[Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Fri May 11 12:25:48 BST 2012

Thanks Tom

Have uploaded to the test install but the 2004 export doesn't appear to be
fixed? Now loads the workspace in the properties window rather than a blank
window as previously.

Is it easier to just have the local export link like previously rather than
the checkbox and just change the wording slightly?

Export for deployment with local links

Same as above but select this option if you want references to files
uploaded to this LO via the Media

& Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required.

Not sure if the convert to local functionality has ever been part of the
SCORM export or whether it should be or not. Do you still have plans to get
the SCORM tracking to work from XOT rather than exporting everything? 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 11 May 2012 12:02
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

I committed the code and the UI of the last screen dump. This also fixes the
SCORM 2004 export.

It is not trivila (for me) to add the checkbox, so I haven't done that
(yet). That leaves only one question for me at the moment.

To go 'local' or not to go 'local'... and for which exports....

Op 11-5-2012 12:50, Julian Tenney schreef: 

Yes, this is what we have and Ron's words describe it well!

Thanks everyone.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 11 May 2012 11:50
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Ehmmm, can we get to a consensus ...

This is what I have up and running now...

Op 11-5-2012 12:48, Ron Mitchell schreef: 

ok here goes - revision of what we have right now...

There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged,
but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to
deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can
choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files
used by the project.

Export:

1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing
into a vle (without SCORM tracking), sharing via CD or USB etc or importing
into another XOT installation.

Checkbox (unchecked by default) Convert to local links where possible
Tick here if you want references to files uploaded to this LO via the Media
& Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required.

2. Archive export. Complete backup including all required files for offline
editing with the Xerte developer application or for sharing with other Xerte
developer application users.

If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or
SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the
SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems.

SCORM Export:

4.SCORM 1.2 package

5.SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package

HTH
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 11 May 2012 11:27
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be

covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and
perhaps now the community site.

No, I think we need to find the words to explain the scenario for this
option on the tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 11 May 2012 11:25
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Because that could lead to chaos! ;-)

It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to
convert to local if required.

Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be
covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and
perhaps now the community site.

Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox?

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

i mean for sysadmins

you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people
set it their way.

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney
 <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
wrote:

Flippin Well Simple.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
Reijnders
Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04

To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

FWS ???

Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef:

Suggestion (to save inboxes)

Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have

export.inc as the default

if

export_modified.inc exists

then this is loaded instead of export

so you can have your own interface?

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell 
 <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:

For me the real value of the local export is this:

User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to 
link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they 
import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are 
accessing from XOT all fine.

Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author 
then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to 
local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to 
local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's 
may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so 
connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the 
media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially

where assets are shared or updated regularly.

The checkbox option gives the author control which is great.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
Reijnders
Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point
2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make 
those two links in that line?

And what do we do with 'local'

All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo 
somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we 
only need to figure out how to do the UI right now.

Tom

Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef:

OK, lets do that.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron 
Mitchell
Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and 
effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to 
swap 1 and 3

1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for 
importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc 
or importing into another XOT install

2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM
2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook

3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and 
round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian 
Tenney
Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron 
Mitchell
Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.<

I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't 
developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might 
start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the 
same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the 
way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's 
installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday 
who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and 
exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a 
selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but 
please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to?

Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as 
self contained deployment - or is this different?<

In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than 
scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to 
index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from 
XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and 
obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another 
reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are 
often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module 
settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking 
isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are 
tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a 
need

for non-scorm deployment.

So tweaking your list...

1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and 
round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users.

2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for 
importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc 
or importing into another XOT install

3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM
2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook

HTH

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian 
Tenney
Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios:

Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004

Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as 
self contained deployment - or is this different?)

Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this 
is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well?

That's all of them?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian 
Tenney
Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

This is starting to feel like a FWS failure.

In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the 
originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e.
'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/'

Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows
-> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in 
-> the

future.

I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, 
connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than 
there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, 
with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / 
referenced in

the project.

AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.

It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at 
different locations. When these projects are imported, the project 
folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to 
happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just 
easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving 
install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with 
the

receiving systems models / engine etc?).

The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron 
Mitchell
Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever 
zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte.

However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media 
in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of 
not including the files required to edit unless including them causes 
a

problem?

Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe 
keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have 
to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously 
the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this 
context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files 
required to edit as part of all the exports?

Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to 
local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how 
to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if 
there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload 
to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's.
This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place 
so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or 
localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo.

Cheers

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
Reijnders
Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them.
The zip archives just contain the bare minimum.

I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen....
and then get rid of option 3.

Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef:

Have committed that small mod.

As far as I can tell option 3 works like this...

I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url 
link

I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere

export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder 
but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links

export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota 
to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url.

I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a 
different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I 
guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert 
the links to local links if the same lo.

However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the 
moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported 
with option 2 and 3.  If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but 
then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the 
file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine.

In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via 
properties

media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is

uploaded.

I'll add these issues to the Google doc.

HTH

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
Reijnders
Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-)

Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef:

Hi Tom

on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy 
that has <br></br> in the relevant places e.g.

Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification?

Cheers

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron 
Mitchell
Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each 
link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake.

HTH

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
Reijnders
Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

How about this for now?

Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef:

I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what 
it is doing.

Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef:

Do we need to add some wording to  make this easy to understand: I 
might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so 
it

might read:

---------------------------------------

There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is 
packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with 
another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM 
compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the 
project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some

explanation around option 3 here].

Export   Zip Archive with all media files from the project

                Zip Archive with just the media files used in the 
project

                Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda

If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM
1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM 
you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems.

Export   Scorm 1.2 Package

                Scorm 2004 Package.

---------------------------------------

Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the 
point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail...

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
Reijnders
Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef:

Yep.

-----Original Message-----

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
Reijnders

Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30

To: For Xerte technical developers

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you 
guys

last week... :-)

I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the

functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree?

Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef:

Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip?

Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports.

I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one.

-----Original Message-----

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
Reijnders

Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52

To: For Xerte technical developers

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that 
there

are 5 exports:

Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or

mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to

look at that.

Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls

SCORM 1.2

SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data

SCORM 2004

As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use

SCORM with extra MetaData)

Tom

Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef:

I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads 
of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each 
filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports
it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option.

Otherwise we start ending up with a  slightly baffling local? Scorm?
Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get

something out.

Are these changes on the test server now?

-----Original Message-----

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
Reijnders

Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23

To: For Xerte technical developers

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export,

The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the

export/download discussion.

Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef:

Hi

Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs&

Friday...

Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include 
all

the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being

sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via 
text

hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document 
rather than

a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular 
page

or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they 
might

not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might 
not

work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes 
that

export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size 
they

can delete unwanted media via media&    quota before exporting. e.g.
owner

should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might 
simply be

as a backup of the whole project.

HTH

Ron

-----Original Message-----

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk

[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
Reijnders

Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25

To: For Xerte technical developers

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes)

I just committed an update to the export code:

Fixes and additions for export

     - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the 
/language

folder

     - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export

     - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only 
if those

models are used

     - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied

     - small fixes in htaccess.conf

     - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php

     - get rid of superfuous scorm files

     - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of 
scorm in

in their own folder (modules/xerte/export)

I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well...

David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos.
Comitted

thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a

password in the database... ;-)

Tom

Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef:

i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might

conflict.

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders <mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>
<reijnders at tor.nl>     wrote:

I will, but they are really simple.

Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef:

Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones

might have hungry regexs?

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin
<mailto:david at palepurple.co.uk> <david at palepurple.co.uk>

     wrote:

On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote:

i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers

Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :)

David.

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