From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 08:27:07 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 08:27:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: [Xerte] FW: FF issues with Xerte Message-ID: <002e01cd276b$d2b71450$78253cf0$@co.uk> Hi all This issue was reported on the main list and just to add as well as the same problem existing on the 1.8 beta we also appear to have an older rlm because when the feed page loads the video player is loading larger than the interface e.g. page 60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 Clearly that was something Julian fixed ages ago so seems another example where perhaps the merge has screwed things up a bit. Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 01 May 2012 08:20 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] FW: FF issues with Xerte I've not found the cause/solution but I've seen that too and have investigated previously but it seems intermittent. I don't think it's browser specific and at one point I thought it only happened when previewing not via the public link but I just checked on the 1.8 beta install and the issue exists there too. However it doesn't appear on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 I think the small scroll bar and the scrolling issue reported are linked because scrolling is fine when the small scroll bar doesn't appear. So it's a problem we need to resolve for both older versions and 1.8. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 01 May 2012 07:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] FW: FF issues with Xerte This cropped up using the YouTube feed pagetype on XOT in the last XerteFriday session. Any ideas what the odd rendering highlighted in green is about? A From: Kenji Lamb [mailto:klamb at soffed.com] Sent: 27 April 2012 13:54 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: FF issues with Xerte Hi Alistair, Enjoying your presentation on Xerte! This was the issue I ran into with the YouTube template... seemed to be an odd slidebar in one panel (highlighted in the screenshot), also scrolling down the list of YouTube videos for some reason was difficult, i.e. not a smooth scroll, not sure if that was just me though. I was using the latest version of Firefox. ;-) Kenji Lamb Soffed e: klamb at soffed.com w: www.soffed.com m: 0788 8950 341 t: @kenjilamb l: www.linkedin.com/in/kklamb _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4962 - Release Date: 04/27/12 This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 09:32:24 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 09:32:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: [Xerte] FW: FF issues with Xerte In-Reply-To: <002e01cd276b$d2b71450$78253cf0$@co.uk> References: <002e01cd276b$d2b71450$78253cf0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA38C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> In any case, we need to rework the youtube pages, because as of September there will not be an AS2 player to load into Flash. So we will have to embed it smoke and mirrors style. We should do that for this release - I'll have a look at it at some point. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 08:27 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: [Xerte] FW: FF issues with Xerte Hi all This issue was reported on the main list and just to add as well as the same problem existing on the 1.8 beta we also appear to have an older rlm because when the feed page loads the video player is loading larger than the interface e.g. page 60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 Clearly that was something Julian fixed ages ago so seems another example where perhaps the merge has screwed things up a bit. Ron From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 01 May 2012 08:20 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] FW: FF issues with Xerte I've not found the cause/solution but I've seen that too and have investigated previously but it seems intermittent. I don't think it's browser specific and at one point I thought it only happened when previewing not via the public link but I just checked on the 1.8 beta install and the issue exists there too. However it doesn't appear on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 I think the small scroll bar and the scrolling issue reported are linked because scrolling is fine when the small scroll bar doesn't appear. So it's a problem we need to resolve for both older versions and 1.8. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 01 May 2012 07:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] FW: FF issues with Xerte This cropped up using the YouTube feed pagetype on XOT in the last XerteFriday session. Any ideas what the odd rendering highlighted in green is about? A From: Kenji Lamb [mailto:klamb at soffed.com] Sent: 27 April 2012 13:54 To: Alistair McNaught Subject: FF issues with Xerte Hi Alistair, Enjoying your presentation on Xerte! This was the issue I ran into with the YouTube template... seemed to be an odd slidebar in one panel (highlighted in the screenshot), also scrolling down the list of YouTube videos for some reason was difficult, i.e. not a smooth scroll, not sure if that was just me though. I was using the latest version of Firefox. ;-) Kenji Lamb Soffed e: klamb at soffed.com w: www.soffed.com m: 0788 8950 341 t: @kenjilamb l: www.linkedin.com/in/kklamb ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4962 - Release Date: 04/27/12 This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 09:45:02 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 09:45:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'm unsure about PHP5. I know PHP4 is old as old, but as I said, the systems guys here only just moved to 5, and no doubt there are other places where 4 is installed. What was the reason to move up? Is there a PHP4 compliant solution? One of the things with toolkits is about removing barriers. This potentially creates one, and I don't think it would be an easy ask to get PHP upgraded just to install toolkits in an institution. I don't have a feel for how many servers still run PHP4, so I'm unsure. Shall we vote? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 30 April 2012 19:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code I don't know who should decide on php 4/5 and yes, at the moment I feel it is Julian's decision to make. If PHP 5, I can give you the xwd builder code this week. The only thing missing really is the user interface, i.e. the possibillity to choose a 'page' to be added/replaced into a given template. The rest is there. Tom Op 30-4-2012 19:33, Pat Lockley schreef: > if you use all the files then you can ignore the session variable > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> You guessed correctly Pat - adding that proved your theory correct e.g. >> export works, no corrupted zip and languages folder and config included so >> exported LO plays. >> >> That said I was testing the export while logged in so not sure why it wasn't >> picking up that session. >> >> Given the subsequent discussion between you and Tom re all the files should >> be included it sounds like this won't suffice anyway. If that's the case >> what's the solution? >> >> Tom do you need confirmation from Julian that going with PHP 5.2+ is ok? >> Also when would we be able to include the xwd builder/rebuilder in the >> management section? >> >> Cheers >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 30 April 2012 17:42 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >> >> is this export when logged in? >> >> I would guess $_SESSION doesn't exist in export as it can be used by people >> not logged in? >> >> put something like >> >> if(!isset($_SESSION['default_language'])){ >> >> $_SESSION['default_language'] = "en-gb"; (or whatever it is) >> >> } >> >> before the language copy code. >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Ron Mitchell >> wrote: >>> Thanks Pat but no luck so far :-( >>> Been testing this, commenting out headers lines etc but export worked >>> fine in terms of not a corrupt zip before Julian added the following: >>> >>> mkdir($dir_path . 'languages'); >>> chmod($dir_path . 'languages', 0777); >>> array_push($delete_folder_array, $dir_path . 'languages'); >>> >>> >>> copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml", $dir_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml"); >>> >>> array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml"); >>> >>> >>> copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml", $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> and export also works with the lest two of those lines commented out e.g. >>> >>> //copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml", $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> //array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> Could the issue be with $_SESSION['default_language']? I tried >>> removing the session reference and replacing with en-GB but without >>> success. However with those two lines commented out the export does >>> include the languages folder just not the engine_en-GB.xml file so play >> still doesn't work. >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 April 2012 14:13 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>> >>> it might be in archive - it's not wrong per say - there was one option >>> with the PHP header settings which broke it in IE and firefox. >>> >>> Try commenting out the header lines to see if it changes stuff. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Ron Mitchell >>> >>> wrote: >>>> Can't find any reference to header in export.php but then can't in >>>> previous versions either? >>>> There is reference to header in archive.php but can't spot anything >>>> wrong with that. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:47 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>> >>>> in export.php there is a call to a php function called header >>>> >>>> whenever a zip is corrupt on export I'd look there. >>>> >>>> Compare those calls to the current zip >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Ron Mitchell >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Not sure what that means :-( Where do we look/check for that? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>> Lockley >>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:43 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>> >>>>> have the header calls in PHP changed? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Ron Mitchell >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Julian >>>>>> >>>>>> not sure if you've tried export since updating export.php but I >>>>>> uploaded to the test server and my local copies and all of them now >>>>>> generate corrupt zips? Tried Firefox as well as IE so it's not the >>>>>> old/intermittent IE problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Julian Tenney >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 12:09 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, with a dash. I looked it up somewhere, I thought that was the >>>>>> 'standard' way? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Why rename $SESSION['default_language']? Seems appropriate..? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> David Goodwin >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 12:08 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 12:00, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> $_SESSION['default_language'] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's identical to the directory name in /languages/. E.g. en-GB (I >>>> think). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've only noticed en_GB (using an underscore) before, but you seem >>>>>> to use en-GB (using a dash '-') >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This would be the string 'en_GB', right? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> David Goodwin >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 10:43 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 09:02, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I re-added the export code I originally added in rev 60 back into >>>>>> export.php. How to know which language to export? Also, the way the >>>>>> the engine handles languages is to look in language-config.php. How >>>>>> to know what is indicated in there? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> language-config.php ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You could use $_SESSION['default_language'] - although perhaps this >>>>>> variable needs renaming. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>>> immediately delete it. 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I created a quick Google form https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHNYMDJmd0VzMlROUl8xLTV yX1RJb0E6MQ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 09:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code I'm unsure about PHP5. I know PHP4 is old as old, but as I said, the systems guys here only just moved to 5, and no doubt there are other places where 4 is installed. What was the reason to move up? Is there a PHP4 compliant solution? One of the things with toolkits is about removing barriers. This potentially creates one, and I don't think it would be an easy ask to get PHP upgraded just to install toolkits in an institution. I don't have a feel for how many servers still run PHP4, so I'm unsure. Shall we vote? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 30 April 2012 19:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code I don't know who should decide on php 4/5 and yes, at the moment I feel it is Julian's decision to make. If PHP 5, I can give you the xwd builder code this week. The only thing missing really is the user interface, i.e. the possibillity to choose a 'page' to be added/replaced into a given template. The rest is there. Tom Op 30-4-2012 19:33, Pat Lockley schreef: > if you use all the files then you can ignore the session variable > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> You guessed correctly Pat - adding that proved your theory correct e.g. >> export works, no corrupted zip and languages folder and config >> included so exported LO plays. >> >> That said I was testing the export while logged in so not sure why it >> wasn't picking up that session. >> >> Given the subsequent discussion between you and Tom re all the files >> should be included it sounds like this won't suffice anyway. If >> that's the case what's the solution? >> >> Tom do you need confirmation from Julian that going with PHP 5.2+ is ok? >> Also when would we be able to include the xwd builder/rebuilder in >> the management section? >> >> Cheers >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 April 2012 17:42 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >> >> is this export when logged in? >> >> I would guess $_SESSION doesn't exist in export as it can be used by >> people not logged in? >> >> put something like >> >> if(!isset($_SESSION['default_language'])){ >> >> $_SESSION['default_language'] = "en-gb"; (or whatever it is) >> >> } >> >> before the language copy code. >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Ron >> Mitchell >> wrote: >>> Thanks Pat but no luck so far :-( >>> Been testing this, commenting out headers lines etc but export >>> worked fine in terms of not a corrupt zip before Julian added the following: >>> >>> mkdir($dir_path . 'languages'); >>> chmod($dir_path . 'languages', 0777); >>> array_push($delete_folder_array, $dir_path . 'languages'); >>> >>> >>> copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml", $dir_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml"); >>> >>> array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml"); >>> >>> >>> copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml", $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> and export also works with the lest two of those lines commented out e.g. >>> >>> //copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml", $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> //array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> Could the issue be with $_SESSION['default_language']? I tried >>> removing the session reference and replacing with en-GB but without >>> success. However with those two lines commented out the export does >>> include the languages folder just not the engine_en-GB.xml file so >>> play >> still doesn't work. >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 April 2012 14:13 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>> >>> it might be in archive - it's not wrong per say - there was one >>> option with the PHP header settings which broke it in IE and firefox. >>> >>> Try commenting out the header lines to see if it changes stuff. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Ron Mitchell >>> >>> wrote: >>>> Can't find any reference to header in export.php but then can't in >>>> previous versions either? >>>> There is reference to header in archive.php but can't spot anything >>>> wrong with that. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:47 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>> >>>> in export.php there is a call to a php function called header >>>> >>>> whenever a zip is corrupt on export I'd look there. >>>> >>>> Compare those calls to the current zip >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Ron Mitchell >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Not sure what that means :-( Where do we look/check for that? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>> Lockley >>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:43 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>> >>>>> have the header calls in PHP changed? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Ron Mitchell >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Julian >>>>>> >>>>>> not sure if you've tried export since updating export.php but I >>>>>> uploaded to the test server and my local copies and all of them >>>>>> now generate corrupt zips? Tried Firefox as well as IE so it's >>>>>> not the old/intermittent IE problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Julian Tenney >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 12:09 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, with a dash. I looked it up somewhere, I thought that was >>>>>> the 'standard' way? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Why rename $SESSION['default_language']? Seems appropriate..? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> David Goodwin >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 12:08 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 12:00, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> $_SESSION['default_language'] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's identical to the directory name in /languages/. E.g. en-GB >>>>>> (I >>>> think). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've only noticed en_GB (using an underscore) before, but you >>>>>> seem to use en-GB (using a dash '-') >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This would be the string 'en_GB', right? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> David Goodwin >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 10:43 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 09:02, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I re-added the export code I originally added in rev 60 back into >>>>>> export.php. How to know which language to export? Also, the way >>>>>> the the engine handles languages is to look in >>>>>> language-config.php. How to know what is indicated in there? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> language-config.php ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You could use $_SESSION['default_language'] - although perhaps >>>>>> this variable needs renaming. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted >>>>>> by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 10:33:29 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 10:33:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <002401cd277d$6ad3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002401cd277d$6ad3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA416@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yeah, why not - I'm not sure they know the answer though. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 10:33 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code Shall we pose the question on the main list and teachers list and other relevant lists? I created a quick Google form https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHNYMDJmd0VzMlROUl8xLTV yX1RJb0E6MQ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 09:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code I'm unsure about PHP5. I know PHP4 is old as old, but as I said, the systems guys here only just moved to 5, and no doubt there are other places where 4 is installed. What was the reason to move up? Is there a PHP4 compliant solution? One of the things with toolkits is about removing barriers. This potentially creates one, and I don't think it would be an easy ask to get PHP upgraded just to install toolkits in an institution. I don't have a feel for how many servers still run PHP4, so I'm unsure. Shall we vote? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 30 April 2012 19:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code I don't know who should decide on php 4/5 and yes, at the moment I feel it is Julian's decision to make. If PHP 5, I can give you the xwd builder code this week. The only thing missing really is the user interface, i.e. the possibillity to choose a 'page' to be added/replaced into a given template. The rest is there. Tom Op 30-4-2012 19:33, Pat Lockley schreef: > if you use all the files then you can ignore the session variable > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> You guessed correctly Pat - adding that proved your theory correct e.g. >> export works, no corrupted zip and languages folder and config >> included so exported LO plays. >> >> That said I was testing the export while logged in so not sure why it >> wasn't picking up that session. >> >> Given the subsequent discussion between you and Tom re all the files >> should be included it sounds like this won't suffice anyway. If >> that's the case what's the solution? >> >> Tom do you need confirmation from Julian that going with PHP 5.2+ is ok? >> Also when would we be able to include the xwd builder/rebuilder in >> the management section? >> >> Cheers >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 April 2012 17:42 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >> >> is this export when logged in? >> >> I would guess $_SESSION doesn't exist in export as it can be used by >> people not logged in? >> >> put something like >> >> if(!isset($_SESSION['default_language'])){ >> >> $_SESSION['default_language'] = "en-gb"; (or whatever it is) >> >> } >> >> before the language copy code. >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Ron >> Mitchell >> wrote: >>> Thanks Pat but no luck so far :-( >>> Been testing this, commenting out headers lines etc but export >>> worked fine in terms of not a corrupt zip before Julian added the following: >>> >>> mkdir($dir_path . 'languages'); >>> chmod($dir_path . 'languages', 0777); >>> array_push($delete_folder_array, $dir_path . 'languages'); >>> >>> >>> copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml", $dir_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml"); >>> >>> array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml"); >>> >>> >>> copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml", $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> and export also works with the lest two of those lines commented out e.g. >>> >>> //copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml", $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> //array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> Could the issue be with $_SESSION['default_language']? I tried >>> removing the session reference and replacing with en-GB but without >>> success. However with those two lines commented out the export does >>> include the languages folder just not the engine_en-GB.xml file so >>> play >> still doesn't work. >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 April 2012 14:13 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>> >>> it might be in archive - it's not wrong per say - there was one >>> option with the PHP header settings which broke it in IE and firefox. >>> >>> Try commenting out the header lines to see if it changes stuff. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Ron Mitchell >>> >>> wrote: >>>> Can't find any reference to header in export.php but then can't in >>>> previous versions either? >>>> There is reference to header in archive.php but can't spot anything >>>> wrong with that. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:47 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>> >>>> in export.php there is a call to a php function called header >>>> >>>> whenever a zip is corrupt on export I'd look there. >>>> >>>> Compare those calls to the current zip >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Ron Mitchell >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Not sure what that means :-( Where do we look/check for that? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>> Lockley >>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:43 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>> >>>>> have the header calls in PHP changed? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Ron Mitchell >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Julian >>>>>> >>>>>> not sure if you've tried export since updating export.php but I >>>>>> uploaded to the test server and my local copies and all of them >>>>>> now generate corrupt zips? Tried Firefox as well as IE so it's >>>>>> not the old/intermittent IE problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Julian Tenney >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 12:09 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, with a dash. I looked it up somewhere, I thought that was >>>>>> the 'standard' way? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Why rename $SESSION['default_language']? Seems appropriate..? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> David Goodwin >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 12:08 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 12:00, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> $_SESSION['default_language'] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's identical to the directory name in /languages/. E.g. en-GB >>>>>> (I >>>> think). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've only noticed en_GB (using an underscore) before, but you >>>>>> seem to use en-GB (using a dash '-') >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This would be the string 'en_GB', right? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> David Goodwin >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 10:43 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 09:02, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I re-added the export code I originally added in rev 60 back into >>>>>> export.php. How to know which language to export? Also, the way >>>>>> the the engine handles languages is to look in >>>>>> language-config.php. How to know what is indicated in there? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> language-config.php ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You could use $_SESSION['default_language'] - although perhaps >>>>>> this variable needs renaming. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted >>>>>> by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 10:54:42 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 10:54:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte Online Toolkits 1.8 - Requirements Message-ID: <002501cd2780$70bdb370$52391a50$@co.uk> Apologies for cross posting: A quick survey question relevant to anyone using Xerte Online Toolkits and especially those hosting their own installation or planning to do so. We are finalising the development of the new release of Xerte Online Toolkits (1.8) which has some great new features including internationalisation (language support). We need a quick response to a question about PHP requirements and specifically whether requiring PHP 5.x rather than the now very old PHP 4.x would be a problem. To collate results we are using a Google form to capture responses: http://goo.gl/p9VWj If you are unable to answer this question yourself we'd be grateful if you could send the link to your technical team. http://goo.gl/p9VWj Ideally we need as many responses as soon as possible and by the end of this week. Thanks in advance. Ron PP the Xerte Development Community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 11:41:02 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:41:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 12:39:21 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:39:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Tue May 1 12:15:16 2012 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (Thomas Rochford) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:15:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <002401cd277d$6ad3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002401cd277d$6ad 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> Message-ID: <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> HI, Most of my users are certainly on PHP 5+, however I agree that a vote would be useful. The biggest snag I have come across is that RM, who provide the JANET (hosting service) do not permit the use of LDAP authentication. My ISP, Heart Internet - to whom my account has been transferred from my old provider but not at my request! - won't support ZLIB either. These are both fairly deadly to Moodle 2.2. and the LDAP issue could be a serious problem for XoT; I'm not sure if the export code uses ZLIB or not, it's said to create performance issues. I have asked JANET(UK) to look into the issue with RM as I believe it could also affect EduRoam so it makes it difficult for providers to make use of the service for authenticated sessions. Kindest regards, Thomas -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 10:33 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code Shall we pose the question on the main list and teachers list and other relevant lists? I created a quick Google form https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHNYMDJmd0VzMlROUl8xLTV yX1RJb0E6MQ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 09:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code I'm unsure about PHP5. I know PHP4 is old as old, but as I said, the systems guys here only just moved to 5, and no doubt there are other places where 4 is installed. What was the reason to move up? Is there a PHP4 compliant solution? One of the things with toolkits is about removing barriers. This potentially creates one, and I don't think it would be an easy ask to get PHP upgraded just to install toolkits in an institution. I don't have a feel for how many servers still run PHP4, so I'm unsure. Shall we vote? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 30 April 2012 19:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code I don't know who should decide on php 4/5 and yes, at the moment I feel it is Julian's decision to make. If PHP 5, I can give you the xwd builder code this week. The only thing missing really is the user interface, i.e. the possibillity to choose a 'page' to be added/replaced into a given template. The rest is there. Tom Op 30-4-2012 19:33, Pat Lockley schreef: > if you use all the files then you can ignore the session variable > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Ron > Mitchell wrote: >> You guessed correctly Pat - adding that proved your theory correct e.g. >> export works, no corrupted zip and languages folder and config >> included so exported LO plays. >> >> That said I was testing the export while logged in so not sure why it >> wasn't picking up that session. >> >> Given the subsequent discussion between you and Tom re all the files >> should be included it sounds like this won't suffice anyway. If >> that's the case what's the solution? >> >> Tom do you need confirmation from Julian that going with PHP 5.2+ is ok? >> Also when would we be able to include the xwd builder/rebuilder in >> the management section? >> >> Cheers >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 April 2012 17:42 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >> >> is this export when logged in? >> >> I would guess $_SESSION doesn't exist in export as it can be used by >> people not logged in? >> >> put something like >> >> if(!isset($_SESSION['default_language'])){ >> >> $_SESSION['default_language'] = "en-gb"; (or whatever it is) >> >> } >> >> before the language copy code. >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Ron >> Mitchell >> wrote: >>> Thanks Pat but no luck so far :-( >>> Been testing this, commenting out headers lines etc but export >>> worked fine in terms of not a corrupt zip before Julian added the following: >>> >>> mkdir($dir_path . 'languages'); >>> chmod($dir_path . 'languages', 0777); >>> array_push($delete_folder_array, $dir_path . 'languages'); >>> >>> >>> copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml", $dir_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml"); >>> >>> array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . >>> "languages/language-config.xml"); >>> >>> >>> copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml", $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> and export also works with the lest two of those lines commented out e.g. >>> >>> //copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml", $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> //array_push($delete_file_array, $dir_path . "languages/engine_" . >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>> >>> Could the issue be with $_SESSION['default_language']? I tried >>> removing the session reference and replacing with en-GB but without >>> success. However with those two lines commented out the export does >>> include the languages folder just not the engine_en-GB.xml file so >>> play >> still doesn't work. >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 April 2012 14:13 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>> >>> it might be in archive - it's not wrong per say - there was one >>> option with the PHP header settings which broke it in IE and firefox. >>> >>> Try commenting out the header lines to see if it changes stuff. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Ron Mitchell >>> >>> wrote: >>>> Can't find any reference to header in export.php but then can't in >>>> previous versions either? >>>> There is reference to header in archive.php but can't spot anything >>>> wrong with that. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:47 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>> >>>> in export.php there is a call to a php function called header >>>> >>>> whenever a zip is corrupt on export I'd look there. >>>> >>>> Compare those calls to the current zip >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Ron Mitchell >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Not sure what that means :-( Where do we look/check for that? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>> Lockley >>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:43 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>> >>>>> have the header calls in PHP changed? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Ron Mitchell >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Julian >>>>>> >>>>>> not sure if you've tried export since updating export.php but I >>>>>> uploaded to the test server and my local copies and all of them >>>>>> now generate corrupt zips? Tried Firefox as well as IE so it's >>>>>> not the old/intermittent IE problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Julian Tenney >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 12:09 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, with a dash. I looked it up somewhere, I thought that was >>>>>> the 'standard' way? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Why rename $SESSION['default_language']? Seems appropriate..? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> David Goodwin >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 12:08 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 12:00, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> $_SESSION['default_language'] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's identical to the directory name in /languages/. E.g. en-GB >>>>>> (I >>>> think). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've only noticed en_GB (using an underscore) before, but you >>>>>> seem to use en-GB (using a dash '-') >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This would be the string 'en_GB', right? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> David Goodwin >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 10:43 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 09:02, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I re-added the export code I originally added in rev 60 back into >>>>>> export.php. How to know which language to export? Also, the way >>>>>> the the engine handles languages is to look in >>>>>> language-config.php. 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I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 13:07:48 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:07:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA58C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The choice we have is to use HTML or AS3, but either way we need to put it outside xerte somehow. It's been a bit like plugging a leaky ship anyway, so I'll not be sorry to see it moved into HTML where it really ought to be. I also get the same video on both pages: how come? Are the IDs different? Reminds me: we need to remove the google translation page as they pulled that as well. Anyone else see a pattern emerging? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 13:13:21 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:13:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 13:15:44 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:15:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue May 1 13:16:28 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:16:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6ad 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Message-ID: <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> > provider but not at my request! - won't support ZLIB either. These are both > fairly deadly to Moodle 2.2. and the LDAP issue could be a serious problem > for XoT; I'm not sure if the export code uses ZLIB or not, it's said to > create performance issues. > As of Sunday, XOT's trunk can authenticate against : 1. Moodle (no XOT login page will be shown; Ron has apparently tested this). 2. A static predefined list (See library/Xerte/Authetication/Static.php) 3. A database (see library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php for hints/docs) (not yet tested) 4. LDAP (See library/Xerte/Authentication/Ldap.php) 5 Have no authentication - i.e. guest user access (See library/Xerte/Authentication/Guest.php) - no login page will be shown; this is the default behaviour ATM. To specify which, edit config.php - to define $xerte_toolkits_site->authentication_method (I think). It would be fairly trivial to add in e.g. a POP3 validator if required - or write your own custom one. I'm toying with the idea of removing the dependency on MySQL and allowing XOT to use SQLite - which would make demo/test deployment a lot easier (no need for a database, no need for authentication - just upload to a PHP server and it would just work as a guest user) ? but I'm not sure yet. I suspect there are quite a few mysql_query's I've not removed from the code base. Thanks David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 13:22:56 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:22:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5C5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think if you make the window resizable, you get (empty?) scrollbars at the side of the window, which look ugly; if it's not resizable you get a clean stage in the window. You can still use the full screen toggle of course, or we can expose the property to the form - but existing content won't have it. Unsure about the thumbnails, I'll have a look, there's some jiggery pokery going on with rootIcon.hotTextClicked to get the ID to launch which I'm not sure I can do off the images. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? 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The biggest snag I have come across is that RM, who provide the > JANET (hosting service) do not permit the use of LDAP authentication. My > ISP, Heart Internet - to whom my account has been transferred from my old > provider but not at my request! - won't support ZLIB either. These are both > fairly deadly to Moodle 2.2. and the LDAP issue could be a serious problem > for XoT; I'm not sure if the export code uses ZLIB or not, it's said to > create performance issues. > > I have asked JANET(UK) to look into the issue with RM as I believe it could > also affect EduRoam so it makes it difficult for providers to make use of > the service for authenticated sessions. > > Kindest regards, Thomas > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 01 May 2012 10:33 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code > > Shall we pose the question on the main list and teachers list and other > relevant lists? I created a quick Google form > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHNYMDJmd0VzMlROUl8xLTV > yX1RJb0E6MQ > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 01 May 2012 09:45 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code > > I'm unsure about PHP5. I know PHP4 is old as old, but as I said, the systems > guys here only just moved to 5, and no doubt there are other places where 4 > is installed. What was the reason to move up? Is there a PHP4 compliant > solution? > > One of the things with toolkits is about removing barriers. This potentially > creates one, and I don't think it would be an easy ask to get PHP upgraded > just to install toolkits in an institution. I don't have a feel for how many > servers still run PHP4, so I'm unsure. > > Shall we vote? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 30 April 2012 19:24 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code > > I don't know who should decide on php 4/5 and yes, at the moment I feel it > is Julian's decision to make. > > If PHP 5, I can give you the xwd builder code this week. > > The only thing missing really is the user interface, i.e. the possibillity > to choose a 'page' to be added/replaced into a given template. The rest is > there. > > Tom > > Op 30-4-2012 19:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >> if you use all the files then you can ignore the session variable >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Ron >> Mitchell > wrote: >>> You guessed correctly Pat - adding that proved your theory correct e.g. >>> export works, no corrupted zip and languages folder and config >>> included so exported LO plays. >>> >>> That said I was testing the export while logged in so not sure why it >>> wasn't picking up that session. >>> >>> Given the subsequent discussion between you and Tom re all the files >>> should be included it sounds like this won't suffice anyway. If >>> that's the case what's the solution? >>> >>> Tom do you need confirmation from Julian that going with PHP 5.2+ is ok? >>> Also when would we be able to include the xwd builder/rebuilder in >>> the management section? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 April 2012 17:42 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>> >>> is this export when logged in? >>> >>> I would guess $_SESSION doesn't exist in export as it can be used by >>> people not logged in? >>> >>> put something like >>> >>> if(!isset($_SESSION['default_language'])){ >>> >>> $_SESSION['default_language'] = "en-gb"; (or whatever it is) >>> >>> } >>> >>> before the language copy code. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Ron >>> Mitchell >>> wrote: >>>> Thanks Pat but no luck so far :-( >>>> Been testing this, commenting out headers lines etc but export >>>> worked fine in terms of not a corrupt zip before Julian added the > following: >>>> >>>> mkdir($dir_path . 'languages'); >>>> ? ? ? ? chmod($dir_path . 'languages', 0777); >>>> ? ? ? ? array_push($delete_folder_array, $dir_path . 'languages'); >>>> >>>> >>>> ? ? ? ? copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . >>>> "languages/language-config.xml", $dir_path . >>>> "languages/language-config.xml"); >>>> >>>> ? ? ? ? array_push($delete_file_array, ?$dir_path . >>>> "languages/language-config.xml"); >>>> >>>> >>>> ? ? ? ? copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . "languages/engine_" > . >>>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml", $dir_path . "languages/engine_" > . >>>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>>> >>>> ? ? ? ? array_push($delete_file_array, ?$dir_path . "languages/engine_" > . >>>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>>> >>>> and export also works with the lest two of those lines commented out > e.g. >>>> >>>> ? ? ? ? //copy($xerte_toolkits_site->root_file_path . > "languages/engine_" . >>>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml", $dir_path . "languages/engine_" > . >>>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>>> >>>> ? ? ? ? //array_push($delete_file_array, ?$dir_path . > "languages/engine_" . >>>> $_SESSION['default_language'] . ".xml"); >>>> >>>> Could the issue be with $_SESSION['default_language']? I tried >>>> removing the session reference and replacing with en-GB but without >>>> success. However with those two lines commented out the export does >>>> include the languages folder just not the engine_en-GB.xml file so >>>> play >>> still doesn't work. >>>> HTH >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 14:13 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>> >>>> it might be in archive - it's not wrong per say - there was one >>>> option with the PHP header settings which broke it in IE and firefox. >>>> >>>> Try commenting out the header lines to see if it changes stuff. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Ron Mitchell >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Can't find any reference to header in export.php but then can't in >>>>> previous versions either? >>>>> There is reference to header in archive.php but can't spot anything >>>>> wrong with that. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>> Lockley >>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:47 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>> >>>>> in export.php there is a call to a php function called header >>>>> >>>>> whenever a zip is corrupt on export I'd look there. >>>>> >>>>> Compare those calls to the current zip >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Ron Mitchell >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Not sure what that means :-( Where do we look/check for that? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>> Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:43 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> have the header calls in PHP changed? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Ron Mitchell >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Julian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> not sure if you've tried export since updating export.php but I >>>>>>> uploaded to the test server and my local copies and all of them >>>>>>> now generate corrupt zips? Tried Firefox as well as IE so it's >>>>>>> not the old/intermittent IE problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ron >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> Julian Tenney >>>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 12:09 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, with a dash. I looked it up somewhere, I thought that was >>>>>>> the 'standard' way? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why rename $SESSION['default_language']? Seems appropriate..? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> David Goodwin >>>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 12:08 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 12:00, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $_SESSION['default_language'] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's identical to the directory name in /languages/. E.g. en-GB >>>>>>> (I >>>>> think). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've only noticed en_GB (using an underscore) before, but you >>>>>>> seem to use en-GB (using a dash '-') >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This would be the string 'en_GB', right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> David Goodwin >>>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2012 10:43 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 09:02, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I re-added the export code I originally added in rev 60 back into >>>>>>> export.php. How to know which language to export? Also, the way >>>>>>> the the engine handles languages is to look in >>>>>>> language-config.php. 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This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 13:41:45 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:41:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Proxies In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5E2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> This on the QR page: is rss_proxy configured OK? Does it need configuring, or is it done by setup? [cid:image001.png at 01CD27A0.26921190] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: [cid:image002.png at 01CD27A0.26921190] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome [cid:image003.jpg at 01CD27A0.26921190] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 13:49:06 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:49:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5E2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5E2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00e901cd2798$cd62d110$68287330$@co.uk> I know I've listed that in the spreadsheet but although it's displaying a proxy error we have another installation (1.7) on the same server where the QR code page works fine. No proxy settings set on either installation so I think this is a change in web site code/php causing the problem. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Proxies This on the QR page: is rss_proxy configured OK? Does it need configuring, or is it done by setup? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 13:49:51 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:49:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies In-Reply-To: <00e901cd2798$cd62d110$68287330$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5E2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e901cd2798$cd62d110$68287330$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Swap the code form your 1.7 to 1.8 and test it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:49 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies I know I've listed that in the spreadsheet but although it's displaying a proxy error we have another installation (1.7) on the same server where the QR code page works fine. No proxy settings set on either installation so I think this is a change in web site code/php causing the problem. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Proxies This on the QR page: is rss_proxy configured OK? Does it need configuring, or is it done by setup? [cid:image001.png at 01CD27A1.4838C3B0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: [cid:image002.png at 01CD27A1.4838C3B0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome [cid:image003.jpg at 01CD27A1.4838C3B0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 13:50:53 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:50:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: [cid:image001.png at 01CD27A1.7E7558D0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome [cid:image002.jpg at 01CD27A1.7E7558D0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 14:18:49 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 14:18:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 15:06:47 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:06:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies In-Reply-To: <1811DC61-AAD2-4117-B47B-B8BEB34B19E0@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5E2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1811DC61-AAD2-4117-B47B-B8BEB34B19E0@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <014501cd27a3$a7a540b0$f6efc210$@co.uk> who knew! ;-) As this was a new install from svn code $development = true; is clearly the current default. Can I suggest that's changed to $development = false; Likewise with the new authentication options I would suggest the default is ldap rather than unauthenticated or if possible set to unauthenticated if someone choose the simple xampp install option during set-up and ldap if they choose the full install option. There's already examples of public facing sites out there where they've simply renamed demo.php to index.php and perhaps forgotten about that or not understood the implications. David - did you get my message about additions to the moodle integration code? If so any suggested changes or shall I commit those two files? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 01 May 2012 14:31 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies I'd expect you to only see the undefined variable messages if you have $development = true in config.php. David. On 1 May 2012, at 13:41, Julian Tenney wrote: This on the QR page: is rss_proxy configured OK? Does it need configuring, or is it done by setup? Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue May 1 15:18:43 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:18:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies In-Reply-To: <014501cd27a3$a7a540b0$f6efc210$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5E2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1811DC61-AAD2-4117-B47B-B8BEB34B19E0@palepurple.co.uk> <014501cd27a3$a7a540b0$f6efc210$@co.uk> Message-ID: <189CC67B-1BB7-4601-A50A-B9BF77937A82@palepurple.co.uk> On 1 May 2012, at 15:06, Ron Mitchell wrote: > who knew! ;-) me! > > As this was a new install from svn code $development = true; is clearly the current default. > Can I suggest that's changed to $development = false; Make it so then :-) > Likewise with the new authentication options I would suggest the default is ldap rather than unauthenticated or if possible set to unauthenticated if someone choose the simple xampp install option during set-up and ldap if they choose the full install option. There's already examples of public facing sites out there where they've simply renamed demo.php to index.php and perhaps forgotten about that or not understood the implications. Well, I/we can't win? but Static or Guest at least allow someone to quickly get started. > > David - did you get my message about additions to the moodle integration code? If so any suggested changes or shall I commit those two files? I was thinking the auth object (Moodle.php, Ldap.php etc) should probably have a setOptions(array($stuff)) method added. This would allow you to pass in arbitrary things (e.g. for Moodle to specify roles) and so on - without having to hack the class/file itself - i.e. your changes would be restricted to config.php (which is what I'd expect/want) I've not yet read your patches - feel free to merge them now however, I can always reform the code to do what I've detailed above when I Get time? David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 16:11:46 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 16:11:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies In-Reply-To: <189CC67B-1BB7-4601-A50A-B9BF77937A82@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5E2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1811DC61-AAD2-4117-B47B-B8BEB34B19E0@palepurple.co.uk> <014501cd27a3$a7a540b0$f6efc210$@co.uk> <189CC67B-1BB7-4601-A50A-B9BF77937A82@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <016201cd27ac$bbd2b960$33782c20$@co.uk> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 01 May 2012 15:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies On 1 May 2012, at 15:06, Ron Mitchell wrote: who knew! ;-) me! As this was a new install from svn code $development = true; is clearly the current default. Can I suggest that's changed to $development = false; Make it so then :-) --Have done so. Likewise with the new authentication options I would suggest the default is ldap rather than unauthenticated or if possible set to unauthenticated if someone choose the simple xampp install option during set-up and ldap if they choose the full install option. There's already examples of public facing sites out there where they've simply renamed demo.php to index.php and perhaps forgotten about that or not understood the implications. Well, I/we can't win. but Static or Guest at least allow someone to quickly get started. --Just my opinion - previously people had to rename demo.txt to demo.php but currently if they install on a production server the guest unauthenticated access will be enabled by default. I guess we need to be clear about this in the documentation which will need to be updated anyway. Probably need Julian to decide what should be the default? David - did you get my message about additions to the moodle integration code? If so any suggested changes or shall I commit those two files? I was thinking the auth object (Moodle.php, Ldap.php etc) should probably have a setOptions(array($stuff)) method added. This would allow you to pass in arbitrary things (e.g. for Moodle to specify roles) and so on - without having to hack the class/file itself - i.e. your changes would be restricted to config.php (which is what I'd expect/want) I've not yet read your patches - feel free to merge them now however, I can always reform the code to do what I've detailed above when I Get time. --Have committed. But won't update the moodle integration readme until finalised. David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 16:13:06 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 16:13:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies In-Reply-To: <016201cd27ac$bbd2b960$33782c20$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5E2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1811DC61-AAD2-4117-B47B-B8BEB34B19E0@palepurple.co.uk> <014501cd27a3$a7a540b0$f6efc210$@co.uk> <189CC67B-1BB7-4601-A50A-B9BF77937A82@palepurple.co.uk> <016201cd27ac$bbd2b960$33782c20$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA737@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Probably need Julian to decide what should be the default? Not sure. I'd have said LDAP, but thinking about it, could it be configured during setup? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 16:12 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 01 May 2012 15:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies On 1 May 2012, at 15:06, Ron Mitchell wrote: who knew! ;-) me! As this was a new install from svn code $development = true; is clearly the current default. Can I suggest that's changed to $development = false; Make it so then :-) --Have done so. Likewise with the new authentication options I would suggest the default is ldap rather than unauthenticated or if possible set to unauthenticated if someone choose the simple xampp install option during set-up and ldap if they choose the full install option. There's already examples of public facing sites out there where they've simply renamed demo.php to index.php and perhaps forgotten about that or not understood the implications. Well, I/we can't win... but Static or Guest at least allow someone to quickly get started. --Just my opinion - previously people had to rename demo.txt to demo.php but currently if they install on a production server the guest unauthenticated access will be enabled by default. I guess we need to be clear about this in the documentation which will need to be updated anyway. Probably need Julian to decide what should be the default? David - did you get my message about additions to the moodle integration code? If so any suggested changes or shall I commit those two files? I was thinking the auth object (Moodle.php, Ldap.php etc) should probably have a setOptions(array($stuff)) method added. This would allow you to pass in arbitrary things (e.g. for Moodle to specify roles) and so on - without having to hack the class/file itself - i.e. your changes would be restricted to config.php (which is what I'd expect/want) I've not yet read your patches - feel free to merge them now however, I can always reform the code to do what I've detailed above when I Get time... --Have committed. But won't update the moodle integration readme until finalised. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 16:30:12 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 16:30:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to Xwd Info In-Reply-To: <4F9FFF0B.9090505@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA6BE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9FFF0B.9090505@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA767@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> So the definitive source of models / xwd information is in xerte2repo/pageWizards? Where does information for the learningObject node go - it doesn't have a model. Can I rebuild the big .xwd from the small ones? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 01 May 2012 16:20 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to Xwd Info in pageWizards in xerte, that where I get them from at the moment. Op 1-5-2012 16:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The big xwd for toolkits will be generated from all the small ones, right? So where is the best place to put changes to the small ones right now? The xerte svn is different to the files installed in my xerte218 folder: in the install I have a folder of little xwds, I don't have that in the svn (unless I'm missing something) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue May 1 16:40:35 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 16:40:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA4EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA4EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The menu connector page offers the following features By default it lists every page in the project, irrespective of whether it has a page ID or not. You can if you wish as an alternative to the default supply a start page ID and the menu will then list all pages in the project from (and including) the start page onwards. Additionally you can supply an end page ID and the menu will list only up to (and including) the end page. Pages listed as start or end pages must be given a page ID. So you could easily set up menus such as "all pages from page 5 onwards", "all pages up to page 8" only or "pages 5 through 8". As a further alternative you can supply a list of page IDs, entered one per line in a text box (like entering bullets in the bullet page) This will construct a menu only of the pages listed. By combining the different types of menus you could have a project set up like the following Title page Contents menu (selected pages being the menu page for each chapter) Chapter 1 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages in this chapter Pages 1 - n of chapter 1 Chapter 2 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages of chapter 2 Pages 1 to n of chapter 2 etc. In any example above where a page ID is specified then that page must be given a page ID. I think this pretty much covers any combination of menu that anyone might want. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 May 2012 11:55, Julian Tenney wrote: > Hi, > > > > I?m going to add a new optional property to every page: hideFromMenu. > > > > It will hide pages you want hiding from the menu generated when you use > the menu navigation: it means you can create a menu of n items, where each > item has m pages in it. > > > > Before I do that, it seems this is also relevant to connectors: Jonathan, > have you already done anything to facilitate this? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 16:46:41 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 16:46:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA4EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA785@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Thanks, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 01 May 2012 16:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu The menu connector page offers the following features By default it lists every page in the project, irrespective of whether it has a page ID or not. You can if you wish as an alternative to the default supply a start page ID and the menu will then list all pages in the project from (and including) the start page onwards. Additionally you can supply an end page ID and the menu will list only up to (and including) the end page. Pages listed as start or end pages must be given a page ID. So you could easily set up menus such as "all pages from page 5 onwards", "all pages up to page 8" only or "pages 5 through 8". As a further alternative you can supply a list of page IDs, entered one per line in a text box (like entering bullets in the bullet page) This will construct a menu only of the pages listed. By combining the different types of menus you could have a project set up like the following Title page Contents menu (selected pages being the menu page for each chapter) Chapter 1 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages in this chapter Pages 1 - n of chapter 1 Chapter 2 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages of chapter 2 Pages 1 to n of chapter 2 etc. In any example above where a page ID is specified then that page must be given a page ID. I think this pretty much covers any combination of menu that anyone might want. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 May 2012 11:55, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I'm going to add a new optional property to every page: hideFromMenu. It will hide pages you want hiding from the menu generated when you use the menu navigation: it means you can create a menu of n items, where each item has m pages in it. Before I do that, it seems this is also relevant to connectors: Jonathan, have you already done anything to facilitate this? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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But I think the intention eventually will be to have the wizards and model files in the pages folder of the runtime folder. Or have I got the wrong idea? Kind regards Johnathan On 1 May 2012 16:30, Julian Tenney wrote: > So the definitive source of models / xwd information is in > xerte2repo/pageWizards? > > > > Where does information for the learningObject node go ? it doesn?t have a > model. > > > > Can I rebuild the big .xwd from the small ones? > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 16:20 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to Xwd Info > > > > in pageWizards in xerte, that where I get them from at the moment. > > Op 1-5-2012 16:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The big xwd for toolkits will be generated from all the small ones, right? > > > > So where is the best place to put changes to the small ones right now? > > > > The xerte svn is different to the files installed in my xerte218 folder: > in the install I have a folder of little xwds, I don?t have that in the svn > (unless I?m missing something) > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 16:58:15 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 16:58:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Online Help Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA79B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Just bringing a conversation with Jonathan to the list: does anyone know / recommend / use anything that makes it easy to create online help. Something like asdoc / javadoc but not necessarily for code, something we could use to create a help file for all the page types? I've used helpmaker (because its free and OK) in the past to create the xerte help file, but it's a .chm file, I'm thinking about something more web based. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 1 17:02:10 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 17:02:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to Xwd Info In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA6BE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9FFF0B.9090505@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA767@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA7A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> As long as there is one source! I've always developed using the runtime folder to launch the xerte.exe in there, and then I have all the latest models to hand when I open the rlt in templates/pagetemplates, which makes it pretty straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 01 May 2012 16:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to Xwd Info So the definitive source of models / xwd information is in xerte2repo/pageWizards? I think this is true at present. But I think the intention eventually will be to have the wizards and model files in the pages folder of the runtime folder. Or have I got the wrong idea? Kind regards Johnathan On 1 May 2012 16:30, Julian Tenney > wrote: So the definitive source of models / xwd information is in xerte2repo/pageWizards? Where does information for the learningObject node go - it doesn't have a model. Can I rebuild the big .xwd from the small ones? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 01 May 2012 16:20 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to Xwd Info in pageWizards in xerte, that where I get them from at the moment. Op 1-5-2012 16:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The big xwd for toolkits will be generated from all the small ones, right? So where is the best place to put changes to the small ones right now? The xerte svn is different to the files installed in my xerte218 folder: in the install I have a folder of little xwds, I don't have that in the svn (unless I'm missing something) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 17:12:32 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 17:12:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA785@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA4EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA785@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <01af01cd27b5$38d80f20$aa882d60$@co.uk> I was finding it a bit of a chore testing the youtube changes in the test server page types example so have just added a menu connector as the first page of that LO using the listed pages option to only show a button for the first page in each section. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I had tried using the menu navigation option in lo properties but with 70+ pages that didn't quite work! ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 16:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu Thanks, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 01 May 2012 16:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu The menu connector page offers the following features By default it lists every page in the project, irrespective of whether it has a page ID or not. You can if you wish as an alternative to the default supply a start page ID and the menu will then list all pages in the project from (and including) the start page onwards. Additionally you can supply an end page ID and the menu will list only up to (and including) the end page. Pages listed as start or end pages must be given a page ID. So you could easily set up menus such as "all pages from page 5 onwards", "all pages up to page 8" only or "pages 5 through 8". As a further alternative you can supply a list of page IDs, entered one per line in a text box (like entering bullets in the bullet page) This will construct a menu only of the pages listed. By combining the different types of menus you could have a project set up like the following Title page Contents menu (selected pages being the menu page for each chapter) Chapter 1 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages in this chapter Pages 1 - n of chapter 1 Chapter 2 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages of chapter 2 Pages 1 to n of chapter 2 etc. In any example above where a page ID is specified then that page must be given a page ID. I think this pretty much covers any combination of menu that anyone might want. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 May 2012 11:55, Julian Tenney wrote: Hi, I'm going to add a new optional property to every page: hideFromMenu. It will hide pages you want hiding from the menu generated when you use the menu navigation: it means you can create a menu of n items, where each item has m pages in it. Before I do that, it seems this is also relevant to connectors: Jonathan, have you already done anything to facilitate this? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue May 1 19:01:57 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:01:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA737@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5E2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1811DC61-AAD2-4117-B47B-B8BEB34B19E0@palepurple.co.uk> <014501cd27a3$a7a540b0$f6efc210$@co.uk> <189CC67B-1BB7-4601-A50A-B9BF77937A82@palepurple.co.uk> <016201cd27ac$bbd2b960$33782c20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA737@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <9F51CCE7-4867-4F95-9E41-7B93AC726856@palepurple.co.uk> On 1 May 2012, at 16:13, Julian Tenney wrote: > Probably need Julian to decide what should be the default? > Not sure. I?d have said LDAP, but thinking about it, could it be configured during setup? > Yes "easily" enough. Although I'm hesitant to add another column to the sitedetails table as it's already quite wide. It can probably cope with the optional parameters which may be necessary by each mechanism having some sort of 'render' function which spits out some html, the parameters of which are serialised to the DB for future storage. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue May 1 19:17:42 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:17:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proxies In-Reply-To: <9F51CCE7-4867-4F95-9E41-7B93AC726856@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5E2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1811DC61-AAD2-4117-B47B-B8BEB34B19E0@palepurple.co.uk> <014501cd27a3$a7a540b0$f6efc210$@co.uk> <189CC67B-1BB7-4601-A50A-B9BF77937A82@palepurple.co.uk> <016201cd27ac$bbd2b960$33782c20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA737@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9F51CCE7-4867-4F95-9E41-7B93AC726856@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: depending on how brave we feel, sitedetails might as well become a series of values - i made it in a silly way, and it's a bit stuck now. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:01 PM, David Goodwin wrote: > > On 1 May 2012, at 16:13, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Probably need Julian to decide what should be the default? > Not sure. I?d have said LDAP, but thinking about it, could it be configured > during setup? > > > > > Yes "easily" enough. Although I'm hesitant to add another column to the > sitedetails table as it's already quite wide. > > > It can probably cope with the optional parameters which may be necessary by > each mechanism having some sort of 'render' function which spits out some > html, the parameters of which are serialised to the DB for future storage. > > > > David. > > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 1 19:29:05 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 20:29:05 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to Xwd Info In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA7A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA6BE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9FFF0B.9090505@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA767@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA7A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FA02B71.3000700@tor.nl> I don't care ahere the one source is either. It can be the current folder or the runtime/pages. Same difference to me... Julian, yes you can build the large one from the small ones. I'll try to create a .bat file to do that. - Manually, open a command prompt and run \php\php \scripts\rebuildtemplate.php \pageWizards\en-GB And the information for the learning Object is in basic.xwd. What the rebuildtemplate.php does, is take the basic.xwd and add all the nodes from the little xwds Tom Op 1-5-2012 18:02, Julian Tenney schreef: > > As long as there is one source! > > I've always developed using the runtime folder to launch the xerte.exe > in there, and then I have all the latest models to hand when I open > the rlt in templates/pagetemplates, which makes it pretty straightforward. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 16:51 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to Xwd Info > > So the definitive source of models / xwd information is in > xerte2repo/pageWizards? > > I think this is true at present. But I think the intention eventually > will be to have the wizards and model files in the pages folder of the > runtime folder. Or have I got the wrong idea? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 1 May 2012 16:30, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > So the definitive source of models / xwd information is in > xerte2repo/pageWizards? > > Where does information for the learningObject node go -- it doesn't > have a model. > > Can I rebuild the big .xwd from the small ones? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 16:20 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to Xwd Info > > in pageWizards in xerte, that where I get them from at the moment. > > Op 1-5-2012 16:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The big xwd for toolkits will be generated from all the small ones, right? > > So where is the best place to put changes to the small ones right now? > > The xerte svn is different to the files installed in my xerte218 > folder: in the install I have a folder of little xwds, I don't have > that in the svn (unless I'm missing something) > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 1 21:44:14 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 21:44:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Online Help In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA79B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA79B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <01e201cd27db$2d9baab0$88d30010$@co.uk> Not really a proper help authoring tool but if you want the benefits of collaborative development what about Google sites? Here's an example we developed collaboratively on the LCoM project https://sites.google.com/site/spacequickhelp/ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 16:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Online Help Just bringing a conversation with Jonathan to the list: does anyone know / recommend / use anything that makes it easy to create online help. Something like asdoc / javadoc but not necessarily for code, something we could use to create a help file for all the page types? I've used helpmaker (because its free and OK) in the past to create the xerte help file, but it's a .chm file, I'm thinking about something more web based. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Moodle (no XOT login page will be shown; Ron has apparently tested this).< I've updated the test install tonight with all the latest files from the XOT svn so this is now using the new method of moodle integration rather than the old method. I've also updated readme_moodlepatch.txt to cover how to enable and use this method of moodle integration. All (moodle authentication) seems to be working fine as far as I can tell and no longer requires any different files like the previous moodle patch did. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk; For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code > provider but not at my request! - won't support ZLIB either. These are > both fairly deadly to Moodle 2.2. and the LDAP issue could be a > serious problem for XoT; I'm not sure if the export code uses ZLIB or > not, it's said to create performance issues. > As of Sunday, XOT's trunk can authenticate against : 1. Moodle (no XOT login page will be shown; Ron has apparently tested this). 2. A static predefined list (See library/Xerte/Authetication/Static.php) 3. A database (see library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php for hints/docs) (not yet tested) 4. LDAP (See library/Xerte/Authentication/Ldap.php) 5 Have no authentication - i.e. guest user access (See library/Xerte/Authentication/Guest.php) - no login page will be shown; this is the default behaviour ATM. To specify which, edit config.php - to define $xerte_toolkits_site->authentication_method (I think). It would be fairly trivial to add in e.g. a POP3 validator if required - or write your own custom one. I'm toying with the idea of removing the dependency on MySQL and allowing XOT to use SQLite - which would make demo/test deployment a lot easier (no need for a database, no need for authentication - just upload to a PHP server and it would just work as a guest user) . but I'm not sure yet. I suspect there are quite a few mysql_query's I've not removed from the code base. Thanks David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Tue May 1 23:06:28 2012 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (Thomas Rochford) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 23:06:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Online Toolkits 1.8 - Requirements In-Reply-To: <002501cd2780$70bdb370$52391a50$@co.uk> References: <002501cd2780$70bdb370$52391a50$@co.uk> Message-ID: <02aa01cd27e6$a8e90fe0$fabb2fa0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Hi Everyone, I'm running a survey of my learning providers to find out what version they're using and so far out of five responses five are using PHP 5.2 or higher. The responses so far are made up of 3 VIth Form Colleges and 2 FE Colleges. I fully expect further results to confirm that PHP 5.3 is not going to be an issue in the FE sector. Kindest regards, Thomas From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 10:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers'; 'Xerte discussion list'; 'A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte Online Toolkits 1.8 - Requirements Apologies for cross posting: A quick survey question relevant to anyone using Xerte Online Toolkits and especially those hosting their own installation or planning to do so. We are finalising the development of the new release of Xerte Online Toolkits (1.8) which has some great new features including internationalisation (language support). We need a quick response to a question about PHP requirements and specifically whether requiring PHP 5.x rather than the now very old PHP 4.x would be a problem. To collate results we are using a Google form to capture responses: http://goo.gl/p9VWj If you are unable to answer this question yourself we'd be grateful if you could send the link to your technical team. http://goo.gl/p9VWj Ideally we need as many responses as soon as possible and by the end of this week. Thanks in advance. Ron PP the Xerte Development Community This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford Sent: 01 May 2012 23:06 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Online Toolkits 1.8 - Requirements Hi Everyone, I'm running a survey of my learning providers to find out what version they're using and so far out of five responses five are using PHP 5.2 or higher. The responses so far are made up of 3 VIth Form Colleges and 2 FE Colleges. I fully expect further results to confirm that PHP 5.3 is not going to be an issue in the FE sector. Kindest regards, Thomas From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 10:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers'; 'Xerte discussion list'; 'A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte Online Toolkits 1.8 - Requirements Apologies for cross posting: A quick survey question relevant to anyone using Xerte Online Toolkits and especially those hosting their own installation or planning to do so. We are finalising the development of the new release of Xerte Online Toolkits (1.8) which has some great new features including internationalisation (language support). We need a quick response to a question about PHP requirements and specifically whether requiring PHP 5.x rather than the now very old PHP 4.x would be a problem. To collate results we are using a Google form to capture responses: http://goo.gl/p9VWj If you are unable to answer this question yourself we'd be grateful if you could send the link to your technical team. http://goo.gl/p9VWj Ideally we need as many responses as soon as possible and by the end of this week. Thanks in advance. Ron PP the Xerte Development Community This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 2 07:36:34 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 07:36:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu In-Reply-To: <01af01cd27b5$38d80f20$aa882d60$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA4EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA785@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <01af01cd27b5$38d80f20$aa882d60$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA83B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Maybe that's a better solution: I was going to find it a chore to visit 78 xwd files to add the extra property... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 17:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu I was finding it a bit of a chore testing the youtube changes in the test server page types example so have just added a menu connector as the first page of that LO using the listed pages option to only show a button for the first page in each section. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I had tried using the menu navigation option in lo properties but with 70+ pages that didn't quite work! ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 16:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu Thanks, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 01 May 2012 16:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu The menu connector page offers the following features By default it lists every page in the project, irrespective of whether it has a page ID or not. You can if you wish as an alternative to the default supply a start page ID and the menu will then list all pages in the project from (and including) the start page onwards. Additionally you can supply an end page ID and the menu will list only up to (and including) the end page. Pages listed as start or end pages must be given a page ID. So you could easily set up menus such as "all pages from page 5 onwards", "all pages up to page 8" only or "pages 5 through 8". As a further alternative you can supply a list of page IDs, entered one per line in a text box (like entering bullets in the bullet page) This will construct a menu only of the pages listed. By combining the different types of menus you could have a project set up like the following Title page Contents menu (selected pages being the menu page for each chapter) Chapter 1 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages in this chapter Pages 1 - n of chapter 1 Chapter 2 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages of chapter 2 Pages 1 to n of chapter 2 etc. In any example above where a page ID is specified then that page must be given a page ID. I think this pretty much covers any combination of menu that anyone might want. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 May 2012 11:55, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I'm going to add a new optional property to every page: hideFromMenu. It will hide pages you want hiding from the menu generated when you use the menu navigation: it means you can create a menu of n items, where each item has m pages in it. Before I do that, it seems this is also relevant to connectors: Jonathan, have you already done anything to facilitate this? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 17:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu I was finding it a bit of a chore testing the youtube changes in the test server page types example so have just added a menu connector as the first page of that LO using the listed pages option to only show a button for the first page in each section. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I had tried using the menu navigation option in lo properties but with 70+ pages that didn't quite work! ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 16:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu Thanks, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 01 May 2012 16:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu The menu connector page offers the following features By default it lists every page in the project, irrespective of whether it has a page ID or not. You can if you wish as an alternative to the default supply a start page ID and the menu will then list all pages in the project from (and including) the start page onwards. Additionally you can supply an end page ID and the menu will list only up to (and including) the end page. Pages listed as start or end pages must be given a page ID. So you could easily set up menus such as "all pages from page 5 onwards", "all pages up to page 8" only or "pages 5 through 8". As a further alternative you can supply a list of page IDs, entered one per line in a text box (like entering bullets in the bullet page) This will construct a menu only of the pages listed. By combining the different types of menus you could have a project set up like the following Title page Contents menu (selected pages being the menu page for each chapter) Chapter 1 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages in this chapter Pages 1 - n of chapter 1 Chapter 2 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages of chapter 2 Pages 1 to n of chapter 2 etc. In any example above where a page ID is specified then that page must be given a page ID. I think this pretty much covers any combination of menu that anyone might want. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 May 2012 11:55, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I'm going to add a new optional property to every page: hideFromMenu. It will hide pages you want hiding from the menu generated when you use the menu navigation: it means you can create a menu of n items, where each item has m pages in it. 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Julian, yes you can build the large one from the small ones. I'll try to create a .bat file to do that. - Manually, open a command prompt and run \php\php \scripts\rebuildtemplate.php \pageWizards\en-GB And the information for the learning Object is in basic.xwd. What the rebuildtemplate.php does, is take the basic.xwd and add all the nodes from the little xwds Tom Op 1-5-2012 18:02, Julian Tenney schreef: As long as there is one source! I've always developed using the runtime folder to launch the xerte.exe in there, and then I have all the latest models to hand when I open the rlt in templates/pagetemplates, which makes it pretty straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 01 May 2012 16:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to Xwd Info So the definitive source of models / xwd information is in xerte2repo/pageWizards? I think this is true at present. But I think the intention eventually will be to have the wizards and model files in the pages folder of the runtime folder. Or have I got the wrong idea? Kind regards Johnathan On 1 May 2012 16:30, Julian Tenney > wrote: So the definitive source of models / xwd information is in xerte2repo/pageWizards? Where does information for the learningObject node go - it doesn't have a model. Can I rebuild the big .xwd from the small ones? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 01 May 2012 16:20 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changes to Xwd Info in pageWizards in xerte, that where I get them from at the moment. Op 1-5-2012 16:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The big xwd for toolkits will be generated from all the small ones, right? So where is the best place to put changes to the small ones right now? 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Inge has been working on the community web site as well - I wonder if it would sit nicely in there? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Online Help Not really a proper help authoring tool but if you want the benefits of collaborative development what about Google sites? Here's an example we developed collaboratively on the LCoM project https://sites.google.com/site/spacequickhelp/ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 16:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Online Help Just bringing a conversation with Jonathan to the list: does anyone know / recommend / use anything that makes it easy to create online help. Something like asdoc / javadoc but not necessarily for code, something we could use to create a help file for all the page types? I've used helpmaker (because its free and OK) in the past to create the xerte help file, but it's a .chm file, I'm thinking about something more web based. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 2 08:36:07 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:36:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C43B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00d601cd23bd$2ca9a980$85fcfc80$@co.uk> <4F9A3F64.4000005@tor.nl> <4F9A4268.1060207@tor.nl> <006e01cd2450$1a98af50$4fca0df0$@co.uk> <4F9AA276.80507@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C0A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C0B0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9AA82C.4020305@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C11B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <4F9AB4A3.6050505@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D8031B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <4F9AF5F3.8040707@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D8031E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9BB1F9.8090309@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C21D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9E3D93.4060201@tor.nl> <4F9E6E2F.1050308@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C43B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for sorting this out Tom - I'm don't work Mondays and Tuesdays so didn't see the emails until today. I didn't realise that previewing it from the edit window didn't include the same html. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 30 April 2012 12:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update Yes, if at design time (where mdm is defined), we don't have a web page to call. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 30 April 2012 11:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update So I think the proper fix is to do the getURL part if (mdm != undefined). Correct? Op 30-4-2012 9:21, Tom Reijnders schreef: > Julian, > > You can ask Fay about that, because as far as I can tell she made the > change when she checked in: > 'Changes so frames resize with change in screensize combo & extra > features added to jmol page' > > on March 22 (version 519) the version before that (your check in on > March 21, version 516) doesn't have the getURL in setDisplay > > Tom > > Op 30-4-2012 9:06, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Odd. I don't know what's happened here: you re right, so I put if >> (mdm != undefined) return; at the top of setDisplayMode() and now the >> problem has gone away. >> >> But where did it come from, because this didn't happen before? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 28 April 2012 10:02 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >> >> For my understanding. What html page is used on preview (if any)? >> >> And could it be that the XMLEngine.swf from the install folder (right >> next to xerte.exe) was still an older version (without the >> javascript:resizePopup) and that the one in common/publish was the >> correct/newer version in your older install? >> >> Op 28-4-2012 10:48, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Good detective work. The function might be missing in the web page - >>> but why does it work in the old install? Hmm. >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] >>> Sent: 27 April 2012 20:39 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>> >>> Assuming we're talking about the same (i.e. I get a screen flashing, >>> and >>> indeed a browser window pops up, and I end up in the download >>> windows of >>> IE9, the preview is there however) >>> >>> This is caused by >>> >>> rootIcon.setDisplayMode(templateData.learningObject[0].displayMode); >>> >>> in the jump script of the onInitHandler >>> >>> setDisplayMode is in the Engine, and besides a fscommand('resize'... ) >>> tries to do a getURL("javascript:resizePopup(' ...) >>> >>> As far as I can tell the resizePopup is in the >>> runtime/publish/rloObject.html, but I don't know whether that is >>> used on >>> preview. >>> >>> Don't know exactly what is happening there... >>> >>> Julian, does this ring a bells? >>> >>> If I comment out that line from the script everything seems to work as >>> expected. >>> >>> >>> >>> Op 27-4-2012 18:47, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> Thinking about it on the way home, the problem must be in >>>> xmlengine.SWF because it only happens when you preview. I noticed a >>>> new xmlengine.Fla when I updated my svn this morning, maybe that >>>> helps... >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] >>>> Sent: 27 April 2012 16:00 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>>> >>>> I'll have a look a.s.a.p. >>>> >>>> Op 27-4-2012 16:58, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> The latest one you made that installs into xerte218 >>>> >>>> From: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 27 April 2012 15:08 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>>> >>>> No, I am a bit confused about that. xerte218 build has nothing to >>>> do with xot ... >>>> >>>> So what exactly is happening?? >>>> >>>> I assume we're talking xerte here, not xot. You installed which build? >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 27-4-2012 16:01, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> BTW, I'm running the xerte218 build Tom made, and this happens when >>>> I open the rlt from xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates and run it, >>>> even without adding pages. >>>> >>>> From: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>> Julian Tenney >>>> Sent: 27 April 2012 14:53 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>>> >>>> There are more problems: when I try and run a template project in >>>> Xerte toolkits I get two errors on the screen, a browser window >>>> tries to open, and then I get another error. This looks like some >>>> sort of getURL call failing. >>>> >>>> This does not happen in the old install I still have. >>>> >>>> What's changed in the editor to break this? Can it be fixed ASAP >>>> please, because I can't make a Xerte installer with any fixes in >>>> until this is fixed, and it's important I can do that. >>>> >>>> [cid:part3.08000300.07040200 at tor.nl] >>>> >>>> From: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 27 April 2012 14:43 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>>> >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> Sorry I caused some problems. As I can't really look at the files >>>> of the installation, I need your help. >>>> >>>> I assume this is the issue you're talking about: >>>> >>>> [cid:part6.08030902.00010205 at tor.nl] >>>> >>>> This means that somehow the file >>>> /var/www/vle/xot/workspaceproperties.php can't find the file >>>> workspaceproperties.inc (which should now be in languages/en-GB) >>>> >>>> Also, if you decided NOT to update config.php, you have to change >>>> the default language (all references to en-gb) to en-GB. >>>> >>>> Please let me know if this does not solve the issue. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 27-4-2012 10:31, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>> Hi Tom >>>> thanks for the updated files in the xot svn. I've just updated the >>>> test installation with these but we're now getting some errors >>>> appearing in the workspace. Could you visit the test install and >>>> check please? >>>> Thanks >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> From: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 27 April 2012 07:53 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>>> >>>> I have NOT updated XOT yet, only xerte2 Need to test first. >>>> >>>> Op 27-4-2012 8:40, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>>> Johnathan, you can go ahead. >>>> >>>> Op 26-4-2012 23:11, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>> Hello Ron, >>>> >>>> I'll take another look. >>>> >>>> There are a few things I found whilst setting up the example >>>> Connector pages that I want to fix that I have not added to the >>>> spreadsheet. >>>> >>>> I am just waiting for Tom to complete the changes to the SVN (he >>>> may have done them - I need to check as I have not updated for a >>>> couple of days.). 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Still a few issues on the first sheet. The main remaining issue in the website code/php category is the export functionality. Not sure what the solution is for that? It's looking like the consensus is that requiring PHP 5.x is ok with the majority so question for Tom: does that mean your xwd builder code can be included now? Will that also fix displaying the page types in each category in alphabetical a-z order? HTH Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 2 08:55:15 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:55:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc updated In-Reply-To: <003101cd2836$ff348730$fd9d9590$@co.uk> References: <003101cd2836$ff348730$fd9d9590$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA90E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's looking like the consensus is that requiring PHP 5.x is ok with the majority... I think this is going to bear out. ...so question for Tom: does that mean your xwd builder code can be included now? Will that also fix displaying the page types in each category in alphabetical a-z order? Also, is the order of the top level menus determined by the order of the items in the That would make sense to me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] google doc updated Hi all I updated the Google doc last night and this morning moving items to the fixed and deferred sheets where relevant. Still a few issues on the first sheet. The main remaining issue in the website code/php category is the export functionality. Not sure what the solution is for that? It's looking like the consensus is that requiring PHP 5.x is ok with the majority so question for Tom: does that mean your xwd builder code can be included now? 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 2 08:59:45 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:59:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update In-Reply-To: References: <00d601cd23bd$2ca9a980$85fcfc80$@co.uk> <4F9A3F64.4000005@tor.nl> <4F9A4268.1060207@tor.nl> <006e01cd2450$1a98af50$4fca0df0$@co.uk> <4F9AA276.80507@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C0A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C0B0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9AA82C.4020305@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C11B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <4F9AB4A3.6050505@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D8031B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <4F9AF5F3.8040707@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D8031E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9BB1F9.8090309@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C21D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9E3D93.4060201@tor.nl> <4F9E6E2F.1050308@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C43B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA91C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> When you are in Xerte standalone, there is no web page with function in to call when you hit F5 so any getURL('javascript:function(calls)'); have nowhere to go. You can stop it with if (mdm != undefined) because mdm is the zinc set of methods / properties which only exists at design time. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 02 May 2012 08:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update Thanks for sorting this out Tom - I'm don't work Mondays and Tuesdays so didn't see the emails until today. I didn't realise that previewing it from the edit window didn't include the same html. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 30 April 2012 12:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update Yes, if at design time (where mdm is defined), we don't have a web page to call. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 30 April 2012 11:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update So I think the proper fix is to do the getURL part if (mdm != undefined). Correct? Op 30-4-2012 9:21, Tom Reijnders schreef: > Julian, > > You can ask Fay about that, because as far as I can tell she made the > change when she checked in: > 'Changes so frames resize with change in screensize combo & extra > features added to jmol page' > > on March 22 (version 519) the version before that (your check in on > March 21, version 516) doesn't have the getURL in setDisplay > > Tom > > Op 30-4-2012 9:06, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Odd. I don't know what's happened here: you re right, so I put if >> (mdm != undefined) return; at the top of setDisplayMode() and now the >> problem has gone away. >> >> But where did it come from, because this didn't happen before? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 28 April 2012 10:02 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >> >> For my understanding. What html page is used on preview (if any)? >> >> And could it be that the XMLEngine.swf from the install folder (right >> next to xerte.exe) was still an older version (without the >> javascript:resizePopup) and that the one in common/publish was the >> correct/newer version in your older install? >> >> Op 28-4-2012 10:48, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> Good detective work. The function might be missing in the web page - >>> but why does it work in the old install? Hmm. >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] >>> Sent: 27 April 2012 20:39 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>> >>> Assuming we're talking about the same (i.e. I get a screen flashing, >>> and >>> indeed a browser window pops up, and I end up in the download >>> windows of >>> IE9, the preview is there however) >>> >>> This is caused by >>> >>> rootIcon.setDisplayMode(templateData.learningObject[0].displayMode); >>> >>> in the jump script of the onInitHandler >>> >>> setDisplayMode is in the Engine, and besides a fscommand('resize'... ) >>> tries to do a getURL("javascript:resizePopup(' ...) >>> >>> As far as I can tell the resizePopup is in the >>> runtime/publish/rloObject.html, but I don't know whether that is >>> used on >>> preview. >>> >>> Don't know exactly what is happening there... >>> >>> Julian, does this ring a bells? >>> >>> If I comment out that line from the script everything seems to work as >>> expected. >>> >>> >>> >>> Op 27-4-2012 18:47, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> Thinking about it on the way home, the problem must be in >>>> xmlengine.SWF because it only happens when you preview. I noticed a >>>> new xmlengine.Fla when I updated my svn this morning, maybe that >>>> helps... >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] >>>> Sent: 27 April 2012 16:00 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>>> >>>> I'll have a look a.s.a.p. >>>> >>>> Op 27-4-2012 16:58, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> The latest one you made that installs into xerte218 >>>> >>>> From: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 27 April 2012 15:08 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>>> >>>> No, I am a bit confused about that. xerte218 build has nothing to >>>> do with xot ... >>>> >>>> So what exactly is happening?? >>>> >>>> I assume we're talking xerte here, not xot. You installed which build? >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 27-4-2012 16:01, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> BTW, I'm running the xerte218 build Tom made, and this happens when >>>> I open the rlt from xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates and run it, >>>> even without adding pages. >>>> >>>> From: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>> Julian Tenney >>>> Sent: 27 April 2012 14:53 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>>> >>>> There are more problems: when I try and run a template project in >>>> Xerte toolkits I get two errors on the screen, a browser window >>>> tries to open, and then I get another error. This looks like some >>>> sort of getURL call failing. >>>> >>>> This does not happen in the old install I still have. >>>> >>>> What's changed in the editor to break this? Can it be fixed ASAP >>>> please, because I can't make a Xerte installer with any fixes in >>>> until this is fixed, and it's important I can do that. >>>> >>>> [cid:part3.08000300.07040200 at tor.nl] >>>> >>>> From: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 27 April 2012 14:43 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>>> >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> Sorry I caused some problems. As I can't really look at the files >>>> of the installation, I need your help. >>>> >>>> I assume this is the issue you're talking about: >>>> >>>> [cid:part6.08030902.00010205 at tor.nl] >>>> >>>> This means that somehow the file >>>> /var/www/vle/xot/workspaceproperties.php can't find the file >>>> workspaceproperties.inc (which should now be in languages/en-GB) >>>> >>>> Also, if you decided NOT to update config.php, you have to change >>>> the default language (all references to en-gb) to en-GB. >>>> >>>> Please let me know if this does not solve the issue. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 27-4-2012 10:31, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>> Hi Tom >>>> thanks for the updated files in the xot svn. I've just updated the >>>> test installation with these but we're now getting some errors >>>> appearing in the workspace. Could you visit the test install and >>>> check please? >>>> Thanks >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> From: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 27 April 2012 07:53 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot 1.8 beta problems update >>>> >>>> I have NOT updated XOT yet, only xerte2 Need to test first. >>>> >>>> Op 27-4-2012 8:40, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>>> Johnathan, you can go ahead. >>>> >>>> Op 26-4-2012 23:11, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>> Hello Ron, >>>> >>>> I'll take another look. >>>> >>>> There are a few things I found whilst setting up the example >>>> Connector pages that I want to fix that I have not added to the >>>> spreadsheet. >>>> >>>> I am just waiting for Tom to complete the changes to the SVN (he >>>> may have done them - I need to check as I have not updated for a >>>> couple of days.). I don't want to fix one file and then find I >>>> fixed the wrong copy. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> On 26 April 2012 15:59, Ron >>>> Mitchell> >>>> wrote: >>>> Hi all >>>> I've moved some things around in the Google doc and added a >>>> defferred sheet for partly fix or less essential issues because it >>>> seems we do still have some critical issues with the php/web site >>>> code e.g. export isn't exporting the languages folder so LO's don't >>>> play >>>> >>>> Can everyone have a look and comment or indicate they're able to >>>> look at fixing etc >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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A lot of the files that we include now are not needed, as the manifest refers to the webhosted files anyway, not the local files. Several of the things mentioned here, use xml, so if xml is not available for a particular php5 install, it will fail, but I've never seen that. I will also include the xwdbuild functionality to the management.php page to add/replace a page in a template. The order of the categories is already fixed, sorry if I didn't commit that in the proper place. I'll have a look where that went wrong. (Basically you have to take the template.xwd (and in principal also the rlt etc.) the template.xwd should be in module/xerte/parent_template/Nottingham/data.xwd) If you want a different order, you have to change the pageWizard/en-GB/basic.xwd manuse attribute, and regenerate the template.xwd Tom Op 2-5-2012 9:41, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi all > > I updated the Google doc last night and this morning moving items to > the fixed and deferred sheets where relevant. Still a few issues on > the first sheet. > > The main remaining issue in the website code/php category is the > export functionality. Not sure what the solution is for that? > > It's looking like the consensus is that requiring PHP 5.x is ok with > the majority so question for Tom: does that mean your xwd builder code > can be included now? Will that also fix displaying the page types in > each category in alphabetical a-z order? > > HTH > > Ron > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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Will that also fix displaying the page types in each > category in alphabetical a-z order? > > Also, is the order of the top level menus determined by the order of > the items in the > > > > That would make sense to me. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 08:41 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] google doc updated > > Hi all > > I updated the Google doc last night and this morning moving items to > the fixed and deferred sheets where relevant. Still a few issues on > the first sheet. > > The main remaining issue in the website code/php category is the > export functionality. Not sure what the solution is for that? > > It's looking like the consensus is that requiring PHP 5.x is ok with > the majority so question for Tom: does that mean your xwd builder code > can be included now? Will that also fix displaying the page types in > each category in alphabetical a-z order? > > HTH > > Ron > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 02 May 2012 09:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc updated Yes it's determined by the order of that item in the basic.xwd. If one of the individual pages has a toplevel menu with a different name for its toplevel menu, it will be appended after this list. Op 2-5-2012 9:55, Julian Tenney schreef: It's looking like the consensus is that requiring PHP 5.x is ok with the majority... I think this is going to bear out. ...so question for Tom: does that mean your xwd builder code can be included now? Will that also fix displaying the page types in each category in alphabetical a-z order? Also, is the order of the top level menus determined by the order of the items in the That would make sense to me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] google doc updated Hi all I updated the Google doc last night and this morning moving items to the fixed and deferred sheets where relevant. Still a few issues on the first sheet. The main remaining issue in the website code/php category is the export functionality. Not sure what the solution is for that? It's looking like the consensus is that requiring PHP 5.x is ok with the majority so question for Tom: does that mean your xwd builder code can be included now? Will that also fix displaying the page types in each category in alphabetical a-z order? HTH Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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The workspace appears empty until refresh when all the existing projects then re-appear but not the newly created project. However this is being created in the user-files directory so I'm guessing it's not being added to the database but will check that next. Even so not sure why the workspace appears empty on closing the editor until refresh. Here's a quick screencast showing all this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1388941/xot18_beta_moodle_integration_problem.mp4 David - can you advise? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 21:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code > 1. Moodle (no XOT login page will be shown; Ron has apparently tested this).< I've updated the test install tonight with all the latest files from the XOT svn so this is now using the new method of moodle integration rather than the old method. I've also updated readme_moodlepatch.txt to cover how to enable and use this method of moodle integration. All (moodle authentication) seems to be working fine as far as I can tell and no longer requires any different files like the previous moodle patch did. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk; For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code > provider but not at my request! - won't support ZLIB either. These are > both fairly deadly to Moodle 2.2. and the LDAP issue could be a > serious problem for XoT; I'm not sure if the export code uses ZLIB or > not, it's said to create performance issues. > As of Sunday, XOT's trunk can authenticate against : 1. Moodle (no XOT login page will be shown; Ron has apparently tested this). 2. A static predefined list (See library/Xerte/Authetication/Static.php) 3. A database (see library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php for hints/docs) (not yet tested) 4. LDAP (See library/Xerte/Authentication/Ldap.php) 5 Have no authentication - i.e. guest user access (See library/Xerte/Authentication/Guest.php) - no login page will be shown; this is the default behaviour ATM. To specify which, edit config.php - to define $xerte_toolkits_site->authentication_method (I think). It would be fairly trivial to add in e.g. a POP3 validator if required - or write your own custom one. I'm toying with the idea of removing the dependency on MySQL and allowing XOT to use SQLite - which would make demo/test deployment a lot easier (no need for a database, no need for authentication - just upload to a PHP server and it would just work as a guest user) . but I'm not sure yet. I suspect there are quite a few mysql_query's I've not removed from the code base. Thanks David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 2 08:54:38 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:54:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> Message-ID: <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: [cid:image001.png at 01CD2846.653C6110] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome [cid:image002.jpg at 01CD2846.653C6110] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Wed May 2 09:47:55 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 09:47:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> Message-ID: <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> On 2 May 2012, at 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > spoke to soon re the moodle integration! :-( > > Opening, editing, publishing existing projects seems to work fine but when > creating a new project all seems fine until closing the editor. The > workspace appears empty until refresh when all the existing projects then > re-appear but not the newly created project. However this is being created > in the user-files directory so I'm guessing it's not being added to the > database but will check that next. Even so not sure why the workspace > appears empty on closing the editor until refresh. Here's a quick screencast > showing all this > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1388941/xot18_beta_moodle_integration_problem.mp4 > > David - can you advise? Err? no (I can't provide any useful insight yet)? Your session should be setup by the time you are able to create new LOs so I'm a little perplexed as to why : a) the workspace appears empty and b) you're not able to see the thing you've just created Thanks for the .mp4 David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed May 2 09:57:00 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 09:57:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA83C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA4EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA785@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <01af01cd27b5$38d80f20$aa882d60$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA83C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think that for most of the connector pages it is probably most appropriate to default to having the navigation buttons disabled, but I think for the menu page it probably makes more sense to have the navigation buttons enabled. Unlike the other connector pages the menu page can offer connections automatically and is less likely to be used in situations where you might want to limit the learner to following one of the options offered. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 07:37, Julian Tenney wrote: > Hmm. But how to get back to the menu! > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 17:13 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu > > > > I was finding it a bit of a chore testing the youtube changes in the test > server page types example so have just added a menu connector as the first > page of that LO using the listed pages option to only show a button for the > first page in each section. > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 > > > > I had tried using the menu navigation option in lo properties but with 70+ > pages that didn't quite work! ;-) > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 16:47 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu > > > > Thanks, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 16:41 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Hide from menu > > > > The menu connector page offers the following features > > > > By default it lists every page in the project, irrespective of whether it > has a page ID or not. > > > > You can if you wish as an alternative to the default supply a start page > ID and the menu will then list all pages in the project from (and > including) the start page onwards. Additionally you can supply an end page > ID and the menu will list only up to (and including) the end page. Pages > listed as start or end pages must be given a page ID. So you could easily > set up menus such as "all pages from page 5 onwards", "all pages up to page > 8" only or "pages 5 through 8". > > > > As a further alternative you can supply a list of page IDs, entered one > per line in a text box (like entering bullets in the bullet page) This will > construct a menu only of the pages listed. > > > > By combining the different types of menus you could have a project set up > like the following > > > > Title page > > Contents menu (selected pages being the menu page for each chapter) > > Chapter 1 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages in > this chapter > > Pages 1 - n of chapter 1 > > Chapter 2 menu (using a start and end page id to bracket only the pages of > chapter 2 > > Pages 1 to n of chapter 2 > > > > etc. > > > > In any example above where a page ID is specified then that page must be > given a page ID. > > > > I think this pretty much covers any combination of menu that anyone might > want. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 1 May 2012 11:55, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I?m going to add a new optional property to every page: hideFromMenu. > > > > It will hide pages you want hiding from the menu generated when you use > the menu navigation: it means you can create a menu of n items, where each > item has m pages in it. > > > > Before I do that, it seems this is also relevant to connectors: Jonathan, > have you already done anything to facilitate this? > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 2 10:02:44 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:02:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> Been testing and have a temporary or possibly permanent fix in place in the install.... One key change from the previous method was adding the require path to moodle config.php to the db (integration_path) instead of coded into XOT config.php Manually adding the require path back to the top of xot config.php resolves the problem. To be honest given that whoever installs has to edit the xot config.php anyway to choose which auth method they wish to use I wonder if it's not better to keep the require path hard coded too? Alternatively I guess somehow the require path from the db isn't being picked up in config.php? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 02 May 2012 09:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code On 2 May 2012, at 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > spoke to soon re the moodle integration! :-( > > Opening, editing, publishing existing projects seems to work fine but > when creating a new project all seems fine until closing the editor. > The workspace appears empty until refresh when all the existing > projects then re-appear but not the newly created project. However > this is being created in the user-files directory so I'm guessing it's > not being added to the database but will check that next. Even so not > sure why the workspace appears empty on closing the editor until > refresh. Here's a quick screencast showing all this > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1388941/xot18_beta_moodle_integration_problem. > mp4 > > David - can you advise? Err. no (I can't provide any useful insight yet). Your session should be setup by the time you are able to create new LOs so I'm a little perplexed as to why : a) the workspace appears empty and b) you're not able to see the thing you've just created Thanks for the .mp4 David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 2 10:09:42 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:09:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> Message-ID: <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration config needs to be changed to require? e.g. if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { require_once($row['integration_config_path']); } if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { require($row['integration_config_path']); } If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing anyway? Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:03 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code Been testing and have a temporary or possibly permanent fix in place in the install.... One key change from the previous method was adding the require path to moodle config.php to the db (integration_path) instead of coded into XOT config.php Manually adding the require path back to the top of xot config.php resolves the problem. To be honest given that whoever installs has to edit the xot config.php anyway to choose which auth method they wish to use I wonder if it's not better to keep the require path hard coded too? Alternatively I guess somehow the require path from the db isn't being picked up in config.php? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 02 May 2012 09:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code On 2 May 2012, at 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > spoke to soon re the moodle integration! :-( > > Opening, editing, publishing existing projects seems to work fine but > when creating a new project all seems fine until closing the editor. > The workspace appears empty until refresh when all the existing > projects then re-appear but not the newly created project. However > this is being created in the user-files directory so I'm guessing it's > not being added to the database but will check that next. Even so not > sure why the workspace appears empty on closing the editor until > refresh. Here's a quick screencast showing all this > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1388941/xot18_beta_moodle_integration_problem. > mp4 > > David - can you advise? Err. no (I can't provide any useful insight yet). Your session should be setup by the time you are able to create new LOs so I'm a little perplexed as to why : a) the workspace appears empty and b) you're not able to see the thing you've just created Thanks for the .mp4 David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 2 10:14:12 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:14:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <008801cd2843$f331cee0$d9956ca0$@co.uk> nah - tested that theory and same problem occurred so have hard coded require path again. Shall we go with this method? If so I'll update the readme. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration config needs to be changed to require? e.g. if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { require_once($row['integration_config_path']); } if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { require($row['integration_config_path']); } If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing anyway? Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:03 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code Been testing and have a temporary or possibly permanent fix in place in the install.... One key change from the previous method was adding the require path to moodle config.php to the db (integration_path) instead of coded into XOT config.php Manually adding the require path back to the top of xot config.php resolves the problem. To be honest given that whoever installs has to edit the xot config.php anyway to choose which auth method they wish to use I wonder if it's not better to keep the require path hard coded too? Alternatively I guess somehow the require path from the db isn't being picked up in config.php? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 02 May 2012 09:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code On 2 May 2012, at 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > spoke to soon re the moodle integration! :-( > > Opening, editing, publishing existing projects seems to work fine but > when creating a new project all seems fine until closing the editor. > The workspace appears empty until refresh when all the existing > projects then re-appear but not the newly created project. However > this is being created in the user-files directory so I'm guessing it's > not being added to the database but will check that next. Even so not > sure why the workspace appears empty on closing the editor until > refresh. Here's a quick screencast showing all this > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1388941/xot18_beta_moodle_integration_problem. > mp4 > > David - can you advise? Err. no (I can't provide any useful insight yet). Your session should be setup by the time you are able to create new LOs so I'm a little perplexed as to why : a) the workspace appears empty and b) you're not able to see the thing you've just created Thanks for the .mp4 David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Wed May 2 10:27:51 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:27:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration > config needs to be changed to require? e.g. > > if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { > require_once($row['integration_config_path']); > } > > if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { > require($row['integration_config_path']); > } > No. require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen more than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. > If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in using > the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing anyway? But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 2 10:46:07 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:46:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should be. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration > config needs to be changed to require? e.g. > > if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { > require_once($row['integration_config_path']); > } > > if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { > require($row['integration_config_path']); > } > No. require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen more than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. > If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in using > the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing anyway? But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 2 10:51:10 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:51:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <009a01cd2849$1cbf86d0$563e9470$@co.uk> Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta install... If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I don't get the rogue scroller. If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the rogue scroller. However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this but does this point to a possible cause solution? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 09:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Do you get it in standalone xerte? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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(Assuming the database structure is likely to remain stable for the foreseeable future :-)!) Kindest regards, Thomas -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration config needs to be changed to require? e.g. if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { require_once($row['integration_config_path']); } if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { require($row['integration_config_path']); } If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing anyway? Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:03 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code Been testing and have a temporary or possibly permanent fix in place in the install.... One key change from the previous method was adding the require path to moodle config.php to the db (integration_path) instead of coded into XOT config.php Manually adding the require path back to the top of xot config.php resolves the problem. To be honest given that whoever installs has to edit the xot config.php anyway to choose which auth method they wish to use I wonder if it's not better to keep the require path hard coded too? Alternatively I guess somehow the require path from the db isn't being picked up in config.php? