lockley
>     > Sent: 21 November 2012 16:36
>     >
>     > To: For Xerte technical developers
>     > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats
>     >
>     > Could do, and just leave out the new modules?
>     >
>     > The changes I discussed don't exist in 1.9 just yet - would
>     later in week.
>     >
>     > I need to list what's changed for the purposes of testing, but
>     am a bit worried that since the 1.9 branch was made a lot of new
>     stuff has joined 1.8 (LTI for example) and I might undo some
>     stuff? I can't see it clashing, but....
>     >
>     > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Julian Tenney
>     <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
>     > Why don't you merge in your mod stuff, it won't make a lot of
>     odds to most people, but will allow some cool stuff later... most
>     people won't see any difference, right?
>     >
>     >
>     > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>] On Behalf Of
>     Pat Lockley
>     > Sent: 21 November 2012 15:53
>     >
>     > To: For Xerte technical developers
>     > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats
>     >
>     > i could, but is the php in 1.8 svn?
>     >
>     > It isn't a lot of php (an if statement or two)
>     >
>     > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Julian Tenney
>     <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
>     > Could you do the php side? In the wizard we can add a parameter
>     to the LO playback="flash" which can be updated to playback="html"
>     for people who want to experiment with the beta.
>     >
>     > Then in the wizard we can do
>     >
>     > If (set as flash or undefined) //do it flash style
>     >
>     > Else
>     >
>     > //do it html5 style
>     >
>     > Appreciate the flash side is probably easier than the PHP side...
>     >
>     > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>] On Behalf Of
>     Pat Lockley
>     > Sent: 21 November 2012 14:45
>     >
>     > To: For Xerte technical developers
>     > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats
>     >
>     > -- Flash side --
>     >
>     > put a radio button in the editor
>     > add an extra parameter to the url generation code (event handler
>     for the play button)
>     >
>     > -- php side --
>     >
>     > Edit preview and play .php to check for this new $_GET and then
>     branch
>     >
>     > -- .htaccess side --
>     >
>     > Mod the reg exp
>     >
>     > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Julian Tenney
>     <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
>     > Time is of the essence for the 1.9 drop because we want to get
>     that done by 30th November, so I like what you're saying, but
>     wonder if it can be done in time...?
>     >
>     > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>] On Behalf Of
>     Pat Lockley
>     > Sent: 21 November 2012 13:29
>     >
>     > To: For Xerte technical developers
>     > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats
>     >
>     > Well it depends on what we call "now"
>     >
>     >
>     > It's a bit roadmappy, but for 1.9 you'd not have html_play.php
>     and play.php, but one play.php which would then switch on the
>     variable set (within the module folder).
>     >
>     > You'd have an option somewhere of setting "HTML5" somehow
>     (perhaps a radio box on the editor?) which would then send a
>     request to set this session to be "HTML5" and all previews from
>     then on would be HTML5 mode.
>     >
>     > Then you add an extension to the current play rule in htaccess
>     to support a "third" variable, so play_560_html would play the
>     template in HTML5 mode. In the future, play_560_scorm would do the
>     scorm export. As long as play_560_[a-z]+ was handled in the php
>     play code for that module you could do whatever you wanted to do.
>     >
>     > In theory you could also have preview_560_html as well
>     >
>     > It seems neater to me, but this is me speaking from my cave.
>     >
>     > Oooh a flint.
>     >
>     > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Julian Tenney
>     <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
>     > I like to generalise solutions too. What would the implications
>     be for what we have now?
>     >
>     > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>] On Behalf Of
>     Pat Lockley
>     > Sent: 21 November 2012 12:43
>     > To: For Xerte technical developers
>     > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Players and alternative formats
>     >
>     > Hello all,
>     >
>     > This is a message from deep inside modularisation caves so it
>     might not apply to all.
>     >
>     > I have a semi working google maps making template, and when it
>     "plays" at present it draws a map using the google maps API.
>     >
>     > However, the play could also generate a KML file for people to
>     download, or if the map couldn't load it could provide the data in
>     a different way.
>     >
>     > So then I thought this is effectively the HTML5 option (and you
>     might argue the xml download, export, scorm are also "plays").
>     >
>     > So I was thinking that rather than using ctrl + click, or extra
>     buttons, you could facilitate an extra request variable
>     consistently across modules.
>     >
>     > Ergo you post a "HTML5" option at the URL and you get HTML5
>     back, you post a "XML" and get xml, or "JSON" and get json.
>     >
>     > This way the URL Library doesn't need to change all the time, or
>     the .htaccess, but you also get different plays for each module
>     (and they are all distinct).
>     >
>     > Thoughts?
>     >
>     > Pat
>     >
>     >
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