[Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages

Sun May 6 22:31:17 BST 2012

I just checked on the web site and everything appears to be working now.

When I get a chance I will update the bug list spreadsheet and the pages on
the website that have been affected by the changes. But it may take me a
day or so as I have a hell of a lot on at the moment.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 6 May 2012 21:46, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:

> If that's the case then unless I'm doing something wrong I think that
> updated XMLEngine.swf can't yet be in the XOT svn. e.g. the one in the svn
> and on the test server and my local install as far as I can tell was last
> updated  02/05/2012 13:58
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 06 May 2012 20:53
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages
>
>
>
> If for you it is only the navigation disabling that is not working then
> the problem is the copy of XMLEngine.swf is not the most recent as Julian
> added a new method to the buttons so that I could disable them.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 6 May 2012 20:32, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Jonathan
>
> I've just been checking this and the test server definitely has all the
> latest code from the xot svn. As far as I can tell changing colour on menu
> over is working but as you say disabling navigation doesn't appear to be.
>
>
>
> To test further I updated my local xampp copy replacing all the code apart
> from user-files and database.php and exactly the same combination of what
> works and what doesn't appears with that too.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 06 May 2012 10:49
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages
>
>
>
> Sorry I could not reply yesterday, I was unable to access my email account
> due to problems at their end.
>
>
>
> I have checked the website and the Menu for the Connector pages is still
> showing the correct fields in the xwd form but the expected results in
> terms of disabled navigation and changing colour of menu options on mouse
> over are not showing.
>
>
>
> I have updated my copy of the XOT svn and confirmed that the
> connectorMenu.rlm file is the latest version (XOT
> svn/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/).
>
>
>
> I probably won't get any more time today to look at this.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 5 May 2012 11:59, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Ok try again - don't have time to check right now - going offline - but I
> just replaced all files rather than just updated - hopefully that resolves
> this but if not I'll have to check again later.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 05 May 2012 10:38
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages
>
>
>
> I have just replaced the Connector menu page at the start of the
> Connectors section.
>
>
>
> The correct data.xwd is in place as I am now seeing the correct navigation
> properties being offered and the optional colour properties that allow you
> to change the colour of the menu. However navigation buttons are not
> showing as disabled, which suggests that the latest version of
> XMLEngine.swf may not be installed.
>
>
>
> Also I added the optional colour properties and changed the colours that
> should display when hovering over a menu item and these effects are not
> happening in the page. So I am wondering if the correct model file is in
> place?
>
>
>
> If you take a look at the Connector menu page at the start of the
> Connector pages section you should see what I mean.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 5 May 2012 09:28, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Jonathan/all
>
> sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test
> install now updated with latest code/updates etc
>
> Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot
> anything broken with the connector pages?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 04 May 2012 22:12
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages
>
>
>
> I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and
> also the newly generated data.xwd.
>
>
>
> These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing.
>
>
>
> Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in
> and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options
> and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the
> performance of the pages until I can recreate them.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:
>
> Johnathan, that would be fine yes.
>
> Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
>
> Thanks for the update.
>
>
>
> With respect to the XOT repository
>
> it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT
> repository
>
> with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository
>
>
>
> cMcq.rlm
>
> connectorHotspotImage.rlm
>
> connectorMenu.rlm
>
> connectorPlainText.rlm
>
> cRedirector.rlm
>
> cTabNav.rlm
>
> inventory.rlm
>
> quiz.rlm
>
> scenario.rlm
>
> youtube.rlm
>
> youtuberss.rlm
>
>
>
> the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd
> file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder.
>
>
>
> Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the
> appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you
> are concerned re-svn histories?
>
>
>
> Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:
>
> Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository
> Updated build script to obey restrict
> rebuilt xerte-beta.exe
>
>
> Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
>
> OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models.
>
>
>
> Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the
> Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed
> into the PageWizards section of the svn.
>
>
>
> I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash
> player permissions.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:
>
> perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop",
> restrict="template"
>
> Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef:
>
> Yes, that would be fine...
>
> basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that.
> The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of
> the generated template.xwd)
>
> Tom
>
> Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
>
> I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but
> it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it
> generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in
> newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the
> restrict property in the <wizard tag as every xwd has that tag?
>
>
>
> e.g.s
>
>
>
> <wizard
> menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc"
> restrict="t">  // example for basic.xwd
>
>
>
> <wizard menus="Misc" restrict="d">  // example for indexChanger.xwd
>
>
>
> Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte
> and XOT
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:
>
> Yes, the restrict would be perfect.
>
> I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose
> all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that)
>
> Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
>
> Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be
> included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that
> contain it from breaking?
>
>
>
> I have been checking over earlier discussions.
>
>
>
> My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model
> and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn.
>
>
>
> I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards
> section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section,
> which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make
> sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for
> the next release of Xerte.
>
>
>
> Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer
> to do that Tom?
>
>
>
> I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to
> identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger
> page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that
> belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page).
>
>
>
> I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages
>
>
>
> restrict="d" // desktop
>
> restrict="t" // toolkits
>
>
>
> if that would meet your requirements.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:
>
> The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't
> work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed
> into a paid service)
>
> So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think.
>
> Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
>
> Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not
> need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no
> changes to the two youtube pages xwd files.
>
>
>
> Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file?
>
>
>
> The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do
> not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm /
> translation.xwd
>
> The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having
> the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name
> property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is
> why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel.
>
>
>
> The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section
> of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems
> with the Google translation service.
>
>
>
> However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility.
>
>
>
> I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT
> repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the
> data.xwd file.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates
> to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page.
>
>
>
> I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube
> individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the
> svn of these pages.
>
>
>
> The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in
> none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing
> Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages.
>
>
>
> As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models conform
> to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated pages
> can be tried out in the XOT beta.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
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