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 02 May 2012 09:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code On 2 May 2012, at 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > spoke to soon re the moodle integration! :-( > > Opening, editing, publishing existing projects seems to work fine but > when creating a new project all seems fine until closing the editor. > The workspace appears empty until refresh when all the existing > projects then re-appear but not the newly created project. However > this is being created in the user-files directory so I'm guessing it's > not being added to the database but will check that next. Even so not > sure why the workspace appears empty on closing the editor until > refresh. Here's a quick screencast showing all this > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1388941/xot18_beta_moodle_integration_problem. > mp4 > > David - can you advise? Err. no (I can't provide any useful insight yet). Your session should be setup by the time you are able to create new LOs so I'm a little perplexed as to why : a) the workspace appears empty and b) you're not able to see the thing you've just created Thanks for the .mp4 David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed May 2 11:03:39 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:03:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The default introduction to the model files has changed with the latest set of models. if (extXML == undefined){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); } new format if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); // handle multiple page data definitions in a project if (rootIcon.projectPageIndex == undefined){ rootIcon.projectPageIndex = 0; } // check if this page has a definition for the current project index and default to 0 if not if (pageIcon.templateData.bullets[rootIcon.projectPageIndex].name == undefined){ projPI = 0; } else { projPI = rootIcon.projectPageIndex; } if (pageIcon.templateData.bullets[projPI].delaySecs != undefined){ The new pages project type in desktop Xerte now has an xwd and xml file giving the author xwd form based control over many of the project settings. This results in the existence of "extXML" thus making the original test for the desktop environment invalid. After much testing I ended up setting a variable in the setup script of the project, hence the new test. Not ideal. I tried to find something that would work "out of the box" for the desktop environment but was unable to do so. I tried using if (_level0jumpData.fileType.toLowerCase() == ".rlo") { but this worked in preview but not in published mode. One upside of the changes was that for both environments the learning object title can be set so the rootIcon.setTitle line has now been moved outside of the test for the environment. A further significant change in the model files is there to support the capability in desktop Xerte to have multiple data definitions for a single page. This addition is shown highlighted in green. The addition of the "green" code block with the appropriate top element name entry (highlighted in red) ensures that for XOT and pageTemplates users the value "projPI" is always 0. For desktop Xerte users it will default to 0 if the current value of rootIcon.projectPageIndex is referencing a data set for the page that has not been defined. References in the rest of the pages code that used to be of the form pageIcon.templateData.bullets[0] now become pageIcon.templateData.bullets[projPI] XOT and Page Templates are unaffected by this change, but Xerte desktop can now leverage multiple data definitions per page. If you wish, once you are happy with the way the two new you tube pages are working I can make the necessary alterations. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 09:31, Julian Tenney wrote: > Do you get it in standalone xerte? > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 08:55 > > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. > > > > Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll > create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get > other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 14:19 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll > bar on that in any of the browsers. > > > > So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being > the problem. > > > > I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so > it's not that. > > > > I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. > > > > Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc > and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others > here on this list could test and confirm either way? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:51 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > XP. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:51 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or > something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? > > > > Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. > > > > Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:40 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > No I?m not: > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:35 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 > > > > I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:16 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > I aint seein? no scrollbar. > > > > This some third party thing you guys have installed? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:13 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Have uploaded. P60 of > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 > > > > We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which > also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. > > > > Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? > > > > In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to > my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on > IE9 too. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:02 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the > params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the > focus when it?s made, so you don?t lose it. That?s in preview_xerte_top > (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it?) > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 12:39 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 > > > > If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but > page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if > you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. > > > > Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as > resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or > perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and > Safari I can resize the pop-up. > > > > Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I > don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going > then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions > and view full screen are available. > > > > How will the feed page work? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 12:14 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its > in the XOT svn now as well. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 11:41 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Hi Julian > > did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn > that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the > two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 11:29 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page > > > > I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to > launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it?s gribbly: the > movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new > page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new > window, but I think it?s the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff > finished. > > > > If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I?ll do the RSS one as well, > but I?ll wait for any comments first. > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Wed May 2 11:02:17 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:02:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <00db01cd2849$f7b1f110$e715d330$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <00db01cd2849$f7b1f110$e715d330$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 2 May 2012, at 10:57, Thomas Rochford wrote: > My View is that as much as possible should be stored in the database, this > will make it much simpler to install patches without the hassle of > overwriting local customisation. (Assuming the database structure is likely > to remain stable for the foreseeable future :-)!) > Nothing stays fixed - hence 'upgrade.php' which should be used to apply schema changes etc. David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 2 11:02:34 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:02:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <40A6B69D-46BC-4A09-857F-B7035E415EBE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C431@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1800FA54-ABB8-4D3F-AA63-8C67E4ED012F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C44B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00e001cd26cd$e6c40690$b44c13b0$@co.uk> <00f101cd26cf$2f58d8d0$8e0a8a70$@co.uk> <00f801cd26d2$d2f176c0$78d46440$@co.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> agreed but... Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading rather than installing from scratch which previously has only required replacing files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should be. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration > config needs to be changed to require? e.g. > > if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { > require_once($row['integration_config_path']); > } > > if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { > require($row['integration_config_path']); > } > No. require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen more than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. > If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in > using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing anyway? But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 2 11:11:14 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:11:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA82@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'm happy with the two youtube pages, so go ahead, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 02 May 2012 11:04 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page The default introduction to the model files has changed with the latest set of models. if (extXML == undefined){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); } new format if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); // handle multiple page data definitions in a project if (rootIcon.projectPageIndex == undefined){ rootIcon.projectPageIndex = 0; } // check if this page has a definition for the current project index and default to 0 if not if (pageIcon.templateData.bullets[rootIcon.projectPageIndex].name == undefined){ projPI = 0; } else { projPI = rootIcon.projectPageIndex; } if (pageIcon.templateData.bullets[projPI].delaySecs != undefined){ The new pages project type in desktop Xerte now has an xwd and xml file giving the author xwd form based control over many of the project settings. This results in the existence of "extXML" thus making the original test for the desktop environment invalid. After much testing I ended up setting a variable in the setup script of the project, hence the new test. Not ideal. I tried to find something that would work "out of the box" for the desktop environment but was unable to do so. I tried using if (_level0jumpData.fileType.toLowerCase() == ".rlo") { but this worked in preview but not in published mode. One upside of the changes was that for both environments the learning object title can be set so the rootIcon.setTitle line has now been moved outside of the test for the environment. A further significant change in the model files is there to support the capability in desktop Xerte to have multiple data definitions for a single page. This addition is shown highlighted in green. The addition of the "green" code block with the appropriate top element name entry (highlighted in red) ensures that for XOT and pageTemplates users the value "projPI" is always 0. For desktop Xerte users it will default to 0 if the current value of rootIcon.projectPageIndex is referencing a data set for the page that has not been defined. References in the rest of the pages code that used to be of the form pageIcon.templateData.bullets[0] now become pageIcon.templateData.bullets[projPI] XOT and Page Templates are unaffected by this change, but Xerte desktop can now leverage multiple data definitions per page. If you wish, once you are happy with the way the two new you tube pages are working I can make the necessary alterations. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 09:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: Do you get it in standalone xerte? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: Error! Filename not specified. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome Error! Filename not specified. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Maybe it's the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of the YT pages. Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta install... If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I don't get the rogue scroller. If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the rogue scroller. However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this but does this point to a possible cause solution? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 09:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Do you get it in standalone xerte? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: [cid:image001.png at 01CD2854.EA656590] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome [cid:image002.jpg at 01CD2854.EA656590] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 2 11:30:39 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:30:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA8F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009a01cd2849$1cbf86d0$563e9470$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA8F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00bc01cd284e$a057c840$e10758c0$@co.uk> Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no difference. Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8, Safari, Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also although I was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who raised the issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody else on this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but let's open this out - I'll send the link to the other lists http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 11:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ahh. Maybe it's the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of the YT pages. Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta install... If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I don't get the rogue scroller. If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the rogue scroller. However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this but does this point to a possible cause solution? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 09:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Do you get it in standalone xerte? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed May 2 11:53:32 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:53:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA82@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA82@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Given the comments from Ron, I will carry on tidying up the Connector pages - fixing the odd bugs, setting the navigation to use setEnabled(), adding the colour picker to the menu etc. This will give a little while for the Youtube issues to settle down. The last thing we want is two people making changes to the same files. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 11:11, Julian Tenney wrote: > I?m happy with the two youtube pages, so go ahead, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 11:04 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > The default introduction to the model files has changed with the latest > set of models. > > > > if (extXML == undefined){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); > } > > > > new format > > > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); > > > > // handle multiple page data definitions in a project > if (rootIcon.projectPageIndex == undefined){ > rootIcon.projectPageIndex = 0; > } > // check if this page has a definition for the current project index and > default to 0 if not > if (pageIcon.templateData.bullets[rootIcon.projectPageIndex].name == > undefined){ > projPI = 0; > } else { > projPI = rootIcon.projectPageIndex; > } > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.bullets[projPI].delaySecs != undefined){ > > > > The new pages project type in desktop Xerte now has an xwd and xml file > giving the author xwd form based control over many of the project settings. > This results in the existence of "extXML" thus making the original test for > the desktop environment invalid. After much testing I ended up setting a > variable in the setup script of the project, hence the new test. Not ideal. > I tried to find something that would work "out of the box" for the desktop > environment but was unable to do so. I tried using > > > > if (_level0jumpData.fileType.toLowerCase() == ".rlo") { > > > > but this worked in preview but not in published mode. > > > > One upside of the changes was that for both environments the learning > object title can be set so the rootIcon.setTitle line has now been moved > outside of the test for the environment. > > > > A further significant change in the model files is there to support the > capability in desktop Xerte to have multiple data definitions for a single > page. This addition is shown highlighted in green. > > > > The addition of the "green" code block with the appropriate top element > name entry (highlighted in red) ensures that for XOT and pageTemplates > users the value "projPI" is always 0. For desktop Xerte users it will > default to 0 if the current value of rootIcon.projectPageIndex is > referencing a data set for the page that has not been defined. > > > > References in the rest of the pages code that used to be of the form > > > > pageIcon.templateData.bullets[0] > > > > now become > > > > pageIcon.templateData.bullets[projPI] > > > > XOT and Page Templates are unaffected by this change, but Xerte desktop > can now leverage multiple data definitions per page. > > > > If you wish, once you are happy with the way the two new you tube pages > are working I can make the necessary alterations. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 2 May 2012 09:31, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Do you get it in standalone xerte? > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 08:55 > > > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. > > > > Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll > create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get > other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 14:19 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll > bar on that in any of the browsers. > > > > So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being > the problem. > > > > I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so > it's not that. > > > > I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. > > > > Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc > and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others > here on this list could test and confirm either way? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:51 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > XP. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:51 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or > something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? > > > > Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. > > > > Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:40 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > No I?m not: > > > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:35 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 > > > > I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome > > > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:16 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > I aint seein? no scrollbar. > > > > This some third party thing you guys have installed? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:13 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Have uploaded. P60 of > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 > > > > We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which > also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. > > > > Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? > > > > In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to > my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on > IE9 too. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:02 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the > params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the > focus when it?s made, so you don?t lose it. That?s in preview_xerte_top > (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it?) > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 12:39 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 > > > > If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but > page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if > you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. > > > > Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as > resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or > perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and > Safari I can resize the pop-up. > > > > Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I > don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going > then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions > and view full screen are available. > > > > How will the feed page work? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 12:14 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its > in the XOT svn now as well. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 11:41 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Hi Julian > > did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn > that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the > two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 11:29 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page > > > > I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to > launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it?s gribbly: the > movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new > page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new > window, but I think it?s the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff > finished. > > > > If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I?ll do the RSS one as well, > but I?ll wait for any comments first. > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 2 13:51:47 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 13:51:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <00bc01cd284e$a057c840$e10758c0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009a01cd2849$1cbf86d0$563e9470$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA8F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bc01cd284e$a057c840$e10758c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AABC2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> This has got to be an engine problem: it looks like the Flash Component that provides scrolling, but before it's been properly initialised and moved / sized to the right place. What version of the flash player have you got? Have you got the latest engine on the web site? I just committed a latest one to the root of the toolkits svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 11:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no difference. Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8, Safari, Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also although I was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who raised the issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody else on this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but let's open this out - I'll send the link to the other lists http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 11:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ahh. Maybe it's the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of the YT pages. Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta install... If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I don't get the rogue scroller. If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the rogue scroller. However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this but does this point to a possible cause solution? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 09:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Do you get it in standalone xerte? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: [cid:image001.png at 01CD286A.B741CE40] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome [cid:image002.jpg at 01CD286A.B741CE40] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 2 14:12:52 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 14:12:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AABC2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009a01cd2849$1cbf86d0$563e9470$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA8F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bc01cd284e$a057c840$e10758c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA BC2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <010801cd2865$4a0ee330$de2ca990$@co.uk> Just updated the engine, cleared cache in both IE and Safari but same problem exists. Presumably you've seen the posts to the xerteforteachers list confirming that others get this too? My Flash player = 11.2.202.233 Reported by Adam on teachers list Windows 7 Chrome Flash: 11.2.202.235 Reported by Shirley on teachers list Yes I see it in IE 8 and in FF 8.0.1 I get a blank page, cannot see videos at all. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 13:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page This has got to be an engine problem: it looks like the Flash Component that provides scrolling, but before it's been properly initialised and moved / sized to the right place. What version of the flash player have you got? Have you got the latest engine on the web site? I just committed a latest one to the root of the toolkits svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 11:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no difference. Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8, Safari, Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also although I was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who raised the issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody else on this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but let's open this out - I'll send the link to the other lists http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 11:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ahh. Maybe it's the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of the YT pages. Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta install... If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I don't get the rogue scroller. If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the rogue scroller. However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this but does this point to a possible cause solution? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 09:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Do you get it in standalone xerte? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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I need to be able replicate it, preferably in standalone, to debug it. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 14:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just updated the engine, cleared cache in both IE and Safari but same problem exists. Presumably you've seen the posts to the xerteforteachers list confirming that others get this too? My Flash player = 11.2.202.233 Reported by Adam on teachers list Windows 7 Chrome Flash: 11.2.202.235 Reported by Shirley on teachers list Yes I see it in IE 8 and in FF 8.0.1 I get a blank page, cannot see videos at all. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 13:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page This has got to be an engine problem: it looks like the Flash Component that provides scrolling, but before it's been properly initialised and moved / sized to the right place. What version of the flash player have you got? Have you got the latest engine on the web site? I just committed a latest one to the root of the toolkits svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 11:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no difference. Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8, Safari, Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also although I was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who raised the issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody else on this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but let's open this out - I'll send the link to the other lists http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 11:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ahh. Maybe it's the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of the YT pages. Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta install... If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I don't get the rogue scroller. If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the rogue scroller. However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this but does this point to a possible cause solution? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 09:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Do you get it in standalone xerte? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: [cid:image001.png at 01CD286D.EE4A85A0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome [cid:image002.jpg at 01CD286D.EE4A85A0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 2 14:50:35 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 14:50:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <010801cd2865$4a0ee330$de2ca990$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009a01cd2849$1cbf86d0$563e9470$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA8F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bc01cd284e$a057c840$e10758c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA BC2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010801cd2865$4a0ee330$de2ca990$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAC42@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Can you try a couple of things... - turn scrolling off (delete the property) on the feedText icon in youtuberss.rlm ? //if the icon is screwing this up, this should stop any scrolling at all - put it back on, turn it to 1? //this will add scroll bars whatever the size of the feed text is returned, just curious if it makes any odds. If those fail we need to debug it from within the engine and see what's going on: I want to know if it's getting added twice (which I don't think it is). You could try customising the page and adding abutton to the youtuberss.rlm file so you could do things like: //try and kill it... feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip() delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar; //then try this on another button and see if it puts it back properly. If we can tie it down to the scroller in the text icon that would be a start. feedTextIcon.enableScroll(true); Does it happen on any other scrollable text fields? Maybe create one somewhere and see if that also screws up? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 14:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just updated the engine, cleared cache in both IE and Safari but same problem exists. Presumably you've seen the posts to the xerteforteachers list confirming that others get this too? My Flash player = 11.2.202.233 Reported by Adam on teachers list Windows 7 Chrome Flash: 11.2.202.235 Reported by Shirley on teachers list Yes I see it in IE 8 and in FF 8.0.1 I get a blank page, cannot see videos at all. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 13:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page This has got to be an engine problem: it looks like the Flash Component that provides scrolling, but before it's been properly initialised and moved / sized to the right place. What version of the flash player have you got? Have you got the latest engine on the web site? I just committed a latest one to the root of the toolkits svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 11:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no difference. Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8, Safari, Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also although I was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who raised the issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody else on this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but let's open this out - I'll send the link to the other lists http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 11:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ahh. Maybe it's the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of the YT pages. Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta install... If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I don't get the rogue scroller. If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the rogue scroller. However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this but does this point to a possible cause solution? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 09:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Do you get it in standalone xerte? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: [cid:image001.png at 01CD2872.C577D4C0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome [cid:image002.jpg at 01CD2872.C577D4C0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 2 15:31:55 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 15:31:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAC42@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009a01cd2849$1cbf86d0$563e9470$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA8F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bc01cd284e$a057c840$e10758c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA BC2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010801cd2865$4a0ee330$de2ca990$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAC42@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <003301cd2870$54e22f50$fea68df0$@co.uk> Ok possibly getting closer... with the .rlt open and hitting play... with scrolling off - problem gone with scrolling 1 - problem gone with scrolling auto - problem exists! Adding a script icon on it's own or attached to a button after feedText in the rlm and adding feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip() delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar; doesn't resolve the problem - doesn't do anything. BTW now that the selected video pops up in a new window would it be better to set the height of the instruction text box to something like 470? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 14:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Can you try a couple of things. - turn scrolling off (delete the property) on the feedText icon in youtuberss.rlm ? //if the icon is screwing this up, this should stop any scrolling at all - put it back on, turn it to 1? //this will add scroll bars whatever the size of the feed text is returned, just curious if it makes any odds. If those fail we need to debug it from within the engine and see what's going on: I want to know if it's getting added twice (which I don't think it is). You could try customising the page and adding abutton to the youtuberss.rlm file so you could do things like: //try and kill it. feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip() delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar; //then try this on another button and see if it puts it back properly. If we can tie it down to the scroller in the text icon that would be a start. feedTextIcon.enableScroll(true); Does it happen on any other scrollable text fields? Maybe create one somewhere and see if that also screws up? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 14:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just updated the engine, cleared cache in both IE and Safari but same problem exists. Presumably you've seen the posts to the xerteforteachers list confirming that others get this too? My Flash player = 11.2.202.233 Reported by Adam on teachers list Windows 7 Chrome Flash: 11.2.202.235 Reported by Shirley on teachers list Yes I see it in IE 8 and in FF 8.0.1 I get a blank page, cannot see videos at all. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 13:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page This has got to be an engine problem: it looks like the Flash Component that provides scrolling, but before it's been properly initialised and moved / sized to the right place. What version of the flash player have you got? Have you got the latest engine on the web site? I just committed a latest one to the root of the toolkits svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 11:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no difference. Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8, Safari, Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also although I was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who raised the issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody else on this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but let's open this out - I'll send the link to the other lists http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 11:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ahh. Maybe it's the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of the YT pages. Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta install... If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I don't get the rogue scroller. If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the rogue scroller. However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this but does this point to a possible cause solution? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 09:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Do you get it in standalone xerte? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 2 15:43:13 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 15:43:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <003301cd2870$54e22f50$fea68df0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009a01cd2849$1cbf86d0$563e9470$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA8F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bc01cd284e$a057c840$e10758c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA BC2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010801cd2865$4a0ee330$de2ca990$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAC42@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003301cd2870$54e22f50$fea68df0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <004b01cd2871$e961f920$bc25eb60$@co.uk> I'm sure you would rather identify the exact cause/solution/difference but just thinking a reliable solution appears to be to set scrolling to 1 rather than auto in this particular case. Whereas normally I would say the last thing we want to do is to force scrollbars where they're not needed in this case because most of the time there will be enough results to display scroll bars anyway and also because of the mix of thumbs and text the aesthetics aren't spoiled by the scrollbar is setting it to 1 a suitable solution? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 15:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok possibly getting closer... with the .rlt open and hitting play... with scrolling off - problem gone with scrolling 1 - problem gone with scrolling auto - problem exists! Adding a script icon on it's own or attached to a button after feedText in the rlm and adding feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip() delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar; doesn't resolve the problem - doesn't do anything. BTW now that the selected video pops up in a new window would it be better to set the height of the instruction text box to something like 470? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 14:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Can you try a couple of things. - turn scrolling off (delete the property) on the feedText icon in youtuberss.rlm ? //if the icon is screwing this up, this should stop any scrolling at all - put it back on, turn it to 1? //this will add scroll bars whatever the size of the feed text is returned, just curious if it makes any odds. If those fail we need to debug it from within the engine and see what's going on: I want to know if it's getting added twice (which I don't think it is). You could try customising the page and adding abutton to the youtuberss.rlm file so you could do things like: //try and kill it. feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip() delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar; //then try this on another button and see if it puts it back properly. If we can tie it down to the scroller in the text icon that would be a start. feedTextIcon.enableScroll(true); Does it happen on any other scrollable text fields? Maybe create one somewhere and see if that also screws up? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 14:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just updated the engine, cleared cache in both IE and Safari but same problem exists. Presumably you've seen the posts to the xerteforteachers list confirming that others get this too? My Flash player = 11.2.202.233 Reported by Adam on teachers list Windows 7 Chrome Flash: 11.2.202.235 Reported by Shirley on teachers list Yes I see it in IE 8 and in FF 8.0.1 I get a blank page, cannot see videos at all. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 13:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page This has got to be an engine problem: it looks like the Flash Component that provides scrolling, but before it's been properly initialised and moved / sized to the right place. What version of the flash player have you got? Have you got the latest engine on the web site? I just committed a latest one to the root of the toolkits svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 11:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no difference. Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8, Safari, Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also although I was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who raised the issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody else on this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but let's open this out - I'll send the link to the other lists http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 11:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ahh. Maybe it's the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of the YT pages. Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta install... If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I don't get the rogue scroller. If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the rogue scroller. However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this but does this point to a possible cause solution? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 09:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Do you get it in standalone xerte? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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I have updated to the latest XMLengine.swf. Is anyone else experiencing similar javascript problems with the beta desktop files? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed May 2 19:17:45 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 20:17:45 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem running javascript in beta of desktop Xerte In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA17A49.6090301@tor.nl> It seems to work fine for me... (Firefox 12, IE9) Op 2-5-2012 19:50, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > I have converted the models for the youtube pages for desktop use. > > However I am finding that I cannot get even a simple > > callJS('alert','hello'); > > to function in my published project, so I can't see much chance of > being able to test the youtube model files. > > I hit this issue a while back when some changes to I think it was the > XMLengine.swf were made. > > At the time I was developing the code to allow users to specify a page > ID in a url so that they could open a Xerte / XOT project at a > specific page. > > I hit some inconsistencies between browsers and then I reached a point > when I could no longer run any javascript calls. > > I have updated to the latest XMLengine.swf. > > Is anyone else experiencing similar javascript problems with the beta > desktop files? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed May 2 21:17:58 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:17:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem running javascript in beta of desktop Xerte In-Reply-To: <4FA17A49.6090301@tor.nl> References: <4FA17A49.6090301@tor.nl> Message-ID: Is the beta release of the Xerte desktop up to date with all the latest files? Is it still available from the same location? I wonder if my current installation may have an out of date file somewhere. It might be useful to put my copies of the models and xwds to one side and then do a complete fresh install. There have been so many updates to various swf files since it was installed. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 19:17, Tom Reijnders wrote: > It seems to work fine for me... (Firefox 12, IE9) > > > > Op 2-5-2012 19:50, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I have converted the models for the youtube pages for desktop use. > > However I am finding that I cannot get even a simple > > callJS('alert','hello'); > > to function in my published project, so I can't see much chance of being > able to test the youtube model files. > > I hit this issue a while back when some changes to I think it was the > XMLengine.swf were made. > > At the time I was developing the code to allow users to specify a page > ID in a url so that they could open a Xerte / XOT project at a specific > page. > > I hit some inconsistencies between browsers and then I reached a point > when I could no longer run any javascript calls. > > I have updated to the latest XMLengine.swf. > > Is anyone else experiencing similar javascript problems with the beta > desktop files? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing listXerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed May 2 21:36:23 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:36:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / translation.xwd The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems with the Google translation service. However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the data.xwd file. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates > to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. > > I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube > individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the > svn of these pages. > > The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in > none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing > Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages. > > As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models conform > to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated pages > can be tried out in the XOT beta. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Firefox 12, IE9) > > > > Op 2-5-2012 19:50, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> I have converted the models for the youtube pages for desktop use. >> >> However I am finding that I cannot get even a simple >> >> callJS('alert','hello'); >> >> to function in my published project, so I can't see much chance >> of being able to test the youtube model files. >> >> I hit this issue a while back when some changes to I think it was >> the XMLengine.swf were made. >> >> At the time I was developing the code to allow users to specify a >> page ID in a url so that they could open a Xerte / XOT project at >> a specific page. >> >> I hit some inconsistencies between browsers and then I reached a >> point when I could no longer run any javascript calls. >> >> I have updated to the latest XMLengine.swf. >> >> Is anyone else experiencing similar javascript problems with the >> beta desktop files? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does > not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there > have been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. > > Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? > > The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section > do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / > translation.xwd > The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of > having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the > name property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is > xerte. This is why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called > xerteModel. > > The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards > section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due > to problems with the Google translation service. > > However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. > > I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the > XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of > the data.xwd file. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn > updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. > > I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new > youTube individual pages and I have not had time to check which > version is in the svn of these pages. > > The new updated models for the Connector pages have some > differences in none - optional properties so will not be directly > compatible with existing Connector pages. This should not affect > the Inventory or Quiz pages. > > As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models > conform to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the > updated pages can be tried out in the XOT beta. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From i.donkervoort at 12change.eu Thu May 3 09:49:40 2012 From: i.donkervoort at 12change.eu (Inge Donkervoort 12Change) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 10:49:40 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Online Help In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA8AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA79B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <01e201cd27db$2d9baab0$88d30010$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA8AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FA246A4.6080700@12change.eu> Yes, no problem. Then we could make it a multi language help. The way it would work is that we make a category 'help' with perhaps sub categories 'text', 'media'. etc. and every page a joomla article with screendumps and/or screen video's. We can add selected people to the website as content editors. When there is a question that is been asked often on the forum/mailinglist we could add it to the community website in a FAQ. Bye, Inge 12Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 2-5-2012 8:54, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Not a bad idea. Inge has been working on the community web site as > well -- I wonder if it would sit nicely in there? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 21:44 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Online Help > > Not really a proper help authoring tool but if you want the benefits > of collaborative development what about Google sites? Here's an > example we developed collaboratively on the LCoM project > https://sites.google.com/site/spacequickhelp/ > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 16:58 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Online Help > > Just bringing a conversation with Jonathan to the list: does anyone > know / recommend / use anything that makes it easy to create online > help. Something like asdoc / javadoc but not necessarily for code, > something we could use to create a help file for all the page types? > > I've used helpmaker (because its free and OK) in the past to create > the xerte help file, but it's a .chm file, I'm thinking about > something more web based. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu May 3 11:35:52 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:35:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> Message-ID: Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that contain it from breaking? I have been checking over earlier discussions. My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for the next release of Xerte. Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer to do that Tom? I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages restrict="d" // desktop restrict="t" // toolkits if that would meet your requirements. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: > The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they > don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been > changed into a paid service) > > So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. > > Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not > need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no > changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. > > Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? > > The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section > do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / > translation.xwd > The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having > the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name > property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is > why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. > > The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards > section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to > problems with the Google translation service. > > However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. > > I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT > repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the > data.xwd file. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > >> I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates >> to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. >> >> I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube >> individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the >> svn of these pages. >> >> The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in >> none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing >> Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages. >> >> As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models >> conform to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated >> pages can be tried out in the XOT beta. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 3 11:41:15 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 12:41:15 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> Actual question on the export code... If jmol and/or mastraction is used, where do they have to end up in the zip file? Complete jmol tree and/or mapstraction in jmol cq. mapstraction folder? Any others? mediaViewer? Or is that only used during authoring. Op 2-5-2012 12:02, Ron Mitchell schreef: > agreed but... > > Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading rather > than installing from scratch which previously has only required replacing > files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code > > But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit > config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. > That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. > > I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should be. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code > > > On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: > >> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration >> config needs to be changed to require? e.g. >> >> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >> require_once($row['integration_config_path']); >> } >> >> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >> require($row['integration_config_path']); >> } >> > > > No. > > require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen more > than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. > > >> If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in >> using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing > anyway? > > > > But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit > config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. > That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. > > David. > > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu May 3 11:47:05 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:47:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> Message-ID: in the root folder then the issue is what happens when you import..... On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Actual question on the export code... > > If jmol and/or mastraction is used, where do they have to end up in the zip > file? > > Complete jmol tree and/or mapstraction in jmol cq. mapstraction folder? > > Any others? mediaViewer? Or is that only used during authoring. > > Op 2-5-2012 12:02, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> agreed but... >> >> Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading rather >> than installing from scratch which previously has only required replacing >> files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >> >> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit >> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. >> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >> >> I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should be. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >> Goodwin >> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >> >> >> On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >>> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration >>> config needs to be changed to require? e.g. >>> >>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>> ? ? ? ?require_once($row['integration_config_path']); >>> ? ?} >>> >>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>> ? ? ? ?require($row['integration_config_path']); >>> ? ?} >>> >> >> >> No. >> >> require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen more >> than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. >> >> >>> If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in >>> using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing >> >> anyway? >> >> >> >> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit >> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. >> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >> >> David. >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >> not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >> do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 3 11:48:36 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 12:48:36 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> Yes, the restrict would be perfect. I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be > included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that > contain it from breaking? > > I have been checking over earlier discussions. > > My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte > model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. > > I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards > section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards > section, which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that > it would make sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as > THE location for the next release of Xerte. > > Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you > prefer to do that Tom? > > I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to > identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the > indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do > with the files that belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). > > I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages > > restrict="d" // desktop > restrict="t" // toolkits > > if that would meet your requirements. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because > they don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it > has been changed into a paid service) > > So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. > > Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this >> does not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as >> there have been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. >> >> Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? >> >> The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards >> section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or >> translation.rlm / translation.xwd >> The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule >> of having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used >> in the name property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the >> file is xerte. This is why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and >> xwd called xerteModel. >> >> The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the >> pageWizards section of the xerte svn as the translation page was >> being dropped due to problems with the Google translation service. >> >> However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward >> compatibility. >> >> I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to >> the XOT repository but some of the model files will require a >> rebuild of the data.xwd file. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan > > wrote: >> >> I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte >> svn updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the >> Inventory page. >> >> I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new >> youTube individual pages and I have not had time to check >> which version is in the svn of these pages. >> >> The new updated models for the Connector pages have some >> differences in none - optional properties so will not be >> directly compatible with existing Connector pages. This >> should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages. >> >> As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the >> models conform to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd >> so that the updated pages can be tried out in the XOT beta. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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I want to have a look at import as well. Don't know how import works at the moment. Op 3-5-2012 12:47, Pat Lockley schreef: > in the root folder > > then the issue is what happens when you import..... > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> Actual question on the export code... >> >> If jmol and/or mastraction is used, where do they have to end up in the zip >> file? >> >> Complete jmol tree and/or mapstraction in jmol cq. mapstraction folder? >> >> Any others? mediaViewer? Or is that only used during authoring. >> >> Op 2-5-2012 12:02, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>> agreed but... >>> >>> Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading rather >>> than installing from scratch which previously has only required replacing >>> files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>> >>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit >>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. >>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>> >>> I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should be. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>> Goodwin >>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>> >>> >>> On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: >>> >>>> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration >>>> config needs to be changed to require? e.g. >>>> >>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>> require_once($row['integration_config_path']); >>>> } >>>> >>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>> require($row['integration_config_path']); >>>> } >>>> >>> >>> No. >>> >>> require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen more >>> than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. >>> >>> >>>> If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in >>>> using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing >>> anyway? >>> >>> >>> >>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit >>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. >>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>> >>> David. >>> >>> >>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>> >>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>> >>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>> not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>> do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 3 12:17:05 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 13:17:05 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> Pat, How is $xerte_toolkits_site->apache=="true" supposed to work? Tom Op 3-5-2012 12:51, Tom Reijnders schreef: > It should be skipped then. I want to have a look at import as well. > Don't know how import works at the moment. > > Op 3-5-2012 12:47, Pat Lockley schreef: >> in the root folder >> >> then the issue is what happens when you import..... >> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> Actual question on the export code... >>> >>> If jmol and/or mastraction is used, where do they have to end up in >>> the zip >>> file? >>> >>> Complete jmol tree and/or mapstraction in jmol cq. mapstraction folder? >>> >>> Any others? mediaViewer? Or is that only used during authoring. >>> >>> Op 2-5-2012 12:02, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>> agreed but... >>>> >>>> Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading >>>> rather >>>> than installing from scratch which previously has only required >>>> replacing >>>> files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>>> Tenney >>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>> >>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need >>>> to edit >>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation >>>> time. >>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>> >>>> I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should >>>> be. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>>> Goodwin >>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: >>>> >>>>> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the >>>>> integration >>>>> config needs to be changed to require? e.g. >>>>> >>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>> require_once($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>> require($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>> } >>>>> >>>> >>>> No. >>>> >>>> require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't >>>> happen more >>>> than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. >>>> >>>> >>>>> If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in >>>>> using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing >>>> anyway? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need >>>> to edit >>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation >>>> time. >>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>> >>>> David. >>>> >>>> >>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>> >>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>> >>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>> message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >>>> Please do >>>> not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>> in any >>>> attachment. 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Email communications with >> the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >> > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu May 3 12:21:28 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:21:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> Message-ID: that effectively means "I am using mod_rewrite and a .htaccess" i.e play_560 not play.php?template_id=560 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Pat, > > How is $xerte_toolkits_site->apache=="true" supposed to work? > > Tom > > Op 3-5-2012 12:51, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> >> It should be skipped then. I want to have a look at import as well. Don't >> know how import works at the moment. >> >> Op 3-5-2012 12:47, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> >>> in the root folder >>> >>> then the issue is what happens when you import..... >>> >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>> >>>> Actual question on the export code... >>>> >>>> If jmol and/or mastraction is used, where do they have to end up in the >>>> zip >>>> file? >>>> >>>> Complete jmol tree and/or mapstraction in jmol cq. mapstraction folder? >>>> >>>> Any others? mediaViewer? Or is that only used during authoring. >>>> >>>> Op 2-5-2012 12:02, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>>> >>>>> agreed but... >>>>> >>>>> Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading >>>>> rather >>>>> than installing from scratch which previously has only required >>>>> replacing >>>>> files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>>>> Tenney >>>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>> >>>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to >>>>> edit >>>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. >>>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>>> >>>>> I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should be. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>>>> Goodwin >>>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration >>>>>> config needs to be changed to require? e.g. >>>>>> >>>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>>> ? ? ? ?require_once($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>>> ? ?} >>>>>> >>>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>>> ? ? ? ?require($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>>> ? ?} >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No. >>>>> >>>>> require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen >>>>> more >>>>> than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in >>>>>> using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing >>>>> >>>>> anyway? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to >>>>> edit >>>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. >>>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>> >>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>> >>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>> and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>> in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please >>>>> do >>>>> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>> any >>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>> email >>>>> do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>> the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 3 12:23:52 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 13:23:52 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> Ok.. Where is that .htaccess? I.e. if I add an export_scorm2004_ ... link in url_library.php, where do I add the rewrite rule, or what is the rule so I know what I get in the code? Op 3-5-2012 13:21, Pat Lockley schreef: > that effectively means "I am using mod_rewrite and a .htaccess" > > i.e > > play_560 > > not > > play.php?template_id=560 > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> Pat, >> >> How is $xerte_toolkits_site->apache=="true" supposed to work? >> >> Tom >> >> Op 3-5-2012 12:51, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>> It should be skipped then. I want to have a look at import as well. Don't >>> know how import works at the moment. >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 12:47, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> in the root folder >>>> >>>> then the issue is what happens when you import..... >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> Actual question on the export code... >>>>> >>>>> If jmol and/or mastraction is used, where do they have to end up in the >>>>> zip >>>>> file? >>>>> >>>>> Complete jmol tree and/or mapstraction in jmol cq. mapstraction folder? >>>>> >>>>> Any others? mediaViewer? Or is that only used during authoring. >>>>> >>>>> Op 2-5-2012 12:02, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>>>> agreed but... >>>>>> >>>>>> Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading >>>>>> rather >>>>>> than installing from scratch which previously has only required >>>>>> replacing >>>>>> files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>>>>> Tenney >>>>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to >>>>>> edit >>>>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. >>>>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should be. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration >>>>>>> config needs to be changed to require? e.g. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>>>> require_once($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>>>> require($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>> No. >>>>>> >>>>>> require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen >>>>>> more >>>>>> than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in >>>>>>> using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing >>>>>> anyway? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to >>>>>> edit >>>>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. >>>>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>> in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu May 3 12:27:21 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:27:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> Message-ID: you might need to look in one of the JS files for a link library function (might only be for plays and previews) There is a .htaccess (htaccess.conf) in the setup folder. There is a "replace" variable for each line, so just copy one of those On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Ok.. Where is that .htaccess? I.e. if I add an export_scorm2004_ ... link in > url_library.php, where do I add the rewrite rule, or what is the rule so I > know what I get in the code? > > Op 3-5-2012 13:21, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> that effectively means "I am using mod_rewrite and a .htaccess" >> >> i.e >> >> play_560 >> >> not >> >> play.php?template_id=560 >> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>> >>> Pat, >>> >>> How is $xerte_toolkits_site->apache=="true" supposed to work? >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 12:51, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>>> >>>> It should be skipped then. I want to have a look at import as well. >>>> Don't >>>> know how import works at the moment. >>>> >>>> Op 3-5-2012 12:47, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>> in the root folder >>>>> >>>>> then the issue is what happens when you import..... >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Actual question on the export code... >>>>>> >>>>>> If jmol and/or mastraction is used, where do they have to end up in >>>>>> the >>>>>> zip >>>>>> file? >>>>>> >>>>>> Complete jmol tree and/or mapstraction in jmol cq. mapstraction >>>>>> folder? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any others? mediaViewer? Or is that only used during authoring. >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 2-5-2012 12:02, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> agreed but... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading >>>>>>> rather >>>>>>> than installing from scratch which previously has only required >>>>>>> replacing >>>>>>> files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>>>>>> Tenney >>>>>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to >>>>>>> edit >>>>>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation >>>>>>> time. >>>>>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should >>>>>>> be. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the >>>>>>>> integration >>>>>>>> config needs to be changed to require? e.g. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>>>>> ? ? ? ?require_once($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>>>>> ? ?} >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>>>>> ? ? ? ?require($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>>>>> ? ?} >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> No. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> anyway? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to >>>>>>> edit >>>>>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation >>>>>>> time. >>>>>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu May 3 12:41:26 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:41:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> Message-ID: I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the restrict property in the // example for basic.xwd // example for indexChanger.xwd Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte and XOT Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Yes, the restrict would be perfect. > > I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose > all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) > > Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be > included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that > contain it from breaking? > > I have been checking over earlier discussions. > > My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model > and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. > > I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards > section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, > which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make > sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for > the next release of Xerte. > > Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer > to do that Tom? > > I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to > identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger > page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that > belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). > > I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages > > restrict="d" // desktop > restrict="t" // toolkits > > if that would meet your requirements. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they >> don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been >> changed into a paid service) >> >> So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. >> >> Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does >> not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have >> been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. >> >> Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? >> >> The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section >> do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / >> translation.xwd >> The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having >> the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name >> property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is >> why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. >> >> The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards >> section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to >> problems with the Google translation service. >> >> However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward >> compatibility. >> >> I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the >> XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the >> data.xwd file. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: >> >>> I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn >>> updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. >>> >>> I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube >>> individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the >>> svn of these pages. >>> >>> The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences >>> in none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with >>> existing Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz >>> pages. >>> >>> As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models >>> conform to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated >>> pages can be tried out in the XOT beta. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 3 12:35:35 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 13:35:35 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FA26D87.3010504@tor.nl> Thanks, I also added scorm_rich_ and export_local_ as they appear to be missing Op 3-5-2012 13:27, Pat Lockley schreef: > you might need to look in one of the JS files for a link library > function (might only be for plays and previews) > > There is a .htaccess (htaccess.conf) in the setup folder. > > There is a "replace" variable for each line, so just copy one of those > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> Ok.. Where is that .htaccess? I.e. if I add an export_scorm2004_ ... link in >> url_library.php, where do I add the rewrite rule, or what is the rule so I >> know what I get in the code? >> >> Op 3-5-2012 13:21, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >>> that effectively means "I am using mod_rewrite and a .htaccess" >>> >>> i.e >>> >>> play_560 >>> >>> not >>> >>> play.php?template_id=560 >>> >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> Pat, >>>> >>>> How is $xerte_toolkits_site->apache=="true" supposed to work? >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 3-5-2012 12:51, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>>>> It should be skipped then. I want to have a look at import as well. >>>>> Don't >>>>> know how import works at the moment. >>>>> >>>>> Op 3-5-2012 12:47, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> in the root folder >>>>>> >>>>>> then the issue is what happens when you import..... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Actual question on the export code... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If jmol and/or mastraction is used, where do they have to end up in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> zip >>>>>>> file? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Complete jmol tree and/or mapstraction in jmol cq. mapstraction >>>>>>> folder? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any others? mediaViewer? Or is that only used during authoring. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 2-5-2012 12:02, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>>>>>> agreed but... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading >>>>>>>> rather >>>>>>>> than installing from scratch which previously has only required >>>>>>>> replacing >>>>>>>> files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>>>>>>> Tenney >>>>>>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to >>>>>>>> edit >>>>>>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation >>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should >>>>>>>> be. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David >>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the >>>>>>>>> integration >>>>>>>>> config needs to be changed to require? e.g. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>>>>>> require_once($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>>>>>> require($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing >>>>>>>> anyway? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to >>>>>>>> edit >>>>>>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation >>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 3 12:46:37 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 13:46:37 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> Yes, that would be fine... basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of the generated template.xwd) Tom Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section > but it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it > generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in > newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put > the restrict property in the > e.g.s > > menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" > restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd > > // example for indexChanger.xwd > > Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both > Xerte and XOT > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Yes, the restrict would be perfect. > > I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would > loose all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide > to do that) > > Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need >> to be included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing >> projects that contain it from breaking? >> >> I have been checking over earlier discussions. >> >> My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte >> model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. >> >> I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and >> pagewizards section and the few updates had all taken place in >> the pageWizards section, which is why I updated the pageWizards >> section. I think that it would make sense soon to get the runtime >> / pages section set up as THE location for the next release of Xerte. >> >> Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you >> prefer to do that Tom? >> >> I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files >> to identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the >> indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to >> do with the files that belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the >> XerteModel page). >> >> I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages >> >> restrict="d" // desktop >> restrict="t" // toolkits >> >> if that would meet your requirements. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders > > wrote: >> >> The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, >> because they don't work anymore (the google API is not >> working anymore, it has been changed into a paid service) >> >> So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. >> >> Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, >>> this does not need to prevent the generation of a new >>> data.xwd file as there have been no changes to the two >>> youtube pages xwd files. >>> >>> Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd >>> file? >>> >>> The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / >>> pageWizards section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / >>> xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / translation.xwd >>> The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the >>> rule of having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file >>> as was used in the name property for the rlm. The name is >>> xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is why the pageWizard >>> folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. >>> >>> The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the >>> pageWizards section of the xerte svn as the translation page >>> was being dropped due to problems with the Google >>> translation service. >>> >>> However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward >>> compatibility. >>> >>> I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and >>> enhanced to the XOT repository but some of the model files >>> will require a rebuild of the data.xwd file. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the >>> Xerte svn updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz >>> and the Inventory page. >>> >>> I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the >>> new youTube individual pages and I have not had time to >>> check which version is in the svn of these pages. >>> >>> The new updated models for the Connector pages have some >>> differences in none - optional properties so will not be >>> directly compatible with existing Connector pages. This >>> should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages. >>> >>> As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make >>> the models conform to the new format I will then rebuild >>> data.xwd so that the updated pages can be tried out in >>> the XOT beta. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you >>> have received this message in error, please send it back to >>> me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or >>> disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >>> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >>> University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents >>> of an attachment may still contain software viruses which >>> could damage your computer system: you are advised to >>> perform your own checks. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 3 12:48:04 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 13:48:04 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", restrict="template" Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: > Yes, that would be fine... > > basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change > that. The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is > the basis of the generated template.xwd) > > Tom > > Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section >> but it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it >> generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in >> newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put >> the restrict property in the > >> e.g.s >> >> > menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" >> restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd >> >> // example for indexChanger.xwd >> >> Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both >> Xerte and XOT >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders > > wrote: >> >> Yes, the restrict would be perfect. >> >> I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you >> would loose all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we >> decide to do that) >> >> Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need >>> to be included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing >>> projects that contain it from breaking? >>> >>> I have been checking over earlier discussions. >>> >>> My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the >>> xerte model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. >>> >>> I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and >>> pagewizards section and the few updates had all taken place in >>> the pageWizards section, which is why I updated the pageWizards >>> section. I think that it would make sense soon to get the >>> runtime / pages section set up as THE location for the next >>> release of Xerte. >>> >>> Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would >>> you prefer to do that Tom? >>> >>> I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files >>> to identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the >>> indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what >>> to do with the files that belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the >>> XerteModel page). >>> >>> I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages >>> >>> restrict="d" // desktop >>> restrict="t" // toolkits >>> >>> if that would meet your requirements. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders >> > wrote: >>> >>> The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, >>> because they don't work anymore (the google API is not >>> working anymore, it has been changed into a paid service) >>> >>> So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. >>> >>> Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>> Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files >>>> locally, this does not need to prevent the generation of a >>>> new data.xwd file as there have been no changes to the two >>>> youtube pages xwd files. >>>> >>>> Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd >>>> file? >>>> >>>> The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / >>>> pageWizards section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / >>>> xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / translation.xwd >>>> The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the >>>> rule of having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file >>>> as was used in the name property for the rlm. The name is >>>> xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is why the >>>> pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. >>>> >>>> The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the >>>> pageWizards section of the xerte svn as the translation >>>> page was being dropped due to problems with the Google >>>> translation service. >>>> >>>> However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward >>>> compatibility. >>>> >>>> I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and >>>> enhanced to the XOT repository but some of the model files >>>> will require a rebuild of the data.xwd file. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the >>>> Xerte svn updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz >>>> and the Inventory page. >>>> >>>> I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the >>>> new youTube individual pages and I have not had time to >>>> check which version is in the svn of these pages. >>>> >>>> The new updated models for the Connector pages have >>>> some differences in none - optional properties so will >>>> not be directly compatible with existing Connector >>>> pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages. >>>> >>>> As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make >>>> the models conform to the new format I will then >>>> rebuild data.xwd so that the updated pages can be tried >>>> out in the XOT beta. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you >>>> have received this message in error, please send it back to >>>> me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or >>>> disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>> any attachment. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu May 3 12:48:17 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:48:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <4FA26D87.3010504@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <4FA26D87.3010504@tor.nl> Message-ID: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Thanks, > > I also added scorm_rich_ and export_local_ as they appear to be missing > > Op 3-5-2012 13:27, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> you might need to look in one of the JS files for a link library >> function (might only be for plays and previews) >> >> There is a .htaccess (htaccess.conf) in the setup folder. >> >> There is a "replace" variable for each line, so just copy one of those >> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>> >>> Ok.. Where is that .htaccess? I.e. if I add an export_scorm2004_ ... link >>> in >>> url_library.php, where do I add the rewrite rule, or what is the rule so >>> I >>> know what I get in the code? >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 13:21, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> >>>> that effectively means "I am using mod_rewrite and a .htaccess" >>>> >>>> i.e >>>> >>>> play_560 >>>> >>>> not >>>> >>>> play.php?template_id=560 >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Pat, >>>>> >>>>> How is $xerte_toolkits_site->apache=="true" supposed to work? >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 3-5-2012 12:51, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>> It should be skipped then. I want to have a look at import as well. >>>>>> Don't >>>>>> know how import works at the moment. >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 12:47, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in the root folder >>>>>>> >>>>>>> then the issue is what happens when you import..... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Actual question on the export code... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If jmol and/or mastraction is used, where do they have to end up in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> zip >>>>>>>> file? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Complete jmol tree and/or mapstraction in jmol cq. mapstraction >>>>>>>> folder? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any others? mediaViewer? Or is that only used during authoring. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 2-5-2012 12:02, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> agreed but... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading >>>>>>>>> rather >>>>>>>>> than installing from scratch which previously has only required >>>>>>>>> replacing >>>>>>>>> files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> Julian >>>>>>>>> Tenney >>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> edit >>>>>>>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation >>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should >>>>>>>>> be. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the >>>>>>>>>> integration >>>>>>>>>> config needs to be changed to require? e.g. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>>>>>>> ? ? ? ?require_once($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>>>>>>> ? ?} >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>>>>>>>>> ? ? ? ?require($row['integration_config_path']); >>>>>>>>>> ? ?} >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't >>>>>>>>> happen >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> using the database for this given that xot config.php needs >>>>>>>>>> editing >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> anyway? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> edit >>>>>>>>> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation >>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu May 3 12:57:24 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:57:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <4FA 26D87.3010504@tor.nl> Message-ID: <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: > i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. 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(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu May 3 13:01:51 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 13:01:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: > > On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: > >> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers > > > > Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislatio From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 3 13:20:41 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 14:20:41 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: > Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones > might have hungry regexs? > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: >> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >> >>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >> >> >> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >> >> David. >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislatio > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu May 3 13:25:17 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 13:25:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> Message-ID: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I will, but they are really simple. > > Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >> might have hungry regexs? >> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >> ?wrote: >>> >>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>> >>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>> >>> >>> >>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>> >>> David. >>> >>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>> >>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>> >>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislatio >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu May 3 15:15:40 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 15:15:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> Message-ID: OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed into the PageWizards section of the svn. I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash player permissions. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", > restrict="template" > > Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > Yes, that would be fine... > > basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. > The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of > the generated template.xwd) > > Tom > > Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but > it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it > generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in > newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the > restrict property in the > e.g.s > > menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" > restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd > > // example for indexChanger.xwd > > Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte > and XOT > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> Yes, the restrict would be perfect. >> >> I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose >> all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) >> >> Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be >> included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that >> contain it from breaking? >> >> I have been checking over earlier discussions. >> >> My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model >> and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. >> >> I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards >> section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, >> which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make >> sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for >> the next release of Xerte. >> >> Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you >> prefer to do that Tom? >> >> I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to >> identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger >> page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that >> belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). >> >> I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages >> >> restrict="d" // desktop >> restrict="t" // toolkits >> >> if that would meet your requirements. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> >>> The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they >>> don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been >>> changed into a paid service) >>> >>> So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. >>> >>> Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> >>> Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does >>> not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have >>> been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. >>> >>> Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? >>> >>> The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section >>> do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / >>> translation.xwd >>> The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of >>> having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name >>> property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is >>> why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. >>> >>> The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards >>> section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to >>> problems with the Google translation service. >>> >>> However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward >>> compatibility. >>> >>> I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the >>> XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the >>> data.xwd file. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: >>> >>>> I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn >>>> updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. >>>> >>>> I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube >>>> individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the >>>> svn of these pages. >>>> >>>> The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences >>>> in none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with >>>> existing Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz >>>> pages. >>>> >>>> As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models >>>> conform to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated >>>> pages can be tried out in the XOT beta. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >>> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 3 16:24:56 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 17:24:56 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: > i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I will, but they are really simple. >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>> might have hungry regexs? >>> >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>> wrote: >>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>> >>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>> >>>> >>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>> >>>> David. >>>> >>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu May 3 17:25:19 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 17:25:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> Message-ID: <1A5A6AB7-9009-4725-9A8F-37291C077018@palepurple.co.uk> On 3 May 2012, at 16:24, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I just committed an update to the export code: > > Fixes and additions for export > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Yeah - I know.... that needs consideration - and presumably integration into management.php or something like that. The whole thing of e.g. what salt to use or what hash to use, or what options need passing to Moodle (e.g. Ron's restriction by roles) implies that the authentication agent(s) need a setOptions(array $x) method, and some way of defining/passing these in during setup (Which shouldn't be too hard). So - * Each 'agent' has it's own set of options (store as serialised PHP in the db somewhere) * Each 'agent' has inbuilt functionality to allow the admin to edit/set/view the options (presumably render a zend_form instance, or just echo out html... whatever). * When instantiating the agent, configure it with the options which are stashed in the DB. I've just got to pull my finger out and try and do something for this (I know how; I just need to find the time to do it) David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 3 19:48:07 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 20:48:07 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository Updated build script to obey restrict rebuilt xerte-beta.exe Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. > > Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing > the Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now > committed into the PageWizards section of the svn. > > I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned > flash player permissions. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", > restrict="template" > > Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> Yes, that would be fine... >> >> basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to >> change that. The exception is hard coded anyway, like >> template.xwd. (It is the basis of the generated template.xwd) >> >> Tom >> >> Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes >>> section but it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd >>> not the xml it generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not >>> have any entries in newNodes. So would it work for what you want >>> to use if for if we put the restrict property in the >> as every xwd has that tag? >>> >>> e.g.s >>> >>> >> menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" >>> restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd >>> >>> // example for indexChanger.xwd >>> >>> Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by >>> both Xerte and XOT >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders >> > wrote: >>> >>> Yes, the restrict would be perfect. >>> >>> I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you >>> would loose all history and I don't want that) in the svn >>> (if we decide to do that) >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>> Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still >>>> need to be included in the XOT release if only to prevent >>>> existing projects that contain it from breaking? >>>> >>>> I have been checking over earlier discussions. >>>> >>>> My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the >>>> xerte model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of >>>> the svn. >>>> >>>> I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and >>>> pagewizards section and the few updates had all taken place >>>> in the pageWizards section, which is why I updated the >>>> pageWizards section. I think that it would make sense soon >>>> to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location >>>> for the next release of Xerte. >>>> >>>> Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or >>>> would you prefer to do that Tom? >>>> >>>> I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd >>>> files to identify those which only belong to Xerte and not >>>> XOT (the indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There is also the >>>> issue of what to do with the files that belong in XOT but >>>> not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). >>>> >>>> I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of >>>> these pages >>>> >>>> restrict="d" // desktop >>>> restrict="t" // toolkits >>>> >>>> if that would meet your requirements. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, >>>> because they don't work anymore (the google API is not >>>> working anymore, it has been changed into a paid service) >>>> >>>> So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, >>>> I think. >>>> >>>> Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>>> Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files >>>>> locally, this does not need to prevent the generation >>>>> of a new data.xwd file as there have been no changes >>>>> to the two youtube pages xwd files. >>>>> >>>>> Which set of xwd files are being used to build the >>>>> data.xwd file? >>>>> >>>>> The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / >>>>> pageWizards section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm >>>>> / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / translation.xwd >>>>> The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke >>>>> the rule of having the same name for the rlm file and >>>>> xwd file as was used in the name property for the rlm. >>>>> The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is >>>>> why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called >>>>> xerteModel. >>>>> >>>>> The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the >>>>> pageWizards section of the xerte svn as the >>>>> translation page was being dropped due to problems >>>>> with the Google translation service. >>>>> >>>>> However both these pages may be needed in XOT for >>>>> backward compatibility. >>>>> >>>>> I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and >>>>> enhanced to the XOT repository but some of the model >>>>> files will require a rebuild of the data.xwd file. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan >>>>> >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have now committed to the Page Wizards section >>>>> of the Xerte svn updates to all the Connector >>>>> pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. >>>>> >>>>> I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set >>>>> up the new youTube individual pages and I have not >>>>> had time to check which version is in the svn of >>>>> these pages. >>>>> >>>>> The new updated models for the Connector pages >>>>> have some differences in none - optional >>>>> properties so will not be directly compatible with >>>>> existing Connector pages. This should not affect >>>>> the Inventory or Quiz pages. >>>>> >>>>> As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to >>>>> make the models conform to the new format I will >>>>> then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated pages >>>>> can be tried out in the XOT beta. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely >>>>> for the addressee and may contain confidential >>>>> information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately >>>>> delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>> information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu May 3 21:39:59 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 21:39:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> Message-ID: Thanks for the update. With respect to the XOT repository it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT repository with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository cMcq.rlm connectorHotspotImage.rlm connectorMenu.rlm connectorPlainText.rlm cRedirector.rlm cTabNav.rlm inventory.rlm quiz.rlm scenario.rlm youtube.rlm youtuberss.rlm the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you are concerned re-svn histories? Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository > Updated build script to obey restrict > rebuilt xerte-beta.exe > > > Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. > > Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the > Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed > into the PageWizards section of the svn. > > I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned > flash player permissions. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", >> restrict="template" >> >> Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> >> Yes, that would be fine... >> >> basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. >> The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of >> the generated template.xwd) >> >> Tom >> >> Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but >> it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it >> generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in >> newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the >> restrict property in the > >> e.g.s >> >> > menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" >> restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd >> >> // example for indexChanger.xwd >> >> Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte >> and XOT >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> >>> Yes, the restrict would be perfect. >>> >>> I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose >>> all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> >>> Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be >>> included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that >>> contain it from breaking? >>> >>> I have been checking over earlier discussions. >>> >>> My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte >>> model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. >>> >>> I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards >>> section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, >>> which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make >>> sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for >>> the next release of Xerte. >>> >>> Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you >>> prefer to do that Tom? >>> >>> I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to >>> identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger >>> page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that >>> belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). >>> >>> I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages >>> >>> restrict="d" // desktop >>> restrict="t" // toolkits >>> >>> if that would meet your requirements. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> >>>> The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they >>>> don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been >>>> changed into a paid service) >>>> >>>> So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. >>>> >>>> Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>> >>>> Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this >>>> does not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there >>>> have been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. >>>> >>>> Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? >>>> >>>> The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards >>>> section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / >>>> translation.xwd >>>> The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of >>>> having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name >>>> property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is >>>> why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. >>>> >>>> The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards >>>> section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to >>>> problems with the Google translation service. >>>> >>>> However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward >>>> compatibility. >>>> >>>> I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the >>>> XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the >>>> data.xwd file. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn >>>>> updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. >>>>> >>>>> I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube >>>>> individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the >>>>> svn of these pages. >>>>> >>>>> The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences >>>>> in none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with >>>>> existing Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz >>>>> pages. >>>>> >>>>> As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models >>>>> conform to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated >>>>> pages can be tried out in the XOT beta. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received >>>> this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>>> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >>>> message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. 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Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > Thanks for the update. > > With respect to the XOT repository > it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the > XOT repository > with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository > > cMcq.rlm > connectorHotspotImage.rlm > connectorMenu.rlm > connectorPlainText.rlm > cRedirector.rlm > cTabNav.rlm > inventory.rlm > quiz.rlm > scenario.rlm > youtube.rlm > youtuberss.rlm > > the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the > template.xwd file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. > > Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the > appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as > you are concerned re-svn histories? > > Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository > Updated build script to obey restrict > rebuilt xerte-beta.exe > > > Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. >> >> Everything I have been working on recently with respect to >> enhancing the Connector pages and removing instances of "Display >> Text" is now committed into the PageWizards section of the svn. >> >> I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those >> damned flash player permissions. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders > > wrote: >> >> perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", >> restrict="template" >> >> Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>> Yes, that would be fine... >>> >>> basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to >>> change that. The exception is hard coded anyway, like >>> template.xwd. (It is the basis of the generated template.xwd) >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>> I had originally thought to put the restrict in the >>>> newNodes section but it occurs to me you are only >>>> interested in the xwd not the xml it generates. Further the >>>> basic.xwd file does not have any entries in newNodes. So >>>> would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the >>>> restrict property in the >>> >>>> e.g.s >>>> >>>> >>> menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" >>>> restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd >>>> >>>> // example for >>>> indexChanger.xwd >>>> >>>> Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used >>>> by both Xerte and XOT >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, the restrict would be perfect. >>>> >>>> I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of >>>> delete/add, you would loose all history and I don't >>>> want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) >>>> >>>> Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>>> Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it >>>>> still need to be included in the XOT release if only >>>>> to prevent existing projects that contain it from >>>>> breaking? >>>>> >>>>> I have been checking over earlier discussions. >>>>> >>>>> My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get >>>>> all the xerte model and xwd files in the >>>>> runtime/pages/ section of the svn. >>>>> >>>>> I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime >>>>> and pagewizards section and the few updates had all >>>>> taken place in the pageWizards section, which is why I >>>>> updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would >>>>> make sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set >>>>> up as THE location for the next release of Xerte. >>>>> >>>>> Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly >>>>> or would you prefer to do that Tom? >>>>> >>>>> I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the >>>>> xwd files to identify those which only belong to Xerte >>>>> and not XOT (the indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There >>>>> is also the issue of what to do with the files that >>>>> belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). >>>>> >>>>> I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of >>>>> these pages >>>>> >>>>> restrict="d" // desktop >>>>> restrict="t" // toolkits >>>>> >>>>> if that would meet your requirements. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The translation page has been dropped from xot as >>>>> well, because they don't work anymore (the google >>>>> API is not working anymore, it has been changed >>>>> into a paid service) >>>>> >>>>> So, for now, you should use the set of the >>>>> pageWizards, I think. >>>>> >>>>> Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>>>> Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube >>>>>> files locally, this does not need to prevent the >>>>>> generation of a new data.xwd file as there have >>>>>> been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. >>>>>> >>>>>> Which set of xwd files are being used to build >>>>>> the data.xwd file? >>>>>> >>>>>> The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn >>>>>> / pageWizards section do not contain the pages >>>>>> xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / >>>>>> translation.xwd >>>>>> The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it >>>>>> broke the rule of having the same name for the >>>>>> rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name >>>>>> property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but >>>>>> the file is xerte. This is why the pageWizard >>>>>> folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. >>>>>> >>>>>> The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing >>>>>> from the pageWizards section of the xerte svn as >>>>>> the translation page was being dropped due to >>>>>> problems with the Google translation service. >>>>>> >>>>>> However both these pages may be needed in XOT for >>>>>> backward compatibility. >>>>>> >>>>>> I want to upload the pages that I have corrected >>>>>> and enhanced to the XOT repository but some of >>>>>> the model files will require a rebuild of the >>>>>> data.xwd file. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Johnathan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan >>>>>> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have now committed to the Page Wizards >>>>>> section of the Xerte svn updates to all the >>>>>> Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to >>>>>> set up the new youTube individual pages and I >>>>>> have not had time to check which version is >>>>>> in the svn of these pages. >>>>>> >>>>>> The new updated models for the Connector >>>>>> pages have some differences in none - >>>>>> optional properties so will not be directly >>>>>> compatible with existing Connector pages. >>>>>> This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz >>>>>> pages. >>>>>> >>>>>> As soon as I can update the new your tube >>>>>> pages to make the models conform to the new >>>>>> format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that >>>>>> the updated pages can be tried out in the XOT >>>>>> beta. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Johnathan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended >>>>>> solely for the addressee and may contain >>>>>> confidential information. If you have received >>>>>> this message in error, please send it back to me, >>>>>> and immediately delete it. Please do not use, >>>>>> copy or disclose the information contained in >>>>>> this message or in any attachment. Any views or >>>>>> opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the >>>>>> University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the >>>>>> contents of an attachment may still contain >>>>>> software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>> system: you are advised to perform your own >>>>>> checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 08:44:41 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 08:44:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in standalone Xerte after being exported... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: > i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I will, but they are really simple. >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>> might have hungry regexs? >>> >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>> wrote: >>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>> >>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>> >>>> >>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>> >>>> David. >>>> >>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 08:56:27 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 08:56:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012f01cd26eb$afde6490$0f9b2db0$@co.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> In the root. Media viewer should export if the media attribute is set on the LO tag. Fay can confirm this - we haven't used it yet, but it's to allow a global piece of media to be associated with a piece, as you could in media Interactions. The media opens in a separate window, and a global button pops the window open. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 11:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code Actual question on the export code... If jmol and/or mastraction is used, where do they have to end up in the zip file? Complete jmol tree and/or mapstraction in jmol cq. mapstraction folder? Any others? mediaViewer? Or is that only used during authoring. Op 2-5-2012 12:02, Ron Mitchell schreef: > agreed but... > > Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading rather > than installing from scratch which previously has only required replacing > files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code > > But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit > config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. > That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. > > I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should be. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code > > > On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: > >> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration >> config needs to be changed to require? e.g. >> >> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >> require_once($row['integration_config_path']); >> } >> >> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >> require($row['integration_config_path']); >> } >> > > > No. > > require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen more > than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. > > >> If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in >> using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing > anyway? > > > > But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit > config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. > That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. > > David. > > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 09:00:01 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:00:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page In-Reply-To: <003301cd2870$54e22f50$fea68df0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA49D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004f01cd2786$e9b497c0$bd1dc740$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA51D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007601cd278f$0ee2bec0$2ca83c40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA581@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a401cd2793$cf9de640$6ed9b2c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5B8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c801cd2796$e4ca1900$ae5e4b00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fb01cd2799$0e411c00$2ac35400$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012d01cd279c$f4176dd0$dc464970$@co.uk> <003f01cd2838$d51b2ce0$7f5186a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA979@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009a01cd2849$1cbf86d0$563e9470$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA8F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bc01cd284e$a057c840$e10758c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA BC2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010801cd2865$4a0ee330$de2ca990$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAC42@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003301cd2870$54e22f50$fea68df0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89D8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip() delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar; doesn't resolve the problem - doesn't do anything. You gave the icon an ID? Set it to 1 for now then. I'll investigate. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 15:32 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok possibly getting closer... with the .rlt open and hitting play... with scrolling off - problem gone with scrolling 1 - problem gone with scrolling auto - problem exists! Adding a script icon on it's own or attached to a button after feedText in the rlm and adding feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip() delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar; doesn't resolve the problem - doesn't do anything. BTW now that the selected video pops up in a new window would it be better to set the height of the instruction text box to something like 470? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 14:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Can you try a couple of things... - turn scrolling off (delete the property) on the feedText icon in youtuberss.rlm ? //if the icon is screwing this up, this should stop any scrolling at all - put it back on, turn it to 1? //this will add scroll bars whatever the size of the feed text is returned, just curious if it makes any odds. If those fail we need to debug it from within the engine and see what's going on: I want to know if it's getting added twice (which I don't think it is). You could try customising the page and adding abutton to the youtuberss.rlm file so you could do things like: //try and kill it... feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip() delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar; //then try this on another button and see if it puts it back properly. If we can tie it down to the scroller in the text icon that would be a start. feedTextIcon.enableScroll(true); Does it happen on any other scrollable text fields? Maybe create one somewhere and see if that also screws up? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 14:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just updated the engine, cleared cache in both IE and Safari but same problem exists. Presumably you've seen the posts to the xerteforteachers list confirming that others get this too? My Flash player = 11.2.202.233 Reported by Adam on teachers list Windows 7 Chrome Flash: 11.2.202.235 Reported by Shirley on teachers list Yes I see it in IE 8 and in FF 8.0.1 I get a blank page, cannot see videos at all. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 13:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page This has got to be an engine problem: it looks like the Flash Component that provides scrolling, but before it's been properly initialised and moved / sized to the right place. What version of the flash player have you got? Have you got the latest engine on the web site? I just committed a latest one to the root of the toolkits svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 11:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no difference. Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8, Safari, Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also although I was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who raised the issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody else on this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but let's open this out - I'll send the link to the other lists http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 11:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ahh. Maybe it's the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of the YT pages. Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 10:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta install... If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I don't get the rogue scroller. If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the rogue scroller. However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this but does this point to a possible cause solution? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 May 2012 09:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Do you get it in standalone xerte? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar on that in any of the browsers. So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the problem. I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so it's not that. I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others here on this list could test and confirm either way? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page XP. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No I'm not: [cid:image001.png at 01CD29D4.4A2B2700] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome [cid:image002.jpg at 01CD29D4.4A2B2700] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page I aint seein' no scrollbar. This some third party thing you guys have installed? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Have uploaded. P60 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9 too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it...) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and Safari I can resize the pop-up. Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and view full screen are available. How will the feed page work? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in the XOT svn now as well. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page Hi Julian did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff finished. If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but I'll wait for any comments first. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14061 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 4 09:00:28 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 10:00:28 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FA38C9C.9080107@tor.nl> I'll try to create a sample, and will make it happen... ;-). Shouldn't be too difficult. Just another small helper routine in the XerteXMLInspector. (the small php class I created to see what models are used) Op 4-5-2012 9:56, Julian Tenney schreef: > In the root. > Media viewer should export if the media attribute is set on the LO tag. Fay can confirm this - we haven't used it yet, but it's to allow a global piece of media to be associated with a piece, as you could in media Interactions. The media opens in a separate window, and a global button pops the window open. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 03 May 2012 11:41 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code > > Actual question on the export code... > > If jmol and/or mastraction is used, where do they have to end up in the > zip file? > > Complete jmol tree and/or mapstraction in jmol cq. mapstraction folder? > > Any others? mediaViewer? Or is that only used during authoring. > > Op 2-5-2012 12:02, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> agreed but... >> >> Existing owners of installations will also need a way of upgrading rather >> than installing from scratch which previously has only required replacing >> files. So we'll also need a solution for this scenario too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:46 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >> >> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit >> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. >> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >> >> I also tend to think anything that can be done through setup should be. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin >> Sent: 02 May 2012 10:28 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code >> >> >> On 2 May 2012, at 10:09, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >>> Could it be that inside xot config.php require_once fo the integration >>> config needs to be changed to require? e.g. >>> >>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>> require_once($row['integration_config_path']); >>> } >>> >>> if ($row['integration_config_path'] != "") { >>> require($row['integration_config_path']); >>> } >>> >> >> No. >> >> require_once is identical to require, it's just that it can't happen more >> than once within the page request/execution. this is a good thing. >> >> >>> If that is the case the question still arises is there any benefit in >>> using the database for this given that xot config.php needs editing >> anyway? >> >> >> >> But if we pulled our fingers out a little, there would be no need to edit >> config.php - it could all be configured in /setup at installation time. >> That's why I don't want it to be necessary to edit config.php. >> >> David. >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 4 08:54:58 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 09:54:58 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham .ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> That is correct, We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should always contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment export, that only exports what's needed. Scorm will always be a deployment export. Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and the 'normal' zip export? Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: > The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in standalone Xerte after being exported... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > Fixes and additions for export > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the > /language folder > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if > those models are used > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm > in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted > thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a > password in the database... ;-) > > Tom > > Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. >> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> I will, but they are really simple. >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>> >>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>> >>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>> >>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. 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Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 4 09:22:15 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 10:22:15 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code - Media Viewer In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FA391B7.3070605@tor.nl> Fay, Can you help me? See this excerpt from Julian on whether the Media Viewer should be exported or not: Media viewer should export if the media attribute is set on the LO tag. Fay can confirm this - we haven't used it yet, but it's to allow a global piece of media to be associated with a piece, as you could in media Interactions. The media opens in a separate window, and a global button pops the window open. How does this work? What attribute is added? Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 09:45:57 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:45:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code - Media Viewer In-Reply-To: <4FA391B7.3070605@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013b01cd26f6$2baef8f0$830cead0$@co.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA391B7.3070605@tor.nl> Message-ID: This is how it should work... On the learning object you add the Media File optional property and upload a audio or video file. You can also add a media image (to go with audio files only) and media transcript. There's a sample transcript file you can use in the svn at mediaViewer/ sampleTranscript.xml Then when previewing the project you will then see a new button on the control bar. Click this and a new window will open showing the media with any captions you added with the transcript. However, just looking at the test installation the options aren't showing up in the menu. I don't really get why as if I look in the toolkits svn the xwd has the properties in it and if I run it in xampp they show up and it works. Is the test installation running up to date files? I haven't just added the media bits in though so not sure why they would be there now and not in the test version. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 04 May 2012 09:22 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code - Media Viewer Fay, Can you help me? See this excerpt from Julian on whether the Media Viewer should be exported or not: Media viewer should export if the media attribute is set on the LO tag. Fay can confirm this - we haven't used it yet, but it's to allow a global piece of media to be associated with a piece, as you could in media Interactions. The media opens in a separate window, and a global button pops the window open. How does this work? What attribute is added? Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 4 09:55:34 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 10:55:34 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code - Media Viewer In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA391B7.3070605@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FA39986.1050308@tor.nl> Thank you! Op 4-5-2012 10:45, Fay Cross schreef: > This is how it should work... > > On the learning object you add the Media File optional property and upload a audio or video file. You can also add a media image (to go with audio files only) and media transcript. There's a sample transcript file you can use in the svn at mediaViewer/ sampleTranscript.xml > > Then when previewing the project you will then see a new button on the control bar. Click this and a new window will open showing the media with any captions you added with the transcript. > > However, just looking at the test installation the options aren't showing up in the menu. I don't really get why as if I look in the toolkits svn the xwd has the properties in it and if I run it in xampp they show up and it works. Is the test installation running up to date files? I haven't just added the media bits in though so not sure why they would be there now and not in the test version. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 04 May 2012 09:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code - Media Viewer > > Fay, > > Can you help me? See this excerpt from Julian on whether the Media > Viewer should be exported or not: > > Media viewer should export if the media attribute is set on the LO tag. Fay can confirm this - we haven't used it yet, but it's to allow a global piece of media to be associated with a piece, as you could in media Interactions. The media opens in a separate window, and a global button pops the window open. > > > How does this work? What attribute is added? > > Tom > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 09:58:33 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:58:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code - Media Viewer In-Reply-To: <4FA39986.1050308@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA391B7.3070605@tor.nl> <4FA39986.1050308@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A60@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Probably because they aren't in basic.xwd which contains the LO node info. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 04 May 2012 09:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code - Media Viewer Thank you! Op 4-5-2012 10:45, Fay Cross schreef: > This is how it should work... > > On the learning object you add the Media File optional property and upload a audio or video file. You can also add a media image (to go with audio files only) and media transcript. There's a sample transcript file you can use in the svn at mediaViewer/ sampleTranscript.xml > > Then when previewing the project you will then see a new button on the control bar. Click this and a new window will open showing the media with any captions you added with the transcript. > > However, just looking at the test installation the options aren't showing up in the menu. I don't really get why as if I look in the toolkits svn the xwd has the properties in it and if I run it in xampp they show up and it works. Is the test installation running up to date files? I haven't just added the media bits in though so not sure why they would be there now and not in the test version. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 04 May 2012 09:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code - Media Viewer > > Fay, > > Can you help me? See this excerpt from Julian on whether the Media > Viewer should be exported or not: > > Media viewer should export if the media attribute is set on the LO tag. Fay can confirm this - we haven't used it yet, but it's to allow a global piece of media to be associated with a piece, as you could in media Interactions. The media opens in a separate window, and a global button pops the window open. > > > How does this work? What attribute is added? > > Tom > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 10:04:23 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:04:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code - Media Viewer In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A60@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F9ED8C6.8040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AA3A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <002401cd277d$6a d 3c0b0$407b4210$@co.uk> <00b101cd278b$b0632f40$11298dc0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <48207472-FFBC-4ED1-912D-527D9420F727@palepurple.co.uk> <01ed01cd27dc$22a1cd50$67e567f0$@co.uk> <006601cd283d$8f129c10$ad37d430$@co.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA391B7.3070605@tor.nl> <4FA39986.1050308@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A60@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: They are in en-GB/basic.xwd but not in nl-nl/basic.xwd or baselines/basic.xwd I'll copy them over into these files now. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code - Media Viewer Probably because they aren't in basic.xwd which contains the LO node info. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 04 May 2012 09:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code - Media Viewer Thank you! Op 4-5-2012 10:45, Fay Cross schreef: > This is how it should work... > > On the learning object you add the Media File optional property and upload a audio or video file. You can also add a media image (to go with audio files only) and media transcript. There's a sample transcript file you can use in the svn at mediaViewer/ sampleTranscript.xml > > Then when previewing the project you will then see a new button on the control bar. Click this and a new window will open showing the media with any captions you added with the transcript. > > However, just looking at the test installation the options aren't showing up in the menu. I don't really get why as if I look in the toolkits svn the xwd has the properties in it and if I run it in xampp they show up and it works. Is the test installation running up to date files? I haven't just added the media bits in though so not sure why they would be there now and not in the test version. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 04 May 2012 09:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code - Media Viewer > > Fay, > > Can you help me? See this excerpt from Julian on whether the Media > Viewer should be exported or not: > > Media viewer should export if the media attribute is set on the LO tag. Fay can confirm this - we haven't used it yet, but it's to allow a global piece of media to be associated with a piece, as you could in media Interactions. The media opens in a separate window, and a global button pops the window open. > > > How does this work? What attribute is added? > > Tom > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 4 09:58:15 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:58:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> Message-ID: Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made full urls (i think) it was a request from someone at Nottingham On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > That is correct, > > We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should always > contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment > export, that only exports what's needed. > > Scorm will always be a deployment export. > > Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and the > 'normal' zip export? > > > > Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: > >> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >> standalone Xerte after being exported... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> I just committed an update to the export code: >> >> Fixes and additions for export >> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >> /language folder >> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >> those models are used >> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm >> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >> >> >> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >> >> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >> password in the database... ;-) >> >> Tom >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> >>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >>> conflict. >>> >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders ? wrote: >>>> >>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>> >>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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Email communications with >>>>> the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 10:25:09 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:25:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made full urls (i think) it was a request from someone at Nottingham On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > That is correct, > > We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should always > contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment > export, that only exports what's needed. > > Scorm will always be a deployment export. > > Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and the > 'normal' zip export? > > > > Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: > >> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >> standalone Xerte after being exported... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> I just committed an update to the export code: >> >> Fixes and additions for export >> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >> /language folder >> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >> those models are used >> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm >> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >> >> >> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >> >> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >> password in the database... ;-) >> >> Tom >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> >>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >>> conflict. >>> >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders ? wrote: >>>> >>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>> >>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>>>> message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please >>>>>> do not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>> any >>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>>> email do >>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment >>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>> the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>> legislatio >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>> and >>>>> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with >>>>> the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 4 10:28:37 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:28:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: i don't want to name who it was but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made > full urls (i think) > > it was a request from someone at Nottingham > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> That is correct, >> >> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should always >> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment >> export, that only exports what's needed. >> >> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >> >> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and the >> 'normal' zip export? >> >> >> >> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>> >>> Fixes and additions for export >>> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>> /language folder >>> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >>> those models are used >>> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm >>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>> >>> >>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >>> >>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>> password in the database... ;-) >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> >>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >>>> conflict. >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders ? wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>> >>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>>>>> message in >>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please >>>>>>> do not >>>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>>>> email do >>>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>> system: >>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>>> legislatio >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with >>>>>> the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 10:35:30 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:35:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> What was the reason? Can you remember? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) i don't want to name who it was but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made > full urls (i think) > > it was a request from someone at Nottingham > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> That is correct, >> >> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should always >> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment >> export, that only exports what's needed. >> >> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >> >> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and the >> 'normal' zip export? >> >> >> >> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>> >>> Fixes and additions for export >>> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>> /language folder >>> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >>> those models are used >>> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm >>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>> >>> >>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >>> >>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>> password in the database... ;-) >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> >>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >>>> conflict. >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders ? wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>> >>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>>>>> message in >>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please >>>>>>> do not >>>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>>>> email do >>>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>> system: >>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>>> legislatio >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>> in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please >>>>>> do not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>> any >>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>>> email do >>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment >>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>> the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>> system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 4 10:46:46 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:46:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export projects with media in, to run on CDs or something On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > What was the reason? Can you remember? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > i don't want to name who it was > > but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made >> full urls (i think) >> >> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> That is correct, >>> >>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should always >>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment >>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>> >>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>> >>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and the >>> 'normal' zip export? >>> >>> >>> >>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> >>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>> >>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>> >>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>> /language folder >>>> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >>>> those models are used >>>> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm >>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>> >>>> >>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >>>> >>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >>>>> conflict. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders ? wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 10:47:20 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:47:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export projects with media in, to run on CDs or something On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > What was the reason? Can you remember? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > i don't want to name who it was > > but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made >> full urls (i think) >> >> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> That is correct, >>> >>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should always >>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment >>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>> >>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>> >>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and the >>> 'normal' zip export? >>> >>> >>> >>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> >>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>> >>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>> >>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>> /language folder >>>> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >>>> those models are used >>>> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm >>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>> >>>> >>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >>>> >>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >>>>> conflict. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders ? wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>>>>>> message in >>>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please >>>>>>>> do not >>>>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>>>>> email do >>>>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>>> system: >>>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 4 10:49:26 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:49:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export > projects with media in, to run on CDs or something > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> What was the reason? Can you remember? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> i don't want to name who it was >> >> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made >>> full urls (i think) >>> >>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> That is correct, >>>> >>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should always >>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment >>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>> >>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>> >>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and the >>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> >>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>> >>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>> >>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>> /language folder >>>>> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >>>>> those models are used >>>>> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm >>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >>>>> >>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >>>>>> conflict. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders ? wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 4 13:01:29 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 14:01:29 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local export is also a variant of deployment. Tom Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: > i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> i don't want to name who it was >>> >>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>> >>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made >>>> full urls (i think) >>>> >>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> That is correct, >>>>> >>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should always >>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment >>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>> >>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>> >>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and the >>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> >>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>> >>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>> >>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>> /language folder >>>>>> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >>>>>> those models are used >>>>>> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm >>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >>>>>> >>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 4 13:18:53 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 13:18:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> Message-ID: It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local export > is also a variant of deployment. > > Tom > > Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >> ?wrote: >>> >>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>> ?wrote: >>>> >>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>> >>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>> >>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>> >>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made >>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>> >>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>> >>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>> always >>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment >>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>> the >>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>> well... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one >>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm >>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David >>>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 13:19:23 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 13:19:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, this is time for the FWS test. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local export > is also a variant of deployment. > > Tom > > Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> >>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>> >>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>> >>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>> >>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made >>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>> >>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>> >>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>> always >>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment >>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>> the >>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>> well... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one >>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm >>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David >>>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 4 13:21:08 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 13:21:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Or Maybe we drop export as the tab name 1 Tab is called Export (Scorm + Scorm metadata) 1 Tab is download (for deployment, locally, to work locally) On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Yes, this is time for the FWS test. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local export >> is also a variant of deployment. >> >> Tom >> >> Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> >>> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >>> ?wrote: >>>> >>>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>> >>>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>> >>>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>>> >>>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>> >>>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made >>>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>>> >>>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>>> always >>>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment >>>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>>> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>>> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>>> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >>>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>>> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>>> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>>> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>>> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>>> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>>> well... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>>>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one >>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm >>>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David >>>>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 4 13:29:55 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 14:29:55 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FA3CBC3.4080509@tor.nl> I solved this in the Dutch translation by doing something like: Export. There are 5 ways to export a Xerte LO, and than enumerating the 5 ways, with a rationale for this way of Export. Seems straightforward enough. With this one, there will be 6 in total: 1. Full export for further development in Xerte and/or Archiving purposes, will also include all imported media. 2. Deployment export 3. Local Deployment export 4. SCORM 1.2 5. SCORM 1.2 with extra metadata 6. SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. We could decide to drop 4 in favour of 5. (or v.v.) Furthermore, if we agree this is a good idea, I can start implementing export.php and we can see how we will fit this in user interface later. Tom Op 4-5-2012 14:21, Pat Lockley schreef: > Or > > Maybe we drop export as the tab name > > 1 Tab is called Export (Scorm + Scorm metadata) > > 1 Tab is download (for deployment, locally, to work locally) > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Yes, this is time for the FWS test. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local export >>> is also a variant of deployment. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>> >>>>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>>>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>> >>>>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>>>> >>>>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are made >>>>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a deployment >>>>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>>>> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>>>> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>>>> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if >>>>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>>>> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>>>> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>>>> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>>>> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>>>> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>>>> well... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>>>>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one >>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm >>>>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David >>>>>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 4 13:48:00 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 13:48:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FA3CBC3.4080509@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3CBC3.4080509@tor.nl> Message-ID: 5 beats 4 Have we called on php 5.2 yet - as we could add the title of the LO into 5 For FWS - do we not need a "download a copy to work locally" option? On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I solved this in the Dutch translation by doing something like: > > Export. > > There are 5 ways to export a Xerte LO, and than enumerating the 5 ways, with > a rationale for this way of Export. > > Seems straightforward enough. > > With this one, there will be 6 in total: > > 1. Full export for further development in Xerte and/or Archiving purposes, > will also include all imported media. > 2. Deployment export > 3. Local Deployment export > 4. SCORM 1.2 > 5. SCORM 1.2 with extra metadata > 6. SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. > > We could decide to drop 4 in favour of 5. (or v.v.) > > Furthermore, if we agree this is a good idea, I can start implementing > export.php and ?we can see how we will fit this in user interface later. > > Tom > > Op 4-5-2012 14:21, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> Or >> >> Maybe we drop export as the tab name >> >> 1 Tab is called Export (Scorm + Scorm metadata) >> >> 1 Tab is download (for deployment, locally, to work locally) >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney >> ?wrote: >>> >>> Yes, this is time for the FWS test. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>> >>>> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local >>>> export >>>> is also a variant of deployment. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>> Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>> >>>>>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>>>>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are >>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a >>>>>>>>> deployment >>>>>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>>>>> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>>>>> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>>>>> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only >>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>>>>> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>>>>> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>>>>> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>>>>> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>>>>> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>>>>> well... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to >>>>>>>>>> set a >>>>>>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one >>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm >>>>>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David >>>>>>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 14:18:49 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 14:18:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3CBC3.4080509@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8C66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> My feeling was 5.2 will be OK. What does 'download a copy to work locally' mean? (I know what it means, but does a user?) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 04 May 2012 13:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) 5 beats 4 Have we called on php 5.2 yet - as we could add the title of the LO into 5 For FWS - do we not need a "download a copy to work locally" option? On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I solved this in the Dutch translation by doing something like: > > Export. > > There are 5 ways to export a Xerte LO, and than enumerating the 5 ways, with > a rationale for this way of Export. > > Seems straightforward enough. > > With this one, there will be 6 in total: > > 1. Full export for further development in Xerte and/or Archiving purposes, > will also include all imported media. > 2. Deployment export > 3. Local Deployment export > 4. SCORM 1.2 > 5. SCORM 1.2 with extra metadata > 6. SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. > > We could decide to drop 4 in favour of 5. (or v.v.) > > Furthermore, if we agree this is a good idea, I can start implementing > export.php and we can see how we will fit this in user interface later. > > Tom > > Op 4-5-2012 14:21, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> Or >> >> Maybe we drop export as the tab name >> >> 1 Tab is called Export (Scorm + Scorm metadata) >> >> 1 Tab is download (for deployment, locally, to work locally) >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, this is time for the FWS test. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> >>>> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local >>>> export >>>> is also a variant of deployment. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>> Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>> >>>>>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>>>>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are >>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a >>>>>>>>> deployment >>>>>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>>>>> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>>>>> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>>>>> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only >>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>>>>> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>>>>> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>>>>> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>>>>> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>>>>> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>>>>> well... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to >>>>>>>>>> set a >>>>>>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one >>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm >>>>>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David >>>>>>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with >>>>> the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 4 14:25:50 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 14:25:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8C66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3CBC3.4080509@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8C66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: No, but i didn't think we'd explicitly made it available as an option I think To work locally select "export as scorm" seems a bit erm, really? On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > My feeling was 5.2 will be OK. > > What does 'download a copy to work locally' mean? > > (I know what it means, but does a user?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 13:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > 5 beats 4 > > Have we called on php 5.2 yet - as we could add the title of the LO into 5 > > For FWS - do we not need a "download a copy to work locally" option? > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I solved this in the Dutch translation by doing something like: >> >> Export. >> >> There are 5 ways to export a Xerte LO, and than enumerating the 5 ways, with >> a rationale for this way of Export. >> >> Seems straightforward enough. >> >> With this one, there will be 6 in total: >> >> 1. Full export for further development in Xerte and/or Archiving purposes, >> will also include all imported media. >> 2. Deployment export >> 3. Local Deployment export >> 4. SCORM 1.2 >> 5. SCORM 1.2 with extra metadata >> 6. SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. >> >> We could decide to drop 4 in favour of 5. (or v.v.) >> >> Furthermore, if we agree this is a good idea, I can start implementing >> export.php and ?we can see how we will fit this in user interface later. >> >> Tom >> >> Op 4-5-2012 14:21, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >>> Or >>> >>> Maybe we drop export as the tab name >>> >>> 1 Tab is called Export (Scorm + Scorm metadata) >>> >>> 1 Tab is download (for deployment, locally, to work locally) >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney >>> ?wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, this is time for the FWS test. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>> >>>> It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local >>>>> export >>>>> is also a variant of deployment. >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>>>>>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are >>>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a >>>>>>>>>> deployment >>>>>>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only >>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>>>>>> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>>>>>> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>>>>>> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>>>>>> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>>>>>> well... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>>>>>> thos as well. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 14:52:02 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 14:52:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3CBC3.4080509@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8C66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8CA0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, but people looking for a scorm export will know they want a scorm export because their VLE says 'import scorm package'. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 04 May 2012 14:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, but i didn't think we'd explicitly made it available as an option I think To work locally select "export as scorm" seems a bit erm, really? On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > My feeling was 5.2 will be OK. > > What does 'download a copy to work locally' mean? > > (I know what it means, but does a user?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 13:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > 5 beats 4 > > Have we called on php 5.2 yet - as we could add the title of the LO into 5 > > For FWS - do we not need a "download a copy to work locally" option? > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I solved this in the Dutch translation by doing something like: >> >> Export. >> >> There are 5 ways to export a Xerte LO, and than enumerating the 5 ways, with >> a rationale for this way of Export. >> >> Seems straightforward enough. >> >> With this one, there will be 6 in total: >> >> 1. Full export for further development in Xerte and/or Archiving purposes, >> will also include all imported media. >> 2. Deployment export >> 3. Local Deployment export >> 4. SCORM 1.2 >> 5. SCORM 1.2 with extra metadata >> 6. SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. >> >> We could decide to drop 4 in favour of 5. (or v.v.) >> >> Furthermore, if we agree this is a good idea, I can start implementing >> export.php and we can see how we will fit this in user interface later. >> >> Tom >> >> Op 4-5-2012 14:21, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >>> Or >>> >>> Maybe we drop export as the tab name >>> >>> 1 Tab is called Export (Scorm + Scorm metadata) >>> >>> 1 Tab is download (for deployment, locally, to work locally) >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, this is time for the FWS test. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>> >>>> It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> >>>>> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local >>>>> export >>>>> is also a variant of deployment. >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>>>>>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are >>>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a >>>>>>>>>> deployment >>>>>>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>>>>>> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>>>>>> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>>>>>> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only >>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>>>>>> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>>>>>> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>>>>>> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>>>>>> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>>>>>> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>>>>>> well... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to >>>>>>>>>>> set a >>>>>>>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one >>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 4 15:07:56 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 15:07:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8CA0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3CBC3.4080509@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8C66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8CA0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: i'm not either / or ing - just a download local option would help On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Yes, but people looking for a scorm export will know they want a scorm export because their VLE says 'import scorm package'. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 14:26 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > No, but i didn't think we'd explicitly made it available as an option > > I think > > To work locally select "export as scorm" seems a bit erm, really? > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> My feeling was 5.2 will be OK. >> >> What does 'download a copy to work locally' mean? >> >> (I know what it means, but does a user?) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:48 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> 5 beats 4 >> >> Have we called on php 5.2 yet - as we could add the title of the LO into 5 >> >> For FWS - do we not need a "download a copy to work locally" option? >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> I solved this in the Dutch translation by doing something like: >>> >>> Export. >>> >>> There are 5 ways to export a Xerte LO, and than enumerating the 5 ways, with >>> a rationale for this way of Export. >>> >>> Seems straightforward enough. >>> >>> With this one, there will be 6 in total: >>> >>> 1. Full export for further development in Xerte and/or Archiving purposes, >>> will also include all imported media. >>> 2. Deployment export >>> 3. Local Deployment export >>> 4. SCORM 1.2 >>> 5. SCORM 1.2 with extra metadata >>> 6. SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. >>> >>> We could decide to drop 4 in favour of 5. (or v.v.) >>> >>> Furthermore, if we agree this is a good idea, I can start implementing >>> export.php and ?we can see how we will fit this in user interface later. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 4-5-2012 14:21, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> >>>> Or >>>> >>>> Maybe we drop export as the tab name >>>> >>>> 1 Tab is called Export (Scorm + Scorm metadata) >>>> >>>> 1 Tab is download (for deployment, locally, to work locally) >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, this is time for the FWS test. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>> >>>>> It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local >>>>>> export >>>>>> is also a variant of deployment. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>>>>>>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are >>>>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a >>>>>>>>>>> deployment >>>>>>>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only >>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>>>>>>> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>>>>>>> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>>>>>>> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>>>>>>> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>>>>>>> well... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to >>>>>>>>>>>> set a >>>>>>>>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one >>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 15:08:53 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 15:08:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3CBC3.4080509@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8C66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8CA0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8CC0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Ok. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 04 May 2012 15:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) i'm not either / or ing - just a download local option would help On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Yes, but people looking for a scorm export will know they want a scorm export because their VLE says 'import scorm package'. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 14:26 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > No, but i didn't think we'd explicitly made it available as an option > > I think > > To work locally select "export as scorm" seems a bit erm, really? > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> My feeling was 5.2 will be OK. >> >> What does 'download a copy to work locally' mean? >> >> (I know what it means, but does a user?) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:48 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> 5 beats 4 >> >> Have we called on php 5.2 yet - as we could add the title of the LO into 5 >> >> For FWS - do we not need a "download a copy to work locally" option? >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> I solved this in the Dutch translation by doing something like: >>> >>> Export. >>> >>> There are 5 ways to export a Xerte LO, and than enumerating the 5 ways, with >>> a rationale for this way of Export. >>> >>> Seems straightforward enough. >>> >>> With this one, there will be 6 in total: >>> >>> 1. Full export for further development in Xerte and/or Archiving purposes, >>> will also include all imported media. >>> 2. Deployment export >>> 3. Local Deployment export >>> 4. SCORM 1.2 >>> 5. SCORM 1.2 with extra metadata >>> 6. SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. >>> >>> We could decide to drop 4 in favour of 5. (or v.v.) >>> >>> Furthermore, if we agree this is a good idea, I can start implementing >>> export.php and we can see how we will fit this in user interface later. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 4-5-2012 14:21, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> >>>> Or >>>> >>>> Maybe we drop export as the tab name >>>> >>>> 1 Tab is called Export (Scorm + Scorm metadata) >>>> >>>> 1 Tab is download (for deployment, locally, to work locally) >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, this is time for the FWS test. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>> >>>>> It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local >>>>>> export >>>>>> is also a variant of deployment. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>>>>>>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are >>>>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a >>>>>>>>>>> deployment >>>>>>>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>>>>>>> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>>>>>>> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>>>>>>> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only >>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>>>>>>> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>>>>>>> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>>>>>>> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>>>>>>> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>>>>>>> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>>>>>>> well... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to >>>>>>>>>>>> set a >>>>>>>>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one >>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 4 15:23:41 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 15:23:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8CC0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3CBC3.4080509@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8C66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8CA0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8CC0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: but i think download is a handy tab option (it reads better than export) On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Ok. > > ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 15:08 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > i'm not either / or ing - just a download local option would help > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Yes, but people looking for a scorm export will know they want a scorm export because their VLE says 'import scorm package'. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 04 May 2012 14:26 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> No, but i didn't think we'd explicitly made it available as an option >> >> I think >> >> To work locally select "export as scorm" seems a bit erm, really? >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> My feeling was 5.2 will be OK. >>> >>> What does 'download a copy to work locally' mean? >>> >>> (I know what it means, but does a user?) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:48 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> 5 beats 4 >>> >>> Have we called on php 5.2 yet - as we could add the title of the LO into 5 >>> >>> For FWS - do we not need a "download a copy to work locally" option? >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I solved this in the Dutch translation by doing something like: >>>> >>>> Export. >>>> >>>> There are 5 ways to export a Xerte LO, and than enumerating the 5 ways, with >>>> a rationale for this way of Export. >>>> >>>> Seems straightforward enough. >>>> >>>> With this one, there will be 6 in total: >>>> >>>> 1. Full export for further development in Xerte and/or Archiving purposes, >>>> will also include all imported media. >>>> 2. Deployment export >>>> 3. Local Deployment export >>>> 4. SCORM 1.2 >>>> 5. SCORM 1.2 with extra metadata >>>> 6. SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. >>>> >>>> We could decide to drop 4 in favour of 5. (or v.v.) >>>> >>>> Furthermore, if we agree this is a good idea, I can start implementing >>>> export.php and ?we can see how we will fit this in user interface later. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 4-5-2012 14:21, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> >>>>> Or >>>>> >>>>> Maybe we drop export as the tab name >>>>> >>>>> 1 Tab is called Export (Scorm + Scorm metadata) >>>>> >>>>> 1 Tab is download (for deployment, locally, to work locally) >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, this is time for the FWS test. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>> >>>>>> It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local >>>>>>> export >>>>>>> is also a variant of deployment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>>>>>>>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are >>>>>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a >>>>>>>>>>>> deployment >>>>>>>>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>>>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only >>>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>>>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>>>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>>>>>>>> well... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>>>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to >>>>>>>>>>>>> set a >>>>>>>>>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one >>>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 4 15:24:14 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 15:24:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D89B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA38B52.7040401@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8A9D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ABF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8ACF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3C519.5070804@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8BF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA3CBC3.4080509@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8C66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8CA0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8CC0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D8CDF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 04 May 2012 15:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) but i think download is a handy tab option (it reads better than export) On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Ok. > > ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 04 May 2012 15:08 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > i'm not either / or ing - just a download local option would help > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Yes, but people looking for a scorm export will know they want a scorm export because their VLE says 'import scorm package'. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 04 May 2012 14:26 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> No, but i didn't think we'd explicitly made it available as an option >> >> I think >> >> To work locally select "export as scorm" seems a bit erm, really? >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> My feeling was 5.2 will be OK. >>> >>> What does 'download a copy to work locally' mean? >>> >>> (I know what it means, but does a user?) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:48 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> 5 beats 4 >>> >>> Have we called on php 5.2 yet - as we could add the title of the LO into 5 >>> >>> For FWS - do we not need a "download a copy to work locally" option? >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I solved this in the Dutch translation by doing something like: >>>> >>>> Export. >>>> >>>> There are 5 ways to export a Xerte LO, and than enumerating the 5 ways, with >>>> a rationale for this way of Export. >>>> >>>> Seems straightforward enough. >>>> >>>> With this one, there will be 6 in total: >>>> >>>> 1. Full export for further development in Xerte and/or Archiving purposes, >>>> will also include all imported media. >>>> 2. Deployment export >>>> 3. Local Deployment export >>>> 4. SCORM 1.2 >>>> 5. SCORM 1.2 with extra metadata >>>> 6. SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. >>>> >>>> We could decide to drop 4 in favour of 5. (or v.v.) >>>> >>>> Furthermore, if we agree this is a good idea, I can start implementing >>>> export.php and we can see how we will fit this in user interface later. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 4-5-2012 14:21, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> >>>>> Or >>>>> >>>>> Maybe we drop export as the tab name >>>>> >>>>> 1 Tab is called Export (Scorm + Scorm metadata) >>>>> >>>>> 1 Tab is download (for deployment, locally, to work locally) >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, this is time for the FWS test. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>> >>>>>> It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local >>>>>>> export >>>>>>> is also a variant of deployment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export >>>>>>>>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What was the reason? Can you remember? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29 >>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> i don't want to name who it was >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>>>>>>> Lockley >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58 >>>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are >>>>>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>>>>> full urls (i think) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That is correct, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should >>>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a >>>>>>>>>>>> deployment >>>>>>>>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> 'normal' zip export? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in >>>>>>>>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> /language folder >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only >>>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>> those models are used >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>>>>>>>>>>> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>>>>>>>>>>> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>>>>>>>>>>> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>>>>>>>>>>> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >>>>>>>>>>>>> scorm >>>>>>>>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as >>>>>>>>>>>>> well... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Comitted >>>>>>>>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to >>>>>>>>>>>>> set a >>>>>>>>>>>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one >>>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goodwin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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I have also tested the youtube feed model file (the version now in the xerte svn pageWizards/models folder - which is essentially the new page created by Julian with the changes to make it conform to the new pageWizard test and accomdate page indexing.) in a desktop Xerte project and again am finding no unexpected scroll bars appearing. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 May 2012 09:00, Julian Tenney wrote: > > feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip() > > delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar; > > doesn't resolve the problem - doesn't do anything. > > > > You gave the icon an ID? Set it to 1 for now then. I?ll investigate. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 15:32 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Ok possibly getting closer... > > > > with the .rlt open and hitting play... > > with scrolling off - problem gone > > with scrolling 1 - problem gone > > with scrolling auto - problem exists! > > > > Adding a script icon on it's own or attached to a button after feedText in > the rlm and adding > > feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip() > > delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar; > > doesn't resolve the problem - doesn't do anything. > > > > BTW now that the selected video pops up in a new window would it be better > to set the height of the instruction text box to something like 470? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 14:51 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Can you try a couple of things? > > > > - turn scrolling off (delete the property) on the feedText icon in > youtuberss.rlm ? //if the icon is screwing this up, this should stop any > scrolling at all > > - put it back on, turn it to 1? //this will add scroll bars whatever the > size of the feed text is returned, just curious if it makes any odds. > > > > If those fail we need to debug it from within the engine and see what?s > going on: I want to know if it?s getting added twice (which I don?t think > it is). You could try customising the page and adding abutton to the > youtuberss.rlm file so you could do things like: > > > > //try and kill it? > > feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip() > > delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar; > > > > //then try this on another button and see if it puts it back properly. If > we can tie it down to the scroller in the text icon that would be a start. > > feedTextIcon.enableScroll(true); > > > > Does it happen on any other scrollable text fields? Maybe create one > somewhere and see if that also screws up? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 14:13 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Just updated the engine, cleared cache in both IE and Safari but same > problem exists. > > > > Presumably you've seen the posts to the xerteforteachers list confirming > that others get this too? > > > > My Flash player = 11.2.202.233 > > > > Reported by Adam on teachers list > > Windows 7 > > Chrome > > Flash: 11.2.202.235 > > > > Reported by Shirley on teachers list > > Yes I see it in IE 8 and in FF 8.0.1 I get a blank page, cannot see videos > at all. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 13:52 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > This has got to be an engine problem: it looks like the Flash Component > that provides scrolling, but before it?s been properly initialised and > moved / sized to the right place. > > > > What version of the flash player have you got? > > > > Have you got the latest engine on the web site? I just committed a latest > one to the root of the toolkits svn. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 11:31 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no > difference. > > > > Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8, > Safari, Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also > although I was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who > raised the issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody > else on this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but > let's open this out - I'll send the link to the other lists > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 11:18 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Ahh. Maybe it?s the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still > in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the > freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of > the YT pages. > > > > Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 10:51 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same > issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published > project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the > beta install... > > > > If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I > don't get the rogue scroller. > > If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the > rogue scroller. > > However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and > preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g. > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55 > > > > So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this > but does this point to a possible cause solution? > > > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 09:32 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Do you get it in standalone xerte? > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 02 May 2012 08:55 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well. > > > > Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll > create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get > other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 14:19 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll > bar on that in any of the browsers. > > > > So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being > the problem. > > > > I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so > it's not that. > > > > I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists. > > > > Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc > and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others > here on this list could test and confirm either way? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:51 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > XP. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:51 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or > something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier? > > > > Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later. > > > > Anyone else seeing or not seeing this? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:40 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > No I?m not: > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:35 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 > > > > I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:16 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > I aint seein? no scrollbar. > > > > This some third party thing you guys have installed? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:13 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Have uploaded. P60 of > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 > > > > We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which > also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs. > > > > Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text? > > > > In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to > my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on > IE9 too. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:02 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the > params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the > focus when it?s made, so you don?t lose it. That?s in preview_xerte_top > (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it?) > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 12:39 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 > > > > If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but > page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if > you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62. > > > > Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as > resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or > perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and > Safari I can resize the pop-up. > > > > Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I > don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going > then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions > and view full screen are available. > > > > How will the feed page work? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 12:14 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its > in the XOT svn now as well. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 11:41 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page > > > > Hi Julian > > did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn > that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the > two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install? > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 01 May 2012 11:29 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page > > > > I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to > launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it?s gribbly: the > movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new > page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new > window, but I think it?s the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff > finished. > > > > If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I?ll do the RSS one as well, > but I?ll wait for any comments first. > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri May 4 22:12:17 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 22:12:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> Message-ID: I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and also the newly generated data.xwd. These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing. Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the performance of the pages until I can recreate them. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Johnathan, that would be fine yes. > > Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Thanks for the update. > > With respect to the XOT repository > it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT > repository > with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository > > cMcq.rlm > connectorHotspotImage.rlm > connectorMenu.rlm > connectorPlainText.rlm > cRedirector.rlm > cTabNav.rlm > inventory.rlm > quiz.rlm > scenario.rlm > youtube.rlm > youtuberss.rlm > > the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the > template.xwd file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. > > Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the > appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you > are concerned re-svn histories? > > Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository >> Updated build script to obey restrict >> rebuilt xerte-beta.exe >> >> >> Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. >> >> Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing >> the Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now >> committed into the PageWizards section of the svn. >> >> I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned >> flash player permissions. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> >>> perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", >>> restrict="template" >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>> >>> Yes, that would be fine... >>> >>> basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change >>> that. The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the >>> basis of the generated template.xwd) >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> >>> I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but >>> it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it >>> generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in >>> newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the >>> restrict property in the >> >>> e.g.s >>> >>> >> menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" >>> restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd >>> >>> // example for indexChanger.xwd >>> >>> Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both >>> Xerte and XOT >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, the restrict would be perfect. >>>> >>>> I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would >>>> loose all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do >>>> that) >>>> >>>> Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>> >>>> Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be >>>> included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that >>>> contain it from breaking? >>>> >>>> I have been checking over earlier discussions. >>>> >>>> My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte >>>> model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. >>>> >>>> I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards >>>> section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, >>>> which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make >>>> sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for >>>> the next release of Xerte. >>>> >>>> Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you >>>> prefer to do that Tom? >>>> >>>> I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to >>>> identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger >>>> page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that >>>> belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). >>>> >>>> I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages >>>> >>>> restrict="d" // desktop >>>> restrict="t" // toolkits >>>> >>>> if that would meet your requirements. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> >>>>> The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they >>>>> don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been >>>>> changed into a paid service) >>>>> >>>>> So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. >>>>> >>>>> Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>>> >>>>> Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this >>>>> does not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there >>>>> have been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. >>>>> >>>>> Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? >>>>> >>>>> The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards >>>>> section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / >>>>> translation.xwd >>>>> The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of >>>>> having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name >>>>> property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is >>>>> why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. >>>>> >>>>> The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards >>>>> section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to >>>>> problems with the Google translation service. >>>>> >>>>> However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward >>>>> compatibility. >>>>> >>>>> I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the >>>>> XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the >>>>> data.xwd file. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn >>>>>> updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube >>>>>> individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the >>>>>> svn of these pages. >>>>>> >>>>>> The new updated models for the Connector pages have some >>>>>> differences in none - optional properties so will not be directly >>>>>> compatible with existing Connector pages. 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Because > rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit > event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for > the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. > > Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach > should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source > the page information) > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sat May 5 09:28:56 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 09:28:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> Message-ID: <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> Hi Jonathan/all sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test install now updated with latest code/updates etc Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot anything broken with the connector pages? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 May 2012 22:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and also the newly generated data.xwd. These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing. Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the performance of the pages until I can recreate them. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders wrote: Johnathan, that would be fine yes. Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Thanks for the update. With respect to the XOT repository it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT repository with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository cMcq.rlm connectorHotspotImage.rlm connectorMenu.rlm connectorPlainText.rlm cRedirector.rlm cTabNav.rlm inventory.rlm quiz.rlm scenario.rlm youtube.rlm youtuberss.rlm the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you are concerned re-svn histories? Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository Updated build script to obey restrict rebuilt xerte-beta.exe Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed into the PageWizards section of the svn. I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash player permissions. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", restrict="template" Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: Yes, that would be fine... basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of the generated template.xwd) Tom Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the restrict property in the // example for basic.xwd // example for indexChanger.xwd Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte and XOT Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: Yes, the restrict would be perfect. I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that contain it from breaking? I have been checking over earlier discussions. My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for the next release of Xerte. Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer to do that Tom? I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages restrict="d" // desktop restrict="t" // toolkits if that would meet your requirements. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed into a paid service) So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / translation.xwd The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems with the Google translation service. However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the data.xwd file. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the svn of these pages. The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages. As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models conform to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated pages can be tried out in the XOT beta. Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sat May 5 09:44:13 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 09:44:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> Message-ID: <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> Working fine here too http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu Win 7 64bit IE 8.0 Chrome 18.0 Safari 5.1.5 Opera 10.60 Firefox 12.0 Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Hello Everyone, I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always have them open at the title page. Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection will be lost. Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - not Xerte. For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls will not work). It should open at a title page. Then add to the url in your browser ?pageID=menu and press enter to reload the page. After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the menu page. I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the page information) Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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It would be nice if the onInit event didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully available. I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript sorted out and then post something for you to try out. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Working fine here too > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > > Win 7 64bit > > IE 8.0 > > Chrome 18.0 > > Safari 5.1.5 > > Opera 10.60 > > Firefox 12.0 > > > > Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 05 May 2012 08:23 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and > after 1 second the menu page is opened) > > Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > > Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it > possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always > have them open at the title page. > > > > Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. > > > > Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If > you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will > overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection > will be lost. > > > > Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - > not Xerte. > > > > For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as > a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls > will not work). > > > > It should open at a title page. > > > > Then add to the url in your browser > > > > ?pageID=menu > > > > and press enter to reload the page. > > > > After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the > menu page. > > > > I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > > > > If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if > the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > > > > Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length > has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a > timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the > delay before redirection takes place. > > > > Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach > should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the > page information) > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat May 5 10:24:03 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 10:24:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> Message-ID: The changes are in respect to the child Display Text element and the navigation options. If you try editing one of the connector pages you will see that there are no navigation options available. I will need to delete and re-create the pages in order for the new forms to create the appropriate xml to drive the changes to the models. (Then I need to modify my introduction to Connector pages so that it is consistent with the new versions of the pages. I will also get around to updating the spreadsheet with the bugs fixed - though this may have to wait till some time tomorrow my free time is pretty much none-existent for most of today. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi Jonathan/all > > sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test > install now updated with latest code/updates etc > > Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot > anything broken with the connector pages? > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 May 2012 22:12 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages > > > > I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and > also the newly generated data.xwd. > > > > These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing. > > > > Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in > and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options > and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the > performance of the pages until I can recreate them. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Johnathan, that would be fine yes. > > Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Thanks for the update. > > > > With respect to the XOT repository > > it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT > repository > > with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository > > > > cMcq.rlm > > connectorHotspotImage.rlm > > connectorMenu.rlm > > connectorPlainText.rlm > > cRedirector.rlm > > cTabNav.rlm > > inventory.rlm > > quiz.rlm > > scenario.rlm > > youtube.rlm > > youtuberss.rlm > > > > the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd > file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. > > > > Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the > appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you > are concerned re-svn histories? > > > > Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository > Updated build script to obey restrict > rebuilt xerte-beta.exe > > > Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. > > > > Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the > Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed > into the PageWizards section of the svn. > > > > I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash > player permissions. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", > restrict="template" > > Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > Yes, that would be fine... > > basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. > The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of > the generated template.xwd) > > Tom > > Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but > it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it > generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in > newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the > restrict property in the > > > e.g.s > > > > menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" > restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd > > > > // example for indexChanger.xwd > > > > Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte > and XOT > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Yes, the restrict would be perfect. > > I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose > all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) > > Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be > included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that > contain it from breaking? > > > > I have been checking over earlier discussions. > > > > My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model > and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. > > > > I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards > section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, > which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make > sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for > the next release of Xerte. > > > > Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer > to do that Tom? > > > > I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to > identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger > page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that > belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). > > > > I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages > > > > restrict="d" // desktop > > restrict="t" // toolkits > > > > if that would meet your requirements. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't > work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed > into a paid service) > > So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. > > Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not > need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no > changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. > > > > Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? > > > > The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do > not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / > translation.xwd > > The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having > the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name > property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is > why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. > > > > The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section > of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems > with the Google translation service. > > > > However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. > > > > I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT > repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the > data.xwd file. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates > to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. > > > > I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube > individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the > svn of these pages. > > > > The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in > none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing > Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages. > > > > As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models conform > to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated pages > can be tried out in the XOT beta. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat May 5 10:37:40 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 10:37:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> Message-ID: I have just replaced the Connector menu page at the start of the Connectors section. The correct data.xwd is in place as I am now seeing the correct navigation properties being offered and the optional colour properties that allow you to change the colour of the menu. However navigation buttons are not showing as disabled, which suggests that the latest version of XMLEngine.swf may not be installed. Also I added the optional colour properties and changed the colours that should display when hovering over a menu item and these effects are not happening in the page. So I am wondering if the correct model file is in place? If you take a look at the Connector menu page at the start of the Connector pages section you should see what I mean. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi Jonathan/all > > sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test > install now updated with latest code/updates etc > > Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot > anything broken with the connector pages? > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 May 2012 22:12 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages > > > > I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and > also the newly generated data.xwd. > > > > These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing. > > > > Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in > and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options > and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the > performance of the pages until I can recreate them. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Johnathan, that would be fine yes. > > Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Thanks for the update. > > > > With respect to the XOT repository > > it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT > repository > > with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository > > > > cMcq.rlm > > connectorHotspotImage.rlm > > connectorMenu.rlm > > connectorPlainText.rlm > > cRedirector.rlm > > cTabNav.rlm > > inventory.rlm > > quiz.rlm > > scenario.rlm > > youtube.rlm > > youtuberss.rlm > > > > the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd > file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. > > > > Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the > appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you > are concerned re-svn histories? > > > > Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository > Updated build script to obey restrict > rebuilt xerte-beta.exe > > > Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. > > > > Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the > Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed > into the PageWizards section of the svn. > > > > I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash > player permissions. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", > restrict="template" > > Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > Yes, that would be fine... > > basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. > The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of > the generated template.xwd) > > Tom > > Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but > it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it > generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in > newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the > restrict property in the > > > e.g.s > > > > menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" > restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd > > > > // example for indexChanger.xwd > > > > Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte > and XOT > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Yes, the restrict would be perfect. > > I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose > all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) > > Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be > included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that > contain it from breaking? > > > > I have been checking over earlier discussions. > > > > My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model > and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. > > > > I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards > section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, > which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make > sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for > the next release of Xerte. > > > > Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer > to do that Tom? > > > > I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to > identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger > page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that > belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). > > > > I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages > > > > restrict="d" // desktop > > restrict="t" // toolkits > > > > if that would meet your requirements. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't > work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed > into a paid service) > > So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. > > Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not > need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no > changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. > > > > Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? > > > > The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do > not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / > translation.xwd > > The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having > the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name > property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is > why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. > > > > The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section > of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems > with the Google translation service. > > > > However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. > > > > I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT > repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the > data.xwd file. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates > to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. > > > > I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube > individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the > svn of these pages. > > > > The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in > none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing > Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages. > > > > As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models conform > to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated pages > can be tried out in the XOT beta. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sat May 5 11:59:10 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 11:59:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> Message-ID: <000601cd2aae$1bfbdf20$53f39d60$@co.uk> Ok try again - don't have time to check right now - going offline - but I just replaced all files rather than just updated - hopefully that resolves this but if not I'll have to check again later. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 May 2012 10:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages I have just replaced the Connector menu page at the start of the Connectors section. The correct data.xwd is in place as I am now seeing the correct navigation properties being offered and the optional colour properties that allow you to change the colour of the menu. However navigation buttons are not showing as disabled, which suggests that the latest version of XMLEngine.swf may not be installed. Also I added the optional colour properties and changed the colours that should display when hovering over a menu item and these effects are not happening in the page. So I am wondering if the correct model file is in place? If you take a look at the Connector menu page at the start of the Connector pages section you should see what I mean. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi Jonathan/all sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test install now updated with latest code/updates etc Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot anything broken with the connector pages? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 May 2012 22:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and also the newly generated data.xwd. These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing. Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the performance of the pages until I can recreate them. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders wrote: Johnathan, that would be fine yes. Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Thanks for the update. With respect to the XOT repository it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT repository with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository cMcq.rlm connectorHotspotImage.rlm connectorMenu.rlm connectorPlainText.rlm cRedirector.rlm cTabNav.rlm inventory.rlm quiz.rlm scenario.rlm youtube.rlm youtuberss.rlm the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you are concerned re-svn histories? Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository Updated build script to obey restrict rebuilt xerte-beta.exe Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed into the PageWizards section of the svn. I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash player permissions. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", restrict="template" Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: Yes, that would be fine... basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of the generated template.xwd) Tom Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the restrict property in the // example for basic.xwd // example for indexChanger.xwd Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte and XOT Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: Yes, the restrict would be perfect. I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that contain it from breaking? I have been checking over earlier discussions. My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for the next release of Xerte. Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer to do that Tom? I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages restrict="d" // desktop restrict="t" // toolkits if that would meet your requirements. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed into a paid service) So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / translation.xwd The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems with the Google translation service. However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the data.xwd file. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the svn of these pages. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sat May 5 19:13:57 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 19:13:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FA2A348.5050605@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <69E04636-8ED5-432E-A702-BC6439420B9A@palepurple.co.uk> <008601cd2842$58f07a80$0ad16f80$@co.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> Message-ID: <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs & Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media & quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: > i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I will, but they are really simple. >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>> might have hungry regexs? >>> >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>> wrote: >>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>> >>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>> >>>> >>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>> >>>> David. >>>> >>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications >>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Sat May 5 19:23:25 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 20:23:25 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Hi > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > Friday... > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be > as a backup of the whole project. > > HTH > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > Fixes and additions for export > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language > folder > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those > models are used > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sun May 6 10:48:35 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 10:48:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: <000601cd2aae$1bfbdf20$53f39d60$@co.uk> References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> <000601cd2aae$1bfbdf20$53f39d60$@co.uk> Message-ID: Sorry I could not reply yesterday, I was unable to access my email account due to problems at their end. I have checked the website and the Menu for the Connector pages is still showing the correct fields in the xwd form but the expected results in terms of disabled navigation and changing colour of menu options on mouse over are not showing. I have updated my copy of the XOT svn and confirmed that the connectorMenu.rlm file is the latest version (XOT svn/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/). I probably won't get any more time today to look at this. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 11:59, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Ok try again - don't have time to check right now - going offline - but I > just replaced all files rather than just updated - hopefully that resolves > this but if not I'll have to check again later. > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 May 2012 10:38 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages > > > > I have just replaced the Connector menu page at the start of the > Connectors section. > > > > The correct data.xwd is in place as I am now seeing the correct navigation > properties being offered and the optional colour properties that allow you > to change the colour of the menu. However navigation buttons are not > showing as disabled, which suggests that the latest version of > XMLEngine.swf may not be installed. > > > > Also I added the optional colour properties and changed the colours that > should display when hovering over a menu item and these effects are not > happening in the page. So I am wondering if the correct model file is in > place? > > > > If you take a look at the Connector menu page at the start of the > Connector pages section you should see what I mean. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 May 2012 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > Hi Jonathan/all > > sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test > install now updated with latest code/updates etc > > Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot > anything broken with the connector pages? > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 May 2012 22:12 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages > > > > I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and > also the newly generated data.xwd. > > > > These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing. > > > > Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in > and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options > and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the > performance of the pages until I can recreate them. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Johnathan, that would be fine yes. > > Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Thanks for the update. > > > > With respect to the XOT repository > > it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT > repository > > with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository > > > > cMcq.rlm > > connectorHotspotImage.rlm > > connectorMenu.rlm > > connectorPlainText.rlm > > cRedirector.rlm > > cTabNav.rlm > > inventory.rlm > > quiz.rlm > > scenario.rlm > > youtube.rlm > > youtuberss.rlm > > > > the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd > file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. > > > > Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the > appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you > are concerned re-svn histories? > > > > Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository > Updated build script to obey restrict > rebuilt xerte-beta.exe > > > Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. > > > > Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the > Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed > into the PageWizards section of the svn. > > > > I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash > player permissions. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", > restrict="template" > > Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > Yes, that would be fine... > > basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. > The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of > the generated template.xwd) > > Tom > > Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but > it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it > generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in > newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the > restrict property in the > > > e.g.s > > > > menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" > restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd > > > > // example for indexChanger.xwd > > > > Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte > and XOT > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Yes, the restrict would be perfect. > > I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose > all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) > > Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be > included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that > contain it from breaking? > > > > I have been checking over earlier discussions. > > > > My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model > and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. > > > > I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards > section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, > which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make > sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for > the next release of Xerte. > > > > Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer > to do that Tom? > > > > I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to > identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger > page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that > belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). > > > > I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages > > > > restrict="d" // desktop > > restrict="t" // toolkits > > > > if that would meet your requirements. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't > work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed > into a paid service) > > So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. > > Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not > need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no > changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. > > > > Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? > > > > The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do > not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / > translation.xwd > > The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having > the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name > property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is > why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. > > > > The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section > of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems > with the Google translation service. > > > > However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. > > > > I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT > repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the > data.xwd file. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates > to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. > > > > I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube > individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the > svn of these pages. > > > > The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in > none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing > Connector pages. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sun May 6 20:32:32 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 20:32:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> <000601cd2aae$1bfbdf20$53f39d60$@co.uk> Message-ID: <000a01cd2bbe$fd8d02f0$f8a708d0$@co.uk> Hi Jonathan I've just been checking this and the test server definitely has all the latest code from the xot svn. As far as I can tell changing colour on menu over is working but as you say disabling navigation doesn't appear to be. To test further I updated my local xampp copy replacing all the code apart from user-files and database.php and exactly the same combination of what works and what doesn't appears with that too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages Sorry I could not reply yesterday, I was unable to access my email account due to problems at their end. I have checked the website and the Menu for the Connector pages is still showing the correct fields in the xwd form but the expected results in terms of disabled navigation and changing colour of menu options on mouse over are not showing. I have updated my copy of the XOT svn and confirmed that the connectorMenu.rlm file is the latest version (XOT svn/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/). I probably won't get any more time today to look at this. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 11:59, Ron Mitchell wrote: Ok try again - don't have time to check right now - going offline - but I just replaced all files rather than just updated - hopefully that resolves this but if not I'll have to check again later. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 May 2012 10:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages I have just replaced the Connector menu page at the start of the Connectors section. The correct data.xwd is in place as I am now seeing the correct navigation properties being offered and the optional colour properties that allow you to change the colour of the menu. However navigation buttons are not showing as disabled, which suggests that the latest version of XMLEngine.swf may not be installed. Also I added the optional colour properties and changed the colours that should display when hovering over a menu item and these effects are not happening in the page. So I am wondering if the correct model file is in place? If you take a look at the Connector menu page at the start of the Connector pages section you should see what I mean. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi Jonathan/all sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test install now updated with latest code/updates etc Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot anything broken with the connector pages? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 May 2012 22:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and also the newly generated data.xwd. These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing. Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the performance of the pages until I can recreate them. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders wrote: Johnathan, that would be fine yes. Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Thanks for the update. With respect to the XOT repository it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT repository with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository cMcq.rlm connectorHotspotImage.rlm connectorMenu.rlm connectorPlainText.rlm cRedirector.rlm cTabNav.rlm inventory.rlm quiz.rlm scenario.rlm youtube.rlm youtuberss.rlm the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you are concerned re-svn histories? Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository Updated build script to obey restrict rebuilt xerte-beta.exe Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed into the PageWizards section of the svn. I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash player permissions. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", restrict="template" Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: Yes, that would be fine... basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of the generated template.xwd) Tom Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the restrict property in the // example for basic.xwd // example for indexChanger.xwd Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte and XOT Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: Yes, the restrict would be perfect. I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that contain it from breaking? I have been checking over earlier discussions. My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for the next release of Xerte. Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer to do that Tom? I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages restrict="d" // desktop restrict="t" // toolkits if that would meet your requirements. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed into a paid service) So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / translation.xwd The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems with the Google translation service. However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the data.xwd file. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the svn of these pages. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sun May 6 20:52:58 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 20:52:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: <000a01cd2bbe$fd8d02f0$f8a708d0$@co.uk> References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> <000601cd2aae$1bfbdf20$53f39d60$@co.uk> <000a01cd2bbe$fd8d02f0$f8a708d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: If for you it is only the navigation disabling that is not working then the problem is the copy of XMLEngine.swf is not the most recent as Julian added a new method to the buttons so that I could disable them. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 May 2012 20:32, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi Jonathan > > I've just been checking this and the test server definitely has all the > latest code from the xot svn. As far as I can tell changing colour on menu > over is working but as you say disabling navigation doesn't appear to be. > > > > To test further I updated my local xampp copy replacing all the code apart > from user-files and database.php and exactly the same combination of what > works and what doesn't appears with that too. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 May 2012 10:49 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages > > > > Sorry I could not reply yesterday, I was unable to access my email account > due to problems at their end. > > > > I have checked the website and the Menu for the Connector pages is still > showing the correct fields in the xwd form but the expected results in > terms of disabled navigation and changing colour of menu options on mouse > over are not showing. > > > > I have updated my copy of the XOT svn and confirmed that the > connectorMenu.rlm file is the latest version (XOT > svn/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/). > > > > I probably won't get any more time today to look at this. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 May 2012 11:59, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > Ok try again - don't have time to check right now - going offline - but I > just replaced all files rather than just updated - hopefully that resolves > this but if not I'll have to check again later. > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 May 2012 10:38 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages > > > > I have just replaced the Connector menu page at the start of the > Connectors section. > > > > The correct data.xwd is in place as I am now seeing the correct navigation > properties being offered and the optional colour properties that allow you > to change the colour of the menu. However navigation buttons are not > showing as disabled, which suggests that the latest version of > XMLEngine.swf may not be installed. > > > > Also I added the optional colour properties and changed the colours that > should display when hovering over a menu item and these effects are not > happening in the page. So I am wondering if the correct model file is in > place? > > > > If you take a look at the Connector menu page at the start of the > Connector pages section you should see what I mean. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 May 2012 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > Hi Jonathan/all > > sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test > install now updated with latest code/updates etc > > Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot > anything broken with the connector pages? > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 May 2012 22:12 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages > > > > I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and > also the newly generated data.xwd. > > > > These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing. > > > > Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in > and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options > and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the > performance of the pages until I can recreate them. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Johnathan, that would be fine yes. > > Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Thanks for the update. > > > > With respect to the XOT repository > > it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT > repository > > with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository > > > > cMcq.rlm > > connectorHotspotImage.rlm > > connectorMenu.rlm > > connectorPlainText.rlm > > cRedirector.rlm > > cTabNav.rlm > > inventory.rlm > > quiz.rlm > > scenario.rlm > > youtube.rlm > > youtuberss.rlm > > > > the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd > file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. > > > > Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the > appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you > are concerned re-svn histories? > > > > Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository > Updated build script to obey restrict > rebuilt xerte-beta.exe > > > Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. > > > > Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the > Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed > into the PageWizards section of the svn. > > > > I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash > player permissions. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", > restrict="template" > > Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > Yes, that would be fine... > > basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. > The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of > the generated template.xwd) > > Tom > > Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but > it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it > generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in > newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the > restrict property in the > > > e.g.s > > > > menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" > restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd > > > > // example for indexChanger.xwd > > > > Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte > and XOT > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Yes, the restrict would be perfect. > > I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose > all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) > > Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be > included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that > contain it from breaking? > > > > I have been checking over earlier discussions. > > > > My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model > and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. > > > > I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards > section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, > which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make > sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for > the next release of Xerte. > > > > Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer > to do that Tom? > > > > I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to > identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger > page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that > belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). > > > > I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages > > > > restrict="d" // desktop > > restrict="t" // toolkits > > > > if that would meet your requirements. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't > work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed > into a paid service) > > So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. > > Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not > need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no > changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. > > > > Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? > > > > The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do > not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / > translation.xwd > > The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having > the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name > property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is > why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. > > > > The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section > of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems > with the Google translation service. > > > > However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. > > > > I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT > repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the > data.xwd file. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates > to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. > > > > I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube > individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the > svn of these pages. > > > > The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in > none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing > Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages. > > > > As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models conform > to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated pages > can be tried out in the XOT beta. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sun May 6 21:46:18 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 21:46:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> <000601cd2aae$1bfbdf20$53f39d60$@co.uk> <000a01cd2bbe$fd8d02f0$f8a708d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <001b01cd2bc9$4dbf5ca0$e93e15e0$@co.uk> If that's the case then unless I'm doing something wrong I think that updated XMLEngine.swf can't yet be in the XOT svn. e.g. the one in the svn and on the test server and my local install as far as I can tell was last updated 02/05/2012 13:58 HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 May 2012 20:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages If for you it is only the navigation disabling that is not working then the problem is the copy of XMLEngine.swf is not the most recent as Julian added a new method to the buttons so that I could disable them. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 May 2012 20:32, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi Jonathan I've just been checking this and the test server definitely has all the latest code from the xot svn. As far as I can tell changing colour on menu over is working but as you say disabling navigation doesn't appear to be. To test further I updated my local xampp copy replacing all the code apart from user-files and database.php and exactly the same combination of what works and what doesn't appears with that too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages Sorry I could not reply yesterday, I was unable to access my email account due to problems at their end. I have checked the website and the Menu for the Connector pages is still showing the correct fields in the xwd form but the expected results in terms of disabled navigation and changing colour of menu options on mouse over are not showing. I have updated my copy of the XOT svn and confirmed that the connectorMenu.rlm file is the latest version (XOT svn/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/). I probably won't get any more time today to look at this. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 11:59, Ron Mitchell wrote: Ok try again - don't have time to check right now - going offline - but I just replaced all files rather than just updated - hopefully that resolves this but if not I'll have to check again later. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 May 2012 10:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages I have just replaced the Connector menu page at the start of the Connectors section. The correct data.xwd is in place as I am now seeing the correct navigation properties being offered and the optional colour properties that allow you to change the colour of the menu. However navigation buttons are not showing as disabled, which suggests that the latest version of XMLEngine.swf may not be installed. Also I added the optional colour properties and changed the colours that should display when hovering over a menu item and these effects are not happening in the page. So I am wondering if the correct model file is in place? If you take a look at the Connector menu page at the start of the Connector pages section you should see what I mean. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi Jonathan/all sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test install now updated with latest code/updates etc Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot anything broken with the connector pages? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 May 2012 22:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and also the newly generated data.xwd. These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing. Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the performance of the pages until I can recreate them. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders wrote: Johnathan, that would be fine yes. Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Thanks for the update. With respect to the XOT repository it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT repository with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository cMcq.rlm connectorHotspotImage.rlm connectorMenu.rlm connectorPlainText.rlm cRedirector.rlm cTabNav.rlm inventory.rlm quiz.rlm scenario.rlm youtube.rlm youtuberss.rlm the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you are concerned re-svn histories? Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository Updated build script to obey restrict rebuilt xerte-beta.exe Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed into the PageWizards section of the svn. I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash player permissions. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", restrict="template" Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: Yes, that would be fine... basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of the generated template.xwd) Tom Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the restrict property in the // example for basic.xwd // example for indexChanger.xwd Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte and XOT Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: Yes, the restrict would be perfect. I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that contain it from breaking? I have been checking over earlier discussions. My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for the next release of Xerte. Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer to do that Tom? I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages restrict="d" // desktop restrict="t" // toolkits if that would meet your requirements. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed into a paid service) So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / translation.xwd The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems with the Google translation service. However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the data.xwd file. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the svn of these pages. The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages. As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models conform to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated pages can be tried out in the XOT beta. Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sun May 6 22:31:17 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 22:31:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: <001b01cd2bc9$4dbf5ca0$e93e15e0$@co.uk> References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> <000601cd2aae$1bfbdf20$53f39d60$@co.uk> <000a01cd2bbe$fd8d02f0$f8a708d0$@co.uk> <001b01cd2bc9$4dbf5ca0$e93e15e0$@co.uk> Message-ID: I just checked on the web site and everything appears to be working now. When I get a chance I will update the bug list spreadsheet and the pages on the website that have been affected by the changes. But it may take me a day or so as I have a hell of a lot on at the moment. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 May 2012 21:46, Ron Mitchell wrote: > If that's the case then unless I'm doing something wrong I think that > updated XMLEngine.swf can't yet be in the XOT svn. e.g. the one in the svn > and on the test server and my local install as far as I can tell was last > updated 02/05/2012 13:58 > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 May 2012 20:53 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages > > > > If for you it is only the navigation disabling that is not working then > the problem is the copy of XMLEngine.swf is not the most recent as Julian > added a new method to the buttons so that I could disable them. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 6 May 2012 20:32, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > Hi Jonathan > > I've just been checking this and the test server definitely has all the > latest code from the xot svn. As far as I can tell changing colour on menu > over is working but as you say disabling navigation doesn't appear to be. > > > > To test further I updated my local xampp copy replacing all the code apart > from user-files and database.php and exactly the same combination of what > works and what doesn't appears with that too. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 May 2012 10:49 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages > > > > Sorry I could not reply yesterday, I was unable to access my email account > due to problems at their end. > > > > I have checked the website and the Menu for the Connector pages is still > showing the correct fields in the xwd form but the expected results in > terms of disabled navigation and changing colour of menu options on mouse > over are not showing. > > > > I have updated my copy of the XOT svn and confirmed that the > connectorMenu.rlm file is the latest version (XOT > svn/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/). > > > > I probably won't get any more time today to look at this. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 May 2012 11:59, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > Ok try again - don't have time to check right now - going offline - but I > just replaced all files rather than just updated - hopefully that resolves > this but if not I'll have to check again later. > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 May 2012 10:38 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages > > > > I have just replaced the Connector menu page at the start of the > Connectors section. > > > > The correct data.xwd is in place as I am now seeing the correct navigation > properties being offered and the optional colour properties that allow you > to change the colour of the menu. However navigation buttons are not > showing as disabled, which suggests that the latest version of > XMLEngine.swf may not be installed. > > > > Also I added the optional colour properties and changed the colours that > should display when hovering over a menu item and these effects are not > happening in the page. So I am wondering if the correct model file is in > place? > > > > If you take a look at the Connector menu page at the start of the > Connector pages section you should see what I mean. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 May 2012 09:28, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > Hi Jonathan/all > > sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test > install now updated with latest code/updates etc > > Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot > anything broken with the connector pages? > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 May 2012 22:12 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages > > > > I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and > also the newly generated data.xwd. > > > > These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing. > > > > Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in > and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options > and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the > performance of the pages until I can recreate them. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Johnathan, that would be fine yes. > > Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Thanks for the update. > > > > With respect to the XOT repository > > it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT > repository > > with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository > > > > cMcq.rlm > > connectorHotspotImage.rlm > > connectorMenu.rlm > > connectorPlainText.rlm > > cRedirector.rlm > > cTabNav.rlm > > inventory.rlm > > quiz.rlm > > scenario.rlm > > youtube.rlm > > youtuberss.rlm > > > > the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd > file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. > > > > Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the > appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you > are concerned re-svn histories? > > > > Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository > Updated build script to obey restrict > rebuilt xerte-beta.exe > > > Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. > > > > Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the > Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed > into the PageWizards section of the svn. > > > > I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash > player permissions. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", > restrict="template" > > Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > Yes, that would be fine... > > basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. > The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of > the generated template.xwd) > > Tom > > Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but > it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it > generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in > newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the > restrict property in the > > > e.g.s > > > > menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" > restrict="t"> // example for basic.xwd > > > > // example for indexChanger.xwd > > > > Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte > and XOT > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Yes, the restrict would be perfect. > > I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose > all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) > > Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be > included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that > contain it from breaking? > > > > I have been checking over earlier discussions. > > > > My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model > and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. > > > > I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards > section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, > which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make > sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for > the next release of Xerte. > > > > Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer > to do that Tom? > > > > I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to > identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger > page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that > belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). > > > > I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages > > > > restrict="d" // desktop > > restrict="t" // toolkits > > > > if that would meet your requirements. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't > work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed > into a paid service) > > So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. > > Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not > need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no > changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. > > > > Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? > > > > The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do > not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / > translation.xwd > > The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having > the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name > property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is > why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. > > > > The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section > of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems > with the Google translation service. > > > > However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. > > > > I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT > repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the > data.xwd file. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates > to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. > > > > I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube > individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the > svn of these pages. > > > > The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in > none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing > Connector pages. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 9 10:12:02 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:12:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <4FA1A1B0.9030501@tor.nl> <4FA26284.6080206@tor.nl> <4FA2701D.2040408@tor.nl> <4FA27074.8090909@tor.nl> <4FA2D2E7.2020107@tor.nl> <4FA2F64B.8050608@tor.nl> <002401cd2a99$20410f70$60c32e50$@co.uk> <000601cd2aae$1bfbdf20$53f39d60$@co.uk> <000a01cd2bbe$fd8d02f0$f8a708d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94A6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I commited the latest version - and just checked, it's in there, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 May 2012 20:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages If for you it is only the navigation disabling that is not working then the problem is the copy of XMLEngine.swf is not the most recent as Julian added a new method to the buttons so that I could disable them. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 May 2012 20:32, Ron Mitchell > wrote: Hi Jonathan I've just been checking this and the test server definitely has all the latest code from the xot svn. As far as I can tell changing colour on menu over is working but as you say disabling navigation doesn't appear to be. To test further I updated my local xampp copy replacing all the code apart from user-files and database.php and exactly the same combination of what works and what doesn't appears with that too. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages Sorry I could not reply yesterday, I was unable to access my email account due to problems at their end. I have checked the website and the Menu for the Connector pages is still showing the correct fields in the xwd form but the expected results in terms of disabled navigation and changing colour of menu options on mouse over are not showing. I have updated my copy of the XOT svn and confirmed that the connectorMenu.rlm file is the latest version (XOT svn/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/). I probably won't get any more time today to look at this. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 11:59, Ron Mitchell > wrote: Ok try again - don't have time to check right now - going offline - but I just replaced all files rather than just updated - hopefully that resolves this but if not I'll have to check again later. Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 May 2012 10:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages I have just replaced the Connector menu page at the start of the Connectors section. The correct data.xwd is in place as I am now seeing the correct navigation properties being offered and the optional colour properties that allow you to change the colour of the menu. However navigation buttons are not showing as disabled, which suggests that the latest version of XMLEngine.swf may not be installed. Also I added the optional colour properties and changed the colours that should display when hovering over a menu item and these effects are not happening in the page. So I am wondering if the correct model file is in place? If you take a look at the Connector menu page at the start of the Connector pages section you should see what I mean. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:28, Ron Mitchell > wrote: Hi Jonathan/all sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test install now updated with latest code/updates etc Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot anything broken with the connector pages? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 May 2012 22:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and also the newly generated data.xwd. These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing. Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the performance of the pages until I can recreate them. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Johnathan, that would be fine yes. Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Thanks for the update. With respect to the XOT repository it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT repository with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository cMcq.rlm connectorHotspotImage.rlm connectorMenu.rlm connectorPlainText.rlm cRedirector.rlm cTabNav.rlm inventory.rlm quiz.rlm scenario.rlm youtube.rlm youtuberss.rlm the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder. Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you are concerned re-svn histories? Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository Updated build script to obey restrict rebuilt xerte-beta.exe Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef: OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models. Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed into the PageWizards section of the svn. I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash player permissions. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders > wrote: perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", restrict="template" Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: Yes, that would be fine... basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of the generated template.xwd) Tom Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the restrict property in the // example for basic.xwd // example for indexChanger.xwd Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte and XOT Kind regards Johnathan On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Yes, the restrict would be perfect. I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that) Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that contain it from breaking? I have been checking over earlier discussions. My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn. I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for the next release of Xerte. Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer to do that Tom? I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page). I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages restrict="d" // desktop restrict="t" // toolkits if that would meet your requirements. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders > wrote: The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed into a paid service) So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think. Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files. Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file? The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / translation.xwd The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel. The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems with the Google translation service. However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility. I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the data.xwd file. Kind regards Johnathan On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page. I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the svn of these pages. The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages. As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models conform to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated pages can be tried out in the XOT beta. Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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That's what the generated pageID in toolkits is for, and we wanted to make it possible for an end user to be able to link directly to any page: for some reason Pat and I backed away from making it work, for a reason that escapes me now. So I'm not sure about this: we don't want to implement two different routing solutions, and if we implement one, I want it to be one that end users can use on any page. To be honest, I think we should leave this for the future. There's still a lot to do to tie off the release, and we can't just keep adding to the list of new features: I'm approaching the 'code lock' stage in my head, and think we should concentrate on what we've got, and not add anything new now, we need to get this finished and done. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 May 2012 22:36 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Proof of concept test Hello Everyone, I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always have them open at the title page. Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection will be lost. Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - not Xerte. For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls will not work). It should open at a title page. Then add to the url in your browser ?pageID=menu and press enter to reload the page. After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the menu page. I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the page information) Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 9 10:31:08 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:31:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: there is link_id code in toolkits - I am not sure how you activate it, but the code is there On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > This is OK if you have a page with an ID you want to link to, and you know > that ID, but it won?t support users creating links to *any* page. That?s > what the generated pageID in toolkits is for, and we wanted to make it > possible for an end user to be able to link directly to any page: for some > reason Pat and I backed away from making it work, for a reason that escapes > me now. So I?m not sure about this: we don?t want to implement two different > routing solutions, and if we implement one, I want it to be one that end > users can use on any page. > > > To be honest, I think we should leave this for the future. There?s still a > lot to do to? tie off the release, and we can?t just keep adding to the list > of new features: I?m approaching the ?code lock? stage in my head, and think > we should concentrate on what we?ve got, and not add anything new now, we > need to get this finished and done. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 04 May 2012 22:36 > To: Xerte Developers Discussion List > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Proof of concept test > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it > possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always have > them open at the title page. > > > > Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. > > > > Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If > you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will > overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection > will be lost. > > > > Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - > not Xerte. > > > > For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as a > trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls > will not work). > > > > It should open at a title page. > > > > Then add to the url in your browser > > > > ?pageID=menu > > > > and press enter to reload the page. > > > > After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the > menu page. > > > > I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > > > > If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if > the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > > > > Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length > has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a > timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the > delay before redirection takes place. > > > > Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach > should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the > page information) > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 9 10:31:03 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:31:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be moved on. Let's leave this for another time. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully available. I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript sorted out and then post something for you to try out. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell > wrote: Working fine here too http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu Win 7 64bit IE 8.0 Chrome 18.0 Safari 5.1.5 Opera 10.60 Firefox 12.0 Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Hello Everyone, I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always have them open at the title page. Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection will be lost. Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - not Xerte. For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls will not work). It should open at a title page. Then add to the url in your browser ?pageID=menu and press enter to reload the page. After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the menu page. I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the page information) Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 9 10:36:52 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:36:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008701cd2843$529ccca0$f7d665e0$@co.uk> <23A43E00-8478-4E88-AA51-CD3CDA6DEB00@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Hi > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > Friday... > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be > as a backup of the whole project. > > HTH > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > Fixes and additions for export > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language > folder > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those > models are used > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted > thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a > password in the database... ;-) > > Tom > > Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might > conflict. >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> I will, but they are really simple. >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>> >>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>>> >>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>> >>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please > do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>>> in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author >>>>> of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of > Nottingham. >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>>> your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>>> UK legislatio >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received > this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Wed May 9 10:51:46 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 11:51:46 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > export/download discussion. > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> Hi >> Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& >> Friday... >> >> Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all >> the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being >> sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text >> hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than >> a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page >> or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might >> not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not >> work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that >> export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they >> can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner >> should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be >> as a backup of the whole project. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> I just committed an update to the export code: >> >> Fixes and additions for export >> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language >> folder >> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those >> models are used >> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in >> in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >> >> >> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >> >> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >> password in the database... ;-) >> >> Tom >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >> conflict. >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>> >>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >> received this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please >> do not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>>>> in any attachment. 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Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 9 10:53:39 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:53:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF42AAA49@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > export/download discussion. > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> Hi >> Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& >> Friday... >> >> Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all >> the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being >> sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text >> hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than >> a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page >> or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might >> not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not >> work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that >> export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they >> can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner >> should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be >> as a backup of the whole project. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> I just committed an update to the export code: >> >> Fixes and additions for export >> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language >> folder >> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those >> models are used >> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in >> in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >> >> >> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >> >> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >> password in the database... ;-) >> >> Tom >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >> conflict. >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>> >>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >> received this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please >> do not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>>>> in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author >>>>>> of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of >> Nottingham. >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>>>> your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>>>> UK legislatio >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received >> this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>>> in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >>>>> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of >> Nottingham. >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>>> your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Wed May 9 11:30:04 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 12:30:04 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> Message-ID: <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there > are 5 exports: > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > look at that. > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > SCORM 1.2 > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > SCORM 2004 > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > Tom > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: >> I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. >> >> Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. >> >> Are these changes on the test server now? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, >> The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the >> export/download discussion. >> >> Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>> Hi >>> Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& >>> Friday... >>> >>> Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all >>> the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being >>> sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text >>> hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than >>> a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page >>> or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might >>> not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not >>> work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that >>> export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they >>> can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner >>> should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be >>> as a backup of the whole project. >>> >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>> >>> Fixes and additions for export >>> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language >>> folder >>> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those >>> models are used >>> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in >>> in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>> >>> >>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >>> >>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>> password in the database... ;-) >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >>> conflict. >>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>> >>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>> received this message in >>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please >>> do not >>>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>>>>> in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author >>>>>>> of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of >>> Nottingham. >>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>>>>> your computer >>>>>>> system: >>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>>>>> UK legislatio >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received >>> this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>> not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>>>> in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >>>>>> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of >>> Nottingham. >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>>>> your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>> legislation. >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >>> computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>> legislation. >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 9 11:33:04 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 11:33:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cd284a$b46289a0$1d279ce0$@co.uk> <4FA260CB.7090806@tor.nl> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there > are 5 exports: > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > look at that. > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > SCORM 1.2 > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > SCORM 2004 > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > Tom > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: >> I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. >> >> Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. >> >> Are these changes on the test server now? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, >> The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the >> export/download discussion. >> >> Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>> Hi >>> Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& >>> Friday... >>> >>> Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all >>> the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being >>> sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text >>> hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than >>> a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page >>> or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might >>> not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not >>> work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that >>> export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they >>> can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner >>> should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be >>> as a backup of the whole project. >>> >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>> >>> Fixes and additions for export >>> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language >>> folder >>> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those >>> models are used >>> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in >>> in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>> >>> >>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >>> >>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>> password in the database... ;-) >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >>> conflict. >>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>> >>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with >>>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>> legislation. >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed May 9 11:53:46 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 11:53:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing internally within a learning object to another page in that learning object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy it would work OK then it could be added later. I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag of Grain on one side of the river. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: > The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. > It?s disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be moved > on. Let?s leave this for another time. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 May 2012 10:17 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the time > to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as to how long > I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event didn't fire until > the array had completed being built, then I could remove the timer and the > delay would be reduced to the minimum required. > > > > In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be > insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully > available. > > > > I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript sorted > out and then post something for you to try out. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > Working fine here too > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > > Win 7 64bit > > IE 8.0 > > Chrome 18.0 > > Safari 5.1.5 > > Opera 10.60 > > Firefox 12.0 > > > > Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 05 May 2012 08:23 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and > after 1 second the menu page is opened) > > Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > > Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it > possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always > have them open at the title page. > > > > Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. > > > > Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If > you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will > overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection > will be lost. > > > > Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - > not Xerte. > > > > For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as > a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls > will not work). > > > > It should open at a title page. > > > > Then add to the url in your browser > > > > ?pageID=menu > > > > and press enter to reload the page. > > > > After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the > menu page. > > > > I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > > > > If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if > the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > > > > Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length > has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a > timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the > delay before redirection takes place. > > > > Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach > should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the > page information) > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 9 12:05:32 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:05:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep linking, i.e. ?pageID=321234524 But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and parked it. It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing internally within a learning object to another page in that learning object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy it would work OK then it could be added later. I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag of Grain on one side of the river. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be moved on. Let's leave this for another time. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully available. I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript sorted out and then post something for you to try out. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell > wrote: Working fine here too http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu Win 7 64bit IE 8.0 Chrome 18.0 Safari 5.1.5 Opera 10.60 Firefox 12.0 Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Hello Everyone, I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always have them open at the title page. Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection will be lost. Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - not Xerte. For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls will not work). It should open at a title page. Then add to the url in your browser ?pageID=menu and press enter to reload the page. After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the menu page. I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the page information) Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed May 9 12:23:32 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and not a pageID phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never sure what you meant. The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the learning object author. It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT then it would be more acceptable. I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always be guess work as to how short the delay can be. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote: > No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml ? you?ll have > seen it I?m sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep linking, > i.e. ?pageID=321234524 > > > > But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn?t and parked > it. It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the > delay, which I don?t think is acceptable to the end user. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 09 May 2012 11:54 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just as > easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage > > > > The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be > "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. > > > > It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing > internally within a learning object to another page in that learning > object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different learning > object, which you can do already using a URL. The only difference here was > that someone on one of the postings was lamenting the inability to open a > new learning object at a specific page. > > > > The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, did > not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am quite > happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy it would > work OK then it could be added later. > > > > I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right now I > am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier to > implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag of > Grain on one side of the river. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: > > The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. > It?s disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be moved > on. Let?s leave this for another time. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 May 2012 10:17 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the time > to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as to how long > I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event didn't fire until > the array had completed being built, then I could remove the timer and the > delay would be reduced to the minimum required. > > > > In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be > insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully > available. > > > > I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript sorted > out and then post something for you to try out. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > Working fine here too > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > > Win 7 64bit > > IE 8.0 > > Chrome 18.0 > > Safari 5.1.5 > > Opera 10.60 > > Firefox 12.0 > > > > Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 05 May 2012 08:23 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and > after 1 second the menu page is opened) > > Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > > Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it > possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always > have them open at the title page. > > > > Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. > > > > Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If > you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will > overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection > will be lost. > > > > Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - > not Xerte. > > > > For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as > a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls > will not work). > > > > It should open at a title page. > > > > Then add to the url in your browser > > > > ?pageID=menu > > > > and press enter to reload the page. > > > > After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the > menu page. > > > > I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > > > > If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if > the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > > > > Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length > has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a > timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the > delay before redirection takes place. > > > > Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach > should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the > page information) > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed May 9 13:07:55 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 08:07:55 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: References: , <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if the technical issues are addressed. Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files.It was used if you had a router style architecture. Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page.That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement and there's easier ways to accomplish those.And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across other nuggets.:-) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and not a pageID phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never sure what you meant. The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the learning object author. It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT then it would be more acceptable. I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always be guess work as to how short the delay can be. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote: No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml ? you?ll have seen it I?m sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep linking, i.e. ?pageID=321234524 But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn?t and parked it. It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the delay, which I don?t think is acceptable to the end user. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing internally within a learning object to another page in that learning object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy it would work OK then it could be added later. I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag of Grain on one side of the river. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. It?s disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be moved on. Let?s leave this for another time. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully available. I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript sorted out and then post something for you to try out. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: Working fine here too http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu Win 7 64bitIE 8.0 Chrome 18.0Safari 5.1.5 Opera 10.60Firefox 12.0 Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Hello Everyone, I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always have them open at the title page. Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection will be lost. Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - not Xerte. For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls will not work). It should open at a title page. Then add to the url in your browser ?pageID=menu and press enter to reload the page. After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the menu page. I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the page information) Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 9 19:47:38 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: References: , <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but useful on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when providing CPD support etc. So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when highlighting what's new in 1.8. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if the technical issues are addressed. Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. It was used if you had a router style architecture. Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement and there's easier ways to accomplish those. And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across other nuggets. :-) _____ Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and not a pageID phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never sure what you meant. The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the learning object author. It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT then it would be more acceptable. I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always be guess work as to how short the delay can be. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote: No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep linking, i.e. ?pageID=321234524 But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and parked it. It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing internally within a learning object to another page in that learning object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy it would work OK then it could be added later. I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag of Grain on one side of the river. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be moved on. Let's leave this for another time. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully available. I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript sorted out and then post something for you to try out. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: Working fine here too http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu Win 7 64bit IE 8.0 Chrome 18.0 Safari 5.1.5 Opera 10.60 Firefox 12.0 Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Hello Everyone, I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always have them open at the title page. Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection will be lost. Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - not Xerte. For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls will not work). It should open at a title page. Then add to the url in your browser ?pageID=menu and press enter to reload the page. After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the menu page. I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the page information) Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 9 19:56:43 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:56:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> Message-ID: could you not make it work by just making your work more granular? On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example of > possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected delegates > thought it very useful. In my experience it's something people have wanted > for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking to moodle resources, pages > with websites, specific blog posts etc and particularly in an FE and ACL > context and have often voiced frustration at not being able to do so with > Xerte LO's. There are limitations in having to say "follow this link to the > first page of this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such > a SFL etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in > another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many cases - > if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but useful on the > occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. > differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many occasions where > it would be useful to link to a specific page when providing CPD support > etc. > > > > So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that context > it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a satisfactory way > then I can see it being a very useful including the ability to link to new > page types within an updated 560 example when highlighting what's new in > 1.8. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > > > Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've real > doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if the technical > issues are addressed. > > > > Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. > > It was used if you had a router style architecture. > > > > Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. > > That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement and > there's easier ways to accomplish those. > > And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling module > (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. > > > > But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across other > nuggets. > > :-) > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and not a > pageID > > > > phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) > > > > I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never sure what > you meant. > > > > The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the learning > object author. > > > > It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT then > it would be more acceptable. > > > > I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of knowing > when the page array has been fully populated it will always be guess work as > to how short the delay can be. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote: > > No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml ? you?ll have seen > it I?m sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep linking, i.e. > ?pageID=321234524 > > > > But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn?t and parked it. > It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the delay, > which I don?t think is acceptable to the end user. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just as > easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage > > > > The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be > "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. > > > > It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing internally > within a learning object to another page in that learning object. It was > only intended to be a means of opening a different learning object, which > you can do already using a URL. The only difference here was that someone on > one of the postings was lamenting the inability to open a new learning > object at a specific page. > > > > The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, did not > suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am quite happy to > leave it out of this release as once people were happy it would work OK then > it could be added later. > > > > I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right now I > am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier to implement > scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag of Grain on one > side of the river. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: > > The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. > It?s disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be moved > on. Let?s leave this for another time. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the time to > build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as to how long I > need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event didn't fire until the > array had completed being built, then I could remove the timer and the delay > would be reduced to the minimum required. > > > > In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be > insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully > available. > > > > I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript sorted out > and then post something for you to try out. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > Working fine here too > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > > Win 7 64bit > > IE 8.0 > > Chrome 18.0 > > Safari 5.1.5 > > Opera 10.60 > > Firefox 12.0 > > > > Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and > after 1 second the menu page is opened) > > Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > > Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it > possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always have > them open at the title page. > > > > Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. > > > > Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If > you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will > overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection > will be lost. > > > > Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - > not Xerte. > > > > For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as a > trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls > will not work). > > > > It should open at a title page. > > > > Then add to the url in your browser > > > > ?pageID=menu > > > > and press enter to reload the page. > > > > After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the > menu page. > > > > I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > > > > If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if > the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > > > > Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length > has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a > timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the > delay before redirection takes place. > > > > Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach > should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the > page information) > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed May 9 20:01:48 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 15:01:48 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> References: , , <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> Message-ID: One objection: Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or exploratory material.They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to this blog post and continue the lesson from there". I see the use of being able to send a link via email.As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) Dave From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but useful on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when providing CPD support etc. So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when highlighting what's new in 1.8. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if the technical issues are addressed. Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files.It was used if you had a router style architecture. Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page.That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement and there's easier ways to accomplish those.And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across other nuggets.:-) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept testAccording to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and not a pageID phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never sure what you meant. The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the learning object author. It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT then it would be more acceptable. I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always be guess work as to how short the delay can be. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote:No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml ? you?ll have seen it I?m sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep linking, i.e. ?pageID=321234524 But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn?t and parked it. It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the delay, which I don?t think is acceptable to the end user. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing internally within a learning object to another page in that learning object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy it would work OK then it could be added later. I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag of Grain on one side of the river. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote:The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. It?s disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be moved on. Let?s leave this for another time. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully available. I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript sorted out and then post something for you to try out. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote:Working fine here too http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menuWin 7 64bitIE 8.0Chrome 18.0Safari 5.1.5Opera 10.60Firefox 12.0 Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Hello Everyone, I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always have them open at the title page. Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection will be lost. Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - not Xerte. For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls will not work). It should open at a title page. Then add to the url in your browser ?pageID=menu and press enter to reload the page. After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the menu page. I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the page information) Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 9 20:05:08 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 20:05:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> Message-ID: i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > One objection: > Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, specific > blog posts etc"?are support materials correct? > > So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or exploratory > material. > They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to this > blog post and continue the lesson from there". > > I see the use of being able to send a link via email. > As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) > > Dave > > > > ________________________________ > From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example of > possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected delegates > thought it very useful. In my experience it's something people have wanted > for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking to moodle resources, pages > with websites, specific blog posts etc and particularly in an FE and ACL > context and have often voiced frustration at not being able to do so with > Xerte LO's. There are limitations in having to say "follow this link to the > first page of this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such > a SFL etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in > another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many cases - > if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but useful on the > occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. > differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many occasions where > it would be useful to link to a specific page when providing CPD support > etc. > > > > So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that context > it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a satisfactory way > then I can see it being a very useful including the ability to link to new > page types within an updated 560 example when highlighting what's new in > 1.8. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > > > Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've real > doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if the technical > issues are addressed. > > > > Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. > > It was used if you had a router style architecture. > > > > Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. > > That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement and > there's easier ways to accomplish those. > > And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling module > (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. > > > > But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across other > nuggets. > > :-) > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and not a > pageID > > > > phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) > > > > I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never sure what > you meant. > > > > The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the learning > object author. > > > > It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT then > it would be more acceptable. > > > > I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of knowing > when the page array has been fully populated it will always be guess work as > to how short the delay can be. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote: > > No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml ? you?ll have seen > it I?m sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep linking, i.e. > ?pageID=321234524 > > > > But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn?t and parked it. > It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the delay, > which I don?t think is acceptable to the end user. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just as > easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage > > > > The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be > "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. > > > > It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing internally > within a learning object to another page in that learning object. It was > only intended to be a means of opening a different learning object, which > you can do already using a URL. The only difference here was that someone on > one of the postings was lamenting the inability to open a new learning > object at a specific page. > > > > The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, did not > suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am quite happy to > leave it out of this release as once people were happy it would work OK then > it could be added later. > > > > I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right now I > am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier to implement > scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag of Grain on one > side of the river. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: > > The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. > It?s disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be moved > on. Let?s leave this for another time. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the time to > build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as to how long I > need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event didn't fire until the > array had completed being built, then I could remove the timer and the delay > would be reduced to the minimum required. > > > > In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be > insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully > available. > > > > I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript sorted out > and then post something for you to try out. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > Working fine here too > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > > Win 7 64bit > > IE 8.0 > > Chrome 18.0 > > Safari 5.1.5 > > Opera 10.60 > > Firefox 12.0 > > > > Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and > after 1 second the menu page is opened) > > Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > > Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it > possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always have > them open at the title page. > > > > Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. > > > > Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If > you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will > overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection > will be lost. > > > > Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser - > not Xerte. > > > > For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as a > trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls > will not work). > > > > It should open at a title page. > > > > Then add to the url in your browser > > > > ?pageID=menu > > > > and press enter to reload the page. > > > > After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the > menu page. > > > > I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > > > > If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if > the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > > > > Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length > has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a > timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the > delay before redirection takes place. > > > > Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach > should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the > page information) > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 9 20:24:00 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 20:24:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> Message-ID: <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk> firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with pdf's http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when the deep link is an individualised point in time reference rather than needing to be a permalink etc. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > One objection: > Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, > specific blog posts etc"?are support materials correct? > > So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or > exploratory material. > They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to > this blog post and continue the lesson from there". > > I see the use of being able to send a link via email. > As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) > > Dave > > > > ________________________________ > From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example of > possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected > delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something > people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking to > moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and > particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced > frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are > limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of > this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL > etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in > another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many > cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but useful on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. > differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many occasions > where it would be useful to link to a specific page when providing CPD > support etc. > > > > So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that > context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a > satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the > ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when > highlighting what's new in 1.8. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > > > Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've > real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if the > technical issues are addressed. > > > > Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. > > It was used if you had a router style architecture. > > > > Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. > > That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement > and there's easier ways to accomplish those. > > And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling > module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. > > > > But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across other > nuggets. > > :-) > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and > not a pageID > > > > phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) > > > > I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never sure > what you meant. > > > > The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the learning > object author. > > > > It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT > then it would be more acceptable. > > > > I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of > knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always be > guess work as to how short the delay can be. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote: > > No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml ? you?ll > have seen it I?m sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep linking, i.e. > ?pageID=321234524 > > > > But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn?t and parked it. > It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the > delay, which I don?t think is acceptable to the end user. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just > as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage > > > > The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be > "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. > > > > It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing > internally within a learning object to another page in that learning > object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different > learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only > difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting > the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. > > > > The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, > did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am > quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy > it would work OK then it could be added later. > > > > I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right > now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier > to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag > of Grain on one side of the river. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: > > The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. > It?s disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be > moved on. Let?s leave this for another time. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the > time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as > to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event > didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could > remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. > > > > In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be > insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully > available. > > > > I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript > sorted out and then post something for you to try out. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > Working fine here too > http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > > Win 7 64bit > > IE 8.0 > > Chrome 18.0 > > Safari 5.1.5 > > Opera 10.60 > > Firefox 12.0 > > > > Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown > and after 1 second the menu page is opened) > > Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > > Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making > it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than > always have them open at the title page. > > > > Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. > > > > Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) > If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js > will overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the > redirection will be lost. > > > > Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web > browser - not Xerte. > > > > For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place > it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise > javascript calls will not work). > > > > It should open at a title page. > > > > Then add to the url in your browser > > > > ?pageID=menu > > > > and press enter to reload the page. > > > > After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to > the menu page. > > > > I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > > > > If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know > if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > > > > Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because > rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit > event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for > the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. > > > > Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach > should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source > the page information) > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 9 20:53:34 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 20:53:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk> Message-ID: Well you could do it on page title? if(startpage){ Cover LO while LO loads move to startpage uncover LO } On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build one > big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a relatively small > LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest would > be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 ?or just #page=5 to > link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with pdf's > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are moved > around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the author > would know the implications of that and re-send or update the deep link if > pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be sending deep links to > established resources unlikely to change or when the deep link is an > individualised point inWel time reference rather than needing to be a permalink > etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > wrote: >> >> One objection: >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, >> specific blog posts etc"?are support materials correct? >> >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or >> exploratory material. >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". >> >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example of >> possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking to >> moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but useful > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many occasions >> where it would be useful to link to a specific page when providing CPD >> support etc. >> >> >> >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> >> >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if the >> technical issues are addressed. >> >> >> >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. >> >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. >> >> >> >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. >> >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. >> >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. >> >> >> >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across other >> nuggets. >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and >> not a pageID >> >> >> >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) >> >> >> >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never sure >> what you meant. >> >> >> >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the learning >> object author. >> >> >> >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT >> then it would be more acceptable. >> >> >> >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always be >> guess work as to how short the delay can be. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml ? you?ll >> have seen it I?m sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > linking, i.e. >> ?pageID=321234524 >> >> >> >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn?t and parked > it. >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the >> delay, which I don?t think is acceptable to the end user. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage >> >> >> >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be >> "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. >> >> >> >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. >> >> >> >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy >> it would work OK then it could be added later. >> >> >> >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag >> of Grain on one side of the river. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. >> It?s disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be >> moved on. Let?s leave this for another time. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. >> >> >> >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully >> available. >> >> >> >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> Working fine here too >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu >> >> Win 7 64bit >> >> IE 8.0 >> >> Chrome 18.0 >> >> Safari 5.1.5 >> >> Opera 10.60 >> >> Firefox 12.0 >> >> >> >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown >> and after 1 second the menu page is opened) >> >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 >> >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than >> always have them open at the title page. >> >> >> >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. >> >> >> >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) >> If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js >> will overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the >> redirection will be lost. >> >> >> >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web >> browser - not Xerte. >> >> >> >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise >> javascript calls will not work). >> >> >> >> It should open at a title page. >> >> >> >> Then add to the url in your browser >> >> >> >> ?pageID=menu >> >> >> >> and press enter to reload the page. >> >> >> >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to >> the menu page. >> >> >> >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. >> >> >> >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know >> if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, >> >> >> >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because >> rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit >> event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for >> the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. >> >> >> >> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach >> should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source >> the page information) >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed May 9 21:15:55 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 16:15:55 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: References: , <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk>, , , <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk>, Message-ID: Absolutely.AW had a very ugly loading screen so I would set the embedding div height to 0 until a js function call on page 1 set it to the correct size. > Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 20:53:34 +0100 > From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Well you could do it on page title? > > if(startpage){ > > Cover LO while LO loads > move to startpage > uncover LO > > } > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build one > > big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a relatively small > > LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest would > > be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or just #page=5 to > > link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with pdf's > > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are moved > > around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the author > > would know the implications of that and re-send or update the deep link if > > pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be sending deep links to > > established resources unlikely to change or when the deep link is an > > individualised point inWel time reference rather than needing to be a permalink > > etc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > > wrote: > >> > >> One objection: > >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, > >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? > >> > >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or > >> exploratory material. > >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to > >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". > >> > >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. > >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 > >> > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example of > >> possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected > >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something > >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking to > >> moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and > >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced > >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are > >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of > >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL > >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in > >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many > >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but useful > > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. > >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example > >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many occasions > >> where it would be useful to link to a specific page when providing CPD > >> support etc. > >> > >> > >> > >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that > >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a > >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the > >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when > >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > >> Burnett > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've > >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if the > >> technical issues are addressed. > >> > >> > >> > >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. > >> > >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. > >> > >> > >> > >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. > >> > >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement > >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. > >> > >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling > >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. > >> > >> > >> > >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across other > >> nuggets. > >> > >> :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 > >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and > >> not a pageID > >> > >> > >> > >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never sure > >> what you meant. > >> > >> > >> > >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the learning > >> object author. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT > >> then it would be more acceptable. > >> > >> > >> > >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of > >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always be > >> guess work as to how short the delay can be. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> > >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml ? you?ll > >> have seen it I?m sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > > linking, i.e. > >> ?pageID=321234524 > >> > >> > >> > >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn?t and parked > > it. > >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the > >> delay, which I don?t think is acceptable to the end user. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just > >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage > >> > >> > >> > >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be > >> "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing > >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning > >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different > >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only > >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting > >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. > >> > >> > >> > >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, > >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am > >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy > >> it would work OK then it could be added later. > >> > >> > >> > >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right > >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier > >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag > >> of Grain on one side of the river. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> > >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. > >> It?s disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be > >> moved on. Let?s leave this for another time. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the > >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as > >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event > >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could > >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. > >> > >> > >> > >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be > >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully > >> available. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript > >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: > >> > >> Working fine here too > >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > >> > >> Win 7 64bit > >> > >> IE 8.0 > >> > >> Chrome 18.0 > >> > >> Safari 5.1.5 > >> > >> Opera 10.60 > >> > >> Firefox 12.0 > >> > >> > >> > >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > >> Reijnders > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown > >> and after 1 second the menu page is opened) > >> > >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > >> > >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > >> > >> Hello Everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making > >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than > >> always have them open at the title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. > >> > >> > >> > >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) > >> If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js > >> will overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the > >> redirection will be lost. > >> > >> > >> > >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web > >> browser - not Xerte. > >> > >> > >> > >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place > >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise > >> javascript calls will not work). > >> > >> > >> > >> It should open at a title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Then add to the url in your browser > >> > >> > >> > >> ?pageID=menu > >> > >> > >> > >> and press enter to reload the page. > >> > >> > >> > >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to > >> the menu page. > >> > >> > >> > >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > >> > >> > >> > >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know > >> if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > >> > >> > >> > >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because > >> rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit > >> event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for > >> the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. > >> > >> > >> > >> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach > >> should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source > >> the page information) > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > >> this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 10 09:16:21 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:16:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Well you could do it on page title? if(startpage){ Cover LO while LO loads move to startpage uncover LO } On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build one > big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a relatively small > LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest would > be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or just #page=5 to > link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with pdf's > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are moved > around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the author > would know the implications of that and re-send or update the deep link if > pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be sending deep links to > established resources unlikely to change or when the deep link is an > individualised point inWel time reference rather than needing to be a permalink > etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > wrote: >> >> One objection: >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? >> >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or >> exploratory material. >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". >> >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example of >> possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking to >> moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but useful > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many occasions >> where it would be useful to link to a specific page when providing CPD >> support etc. >> >> >> >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> >> >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if the >> technical issues are addressed. >> >> >> >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. >> >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. >> >> >> >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. >> >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. >> >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. >> >> >> >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across other >> nuggets. >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and >> not a pageID >> >> >> >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) >> >> >> >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never sure >> what you meant. >> >> >> >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the learning >> object author. >> >> >> >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT >> then it would be more acceptable. >> >> >> >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always be >> guess work as to how short the delay can be. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml ? you?ll >> have seen it I?m sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > linking, i.e. >> ?pageID=321234524 >> >> >> >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn?t and parked > it. >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the >> delay, which I don?t think is acceptable to the end user. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage >> >> >> >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be >> "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. >> >> >> >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. >> >> >> >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy >> it would work OK then it could be added later. >> >> >> >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag >> of Grain on one side of the river. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. >> It?s disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be >> moved on. Let?s leave this for another time. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. >> >> >> >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully >> available. >> >> >> >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> Working fine here too >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu >> >> Win 7 64bit >> >> IE 8.0 >> >> Chrome 18.0 >> >> Safari 5.1.5 >> >> Opera 10.60 >> >> Firefox 12.0 >> >> >> >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown >> and after 1 second the menu page is opened) >> >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 >> >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than >> always have them open at the title page. >> >> >> >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. >> >> >> >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) >> If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js >> will overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the >> redirection will be lost. >> >> >> >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web >> browser - not Xerte. >> >> >> >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise >> javascript calls will not work). >> >> >> >> It should open at a title page. >> >> >> >> Then add to the url in your browser >> >> >> >> ?pageID=menu >> >> >> >> and press enter to reload the page. >> >> >> >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to >> the menu page. >> >> >> >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. >> >> >> >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know >> if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, >> >> >> >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 10 09:42:01 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 10:42:01 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > Yep. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys > last week... :-) > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? >> >> Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. >> >> I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there >> are 5 exports: >> >> Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or >> mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to >> look at that. >> >> Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls >> >> SCORM 1.2 >> >> SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data >> >> SCORM 2004 >> >> >> As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use >> SCORM with extra MetaData) >> >> Tom >> >> Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. >>> >>> Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. >>> >>> Are these changes on the test server now? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>> Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >>> >>> That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, >>> The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the >>> export/download discussion. >>> >>> Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>> Hi >>>> Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& >>>> Friday... >>>> >>>> Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all >>>> the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being >>>> sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text >>>> hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than >>>> a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page >>>> or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might >>>> not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not >>>> work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that >>>> export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they >>>> can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner >>>> should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be >>>> as a backup of the whole project. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >>>> >>>> I just committed an update to the export code: >>>> >>>> Fixes and additions for export >>>> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language >>>> folder >>>> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >>>> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those >>>> models are used >>>> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >>>> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >>>> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >>>> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >>>> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in >>>> in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >>>> >>>> >>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >>>> >>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >>>> password in the database... ;-) >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >>>> conflict. >>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>> I will, but they are really simple. >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >>>>>>> might have hungry regexs? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: gfebdfcj.png Type: image/png Size: 66456 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu May 10 10:09:41 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 10:09:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> > and there's still a bit to do < On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: deleting unused media not working export not including language folder and files I know the language functionality is still under development but just a note that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. Perhaps it should always be available? Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Well you could do it on page title? if(startpage){ Cover LO while LO loads move to startpage uncover LO } On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build > one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a > relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest > would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or > just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with > pdf's > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are > moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the > author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the > deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be > sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when > the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather > than needing to be a permalink etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > wrote: >> >> One objection: >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? >> >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or >> exploratory material. >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". >> >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example >> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking >> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but >> useful > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many >> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when >> providing CPD support etc. >> >> >> >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> >> >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if >> the technical issues are addressed. >> >> >> >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. >> >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. >> >> >> >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. >> >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. >> >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. >> >> >> >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across >> other nuggets. >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and >> not a pageID >> >> >> >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) >> >> >> >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never >> sure what you meant. >> >> >> >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the >> learning object author. >> >> >> >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT >> then it would be more acceptable. >> >> >> >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always >> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll >> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > linking, i.e. >> ?pageID=321234524 >> >> >> >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and >> parked > it. >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the >> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage >> >> >> >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to >> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. >> >> >> >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. >> >> >> >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy >> it would work OK then it could be added later. >> >> >> >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the >> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. >> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be >> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. >> >> >> >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully >> available. >> >> >> >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> Working fine here too >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu >> >> Win 7 64bit >> >> IE 8.0 >> >> Chrome 18.0 >> >> Safari 5.1.5 >> >> Opera 10.60 >> >> Firefox 12.0 >> >> >> >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is >> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) >> >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 >> >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than >> always have them open at the title page. >> >> >> >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. >> >> >> >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing >> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of >> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that >> supports the redirection will be lost. >> >> >> >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web >> browser - not Xerte. >> >> >> >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise >> javascript calls will not work). >> >> >> >> It should open at a title page. >> >> >> >> Then add to the url in your browser >> >> >> >> ?pageID=menu >> >> >> >> and press enter to reload the page. >> >> >> >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page >> to the menu page. >> >> >> >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. >> >> >> >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to >> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, >> >> >> >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because >> rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit >> event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for >> the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. >> >> >> >> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same >> approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array >> to source the page information) >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 10 10:17:04 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 11:17:04 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FAB8790.3040708@tor.nl> export SHOULD include language folder and files now. (committed that last week) Op 10-5-2012 11:09, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> and there's still a bit to do< > On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files > but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server > overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. > > I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: > > deleting unused media not working > > export not including language folder and files > > I know the language functionality is still under development but just a note > that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu > doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. Perhaps > it should always be available? > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. > > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and > there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Well you could do it on page title? > > if(startpage){ > > Cover LO while LO loads > move to startpage > uncover LO > > } > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build >> one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a >> relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. >> >> It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest >> would be if authors could simply append something like&page=5 or >> just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with >> pdf's >> http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 >> >> Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are >> moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the >> author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the >> deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be >> sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when >> the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather >> than needing to be a permalink etc. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett >> wrote: >>> One objection: >>> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, >>> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? >>> >>> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or >>> exploratory material. >>> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to >>> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". >>> >>> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. >>> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 >>> >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example >>> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected >>> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something >>> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking >>> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and >>> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced >>> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are >>> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of >>> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL >>> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in >>> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many >>> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but >>> useful >> on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. >>> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example >>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many >>> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when >>> providing CPD support etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that >>> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a >>> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the >>> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when >>> highlighting what's new in 1.8. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >>> Burnett >>> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 >>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've >>> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if >>> the technical issues are addressed. >>> >>> >>> >>> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. >>> >>> It was used if you had a router style architecture. >>> >>> >>> >>> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. >>> >>> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement >>> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. >>> >>> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling >>> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. >>> >>> >>> >>> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across >>> other nuggets. >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 >>> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and >>> not a pageID >>> >>> >>> >>> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never >>> sure what you meant. >>> >>> >>> >>> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the >>> learning object author. >>> >>> >>> >>> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT >>> then it would be more acceptable. >>> >>> >>> >>> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of >>> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always >>> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney > wrote: >>> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll >>> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep >> linking, i.e. >>> ?pageID=321234524 >>> >>> >>> >>> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and >>> parked >> it. >>> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the >>> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 >>> >>> >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> >>> >>> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just >>> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage >>> >>> >>> >>> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to >>> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing >>> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning >>> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different >>> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only >>> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting >>> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. >>> >>> >>> >>> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, >>> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am >>> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy >>> it would work OK then it could be added later. >>> >>> >>> >>> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right >>> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier >>> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the >>> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: >>> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. >>> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be >>> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 >>> >>> >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> >>> >>> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the >>> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as >>> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event >>> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could >>> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. >>> >>> >>> >>> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be >>> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully >>> available. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript >>> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: >>> >>> Working fine here too >>> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu >>> >>> Win 7 64bit >>> >>> IE 8.0 >>> >>> Chrome 18.0 >>> >>> Safari 5.1.5 >>> >>> Opera 10.60 >>> >>> Firefox 12.0 >>> >>> >>> >>> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> >>> >>> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is >>> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) >>> >>> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 >>> >>> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making >>> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than >>> always have them open at the title page. >>> >>> >>> >>> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. >>> >>> >>> >>> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing >>> it!) 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Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu May 10 10:26:53 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 10:26:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <4FAB8790.3040708@tor.nl> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> <4FAB8790.3040708@tor.nl> Message-ID: <005701cd2e8f$0d8cba60$28a62f20$@co.uk> Not sure why it isn't working Tom but it isn't and all the code from the svn is definitely in place. Anything I can look for to see why it's not working? It's simply not including the language folder at all. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 10:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test export SHOULD include language folder and files now. (committed that last week) Op 10-5-2012 11:09, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> and there's still a bit to do< > On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new > files but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test > server overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. > > I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: > > deleting unused media not working > > export not including language folder and files > > I know the language functionality is still under development but just > a note that using either guest or moodle integration the language > selection menu doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when > auto logged in. Perhaps it should always be available? > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. > > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and > there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Well you could do it on page title? > > if(startpage){ > > Cover LO while LO loads > move to startpage > uncover LO > > } > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build >> one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a >> relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. >> >> It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the >> simplest would be if authors could simply append something >> like&page=5 or just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what >> you can do with pdf's >> http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 >> >> Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are >> moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - >> the author would know the implications of that and re-send or update >> the deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be >> sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or >> when the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference >> rather than needing to be a permalink etc. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett >> wrote: >>> One objection: >>> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, >>> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? >>> >>> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or >>> exploratory material. >>> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to >>> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". >>> >>> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. >>> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 >>> >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example >>> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected >>> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something >>> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking >>> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc >>> and particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced >>> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are >>> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of >>> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL >>> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in >>> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many >>> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but >>> useful >> on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. >>> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example >>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many >>> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when >>> providing CPD support etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that >>> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a >>> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the >>> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when >>> highlighting what's new in 1.8. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >>> Burnett >>> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 >>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, >>> I've real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even >>> if the technical issues are addressed. >>> >>> >>> >>> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. >>> >>> It was used if you had a router style architecture. >>> >>> >>> >>> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. >>> >>> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement >>> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. >>> >>> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling >>> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. >>> >>> >>> >>> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across >>> other nuggets. >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 >>> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and >>> not a pageID >>> >>> >>> >>> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never >>> sure what you meant. >>> >>> >>> >>> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the >>> learning object author. >>> >>> >>> >>> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in >>> XOT then it would be more acceptable. >>> >>> >>> >>> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of >>> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always >>> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney > wrote: >>> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll >>> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep >> linking, i.e. >>> ?pageID=321234524 >>> >>> >>> >>> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and >>> parked >> it. >>> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the >>> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 >>> >>> >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> >>> >>> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could >>> just as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage >>> >>> >>> >>> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to >>> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing >>> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning >>> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different >>> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only >>> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was >>> lamenting the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. >>> >>> >>> >>> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, >>> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I >>> am quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were >>> happy it would work OK then it could be added later. >>> >>> >>> >>> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right >>> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it >>> easier to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox >>> and the Bag of Grain on one side of the river. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: >>> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. >>> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be >>> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 >>> >>> >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> >>> >>> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the >>> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as >>> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event >>> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could >>> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. >>> >>> >>> >>> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be >>> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully >>> available. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript >>> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: >>> >>> Working fine here too >>> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu >>> >>> Win 7 64bit >>> >>> IE 8.0 >>> >>> Chrome 18.0 >>> >>> Safari 5.1.5 >>> >>> Opera 10.60 >>> >>> Firefox 12.0 >>> >>> >>> >>> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> >>> >>> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is >>> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) >>> >>> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 >>> >>> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of >>> making it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, >>> rather than always have them open at the title page. >>> >>> >>> >>> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. >>> >>> >>> >>> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing >>> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of >>> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that >>> supports the redirection will be lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web >>> browser - not Xerte. >>> >>> >>> >>> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place >>> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise >>> javascript calls will not work). >>> >>> >>> >>> It should open at a title page. >>> >>> >>> >>> Then add to the url in your browser >>> >>> >>> >>> ?pageID=menu >>> >>> >>> >>> and press enter to reload the page. >>> >>> >>> >>> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page >>> to the menu page. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. >>> >>> >>> >>> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to >>> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, >>> >>> >>> >>> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a >>> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the >>> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because >>> rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit >>> event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for >>> the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. >>> >>> >>> >>> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same >>> approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array >>> to source the page information) >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications >>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>> UK >> legislation. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 10 10:36:16 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 11:36:16 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <005701cd2e8f$0d8cba60$28a62f20$@co.uk> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> <4FAB8790.3040708@tor.nl> <005701cd2e8f$0d8cba60$28a62f20$@c o.uk> Message-ID: <4FAB8C10.2000807@tor.nl> I'll have a look a.s.a.p. Op 10-5-2012 11:26, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Not sure why it isn't working Tom but it isn't and all the code from the svn > is definitely in place. > > Anything I can look for to see why it's not working? It's simply not > including the language folder at all. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 10:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > export SHOULD include language folder and files now. (committed that last > week) > > Op 10-5-2012 11:09, Ron Mitchell schreef: >>> and there's still a bit to do< >> On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new >> files but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test >> server overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and > index.php. >> I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: >> >> deleting unused media not working >> >> export not including language folder and files >> >> I know the language functionality is still under development but just >> a note that using either guest or moodle integration the language >> selection menu doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when >> auto logged in. Perhaps it should always be available? >> >> Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they > are. >> Ron >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and >> there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >> Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> Well you could do it on page title? >> >> if(startpage){ >> >> Cover LO while LO loads >> move to startpage >> uncover LO >> >> } >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell >> wrote: >>> firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build >>> one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a >>> relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. >>> >>> It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the >>> simplest would be if authors could simply append something >>> like&page=5 or just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what >>> you can do with pdf's >>> http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 >>> >>> Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are >>> moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - >>> the author would know the implications of that and re-send or update >>> the deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be >>> sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or >>> when the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference >>> rather than needing to be a permalink etc. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>> >>> i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? >>> >>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett >>> wrote: >>>> One objection: >>>> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, >>>> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? >>>> >>>> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or >>>> exploratory material. >>>> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to >>>> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". >>>> >>>> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. >>>> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 >>>> >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>>> >>>> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example >>>> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected >>>> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something >>>> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking >>>> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc >>>> and particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced >>>> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are >>>> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of >>>> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL >>>> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in >>>> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many >>>> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but >>>> useful >>> on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. >>>> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example >>>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many >>>> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when >>>> providing CPD support etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that >>>> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a >>>> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the >>>> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when >>>> highlighting what's new in 1.8. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >>>> Burnett >>>> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 >>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, >>>> I've real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even >>>> if the technical issues are addressed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. >>>> >>>> It was used if you had a router style architecture. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. >>>> >>>> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement >>>> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. >>>> >>>> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling >>>> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across >>>> other nuggets. >>>> >>>> :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 >>>> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>>> >>>> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and >>>> not a pageID >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never >>>> sure what you meant. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the >>>> learning object author. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in >>>> XOT then it would be more acceptable. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of >>>> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always >>>> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>>> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll >>>> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep >>> linking, i.e. >>>> ?pageID=321234524 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and >>>> parked >>> it. >>>> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the >>>> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>> Johnathan >>>> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 >>>> >>>> >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could >>>> just as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to >>>> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing >>>> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning >>>> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different >>>> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only >>>> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was >>>> lamenting the inability to open a new learning object at a specific > page. >>>> >>>> >>>> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, >>>> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I >>>> am quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were >>>> happy it would work OK then it could be added later. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right >>>> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it >>>> easier to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox >>>> and the Bag of Grain on one side of the river. