[Xerte-dev] Re: rss containing html5 links

Mon Nov 19 15:51:55 GMT 2012

Not sure about that.

Sounds fine for controlling the default/priority but I think authors should
have a quick an easy way of previewing and playing either Flash version or
HTML5 version regardless of what the default is. Changing the properties of
an LO to do that wouldn't really be quick and easy especially as you might
want to do that multiple times while authoring.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 19 November 2012 15:36
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: rss containing html5 links

I'd prefer it to work off the one button I think. 

I think the user should set it as a LO property. For new projects created
after we implement this, the xml can already have <learningObject
player="html".> property set. The user can turn that to Flash if desired. If
pieces don't have that property (old pieces) then we should still use Flash
as the default player (but the user can 'upgrade' if they want).

Does that sound like a good approach?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 19 November 2012 14:27
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: rss containing html5 links

Could we squeeze an HTML5 logo button in between "Preview"  and the divider?
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=html5+logo
<https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=html5+logo&aq=f&sugexp=chrome,mod%3D7&um=
1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=bUGqUN3ZM4mZ0QXpw4Eg&biw=
1416&bih=1274&sei=cUGqUIicAuel0QXOmIDIDg>
&aq=f&sugexp=chrome,mod%3D7&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=
wi&ei=bUGqUN3ZM4mZ0QXpw4Eg&biw=1416&bih=1274&sei=cUGqUIicAuel0QXOmIDIDg 

Regards,

John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:24 PM
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: rss containing html5 links

it would "spoil" but it is also

1) Easy
2) Obvious to users what it does
3) Easy to remove when done

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:

We already have preview_html5.php what I don't know how or where to achieve
is detecting Ctrl + click on the workspace preview button to force html5
preview. Maybe there's a better way to do that but clearly there isn't
really room for another button.

If you're suggesting adding a preview_htlm5.php link to the bottom of
peview.php? that would spoil the look of the Flash preview wouldn't it.

Going to park this for now but perhaps someone else can add whatever is
required.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 19 November 2012 13:33

To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: rss containing html5 links

edit preview.php in modules xerte and add text at bottom?

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:

not sure how to do that or more importantly how to detect the Ctrl click.
Might have to leave that to someone else.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 19 November 2012 13:19

To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: rss containing html5 links

Why not just add a "preview in HTML / preview default" option at the bottom
of preview?

Seems neater?

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:

might have been the play buttons in the main workspace

ah yeah I mentioned previously that I think the workspace preview button
needs a similar function to what Julian has added to the editor e.g. hold
Ctrl + click to preview html5 version. Not sure I can do that.

You could have a "click here to see more on RSS" which just opens the
workspaceproperties page?

Will have a look at adding something like that...

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:

Can you remember what it does? Perhaps someone else knows?

Part of the problem is that the RSS tab already scrolls vertically because
there are quite a lot of instructions. I wonder whether a short-term
solution is just to add an instruction e.g. 

The main feed is at  <http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php>
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php. This includes all content marked
for inclusion from the site's users. Note: to share the html5 links rather
than Flash links use  <http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php?html5>
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php?html5 instead or simply append
&html5 to the link below.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 19 November 2012 12:28
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: rss containing html5 links

I can't remember where the JS is called.....

I think the RSS tab should display a list of feeds that project is in

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:

responses below...

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 19 November 2012 12:13

To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: rss containing html5 links

I can't remember if there is a JS file, I tried to remember the other day
but couldn't recall. It has been 2 years after all.

:-) well it seems to be working without any js changes and I guess in any
case this is just in addition to what's already there at the moment rather
than changes to core functionality so shouldn't break anything.

The RSS tab is about putting things into a feed, whereas the properties
window is about that LO? So you could argue perhaps the RSS tab should have
a "this LO is in the following feeds" list?

Yes probably but at the moment all I've looked to do is to enable the html5
rss links to work rather than decide where to display those links. However I
think most XOT users only see the rss links via LO properties and the RSS
tab as that's the properties panel they open most. It's only those who
import projects that ever view the workspace properties panel and even then
I'm not sure they ever visit the my feeds tab.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:

Well yes there are also rss links in workspace properties but for now I was
concentrating on the rss tab of LO properties e.g. when an author selects an
LO, clicks properties and visits the rss tab.

url_library is one of the files I updated but I haven't updated an .js files
- what js files need to be updated and why? Can you help with that Pat?

I've only made changes to my local .htaccess so far (attached as a txt file)
which is why I posed question 2.

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 19 November 2012 11:58
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: rss containing html5 links

Are they not in workspace properties?

if you update .htaccess , or htaccess.conf, you also need to update
url_library.php and one of the JS files

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:

Hi all

I've been testing how to have the rss feeds display html5 links instead of
flash links and have just committed some changes to enable this. 

I discovered something I never knew before last week that appending ?export
to the end of /rss.php changes the feed and links to show the LO's set for
the export feed. So now with the changes I've committed appending ?html5 (or
&html5 if there are other parameters like username and/or foldername)
changes the links to play the html5 version rather than flash version. I
think the RSS feeds become even more useful when it comes to mobile device
consumption.

I've uploaded these changes to the techdis install so for example:

Normal rss feed: http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php

HTML5 version http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php?html5

Likewise:

http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php?username=Ron_Mitchell

http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php?username=Ron_Mitchell
<http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php?username=Ron_Mitchell&html5>
&html5

and also:

http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php?username=Ron_Mitchell
<http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php?username=Ron_Mitchell&folder_name=
tests> &folder_name=tests

http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php?username=Ron_Mitchell
<http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/rss.php?username=Ron_Mitchell&folder_name=
tests&html5> &folder_name=tests&html5

This raises a couple of questions:

1. Should these links or at the very least instructions be displayed in the
RSS properties panel?

2. I've tested with apache set to true and had to obviously add additional
lines in the .htaccess. I looked at adding these changes to htaccess.conf in
the setup folder but that doesn't seem to have all the current links
required even without the additional lines required for html5. Has anyone
been keeping that up-to-date?

Cheers

Ron

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