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>>> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last > time. >>>> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be >>>> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>> Johnathan >>>> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 >>>> >>>> >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the >>>> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as >>>> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event >>>> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could >>>> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be >>>> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully >>>> available. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript >>>> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: >>>> >>>> Working fine here too >>>> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu >>>> >>>> Win 7 64bit >>>> >>>> IE 8.0 >>>> >>>> Chrome 18.0 >>>> >>>> Safari 5.1.5 >>>> >>>> Opera 10.60 >>>> >>>> Firefox 12.0 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is >>>> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) >>>> >>>> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 >>>> >>>> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>> >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of >>>> making it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, >>>> rather than always have them open at the title page. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing >>>> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of >>>> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that >>>> supports the redirection will be lost. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web >>>> browser - not Xerte. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place >>>> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise >>>> javascript calls will not work). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It should open at a title page. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Then add to the url in your browser >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ?pageID=menu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> and press enter to reload the page. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page >>>> to the menu page. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to >>>> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a >>>> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the >>>> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because >>>> rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit >>>> event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for >>>> the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same >>>> approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array >>>> to source the page information) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 10 14:17:08 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:17:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. This is a question we need to nail down. AFAIK, the one source is the models folder in xerte svn\pageWizards\models, so these are the files we should be modifying / fixing and then copying to toolkits. Whether or not they contain all changes to the files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models I am not sure. Jonathan? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 10:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > and there's still a bit to do < On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: deleting unused media not working export not including language folder and files I know the language functionality is still under development but just a note that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. Perhaps it should always be available? Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Well you could do it on page title? if(startpage){ Cover LO while LO loads move to startpage uncover LO } On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build > one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a > relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest > would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or > just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with > pdf's > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are > moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the > author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the > deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be > sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when > the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather > than needing to be a permalink etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > wrote: >> >> One objection: >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? >> >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or >> exploratory material. >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". >> >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example >> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking >> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but >> useful > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many >> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when >> providing CPD support etc. >> >> >> >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> >> >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if >> the technical issues are addressed. >> >> >> >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. >> >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. >> >> >> >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. >> >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. >> >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. >> >> >> >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across >> other nuggets. >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and >> not a pageID >> >> >> >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) >> >> >> >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never >> sure what you meant. >> >> >> >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the >> learning object author. >> >> >> >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT >> then it would be more acceptable. >> >> >> >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always >> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll >> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > linking, i.e. >> ?pageID=321234524 >> >> >> >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and >> parked > it. >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the >> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage >> >> >> >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to >> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. >> >> >> >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. >> >> >> >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy >> it would work OK then it could be added later. >> >> >> >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the >> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. >> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be >> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. >> >> >> >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully >> available. >> >> >> >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> Working fine here too >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu >> >> Win 7 64bit >> >> IE 8.0 >> >> Chrome 18.0 >> >> Safari 5.1.5 >> >> Opera 10.60 >> >> Firefox 12.0 >> >> >> >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is >> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) >> >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 >> >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than >> always have them open at the title page. >> >> >> >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. >> >> >> >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing >> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of >> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that >> supports the redirection will be lost. >> >> >> >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web >> browser - not Xerte. >> >> >> >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise >> javascript calls will not work). >> >> >> >> It should open at a title page. >> >> >> >> Then add to the url in your browser >> >> >> >> ?pageID=menu >> >> >> >> and press enter to reload the page. >> >> >> >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page >> to the menu page. >> >> >> >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. >> >> >> >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to >> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, >> >> >> >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because >> rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit >> event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for >> the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. >> >> >> >> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same >> approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array >> to source the page information) >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 10 14:31:56 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:31:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA26317.8000703@tor.nl> <4FA26931.4010301@tor.nl> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) [cid:image001.png at 01CD2EB8.205DF0E0] Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 66456 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 10 17:49:55 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 18:49:55 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so > it might read: > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some > explanation around option 3 here]. > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 09:42 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys > last week... :-) > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language > > folder > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those > > models are used > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted > > thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a > > password in the database... ;-) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: > > i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might > > conflict. > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > I will, but they are really simple. > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: > > Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones > > might have hungry regexs? > > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin > > wrote: > > On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: > > > > i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers > > Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) > > > > David. > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 66456 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 10 19:59:08 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:59:08 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl> How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > it is doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I >> might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, >> so it might read: >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is >> packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with >> another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM >> compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the >> project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some >> explanation around option 3 here]. >> >> Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project >> >> Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project >> >> Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda >> >> If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM >> 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM >> you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. >> >> Export Scorm 1.2 Package >> >> Scorm 2004 Package. >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the >> point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom >> Reijnders >> *Sent:* 10 May 2012 09:42 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Yep. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys >> last week... :-) >> >> I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the >> functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? >> >> Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? >> >> >> >> Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. >> >> >> >> I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> >> Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there >> >> are 5 exports: >> >> >> >> Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or >> >> mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to >> >> look at that. >> >> >> >> Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls >> >> >> >> SCORM 1.2 >> >> >> >> SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data >> >> >> >> SCORM 2004 >> >> >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use >> >> SCORM with extra MetaData) >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. >> >> >> >> Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. >> >> >> >> Are these changes on the test server now? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> >> Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, >> >> The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the >> >> export/download discussion. >> >> >> >> Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Hi >> >> Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& >> >> Friday... >> >> >> >> Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all >> >> the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being >> >> sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text >> >> hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than >> >> a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page >> >> or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might >> >> not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not >> >> work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that >> >> export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they >> >> can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner >> >> should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be >> >> as a backup of the whole project. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> >> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> I just committed an update to the export code: >> >> >> >> Fixes and additions for export >> >> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language >> >> folder >> >> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >> >> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those >> >> models are used >> >> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >> >> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >> >> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >> >> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >> >> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in >> >> in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >> >> >> >> >> >> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >> >> >> >> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted >> >> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >> >> password in the database... ;-) >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >> >> conflict. >> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> >> I will, but they are really simple. >> >> >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >> >> might have hungry regexs? >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >> >> wrote: >> >> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >> >> >> >> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >> >> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >> >> >> >> David. >> >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: ieggffbc.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 10 20:08:36 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 21:08:36 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) Message-ID: <4FAC1234.2080708@tor.nl> I committed my latest code that at least works here. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu May 10 20:09:24 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:09:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl> Message-ID: <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c30$43141490$@co.uk> That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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It's on the test install now for others to try. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I committed my latest code that at least works here. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu May 10 20:24:43 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:24:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c30$43141490$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA26AC8.50900@tor.nl> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl> <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> Message-ID: <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 10 20:27:00 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 21:27:00 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:09 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 19:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > it is doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so > it might read: > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some > explanation around option 3 here]. > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 09:42 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys > last week... :-) > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language > > folder > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those > > models are used > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted > > thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a > > password in the database... ;-) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: > > i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might > > conflict. > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > I will, but they are really simple. > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: > > Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones > > might have hungry regexs? > > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin > > wrote: > > On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: > > > > i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers > > Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) > > > > David. > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu May 10 21:03:52 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 21:03:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> Message-ID: <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 10 21:18:39 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 22:18:39 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Have committed that small mod. > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder > but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota > to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a > different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I > guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert > the links to local links if the same lo. > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the > moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported > with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but > then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the > file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even > though it is uploaded. > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:09 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 19:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > it is doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so > it might read: > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some > explanation around option 3 here]. > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 09:42 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys > last week... :-) > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language > > folder > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those > > models are used > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted > > thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a > > password in the database... ;-) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: > > i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might > > conflict. > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > I will, but they are really simple. > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: > > Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones > > might have hungry regexs? > > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin > > wrote: > > On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: > > > > i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers > > Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) > > > > David. > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu May 10 21:23:46 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 21:23:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f 01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> Message-ID: <013b01cd2eea$cf9e1080$6eda3180$@co.uk> Just found the issue with export options 2 and 3 not opening correctly in Xerte - the .xwd isn't being exported whereas it is with export option 1. Is that something you can replicate and fix Tom? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:04 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu May 10 21:43:44 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 21:43:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> Message-ID: <015301cd2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 10 21:58:48 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 22:58:48 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <015301cd2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301cd2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FAC2C08.9090503@tor.nl> The reason I did this is that the overhead seems to become to big. The support files (xwd, models, thumbs) together is almost 2.2Mb Certainly for SCORM if you have an VLE where you have to pay for the disk storage that adds up. What we could do is change the setup: Have 3 options: Export zip Export SCORM 1.2 package Export SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. package and then have 2 checkboxes: 1. Full 2. Change URL of local media to local With the defaults being 1 toggled on, 2 toggled off (i.e. as close as possible to the current exports) Op 10-5-2012 22:43, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever > zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media > in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of > not including the files required to edit unless including them causes > a problem? > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe > keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have > to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously > the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this > context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files > required to edit as part of all the exports? > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to > local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how > to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if > there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload > to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. > This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place > so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or > localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 21:19 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. > The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... > and then get rid of option 3. > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Have committed that small mod. > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder > but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota > to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a > different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I > guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert > the links to local links if the same lo. > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the > moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported > with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but > then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the > file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even > though it is uploaded. > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:09 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 19:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > it is doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so > it might read: > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some > explanation around option 3 here]. > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 09:42 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys > last week... :-) > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language > > folder > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those > > models are used > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. 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Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu May 10 22:22:49 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 22:22:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FAC2C08.9090503@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301cd2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> <4FAC2C08.9090503@tor.nl > Message-ID: <017c01cd2ef3$0f609190$2e21b4b0$@co.uk> Yes I can see the point. I was thinking there isn't much saving by just excluding files in the root but obviously there are more models, thumbs and xwd's etc than ever now so I can see how it could be a valuable saving. That latest suggestion of 3 links + 2 checkboxes with the defaults similar to previous exports sounds like a good plan. Given the 'how it used to work' scenario I would add a little extra to the first para e.g. There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files required for viewing and interacting with the project. Note: if you want to edit the project locally in Xerte choose option 1 e.g. Archive Zip with all files from the project. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The reason I did this is that the overhead seems to become to big. The support files (xwd, models, thumbs) together is almost 2.2Mb Certainly for SCORM if you have an VLE where you have to pay for the disk storage that adds up. What we could do is change the setup: Have 3 options: Export zip Export SCORM 1.2 package Export SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. package and then have 2 checkboxes: 1. Full 2. Change URL of local media to local With the defaults being 1 toggled on, 2 toggled off (i.e. as close as possible to the current exports) Op 10-5-2012 22:43, Ron Mitchell schreef: I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu May 10 23:05:49 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 23:05:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <017c01cd2ef3$0f609190$2e21b4b0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301cd2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> <4FAC2C08.9090503@tor.nl > <017c01cd2ef3$0f609190$2e21b4b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <019301cd2ef9$1120d070$33627150$@co.uk> Hi Tom forgot to mention and I've updated the Google doc - when I click export as scorm 2004 3rd edition it just goes to a blank screen. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 22:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Yes I can see the point. I was thinking there isn't much saving by just excluding files in the root but obviously there are more models, thumbs and xwd's etc than ever now so I can see how it could be a valuable saving. That latest suggestion of 3 links + 2 checkboxes with the defaults similar to previous exports sounds like a good plan. Given the 'how it used to work' scenario I would add a little extra to the first para e.g. There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files required for viewing and interacting with the project. Note: if you want to edit the project locally in Xerte choose option 1 e.g. Archive Zip with all files from the project. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The reason I did this is that the overhead seems to become to big. The support files (xwd, models, thumbs) together is almost 2.2Mb Certainly for SCORM if you have an VLE where you have to pay for the disk storage that adds up. What we could do is change the setup: Have 3 options: Export zip Export SCORM 1.2 package Export SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. package and then have 2 checkboxes: 1. Full 2. Change URL of local media to local With the defaults being 1 toggled on, 2 toggled off (i.e. as close as possible to the current exports) Op 10-5-2012 22:43, Ron Mitchell schreef: I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu May 10 23:04:45 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 23:04:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have been updating xerte svn\pageWizards\models I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates I don't know anything about xerte2code\pageTemplates\models is that in the xerte svn? Is there a separate set of model files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models that have been changed separate to the files in xerte svn\pageWizards\models ? I have just updated both my xerte svn and toolkits svn and compared the model folders using winmerge and the models are identical save that the xerte svn has indexChanger.rlm and toolkits has translation.rlm and xerte.rlm So this is correct as I understand things should be. Kind regards Johnathan On 10 May 2012 14:17, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they > are. > This is a question we need to nail down. AFAIK, the one source is the > models folder in xerte svn\pageWizards\models, so these are the files we > should be modifying / fixing and then copying to toolkits. Whether or not > they contain all changes to the files in > xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models I am not sure. > > Jonathan? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 10:10 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > and there's still a bit to do < > > On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files > but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server > overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. > > I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: > > deleting unused media not working > > export not including language folder and files > > I know the language functionality is still under development but just a > note > that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu > doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. Perhaps > it should always be available? > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. > > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and > there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Well you could do it on page title? > > if(startpage){ > > Cover LO while LO loads > move to startpage > uncover LO > > } > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build > > one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a > > relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest > > would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or > > just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with > > pdf's > > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are > > moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the > > author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the > > deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be > > sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when > > the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather > > than needing to be a permalink etc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > > Lockley > > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > > wrote: > >> > >> One objection: > >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, > >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? > >> > >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or > >> exploratory material. > >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to > >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". > >> > >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. > >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 > >> > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example > >> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected > >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something > >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking > >> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and > >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced > >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are > >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of > >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL > >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in > >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many > >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but > >> useful > > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. > >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example > >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many > >> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when > >> providing CPD support etc. > >> > >> > >> > >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that > >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a > >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the > >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when > >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > >> Burnett > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've > >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if > >> the technical issues are addressed. > >> > >> > >> > >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. > >> > >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. > >> > >> > >> > >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. > >> > >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement > >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. > >> > >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling > >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. > >> > >> > >> > >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across > >> other nuggets. > >> > >> :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 > >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and > >> not a pageID > >> > >> > >> > >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never > >> sure what you meant. > >> > >> > >> > >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the > >> learning object author. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT > >> then it would be more acceptable. > >> > >> > >> > >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of > >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always > >> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney > wrote: > >> > >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll > >> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > > linking, i.e. > >> ?pageID=321234524 > >> > >> > >> > >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and > >> parked > > it. > >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the > >> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just > >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage > >> > >> > >> > >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to > >> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing > >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning > >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different > >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only > >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting > >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. > >> > >> > >> > >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, > >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am > >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy > >> it would work OK then it could be added later. > >> > >> > >> > >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right > >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier > >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the > >> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: > >> > >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last > time. > >> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be > >> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the > >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as > >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event > >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could > >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. > >> > >> > >> > >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be > >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully > >> available. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript > >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: > >> > >> Working fine here too > >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > >> > >> Win 7 64bit > >> > >> IE 8.0 > >> > >> Chrome 18.0 > >> > >> Safari 5.1.5 > >> > >> Opera 10.60 > >> > >> Firefox 12.0 > >> > >> > >> > >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > >> Reijnders > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is > >> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) > >> > >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > >> > >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > >> > >> Hello Everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making > >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than > >> always have them open at the title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. > >> > >> > >> > >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing > >> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of > >> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that > >> supports the redirection will be lost. > >> > >> > >> > >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web > >> browser - not Xerte. > >> > >> > >> > >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place > >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise > >> javascript calls will not work). > >> > >> > >> > >> It should open at a title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Then add to the url in your browser > >> > >> > >> > >> ?pageID=menu > >> > >> > >> > >> and press enter to reload the page. > >> > >> > >> > >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page > >> to the menu page. > >> > >> > >> > >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > >> > >> > >> > >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to > >> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > >> > >> > >> > >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because > >> rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit > >> event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for > >> the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. > >> > >> > >> > >> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same > >> approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array > >> to source the page information) > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > >> this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 08:51:43 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:51:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Option 3 Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Trying to shed some light on that option 3 export: here's what I've been able to find in my mail - there's a thread about it. It seems we wanted to export and leave the media on the exporting server, and then have the piece link to them and include them from there in some situations. Is that what option 3 does? Generate an output with hardcoded urls pointing back to the exporting server? -----Original Message----- From: Tenney Julian Sent: 05 March 2009 15:04 To: Julian Tenney; RonM; Patrick Lockley Subject: RE: Testing Request Hmm. Thinking it thorough a bit more, I'm not sure how we could easily make that work. We can create relative paths, but those paths are different when ran as a standalone exported piece than when ran in toolkits. I suppose if you leave the full path in there, then the files will till get served from the original server if there is connectivity. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 08:55:00 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:55:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF4D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> getURL('javascript:alert(' + yourDebugMessage + ');'); From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 10 May 2012 23:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Debugging Xerte I am updating the scenario connector page to make it easier to use and have hit a situation where adding a particular xml element in the xwd form results in xerte locking up. Is there any way of executing a preview or publishing the project and then viewing it in a browser such that it is possible to use some kind of debugging tool so that I can trace the progress of the code? Of have I got to do it the hard way and start commenting out blocks of code :-( Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri May 11 09:01:36 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:01:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000301cd2f4c$4c300d90$e49028b0$@co.uk> As far as I can tell it does the opposite! Read my responses last night - it changes any full url's to assets in the same lo to local links. Any urls to things outside of the same lo remain full url's. The option 1 export retains full url's regardless. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 08:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Option 3 Trying to shed some light on that option 3 export: here's what I've been able to find in my mail - there's a thread about it. It seems we wanted to export and leave the media on the exporting server, and then have the piece link to them and include them from there in some situations. Is that what option 3 does? Generate an output with hardcoded urls pointing back to the exporting server? -----Original Message----- From: Tenney Julian Sent: 05 March 2009 15:04 To: Julian Tenney; RonM; Patrick Lockley Subject: RE: Testing Request Hmm. Thinking it thorough a bit more, I'm not sure how we could easily make that work. We can create relative paths, but those paths are different when ran as a standalone exported piece than when ran in toolkits. I suppose if you leave the full path in there, then the files will till get served from the original server if there is connectivity. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 09:11:40 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:11:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <015301cd2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301cd2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD2F54.5B5AAD40] Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? [cid:image002.png at 01CD2F54.5B5AAD40] Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 09:17:22 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:17:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301cd2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?) Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? That's all of them? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD2F56.DF30C260] Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? [cid:image002.png at 01CD2F56.DF30C260] Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 11 09:24:09 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:24:09 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301cd2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FACCCA9.9060402@tor.nl> And what do you think of the idea with the checkboxes (see my email of 22:58) , or are you afraid things will get too complicated then as well. I do agree, that most people want to export for deployment, not for editing in Xerte Standalone. I am the only one that does that from time to time of all the people working with xot that I know. Op 11-5-2012 10:17, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: > > Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > self contained deployment -- or is this different?) > > Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits -- this > is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? > > That's all of them? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 09:12 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. > > In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the > originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. > 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' > > Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows > -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in > the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. > Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to > support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one > for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media > used / referenced in the project. > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. > > It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at > different locations. When these projects are imported, the project > folder gets all the models / thumbs etc -- this doesn't really need to > happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this -- maybe just > easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving > install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with > the receiving systems models / engine etc?). > > The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 21:44 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever > zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media > in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of > not including the files required to edit unless including them causes > a problem? > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe > keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have > to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously > the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this > context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files > required to edit as part of all the exports? > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to > local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how > to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if > there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload > to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. > This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place > so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or > localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 21:19 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. > The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... > and then get rid of option 3. > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Have committed that small mod. > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder > but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota > to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a > different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I > guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert > the links to local links if the same lo. > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the > moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported > with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but > then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the > file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even > though it is uploaded. > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:09 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 19:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > it is doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so > it might read: > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some > explanation around option 3 here]. > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 09:42 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys > last week... :-) > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language > > folder > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those > > models are used > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. 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Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 09:24:07 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:24:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates This might be bad news then, because I have always edited, templates/pageTemplates/models, because that has always been considered the number one source until very recently. It was my understanding that you were keeping your models in synch with these. I have never made any edits to the models in pageWizards/models, but I thought any changes to the files in templates/pageTemplates were reflected in your files. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 10 May 2012 23:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test I have been updating xerte svn\pageWizards\models I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates I don't know anything about xerte2code\pageTemplates\models is that in the xerte svn? Is there a separate set of model files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models that have been changed separate to the files in xerte svn\pageWizards\models ? I have just updated both my xerte svn and toolkits svn and compared the model folders using winmerge and the models are identical save that the xerte svn has indexChanger.rlm and toolkits has translation.rlm and xerte.rlm So this is correct as I understand things should be. Kind regards Johnathan On 10 May 2012 14:17, Julian Tenney > wrote: > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. This is a question we need to nail down. AFAIK, the one source is the models folder in xerte svn\pageWizards\models, so these are the files we should be modifying / fixing and then copying to toolkits. Whether or not they contain all changes to the files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models I am not sure. Jonathan? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 10:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > and there's still a bit to do < On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: deleting unused media not working export not including language folder and files I know the language functionality is still under development but just a note that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. Perhaps it should always be available? Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Well you could do it on page title? if(startpage){ Cover LO while LO loads move to startpage uncover LO } On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build > one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a > relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest > would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or > just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with > pdf's > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are > moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the > author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the > deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be > sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when > the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather > than needing to be a permalink etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > > wrote: >> >> One objection: >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? >> >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or >> exploratory material. >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". >> >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example >> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking >> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but >> useful > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many >> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when >> providing CPD support etc. >> >> >> >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> >> >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if >> the technical issues are addressed. >> >> >> >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. >> >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. >> >> >> >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. >> >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. >> >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. >> >> >> >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across >> other nuggets. >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and >> not a pageID >> >> >> >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) >> >> >> >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never >> sure what you meant. >> >> >> >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the >> learning object author. >> >> >> >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT >> then it would be more acceptable. >> >> >> >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always >> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll >> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > linking, i.e. >> ?pageID=321234524 >> >> >> >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and >> parked > it. >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the >> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage >> >> >> >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to >> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. >> >> >> >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. >> >> >> >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy >> it would work OK then it could be added later. >> >> >> >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the >> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. >> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be >> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. >> >> >> >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully >> available. >> >> >> >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> >> Working fine here too >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu >> >> Win 7 64bit >> >> IE 8.0 >> >> Chrome 18.0 >> >> Safari 5.1.5 >> >> Opera 10.60 >> >> Firefox 12.0 >> >> >> >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is >> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) >> >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 >> >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than >> always have them open at the title page. >> >> >> >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. >> >> >> >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing >> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of >> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that >> supports the redirection will be lost. >> >> >> >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web >> browser - not Xerte. >> >> >> >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise >> javascript calls will not work). >> >> >> >> It should open at a title page. >> >> >> >> Then add to the url in your browser >> >> >> >> ?pageID=menu >> >> >> >> and press enter to reload the page. >> >> >> >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page >> to the menu page. >> >> >> >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. >> >> >> >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to >> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, >> >> >> >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because >> rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit >> event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for >> the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. >> >> >> >> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same >> approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array >> to source the page information) >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 11 09:24:52 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:24:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 In-Reply-To: <000301cd2f4c$4c300d90$e49028b0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000301cd2f4c$4c300d90$e49028b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: I am pretty sure the code checks for the site URL in the url to see if it is a toolkits one On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > As far as I can tell it does the opposite! Read my responses last night - it > changes any full url's to assets in the same lo to local links. Any urls to > things outside of the same lo remain full url's. > > The option 1 export retains full url's regardless. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 08:52 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Option 3 > > Trying to shed some light on that option 3 export: here's what I've been > able to find in my mail - there's a thread about it. > > It seems we wanted to export and leave the media on the exporting server, > and then have the piece link to them and include them from there in some > situations. Is that what option 3 does? Generate an output with hardcoded > urls pointing back to the exporting server? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tenney Julian > Sent: 05 March 2009 15:04 > To: Julian Tenney; RonM; Patrick Lockley > Subject: RE: Testing Request > > Hmm. Thinking it thorough a bit more, I'm not sure how we could easily make > that work. We can create relative paths, but those paths are different when > ran as a standalone exported piece than when ran in toolkits. > > I suppose if you leave the full path in there, then the files will till get > served from the original server if there is connectivity. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 09:58:19 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:58:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 In-Reply-To: <000301cd2f4c$4c300d90$e49028b0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000301cd2f4c$4c300d90$e49028b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFC9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Ahh, I get it now, it's because the paths are different in toolkits than in xerte. I take it this is just URLs linked to on ? So in option 1, links point back to the originating server? Have I got this right? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:02 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 As far as I can tell it does the opposite! Read my responses last night - it changes any full url's to assets in the same lo to local links. Any urls to things outside of the same lo remain full url's. The option 1 export retains full url's regardless. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 08:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Option 3 Trying to shed some light on that option 3 export: here's what I've been able to find in my mail - there's a thread about it. It seems we wanted to export and leave the media on the exporting server, and then have the piece link to them and include them from there in some situations. Is that what option 3 does? Generate an output with hardcoded urls pointing back to the exporting server? -----Original Message----- From: Tenney Julian Sent: 05 March 2009 15:04 To: Julian Tenney; RonM; Patrick Lockley Subject: RE: Testing Request Hmm. Thinking it thorough a bit more, I'm not sure how we could easily make that work. We can create relative paths, but those paths are different when ran as a standalone exported piece than when ran in toolkits. I suppose if you leave the full path in there, then the files will till get served from the original server if there is connectivity. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri May 11 09:52:04 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:52:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301c d2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?< In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. So tweaking your list... 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?) Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? That's all of them? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 10:00:31 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:00:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301c d2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?< In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. So tweaking your list... 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?) Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? That's all of them? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD2F5C.E68E3AF0] Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? [cid:image002.png at 01CD2F5C.E68E3AF0] Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri May 11 10:12:00 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:12:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFC9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000301cd2f4c$4c300d90$e49028b0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFC9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004501cd2f56$21b6bf50$65243df0$@co.uk> > I take it this is just URLs linked to on ? So in option 1, links point back to the originating server? Have I got this right?< Yep I think so - haven't checked if it converts a similar link added to the browse for media field wrapped with '' but same thing anyway. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 Ahh, I get it now, it's because the paths are different in toolkits than in xerte. I take it this is just URLs linked to on ? So in option 1, links point back to the originating server? Have I got this right? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:02 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 As far as I can tell it does the opposite! Read my responses last night - it changes any full url's to assets in the same lo to local links. Any urls to things outside of the same lo remain full url's. The option 1 export retains full url's regardless. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 08:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Option 3 Trying to shed some light on that option 3 export: here's what I've been able to find in my mail - there's a thread about it. It seems we wanted to export and leave the media on the exporting server, and then have the piece link to them and include them from there in some situations. Is that what option 3 does? Generate an output with hardcoded urls pointing back to the exporting server? -----Original Message----- From: Tenney Julian Sent: 05 March 2009 15:04 To: Julian Tenney; RonM; Patrick Lockley Subject: RE: Testing Request Hmm. Thinking it thorough a bit more, I'm not sure how we could easily make that work. We can create relative paths, but those paths are different when ran as a standalone exported piece than when ran in toolkits. I suppose if you leave the full path in there, then the files will till get served from the original server if there is connectivity. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri May 11 10:15:08 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:15:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301c d2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to swap 1 and 3 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?< In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. So tweaking your list... 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?) Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? That's all of them? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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So, links to external stuff on the web, then, sure, we can only keep the link, but if we can export the media and create the right link, we should do that, yes? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:12 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 > I take it this is just URLs linked to on ? So in option 1, links point back to the originating server? Have I got this right?< Yep I think so - haven't checked if it converts a similar link added to the browse for media field wrapped with '' but same thing anyway. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 Ahh, I get it now, it's because the paths are different in toolkits than in xerte. I take it this is just URLs linked to on ? So in option 1, links point back to the originating server? Have I got this right? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:02 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 As far as I can tell it does the opposite! Read my responses last night - it changes any full url's to assets in the same lo to local links. Any urls to things outside of the same lo remain full url's. The option 1 export retains full url's regardless. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 08:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Option 3 Trying to shed some light on that option 3 export: here's what I've been able to find in my mail - there's a thread about it. It seems we wanted to export and leave the media on the exporting server, and then have the piece link to them and include them from there in some situations. Is that what option 3 does? Generate an output with hardcoded urls pointing back to the exporting server? -----Original Message----- From: Tenney Julian Sent: 05 March 2009 15:04 To: Julian Tenney; RonM; Patrick Lockley Subject: RE: Testing Request Hmm. Thinking it thorough a bit more, I'm not sure how we could easily make that work. We can create relative paths, but those paths are different when ran as a standalone exported piece than when ran in toolkits. I suppose if you leave the full path in there, then the files will till get served from the original server if there is connectivity. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 10:15:33 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:15:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <76692618-7786-4BDA-ADDC-D8E0FC5A1C41@palepurple.co.uk> <4FA27819.9020202@tor.nl> <4FA2A348.5050605@t or.nl> <000601cd2aea$d891a570$89b4f050$@co.uk> <4FA5701D.6050304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA3E32.8080409@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9504@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac .uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301c d2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, lets do that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to swap 1 and 3 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?< In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. So tweaking your list... 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?) Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? That's all of them? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD2F5F.0019C5A0] Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? [cid:image002.png at 01CD2F5F.0019C5A0] Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 11 10:21:09 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:21:09 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301c d2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make those two links in that line? And what do we do with 'local' All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. Tom Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, lets do that. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and > effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to > swap 1 and 3 > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > or importing into another XOT install > > 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 10:01 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 09:52 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< > > I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't > developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might > start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the > same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the > way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's > installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday > who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and > exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a > selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but > please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > self contained deployment -- or is this different?< > > In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than > scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to > index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from > XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and > obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another > reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are > often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module > settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking > isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are > tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a > need for non-scorm deployment. > > So tweaking your list... > > 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > or importing into another XOT install > > 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 09:17 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: > > Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > self contained deployment -- or is this different?) > > Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits -- this > is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? > > That's all of them? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 09:12 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. > > In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the > originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. > 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' > > Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows > -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in > the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. > Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to > support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one > for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media > used / referenced in the project. > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. > > It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at > different locations. When these projects are imported, the project > folder gets all the models / thumbs etc -- this doesn't really need to > happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this -- maybe just > easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving > install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with > the receiving systems models / engine etc?). > > The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 21:44 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever > zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media > in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of > not including the files required to edit unless including them causes > a problem? > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe > keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have > to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously > the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this > context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files > required to edit as part of all the exports? > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to > local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how > to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if > there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload > to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. > This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place > so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or > localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 21:19 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. > The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... > and then get rid of option 3. > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Have committed that small mod. > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder > but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota > to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a > different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I > guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert > the links to local links if the same lo. > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the > moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported > with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but > then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the > file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even > though it is uploaded. > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:09 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 19:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > it is doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so > it might read: > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some > explanation around option 3 here]. > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 09:42 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys > last week... :-) > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language > > folder > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those > > models are used > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make those two links in that line? And what do we do with 'local' All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. Tom Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, lets do that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to swap 1 and 3 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?< In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. So tweaking your list... 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?) Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? That's all of them? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD2F60.4148FA40] Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? [cid:image002.png at 01CD2F60.4148FA40] Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Why not stick with that and in that order but as Tom suggested last night replace option 3 with a checkbox e.g. convert to local links where possible? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:12 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 > I take it this is just URLs linked to on ? So in option 1, links point back to the originating server? Have I got this right?< Yep I think so - haven't checked if it converts a similar link added to the browse for media field wrapped with '' but same thing anyway. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 Ahh, I get it now, it's because the paths are different in toolkits than in xerte. I take it this is just URLs linked to on ? So in option 1, links point back to the originating server? Have I got this right? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:02 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 As far as I can tell it does the opposite! Read my responses last night - it changes any full url's to assets in the same lo to local links. Any urls to things outside of the same lo remain full url's. The option 1 export retains full url's regardless. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 08:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Option 3 Trying to shed some light on that option 3 export: here's what I've been able to find in my mail - there's a thread about it. It seems we wanted to export and leave the media on the exporting server, and then have the piece link to them and include them from there in some situations. Is that what option 3 does? Generate an output with hardcoded urls pointing back to the exporting server? -----Original Message----- From: Tenney Julian Sent: 05 March 2009 15:04 To: Julian Tenney; RonM; Patrick Lockley Subject: RE: Testing Request Hmm. Thinking it thorough a bit more, I'm not sure how we could easily make that work. We can create relative paths, but those paths are different when ran as a standalone exported piece than when ran in toolkits. I suppose if you leave the full path in there, then the files will till get served from the original server if there is connectivity. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:23 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 Just been having another look at what we have right now and is on the test install. Why not stick with that and in that order but as Tom suggested last night replace option 3 with a checkbox e.g. convert to local links where possible? [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD2F61.5C347F90] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:12 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 > I take it this is just URLs linked to on ? So in option 1, links point back to the originating server? Have I got this right?< Yep I think so - haven't checked if it converts a similar link added to the browse for media field wrapped with '' but same thing anyway. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:58 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 Ahh, I get it now, it's because the paths are different in toolkits than in xerte. I take it this is just URLs linked to on ? So in option 1, links point back to the originating server? Have I got this right? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:02 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Option 3 As far as I can tell it does the opposite! Read my responses last night - it changes any full url's to assets in the same lo to local links. Any urls to things outside of the same lo remain full url's. The option 1 export retains full url's regardless. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 08:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Option 3 Trying to shed some light on that option 3 export: here's what I've been able to find in my mail - there's a thread about it. It seems we wanted to export and leave the media on the exporting server, and then have the piece link to them and include them from there in some situations. Is that what option 3 does? Generate an output with hardcoded urls pointing back to the exporting server? -----Original Message----- From: Tenney Julian Sent: 05 March 2009 15:04 To: Julian Tenney; RonM; Patrick Lockley Subject: RE: Testing Request Hmm. Thinking it thorough a bit more, I'm not sure how we could easily make that work. We can create relative paths, but those paths are different when ran as a standalone exported piece than when ran in toolkits. I suppose if you leave the full path in there, then the files will till get served from the original server if there is connectivity. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 26370 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri May 11 10:35:19 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:35:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301c d2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> Message-ID: <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> For me the real value of the local export is this: User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are accessing from XOT all fine. Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially where assets are shared or updated regularly. The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make those two links in that line? And what do we do with 'local' All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. Tom Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, lets do that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to swap 1 and 3 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?< In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. So tweaking your list... 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?) Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? That's all of them? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/ ' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 10:43:49 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:43:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <4FAC0FFC.6060400@tor.nl > <010401cd2ee0$6bb15c 30$43141490$@co.uk> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <015301c d2eed$9a6db3e0$cf491ba0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B035@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, it does, but we need to find a way of expressing the functionality in words they've seen before and can readily understand, or prefereably make it automatic. In your explanation, you don't say why I might like to choose one option or another: that's what a user needs to know. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:35 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) For me the real value of the local export is this: User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are accessing from XOT all fine. Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially where assets are shared or updated regularly. The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make those two links in that line? And what do we do with 'local' All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. Tom Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, lets do that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to swap 1 and 3 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?< In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. So tweaking your list... 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?) Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? That's all of them? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD2F62.F32CEA80] Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? [cid:image002.png at 01CD2F62.F32CEA80] Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 62659 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri May 11 10:52:16 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:52:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: During the development of the new models I kept a folder in xerte svn/pageWizards called baseline. In this I have a set of the models from pageTemplates. When I updated my svn I compared the pageTemplates models with the ones in the baseline so that I could detect any changes and implement them in my models. Then I copied across the updated files from the pageTemplates folder so that baseline was in sync again. Since the beta release I had incorrectly assumed that changes would be made in the beta models, however this appears not always to have been the case. It will not be easy to compare the models in the pageTemplates with the new models because there will be many changes showing in the comparison that are merely the fact that [0] has changed to [projPI]. However as far as I know the baseline files are up to date to the last time I did a comparison, so it should be possible to identify any changes in the pageTemplate version of the models and to implement those changes in the new models. A quick comparison using winmerge shows the following files have been modified since my last check. buttonNav columnPage jmol title youtube youtuberss I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files and ensure the changes get into the beta models. Since we are heading for a situation in which pageTemplates based projects will be generated from the same set of models as are used by desktop Xerte, rather than having a set of models packaged in an xtp file it would be really useful if we could get to the position in which the model files in the runtime/pages folder are the definitive set. I have been leaving this to Tom as he has a better understanding of how svn's work than I do and I don't know what changes to files (if any) he may need to make. In the mean time I will continue to update the set of model and wizard files in the pageWizard section of the svn. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 May 2012 09:24, Julian Tenney wrote: > > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates > > This might be bad news then, because I have always edited, > templates/pageTemplates/models, because that has always been considered the > number one source until very recently. It was my understanding that you > were keeping your models in synch with these. I have never made any edits > to the models in pageWizards/models, but I thought any changes to the files > in templates/pageTemplates were reflected in your files. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 23:05 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > I have been updating xerte svn\pageWizards\models > > > > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates > > > > I don't know anything about xerte2code\pageTemplates\models is that in the > xerte svn? > > > > Is there a separate set of model files in > xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models that have been changed separate > to the files in xerte svn\pageWizards\models ? > > > > I have just updated both my xerte svn and toolkits svn and compared the > model folders using winmerge and the models are identical save that the > xerte svn has indexChanger.rlm and toolkits has translation.rlm and > xerte.rlm > > > > So this is correct as I understand things should be. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 10 May 2012 14:17, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they > are. > > This is a question we need to nail down. AFAIK, the one source is the > models folder in xerte svn\pageWizards\models, so these are the files we > should be modifying / fixing and then copying to toolkits. Whether or not > they contain all changes to the files in > xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models I am not sure. > > Jonathan? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 10:10 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > and there's still a bit to do < > > On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files > but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server > overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. > > I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: > > deleting unused media not working > > export not including language folder and files > > I know the language functionality is still under development but just a > note > that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu > doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. Perhaps > it should always be available? > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. > > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and > there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Well you could do it on page title? > > if(startpage){ > > Cover LO while LO loads > move to startpage > uncover LO > > } > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build > > one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a > > relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest > > would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or > > just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with > > pdf's > > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are > > moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the > > author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the > > deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be > > sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when > > the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather > > than needing to be a permalink etc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > > Lockley > > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > > wrote: > >> > >> One objection: > >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, > >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? > >> > >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or > >> exploratory material. > >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to > >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". > >> > >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. > >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 > >> > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example > >> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected > >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something > >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking > >> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and > >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced > >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are > >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of > >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL > >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in > >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many > >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but > >> useful > > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. > >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example > >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many > >> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when > >> providing CPD support etc. > >> > >> > >> > >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that > >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a > >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the > >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when > >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > >> Burnett > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've > >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if > >> the technical issues are addressed. > >> > >> > >> > >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. > >> > >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. > >> > >> > >> > >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. > >> > >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement > >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. > >> > >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling > >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. > >> > >> > >> > >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across > >> other nuggets. > >> > >> :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 > >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and > >> not a pageID > >> > >> > >> > >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never > >> sure what you meant. > >> > >> > >> > >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the > >> learning object author. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT > >> then it would be more acceptable. > >> > >> > >> > >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of > >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always > >> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney > wrote: > >> > >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll > >> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > > linking, i.e. > >> ?pageID=321234524 > >> > >> > >> > >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and > >> parked > > it. > >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the > >> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just > >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage > >> > >> > >> > >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to > >> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing > >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning > >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different > >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only > >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting > >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. > >> > >> > >> > >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, > >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am > >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy > >> it would work OK then it could be added later. > >> > >> > >> > >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right > >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier > >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the > >> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: > >> > >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last > time. > >> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be > >> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the > >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as > >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event > >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could > >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. > >> > >> > >> > >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be > >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully > >> available. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript > >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: > >> > >> Working fine here too > >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > >> > >> Win 7 64bit > >> > >> IE 8.0 > >> > >> Chrome 18.0 > >> > >> Safari 5.1.5 > >> > >> Opera 10.60 > >> > >> Firefox 12.0 > >> > >> > >> > >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > >> Reijnders > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is > >> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) > >> > >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > >> > >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > >> > >> Hello Everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making > >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than > >> always have them open at the title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. > >> > >> > >> > >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing > >> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of > >> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that > >> supports the redirection will be lost. > >> > >> > >> > >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web > >> browser - not Xerte. > >> > >> > >> > >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place > >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise > >> javascript calls will not work). > >> > >> > >> > >> It should open at a title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Then add to the url in your browser > >> > >> > >> > >> ?pageID=menu > >> > >> > >> > >> and press enter to reload the page. > >> > >> > >> > >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page > >> to the menu page. > >> > >> > >> > >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > >> > >> > >> > >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to > >> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > >> > >> > >> > >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 10:54:41 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:54:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B04D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files and ensure the changes get into the beta models. Thanks. Then the models in the two folder should be *exactly* the same? And the definitive set of files are those in pageWizards/models? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 11 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test During the development of the new models I kept a folder in xerte svn/pageWizards called baseline. In this I have a set of the models from pageTemplates. When I updated my svn I compared the pageTemplates models with the ones in the baseline so that I could detect any changes and implement them in my models. Then I copied across the updated files from the pageTemplates folder so that baseline was in sync again. Since the beta release I had incorrectly assumed that changes would be made in the beta models, however this appears not always to have been the case. It will not be easy to compare the models in the pageTemplates with the new models because there will be many changes showing in the comparison that are merely the fact that [0] has changed to [projPI]. However as far as I know the baseline files are up to date to the last time I did a comparison, so it should be possible to identify any changes in the pageTemplate version of the models and to implement those changes in the new models. A quick comparison using winmerge shows the following files have been modified since my last check. buttonNav columnPage jmol title youtube youtuberss I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files and ensure the changes get into the beta models. Since we are heading for a situation in which pageTemplates based projects will be generated from the same set of models as are used by desktop Xerte, rather than having a set of models packaged in an xtp file it would be really useful if we could get to the position in which the model files in the runtime/pages folder are the definitive set. I have been leaving this to Tom as he has a better understanding of how svn's work than I do and I don't know what changes to files (if any) he may need to make. In the mean time I will continue to update the set of model and wizard files in the pageWizard section of the svn. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 May 2012 09:24, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates This might be bad news then, because I have always edited, templates/pageTemplates/models, because that has always been considered the number one source until very recently. It was my understanding that you were keeping your models in synch with these. I have never made any edits to the models in pageWizards/models, but I thought any changes to the files in templates/pageTemplates were reflected in your files. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 10 May 2012 23:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test I have been updating xerte svn\pageWizards\models I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates I don't know anything about xerte2code\pageTemplates\models is that in the xerte svn? Is there a separate set of model files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models that have been changed separate to the files in xerte svn\pageWizards\models ? I have just updated both my xerte svn and toolkits svn and compared the model folders using winmerge and the models are identical save that the xerte svn has indexChanger.rlm and toolkits has translation.rlm and xerte.rlm So this is correct as I understand things should be. Kind regards Johnathan On 10 May 2012 14:17, Julian Tenney > wrote: > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. This is a question we need to nail down. AFAIK, the one source is the models folder in xerte svn\pageWizards\models, so these are the files we should be modifying / fixing and then copying to toolkits. Whether or not they contain all changes to the files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models I am not sure. Jonathan? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 10:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > and there's still a bit to do < On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: deleting unused media not working export not including language folder and files I know the language functionality is still under development but just a note that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. Perhaps it should always be available? Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Well you could do it on page title? if(startpage){ Cover LO while LO loads move to startpage uncover LO } On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build > one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a > relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest > would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or > just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with > pdf's > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are > moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the > author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the > deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be > sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when > the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather > than needing to be a permalink etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > > wrote: >> >> One objection: >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? >> >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or >> exploratory material. >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". >> >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example >> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking >> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but >> useful > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many >> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when >> providing CPD support etc. >> >> >> >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> >> >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if >> the technical issues are addressed. >> >> >> >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. >> >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. >> >> >> >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. >> >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. >> >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. >> >> >> >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across >> other nuggets. >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and >> not a pageID >> >> >> >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) >> >> >> >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never >> sure what you meant. >> >> >> >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the >> learning object author. >> >> >> >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT >> then it would be more acceptable. >> >> >> >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always >> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll >> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > linking, i.e. >> ?pageID=321234524 >> >> >> >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and >> parked > it. >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the >> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage >> >> >> >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to >> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. >> >> >> >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. >> >> >> >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy >> it would work OK then it could be added later. >> >> >> >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the >> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. >> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be >> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. >> >> >> >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully >> available. >> >> >> >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> >> Working fine here too >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu >> >> Win 7 64bit >> >> IE 8.0 >> >> Chrome 18.0 >> >> Safari 5.1.5 >> >> Opera 10.60 >> >> Firefox 12.0 >> >> >> >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is >> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) >> >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 >> >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than >> always have them open at the title page. >> >> >> >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. >> >> >> >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing >> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of >> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that >> supports the redirection will be lost. >> >> >> >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web >> browser - not Xerte. >> >> >> >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise >> javascript calls will not work). >> >> >> >> It should open at a title page. >> >> >> >> Then add to the url in your browser >> >> >> >> ?pageID=menu >> >> >> >> and press enter to reload the page. >> >> >> >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page >> to the menu page. >> >> >> >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. >> >> >> >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to >> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, >> >> >> >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 11 10:56:21 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:56:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> Message-ID: Suggestion (to save inboxes) Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have export.inc as the default if export_modified.inc exists then this is loaded instead of export so you can have your own interface? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > For me the real value of the local export is this:**** > > ** ** > > User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to > link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they import > them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are accessing > from XOT all fine.**** > > ** ** > > Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author then > needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to local > links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to local because > there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's may contain links > to lot's of online resources and sites so connectivity is required even > when viewing locally and keeping the media folder links pointing back to > XOT can be very useful especially where assets are shared or updated > regularly.**** > > ** ** > > The checkbox option gives the author control which is great.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 10:21 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > ** ** > > I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point 2 > contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make those > two links in that line? > > And what do we do with 'local' > > All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo > somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we only > need to figure out how to do the UI right now. > > Tom > > Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: **** > > OK, lets do that.**** > > **** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and > effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to swap 1 > and 3**** > > **** > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing > into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing > into another XOT install**** > > 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook**** > > 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users.**** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 10:01 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > I?d switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3.**** > > **** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 09:52 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.<**** > > **** > > I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't > developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start > off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to > use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and > edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were > quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not > XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always > been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might > need to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's > really good reason not to?**** > > **** > > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > self contained deployment ? or is this different?<**** > > **** > > In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm > and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I > appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various > reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this > because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm > imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset > display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the > non-scorm route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might > change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I > think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. **** > > **** > > So tweaking your list...**** > > **** > > 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users.**** > > 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing > into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing > into another XOT install**** > > 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook**** > > **** > > HTH**** > > Ron**** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 09:17 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > Maybe it?s useful to list the scenarios:**** > > **** > > Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004**** > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self > contained deployment ? or is this different?)**** > > Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits ? this is > what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well?**** > > **** > > That?s all of them?**** > > **** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 09:12 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > This is starting to feel like a FWS failure.**** > > **** > > In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating > server? Is that what ?full URL? means, i.e. ? > http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/?**** > > **** > > Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> > import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the > future. I don?t know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, > connectivity is everywhere, and there?s less need to support this than > there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a > minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the > project.**** > > **** > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.**** > > **** > > It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different > locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all > the models / thumbs etc ? this doesn?t really need to happen, but I?m not > sure why Pat made it work like this ? maybe just easy coding, or maybe > because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn?t know about, or > templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine > etc?).**** > > **** > > The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that?s straightforward.**** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 21:44 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip > export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. **** > > **** > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in > terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not > including the files required to edit unless including them causes a > problem? **** > > **** > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping > that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export > twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm > export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is > there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as > part of all the exports?**** > > **** > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local > links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use > assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and > files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and > then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked > documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of > whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the > asset is in the same lo.**** > > **** > > Cheers**** > > Ron**** > > **** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 21:19 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The > zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and > then get rid of option 3. > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: **** > > Have committed that small mod.**** > > **** > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this...**** > > **** > > I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link > **** > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere**** > > **** > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but > the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links**** > > **** > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to > FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url.**** > > **** > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different > lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code > must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local > links if the same lo.**** > > **** > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the > moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with > option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then > automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The > same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine.**** > > **** > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it > is uploaded.**** > > **** > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc.**** > > **** > > HTH**** > > Ron**** > > **** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: **** > > Hi Tom**** > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that > has

in the relevant places e.g.**** > > **** > > **** > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification?**** > > **** > > Cheers**** > > Ron**** > > **** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:09 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake.**** > > **** > > HTH**** > > Ron**** > > **** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 19:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: **** > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is > doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: **** > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might > not know what ?with references to local files altered? means, so it might > read:**** > > **** > > ---------------------------------------**** > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another > user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. > You can choose whether to export all of the project?s files, or just those > files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. * > *** > > **** > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project**** > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project* > *** > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda**** > > **** > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 > or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don?t know which version of SCORM you need, > the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. **** > > **** > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package**** > > Scorm 2004 Package.**** > > ---------------------------------------**** > > **** > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can?t remember what the point of > option 3 was..? I?ll see if I can find anything in my mail?**** > > **** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 09:42 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: **** > > Yep.**** > > **** > > -----Original Message-----**** > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders**** > > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30**** > > To: For Xerte technical developers**** > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys **** > > last week... :-)**** > > **** > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the **** > > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree?**** > > **** > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef:**** > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip?**** > > **** > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports.**** > > **** > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one.**** > > **** > > -----Original Message-----**** > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders**** > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52**** > > To: For Xerte technical developers**** > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there**** > > are 5 exports:**** > > **** > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or**** > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to**** > > look at that.**** > > **** > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls**** > > **** > > SCORM 1.2**** > > **** > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data**** > > **** > > SCORM 2004**** > > **** > > **** > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use**** > > SCORM with extra MetaData)**** > > **** > > Tom**** > > **** > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef:**** > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option.**** > > **** > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out.**** > > **** > > Are these changes on the test server now?**** > > **** > > -----Original Message-----**** > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders**** > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23**** > > To: For Xerte technical developers**** > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export,**** > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the**** > > export/download discussion.**** > > **** > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef:**** > > Hi**** > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs&**** > > Friday...**** > > **** > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all**** > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being**** > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text**** > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than**** > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page**** > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might**** > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not**** > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that**** > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they**** > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner**** > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be**** > > as a backup of the whole project.**** > > **** > > HTH**** > > Ron**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > -----Original Message-----**** > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk**** > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders**** > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25**** > > To: For Xerte technical developers**** > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes)**** > > **** > > I just committed an update to the export code:**** > > **** > > Fixes and additions for export**** > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language**** > > folder**** > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export**** > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those**** > > models are used**** > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied**** > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf**** > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php**** > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files**** > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in**** > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export)**** > > **** > > **** > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well...**** > > **** > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted**** > > thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a**** > > password in the database... ;-)**** > > **** > > Tom**** > > **** > > Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef:**** > > i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might**** > > conflict.**** > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote:**** > > I will, but they are really simple.**** > > **** > > Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef:**** > > Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones**** > > might have hungry regexs?**** > > **** > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin **** > > wrote:**** > > On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote:**** > > **** > > i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers**** > > Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :)**** > > **** > > David.**** > > **** > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: > Suggestion (to save inboxes) > > Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have > > export.inc as the default > > if > > export_modified.inc exists > > then this is loaded instead of export > > so you can have your own interface? > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell > > wrote: > > For me the real value of the local export is this: > > User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and > want to link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't > online so they import them via media and quota and link to them. > Whilst learners are accessing from XOT all fine. > > Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. > Author then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be > converted to local links or not. Sandpit users would have to > choose convert to local because there assets would be wiped > anyway. In other cases LO's may contain links to lot's of online > resources and sites so connectivity is required even when viewing > locally and keeping the media folder links pointing back to XOT > can be very useful especially where assets are shared or updated > regularly. > > The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 10:21 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean > point 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). > Just make those two links in that line? > > And what do we do with 'local' > > All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a > typo somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to > export.php. So we only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. > > Tom > > Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, lets do that. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now > and effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more > sense to swap 1 and 3 > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB > etc or importing into another XOT install > > 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 10:01 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 09:52 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< > > I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They > aren't developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations > who might start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they > can use the same easy to use interface in the developer tool and > that becomes the way the create and edit whilst waiting for their > own organisation's installation. There were quite a few people at > the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had > started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always > been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things > might need to change in the future but please keep this for now > unless there's really good reason not to? > > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same > output as self contained deployment -- or is this different?< > > In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than > scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to > index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking > from XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route > and obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. > Another reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in > particular are often constrained by the frameset display and/or > sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm > route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might > change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but > for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. > > So tweaking your list... > > 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB > etc or importing into another XOT install > > 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 09:17 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: > > Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output > as self contained deployment -- or is this different?) > > Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits -- > this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as > well? > > That's all of them? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 09:12 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. > > In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the > originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. > 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' > > > Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for > windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want > to drop in the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 > world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less > need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export > is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including > only the media used / referenced in the project. > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. > > It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at > different locations. When these projects are imported, the project > folder gets all the models / thumbs etc -- this doesn't really > need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this -- > maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates > the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are > out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). > > The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 21:44 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. > whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused > media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the > value of not including the files required to edit unless including > them causes a problem? > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe > keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I > have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas > previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been > discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the > .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted > to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing > people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that > purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of > different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those > links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents > can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of > whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even > if the asset is in the same lo. > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 21:19 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit > them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always > happen.... and then get rid of option 3. > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Have committed that small mod. > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full > url link > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media > folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain > full url links > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and > quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a > different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I > guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only > convert the links to local links if the same lo. > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at > the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO > exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte > fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored > e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits > just fine. > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even > though it is uploaded. > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:09 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between > each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 19:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew > what it is doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' > means, so it might read: > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need > some explanation around option 3 here]. > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the > project > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export > SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version > of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and > VLE systems. > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 09:42 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys > > last week... :-) > > > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language > > folder > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those > > models are used > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) FWS ??? Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: Suggestion (to save inboxes) Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have export.inc as the default if export_modified.inc exists then this is loaded instead of export so you can have your own interface? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: For me the real value of the local export is this: User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are accessing from XOT all fine. Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially where assets are shared or updated regularly. The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make those two links in that line? And what do we do with 'local' All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. Tom Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, lets do that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to swap 1 and 3 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?< In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. So tweaking your list... 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?) Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? That's all of them? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 11 11:11:29 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:11:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: i mean for sysadmins you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people set it their way. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Flippin Well Simple. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > FWS ??? > > Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: > > Suggestion (to save inboxes) > > > > Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have > > > > export.inc as the default > > > > if > > > > export_modified.inc exists > > > > then this is loaded instead of export > > > > so you can have your own interface? > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > > For me the real value of the local export is this: > > > > User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to link > to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they import them > via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are accessing from XOT > all fine. > > > > Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author then > needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to local links > or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to local because there > assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's may contain links to lot's > of online resources and sites so connectivity is required even when viewing > locally and keeping the media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very > useful especially where assets are shared or updated regularly. > > > > The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point 2 > contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make those two > links in that line? > > And what do we do with 'local' > > All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo > somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we only > need to figure out how to do the UI right now. > > Tom > > Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, lets do that. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and > effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to swap 1 > and 3 > > > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing > into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing > into another XOT install > > 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I?d switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > >> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< > > > > I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't > developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start > off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to > use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and > edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were > quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not > XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always > been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need > to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really > good reason not to? > > > >> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self >> contained deployment ? or is this different?< > > > > In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and > then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I > appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various > reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this > because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm > imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset > display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm > route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more > page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's > still a need for non-scorm deployment. > > > > So tweaking your list... > > > > 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing > into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing > into another XOT install > > 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Maybe it?s useful to list the scenarios: > > > > Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self > contained deployment ? or is this different?) > > Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits ? this is > what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? > > > > That?s all of them? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. > > > > In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating > server? Is that what ?full URL? means, i.e. > ?http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/? > > > > Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> > import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. > I don?t know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, > connectivity is everywhere, and there?s less need to support this than there > was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal > set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. > > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. > > > > It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different > locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the > models / thumbs etc ? this doesn?t really need to happen, but I?m not sure > why Pat made it work like this ? maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we > cope with templates the receiving install doesn?t know about, or templates > that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). > > > > The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that?s straightforward. > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip > export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. > > > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in > terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not > including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? > > > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping > that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export > twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm > export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is > there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as > part of all the exports? > > > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local > links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use > assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and > files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and > then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked > documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of > whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the > asset is in the same lo. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The > zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and > then get rid of option 3. > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Have committed that small mod. > > > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > > > I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but > the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links > > > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to > FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo > and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must > check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links > if the same lo. > > > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment > there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 > and 3. ?If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically > minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo > exported with option 1 edits just fine. > > > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties >> media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. > > > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has >

in the relevant places e.g. > > > > > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link > just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is > doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to? make this easy to understand: I might not > know what ?with references to local files altered? means, so it might read: > > > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, > but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to > deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can > choose whether to export all of the project?s files, or just those files > used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. > > > > Export ? Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > ??????????????? Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project > > ??????????????? Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or > SCORM 2004 packages. If you don?t know which version of SCORM you need, the > SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > > > Export ? Scorm 1.2 Package > > ??????????????? Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can?t remember what the point of > option 3 was..? I?ll see if I can find anything in my mail? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys > > last week... :-) > > > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of > options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and > sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover > hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a? slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm > 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they > > can delete unwanted media via media&??? quota before exporting. e.g. owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > ???? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language > > folder > > ???? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > ???? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if > those > > models are used > > ???? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > ???? - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > ???? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > ???? - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > ???? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm > in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri May 11 11:18:42 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:18:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B04D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4FA4D538.3060709@tor.nl> <003201cd2a9b$417226f0$c45674d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D94D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D95A9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B04D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Unless I have slipped up somewhere the models in the pageWizards/baseline folder will be different to the equivalent model files in the pageTemplates section of the svn, only where a change has been committed to the pageTemplates model, after the last time I did a check and updated the pageWizards models. All the rest will be exactly the same - as judged by comparing the two folders using winmerge. Once I have identified the changes then the baseline copy of the file will be replaced with the pageTemplates copy of the file, ready to detect any subsequent change should it be made. The models in the pageWizards / models folder should be the definitive set until we reach the situation in which things are tidied up and the definitive set of files find their natural home in the runtime folder. The pageWizard/models/ files will appear significantly different if compared to either the files in the pageWizards/baselines/models folder or the pageTemplates/models folder due to the support for indexing that they contain ([projPI] instead of [0]) Kind regards Johnathan On 11 May 2012 10:54, Julian Tenney wrote: > > I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files > and ensure the changes get into the beta models. > > Thanks. > > > > Then the models in the two folder should be **exactly** the same? > > > > And the definitive set of files are those in pageWizards/models? > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 10:52 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > During the development of the new models I kept a folder in xerte > svn/pageWizards called baseline. In this I have a set of the models from > pageTemplates. > > > > When I updated my svn I compared the pageTemplates models with the ones in > the baseline so that I could detect any changes and implement them in my > models. Then I copied across the updated files from the pageTemplates > folder so that baseline was in sync again. > > > > Since the beta release I had incorrectly assumed that changes would be > made in the beta models, however this appears not always to have been the > case. > > > > It will not be easy to compare the models in the pageTemplates with the > new models because there will be many changes showing in the comparison > that are merely the fact that [0] has changed to [projPI]. > > > > However as far as I know the baseline files are up to date to the last > time I did a comparison, so it should be possible to identify any changes > in the pageTemplate version of the models and to implement those changes in > the new models. > > > > A quick comparison using winmerge shows the following files have been > modified since my last check. > > > > buttonNav > > columnPage > > jmol > > title > > youtube > > youtuberss > > > > I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files and > ensure the changes get into the beta models. > > > > Since we are heading for a situation in which pageTemplates based projects > will be generated from the same set of models as are used by desktop Xerte, > rather than having a set of models packaged in an xtp file it would be > really useful if we could get to the position in which the model files in > the runtime/pages folder are the definitive set. I have been leaving this > to Tom as he has a better understanding of how svn's work than I do and I > don't know what changes to files (if any) he may need to make. In the mean > time I will continue to update the set of model and wizard files in the > pageWizard section of the svn. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 11 May 2012 09:24, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates > > This might be bad news then, because I have always edited, > templates/pageTemplates/models, because that has always been considered the > number one source until very recently. It was my understanding that you > were keeping your models in synch with these. I have never made any edits > to the models in pageWizards/models, but I thought any changes to the files > in templates/pageTemplates were reflected in your files. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 23:05 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > I have been updating xerte svn\pageWizards\models > > > > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates > > > > I don't know anything about xerte2code\pageTemplates\models is that in the > xerte svn? > > > > Is there a separate set of model files in > xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models that have been changed separate > to the files in xerte svn\pageWizards\models ? > > > > I have just updated both my xerte svn and toolkits svn and compared the > model folders using winmerge and the models are identical save that the > xerte svn has indexChanger.rlm and toolkits has translation.rlm and > xerte.rlm > > > > So this is correct as I understand things should be. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 10 May 2012 14:17, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they > are. > > This is a question we need to nail down. AFAIK, the one source is the > models folder in xerte svn\pageWizards\models, so these are the files we > should be modifying / fixing and then copying to toolkits. Whether or not > they contain all changes to the files in > xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models I am not sure. > > Jonathan? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 10:10 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > and there's still a bit to do < > > On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files > but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server > overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. > > I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: > > deleting unused media not working > > export not including language folder and files > > I know the language functionality is still under development but just a > note > that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu > doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. Perhaps > it should always be available? > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. > > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and > there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Well you could do it on page title? > > if(startpage){ > > Cover LO while LO loads > move to startpage > uncover LO > > } > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build > > one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a > > relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest > > would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or > > just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with > > pdf's > > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are > > moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the > > author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the > > deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be > > sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when > > the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather > > than needing to be a permalink etc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > > Lockley > > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > > wrote: > >> > >> One objection: > >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, > >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? > >> > >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or > >> exploratory material. > >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to > >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". > >> > >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. > >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 > >> > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example > >> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected > >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something > >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking > >> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and > >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced > >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are > >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of > >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL > >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in > >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many > >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but > >> useful > > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. > >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example > >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many > >> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when > >> providing CPD support etc. > >> > >> > >> > >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that > >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a > >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the > >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when > >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > >> Burnett > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've > >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if > >> the technical issues are addressed. > >> > >> > >> > >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. > >> > >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. > >> > >> > >> > >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. > >> > >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement > >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. > >> > >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling > >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. > >> > >> > >> > >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across > >> other nuggets. > >> > >> :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 > >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and > >> not a pageID > >> > >> > >> > >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never > >> sure what you meant. > >> > >> > >> > >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the > >> learning object author. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT > >> then it would be more acceptable. > >> > >> > >> > >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of > >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always > >> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney > wrote: > >> > >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll > >> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > > linking, i.e. > >> ?pageID=321234524 > >> > >> > >> > >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and > >> parked > > it. > >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the > >> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just > >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage > >> > >> > >> > >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to > >> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing > >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning > >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different > >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only > >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting > >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. > >> > >> > >> > >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, > >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am > >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy > >> it would work OK then it could be added later. > >> > >> > >> > >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right > >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier > >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the > >> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: > >> > >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last > time. > >> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be > >> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the > >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as > >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event > >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could > >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. > >> > >> > >> > >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be > >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully > >> available. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript > >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell wrote: > >> > >> Working fine here too > >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > >> > >> Win 7 64bit > >> > >> IE 8.0 > >> > >> Chrome 18.0 > >> > >> Safari 5.1.5 > >> > >> Opera 10.60 > >> > >> Firefox 12.0 > >> > >> > >> > >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > >> Reijnders > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is > >> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) > >> > >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > >> > >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > >> > >> Hello Everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making > >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than > >> always have them open at the title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. > >> > >> > >> > >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing > >> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of > >> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that > >> supports the redirection will be lost. > >> > >> > >> > >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web > >> browser - not Xerte. > >> > >> > >> > >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place > >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise > >> javascript calls will not work). > >> > >> > >> > >> It should open at a title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Then add to the url in your browser > >> > >> > >> > >> ?pageID=menu > >> > >> > >> > >> and press enter to reload the page. > >> > >> > >> > >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page > >> to the menu page. > >> > >> > >> > >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > >> > >> > >> > >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to > >> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > >> > >> > >> > >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because > >> rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit > >> event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for > >> the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. > >> > >> > >> > >> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same > >> approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array > >> to source the page information) > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > >> this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri May 11 11:24:34 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:24:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA3 1562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> Because that could lead to chaos! ;-) It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to convert to local if required. Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and perhaps now the community site. Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) i mean for sysadmins you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people set it their way. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Flippin Well Simple. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > FWS ??? > > Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: > > Suggestion (to save inboxes) > > > > Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have > > > > export.inc as the default > > > > if > > > > export_modified.inc exists > > > > then this is loaded instead of export > > > > so you can have your own interface? > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell > > wrote: > > For me the real value of the local export is this: > > > > User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to > link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they > import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are > accessing from XOT all fine. > > > > Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author > then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to > local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to > local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's > may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so > connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the > media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially where assets are shared or updated regularly. > > > > The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point > 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make > those two links in that line? > > And what do we do with 'local' > > All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo > somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we > only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. > > Tom > > Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, lets do that. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and > effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to > swap 1 and 3 > > > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > or importing into another XOT install > > 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I?d switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > >> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< > > > > I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't > developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might > start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the > same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the > way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's > installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday > who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and > exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a > selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but > please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > > > >> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as >> self contained deployment ? or is this different?< > > > > In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than > scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to > index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from > XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and > obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another > reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are > often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module > settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking > isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are > tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. > > > > So tweaking your list... > > > > 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > or importing into another XOT install > > 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Maybe it?s useful to list the scenarios: > > > > Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > self contained deployment ? or is this different?) > > Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits ? this > is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? > > > > That?s all of them? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. > > > > In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the > originating server? Is that what ?full URL? means, i.e. > ?http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/? > > > > Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows > -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. > I don?t know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, > connectivity is everywhere, and there?s less need to support this than > there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, > with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. > > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. > > > > It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at > different locations. When these projects are imported, the project > folder gets all the models / thumbs etc ? this doesn?t really need to > happen, but I?m not sure why Pat made it work like this ? maybe just > easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving > install doesn?t know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). > > > > The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that?s straightforward. > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever > zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. > > > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media > in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of > not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? > > > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe > keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have > to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously > the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this > context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files > required to edit as part of all the exports? > > > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to > local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how > to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if > there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload > to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. > This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place > so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or > localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. > The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... > and then get rid of option 3. > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Have committed that small mod. > > > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > > > I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url > link > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder > but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links > > > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota > to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a > different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I > guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert > the links to local links if the same lo. > > > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the > moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported > with option 2 and 3. ?If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but > then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the > file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. > > > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > properties >> media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. > > > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > > > > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > it is doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to? make this easy to understand: I > might not know what ?with references to local files altered? means, so it might read: > > > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > project?s files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. > > > > Export ? Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > ??????????????? Zip Archive with just the media files used in the > project > > ??????????????? Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don?t know which version of SCORM > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > > > Export ? Scorm 1.2 Package > > ??????????????? Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can?t remember what the > point of option 3 was..? I?ll see if I can find anything in my mail > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you > guys > > last week... :-) > > > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that > there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads > of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each > filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports > it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a? slightly baffling local? Scorm? > Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include > all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via > text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document > rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular > page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they > might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might > not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes > that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size > they > > can delete unwanted media via media&??? quota before exporting. e.g. > owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might > simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > ???? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the > /language > > folder > > ???? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > ???? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only > if those > > models are used > > ???? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > ???? - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > ???? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > ???? - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > ???? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of > scorm in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. > Comitted > > thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a > > password in the database... ;-) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: > > i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might > > conflict. > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders???? wrote: > > I will, but they are really simple. > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: > > Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones > > might have hungry regexs? > > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin > > ???? wrote: > > On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: > > > > i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers > > Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) > > > > David. > > > > Pale Purple Ltd.? (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application > > Development and Training in PHP' > > > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746???? 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 11 11:27:08 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:27:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> Message-ID: How is it chaos? You want to do it another way, you do it another way You never submit your version, and when you update the site, your code is maintained. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Because that could lead to chaos! ;-) > > It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to > convert to local if required. > > Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be > covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and > perhaps now the community site. > > Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > i mean for sysadmins > > you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people > set it their way. > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Flippin Well Simple. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> FWS ??? >> >> Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> Suggestion (to save inboxes) >> >> >> >> Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have >> >> >> >> export.inc as the default >> >> >> >> if >> >> >> >> export_modified.inc exists >> >> >> >> then this is loaded instead of export >> >> >> >> so you can have your own interface? >> >> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell >> >> wrote: >> >> For me the real value of the local export is this: >> >> >> >> User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to >> link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they >> import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are >> accessing from XOT all fine. >> >> >> >> Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author >> then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to >> local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to >> local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's >> may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so >> connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the >> media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially > where assets are shared or updated regularly. >> >> >> >> The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point >> 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make >> those two links in that line? >> >> And what do we do with 'local' >> >> All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo >> somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we >> only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. >> >> Tom >> >> Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> OK, lets do that. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and >> effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to >> swap 1 and 3 >> >> >> >> 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for >> importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc >> or importing into another XOT install >> >> 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM >> 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook >> >> 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and >> round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> I?d switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >>> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< >> >> >> >> I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't >> developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might >> start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the >> same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the >> way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's >> installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday >> who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and >> exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a >> selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but >> please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? >> >> >> >>> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as >>> self contained deployment ? or is this different?< >> >> >> >> In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than >> scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to >> index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from >> XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and >> obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another >> reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are >> often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module >> settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking >> isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are >> tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need > for non-scorm deployment. >> >> >> >> So tweaking your list... >> >> >> >> 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and >> round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. >> >> 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for >> importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc >> or importing into another XOT install >> >> 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM >> 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> Maybe it?s useful to list the scenarios: >> >> >> >> Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 >> >> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as >> self contained deployment ? or is this different?) >> >> Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits ? this >> is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? >> >> >> >> That?s all of them? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. >> >> >> >> In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the >> originating server? Is that what ?full URL? means, i.e. >> ?http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/? >> >> >> >> Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows >> -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the > future. >> I don?t know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, >> connectivity is everywhere, and there?s less need to support this than >> there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, >> with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in > the project. >> >> >> >> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. >> >> >> >> It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at >> different locations. When these projects are imported, the project >> folder gets all the models / thumbs etc ? this doesn?t really need to >> happen, but I?m not sure why Pat made it work like this ? maybe just >> easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving >> install doesn?t know about, or templates that are out of synch with the > receiving systems models / engine etc?). >> >> >> >> The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that?s straightforward. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever >> zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. >> >> >> >> However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media >> in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of >> not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a > problem? >> >> >> >> Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe >> keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have >> to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously >> the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this >> context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files >> required to edit as part of all the exports? >> >> >> >> Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to >> local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how >> to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if >> there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload >> to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. >> This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place >> so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or >> localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. >> The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. >> >> I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... >> and then get rid of option 3. >> >> Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Have committed that small mod. >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... >> >> >> >> I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url >> link >> >> I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere >> >> >> >> export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder >> but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links >> >> >> >> export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota >> to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. >> >> >> >> I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a >> different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I >> guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert >> the links to local links if the same lo. >> >> >> >> However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the >> moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported >> with option 2 and 3. ?If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but >> then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the >> file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. >> >> >> >> In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via >> properties >>> media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is > uploaded. >> >> >> >> I'll add these issues to the Google doc. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) >> >> Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Hi Tom >> >> on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy >> that has

in the relevant places e.g. >> >> >> >> >> >> Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each >> link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> How about this for now? >> >> >> >> Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> >> I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what >> it is doing. >> >> Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Do we need to add some wording to? make this easy to understand: I >> might not know what ?with references to local files altered? means, so it > might read: >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is >> packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with >> another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM >> compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the >> project?s files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some > explanation around option 3 here]. >> >> >> >> Export ? Zip Archive with all media files from the project >> >> ??????????????? Zip Archive with just the media files used in the >> project >> >> ??????????????? Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda >> >> >> >> If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM >> 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don?t know which version of SCORM >> you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. >> >> >> >> Export ? Scorm 1.2 Package >> >> ??????????????? Scorm 2004 Package. >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can?t remember what the >> point of option 3 was..? I?ll see if I can find anything in my mail? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Yep. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you >> guys >> >> last week... :-) >> >> >> >> I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the >> >> functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? >> >> >> >> Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? >> >> >> >> Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. >> >> >> >> I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that >> there >> >> are 5 exports: >> >> >> >> Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or >> >> mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to >> >> look at that. >> >> >> >> Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls >> >> >> >> SCORM 1.2 >> >> >> >> SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data >> >> >> >> SCORM 2004 >> >> >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use >> >> SCORM with extra MetaData) >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads >> of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each >> filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports >> it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. >> >> >> >> Otherwise we start ending up with a? slightly baffling local? Scorm? >> Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get > something out. >> >> >> >> Are these changes on the test server now? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, >> >> The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the >> >> export/download discussion. >> >> >> >> Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Hi >> >> Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& >> >> Friday... >> >> >> >> Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include >> all >> >> the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being >> >> sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via >> text >> >> hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document >> rather than >> >> a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular >> page >> >> or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they >> might >> >> not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might >> not >> >> work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes >> that >> >> export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size >> they >> >> can delete unwanted media via media&??? quota before exporting. e.g. >> owner >> >> should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might >> simply be >> >> as a backup of the whole project. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> I just committed an update to the export code: >> >> >> >> Fixes and additions for export >> >> ???? - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >> /language >> >> folder >> >> ???? - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >> >> ???? - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only >> if those >> >> models are used >> >> ???? - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >> >> ???? - small fixes in htaccess.conf >> >> ???? - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >> >> ???? - get rid of superfuous scorm files >> >> ???? - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >> scorm in >> >> in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >> >> >> >> >> >> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >> >> >> >> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >> Comitted >> >> thos as well. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 11:27:12 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:27:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA3 1562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> >Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and perhaps now the community site. No, I think we need to find the words to explain the scenario for this option on the tab. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 11:25 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Because that could lead to chaos! ;-) It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to convert to local if required. Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and perhaps now the community site. Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) i mean for sysadmins you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people set it their way. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Flippin Well Simple. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > FWS ??? > > Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: > > Suggestion (to save inboxes) > > > > Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have > > > > export.inc as the default > > > > if > > > > export_modified.inc exists > > > > then this is loaded instead of export > > > > so you can have your own interface? > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell > > wrote: > > For me the real value of the local export is this: > > > > User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to > link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they > import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are > accessing from XOT all fine. > > > > Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author > then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to > local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to > local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's > may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so > connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the > media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially where assets are shared or updated regularly. > > > > The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point > 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make > those two links in that line? > > And what do we do with 'local' > > All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo > somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we > only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. > > Tom > > Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, lets do that. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and > effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to > swap 1 and 3 > > > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > or importing into another XOT install > > 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > >> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< > > > > I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't > developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might > start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the > same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the > way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's > installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday > who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and > exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a > selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but > please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > > > >> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as >> self contained deployment - or is this different?< > > > > In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than > scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to > index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from > XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and > obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another > reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are > often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module > settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking > isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are > tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. > > > > So tweaking your list... > > > > 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > or importing into another XOT install > > 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: > > > > Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > self contained deployment - or is this different?) > > Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this > is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? > > > > That's all of them? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. > > > > In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the > originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. > 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' > > > > Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows > -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future. > I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, > connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than > there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, > with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. > > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. > > > > It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at > different locations. When these projects are imported, the project > folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to > happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just > easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving > install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). > > > > The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever > zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. > > > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media > in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of > not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? > > > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe > keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have > to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously > the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this > context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files > required to edit as part of all the exports? > > > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to > local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how > to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if > there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload > to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. > This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place > so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or > localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. > The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... > and then get rid of option 3. > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Have committed that small mod. > > > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > > > I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url > link > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder > but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links > > > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota > to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a > different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I > guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert > the links to local links if the same lo. > > > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the > moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported > with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but > then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the > file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. > > > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > properties >> media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. > > > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > > > > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > it is doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: > > > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. > > > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the > project > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you > guys > > last week... :-) > > > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that > there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads > of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each > filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports > it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? > Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include > all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via > text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document > rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular > page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they > might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might > not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes > that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size > they > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. > owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might > simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the > /language > > folder > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only > if those > > models are used > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of > scorm in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. > Comitted > > thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a > > password in the database... ;-) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: > > i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might > > conflict. > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > I will, but they are really simple. > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: > > Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones > > might have hungry regexs? > > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin > > wrote: > > On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: > > > > i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers > > Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) > > > > David. > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri May 11 11:28:40 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:28:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF4D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF4D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I found out recently that if you have Xerte open with a debug window open, then publish your project, when you run your project in a web browser it will output the debug statements to the debug window. I was thinking more of something that would stop and step through operation for situations in which Xerte dies on you. So that you could put in break points. Having slept on my particular programming problem I now have some useful ideas were to start looking for the offending code - time to go looking is another matter :-( Kind regards Johnathan On 11 May 2012 08:55, Julian Tenney wrote: > getURL(?javascript:alert(? + yourDebugMessage + ?);?); > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 23:09 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Debugging Xerte > > > > I am updating the scenario connector page to make it easier to use and > have hit a situation where adding a particular xml element in the xwd form > results in xerte locking up. > > > > Is there any way of executing a preview or publishing the project and then > viewing it in a browser such that it is possible to use some kind of > debugging tool so that I can trace the progress of the code? > > > > Of have I got to do it the hard way and start commenting out blocks of > code :-( > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 11:29:38 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:29:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF4D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I found out recently that if you have Xerte open with a debug window open, then publish your project, when you run your project in a web browser it will output the debug statements to the debug window. Blimey. That has never occurred to me. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 11 May 2012 11:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte I found out recently that if you have Xerte open with a debug window open, then publish your project, when you run your project in a web browser it will output the debug statements to the debug window. I was thinking more of something that would stop and step through operation for situations in which Xerte dies on you. So that you could put in break points. Having slept on my particular programming problem I now have some useful ideas were to start looking for the offending code - time to go looking is another matter :-( Kind regards Johnathan On 11 May 2012 08:55, Julian Tenney > wrote: getURL('javascript:alert(' + yourDebugMessage + ');'); From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 10 May 2012 23:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Debugging Xerte I am updating the scenario connector page to make it easier to use and have hit a situation where adding a particular xml element in the xwd form results in xerte locking up. Is there any way of executing a preview or publishing the project and then viewing it in a browser such that it is possible to use some kind of debugging tool so that I can trace the progress of the code? Of have I got to do it the hard way and start commenting out blocks of code :-( Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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That has never occurred to me. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:29 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte > > > > I found out recently that if you have Xerte open with a debug window open, > then publish your project, when you run your project in a web browser it > will output the debug statements to the debug window. > > > > I was thinking more of something that would stop and step through operation > for situations in which Xerte dies on you. So that you could put in break > points. > > > > Having slept on my particular programming problem I now have some useful > ideas were to start looking for the offending code - time to go looking is > another matter :-( > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 11 May 2012 08:55, Julian Tenney wrote: > > getURL(?javascript:alert(? + yourDebugMessage + ?);?); > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 10 May 2012 23:09 > To: Xerte Developers Discussion List > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Debugging Xerte > > > > I am updating the scenario connector page to make it easier to use and have > hit a situation where adding a particular xml element in the xwd form > results in xerte locking up. > > > > Is there any way of executing a preview or publishing the project and then > viewing it in a browser such that it is possible to use some kind of > debugging tool so that I can trace the progress of the code? > > > > Of have I got to do it the hard way and start commenting out blocks of code > :-( > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 11:41:22 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:41:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF4D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0AA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Exactly, because the swf in the browser can talk to the swf in the editor. No sarcasm, I've honestly never thought about that. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 May 2012 11:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte caching the local connection (unless sarcasm) On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I found out recently that if you have Xerte open with a debug window open, > then publish your project, when you run your project in a web browser it > will output the debug statements to the debug window. > > > > Blimey. That has never occurred to me. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:29 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte > > > > I found out recently that if you have Xerte open with a debug window open, > then publish your project, when you run your project in a web browser it > will output the debug statements to the debug window. > > > > I was thinking more of something that would stop and step through operation > for situations in which Xerte dies on you. So that you could put in break > points. > > > > Having slept on my particular programming problem I now have some useful > ideas were to start looking for the offending code - time to go looking is > another matter :-( > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 11 May 2012 08:55, Julian Tenney wrote: > > getURL('javascript:alert(' + yourDebugMessage + ');'); > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 10 May 2012 23:09 > To: Xerte Developers Discussion List > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Debugging Xerte > > > > I am updating the scenario connector page to make it easier to use and have > hit a situation where adding a particular xml element in the xwd form > results in xerte locking up. > > > > Is there any way of executing a preview or publishing the project and then > viewing it in a browser such that it is possible to use some kind of > debugging tool so that I can trace the progress of the code? > > > > Of have I got to do it the hard way and start commenting out blocks of code > :-( > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 11 11:46:50 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:46:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0AA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF4D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0AA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: When i did the OSLS thing, I got this all the time (in the end I had two debuggers, one for online, one for local). I also think, it might be a security issue? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Exactly, because the swf in the browser can talk to the swf in the editor. No sarcasm, I've honestly never thought about that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:41 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte > > caching the local connection (unless sarcasm) > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> I found out recently that if you have Xerte open with a debug window open, >> then publish your project, when you run your project in a web browser it >> will output the debug statements to the debug window. >> >> >> >> Blimey. That has never occurred to me. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 11 May 2012 11:29 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte >> >> >> >> I found out recently that if you have Xerte open with a debug window open, >> then publish your project, when you run your project in a web browser it >> will output the debug statements to the debug window. >> >> >> >> I was thinking more of something that would stop and step through operation >> for situations in which Xerte dies on you. So that you could put in break >> points. >> >> >> >> Having slept on my particular programming problem I now have some useful >> ideas were to start looking for the offending code - time to go looking is >> another matter :-( >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 11 May 2012 08:55, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> getURL('javascript:alert(' + yourDebugMessage + ');'); >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 10 May 2012 23:09 >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Debugging Xerte >> >> >> >> I am updating the scenario connector page to make it easier to use and have >> hit a situation where adding a particular xml element in the xwd form >> results in xerte locking up. >> >> >> >> Is there any way of executing a preview or publishing the project and then >> viewing it in a browser such that it is possible to use some kind of >> debugging tool so that I can trace the progress of the code? >> >> >> >> Of have I got to do it the hard way and start commenting out blocks of code >> :-( >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri May 11 11:48:41 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:48:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA3 1562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00ec01cd2f63$a34ad2b0$e9e07810$@co.uk> ok here goes - revision of what we have right now... There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. Export: 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle (without SCORM tracking), sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT installation. Checkbox (unchecked by default) Convert to local links where possible Tick here if you want references to files uploaded to this LO via the Media & Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required. 2. Archive export. Complete backup including all required files for offline editing with the Xerte developer application or for sharing with other Xerte developer application users. If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. SCORM Export: 4.SCORM 1.2 package 5.SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 11:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and perhaps now the community site. No, I think we need to find the words to explain the scenario for this option on the tab. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 11:25 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Because that could lead to chaos! ;-) It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to convert to local if required. Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and perhaps now the community site. Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) i mean for sysadmins you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people set it their way. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Flippin Well Simple. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > FWS ??? > > Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: > > Suggestion (to save inboxes) > > > > Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have > > > > export.inc as the default > > > > if > > > > export_modified.inc exists > > > > then this is loaded instead of export > > > > so you can have your own interface? > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell > > wrote: > > For me the real value of the local export is this: > > > > User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to > link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they > import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are > accessing from XOT all fine. > > > > Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author > then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to > local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to > local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's > may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so > connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the > media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially where assets are shared or updated regularly. > > > > The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point > 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make > those two links in that line? > > And what do we do with 'local' > > All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo > somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we > only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. > > Tom > > Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, lets do that. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and > effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to > swap 1 and 3 > > > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > or importing into another XOT install > > 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > >> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< > > > > I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't > developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might > start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the > same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the > way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's > installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday > who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and > exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a > selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but > please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > > > >> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as >> self contained deployment - or is this different?< > > > > In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than > scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to > index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from > XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and > obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another > reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are > often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module > settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking > isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are > tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a > need for non-scorm deployment. > > > > So tweaking your list... > > > > 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > or importing into another XOT install > > 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: > > > > Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > self contained deployment - or is this different?) > > Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this > is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? > > > > That's all of them? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. > > > > In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the > originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. > 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' > > > > Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows > -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in > -> the future. > I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, > connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than > there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, > with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / > referenced in the project. > > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. > > > > It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at > different locations. When these projects are imported, the project > folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to > happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just > easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving > install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with > the receiving systems models / engine etc?). > > > > The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever > zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. > > > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media > in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of > not including the files required to edit unless including them causes > a problem? > > > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe > keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have > to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously > the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this > context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files > required to edit as part of all the exports? > > > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to > local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how > to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if > there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload > to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. > This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place > so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or > localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. > The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... > and then get rid of option 3. > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Have committed that small mod. > > > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > > > I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url > link > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder > but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links > > > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota > to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a > different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I > guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert > the links to local links if the same lo. > > > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the > moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported > with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but > then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the > file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. > > > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > properties >> media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. > > > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > > > > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > it is doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so > it might read: > > > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. > > > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the > project > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you > guys > > last week... :-) > > > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that > there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads > of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each > filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports > it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? > Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include > all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via > text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document > rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular > page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they > might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might > not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes > that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size > they > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. > owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might > simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the > /language > > folder > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only > if those > > models are used > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of > scorm in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. > Comitted > > thos as well. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 11 11:50:05 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:50:05 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <00ec01cd2f63$a34ad2b0$e9e07810$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA3 1562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ec01cd2f63$a34ad2b0$e9e07810$@co. uk> Message-ID: <4FACEEDD.1040009@tor.nl> Ehmmm, can we get to a consensus ... This is what I have up and running now... Op 11-5-2012 12:48, Ron Mitchell schreef: > ok here goes - revision of what we have right now... > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, > but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to > deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can > choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files > used by the project. > > Export: > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing > into a vle (without SCORM tracking), sharing via CD or USB etc or importing > into another XOT installation. > > Checkbox (unchecked by default) Convert to local links where possible > Tick here if you want references to files uploaded to this LO via the Media > & Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required. > > > 2. Archive export. Complete backup including all required files for offline > editing with the Xerte developer application or for sharing with other Xerte > developer application users. > > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or > SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the > SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > > SCORM Export: > > 4.SCORM 1.2 package > > 5.SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > >> Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be > covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and > perhaps now the community site. > > No, I think we need to find the words to explain the scenario for this > option on the tab. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:25 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Because that could lead to chaos! ;-) > > It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to > convert to local if required. > > Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be > covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and > perhaps now the community site. > > Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > i mean for sysadmins > > you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people > set it their way. > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Flippin Well Simple. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> FWS ??? >> >> Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> Suggestion (to save inboxes) >> >> >> >> Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have >> >> >> >> export.inc as the default >> >> >> >> if >> >> >> >> export_modified.inc exists >> >> >> >> then this is loaded instead of export >> >> >> >> so you can have your own interface? >> >> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell >> >> wrote: >> >> For me the real value of the local export is this: >> >> >> >> User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to >> link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they >> import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are >> accessing from XOT all fine. >> >> >> >> Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author >> then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to >> local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to >> local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's >> may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so >> connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the >> media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially > where assets are shared or updated regularly. >> >> >> The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point >> 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make >> those two links in that line? >> >> And what do we do with 'local' >> >> All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo >> somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we >> only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. >> >> Tom >> >> Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> OK, lets do that. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and >> effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to >> swap 1 and 3 >> >> >> >> 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for >> importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc >> or importing into another XOT install >> >> 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM >> 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook >> >> 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and >> round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >>> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< >> >> >> I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't >> developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might >> start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the >> same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the >> way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's >> installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday >> who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and >> exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a >> selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but >> please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? >> >> >> >>> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as >>> self contained deployment - or is this different?< >> >> >> In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than >> scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to >> index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from >> XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and >> obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another >> reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are >> often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module >> settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking >> isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are >> tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a >> need > for non-scorm deployment. >> >> >> So tweaking your list... >> >> >> >> 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and >> round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. >> >> 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for >> importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc >> or importing into another XOT install >> >> 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM >> 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: >> >> >> >> Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 >> >> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as >> self contained deployment - or is this different?) >> >> Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this >> is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? >> >> >> >> That's all of them? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. >> >> >> >> In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the >> originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. >> 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' >> >> >> >> Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows >> -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in >> -> the > future. >> I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, >> connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than >> there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, >> with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / >> referenced in > the project. >> >> >> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. >> >> >> >> It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at >> different locations. When these projects are imported, the project >> folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to >> happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just >> easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving >> install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with >> the > receiving systems models / engine etc?). >> >> >> The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever >> zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. >> >> >> >> However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media >> in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of >> not including the files required to edit unless including them causes >> a > problem? >> >> >> Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe >> keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have >> to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously >> the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this >> context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files >> required to edit as part of all the exports? >> >> >> >> Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to >> local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how >> to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if >> there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload >> to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. >> This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place >> so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or >> localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. >> The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. >> >> I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... >> and then get rid of option 3. >> >> Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Have committed that small mod. >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... >> >> >> >> I upload a file via properties> media& quota and copy that full url >> link >> >> I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere >> >> >> >> export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder >> but the link to the file added via media& quota remain full url links >> >> >> >> export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota >> to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. >> >> >> >> I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a >> different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I >> guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert >> the links to local links if the same lo. >> >> >> >> However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the >> moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported >> with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but >> then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the >> file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. >> >> >> >> In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via >> properties >>> media& quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is > uploaded. >> >> >> I'll add these issues to the Google doc. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) >> >> Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Hi Tom >> >> on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy >> that has

in the relevant places e.g. >> >> >> >> >> >> Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each >> link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> How about this for now? >> >> >> >> Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> >> I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what >> it is doing. >> >> Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I >> might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so >> it > might read: >> >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is >> packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with >> another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM >> compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the >> project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some > explanation around option 3 here]. >> >> >> Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project >> >> Zip Archive with just the media files used in the >> project >> >> Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda >> >> >> >> If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM >> 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM >> you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. >> >> >> >> Export Scorm 1.2 Package >> >> Scorm 2004 Package. >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the >> point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Yep. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you >> guys >> >> last week... :-) >> >> >> >> I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the >> >> functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? >> >> >> >> Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? >> >> >> >> Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. >> >> >> >> I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that >> there >> >> are 5 exports: >> >> >> >> Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or >> >> mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to >> >> look at that. >> >> >> >> Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls >> >> >> >> SCORM 1.2 >> >> >> >> SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data >> >> >> >> SCORM 2004 >> >> >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use >> >> SCORM with extra MetaData) >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads >> of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each >> filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports >> it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. >> >> >> >> Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? >> Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get > something out. >> >> >> Are these changes on the test server now? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, >> >> The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the >> >> export/download discussion. >> >> >> >> Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Hi >> >> Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& >> >> Friday... >> >> >> >> Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include >> all >> >> the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being >> >> sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via >> text >> >> hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document >> rather than >> >> a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular >> page >> >> or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they >> might >> >> not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might >> not >> >> work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes >> that >> >> export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size >> they >> >> can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. >> owner >> >> should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might >> simply be >> >> as a backup of the whole project. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> I just committed an update to the export code: >> >> >> >> Fixes and additions for export >> >> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >> /language >> >> folder >> >> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >> >> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only >> if those >> >> models are used >> >> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >> >> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >> >> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >> >> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >> >> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >> scorm in >> >> in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >> >> >> >> >> >> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >> >> >> >> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >> Comitted >> >> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >> >> password in the database... ;-) >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >> >> conflict. >> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> >> I will, but they are really simple. >> >> >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >> >> might have hungry regexs? >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >> >> wrote: >> >> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >> >> >> >> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >> >> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >> >> >> >> David. >> >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: cihgajfd.png Type: image/png Size: 85423 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 11:51:17 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:51:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF4D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0AA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0C2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I also think, it might be a security issue? You can write code in the debug window, and execute it in the engine swf. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 May 2012 11:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte When i did the OSLS thing, I got this all the time (in the end I had two debuggers, one for online, one for local). I also think, it might be a security issue? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Exactly, because the swf in the browser can talk to the swf in the editor. No sarcasm, I've honestly never thought about that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:41 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte > > caching the local connection (unless sarcasm) > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> I found out recently that if you have Xerte open with a debug window open, >> then publish your project, when you run your project in a web browser it >> will output the debug statements to the debug window. >> >> >> >> Blimey. That has never occurred to me. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 11 May 2012 11:29 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Debugging Xerte >> >> >> >> I found out recently that if you have Xerte open with a debug window open, >> then publish your project, when you run your project in a web browser it >> will output the debug statements to the debug window. >> >> >> >> I was thinking more of something that would stop and step through operation >> for situations in which Xerte dies on you. So that you could put in break >> points. >> >> >> >> Having slept on my particular programming problem I now have some useful >> ideas were to start looking for the offending code - time to go looking is >> another matter :-( >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 11 May 2012 08:55, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> getURL('javascript:alert(' + yourDebugMessage + ');'); >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 10 May 2012 23:09 >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Debugging Xerte >> >> >> >> I am updating the scenario connector page to make it easier to use and have >> hit a situation where adding a particular xml element in the xwd form >> results in xerte locking up. >> >> >> >> Is there any way of executing a preview or publishing the project and then >> viewing it in a browser such that it is possible to use some kind of >> debugging tool so that I can trace the progress of the code? >> >> >> >> Of have I got to do it the hard way and start commenting out blocks of code >> :-( >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 11:50:57 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:50:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FACEEDD.1040009@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA3 1562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ec01cd2f63$a34ad2b0$e9e07810$@co. uk> <4FACEEDD.1040009@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, this is what we have and Ron's words describe it well! Thanks everyone. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 11:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Ehmmm, can we get to a consensus ... This is what I have up and running now... [cid:image001.png at 01CD2F6C.53E60790] Op 11-5-2012 12:48, Ron Mitchell schreef: ok here goes - revision of what we have right now... There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. Export: 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle (without SCORM tracking), sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT installation. Checkbox (unchecked by default) Convert to local links where possible Tick here if you want references to files uploaded to this LO via the Media & Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required. 2. Archive export. Complete backup including all required files for offline editing with the Xerte developer application or for sharing with other Xerte developer application users. If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. SCORM Export: 4.SCORM 1.2 package 5.SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 11:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and perhaps now the community site. No, I think we need to find the words to explain the scenario for this option on the tab. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 11:25 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Because that could lead to chaos! ;-) It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to convert to local if required. Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and perhaps now the community site. Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) i mean for sysadmins you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people set it their way. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: Flippin Well Simple. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) FWS ??? Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: Suggestion (to save inboxes) Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have export.inc as the default if export_modified.inc exists then this is loaded instead of export so you can have your own interface? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: For me the real value of the local export is this: User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are accessing from XOT all fine. Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially where assets are shared or updated regularly. The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make those two links in that line? And what do we do with 'local' All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. Tom Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, lets do that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to swap 1 and 3 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?< In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. So tweaking your list... 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?) Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? That's all of them? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in -> the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 85423 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 11 11:49:00 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:49:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <00ec01cd2f63$a34ad2b0$e9e07810$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAA472C.60806@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF43D9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAB7F59.7080902@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD67@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FABF1B3.5020108@tor.nl> <011101cd2ee2$8f9f49c0$aedddd40$@co.uk> <4FAC1684.1060701@tor.nl> <012f01cd2ee8$08984660$19c8d320$@co.uk> <4FAC229F.2030708@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA3 1562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ec01cd2f63$a34ad2b0$e9e07810$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Magic! -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 11:49 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) ok here goes - revision of what we have right now... There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. Export: 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle (without SCORM tracking), sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT installation. Checkbox (unchecked by default) Convert to local links where possible Tick here if you want references to files uploaded to this LO via the Media & Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required. 2. Archive export. Complete backup including all required files for offline editing with the Xerte developer application or for sharing with other Xerte developer application users. If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. SCORM Export: 4.SCORM 1.2 package 5.SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 11:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and perhaps now the community site. No, I think we need to find the words to explain the scenario for this option on the tab. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 11:25 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Because that could lead to chaos! ;-) It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to convert to local if required. Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and perhaps now the community site. Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) i mean for sysadmins you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people set it their way. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Flippin Well Simple. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > FWS ??? > > Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: > > Suggestion (to save inboxes) > > > > Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have > > > > export.inc as the default > > > > if > > > > export_modified.inc exists > > > > then this is loaded instead of export > > > > so you can have your own interface? > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell > > wrote: > > For me the real value of the local export is this: > > > > User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to > link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they > import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are > accessing from XOT all fine. > > > > Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author > then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to > local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to > local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's > may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so > connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the > media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially where assets are shared or updated regularly. > > > > The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point > 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make > those two links in that line? > > And what do we do with 'local' > > All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo > somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we > only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. > > Tom > > Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, lets do that. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and > effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to > swap 1 and 3 > > > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > or importing into another XOT install > > 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > >> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< > > > > I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't > developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might > start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the > same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the > way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's > installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday > who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and > exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a > selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but > please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > > > >> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as >> self contained deployment - or is this different?< > > > > In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than > scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to > index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from > XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and > obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another > reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are > often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module > settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking > isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are > tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a > need for non-scorm deployment. > > > > So tweaking your list... > > > > 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > or importing into another XOT install > > 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: > > > > Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > self contained deployment - or is this different?) > > Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this > is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? > > > > That's all of them? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. > > > > In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the > originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. > 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' > > > > Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows > -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in > -> the future. > I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, > connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than > there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, > with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / > referenced in the project. > > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. > > > > It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at > different locations. When these projects are imported, the project > folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to > happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just > easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving > install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with > the receiving systems models / engine etc?). > > > > The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever > zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. > > > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media > in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of > not including the files required to edit unless including them causes > a problem? > > > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe > keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have > to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously > the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this > context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files > required to edit as part of all the exports? > > > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to > local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how > to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if > there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload > to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. > This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place > so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or > localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. > The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... > and then get rid of option 3. > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Have committed that small mod. > > > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > > > I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url > link > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder > but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links > > > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota > to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a > different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I > guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert > the links to local links if the same lo. > > > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the > moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported > with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but > then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the > file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. > > > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > properties >> media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. > > > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > > > > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > How about this for now? > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > it is doing. > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so > it might read: > > > > --------------------------------------- > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. > > > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the > project > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yep. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you > guys > > last week... :-) > > > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that > there > > are 5 exports: > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > look at that. > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > Tom > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads > of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each > filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports > it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? > Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > export/download discussion. > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > Friday... > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include > all > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via > text > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document > rather than > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular > page > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they > might > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might > not > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes > that > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size > they > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. > owner > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might > simply be > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the > /language > > folder > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only > if those > > models are used > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of > scorm in > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. > Comitted > > thos as well. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 11 12:02:01 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 13:02:01 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA3 1562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ec01cd2f63$a34ad2b0$e9e07810$@co. uk> <4FACEEDD.1040009@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FACF1A9.7070005@tor.nl> I committed the code and the UI of the last screen dump. This also fixes the SCORM 2004 export. It is not trivila (for me) to add the checkbox, so I haven't done that (yet). That leaves only one question for me at the moment. To go 'local' or not to go 'local'... and for which exports.... Op 11-5-2012 12:50, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yes, this is what we have and Ron's words describe it well! > > Thanks everyone. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 11:50 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Ehmmm, can we get to a consensus ... > > This is what I have up and running now... > > > > Op 11-5-2012 12:48, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > ok here goes - revision of what we have right now... > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, > but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to > deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can > choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files > used by the project. > > Export: > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing > into a vle (without SCORM tracking), sharing via CD or USB etc or importing > into another XOT installation. > > Checkbox (unchecked by default) Convert to local links where possible > Tick here if you want references to files uploaded to this LO via the Media > & Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required. > > > 2. Archive export. Complete backup including all required files for offline > editing with the Xerte developer application or for sharing with other Xerte > developer application users. > > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or > SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the > SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > > SCORM Export: > > 4.SCORM 1.2 package > > 5.SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be > > covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and > perhaps now the community site. > > No, I think we need to find the words to explain the scenario for this > option on the tab. > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:25 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Because that could lead to chaos! ;-) > > It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to > convert to local if required. > > Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be > covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and > perhaps now the community site. > > Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox? > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > i mean for sysadmins > > you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people > set it their way. > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Flippin Well Simple. > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 > > > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > FWS ??? > > > > Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: > > > > Suggestion (to save inboxes) > > > > > > > > Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have > > > > > > > > export.inc as the default > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > export_modified.inc exists > > > > > > > > then this is loaded instead of export > > > > > > > > so you can have your own interface? > > > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell > > > > wrote: > > > > For me the real value of the local export is this: > > > > > > > > User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to > > link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they > > import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are > > accessing from XOT all fine. > > > > > > > > Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author > > then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to > > local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to > > local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's > > may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so > > connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the > > media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially > > where assets are shared or updated regularly. > > > > > > > > The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point > > 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make > > those two links in that line? > > > > And what do we do with 'local' > > > > All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo > > somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we > > only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. > > > > Tom > > > > Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > > OK, lets do that. > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > > Mitchell > > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and > > effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to > > swap 1 and 3 > > > > > > > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > > importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > > or importing into another XOT install > > > > 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > > > 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > > > > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > > Tenney > > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > > Mitchell > > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< > > > > > > > > I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't > > developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might > > start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the > > same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the > > way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's > > installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday > > who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and > > exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a > > selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but > > please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > > > > > > > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > > self contained deployment - or is this different?< > > > > > > > > In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than > > scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to > > index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from > > XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and > > obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another > > reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are > > often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module > > settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking > > isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are > > tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a > > need > > for non-scorm deployment. > > > > > > > > So tweaking your list... > > > > > > > > 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > > > 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > > importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > > or importing into another XOT install > > > > 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > > Tenney > > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: > > > > > > > > Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > > > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > > self contained deployment - or is this different?) > > > > Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this > > is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? > > > > > > > > That's all of them? > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > > Tenney > > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. > > > > > > > > In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the > > originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. > > 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' > > > > > > > > Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows > > -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in > > -> the > > future. > > I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, > > connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than > > there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, > > with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / > > referenced in > > the project. > > > > > > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. > > > > > > > > It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at > > different locations. When these projects are imported, the project > > folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to > > happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just > > easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving > > install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with > > the > > receiving systems models / engine etc?). > > > > > > > > The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. > > > > > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > > Mitchell > > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever > > zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. > > > > > > > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media > > in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of > > not including the files required to edit unless including them causes > > a > > problem? > > > > > > > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe > > keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have > > to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously > > the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this > > context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files > > required to edit as part of all the exports? > > > > > > > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to > > local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how > > to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if > > there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload > > to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. > > This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place > > so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or > > localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. > > The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... > > and then get rid of option 3. > > > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > > > Have committed that small mod. > > > > > > > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > > > > > > > I upload a file via properties> media& quota and copy that full url > > link > > > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > > > > > > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder > > but the link to the file added via media& quota remain full url links > > > > > > > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota > > to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > > > > > > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a > > different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I > > guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert > > the links to local links if the same lo. > > > > > > > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the > > moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported > > with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but > > then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the > > file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. > > > > > > > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > > properties > > media& quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is > > uploaded. > > > > > > > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > > > Hi Tom > > > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > > Mitchell > > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > How about this for now? > > > > > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > > it is doing. > > > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so > > it > > might read: > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some > > explanation around option 3 here]. > > > > > > > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the > > project > > > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > > > > > > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM > > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > > > > > > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > > Yep. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > > > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you > > guys > > > > last week... :-) > > > > > > > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > > > > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > > > > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that > > there > > > > are 5 exports: > > > > > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > > > look at that. > > > > > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads > > of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each > > filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports > > it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? > > Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get > > something out. > > > > > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > > > export/download discussion. > > > > > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > > > Hi > > > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > > > Friday... > > > > > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include > > all > > > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via > > text > > > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document > > rather than > > > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular > > page > > > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they > > might > > > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might > > not > > > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes > > that > > > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size > > they > > > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. > > owner > > > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might > > simply be > > > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the > > /language > > > > folder > > > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only > > if those > > > > models are used > > > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of > > scorm in > > > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. > > Comitted > > > > thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a > > > > password in the database... ;-) > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: > > > > i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might > > > > conflict. > > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > > > I will, but they are really simple. > > > > > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: > > > > Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones > > > > might have hungry regexs? > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin > > > > wrote: > > > > On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: > > > > > > > > i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers > > > > Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) > > > > > > > > David. > > > > > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri May 11 12:25:48 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:25:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FACF1A9.7070005@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA3 1562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ec01cd2f63$a34ad2b0$e9e07810$@co. uk> <4FACEEDD.1040009@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACF1A9.7070005@tor.nl> Message-ID: <010a01cd2f68$d2df5b90$789e12b0$@co.uk> Thanks Tom Have uploaded to the test install but the 2004 export doesn't appear to be fixed? Now loads the workspace in the properties window rather than a blank window as previously. Is it easier to just have the local export link like previously rather than the checkbox and just change the wording slightly? Export for deployment with local links Same as above but select this option if you want references to files uploaded to this LO via the Media & Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required. Not sure if the convert to local functionality has ever been part of the SCORM export or whether it should be or not. Do you still have plans to get the SCORM tracking to work from XOT rather than exporting everything? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 12:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I committed the code and the UI of the last screen dump. This also fixes the SCORM 2004 export. It is not trivila (for me) to add the checkbox, so I haven't done that (yet). That leaves only one question for me at the moment. To go 'local' or not to go 'local'... and for which exports.... Op 11-5-2012 12:50, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, this is what we have and Ron's words describe it well! Thanks everyone. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 11:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Ehmmm, can we get to a consensus ... This is what I have up and running now... Op 11-5-2012 12:48, Ron Mitchell schreef: ok here goes - revision of what we have right now... There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. Export: 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle (without SCORM tracking), sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT installation. Checkbox (unchecked by default) Convert to local links where possible Tick here if you want references to files uploaded to this LO via the Media & Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required. 2. Archive export. Complete backup including all required files for offline editing with the Xerte developer application or for sharing with other Xerte developer application users. If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. SCORM Export: 4.SCORM 1.2 package 5.SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 11:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and perhaps now the community site. No, I think we need to find the words to explain the scenario for this option on the tab. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 11:25 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Because that could lead to chaos! ;-) It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to convert to local if required. Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and perhaps now the community site. Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) i mean for sysadmins you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people set it their way. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: Flippin Well Simple. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) FWS ??? Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: Suggestion (to save inboxes) Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have export.inc as the default if export_modified.inc exists then this is loaded instead of export so you can have your own interface? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: For me the real value of the local export is this: User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are accessing from XOT all fine. Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially where assets are shared or updated regularly. The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make those two links in that line? And what do we do with 'local' All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. Tom Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, lets do that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to swap 1 and 3 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?< In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a need for non-scorm deployment. So tweaking your list... 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self contained deployment - or is this different?) Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? That's all of them? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in -> the future. I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project. AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?). The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem? Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as part of all the exports? Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and then get rid of option 3. Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: Have committed that small mod. As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links if the same lo. However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded. I'll add these issues to the Google doc. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has

in the relevant places e.g. Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) How about this for now? Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is doing. Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so it might read: --------------------------------------- There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here]. Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. Export Scorm 1.2 Package Scorm 2004 Package. --------------------------------------- Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Yep. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys last week... :-) I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there are 5 exports: Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to look at that. Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls SCORM 1.2 SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data SCORM 2004 As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use SCORM with extra MetaData) Tom Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out. Are these changes on the test server now? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the export/download discussion. Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& Friday... Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be as a backup of the whole project. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) I just committed an update to the export code: Fixes and additions for export - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language folder - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those models are used - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied - small fixes in htaccess.conf - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php - get rid of superfuous scorm files - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a password in the database... ;-) Tom Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might conflict. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: I will, but they are really simple. Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones might have hungry regexs? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin wrote: On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 11 12:40:15 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 13:40:15 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <010a01cd2f68$d2df5b90$789e12b0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA3 1562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ec01cd2f63$a34ad2b0$e9e07810$@co. uk> <4FACEEDD.1040009@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACF1A9.7070005@tor.nl> <010a01cd2f68$d2df5b90$789e12b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FACFA9F.3060802@tor.nl> Oops... typo in the template. And yes it would be easier, but then we are back to the old discussion.... And yes, I still plan to make it possible to only create a manifest to upload for example in moodle and then use the contents from XOT. But that is still really under development. There are some gotchas in there... Tom Op 11-5-2012 13:25, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Thanks Tom > > Have uploaded to the test install but the 2004 export doesn't appear > to be fixed? Now loads the workspace in the properties window rather > than a blank window as previously. > > Is it easier to just have the local export link like previously rather > than the checkbox and just change the wording slightly? > > Export for deployment with local links > > Same as above but select this option if you want references to files > uploaded to this LO via the Media > > & Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required. > > Not sure if the convert to local functionality has ever been part of > the SCORM export or whether it should be or not. Do you still have > plans to get the SCORM tracking to work from XOT rather than exporting > everything? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 12:02 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > I committed the code and the UI of the last screen dump. This also > fixes the SCORM 2004 export. > > It is not trivila (for me) to add the checkbox, so I haven't done that > (yet). That leaves only one question for me at the moment. > > To go 'local' or not to go 'local'... and for which exports.... > > Op 11-5-2012 12:50, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yes, this is what we have and Ron's words describe it well! > > Thanks everyone. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 11:50 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Ehmmm, can we get to a consensus ... > > This is what I have up and running now... > > > > Op 11-5-2012 12:48, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > ok here goes - revision of what we have right now... > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, > but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to > deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can > choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files > used by the project. > > Export: > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing > into a vle (without SCORM tracking), sharing via CD or USB etc or importing > into another XOT installation. > > Checkbox (unchecked by default) Convert to local links where possible > Tick here if you want references to files uploaded to this LO via the Media > & Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required. > > > 2. Archive export. Complete backup including all required files for offline > editing with the Xerte developer application or for sharing with other Xerte > developer application users. > > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or > SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the > SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > > SCORM Export: > > 4.SCORM 1.2 package > > 5.SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be > > covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and > perhaps now the community site. > > No, I think we need to find the words to explain the scenario for this > option on the tab. > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:25 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > Because that could lead to chaos! ;-) > > It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to > convert to local if required. > > Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be > covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and > perhaps now the community site. > > Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox? > > -----Original Message----- > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > i mean for sysadmins > > you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people > set it their way. > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Flippin Well Simple. > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 > > > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > FWS ??? > > > > Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: > > > > Suggestion (to save inboxes) > > > > > > > > Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have > > > > > > > > export.inc as the default > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > export_modified.inc exists > > > > > > > > then this is loaded instead of export > > > > > > > > so you can have your own interface? > > > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell > > > > wrote: > > > > For me the real value of the local export is this: > > > > > > > > User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to > > link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they > > import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are > > accessing from XOT all fine. > > > > > > > > Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author > > then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to > > local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to > > local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's > > may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so > > connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the > > media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially > > where assets are shared or updated regularly. > > > > > > > > The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point > > 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make > > those two links in that line? > > > > And what do we do with 'local' > > > > All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo > > somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we > > only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. > > > > Tom > > > > Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > > OK, lets do that. > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > > Mitchell > > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and > > effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to > > swap 1 and 3 > > > > > > > > 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > > importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > > or importing into another XOT install > > > > 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > > > 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > > > > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > > Tenney > > Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > > Mitchell > > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< > > > > > > > > I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't > > developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might > > start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the > > same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the > > way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's > > installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday > > who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and > > exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a > > selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but > > please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? > > > > > > > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > > self contained deployment - or is this different?< > > > > > > > > In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than > > scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to > > index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from > > XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and > > obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another > > reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are > > often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module > > settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking > > isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are > > tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a > > need > > for non-scorm deployment. > > > > > > > > So tweaking your list... > > > > > > > > 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and > > round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. > > > > 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for > > importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc > > or importing into another XOT install > > > > 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM > > 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > > Tenney > > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: > > > > > > > > Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 > > > > Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as > > self contained deployment - or is this different?) > > > > Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this > > is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? > > > > > > > > That's all of them? > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > > Tenney > > Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. > > > > > > > > In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the > > originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. > > 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' > > > > > > > > Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows > > -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in > > -> the > > future. > > I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, > > connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than > > there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, > > with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / > > referenced in > > the project. > > > > > > > > AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. > > > > > > > > It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at > > different locations. When these projects are imported, the project > > folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to > > happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just > > easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving > > install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with > > the > > receiving systems models / engine etc?). > > > > > > > > The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. > > > > > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > > Mitchell > > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever > > zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. > > > > > > > > However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media > > in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of > > not including the files required to edit unless including them causes > > a > > problem? > > > > > > > > Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe > > keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have > > to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously > > the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this > > context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files > > required to edit as part of all the exports? > > > > > > > > Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to > > local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how > > to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if > > there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload > > to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. > > This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place > > so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or > > localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. > > The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. > > > > I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... > > and then get rid of option 3. > > > > Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > > > Have committed that small mod. > > > > > > > > As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... > > > > > > > > I upload a file via properties> media& quota and copy that full url > > link > > > > I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere > > > > > > > > export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder > > but the link to the file added via media& quota remain full url links > > > > > > > > export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota > > to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. > > > > > > > > I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a > > different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I > > guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert > > the links to local links if the same lo. > > > > > > > > However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the > > moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported > > with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but > > then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the > > file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. > > > > > > > > In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via > > properties > > media& quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is > > uploaded. > > > > > > > > I'll add these issues to the Google doc. > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) > > > > Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > > > Hi Tom > > > > on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy > > that has

in the relevant places e.g. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > > Mitchell > > Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each > > link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > How about this for now? > > > > > > > > Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > > > I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what > > it is doing. > > > > Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > > Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I > > might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so > > it > > might read: > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is > > packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with > > another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM > > compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the > > project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some > > explanation around option 3 here]. > > > > > > > > Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project > > > > Zip Archive with just the media files used in the > > project > > > > Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda > > > > > > > > If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM > > 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM > > you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. > > > > > > > > Export Scorm 1.2 Package > > > > Scorm 2004 Package. > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the > > point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... > > > > > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > > > > > Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > > Yep. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > > > Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you > > guys > > > > last week... :-) > > > > > > > > I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the > > > > functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? > > > > > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > > Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? > > > > > > > > Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. > > > > > > > > I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > > > Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that > > there > > > > are 5 exports: > > > > > > > > Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or > > > > mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to > > > > look at that. > > > > > > > > Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls > > > > > > > > SCORM 1.2 > > > > > > > > SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data > > > > > > > > SCORM 2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use > > > > SCORM with extra MetaData) > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > > I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads > > of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each > > filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports > > it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. > > > > > > > > Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? > > Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get > > something out. > > > > > > > > Are these changes on the test server now? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > > > Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, > > > > The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the > > > > export/download discussion. > > > > > > > > Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > > > Hi > > > > Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& > > > > Friday... > > > > > > > > Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include > > all > > > > the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being > > > > sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via > > text > > > > hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document > > rather than > > > > a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular > > page > > > > or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they > > might > > > > not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might > > not > > > > work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes > > that > > > > export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size > > they > > > > can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. > > owner > > > > should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might > > simply be > > > > as a backup of the whole project. > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > > Reijnders > > > > Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 > > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) > > > > > > > > I just committed an update to the export code: > > > > > > > > Fixes and additions for export > > > > - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the > > /language > > > > folder > > > > - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export > > > > - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only > > if those > > > > models are used > > > > - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied > > > > - small fixes in htaccess.conf > > > > - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php > > > > - get rid of superfuous scorm files > > > > - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of > > scorm in > > > > in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... > > > > > > > > David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. > > Comitted > > > > thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a > > > > password in the database... ;-) > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: > > > > i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might > > > > conflict. > > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > > > I will, but they are really simple. > > > > > > > > Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: > > > > Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones > > > > might have hungry regexs? > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin > > > > wrote: > > > > On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: > > > > > > > > i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers > > > > Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) > > > > > > > > David. > > > > > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 11 12:41:16 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 13:41:16 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) In-Reply-To: <4FACFA9F.3060802@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF416C266@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001c01cd2f53$58980040$09c800c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFCF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004601cd2f56$91b31ce0$b51956a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AFFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACDA05.8040101@tor.nl> <007f01cd2f59$63e9e480$2bbdad80$@co.uk> <4FACE429.9030502@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA3 1562C3F0BF456B05E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00d401cd2f60$44875c60$cd961520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B08A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ec01cd2f63$a34ad2b0$e9e07810$@co. uk> <4FACEEDD.1040009@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B0BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FACF1A9.7070005@tor.nl> <010a01cd2f68$d2df5b90$789e12b0$@co.uk> <4FACFA9F.3060802@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FACFADC.6030004@tor.nl> Sorry I did not mention it is fixed and committed. Op 11-5-2012 13:40, Tom Reijnders schreef: > Oops... typo in the template. > > And yes it would be easier, but then we are back to the old discussion.... > > And yes, I still plan to make it possible to only create a manifest to > upload for example in moodle and then use the contents from XOT. But > that is still really under development. There are some gotchas in there... > > Tom > Op 11-5-2012 13:25, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Thanks Tom >> >> Have uploaded to the test install but the 2004 export doesn't appear >> to be fixed? Now loads the workspace in the properties window rather >> than a blank window as previously. >> >> Is it easier to just have the local export link like previously >> rather than the checkbox and just change the wording slightly? >> >> Export for deployment with local links >> >> Same as above but select this option if you want references to files >> uploaded to this LO via the Media >> >> & Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required. >> >> Not sure if the convert to local functionality has ever been part of >> the SCORM export or whether it should be or not. Do you still have >> plans to get the SCORM tracking to work from XOT rather than >> exporting everything? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom >> Reijnders >> *Sent:* 11 May 2012 12:02 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> I committed the code and the UI of the last screen dump. This also >> fixes the SCORM 2004 export. >> >> It is not trivila (for me) to add the checkbox, so I haven't done >> that (yet). That leaves only one question for me at the moment. >> >> To go 'local' or not to go 'local'... and for which exports.... >> >> Op 11-5-2012 12:50, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Yes, this is what we have and Ron's words describe it well! >> >> Thanks everyone. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom >> Reijnders >> *Sent:* 11 May 2012 11:50 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> Ehmmm, can we get to a consensus ... >> >> This is what I have up and running now... >> >> >> >> Op 11-5-2012 12:48, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> ok here goes - revision of what we have right now... >> >> There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, >> but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to >> deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can >> choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files >> used by the project. >> >> Export: >> >> 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing >> into a vle (without SCORM tracking), sharing via CD or USB etc or importing >> into another XOT installation. >> >> Checkbox (unchecked by default) Convert to local links where possible >> Tick here if you want references to files uploaded to this LO via the Media >> & Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required. >> >> >> 2. Archive export. Complete backup including all required files for offline >> editing with the Xerte developer application or for sharing with other Xerte >> developer application users. >> >> >> If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or >> SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the >> SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. >> >> >> SCORM Export: >> >> 4.SCORM 1.2 package >> >> 5.SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 11 May 2012 11:27 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be >> >> covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and >> perhaps now the community site. >> >> No, I think we need to find the words to explain the scenario for this >> option on the tab. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 11 May 2012 11:25 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> Because that could lead to chaos! ;-) >> >> It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to >> convert to local if required. >> >> Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be >> covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and >> perhaps now the community site. >> >> Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> i mean for sysadmins >> >> you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people >> set it their way. >> >> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Flippin Well Simple. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04 >> >> >> >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> FWS ??? >> >> >> >> Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> >> >> Suggestion (to save inboxes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> export.inc as the default >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> if >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> export_modified.inc exists >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> then this is loaded instead of export >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> so you can have your own interface? >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> For me the real value of the local export is this: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to >> >> link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they >> >> import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are >> >> accessing from XOT all fine. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author >> >> then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to >> >> local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to >> >> local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's >> >> may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so >> >> connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the >> >> media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially >> >> where assets are shared or updated regularly. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The checkbox option gives the author control which is great. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point >> >> 2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make >> >> those two links in that line? >> >> >> >> And what do we do with 'local' >> >> >> >> All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo >> >> somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we >> >> only need to figure out how to do the UI right now. >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> >> >> OK, lets do that. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> >> Mitchell >> >> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15 >> >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and >> >> effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to >> >> swap 1 and 3 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for >> >> importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc >> >> or importing into another XOT install >> >> >> >> 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM >> >> 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook >> >> >> >> 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and >> >> round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> >> Tenney >> >> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> >> Mitchell >> >> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52 >> >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.< >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't >> >> developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might >> >> start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the >> >> same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the >> >> way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's >> >> installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday >> >> who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and >> >> exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a >> >> selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but >> >> please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as >> >> self contained deployment - or is this different?< >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than >> >> scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to >> >> index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from >> >> XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and >> >> obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another >> >> reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are >> >> often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module >> >> settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking >> >> isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are >> >> tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a >> >> need >> >> for non-scorm deployment. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> So tweaking your list... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and >> >> round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. >> >> >> >> 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for >> >> importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc >> >> or importing into another XOT install >> >> >> >> 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM >> >> 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> >> Tenney >> >> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 >> >> >> >> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as >> >> self contained deployment - or is this different?) >> >> >> >> Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this >> >> is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That's all of them? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> >> Tenney >> >> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is starting to feel like a FWS failure. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the >> >> originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e. >> >> 'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/' >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows >> >> -> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in >> >> -> the >> >> future. >> >> I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly, >> >> connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than >> >> there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, >> >> with a minimal set of files, including only the media used / >> >> referenced in >> >> the project. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at >> >> different locations. When these projects are imported, the project >> >> folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to >> >> happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just >> >> easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving >> >> install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with >> >> the >> >> receiving systems models / engine etc?). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> >> Mitchell >> >> Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44 >> >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever >> >> zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media >> >> in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of >> >> not including the files required to edit unless including them causes >> >> a >> >> problem? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe >> >> keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have >> >> to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously >> >> the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this >> >> context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files >> >> required to edit as part of all the exports? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to >> >> local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how >> >> to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if >> >> there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload >> >> to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's. >> >> This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place >> >> so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or >> >> localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. >> >> The zip archives just contain the bare minimum. >> >> >> >> I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... >> >> and then get rid of option 3. >> >> >> >> Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> >> >> Have committed that small mod. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell option 3 works like this... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I upload a file via properties> media& quota and copy that full url >> >> link >> >> >> >> I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder >> >> but the link to the file added via media& quota remain full url links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota >> >> to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a >> >> different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I >> >> guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert >> >> the links to local links if the same lo. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the >> >> moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported >> >> with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but >> >> then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the >> >> file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via >> >> properties >> >> media& quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is >> >> uploaded. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'll add these issues to the Google doc. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-) >> >> >> >> Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> >> >> Hi Tom >> >> >> >> on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy >> >> that has

in the relevant places e.g. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> >> Mitchell >> >> Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09 >> >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each >> >> link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> How about this for now? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> >> >> >> I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what >> >> it is doing. >> >> >> >> Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> >> >> Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I >> >> might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so >> >> it >> >> might read: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is >> >> packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with >> >> another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM >> >> compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the >> >> project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some >> >> explanation around option 3 here]. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project >> >> >> >> Zip Archive with just the media files used in the >> >> project >> >> >> >> Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM >> >> 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM >> >> you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Export Scorm 1.2 Package >> >> >> >> Scorm 2004 Package. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the >> >> point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> >> Reijnders >> >> Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> >> >> Yep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> >> Reijnders >> >> >> >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30 >> >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you >> >> guys >> >> >> >> last week... :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the >> >> >> >> functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> >> >> Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> >> Reijnders >> >> >> >> Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52 >> >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that >> >> there >> >> >> >> are 5 exports: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or >> >> >> >> mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to >> >> >> >> look at that. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SCORM 1.2 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SCORM 2004 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use >> >> >> >> SCORM with extra MetaData) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> >> >> I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads >> >> of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each >> >> filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports >> >> it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? >> >> Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get >> >> something out. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are these changes on the test server now? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> >> Reijnders >> >> >> >> Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23 >> >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export, >> >> >> >> The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the >> >> >> >> export/download discussion. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs& >> >> >> >> Friday... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include >> >> all >> >> >> >> the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being >> >> >> >> sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via >> >> text >> >> >> >> hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document >> >> rather than >> >> >> >> a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular >> >> page >> >> >> >> or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they >> >> might >> >> >> >> not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might >> >> not >> >> >> >> work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes >> >> that >> >> >> >> export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size >> >> they >> >> >> >> can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. >> >> owner >> >> >> >> should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might >> >> simply be >> >> >> >> as a backup of the whole project. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> >> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> >> Reijnders >> >> >> >> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25 >> >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I just committed an update to the export code: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fixes and additions for export >> >> >> >> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the >> >> /language >> >> >> >> folder >> >> >> >> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export >> >> >> >> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only >> >> if those >> >> >> >> models are used >> >> >> >> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied >> >> >> >> - small fixes in htaccess.conf >> >> >> >> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php >> >> >> >> - get rid of superfuous scorm files >> >> >> >> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of >> >> scorm in >> >> >> >> in their own folder (modules/xerte/export) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. >> >> Comitted >> >> >> >> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a >> >> >> >> password in the database... ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> >> >> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might >> >> >> >> conflict. >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> >> >> >> I will, but they are really simple. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> >> >> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones >> >> >> >> might have hungry regexs? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers >> >> >> >> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri May 11 12:42:39 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:42:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problems with media & quota In-Reply-To: <011501cd2f69$9551f3e0$bff5dba0$@co.uk> References: <011501cd2f69$9551f3e0$bff5dba0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <012601cd2f6b$2d6b1110$88413330$@co.uk> have uploaded the export_template.php update Tom and now seems to be working fine. Thanks. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 May 2012 12:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] problems with media & quota This is listed in the Google doc but thought I should mention as a new thread here too. On the test install there are currently two problems with the media & quota tab... 1. Deleting files via media & quota not working - nothing happens when clicking the red x 2. When uploading files via media & quota the allowed files are getting uploaded but not showing in the media & quota tab I'm sure both these issues have existed previously but working correctly in 1.7 installations. HTH Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat May 12 17:31:53 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 17:31:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? In-Reply-To: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> Message-ID: No new code yet, I am still working on the update to the Scenario page. The updates to the other connector pages and the quiz and inventory were added a while back and are already on the test site. I will get the spreadsheet updated with the fixes. Kind regards Johnathan On 12 May 2012 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new > code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is > working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming > week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > BTW The Google doc is up-to-date as far as I can tell but I know Julian > plans to add one or two issues to that. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 14 08:49:53 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 09:49:53 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B04D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B04D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FB0B921.3050407@tor.nl> I merged in and committed the changes (buttonNav, columnPage, jmol and title), youtube and youtuberss were alredy taken care of. The only thing I noticed, is there seems to be an addition to columnPage. A header? That must have caused a cange to the .xwd , but I can't find that. Any idea about the timeframe on when that addition was done? I need to find the template.xwd where that change is in. Current live xot? Tom Op 11-5-2012 11:54, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of > files and ensure the changes get into the beta models. > > Thanks. > > Then the models in the two folder should be **exactly** the same? > > And the definitive set of files are those in pageWizards/models? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 10:52 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > During the development of the new models I kept a folder in xerte > svn/pageWizards called baseline. In this I have a set of the models > from pageTemplates. > > When I updated my svn I compared the pageTemplates models with the > ones in the baseline so that I could detect any changes and implement > them in my models. Then I copied across the updated files from the > pageTemplates folder so that baseline was in sync again. > > Since the beta release I had incorrectly assumed that changes would be > made in the beta models, however this appears not always to have been > the case. > > It will not be easy to compare the models in the pageTemplates with > the new models because there will be many changes showing in the > comparison that are merely the fact that [0] has changed to [projPI]. > > However as far as I know the baseline files are up to date to the last > time I did a comparison, so it should be possible to identify any > changes in the pageTemplate version of the models and to implement > those changes in the new models. > > A quick comparison using winmerge shows the following files have been > modified since my last check. > > buttonNav > > columnPage > > jmol > > title > > youtube > > youtuberss > > I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files > and ensure the changes get into the beta models. > > Since we are heading for a situation in which pageTemplates based > projects will be generated from the same set of models as are used by > desktop Xerte, rather than having a set of models packaged in an xtp > file it would be really useful if we could get to the position in > which the model files in the runtime/pages folder are the definitive > set. I have been leaving this to Tom as he has a better understanding > of how svn's work than I do and I don't know what changes to files (if > any) he may need to make. In the mean time I will continue to update > the set of model and wizard files in the pageWizard section of the svn. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 11 May 2012 09:24, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates > > This might be bad news then, because I have always edited, > templates/pageTemplates/models, because that has always been > considered the number one source until very recently. It was my > understanding that you were keeping your models in synch with these. I > have never made any edits to the models in pageWizards/models, but I > thought any changes to the files in templates/pageTemplates were > reflected in your files. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 23:05 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > I have been updating xerte svn\pageWizards\models > > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates > > I don't know anything about xerte2code\pageTemplates\models is that in > the xerte svn? > > Is there a separate set of model files in > xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models that have been changed > separate to the files in xerte svn\pageWizards\models ? > > I have just updated both my xerte svn and toolkits svn and compared > the model folders using winmerge and the models are identical save > that the xerte svn has indexChanger.rlm and toolkits has > translation.rlm and xerte.rlm > > So this is correct as I understand things should be. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 10 May 2012 14:17, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure > they are. > > This is a question we need to nail down. AFAIK, the one source is the > models folder in xerte svn\pageWizards\models, so these are the files > we should be modifying / fixing and then copying to toolkits. Whether > or not they contain all changes to the files in > xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models I am not sure. > > Jonathan? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 10:10 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > and there's still a bit to do < > > On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files > but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server > overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. > > I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: > > deleting unused media not working > > export not including language folder and files > > I know the language functionality is still under development but just > a note > that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu > doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. > Perhaps > it should always be available? > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they > are. > > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and > there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com ] > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Well you could do it on page title? > > if(startpage){ > > Cover LO while LO loads > move to startpage > uncover LO > > } > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell > > wrote: > > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build > > one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a > > relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest > > would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or > > just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with > > pdf's > > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are > > moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the > > author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the > > deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be > > sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when > > the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather > > than needing to be a permalink etc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Pat > > Lockley > > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > > > > wrote: > >> > >> One objection: > >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, > >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? > >> > >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or > >> exploratory material. > >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to > >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". > >> > >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. > >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 > >> > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example > >> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected > >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something > >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking > >> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and > >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced > >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are > >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of > >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL > >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in > >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many > >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but > >> useful > > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. > >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example > >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many > >> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when > >> providing CPD support etc. > >> > >> > >> > >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that > >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a > >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the > >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when > >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Dave > >> Burnett > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've > >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if > >> the technical issues are addressed. > >> > >> > >> > >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. > >> > >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. > >> > >> > >> > >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific > page. > >> > >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement > >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. > >> > >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling > >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. > >> > >> > >> > >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across > >> other nuggets. > >> > >> :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 > >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and > >> not a pageID > >> > >> > >> > >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never > >> sure what you meant. > >> > >> > >> > >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the > >> learning object author. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT > >> then it would be more acceptable. > >> > >> > >> > >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of > >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always > >> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > >> > >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll > >> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > > linking, i.e. > >> ?pageID=321234524 > >> > >> > >> > >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and > >> parked > > it. > >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the > >> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just > >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage > >> > >> > >> > >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to > >> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing > >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning > >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different > >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only > >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting > >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. > >> > >> > >> > >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, > >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am > >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy > >> it would work OK then it could be added later. > >> > >> > >> > >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right > >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier > >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the > >> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > >> > >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last > time. > >> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be > >> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the > >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as > >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event > >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could > >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum > required. > >> > >> > >> > >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be > >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully > >> available. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript > >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > >> > >> Working fine here too > >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > >> > >> Win 7 64bit > >> > >> IE 8.0 > >> > >> Chrome 18.0 > >> > >> Safari 5.1.5 > >> > >> Opera 10.60 > >> > >> Firefox 12.0 > >> > >> > >> > >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Tom > >> Reijnders > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is > >> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) > >> > >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > >> > >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > >> > >> Hello Everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making > >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than > >> always have them open at the title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of > concept. > >> > >> > >> > >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing > >> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of > >> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that > >> supports the redirection will be lost. > >> > >> > >> > >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web > >> browser - not Xerte. > >> > >> > >> > >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place > >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise > >> javascript calls will not work). > >> > >> > >> > >> It should open at a title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Then add to the url in your browser > >> > >> > >> > >> ?pageID=menu > >> > >> > >> > >> and press enter to reload the page. > >> > >> > >> > >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page > >> to the menu page. > >> > >> > >> > >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > >> > >> > >> > >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to > >> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > >> > >> > >> > >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. 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]]> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 08:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test I merged in and committed the changes (buttonNav, columnPage, jmol and title), youtube and youtuberss were alredy taken care of. The only thing I noticed, is there seems to be an addition to columnPage. A header? That must have caused a cange to the .xwd , but I can't find that. Any idea about the timeframe on when that addition was done? I need to find the template.xwd where that change is in. Current live xot? Tom Op 11-5-2012 11:54, Julian Tenney schreef: > I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files and ensure the changes get into the beta models. Thanks. Then the models in the two folder should be *exactly* the same? And the definitive set of files are those in pageWizards/models? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 11 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test During the development of the new models I kept a folder in xerte svn/pageWizards called baseline. In this I have a set of the models from pageTemplates. When I updated my svn I compared the pageTemplates models with the ones in the baseline so that I could detect any changes and implement them in my models. Then I copied across the updated files from the pageTemplates folder so that baseline was in sync again. Since the beta release I had incorrectly assumed that changes would be made in the beta models, however this appears not always to have been the case. It will not be easy to compare the models in the pageTemplates with the new models because there will be many changes showing in the comparison that are merely the fact that [0] has changed to [projPI]. However as far as I know the baseline files are up to date to the last time I did a comparison, so it should be possible to identify any changes in the pageTemplate version of the models and to implement those changes in the new models. A quick comparison using winmerge shows the following files have been modified since my last check. buttonNav columnPage jmol title youtube youtuberss I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files and ensure the changes get into the beta models. Since we are heading for a situation in which pageTemplates based projects will be generated from the same set of models as are used by desktop Xerte, rather than having a set of models packaged in an xtp file it would be really useful if we could get to the position in which the model files in the runtime/pages folder are the definitive set. I have been leaving this to Tom as he has a better understanding of how svn's work than I do and I don't know what changes to files (if any) he may need to make. In the mean time I will continue to update the set of model and wizard files in the pageWizard section of the svn. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 May 2012 09:24, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates This might be bad news then, because I have always edited, templates/pageTemplates/models, because that has always been considered the number one source until very recently. It was my understanding that you were keeping your models in synch with these. I have never made any edits to the models in pageWizards/models, but I thought any changes to the files in templates/pageTemplates were reflected in your files. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 10 May 2012 23:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test I have been updating xerte svn\pageWizards\models I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates I don't know anything about xerte2code\pageTemplates\models is that in the xerte svn? Is there a separate set of model files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models that have been changed separate to the files in xerte svn\pageWizards\models ? I have just updated both my xerte svn and toolkits svn and compared the model folders using winmerge and the models are identical save that the xerte svn has indexChanger.rlm and toolkits has translation.rlm and xerte.rlm So this is correct as I understand things should be. Kind regards Johnathan On 10 May 2012 14:17, Julian Tenney > wrote: > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. This is a question we need to nail down. AFAIK, the one source is the models folder in xerte svn\pageWizards\models, so these are the files we should be modifying / fixing and then copying to toolkits. Whether or not they contain all changes to the files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models I am not sure. Jonathan? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 10:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > and there's still a bit to do < On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: deleting unused media not working export not including language folder and files I know the language functionality is still under development but just a note that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. Perhaps it should always be available? Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Well you could do it on page title? if(startpage){ Cover LO while LO loads move to startpage uncover LO } On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build > one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a > relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest > would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or > just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with > pdf's > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are > moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the > author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the > deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be > sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when > the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather > than needing to be a permalink etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > > wrote: >> >> One objection: >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? >> >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or >> exploratory material. >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". >> >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example >> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking >> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but >> useful > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many >> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when >> providing CPD support etc. >> >> >> >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> >> >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if >> the technical issues are addressed. >> >> >> >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. >> >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. >> >> >> >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. >> >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. >> >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. >> >> >> >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across >> other nuggets. >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and >> not a pageID >> >> >> >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) >> >> >> >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never >> sure what you meant. >> >> >> >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the >> learning object author. >> >> >> >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT >> then it would be more acceptable. >> >> >> >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always >> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll >> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > linking, i.e. >> ?pageID=321234524 >> >> >> >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and >> parked > it. >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the >> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage >> >> >> >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to >> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. >> >> >> >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. >> >> >> >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy >> it would work OK then it could be added later. >> >> >> >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the >> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. >> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be >> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. >> >> >> >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully >> available. >> >> >> >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> >> Working fine here too >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu >> >> Win 7 64bit >> >> IE 8.0 >> >> Chrome 18.0 >> >> Safari 5.1.5 >> >> Opera 10.60 >> >> Firefox 12.0 >> >> >> >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is >> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) >> >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 >> >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than >> always have them open at the title page. >> >> >> >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. >> >> >> >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing >> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of >> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that >> supports the redirection will be lost. >> >> >> >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web >> browser - not Xerte. >> >> >> >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise >> javascript calls will not work). >> >> >> >> It should open at a title page. >> >> >> >> Then add to the url in your browser >> >> >> >> ?pageID=menu >> >> >> >> and press enter to reload the page. >> >> >> >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page >> to the menu page. >> >> >> >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. >> >> >> >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to >> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, >> >> >> >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. 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On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Mon May 14 09:52:35 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 09:52:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F349F80-3869-4DA0-A113-CF0B2A848061@palepurple.co.uk> On 14 May 2012, at 09:49, Julian Tenney wrote: > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I?d quite like them to go in this release if that?s manageable. On the other hand I?d like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we?ve had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I?d prefer not to have two releases very close together, I?d prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. > XOT - For my authentication-stuff-in-setup - I probably need 1-2 days of time to finish it off - and I'm not sure if I can find that amount of time free this week. David. > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > Hi all > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). > > David > Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 14 09:54:39 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:54:39 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B3FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B04D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0B921.3050407@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B3FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FB0C84F.8060506@tor.nl> Merged in, committed and regenerated pageWizard/template.xwd Op 14-5-2012 10:43, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Thanks. The header is an optional property for the column page: > > remove="true" thumb="thumbs/columnPage.jpg" hint="Presents a page with > a series of columns of text and optional images."> > > > > optional="true"/> > > optional="true"/> > > > >
> > > > pane" align="Top"/>]]> > > > > > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 08:50 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > I merged in and committed the changes (buttonNav, columnPage, jmol and > title), youtube and youtuberss were alredy taken care of. > > The only thing I noticed, is there seems to be an addition to > columnPage. A header? That must have caused a cange to the .xwd , but > I can't find that. Any idea about the timeframe on when that addition > was done? I need to find the template.xwd where that change is in. > Current live xot? > > Tom > > Op 11-5-2012 11:54, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of > files and ensure the changes get into the beta models. > > Thanks. > > Then the models in the two folder should be **exactly** the same? > > And the definitive set of files are those in pageWizards/models? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 11 May 2012 10:52 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > During the development of the new models I kept a folder in xerte > svn/pageWizards called baseline. In this I have a set of the models > from pageTemplates. > > When I updated my svn I compared the pageTemplates models with the > ones in the baseline so that I could detect any changes and implement > them in my models. Then I copied across the updated files from the > pageTemplates folder so that baseline was in sync again. > > Since the beta release I had incorrectly assumed that changes would be > made in the beta models, however this appears not always to have been > the case. > > It will not be easy to compare the models in the pageTemplates with > the new models because there will be many changes showing in the > comparison that are merely the fact that [0] has changed to [projPI]. > > However as far as I know the baseline files are up to date to the last > time I did a comparison, so it should be possible to identify any > changes in the pageTemplate version of the models and to implement > those changes in the new models. > > A quick comparison using winmerge shows the following files have been > modified since my last check. > > buttonNav > > columnPage > > jmol > > title > > youtube > > youtuberss > > I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files > and ensure the changes get into the beta models. > > Since we are heading for a situation in which pageTemplates based > projects will be generated from the same set of models as are used by > desktop Xerte, rather than having a set of models packaged in an xtp > file it would be really useful if we could get to the position in > which the model files in the runtime/pages folder are the definitive > set. I have been leaving this to Tom as he has a better understanding > of how svn's work than I do and I don't know what changes to files (if > any) he may need to make. In the mean time I will continue to update > the set of model and wizard files in the pageWizard section of the svn. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 11 May 2012 09:24, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates > > This might be bad news then, because I have always edited, > templates/pageTemplates/models, because that has always been > considered the number one source until very recently. It was my > understanding that you were keeping your models in synch with these. I > have never made any edits to the models in pageWizards/models, but I > thought any changes to the files in templates/pageTemplates were > reflected in your files. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 10 May 2012 23:05 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > I have been updating xerte svn\pageWizards\models > > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates > > I don't know anything about xerte2code\pageTemplates\models is that in > the xerte svn? > > Is there a separate set of model files in > xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models that have been changed > separate to the files in xerte svn\pageWizards\models ? > > I have just updated both my xerte svn and toolkits svn and compared > the model folders using winmerge and the models are identical save > that the xerte svn has indexChanger.rlm and toolkits has > translation.rlm and xerte.rlm > > So this is correct as I understand things should be. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 10 May 2012 14:17, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure > they are. > > This is a question we need to nail down. AFAIK, the one source is the > models folder in xerte svn\pageWizards\models, so these are the files > we should be modifying / fixing and then copying to toolkits. Whether > or not they contain all changes to the files in > xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models I am not sure. > > Jonathan? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 10 May 2012 10:10 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > and there's still a bit to do < > > On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files > but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server > overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. > > I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: > > deleting unused media not working > > export not including language folder and files > > I know the language functionality is still under development but just > a note > that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu > doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. > Perhaps > it should always be available? > > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they > are. > > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and > there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com ] > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > Well you could do it on page title? > > if(startpage){ > > Cover LO while LO loads > move to startpage > uncover LO > > } > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell > > wrote: > > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build > > one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a > > relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest > > would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or > > just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with > > pdf's > > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are > > moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the > > author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the > > deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be > > sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when > > the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather > > than needing to be a permalink etc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Pat > > Lockley > > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > > > > wrote: > >> > >> One objection: > >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, > >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? > >> > >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or > >> exploratory material. > >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to > >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". > >> > >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. > >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 > >> > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example > >> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected > >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something > >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking > >> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and > >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced > >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are > >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of > >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL > >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in > >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many > >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but > >> useful > > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. > >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example > >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many > >> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when > >> providing CPD support etc. > >> > >> > >> > >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that > >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a > >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the > >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when > >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Dave > >> Burnett > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've > >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if > >> the technical issues are addressed. > >> > >> > >> > >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. > >> > >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. > >> > >> > >> > >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific > page. > >> > >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement > >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. > >> > >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling > >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. > >> > >> > >> > >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across > >> other nuggets. > >> > >> :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 > >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and > >> not a pageID > >> > >> > >> > >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never > >> sure what you meant. > >> > >> > >> > >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the > >> learning object author. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT > >> then it would be more acceptable. > >> > >> > >> > >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of > >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always > >> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > >> > >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll > >> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > > linking, i.e. > >> ?pageID=321234524 > >> > >> > >> > >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and > >> parked > > it. > >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the > >> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just > >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage > >> > >> > >> > >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to > >> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. > >> > >> > >> > >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing > >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning > >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different > >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only > >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting > >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. > >> > >> > >> > >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, > >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am > >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy > >> it would work OK then it could be added later. > >> > >> > >> > >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right > >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier > >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the > >> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > >> > >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last > time. > >> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be > >> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the > >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as > >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event > >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could > >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum > required. > >> > >> > >> > >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be > >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully > >> available. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript > >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > >> > >> Working fine here too > >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu > >> > >> Win 7 64bit > >> > >> IE 8.0 > >> > >> Chrome 18.0 > >> > >> Safari 5.1.5 > >> > >> Opera 10.60 > >> > >> Firefox 12.0 > >> > >> > >> > >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Tom > >> Reijnders > >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > >> > >> > >> > >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is > >> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) > >> > >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 > >> > >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > >> > >> Hello Everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making > >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than > >> always have them open at the title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of > concept. > >> > >> > >> > >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing > >> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of > >> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that > >> supports the redirection will be lost. > >> > >> > >> > >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web > >> browser - not Xerte. > >> > >> > >> > >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place > >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise > >> javascript calls will not work). > >> > >> > >> > >> It should open at a title page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Then add to the url in your browser > >> > >> > >> > >> ?pageID=menu > >> > >> > >> > >> and press enter to reload the page. > >> > >> > >> > >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page > >> to the menu page. > >> > >> > >> > >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. > >> > >> > >> > >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to > >> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, > >> > >> > >> > >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a > >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the > >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 14 09:55:25 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 09:55:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test In-Reply-To: <4FB0C84F.8060506@tor.nl> References: <00aa01cd2e14$374a1d00$a5de5700$@co.uk> <00be01cd2e19$4b63bc60$e22b3520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF3D80329@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003901cd2e8c$a45efc80$ed1cf580$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AD47@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456AF81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B04D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0B921.3050407@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B3FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C84F.8060506@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B423@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Thanks Tom. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Merged in, committed and regenerated pageWizard/template.xwd Op 14-5-2012 10:43, Julian Tenney schreef: Thanks. The header is an optional property for the column page:
]]> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 08:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test I merged in and committed the changes (buttonNav, columnPage, jmol and title), youtube and youtuberss were alredy taken care of. The only thing I noticed, is there seems to be an addition to columnPage. A header? That must have caused a cange to the .xwd , but I can't find that. Any idea about the timeframe on when that addition was done? I need to find the template.xwd where that change is in. Current live xot? Tom Op 11-5-2012 11:54, Julian Tenney schreef: > I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files and ensure the changes get into the beta models. Thanks. Then the models in the two folder should be *exactly* the same? And the definitive set of files are those in pageWizards/models? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 11 May 2012 10:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test During the development of the new models I kept a folder in xerte svn/pageWizards called baseline. In this I have a set of the models from pageTemplates. When I updated my svn I compared the pageTemplates models with the ones in the baseline so that I could detect any changes and implement them in my models. Then I copied across the updated files from the pageTemplates folder so that baseline was in sync again. Since the beta release I had incorrectly assumed that changes would be made in the beta models, however this appears not always to have been the case. It will not be easy to compare the models in the pageTemplates with the new models because there will be many changes showing in the comparison that are merely the fact that [0] has changed to [projPI]. However as far as I know the baseline files are up to date to the last time I did a comparison, so it should be possible to identify any changes in the pageTemplate version of the models and to implement those changes in the new models. A quick comparison using winmerge shows the following files have been modified since my last check. buttonNav columnPage jmol title youtube youtuberss I can compare the beta set of files with the pageTemplate set of files and ensure the changes get into the beta models. Since we are heading for a situation in which pageTemplates based projects will be generated from the same set of models as are used by desktop Xerte, rather than having a set of models packaged in an xtp file it would be really useful if we could get to the position in which the model files in the runtime/pages folder are the definitive set. I have been leaving this to Tom as he has a better understanding of how svn's work than I do and I don't know what changes to files (if any) he may need to make. In the mean time I will continue to update the set of model and wizard files in the pageWizard section of the svn. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 May 2012 09:24, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates This might be bad news then, because I have always edited, templates/pageTemplates/models, because that has always been considered the number one source until very recently. It was my understanding that you were keeping your models in synch with these. I have never made any edits to the models in pageWizards/models, but I thought any changes to the files in templates/pageTemplates were reflected in your files. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 10 May 2012 23:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test I have been updating xerte svn\pageWizards\models I have not been doing anything with xerte svn\templates\pageTemplates I don't know anything about xerte2code\pageTemplates\models is that in the xerte svn? Is there a separate set of model files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models that have been changed separate to the files in xerte svn\pageWizards\models ? I have just updated both my xerte svn and toolkits svn and compared the model folders using winmerge and the models are identical save that the xerte svn has indexChanger.rlm and toolkits has translation.rlm and xerte.rlm So this is correct as I understand things should be. Kind regards Johnathan On 10 May 2012 14:17, Julian Tenney > wrote: > Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. This is a question we need to nail down. AFAIK, the one source is the models folder in xerte svn\pageWizards\models, so these are the files we should be modifying / fixing and then copying to toolkits. Whether or not they contain all changes to the files in xerte2code\templates\pageTemplates\models I am not sure. Jonathan? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 May 2012 10:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > and there's still a bit to do < On that note I checked the XOT svn last night and there were no new files but just in case I re-uploaded all the latest code to the test server overwriting what was there with the exception of config.php and index.php. I'll update some notes in the Google doc later but a few quick points: deleting unused media not working export not including language folder and files I know the language functionality is still under development but just a note that using either guest or moodle integration the language selection menu doesn't show e.g. only shows on login page not when auto logged in. Perhaps it should always be available? Are all the latest rlm's from Xerte also in the XOT svn? Not sure they are. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 May 2012 09:16 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Let's leave it for now. Priority now is getting the release done, and there's still a bit to do, ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 09 May 2012 20:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test Well you could do it on page title? if(startpage){ Cover LO while LO loads move to startpage uncover LO } On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > firstly yes I always encourage people to think granular and not build > one big LO but sometimes original plans change and even with a > relatively small LO linking to a specific page can be very useful. > > It obviously hasn't ever been available in XOT but for me the simplest > would be if authors could simply append something like &page=5 or > just #page=5 to link to page 5. e.g. similar to what you can do with > pdf's > http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=5 > > Before anyone says "that's not reliable what happens when pages are > moved around" it's no different to other self-authored resources - the > author would know the implications of that and re-send or update the > deep link if pages are re-ordered and in most cases would only be > sending deep links to established resources unlikely to change or when > the deep link is an individualised point inWel time reference rather > than needing to be a permalink etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 09 May 2012 20:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test > > i can't recall where the deep link is shown? how does a teacher find it? > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Dave Burnett > > wrote: >> >> One objection: >> Your deep linking examples "moodle resources, pages with websites, >> specific blog posts etc" are support materials correct? >> >> So in the flow of a coherent LO, you can pop up some backup or >> exploratory material. >> They generally aren't "Abandon the current learning object, jump to >> this blog post and continue the lesson from there". >> >> I see the use of being able to send a link via email. >> As you say, it's all in context. The needs hierarchy. :-) >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:47:38 +0100 >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> I demonstrated the online copy of the test file today as an example >> of possible features of the upcoming 1.8 release and as expected >> delegates thought it very useful. In my experience it's something >> people have wanted for a long time e.g. they often use deep linking >> to moodle resources, pages with websites, specific blog posts etc and >> particularly in an FE and ACL context and have often voiced >> frustration at not being able to do so with Xerte LO's. There are >> limitations in having to say "follow this link to the first page of >> this LO and then navigate to page x" especially in areas such a SFL >> etc. The ability to send a direct link via email or to add a link in >> another resource to a page within an LO would be very useful in many >> cases - if it's possible and reliable. It's not a game changer but >> useful > on the occasions where it might be used for a particular reason e.g. >> differentiation and for instance if you take the 560 example >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 there are many >> occasions where it would be useful to link to a specific page when >> providing CPD support etc. >> >> >> >> So if it's unreliable or likely to delay the release then in that >> context it's not so important but if it can be made to work in a >> satisfactory way then I can see it being a very useful including the >> ability to link to new page types within an updated 560 example when >> highlighting what's new in 1.8. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 09 May 2012 13:08 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> >> >> Always value in pure research, but just to be a negative Nellie, I've >> real doubts about a feature like this actually being used, even if >> the technical issues are addressed. >> >> >> >> Authorware had "jumpfile", which seamlessly segued between files. >> >> It was used if you had a router style architecture. >> >> >> >> Don't remember anyone asking for the ability to jump to a specific page. >> >> That sounds like a glossary or definition type structure requirement >> and there's easier ways to accomplish those. >> >> And without the ability to return to the same place in the calling >> module (Call and Return), I don't see huge numbers of folks using it. >> >> >> >> But like I said, futzing around is a great way to stumble across >> other nuggets. >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:32 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and >> not a pageID >> >> >> >> phew you had me worried there for a minute :-) >> >> >> >> I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never >> sure what you meant. >> >> >> >> The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the >> learning object author. >> >> >> >> It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT >> then it would be more acceptable. >> >> >> >> I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of >> knowing when the page array has been fully populated it will always >> be guess work as to how short the delay can be. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> >> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml - you'll >> have seen it I'm sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep > linking, i.e. >> ?pageID=321234524 >> >> >> >> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn't and >> parked > it. >> It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the >> delay, which I don't think is acceptable to the end user. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:54 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just >> as easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage >> >> >> >> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to >> be "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem. >> >> >> >> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing >> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning >> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different >> learning object, which you can do already using a URL. The only >> difference here was that someone on one of the postings was lamenting >> the inability to open a new learning object at a specific page. >> >> >> >> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, >> did not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am >> quite happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy >> it would work OK then it could be added later. >> >> >> >> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right >> now I am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier >> to implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the >> Bag of Grain on one side of the river. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> >> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time. >> It's disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be >> moved on. Let's leave this for another time. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 May 2012 10:17 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the >> time to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as >> to how long I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event >> didn't fire until the array had completed being built, then I could >> remove the timer and the delay would be reduced to the minimum required. >> >> >> >> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be >> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully >> available. >> >> >> >> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript >> sorted out and then post something for you to try out. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> >> Working fine here too >> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu >> >> Win 7 64bit >> >> IE 8.0 >> >> Chrome 18.0 >> >> Safari 5.1.5 >> >> Opera 10.60 >> >> Firefox 12.0 >> >> >> >> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 05 May 2012 08:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test >> >> >> >> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is >> shown and after 1 second the menu page is opened) >> >> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18 >> >> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making >> it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than >> always have them open at the title page. >> >> >> >> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept. >> >> >> >> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing >> it!) If you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of >> rloObject.js will overwrite the one in the project and the code that >> supports the redirection will be lost. >> >> >> >> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web >> browser - not Xerte. >> >> >> >> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place >> it as a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise >> javascript calls will not work). >> >> >> >> It should open at a title page. >> >> >> >> Then add to the url in your browser >> >> >> >> ?pageID=menu >> >> >> >> and press enter to reload the page. >> >> >> >> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page >> to the menu page. >> >> >> >> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera. >> >> >> >> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to >> know if the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari, >> >> >> >> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a >> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the >> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because >> rootIcon.pages.length has not finished being built when the onInit >> event fires I have added a timer to create a delay to allow time for >> the array to be built - hence the delay before redirection takes place. >> >> >> >> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same >> approach should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array >> to source the page information) >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. 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In-Reply-To: <4F349F80-3869-4DA0-A113-CF0B2A848061@palepurple.co.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F349F80-3869-4DA0-A113-CF0B2A848061@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B429@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Could it be done by about May 25th? Then we can really get stuck in and get all this finished by end of May. That would be great. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 14 May 2012 09:53 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 14 May 2012, at 09:49, Julian Tenney wrote: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. XOT - For my authentication-stuff-in-setup - I probably need 1-2 days of time to finish it off - and I'm not sure if I can find that amount of time free this week. David. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 14 09:58:58 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:58:58 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That > would be a good first step. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the > authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it > probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database > authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field > name(s) etc?). > > David > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 14 10:06:42 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:06:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Mon May 14 10:15:20 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:15:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B429@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F349F80-3869-4DA0-A113-CF0B2A848061@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B429@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <08EF569E-322B-4C02-8BB4-2D21FDE7CAED@palepurple.co.uk> On 14 May 2012, at 09:56, Julian Tenney wrote: > Could it be done by about May 25th? Then we can really get stuck in and get all this finished by end of May. That would be great. I'll agree to a date if you agree to pay me :-) David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 14 10:22:46 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:22:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? In-Reply-To: <08EF569E-322B-4C02-8BB4-2D21FDE7CAED@palepurple.co.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F349F80-3869-4DA0-A113-CF0B2A848061@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B429@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <08EF569E-322B-4C02-8BB4-2D21FDE7CAED@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B474@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> There's the rub ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 14 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 14 May 2012, at 09:56, Julian Tenney wrote: Could it be done by about May 25th? Then we can really get stuck in and get all this finished by end of May. That would be great. I'll agree to a date if you agree to pay me :-) David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 14 10:30:27 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:30:27 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That > would be a good first step. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the > authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it > probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database > authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field > name(s) etc?). > > David > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 14 10:31:13 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:31:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 14 10:49:26 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:49:26 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file > with no wizard support? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add > authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in > the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring > language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That > would be a good first step. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the > authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it > probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database > authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field > name(s) etc?). > > David > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 14 11:03:16 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:03:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 14 11:11:33 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:11:33 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:49 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to > change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening > an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at > all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file > with no wizard support? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add > authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in > the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring > language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That > would be a good first step. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the > authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it > probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database > authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field > name(s) etc?). > > David > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 14 11:12:48 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:12:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4F7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Shall we try icons / toggle buttons for the other checkboxes? They probably need a tooltip, but by then, everything will have loaded, so maybe no need for a call back..? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 11:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 14 11:18:24 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:18:24 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4F7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4F7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FB0DBF0.8090304@tor.nl> I assume you refer to issue 1 of one of the earlier messages again. Whatever is working and you feel comfortable with. Op 14-5-2012 12:12, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Shall we try icons / toggle buttons for the other checkboxes? They > probably need a tooltip, but by then, everything will have loaded, so > maybe no need for a call back..? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 11:12 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:49 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to > change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening > an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at > all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file > with no wizard support? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add > authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in > the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring > language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That > would be a good first step. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the > authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it > probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database > authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field > name(s) etc?). > > David > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 15 11:59:04 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 12:59:04 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" >> >> Defaults to English I guess. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom >> Reijnders >> *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:49 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any >> updated code to add to the test server?) >> >> Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to >> change the authoring language. >> >> So... >> >> 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. >> 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when >> opening an LO? >> >> One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at >> all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) >> >> Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file >> with no wizard support? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom >> Reijnders >> *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any >> updated code to add to the test server?) >> >> For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add >> authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it >> in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your >> authoring language at the moment. >> >> For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. >> >> Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... >> >> For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO >> properties, but there is already a 'language' property that >> configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with >> that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes >> French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though >> the authoring language was English. >> >> Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? >> >> I can't think of any other way, can you? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom >> Reijnders >> *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any >> updated code to add to the test server?) >> >> I created a separate topic for the Windows version... >> >> I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. >> >> two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) >> - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc >> in the wizard. Don't know why) >> - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you >> open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. >> >> Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need >> to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and >> than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. >> >> Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the >> codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's >> manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: >> we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because >> some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new >> build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to >> release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to >> have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this >> finished and on the web site soon. >> >> Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That >> would be a good first step. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of >> *David Goodwin >> *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? >> >> On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any >> new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if >> anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested >> during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. >> >> I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the >> authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it >> probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database >> authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field >> name(s) etc?). >> >> David >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >> >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 15 12:00:19 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 12:00:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 17 12:23:33 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:23:33 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yes, OK. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 15 May 2012 11:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language > at 'runtime'? At least for now? > > Tom > > Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:49 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to > change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening > an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at > all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file > with no wizard support? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add > authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in > the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring > language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That > would be a good first step. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the > authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it > probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database > authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field > name(s) etc?). > > David > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 17 12:27:26 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:27:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. How will it work for toolkits? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Thu May 17 12:29:49 2012 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (Thomas Rochford) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:29:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] LDAP authentication problems at EFC Resolved Message-ID: <008201cd3420$5f558390$1e008ab0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Hi Everyone, I thought I'ld drop a line to this list to report my success at Epping forest College yesterday in getting LDAP authentication to work properly. As Ron and Pat are aware this has been ongoing for some time but yesterday I got 1.7 to handle AD authentication, after addressing two issues. The first was a possible misunderstanding on my part about the LDAP filter entry. I'm still not clear where this is actually set! The Management page shows LDAP Main filter: sAMAccountName= LDAP Second filter: cn= The LDAP Table in the database shows ldap_id 1 ldap_knownname ldap_host 172.16.8.47 ldap_port ldap_username XXXXXXX ldap_password XXXXXXX ldap_basedn OU= EFC_Users, DC=efc, DC=lan ldap_filter sAMAccountName, objectclass, cn ldap_filter_attr sAMAccountName The SITEDETAILS Table shows ldap_host 172.16.8.47 ldap_port bind_pwd XXXXXXX basedn OU= EFC_Users, DC=efc, DC=lan bind_dn XXXXXXX (just a user name; not fully qualified - that didn't work at all) LDAP_preference sAMAccountName= LDAP_filter cn= So it looks as though the ldap_filter_attr field and the ldap_filter fields may be mapping to the wrong variables in the source code, depending on where it's reading it's data from. I know I had to change them in the database as well as the Management page. The second issue was actually in the code in login_library.php. Sorting out the above issue enabled the software to locate the user in AD, however it was then unable to verify the password. The supplied code read as follows at the entry point to the authenticate_to_host() function where I had to replace this line: $ldap_search_attr = array('firstname' => 'givenname', 'lastname' => 'sn'); With $ldap_search_attr = array("sAMAccountName","objectclass","cn"); That then worked straightaway. Maybe, I didn't even need to change the database entries? I know the same line is used elsewhere in the code, but this was the one I had to change at EFC. I'm not quite sure what the current state of play is within the SVN as the login_library.php appears to be devoid of any code as at revision 350? Or am I missing something here? Kindest regards, Thomas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 17 12:34:39 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:34:39 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's > required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, > right? > Right. > > So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? > Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > Yes, in the case of XOT > Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with > this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in > the install. > That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. > How will it work for toolkits? > I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:24 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Julian, > > I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. > Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the > first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct > object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? > > So what is the correct object? > > Tom > > Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yes, OK. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 15 May 2012 11:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language > at 'runtime'? At least for now? > > Tom > > Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:49 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to > change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening > an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at > all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file > with no wizard support? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add > authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in > the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring > language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That > would be a good first step. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the > authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it > probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database > authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field > name(s) etc?). > > David > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu May 17 12:35:02 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:35:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LDAP authentication problems at EFC Resolved In-Reply-To: <008201cd3420$5f558390$1e008ab0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> References: <008201cd3420$5f558390$1e008ab0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Message-ID: I never really understood the names of the variables, and was never sure what they did. I think login_library has been superseded now On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Thomas Rochford wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > > > I thought I?ld drop a line to this list to report my success at Epping > forest College yesterday in getting LDAP authentication to work properly. As > Ron and Pat are aware this has been ongoing for some time but yesterday I > got 1.7 to handle AD authentication, after addressing two issues. > > > > The first was a possible misunderstanding on my part about the LDAP filter > entry. I?m still not clear where this is actually set! The Management page > shows > > > > LDAP Main filter: sAMAccountName= > > LDAP Second filter: cn= > > > > The LDAP Table in the database shows > > ldap_id? 1 > > ldap_knownname > > ldap_host? 172.16.8.47 > > ldap_port > > ldap_username? XXXXXXX > > ldap_password? XXXXXXX > > ldap_basedn? OU= EFC_Users, DC=efc, DC=lan > > ldap_filter? sAMAccountName, objectclass, cn > > ldap_filter_attr? sAMAccountName > > > > The SITEDETAILS Table shows > > ldap_host? 172.16.8.47 > > ldap_port > > bind_pwd? XXXXXXX > > basedn? OU= EFC_Users, DC=efc, DC=lan > > bind_dn? XXXXXXX (just a user name; not fully qualified ? that didn?t work > at all) > > LDAP_preference? sAMAccountName= > > LDAP_filter? cn= > > > > So it looks as though the ldap_filter_attr field and the ldap_filter fields > may be mapping to the wrong variables in the source code, depending on where > it?s reading it?s data from. I know I had to change them in the database as > well as the Management page. > > > > The second issue was actually in the code in login_library.php. Sorting out > the above issue enabled the software to locate the user in AD, however it > was then unable to verify the password. The supplied code read as follows at > the entry point to the authenticate_to_host() function where I had to > replace this line: > > > > $ldap_search_attr = array('firstname' => 'givenname', 'lastname' => 'sn'); > > > > With > > > > $ldap_search_attr = array("sAMAccountName","objectclass","cn"); > > > > That then worked straightaway. Maybe, I didn?t even need to change the > database entries? > > > > I know the same line is used elsewhere in the code, but this was the one I > had to change at EFC. > > > > I?m not quite sure what the current state of play is within the SVN as the > login_library.php appears to be devoid of any code as at revision 350? Or am > I missing something here? > > > > Kindest regards, Thomas > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu May 17 12:36:32 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:36:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LDAP authentication problems at EFC Resolved In-Reply-To: References: <008201cd3420$5f558390$1e008ab0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 17 May 2012, at 12:35, Pat Lockley wrote: > I never really understood the names of the variables, and was never > sure what they did. > > I think login_library has been superseded now Yes. See library/Xerte/Authentication/* Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 17 13:04:52 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:04:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the > xml file. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > > > Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's > required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, > right? > > Right. > > So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? > > Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a > specific .xml > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > > Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with > this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in > the install. > > That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be > able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that > now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created > project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece > was originally written in. > > > How will it work for toolkits? > > I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface > and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:24 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Julian, > > I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. > Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the > first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct > object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? > > So what is the correct object? > > Tom > > Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yes, OK. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 15 May 2012 11:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language > at 'runtime'? At least for now? > > Tom > > Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:49 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to > change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening > an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at > all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file > with no wizard support? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add > authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in > the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring > language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That > would be a good first step. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the > authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it > probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database > authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field > name(s) etc?). > > David > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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In-Reply-To: <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Thu May 17 15:27:43 2012 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (Thomas Rochford) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:27:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LDAP authentication problems at EFC Resolved In-Reply-To: References: <008201cd3420$5f558390$1e008ab0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Message-ID: <010c01cd3439$3950f6c0$abf2e440$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Hi Dave, Thank you for this. I've had a look and the 'offending' line is there at line 113. I don't think it's a good idea to hard code this. I suggest the search filter/attributes should be read from the database, so as to allow for user configuration. 'array("sAMAccountName","objectclass","cn")' should probably be the default/recommendation for AD, whereas the supplied mapping may be better for LDAP. Kindest Regards, Thomas ========================================================== Thomas Rochford, e-Learning Advisor, JISC Regional Support Centre - Eastern Tel: 07500 669002, 01223 564749 Eml: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk, Skype: cambridge.serendipity RSCs - Stimulating and Supporting Innovation in Learning RSC Eastern welcomes feedback on our services via support at rsc-eastern.ac.uk ?Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 17 May 2012 12:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LDAP authentication problems at EFC Resolved On 17 May 2012, at 12:35, Pat Lockley wrote: > I never really understood the names of the variables, and was never > sure what they did. > > I think login_library has been superseded now Yes. See library/Xerte/Authentication/* Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu May 17 15:35:57 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:35:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LDAP authentication problems at EFC Resolved In-Reply-To: <010c01cd3439$3950f6c0$abf2e440$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> References: <008201cd3420$5f558390$1e008ab0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <010c01cd3439$3950f6c0$abf2e440$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 17 May 2012, at 15:27, Thomas Rochford wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Thank you for this. > > I've had a look and the 'offending' line is there at line 113. I don't think > it's a good idea to hard code this. I suggest the search filter/attributes > should be read from the database, so as to allow for user configuration. > 'array("sAMAccountName","objectclass","cn")' should probably be the > default/recommendation for AD, whereas the supplied mapping may be better > for LDAP. Yes; I agree - hence my hope is to make the authentication parameters part of the setup wizard - and so on?. Not there yet though David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 17 15:41:31 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:41:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LDAP authentication problems at EFC Resolved In-Reply-To: References: <008201cd3420$5f558390$1e008ab0$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> <010c01cd3439$3950f6c0$abf2e440$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FF65@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> >Not there yet though I've not got any money to pay you, but I have sent two potential hosting customers your way this week... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 17 May 2012 15:36 To: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk; For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LDAP authentication problems at EFC Resolved On 17 May 2012, at 15:27, Thomas Rochford wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Thank you for this. > > I've had a look and the 'offending' line is there at line 113. I don't think > it's a good idea to hard code this. I suggest the search filter/attributes > should be read from the database, so as to allow for user configuration. > 'array("sAMAccountName","objectclass","cn")' should probably be the > default/recommendation for AD, whereas the supplied mapping may be better > for LDAP. Yes; I agree - hence my hope is to make the authentication parameters part of the setup wizard - and so on.... Not there yet though David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 18 15:53:25 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 15:53:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTTPService in Flex Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF569047B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Good people, In mobile xerte there are places we requests XML. It all works fine on my computer, and it all runs fine at home on my network, but on the University's network, it doesn't always work. In both scenarios, I'm using the Flex HTTPService component: I request the xml for a toolkits folder feed (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/RSS/Julian_Tenney/mobileContent): this fails; I request the xml for a toolkits object, (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/xml_560) this succeeds; Again, both calls work fine from the PC, and from home. Only on UoNSecure does the folder RSS request fail. Any bright ideas? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 18 16:03:20 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:03:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTTPService in Flex In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF569047B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF569047B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Where server code is returned? 404? On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Good people, > > > > In mobile xerte there are places we requests XML. It all works fine on my > computer, and it all runs fine at home on my network, but on the > University?s network, it doesn?t always work. > > > > In both scenarios, I?m using the Flex HTTPService component: > > I request the xml for a toolkits folder feed > (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/RSS/Julian_Tenney/mobileContent): this > fails; > > I request the xml for a toolkits object, > (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/xml_560) ?this succeeds; > > > > Again, both calls work fine from the PC, and from home. Only on UoNSecure > does the folder RSS request fail. > > > > Any bright ideas? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 18 16:05:54 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:05:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTTPService in Flex In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF569047B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5690499@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> So far I've not been able to get the fault event to fire on the tablet / phone, so haven't managed to sniff out an error code / string. I've added code to pop that up at runtime, but I think my tablet is caching the old version of the app when I try and download it I'm just reinstalling the same version I downloaded before I put the code in, and I haven't got my cable here to manually uninstall it and force it to update. When I get that far I'll have a bit more idea ;-) It's just odd that the LO xml returns OK all the time, but on UoNSecure the RSS request fails. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 18 May 2012 16:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTTPService in Flex Where server code is returned? 404? On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Good people, > > > > In mobile xerte there are places we requests XML. It all works fine on my > computer, and it all runs fine at home on my network, but on the > University's network, it doesn't always work. > > > > In both scenarios, I'm using the Flex HTTPService component: > > I request the xml for a toolkits folder feed > (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/RSS/Julian_Tenney/mobileContent): this > fails; > > I request the xml for a toolkits object, > (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/xml_560) ?this succeeds; > > > > Again, both calls work fine from the PC, and from home. Only on UoNSecure > does the folder RSS request fail. > > > > Any bright ideas? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri May 18 16:08:20 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:08:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTTPService in Flex In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5690499@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF569047B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5690499@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: ok well put a laptop on UoN Secure Run fiddler Hit the page via a browser that rules out UoN secure On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > So far I've not been able to get the fault event to fire on the tablet / phone, so haven't managed to sniff out an error code / string. I've added code to pop that up at runtime, but I think my tablet is caching the old version of the app when I try and download it I'm just reinstalling the same version I downloaded before I put the code in, and I haven't got my cable here to manually uninstall it and force it to update. > > When I get that far I'll have a bit more idea ;-) > > It's just odd that the LO xml returns OK all the time, but on UoNSecure the RSS request fails. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 18 May 2012 16:03 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTTPService in Flex > > Where server code is returned? > > 404? > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Good people, >> >> >> >> In mobile xerte there are places we requests XML. It all works fine on my >> computer, and it all runs fine at home on my network, but on the >> University's network, it doesn't always work. >> >> >> >> In both scenarios, I'm using the Flex HTTPService component: >> >> I request the xml for a toolkits folder feed >> (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/RSS/Julian_Tenney/mobileContent): this >> fails; >> >> I request the xml for a toolkits object, >> (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/xml_560) ?this succeeds; >> >> >> >> Again, both calls work fine from the PC, and from home. Only on UoNSecure >> does the folder RSS request fail. >> >> >> >> Any bright ideas? >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 18 16:12:46 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:12:46 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTTPService in Flex In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF569047B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF569047B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FB666EE.9020702@tor.nl> Lots of reasons why that might not work.... 1. Difference between internal/external DNS resolution 2. Policy of the internal network.... Just to name two I do encounter a lot myself... Op 18-5-2012 16:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Good people, > > In mobile xerte there are places we requests XML. It all works fine on > my computer, and it all runs fine at home on my network, but on the > University's network, it doesn't always work. > > In both scenarios, I'm using the Flex HTTPService component: > > I request the xml for a toolkits folder feed > (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/RSS/Julian_Tenney/mobileContent > ): > this fails; > > I request the xml for a toolkits object, > (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/xml_560) this succeeds; > > Again, both calls work fine from the PC, and from home. Only on > UoNSecure does the folder RSS request fail. > > Any bright ideas? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've added code to pop that up at runtime, but I think my tablet is caching the old version of the app when I try and download it I'm just reinstalling the same version I downloaded before I put the code in, and I haven't got my cable here to manually uninstall it and force it to update. > > > > When I get that far I'll have a bit more idea ;-) > > > > It's just odd that the LO xml returns OK all the time, but on UoNSecure the RSS request fails. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > > Sent: 18 May 2012 16:03 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTTPService in Flex > > > > Where server code is returned? > > > > 404? > > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > >> Good people, > >> > >> > >> > >> In mobile xerte there are places we requests XML. It all works fine on my > >> computer, and it all runs fine at home on my network, but on the > >> University's network, it doesn't always work. > >> > >> > >> > >> In both scenarios, I'm using the Flex HTTPService component: > >> > >> I request the xml for a toolkits folder feed > >> (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/RSS/Julian_Tenney/mobileContent): this > >> fails; > >> > >> I request the xml for a toolkits object, > >> (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/xml_560) this succeeds; > >> > >> > >> > >> Again, both calls work fine from the PC, and from home. Only on UoNSecure > >> does the folder RSS request fail. > >> > >> > >> > >> Any bright ideas? > >> > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the > >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed May 23 12:26:17 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:26:17 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about > that. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 13:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? > > Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the > xml file. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > > > Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's > required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, > right? > > Right. > > > So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? > > Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a > specific .xml > > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > > > Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with > this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in > the install. > > That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be > able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that > now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created > project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece > was originally written in. > > > > How will it work for toolkits? > > I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface > and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's > > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:24 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Julian, > > I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. > Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the > first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct > object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? > > So what is the correct object? > > Tom > > Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yes, OK. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 15 May 2012 11:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language > at 'runtime'? At least for now? > > Tom > > Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:49 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to > change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening > an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at > all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file > with no wizard support? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add > authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in > the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring > language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? 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In-Reply-To: <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B315E0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I've got some time to look at this tomorrow afternoon, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field name(s) etc?). David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B315E0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B315E0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FBCF761.7090404@tor.nl> I'll (probably) am at home, so please holler if you need any information. I'll put up a new xerte-beta.exe on the xerte.or.uk website tonight. Tom Op 23-5-2012 13:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I've got some time to look at this tomorrow afternoon, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 23 May 2012 12:26 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. > Remaining issues: > > 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose > preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder > that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit > better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I > can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first > loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , > because now I can pickup the language attribute from the > learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than > the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like > I said, I can't test it. > > 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. > > 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the > wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. > > Tom > > Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about > that. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 13:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? > > Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the > xml file. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > > > Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's > required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, > right? > > Right. > > > > So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? > > Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a > specific .xml > > > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > > > > Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with > this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in > the install. > > That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be > able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that > now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created > project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece > was originally written in. > > > > > How will it work for toolkits? > > I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface > and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's > > > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:24 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Julian, > > I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. > Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the > first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct > object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? > > So what is the correct object? > > Tom > > Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yes, OK. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 15 May 2012 11:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language > at 'runtime'? At least for now? > > Tom > > Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:49 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to > change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening > an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at > all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file > with no wizard support? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add > authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in > the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring > language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That > would be a good first step. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the > authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it > probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database > authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field > name(s) etc?). > > David > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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If you're about we can talk tomorrow if need be, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 15:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I'll (probably) am at home, so please holler if you need any information. I'll put up a new xerte-beta.exe on the xerte.or.uk website tonight. Tom Op 23-5-2012 13:31, Julian Tenney schreef: I've got some time to look at this tomorrow afternoon, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 24 13:42:29 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 13:42:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31AFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Tom, How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I can't see how you're doing it. Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. The preview.fla is different because it holds some functions to be used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and should be) the same as MainPeloader. Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu May 24 14:32:37 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:32:37 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31AFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31AFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FBE3875.8070907@tor.nl> There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... Tom Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Tom, > > How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? > That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I > can't see how you're doing it. > > Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. > > The preview.fla is different because it holds some functions to be > used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and > should be) the same as MainPeloader. > > Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not > at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 23 May 2012 12:26 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. > Remaining issues: > > 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose > preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder > that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit > better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I > can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first > loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , > because now I can pickup the language attribute from the > learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than > the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like > I said, I can't test it. > > 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. > > 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the > wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. > > Tom > > Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about > that. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 13:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? > > Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the > xml file. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > > > Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's > required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, > right? > > Right. > > > > So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? > > Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a > specific .xml > > > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > > > > Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with > this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in > the install. > > That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be > able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that > now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created > project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece > was originally written in. > > > > > How will it work for toolkits? > > I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface > and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's > > > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:24 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Julian, > > I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. > Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the > first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct > object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? > > So what is the correct object? > > Tom > > Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yes, OK. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 15 May 2012 11:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language > at 'runtime'? At least for now? > > Tom > > Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:49 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to > change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening > an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at > all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file > with no wizard support? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add > authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in > the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring > language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That > would be a good first step. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the > authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it > probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database > authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field > name(s) etc?). > > David > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 24 15:02:57 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:02:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <4FBE3875.8070907@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31AFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBE3875.8070907@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31BA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Got the checkbox thing: it's setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help says .label. Grr. Can you expand ion this a little bit / pseudo code it for me? There's no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don't load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there when it loads up. 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 14:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... Tom Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Tom, How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I can't see how you're doing it. Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. The preview.fla is different because it holds some functions to be used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and should be) the same as MainPeloader. Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31BA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31AFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBE3875.8070907@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31BA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FBE41A6.7000100@tor.nl> Ok... have a look at the latest MainPreloader.fla. It loads the xml file first. and I added an extra variable... loader.language. When the xml is loaded (look in the callback function), loader.language is set to the language attribute found in learningObject. If we could change the order of loading files in preview as well.... we could do the same. But in preview, the language config file is loaded first. Op 24-5-2012 16:02, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Got the checkbox thing: it's setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help > says .label. Grr. > > Can you expand ion this a little bit / pseudo code it for me? There's > no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don't > load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there > when it loads up. > > 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose > preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder > that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit > better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I > can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first > loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , > because now I can pickup the language attribute from the > learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than > the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like > I said, I can't test it > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 24 May 2012 14:33 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() > > But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. > > The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and > MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the > language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language > first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I > can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... > > > Tom > Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Tom, > > How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? > That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I > can't see how you're doing it. > > Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. > > The preview.fla is different because it holds some functions to be > used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and > should be) the same as MainPeloader. > > Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not > at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 23 May 2012 12:26 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. > Remaining issues: > > 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose > preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder > that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit > better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I > can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first > loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , > because now I can pickup the language attribute from the > learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than > the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like > I said, I can't test it. > > 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. > > 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the > wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. > > Tom > > Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about > that. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 13:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? > > Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the > xml file. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > > > Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's > required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, > right? > > Right. > > > > > So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? > > Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a > specific .xml > > > > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > > > > > Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with > this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in > the install. > > That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be > able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that > now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created > project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece > was originally written in. > > > > > > How will it work for toolkits? > > I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface > and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's > > > > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:24 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Julian, > > I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. > Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the > first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct > object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? > > So what is the correct object? > > Tom > > Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yes, OK. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 15 May 2012 11:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language > at 'runtime'? At least for now? > > Tom > > Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:49 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to > change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening > an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at > all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file > with no wizard support? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add > authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in > the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring > language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That > would be a good first step. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 18:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > I did do some experimentation with regards to moving all the > authentication adaptor configuration into the setup process; but it > probably needs some more thought (e.g. quite what should a database > authenticator ask for - username/hostname/password/table name/field > name(s) etc?). > > David > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 24 15:41:36 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:41:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <4FBE41A6.7000100@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <4FB0C952.1090602@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B44E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31AFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBE3875.8070907@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31BA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBE41A6.7000100@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31BFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, I think that's all done, I just zinced it and commited it, so you should be able to give it a whirl. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 15:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Ok... have a look at the latest MainPreloader.fla. It loads the xml file first. and I added an extra variable... loader.language. When the xml is loaded (look in the callback function), loader.language is set to the language attribute found in learningObject. If we could change the order of loading files in preview as well.... we could do the same. But in preview, the language config file is loaded first. Op 24-5-2012 16:02, Julian Tenney schreef: Got the checkbox thing: it's setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help says .label. Grr. Can you expand ion this a little bit / pseudo code it for me? There's no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don't load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there when it loads up. 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 14:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... Tom Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Tom, How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I can't see how you're doing it. Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. The preview.fla is different because it holds some functions to be used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and should be) the same as MainPeloader. Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 15:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Ok... have a look at the latest MainPreloader.fla. It loads the xml file first. and I added an extra variable... loader.language. When the xml is loaded (look in the callback function), loader.language is set to the language attribute found in learningObject. If we could change the order of loading files in preview as well.... we could do the same. But in preview, the language config file is loaded first. Op 24-5-2012 16:02, Julian Tenney schreef: Got the checkbox thing: it's setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help says .label. Grr. Can you expand ion this a little bit / pseudo code it for me? There's no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don't load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there when it loads up. 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 14:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... Tom Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Tom, How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I can't see how you're doing it. Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. The preview.fla is different because it holds some functions to be used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and should be) the same as MainPeloader. Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31BFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31AFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBE3875.8070907@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31BA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBE41A6.7000100@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31BFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FBE6C81.2050808@tor.nl> ehmmmm why not? Op 24-5-2012 16:42, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Damn, I can't commit for the time being... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 24 May 2012 15:12 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Ok... have a look at the latest MainPreloader.fla. > > It loads the xml file first. and I added an extra variable... > loader.language. When the xml is loaded (look in the callback > function), loader.language is set to the language attribute found in > learningObject. > > If we could change the order of loading files in preview as well.... > we could do the same. But in preview, the language config file is > loaded first. > > Op 24-5-2012 16:02, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Got the checkbox thing: it's setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help > says .label. Grr. > > Can you expand ion this a little bit / pseudo code it for me? There's > no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don't > load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there > when it loads up. > > 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose > preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder > that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit > better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I > can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first > loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , > because now I can pickup the language attribute from the > learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than > the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like > I said, I can't test it > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 24 May 2012 14:33 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() > > But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. > > The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and > MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the > language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language > first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I > can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... > > > Tom > Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Tom, > > How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? > That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I > can't see how you're doing it. > > Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. > > The preview.fla is different because it holds some functions to be > used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and > should be) the same as MainPeloader. > > Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not > at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 23 May 2012 12:26 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. > Remaining issues: > > 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose > preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder > that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit > better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I > can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first > loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , > because now I can pickup the language attribute from the > learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than > the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like > I said, I can't test it. > > 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. > > 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the > wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. > > Tom > > Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about > that. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 13:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? > > Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the > xml file. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > > > Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's > required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, > right? > > Right. > > > > > > So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? > > Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a > specific .xml > > > > > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same > .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > > Yes, in the case of XOT > > > > > > > Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with > this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in > the install. > > That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be > able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that > now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created > project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece > was originally written in. > > > > > > > How will it work for toolkits? > > I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface > and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's > > > > > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 17 May 2012 12:24 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Julian, > > I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. > Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the > first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct > object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? > > So what is the correct object? > > Tom > > Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yes, OK. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 15 May 2012 11:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language > at 'runtime'? At least for now? > > Tom > > Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:49 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to > change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening > an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at > all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file > with no wizard support? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 10:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add > authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in > the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring > language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO > properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures > the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is > that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French > exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the > authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 14 May 2012 09:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc > in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you > open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need > to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and > than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the > codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's > manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: > we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because > some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new > build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to > release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to > have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished > and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? 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Will do it when I get in ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 24 May 2012 18:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) ehmmmm why not? Op 24-5-2012 16:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Damn, I can?t commit for the time being? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 15:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Ok... have a look at the latest MainPreloader.fla. It loads the xml file first. and I added an extra variable... loader.language. When the xml is loaded (look in the callback function), loader.language is set to the language attribute found in learningObject. If we could change the order of loading files in preview as well.... we could do the same. But in preview, the language config file is loaded first. Op 24-5-2012 16:02, Julian Tenney schreef: Got the checkbox thing: it?s setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help says .label. Grr. Can you expand ion this a little bit / pseudo code it for me? There?s no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don?t load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there when it loads up. 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 14:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... Tom Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Tom, How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? That?s the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I can?t see how you?re doing it. Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. The preview.fla is different because it holds some functions to be used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and should be) the same as MainPeloader. Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it?s not at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what?s required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I?d put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage=?en-GB? Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let?s do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean? For 2 I?m not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a ?language? property that configures the soft keyboard for ?funny? characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define ?authorLanguage? and use that? I can?t think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I?d quite like them to go in this release if that?s manageable. On the other hand I?d like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we?ve had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I?d prefer not to have two releases very close together, I?d prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 25 09:38:47 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 09:38:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4C9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <4FB0D0B3.40306@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B485@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0D526.60901@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF456B4E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB0DA55.2070202@tor.nl> <4FB236F8.4030805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF46D0AAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4DFB5.7010208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FDFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4E24F.5080704@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE54@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FB4EAD8.4000501@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF568FE88@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBCC959.9030906@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31AFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBE3875.8070907@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31BA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBE41A6.7000100@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31BFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <4FBE6C81.2050808@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4C9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31DF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's there. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 25 May 2012 08:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Because our network wasn't working yesterday. Will do it when I get in ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 24 May 2012 18:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) ehmmmm why not? Op 24-5-2012 16:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Damn, I can't commit for the time being... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 15:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Ok... have a look at the latest MainPreloader.fla. It loads the xml file first. and I added an extra variable... loader.language. When the xml is loaded (look in the callback function), loader.language is set to the language attribute found in learningObject. If we could change the order of loading files in preview as well.... we could do the same. But in preview, the language config file is loaded first. Op 24-5-2012 16:02, Julian Tenney schreef: Got the checkbox thing: it's setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help says .label. Grr. Can you expand ion this a little bit / pseudo code it for me? There's no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don't load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there when it loads up. 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 14:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... Tom Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Tom, How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I can't see how you're doing it. Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. The preview.fla is different because it holds some functions to be used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and should be) the same as MainPeloader. Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. 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Julian Tenney schreef: It's there. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 25 May 2012 08:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Because our network wasn't working yesterday. Will do it when I get in _____________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 24 May 2012 18:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) ehmmmm why not? Op 24-5-2012 16:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Damn, I can't commit for the time being... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 15:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Ok... have a look at the latest MainPreloader.fla. It loads the xml file first. and I added an extra variable... loader.language. When the xml is loaded (look in the callback function), loader.language is set to the language attribute found in learningObject. If we could change the order of loading files in preview as well.... we could do the same. But in preview, the language config file is loaded first. Op 24-5-2012 16:02, Julian Tenney schreef: Got the checkbox thing: it's setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help says .label. Grr. Can you expand ion this a little bit / pseudo code it for me? There's no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don't load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there when it loads up. 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 14:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... Tom Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Tom, How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I can't see how you're doing it. Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. The preview.fla is different because it holds some functions to be used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and should be) the same as MainPeloader. Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I understand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. 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In-Reply-To: References: <0aafc7dc-cd50-4094-a663-479ea6ef8c07@email.android.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31ED2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> cheers From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 25 May 2012 10:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I'll make a new beta-installer.. -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. Julian Tenney schreef: It's there. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 25 May 2012 08:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Because our network wasn't working yesterday. Will do it when I get in ________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 24 May 2012 18:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) ehmmmm why not? Op 24-5-2012 16:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Damn, I can't commit for the time being... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 15:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Ok... have a look at the latest MainPreloader.fla. It loads the xml file first. and I added an extra variable... loader.language. When the xml is loaded (look in the callback function), loader.language is set to the language attribute found in learningObject. If we could change the order of loading files in preview as well.... we could do the same. But in preview, the language config file is loaded first. Op 24-5-2012 16:02, Julian Tenney schreef: Got the checkbox thing: it's setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help says .label. Grr. Can you expand ion this a litt le bit / pseudo code it for me? There's no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don't load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there when it loads up. 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 14:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... Tom Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Tom, How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I can't see how you're doing it. Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. The preview .fla is different because it holds some functions to be used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and should be) the same as MainPeloader. Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assu me this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I und erstand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers< br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? F rom: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Su bject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. 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In-Reply-To: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <004001cd3a62$a40501d0$ec0f0570$@co.uk> Hi all just wanted to check that I haven't missed anything - as far as I can tell there haven't been any changes to XOT 1.8 beta code since my previous message below? So all the remaining issues in the Google doc are still outstanding including a few key php/web site code issues like those with media & quota etc Are the latest changes to Xerte going to be added to the XOT svn or any other XOT updates? Just wanted to check/confirmed that nothing has changed with regards to XOT since 12th May? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 May 2012 12:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] any updated code to add to the test server? Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. Cheers Ron BTW The Google doc is up-to-date as far as I can tell but I know Julian plans to add one or two issues to that. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all just wanted to check that I haven't missed anything - as far as I can tell there haven't been any changes to XOT 1.8 beta code since my previous message below? So all the remaining issues in the Google doc are still outstanding including a few key php/web site code issues like those with media & quota etc Are the latest changes to Xerte going to be added to the XOT svn or any other XOT updates? Just wanted to check/confirmed that nothing has changed with regards to XOT since 12th May? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 May 2012 12:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] any updated code to add to the test server? Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. Cheers Ron BTW The Google doc is up-to-date as far as I can tell but I know Julian plans to add one or two issues to that. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all just wanted to check that I haven't missed anything - as far as I can tell there haven't been any changes to XOT 1.8 beta code since my previous message below? So all the remaining issues in the Google doc are still outstanding including a few key php/web site code issues like those with media & quota etc Are the latest changes to Xerte going to be added to the XOT svn or any other XOT updates? Just wanted to check/confirmed that nothing has changed with regards to XOT since 12th May? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 May 2012 12:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] any updated code to add to the test server? Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. Cheers Ron BTW The Google doc is up-to-date as far as I can tell but I know Julian plans to add one or two issues to that. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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I can add a couple of lines to every model that will display the "name" value from the XML data for the page as the page title in the top left corner, but it still won't appear in the TOC. Currently desktop Xerte takes the value entered in the Page's Title property in the Page's property page as the value to display in the TOC and top left of the screen. If there was a way that Xerte, on closure of the xwd form could access the "name" value of the top element in the page's xml data, and then write this to the page's "title" property, then both the display of the page title in the TOC and in the top left corner of the screen would be resolved without any change to the models. Is this doable? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 25 13:25:56 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:25:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB1BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Can you suggest a process? When the name attribute changes in the wizard if (xerte) and if (pages) call some function in the editor to set the property? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 May 2012 12:33 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. Having read recent postings it looks like some work is taking place on the various flash files that drive Xerte. One of the outstanding items that needs a solution is how the "name" value in a page's xml data can be made to display as the page title, both in the top left of the Xerte screen and in the TOC. I think this is resolved in XOT because the pages are created at runtime from the XML data, but in "pages" projects this is not the case. I can add a couple of lines to every model that will display the "name" value from the XML data for the page as the page title in the top left corner, but it still won't appear in the TOC. Currently desktop Xerte takes the value entered in the Page's Title property in the Page's property page as the value to display in the TOC and top left of the screen. If there was a way that Xerte, on closure of the xwd form could access the "name" value of the top element in the page's xml data, and then write this to the page's "title" property, then both the display of the page title in the TOC and in the top left corner of the screen would be resolved without any change to the models. Is this doable? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 25 13:40:41 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:40:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? In-Reply-To: <005101cd3a65$88fa5ef0$9aef1cd0$@co.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <004001cd3a62$a40501d0$ec0f0570$@co.uk> <005101cd3a65$88fa5ef0$9aef1cd0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB1D6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I haven?t changed anything. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 25 May 2012 12:00 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? Ok cheers Tom - will watch out for updates. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 25 May 2012 11:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? I'll have some time this weekend... -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. Ron Mitchell > schreef: Hi all just wanted to check that I haven't missed anything - as far as I can tell there haven't been any changes to XOT 1.8 beta code since my previous message below? So all the remaining issues in the Google doc are still outstanding including a few key php/web site code issues like those with media & quota etc Are the latest changes to Xerte going to be added to the XOT svn or any other XOT updates? Just wanted to check/confirmed that nothing has changed with regards to XOT since 12th May? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 May 2012 12:19 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] any updated code to add to the test server? Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. Cheers Ron BTW The Google doc is up-to-date as far as I can tell but I know Julian plans to add one or two issues to that. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri May 25 13:59:00 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:59:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB1BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB1BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think it could be even simpler than that. on closure of xwd form If (projectType == "pages") { access xml for name value of first element; write name value of first element into page Icon's page title property; } I wouldn't bother even checking if the name value has changed unless the overhead of doing the process was significant. Removing the check makes the process quicker and It's not taking place when viewing the project so it won't slow down the learner experience one jot. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 May 2012 13:25, Julian Tenney wrote: > Can you suggest a process? > > > > When the name attribute changes in the wizard if (xerte) and if (pages) > call some function in the editor to set the property? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 12:33 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop > Xerte. > > > > Having read recent postings it looks like some work is taking place on the > various flash files that drive Xerte. > > > > One of the outstanding items that needs a solution is how the "name" value > in a page's xml data can be made to display as the page title, both in the > top left of the Xerte screen and in the TOC. > > > > I think this is resolved in XOT because the pages are created at runtime > from the XML data, but in "pages" projects this is not the case. > > > > I can add a couple of lines to every model that will display the "name" > value from the XML data for the page as the page title in the top left > corner, but it still won't appear in the TOC. > > > > Currently desktop Xerte takes the value entered in the Page's Title > property in the Page's property page as the value to display in the TOC and > top left of the screen. If there was a way that Xerte, on closure of the > xwd form could access the "name" value of the top element in the page's xml > data, and then write this to the page's "title" property, then both the > display of the page title in the TOC and in the top left corner of the > screen would be resolved without any change to the models. > > > > Is this doable? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 May 2012 13:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. I think it could be even simpler than that. on closure of xwd form If (projectType == "pages") { access xml for name value of first element; write name value of first element into page Icon's page title property; } I wouldn't bother even checking if the name value has changed unless the overhead of doing the process was significant. Removing the check makes the process quicker and It's not taking place when viewing the project so it won't slow down the learner experience one jot. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 May 2012 13:25, Julian Tenney > wrote: Can you suggest a process? When the name attribute changes in the wizard if (xerte) and if (pages) call some function in the editor to set the property? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 May 2012 12:33 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. Having read recent postings it looks like some work is taking place on the various flash files that drive Xerte. One of the outstanding items that needs a solution is how the "name" value in a page's xml data can be made to display as the page title, both in the top left of the Xerte screen and in the TOC. I think this is resolved in XOT because the pages are created at runtime from the XML data, but in "pages" projects this is not the case. I can add a couple of lines to every model that will display the "name" value from the XML data for the page as the page title in the top left corner, but it still won't appear in the TOC. Currently desktop Xerte takes the value entered in the Page's Title property in the Page's property page as the value to display in the TOC and top left of the screen. If there was a way that Xerte, on closure of the xwd form could access the "name" value of the top element in the page's xml data, and then write this to the page's "title" property, then both the display of the page title in the TOC and in the top left corner of the screen would be resolved without any change to the models. Is this doable? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri May 25 14:01:17 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 14:01:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? In-Reply-To: <005101cd3a65$88fa5ef0$9aef1cd0$@co.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <004001cd3a62$a40501d0$ec0f0570$@co.uk> <005101cd3a65$88fa5ef0$9aef1cd0$@co.uk> Message-ID: I have updated the Scenario page in the pageWizards section of the SVN. But I have not copied it to the XOT svn yet. I want to run a few more tests, whilst I create the documentation to support its use. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 May 2012 11:59, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Ok cheers Tom - will watch out for updates. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 11:48 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > > > I'll have some time this weekend... > -- > Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. > > Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi all > > just wanted to check that I haven't missed anything - as far as I can tell > there haven't been any changes to XOT 1.8 beta code since my previous > message below? So all the remaining issues in the Google doc are still > outstanding including a few key php/web site code issues like those with > media & quota etc > > > > Are the latest changes to Xerte going to be added to the XOT svn or any > other XOT updates? > > > > Just wanted to check/confirmed that nothing has changed with regards to > XOT since 12th May? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 12:19 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] any updated code to add to the test server? > > > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new > code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if anyone is > working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested during the coming > week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > BTW The Google doc is up-to-date as far as I can tell but I know Julian > plans to add one or two issues to that. > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri May 25 14:06:38 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 14:06:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB202@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB1BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB202@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I would guess not. I don't know if Tom put anything in when you select to create a project of type "pages". At present there is a value set in a setup script off the entryFrame rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; which is used to tell the model files that they are not in XOT or pageTemplates. However if there is something being flagged in the "pages" type projects that would be accessible to the page scripts then this might be a better solution also for triggering the models than having something in the setup script. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 May 2012 14:00, Julian Tenney wrote: > Does the wizard know about projectType? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 13:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in > desktop Xerte. > > > > I think it could be even simpler than that. > > > > on closure of xwd form > > If (projectType == "pages") { > > access xml for name value of first element; > > write name value of first element into page Icon's page title property; > > } > > > > I wouldn't bother even checking if the name value has changed unless the > overhead of doing the process was significant. Removing the check makes the > process quicker and It's not taking place when viewing the project so it > won't slow down the learner experience one jot. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 25 May 2012 13:25, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Can you suggest a process? > > > > When the name attribute changes in the wizard if (xerte) and if (pages) > call some function in the editor to set the property? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 12:33 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop > Xerte. > > > > Having read recent postings it looks like some work is taking place on the > various flash files that drive Xerte. > > > > One of the outstanding items that needs a solution is how the "name" value > in a page's xml data can be made to display as the page title, both in the > top left of the Xerte screen and in the TOC. > > > > I think this is resolved in XOT because the pages are created at runtime > from the XML data, but in "pages" projects this is not the case. > > > > I can add a couple of lines to every model that will display the "name" > value from the XML data for the page as the page title in the top left > corner, but it still won't appear in the TOC. > > > > Currently desktop Xerte takes the value entered in the Page's Title > property in the Page's property page as the value to display in the TOC and > top left of the screen. If there was a way that Xerte, on closure of the > xwd form could access the "name" value of the top element in the page's xml > data, and then write this to the page's "title" property, then both the > display of the page title in the TOC and in the top left corner of the > screen would be resolved without any change to the models. > > > > Is this doable? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri May 25 16:41:22 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 16:41:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB1BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB202@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB33D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hiya, given I am consistently not getting time to do the things I've already commited myself to, this is going to have to be something you'll have to look into yourself. But if you can do those tow ifs, then you can easily write a function in the editor to set the attribute, and you can easily call that fom the wizard. What you need to resolve is how to know if(xerte) && if (pages) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 May 2012 14:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. I would guess not. I don't know if Tom put anything in when you select to create a project of type "pages". At present there is a value set in a setup script off the entryFrame rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; which is used to tell the model files that they are not in XOT or pageTemplates. However if there is something being flagged in the "pages" type projects that would be accessible to the page scripts then this might be a better solution also for triggering the models than having something in the setup script. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 May 2012 14:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: Does the wizard know about projectType? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 May 2012 13:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. I think it could be even simpler than that. on closure of xwd form If (projectType == "pages") { access xml for name value of first element; write name value of first element into page Icon's page title property; } I wouldn't bother even checking if the name value has changed unless the overhead of doing the process was significant. Removing the check makes the process quicker and It's not taking place when viewing the project so it won't slow down the learner experience one jot. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 May 2012 13:25, Julian Tenney > wrote: Can you suggest a process? When the name attribute changes in the wizard if (xerte) and if (pages) call some function in the editor to set the property? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 May 2012 12:33 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. Having read recent postings it looks like some work is taking place on the various flash files that drive Xerte. One of the outstanding items that needs a solution is how the "name" value in a page's xml data can be made to display as the page title, both in the top left of the Xerte screen and in the TOC. I think this is resolved in XOT because the pages are created at runtime from the XML data, but in "pages" projects this is not the case. I can add a couple of lines to every model that will display the "name" value from the XML data for the page as the page title in the top left corner, but it still won't appear in the TOC. Currently desktop Xerte takes the value entered in the Page's Title property in the Page's property page as the value to display in the TOC and top left of the screen. If there was a way that Xerte, on closure of the xwd form could access the "name" value of the top element in the page's xml data, and then write this to the page's "title" property, then both the display of the page title in the TOC and in the top left corner of the screen would be resolved without any change to the models. Is this doable? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31ED2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <0aafc7dc-cd50-4094-a663-479ea6ef8c07@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31ED2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FBFAC59.60700@tor.nl> Bit later than I wanted, but the new beta installer can be found at http://www.xerte.org.uk/beta/xerte-beta.exe Op 25-5-2012 11:45, Julian Tenney schreef: > > cheers > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 10:45 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any > updated code to add to the test server?) > > I'll make a new beta-installer.. > -- > Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. > > Julian Tenney schreef: > > It's there. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 25 May 2012 08:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Because our network wasn't working yesterday. Will do it when I get in > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] > Sent: 24 May 2012 18:14 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > ehmmmm why not? > > Op 24-5-2012 16:42, Julian Tenney schreef: > Damn, I can't commit for the time being... > *From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 24 May 2012 15:12 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Ok... have a look at the latest MainPreloader.fla. > > It loads the xml file first. and I added an extra variable... loader.language. When the xml is loaded (look in the callback function), loader.language is set to the language attribute found in learningObject. > > If we could change the order of loading files in preview as well.... we could do the same. But in preview, the language config file is loaded first. > > Op 24-5-2012 16:02, Julian Tenney schreef: > Got the checkbox thing: it's setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help says .label. Grr. > > Can you expand ion this a litt* > * le bit* > */ pseudo code it for me? There's no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don't load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there when it loads up. > 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On* > * Behalf* > *Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 24 May 2012 14:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() > > But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. > > The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... > > > Tom > Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: > Tom, > > How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I can't see how you're doing it. > > Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. > > The preview* > * .fla is* > *different because it holds some functions to be used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and should be) the same as MainPeloader. > > Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: > > 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assu* > * me this* > *is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. > > 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. > > 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. > > Tom > > Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 > To: For Xerte* > *technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? > > Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > Yes, in the case of XOT > > Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > > > Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: > You might need to back-peddle a bit while I und* > * erstand* > *what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? > Right. > > > > > > > So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? > Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml > > > > > > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > Yes, in the case of XOT > > > > > > > > Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. > That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. > > > > > > > > How* > *will it work for toolkits? > I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Julian, > > I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? > > So what is the correct object? > > Tom > > Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > Yes, OK. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? > > Tom > > Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 > To: For Xerte technical developers<* > * br* > */>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of* > * Windows* > *Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > F* > * rom:* > *xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri May 25 18:08:55 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 19:08:55 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB33D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB1BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB202@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB33D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FBFBCA7.8010908@tor.nl> Jonathan, I'll have a look. If it's easy to do I will. Problem is that at the moment there is no need for the editor to access the xml file. So I need to add that in order to implement this. Like I said, if that's easy to do, I wil. Op 25-5-2012 17:41, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Hiya, given I am consistently not getting time to do the things I've > already commited myself to, this is going to have to be something > you'll have to look into yourself. But if you can do those tow ifs, > then you can easily write a function in the editor to set the > attribute, and you can easily call that fom the wizard. What you need > to resolve is how to know if(xerte) && if (pages) > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 14:07 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in > desktop Xerte. > > I would guess not. > > I don't know if Tom put anything in when you select to create a > project of type "pages". > > At present there is a value set in a setup script off the entryFrame > > rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; > > which is used to tell the model files that they are not in XOT or > pageTemplates. > > However if there is something being flagged in the "pages" type > projects that would be accessible to the page scripts then this might > be a better solution also for triggering the models than having > something in the setup script. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 25 May 2012 14:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Does the wizard know about projectType? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 13:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in > desktop Xerte. > > I think it could be even simpler than that. > > on closure of xwd form > > If (projectType == "pages") { > > access xml for name value of first element; > > write name value of first element into page Icon's page title property; > > } > > I wouldn't bother even checking if the name value has changed unless > the overhead of doing the process was significant. Removing the check > makes the process quicker and It's not taking place when viewing the > project so it won't slow down the learner experience one jot. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 25 May 2012 13:25, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Can you suggest a process? > > When the name attribute changes in the wizard if (xerte) and if > (pages) call some function in the editor to set the property? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 12:33 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop > Xerte. > > Having read recent postings it looks like some work is taking place on > the various flash files that drive Xerte. > > One of the outstanding items that needs a solution is how the "name" > value in a page's xml data can be made to display as the page title, > both in the top left of the Xerte screen and in the TOC. > > I think this is resolved in XOT because the pages are created at > runtime from the XML data, but in "pages" projects this is not the case. > > I can add a couple of lines to every model that will display the > "name" value from the XML data for the page as the page title in the > top left corner, but it still won't appear in the TOC. > > Currently desktop Xerte takes the value entered in the Page's Title > property in the Page's property page as the value to display in the > TOC and top left of the screen. If there was a way that Xerte, on > closure of the xwd form could access the "name" value of the top > element in the page's xml data, and then write this to the page's > "title" property, then both the display of the page title in the TOC > and in the top left corner of the screen would be resolved without any > change to the models. > > Is this doable? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri May 25 18:18:18 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 18:18:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. In-Reply-To: <4FBFBCA7.8010908@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB1BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB202@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB33D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBFBCA7.8010908@tor.nl> Message-ID: Thanks Tom, Kind regards Johnathan On 25 May 2012 18:08, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Jonathan, > > I'll have a look. If it's easy to do I will. Problem is that at the moment > there is no need for the editor to access the xml file. So I need to add > that in order to implement this. Like I said, if that's easy to do, I wil. > > Op 25-5-2012 17:41, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Hiya, given I am consistently not getting time to do the things I?ve > already commited myself to, this is going to have to be something you?ll > have to look into yourself. But if you can do those tow ifs, then you can > easily write a function in the editor to set the attribute, and you can > easily call that fom the wizard. What you need to resolve is how to know > if(xerte) && if (pages) > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 14:07 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in > desktop Xerte. > > > > I would guess not. > > > > I don't know if Tom put anything in when you select to create a project of > type "pages". > > > > At present there is a value set in a setup script off the entryFrame > > > > rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; > > > > which is used to tell the model files that they are not in XOT or > pageTemplates. > > > > However if there is something being flagged in the "pages" type projects > that would be accessible to the page scripts then this might be a better > solution also for triggering the models than having something in the setup > script. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 25 May 2012 14:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Does the wizard know about projectType? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 13:59 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in > desktop Xerte. > > > > I think it could be even simpler than that. > > > > on closure of xwd form > > If (projectType == "pages") { > > access xml for name value of first element; > > write name value of first element into page Icon's page title property; > > } > > > > I wouldn't bother even checking if the name value has changed unless the > overhead of doing the process was significant. Removing the check makes the > process quicker and It's not taking place when viewing the project so it > won't slow down the learner experience one jot. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 25 May 2012 13:25, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Can you suggest a process? > > > > When the name attribute changes in the wizard if (xerte) and if (pages) > call some function in the editor to set the property? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 12:33 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop > Xerte. > > > > Having read recent postings it looks like some work is taking place on the > various flash files that drive Xerte. > > > > One of the outstanding items that needs a solution is how the "name" value > in a page's xml data can be made to display as the page title, both in the > top left of the Xerte screen and in the TOC. > > > > I think this is resolved in XOT because the pages are created at runtime > from the XML data, but in "pages" projects this is not the case. > > > > I can add a couple of lines to every model that will display the "name" > value from the XML data for the page as the page title in the top left > corner, but it still won't appear in the TOC. > > > > Currently desktop Xerte takes the value entered in the Page's Title > property in the Page's property page as the value to display in the TOC and > top left of the screen. If there was a way that Xerte, on closure of the > xwd form could access the "name" value of the top element in the page's xml > data, and then write this to the page's "title" property, then both the > display of the page title in the TOC and in the top left corner of the > screen would be resolved without any change to the models. > > > > Is this doable? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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In-Reply-To: <4FBFAC59.60700@tor.nl> References: <0aafc7dc-cd50-4094-a663-479ea6ef8c07@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31ED2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <4FBFAC59.60700@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4CB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Does it all appear to behave? Is there anything left to do? ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 25 May 2012 16:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Bit later than I wanted, but the new beta installer can be found at http://www.xerte.org.uk/beta/xerte-beta.exe Op 25-5-2012 11:45, Julian Tenney schreef: cheers From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 25 May 2012 10:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I'll make a new beta-installer.. -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. Julian Tenney schreef: It's there. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 25 May 2012 08:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Because our network wasn't working yesterday. Will do it when I get in ________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 24 May 2012 18:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) ehmmmm why not? Op 24-5-2012 16:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Damn, I can't commit for the time being... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 15:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Ok... have a look at the latest MainPreloader.fla. It loads the xml file first. and I added an extra variable... loader.language. When the xml is loaded (look in the callback function), loader.language is set to the language attribute found in learningObject. If we could change the order of loading files in preview as well.... we could do the same. But in preview, the language config file is loaded first. Op 24-5-2012 16:02, Julian Tenney schreef: Got the checkbox thing: it's setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help says .label. Grr. Can you expand ion this a litt le bit / pseudo code it for me? There's no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don't load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there when it loads up. 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 May 2012 14:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... Tom Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: Tom, How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I can't see how you're doing it. Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. The preview .fla is different because it holds some functions to be used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and should be) the same as MainPeloader. Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assu me this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. Tom Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: You might need to back-peddle a bit while I und erstand what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? Right. So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? Yes, in the case of XOT Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. How will it work for toolkits? I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Julian, I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? So what is the correct object? Tom Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, OK. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? Tom Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll give it a go.... Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" Defaults to English I guess. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 To: For Xerte technical developers< br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. So... 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? I can't think of any other way, can you? F rom: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) I created a separate topic for the Windows version... I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? That would be a good first step. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 May 2012 18:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Su bject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? On 12 May 2012, at 12:18, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Sat May 26 11:34:26 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 12:34:26 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB1BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB202@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB33D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBFBCA7.8010908@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FC0B1B2.7090107@tor.nl> Hmm... I don't know (in the editor) when the Wizard is closed.... Op 25-5-2012 19:18, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > Thanks Tom, > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 25 May 2012 18:08, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Jonathan, > > I'll have a look. If it's easy to do I will. Problem is that at > the moment there is no need for the editor to access the xml file. > So I need to add that in order to implement this. Like I said, if > that's easy to do, I wil. > > Op 25-5-2012 17:41, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Hiya, given I am consistently not getting time to do the things >> I've already commited myself to, this is going to have to be >> something you'll have to look into yourself. But if you can do >> those tow ifs, then you can easily write a function in the editor >> to set the attribute, and you can easily call that fom the >> wizard. What you need to resolve is how to know if(xerte) && if >> (pages) >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of >> *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 25 May 2012 14:07 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC >> in desktop Xerte. >> >> I would guess not. >> >> I don't know if Tom put anything in when you select to create a >> project of type "pages". >> >> At present there is a value set in a setup script off the entryFrame >> >> rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; >> >> which is used to tell the model files that they are not in XOT or >> pageTemplates. >> >> However if there is something being flagged in the "pages" type >> projects that would be accessible to the page scripts then this >> might be a better solution also for triggering the models than >> having something in the setup script. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 25 May 2012 14:00, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Does the wizard know about projectType? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf Of >> *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 25 May 2012 13:59 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC >> in desktop Xerte. >> >> I think it could be even simpler than that. >> >> on closure of xwd form >> >> If (projectType == "pages") { >> >> access xml for name value of first element; >> >> write name value of first element into page Icon's page title >> property; >> >> } >> >> I wouldn't bother even checking if the name value has changed >> unless the overhead of doing the process was significant. >> Removing the check makes the process quicker and It's not taking >> place when viewing the project so it won't slow down the learner >> experience one jot. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 25 May 2012 13:25, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Can you suggest a process? >> >> When the name attribute changes in the wizard if (xerte) and if >> (pages) call some function in the editor to set the property? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf Of >> *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 25 May 2012 12:33 >> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Displaying the page title in the TOC in >> desktop Xerte. >> >> Having read recent postings it looks like some work is taking >> place on the various flash files that drive Xerte. >> >> One of the outstanding items that needs a solution is how the >> "name" value in a page's xml data can be made to display as the >> page title, both in the top left of the Xerte screen and in the TOC. >> >> I think this is resolved in XOT because the pages are created at >> runtime from the XML data, but in "pages" projects this is not >> the case. >> >> I can add a couple of lines to every model that will display the >> "name" value from the XML data for the page as the page title in >> the top left corner, but it still won't appear in the TOC. >> >> Currently desktop Xerte takes the value entered in the Page's >> Title property in the Page's property page as the value to >> display in the TOC and top left of the screen. If there was a way >> that Xerte, on closure of the xwd form could access the "name" >> value of the top element in the page's xml data, and then write >> this to the page's "title" property, then both the display of the >> page title in the TOC and in the top left corner of the screen >> would be resolved without any change to the models. >> >> Is this doable? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Sat May 26 12:02:23 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:02:23 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4CB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <0aafc7dc-cd50-4094-a663-479ea6ef8c07@email.android.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5B31ED2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <4FBFAC59.60700@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4CB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC0B83F.50801@tor.nl> Yes, save a small thing I already fixed in one of the pages files. Op 25-5-2012 22:51, Julian Tenney schreef: > Does it all appear to behave? Is there anything left to do? > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] > Sent: 25 May 2012 16:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Bit later than I wanted, but the new beta installer can be found at http://www.xerte.org.uk/beta/xerte-beta.exe > > > Op 25-5-2012 11:45, Julian Tenney schreef: > cheers > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 25 May 2012 10:45 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > I'll make a new beta-installer.. > -- > Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. > Julian Tenney schreef: > > It's there. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 25 May 2012 08:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Because our network wasn't working yesterday. Will do it when I get in > > ________________________________ > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] > Sent: 24 May 2012 18:14 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > ehmmmm why not? > > Op 24-5-2012 16:42, Julian Tenney schreef: > Damn, I can't commit for the time being... > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 24 May 2012 15:12 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Ok... have a look at the latest MainPreloader.fla. > > It loads the xml file first. and I added an extra variable... loader.language. When the xml is loaded (look in the callback function), loader.language is set to the language attribute found in learningObject. > > If we could change the order of loading files in preview as well.... we could do the same. But in preview, the language config file is loaded first. > > Op 24-5-2012 16:02, Julian Tenney schreef: > Got the checkbox thing: it's setLabel(), not .label. I know, the help says .label. Grr. > > Can you expand ion this a litt > > le bit > > / pseudo code it for me? There's no problem swapping things around, as long as (obviously) you don't load XMLEngine until last, it will expect the content XML to be there when it loads up. > 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assume this is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On > > Behalf > > Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 24 May 2012 14:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > There is a new function in the wizard setTranslation() > > But somehow it doesn't work for the check boxes. > > The order of loading the files s different in preview.fla and MainPreloader.fla. MainPreloader loads the xml first and then the language files. Great! I want it thatway. preview loads the language first, and I don't see any reason why we couldn't change that, but I can't test that. I don't have Zinc.... > > > Tom > Op 24-5-2012 14:42, Julian Tenney schreef: > Tom, > > How are you setting translated text on the buttons in the wizard? That's the place to set the labels for the checkboxes as well, but I can't see how you're doing it. > > Yes, the MainPreloader.swf in XOT is the same one as in Xerte. > > The preview > > .fla is > > different because it holds some functions to be used at edit time, called from Editor.fla, but is otherwise (and should be) the same as MainPeloader. > > Preview.fla needs building into the exe with Zinc, otherwise it's not at _level0, which matters to xerte script code, and code in the engine. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 23 May 2012 12:26 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Tackled almost all language settings in the standalone version. Remaining issues: > > 1. When previewing, the engine doesn't switch language. I suppose preview.fla needs editing, but it differs too much from MainPrelaoder that I did not dare to touch it without understanding it a bit better. I assu > > me this > > is built right into the xerte executable, so I can't test this, I can't build the Xerte.exe. MainPreloader first loads the xml, and than the language files. That's convenient , because now I can pickup the language attribute from the learningObject. preview.fla loads the language config first and than the xml, but I don't know whether it is safe to change that, and like I said, I can't test it. > > 2. I assume the MainPreloader has to end up in XOT as well. > > 3. Still two strings (from the checkboxes) on the status bar of the wizard are not translated, and I don't know why not. > > Tom > > Op 17-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > The editor knows nothing of the xml file, only the wizard knows about that. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 17 May 2012 13:11 > To: For Xerte > > technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Agree..., but what object in the editor contains the xml....? > > Op 17-5-2012 14:04, Julian Tenney schreef: > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > Yes, in the case of XOT > > Then the setting has to live with something project-specific, i.e. the xml file. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 17 May 2012 12:35 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > > > Op 17-5-2012 13:27, Julian Tenney schreef: > You might need to back-peddle a bit while I und > > erstand > > what's required: this is to configure the language for a particular project, right? > Right. > > > > > > > So for a particular .rlo or .rlt file? > Ehmmm... yes in Xerte standalone, not in XOT, than it is for a specific .xml > > > > > > > In the case of templates based projects, could it be that the same .rlt is used to author pieces in lots of languages? > Yes, in the case of XOT > > > > > > > > Or is this an application-wide setting, for all projects made with this version of xerte? In which case, put it in a file somewhere in the install. > That is also an option, but not the one I thought of. I wanted to be able to choose the language for each piece seperately. I have that now, it is in the Pages menu, but if I open a previously created project, I want the editor/wizard to switch to the language the piece was originally written in. > > > > > > > > How > > will it work for toolkits? > I would assume in toolkits, you set the language of the user interface and that determines the language of the wizard and the xwd's > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 17 May 2012 12:24 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Julian, > > I have a hard time finding the proper/best place to add this feature. Firt I thought the only thing I had to do was add the attribute to the first child of contentXML in editor.fla, but that's not the correct object. contentXML contains the .rlm/.rlo/.rlt. Right? > > So what is the correct object? > > Tom > > Op 15-5-2012 13:00, Julian Tenney schreef: > Yes, OK. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 15 May 2012 11:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Hmmm... I assume we will use this also to select the engine language at 'runtime'? At least for now? > > Tom > > Op 14-5-2012 12:11, Tom Reijnders schreef: > I'll give it a go.... > > Op 14-5-2012 12:03, Julian Tenney schreef: > I'd put it on the LO tag as an attribute authorLanguage="en-GB" > > Defaults to English I guess. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 14 May 2012 10:49 > To: For Xerte technical developers< > > br > > />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > Yes, I don't see any reason for wizard support. Why would you want to change the authoring language. > > So... > > 1. Where should we (I) add that attribute to the xml. > 2. What is the most logical place to check that attribute when opening an LO? > > One other small issue is how to determine the default language (if at all) when opening Xerte (with no LO , so from the link on the desktop) > > Op 14-5-2012 11:31, Julian Tenney schreef: > OK, let's do that: you mean just add it to the bare bones xml file with no wizard support? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 14 May 2012 10:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of > > Windows > > Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > For 2. No I think we should seperate the two, and thus add authorlanguage. I assume it will be in the xml. No use to expose it in the xwd. I don't see any reason why you would change your authoring language at the moment. > > For 1. I'll take that off-line and send you a screen shot. > > Op 14-5-2012 11:06, Julian Tenney schreef: > How do I see an example of 1? Not sure what you mean... > > For 2 I'm not sure either: I guess we need to expose it on the LO properties, but there is already a 'language' property that configures the soft keyboard for 'funny' characters. The trouble with that is that the LO might well be written in English, but includes French exercises, so the language would be set to French, even though the authoring language was English. > > Maybe we just need to define 'authorLanguage' and use that? > > I can't think of any other way, can you? > > F > > rom: > > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 14 May 2012 09:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: new release of Windows Xerte (Was: any updated code to add to the test server?) > > I created a separate topic for the Windows version... > > I will generate a new beta in 15 minutes. > > two things need to happen (as far as I am concerned) > - I can't get the translation into the two checkboxes (advanced etc in the wizard. Don't know why) > - I need a way to put the editor in the correct language mode if you open an existing LO that was created with a different language mode than. > > Don't know exactly what the easiest way is to do 2. Obviously we need to add a way to store the selected language in the xml of the LO, and than act on that when opening the LO in Xerte. > > Op 14-5-2012 10:49, Julian Tenney schreef: > How long do you reckon you need to get those enhancements into the codebase? I'd quite like them to go in this release if that's manageable. On the other hand I'd like to get this release done asap: we want to upgrade our installation here to the latest code, because some of the requests we've had from people here are only in the new build; also, we have the Xenith project up and running and want to release the HTML5 stuff in October when that ends: I'd prefer not to have two releases very close together, I'd prefer to get this finished and on the web site soon. > > Are we in a position to release a updated Xerte for Windows? 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Sat May 26 12:09:18 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:09:18 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Multi language wizard in XOT Message-ID: <4FC0B9DE.1020008@tor.nl> The multilanguage wizard is ready for Xerte Standalone, but I need to figure out how to make it work in XOT. In Xerte the current language choice is given to the wizard with a call of the editor to init, but XOT does never call init. So I assume I have to set a flashvar and make sure that somewhere the labels are set correctly (also only done in init at the moment, but that is not good enough for XOT). Julian, am I right that not calling init is the reason the wizard is not working in XOT like I expect? -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sat May 26 13:02:49 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:02:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Multi language wizard in XOT In-Reply-To: <4FC0B9DE.1020008@tor.nl> References: <4FC0B9DE.1020008@tor.nl> Message-ID: <8B433CA2-349C-4A2D-975F-FE238861705B@googlemail.com> The XOT statement is at the bottom of the wizard I think If web or some statement like that On 26 May 2012, at 12:09, Tom Reijnders wrote: > The multilanguage wizard is ready for Xerte Standalone, but I need to figure out how to make it work in XOT. > > In Xerte the current language choice is given to the wizard with a call of the editor to init, but XOT does never call init. > > So I assume I have to set a flashvar and make sure that somewhere the labels are set correctly (also only done in init at the moment, but that is not good enough for XOT). > > Julian, am I right that not calling init is the reason the wizard is not working in XOT like I expect? > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From reijnders at tor.nl Sat May 26 13:43:23 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 14:43:23 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Multi language wizard in XOT In-Reply-To: <8B433CA2-349C-4A2D-975F-FE238861705B@googlemail.com> References: <4FC0B9DE.1020008@tor.nl> <8B433CA2-349C-4A2D-975F-FE238861705B@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4FC0CFEB.2030702@tor.nl> Ah yes! Thank you! Op 26-5-2012 14:02, Pat Lockley schreef: > The XOT statement is at the bottom of the wizard I think > > If web or some statement like that > > On 26 May 2012, at 12:09, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> The multilanguage wizard is ready for Xerte Standalone, but I need to figure out how to make it work in XOT. >> >> In Xerte the current language choice is given to the wizard with a call of the editor to init, but XOT does never call init. >> >> So I assume I have to set a flashvar and make sure that somewhere the labels are set correctly (also only done in init at the moment, but that is not good enough for XOT). >> >> Julian, am I right that not calling init is the reason the wizard is not working in XOT like I expect? >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Sat May 26 14:32:48 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 15:32:48 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? In-Reply-To: <005101cd3a65$88fa5ef0$9aef1cd0$@co.uk> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <004001cd3a62$a40501d0$ec0f0570$@co.uk> <005101cd3a65$88fa5ef0$9aef1cd0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FC0DB80.7000407@tor.nl> Ron, fixed the two issues with the media and quota tab (I hope) And comitted the changes made to the MainPreloader.swf and the Wizard.swf for multilanguage support. Op 25-5-2012 12:59, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Ok cheers Tom - will watch out for updates. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 25 May 2012 11:48 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? > > I'll have some time this weekend... > -- > Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. > > Ron Mitchell > schreef: > > Hi all > > just wanted to check that I haven't missed anything - as far as I can > tell there haven't been any changes to XOT 1.8 beta code since my > previous message below? So all the remaining issues in the Google doc > are still outstanding including a few key php/web site code issues > like those with media & quota etc > > Are the latest changes to Xerte going to be added to the XOT svn or > any other XOT updates? > > Just wanted to check/confirmed that nothing has changed with regards > to XOT since 12th May? > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 12 May 2012 12:19 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] any updated code to add to the test server? > > Hi all > > just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any > new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if > anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested > during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. > > Cheers > > Ron > > BTW The Google doc is up-to-date as far as I can tell but I know > Julian plans to add one or two issues to that. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Sat May 26 16:53:23 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 17:53:23 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? In-Reply-To: <4FC0DB80.7000407@tor.nl> References: <001201cd3030$f9d2aef0$ed780cd0$@co.uk> <004001cd3a62$a40501d0$ec0f0570$@co.uk> <005101cd3a65$88fa5ef0$9aef1cd0$@co.uk> <4FC0DB80.7000407@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FC0FC73.2050906@tor.nl> Deleting files doesn't work yet... I am looking into that now. Op 26-5-2012 15:32, Tom Reijnders schreef: > Ron, fixed the two issues with the media and quota tab (I hope) > And comitted the changes made to the MainPreloader.swf and the > Wizard.swf for multilanguage support. > > Op 25-5-2012 12:59, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Ok cheers Tom - will watch out for updates. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom >> Reijnders >> *Sent:* 25 May 2012 11:48 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: any updated code to add to the test server? >> >> I'll have some time this weekend... >> -- >> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >> >> Ron Mitchell > > schreef: >> >> Hi all >> >> just wanted to check that I haven't missed anything - as far as I can >> tell there haven't been any changes to XOT 1.8 beta code since my >> previous message below? So all the remaining issues in the Google doc >> are still outstanding including a few key php/web site code issues >> like those with media & quota etc >> >> Are the latest changes to Xerte going to be added to the XOT svn or >> any other XOT updates? >> >> Just wanted to check/confirmed that nothing has changed with regards >> to XOT since 12th May? >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron >> Mitchell >> *Sent:* 12 May 2012 12:19 >> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] any updated code to add to the test server? >> >> Hi all >> >> just a quick note to say after today I won't have access to add any >> new code/files to the test installation until next weekend. So if >> anyone is working on any changes/updates that you wish to be tested >> during the coming week please commit to the XOT svn today. >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> BTW The Google doc is up-to-date as far as I can tell but I know >> Julian plans to add one or two issues to that. >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >> University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >> permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Sat May 26 17:30:18 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 18:30:18 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] xot language Message-ID: <4FC1051A.9090309@tor.nl> The reason that some of the things in the workspace do not work is that the .js files are not getting loaded. The file /workspaceproperties.php uses $_SESSION['toolkits_language'] to load the .js files. I think that $_SESSION['default_language'] is set in stead. I can understand that $_SESSION['toolkits_language'] would be a better name. Dave (Goodwin) did you try to change the $_SESSION['default_language']? Or is this simply a bug and needs changing? This (amongs probably others) causes the file deletion in the media and quota panel not working.... Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sat May 26 17:38:55 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 17:38:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot language In-Reply-To: <4FC1051A.9090309@tor.nl> References: <4FC1051A.9090309@tor.nl> Message-ID: <78D7F9CE-387D-4299-A26B-1702065423B9@googlemail.com> We shouldn't use default - apologies if that was me - as it might clash with moodle or some such if we try and embed On 26 May 2012, at 17:30, Tom Reijnders wrote: > The reason that some of the things in the workspace do not work is that the .js files are not getting loaded. > > The file /workspaceproperties.php uses $_SESSION['toolkits_language'] to load the .js files. > > I think that $_SESSION['default_language'] is set in stead. I can understand that $_SESSION['toolkits_language'] would be a better name. > > Dave (Goodwin) did you try to change the $_SESSION['default_language']? Or is this simply a bug and needs changing? > > This (amongs probably others) causes the file deletion in the media and quota panel not working.... > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sat May 26 19:44:17 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 19:44:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Pre 1.8 / Post 1.8 Message-ID: Hello, I've got a WordPress module which does a half decent job of displaying a http://simile.mit.edu timeline It would be relatively trival to strip the code out and making a free standing PHP class / creator. With WordPress and Drupal, you can add new modules by using a formatted text file in the modules, or plugins folder. Would it make sense to remove, or allow for submission into originaltemplatesdetails by basically looping over a folder? This way it'd be simpler to add a module. ------------------------------------- David / Tom - We could add a call to see if the SVN had updated as part of the script? Would maybe help out on that front? ------------------------------------ The bigger issue, is that if I do this (and the above makes sense even without adding new things) some stuff created in XOT isn't Xerte. My thinking was I can write a moodle extension to do it, but that's a lot of work. Thoughts? Pat From reijnders at tor.nl Sun May 27 10:27:38 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:27:38 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Pre 1.8 / Post 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FC1F38A.3080402@tor.nl> Pat, What do you mean with module? A page within a page template, or a complete different template? I don't think I understand what you want to achieve, so I am not sure I have an educated answer. With respect to automatically fetch things from svn, I do that at the moment in the translation website, but I am convinced it is NOT such a good idea for XOT itself. I think as admin of XOT website you want to be able to control the templates and even on purpose not give access to several of the available features. Tom Op 26-5-2012 20:44, Pat Lockley schreef: > Hello, > > I've got a WordPress module which does a half decent job of displaying > a http://simile.mit.edu timeline > > It would be relatively trival to strip the code out and making a free > standing PHP class / creator. > > With WordPress and Drupal, you can add new modules by using a > formatted text file in the modules, or plugins folder. > > Would it make sense to remove, or allow for submission into > originaltemplatesdetails by basically looping over a folder? This way > it'd be simpler to add a module. > > ------------------------------------- > > David / Tom - We could add a call to see if the SVN had updated as > part of the script? Would maybe help out on that front? > > ------------------------------------ > > The bigger issue, is that if I do this (and the above makes sense even > without adding new things) some stuff created in XOT isn't Xerte. > > My thinking was I can write a moodle extension to do it, but that's a > lot of work. > > Thoughts? > > Pat > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Sun May 27 10:33:11 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:33:11 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT changes needed in 1.8 Message-ID: <4FC1F4D7.8090402@tor.nl> The language variable in used XOT is not consistent. In config and index.php, the variable _SESSION['default_language'] is set, but in several places the variable _SESSION['toolkits_language'] is used (which is NOT set). This means that several of the language string variables used in javascript are not set, and thus the javascript fails. This causes the problem of not being able to delete files any more. Furthermore, if a language tree (like nl-NL) does NOT contain the definitions of all the variables there is NO fallback to English at the moment. I'll fix that later today or tomorrow. I will use _SESSION['toolkits_language'], and perhaps _SESSION['toolkits_default_language'], to be able to set the default language of the website at setup time. Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sun May 27 11:17:00 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:17:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT changes needed in 1.8 In-Reply-To: <4FC1F4D7.8090402@tor.nl> References: <4FC1F4D7.8090402@tor.nl> Message-ID: <000a01cd3bf1$dd0ff4e0$972fdea0$@co.uk> Hi Tom I've uploaded your latest modifications from XOT svn to the test install and can confirm that files uploaded via media & quota now show in the list once uploaded. So I have moved the issues on the Google doc to the fixed sheet. As you say deleting files still doesn't work but glad you've identified where the problem lies with that. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 27 May 2012 10:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT changes needed in 1.8 The language variable in used XOT is not consistent. In config and index.php, the variable _SESSION['default_language'] is set, but in several places the variable _SESSION['toolkits_language'] is used (which is NOT set). This means that several of the language string variables used in javascript are not set, and thus the javascript fails. This causes the problem of not being able to delete files any more. Furthermore, if a language tree (like nl-NL) does NOT contain the definitions of all the variables there is NO fallback to English at the moment. I'll fix that later today or tomorrow. I will use _SESSION['toolkits_language'], and perhaps _SESSION['toolkits_default_language'], to be able to set the default language of the website at setup time. Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sun May 27 11:28:19 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:28:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Pre 1.8 / Post 1.8 In-Reply-To: <4FC1F38A.3080402@tor.nl> References: <4FC1F38A.3080402@tor.nl> Message-ID: <2DB3ADF3-D66F-4D02-B2F7-5D1DA74EDEC1@googlemail.com> Well each template is a module - so something like Nottingham or RSS - basically the modules folder I wouldn't suggest fetching - just a "your files aren't the latest" display On 27 May 2012, at 10:27, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Pat, > > What do you mean with module? A page within a page template, or a complete different template? > > I don't think I understand what you want to achieve, so I am not sure I have an educated answer. > > With respect to automatically fetch things from svn, I do that at the moment in the translation website, but I am convinced it is NOT such a good idea for XOT itself. I think as admin of XOT website you want to be able to control the templates and even on purpose not give access to several of the available features. > > Tom > > Op 26-5-2012 20:44, Pat Lockley schreef: >> Hello, >> >> I've got a WordPress module which does a half decent job of displaying >> a http://simile.mit.edu timeline >> >> It would be relatively trival to strip the code out and making a free >> standing PHP class / creator. >> >> With WordPress and Drupal, you can add new modules by using a >> formatted text file in the modules, or plugins folder. >> >> Would it make sense to remove, or allow for submission into >> originaltemplatesdetails by basically looping over a folder? This way >> it'd be simpler to add a module. >> >> ------------------------------------- >> >> David / Tom - We could add a call to see if the SVN had updated as >> part of the script? Would maybe help out on that front? >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> The bigger issue, is that if I do this (and the above makes sense even >> without adding new things) some stuff created in XOT isn't Xerte. >> >> My thinking was I can write a moodle extension to do it, but that's a >> lot of work. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Pat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sun May 27 11:29:37 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:29:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT changes needed in 1.8 In-Reply-To: <4FC1F4D7.8090402@tor.nl> References: <4FC1F4D7.8090402@tor.nl> Message-ID: I think there is an if file exists in config php for loading a file could add an else? On 27 May 2012, at 10:33, Tom Reijnders wrote: > The language variable in used XOT is not consistent. In config and index.php, the variable _SESSION['default_language'] is set, but in several places the variable _SESSION['toolkits_language'] is used (which is NOT set). > > This means that several of the language string variables used in javascript are not set, and thus the javascript fails. This causes the problem of not being able to delete files any more. > > Furthermore, if a language tree (like nl-NL) does NOT contain the definitions of all the variables there is NO fallback to English at the moment. > > I'll fix that later today or tomorrow. > > I will use _SESSION['toolkits_language'], and perhaps _SESSION['toolkits_default_language'], to be able to set the default language of the website at setup time. > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From david at palepurple.co.uk Sun May 27 12:40:04 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:40:04 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Pre 1.8 / Post 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Polling svn is possible to check whether something is up to date, but I don't think automatic updates from svn is a good idea - the webserver may not have svn installed and you'd be stuck with using google code etc. And future branching / releasing may be difficult. A better approach is you have some sort of XML file on an official domain (Nottingham.ac.uk) which you could fetch and parse to find out the latest versions. Failing any of that what does wordpress do to check whether there are updates available ? Copying/using that would get my vote. David David Goodwin Pale Purple Ltd. http://www.palepurple.co.uk 0845 0046746 07792 380669 On 26 May 2012, at 20:44, Pat Lockley wrote: > Hello, > > I've got a WordPress module which does a half decent job of displaying > a http://simile.mit.edu timeline > > It would be relatively trival to strip the code out and making a free > standing PHP class / creator. > > With WordPress and Drupal, you can add new modules by using a > formatted text file in the modules, or plugins folder. > > Would it make sense to remove, or allow for submission into > originaltemplatesdetails by basically looping over a folder? This way > it'd be simpler to add a module. > > ------------------------------------- > > David / Tom - We could add a call to see if the SVN had updated as > part of the script? Would maybe help out on that front? > > ------------------------------------ > > The bigger issue, is that if I do this (and the above makes sense even > without adding new things) some stuff created in XOT isn't Xerte. > > My thinking was I can write a moodle extension to do it, but that's a > lot of work. > > Thoughts? > > Pat > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sun May 27 13:03:27 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:03:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Pre 1.8 / Post 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wordpress polls an svn. Well all Wordpress modules are hosted in an svn with a tag per version number and the trunk as the stable tag. I wouldn't poll the svn, and wasnt suggest auto updating, merely look for one file with a time stamp in. That is the most up to date - the files all have web addresses so a curl would suffice. Thoughts on the other question? On 27 May 2012, at 12:40, David Goodwin wrote: > Polling svn is possible to check whether something is up to date, but I don't think automatic updates from svn is a good idea - the webserver may not have svn installed and you'd be stuck with using google code etc. And future branching / releasing may be difficult. > > A better approach is you have some sort of XML file on an official domain (Nottingham.ac.uk) which you could fetch and parse to find out the latest versions. > > Failing any of that what does wordpress do to check whether there are updates available ? Copying/using that would get my vote. > > David > > David Goodwin > Pale Purple Ltd. > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > 0845 0046746 > 07792 380669 > > On 26 May 2012, at 20:44, Pat Lockley wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I've got a WordPress module which does a half decent job of displaying >> a http://simile.mit.edu timeline >> >> It would be relatively trival to strip the code out and making a free >> standing PHP class / creator. >> >> With WordPress and Drupal, you can add new modules by using a >> formatted text file in the modules, or plugins folder. >> >> Would it make sense to remove, or allow for submission into >> originaltemplatesdetails by basically looping over a folder? This way >> it'd be simpler to add a module. >> >> ------------------------------------- >> >> David / Tom - We could add a call to see if the SVN had updated as >> part of the script? Would maybe help out on that front? >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> The bigger issue, is that if I do this (and the above makes sense even >> without adding new things) some stuff created in XOT isn't Xerte. >> >> My thinking was I can write a moodle extension to do it, but that's a >> lot of work. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Pat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Sun May 27 20:47:30 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 21:47:30 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT changes needed in 1.8 In-Reply-To: <000a01cd3bf1$dd0ff4e0$972fdea0$@co.uk> References: <4FC1F4D7.8090402@tor.nl> <000a01cd3bf1$dd0ff4e0$972fdea0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FC284D2.80504@tor.nl> Fixed... Op 27-5-2012 12:17, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Hi Tom > I've uploaded your latest modifications from XOT svn to the test install and > can confirm that files uploaded via media& quota now show in the list once > uploaded. So I have moved the issues on the Google doc to the fixed sheet. > As you say deleting files still doesn't work but glad you've identified > where the problem lies with that. > Cheers > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 27 May 2012 10:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT changes needed in 1.8 > > The language variable in used XOT is not consistent. In config and > index.php, the variable _SESSION['default_language'] is set, but in several > places the variable _SESSION['toolkits_language'] is used (which is NOT > set). > > This means that several of the language string variables used in javascript > are not set, and thus the javascript fails. This causes the problem of not > being able to delete files any more. > > Furthermore, if a language tree (like nl-NL) does NOT contain the > definitions of all the variables there is NO fallback to English at the > moment. > > I'll fix that later today or tomorrow. > > I will use _SESSION['toolkits_language'], and perhaps > _SESSION['toolkits_default_language'], to be able to set the default > language of the website at setup time. > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sun May 27 22:13:37 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 22:13:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT changes needed in 1.8 In-Reply-To: <4FC284D2.80504@tor.nl> References: <4FC1F4D7.8090402@tor.nl> <000a01cd3bf1$dd0ff4e0$972fdea0$@co.uk> <4FC284D2.80504@tor.nl> Message-ID: <001b01cd3c4d$97543900$c5fcab00$@co.uk> Thanks Tom I uploaded all the updated files and tested deleting files via media & quota and can confirm that now works which is great. I've moved that issue to the fixed sheet in the Google doc. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 27 May 2012 20:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT changes needed in 1.8 Fixed... Op 27-5-2012 12:17, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Hi Tom > I've uploaded your latest modifications from XOT svn to the test > install and can confirm that files uploaded via media& quota now show > in the list once uploaded. So I have moved the issues on the Google doc to the fixed sheet. > As you say deleting files still doesn't work but glad you've > identified where the problem lies with that. > Cheers > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 27 May 2012 10:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT changes needed in 1.8 > > The language variable in used XOT is not consistent. In config and > index.php, the variable _SESSION['default_language'] is set, but in > several places the variable _SESSION['toolkits_language'] is used > (which is NOT set). > > This means that several of the language string variables used in > javascript are not set, and thus the javascript fails. This causes the > problem of not being able to delete files any more. > > Furthermore, if a language tree (like nl-NL) does NOT contain the > definitions of all the variables there is NO fallback to English at > the moment. > > I'll fix that later today or tomorrow. > > I will use _SESSION['toolkits_language'], and perhaps > _SESSION['toolkits_default_language'], to be able to set the default > language of the website at setup time. > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 28 09:47:33 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:47:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. In-Reply-To: <4FC0B1B2.7090107@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB1BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB202@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB33D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FBFBCA7.8010908@tor.nl> <4FC0B1B2.7090107@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB524@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> No, I thought Forms threw events, like onFormCLose,but they don't. So you'll have to do it when the value changes, and do the if (xerte) and if (pages) { set the value } logic. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 May 2012 11:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. Hmm... I don't know (in the editor) when the Wizard is closed.... Op 25-5-2012 19:18, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Thanks Tom, Kind regards Johnathan On 25 May 2012 18:08, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Jonathan, I'll have a look. If it's easy to do I will. Problem is that at the moment there is no need for the editor to access the xml file. So I need to add that in order to implement this. Like I said, if that's easy to do, I wil. Op 25-5-2012 17:41, Julian Tenney schreef: Hiya, given I am consistently not getting time to do the things I've already commited myself to, this is going to have to be something you'll have to look into yourself. But if you can do those tow ifs, then you can easily write a function in the editor to set the attribute, and you can easily call that fom the wizard. What you need to resolve is how to know if(xerte) && if (pages) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 May 2012 14:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. I would guess not. I don't know if Tom put anything in when you select to create a project of type "pages". At present there is a value set in a setup script off the entryFrame rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; which is used to tell the model files that they are not in XOT or pageTemplates. However if there is something being flagged in the "pages" type projects that would be accessible to the page scripts then this might be a better solution also for triggering the models than having something in the setup script. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 May 2012 14:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: Does the wizard know about projectType? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 May 2012 13:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. I think it could be even simpler than that. on closure of xwd form If (projectType == "pages") { access xml for name value of first element; write name value of first element into page Icon's page title property; } I wouldn't bother even checking if the name value has changed unless the overhead of doing the process was significant. Removing the check makes the process quicker and It's not taking place when viewing the project so it won't slow down the learner experience one jot. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 May 2012 13:25, Julian Tenney > wrote: Can you suggest a process? When the name attribute changes in the wizard if (xerte) and if (pages) call some function in the editor to set the property? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 May 2012 12:33 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Displaying the page title in the TOC in desktop Xerte. Having read recent postings it looks like some work is taking place on the various flash files that drive Xerte. One of the outstanding items that needs a solution is how the "name" value in a page's xml data can be made to display as the page title, both in the top left of the Xerte screen and in the TOC. I think this is resolved in XOT because the pages are created at runtime from the XML data, but in "pages" projects this is not the case. I can add a couple of lines to every model that will display the "name" value from the XML data for the page as the page title in the top left corner, but it still won't appear in the TOC. Currently desktop Xerte takes the value entered in the Page's Title property in the Page's property page as the value to display in the TOC and top left of the screen. If there was a way that Xerte, on closure of the xwd form could access the "name" value of the top element in the page's xml data, and then write this to the page's "title" property, then both the display of the page title in the TOC and in the top left corner of the screen would be resolved without any change to the models. Is this doable? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 28 09:52:55 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:52:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Pre 1.8 / Post 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB533@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Regarding auto-updates, that would be nice, but I'm unsure how best to do it right now. Also, there are two sorts of updates, a whole system upgrade, and a models / templates update: that could maybe be automated more easily. But let's leave it for now. There will be another release once we have some HTML5 stuff later this year, and I'd like to get this one finished ASAP. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 26 May 2012 19:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Pre 1.8 / Post 1.8 Hello, I've got a WordPress module which does a half decent job of displaying a http://simile.mit.edu timeline It would be relatively trival to strip the code out and making a free standing PHP class / creator. With WordPress and Drupal, you can add new modules by using a formatted text file in the modules, or plugins folder. Would it make sense to remove, or allow for submission into originaltemplatesdetails by basically looping over a folder? This way it'd be simpler to add a module. ------------------------------------- David / Tom - We could add a call to see if the SVN had updated as part of the script? Would maybe help out on that front? ------------------------------------ The bigger issue, is that if I do this (and the above makes sense even without adding new things) some stuff created in XOT isn't Xerte. My thinking was I can write a moodle extension to do it, but that's a lot of work. Thoughts? Pat _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 28 09:54:16 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:54:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT changes needed in 1.8 In-Reply-To: <001b01cd3c4d$97543900$c5fcab00$@co.uk> References: <4FC1F4D7.8090402@tor.nl> <000a01cd3bf1$dd0ff4e0$972fdea0$@co.uk> <4FC284D2.80504@tor.nl> <001b01cd3c4d$97543900$c5fcab00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB537@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Brilliant, thanks, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 27 May 2012 22:14 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT changes needed in 1.8 Thanks Tom I uploaded all the updated files and tested deleting files via media & quota and can confirm that now works which is great. I've moved that issue to the fixed sheet in the Google doc. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 27 May 2012 20:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT changes needed in 1.8 Fixed... Op 27-5-2012 12:17, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Hi Tom > I've uploaded your latest modifications from XOT svn to the test > install and can confirm that files uploaded via media& quota now show > in the list once uploaded. So I have moved the issues on the Google doc to the fixed sheet. > As you say deleting files still doesn't work but glad you've > identified where the problem lies with that. > Cheers > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 27 May 2012 10:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT changes needed in 1.8 > > The language variable in used XOT is not consistent. In config and > index.php, the variable _SESSION['default_language'] is set, but in > several places the variable _SESSION['toolkits_language'] is used > (which is NOT set). > > This means that several of the language string variables used in > javascript are not set, and thus the javascript fails. This causes the > problem of not being able to delete files any more. > > Furthermore, if a language tree (like nl-NL) does NOT contain the > definitions of all the variables there is NO fallback to English at > the moment. > > I'll fix that later today or tomorrow. > > I will use _SESSION['toolkits_language'], and perhaps > _SESSION['toolkits_default_language'], to be able to set the default > language of the website at setup time. > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 28 10:07:38 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 10:07:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Multi language wizard in XOT In-Reply-To: <4FC0B9DE.1020008@tor.nl> References: <4FC0B9DE.1020008@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB561@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> That's right, nothing will call init in XOT, so set a flashVar. Right at the top of the file is this, so you can set your translation stuff up in the else... if (mdm != undefined){ xerte = true; mdm.enableexithandler(); btnSave.label = 'Save'; btnSave.icon = 'icSave'; } else { //THIS MUST BE XOT SO DO YOUR STUFF HERE... xerte = false; //local connections for drawing tools editRec = new LocalConnection(); editRec.getData = function(){ var drawingData = tree.selectedNode.firstChild.nodeValue; editSend.send("drawRec", "initDrawing", drawingData, _root.rlovariable, 'web' ); } editRec.setDrawingData = function(xml){ setDrawingData(xml); } editRec.connect("editRec"); editSend = new LocalConnection(); btnSave.label = 'Publish'; btnSave.icon = 'icWorld'; } -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 May 2012 12:09 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Multi language wizard in XOT The multilanguage wizard is ready for Xerte Standalone, but I need to figure out how to make it work in XOT. In Xerte the current language choice is given to the wizard with a call of the editor to init, but XOT does never call init. So I assume I have to set a flashvar and make sure that somewhere the labels are set correctly (also only done in init at the moment, but that is not good enough for XOT). Julian, am I right that not calling init is the reason the wizard is not working in XOT like I expect? -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 10:24:52 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:24:52 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Multi language wizard in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB561@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4FC0B9DE.1020008@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB561@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC34464.7080507@tor.nl> It turns out that init IS called with flash variables as the arguments to init. Pat pointed me in that direction. It is right at the bottom of the wizard code... That also means that there is stuff going on in init that should have been in a if (xerte) block , but isn't now. I.e., mdm is used in init, and I think it shouldn't. I haven't changed that at the moment, because it seems to work now. Tom Op 28-5-2012 11:07, Julian Tenney schreef: > > That's right, nothing will call init in XOT, so set a flashVar. Right > at the top of the file is this, so you can set your translation stuff > up in the else... > > if (mdm != undefined){ > > xerte = true; > > mdm.enableexithandler(); > > btnSave.label = 'Save'; > > btnSave.icon = 'icSave'; > > } else { > > //THIS MUST BE XOT SO DO YOUR STUFF HERE... > > xerte = false; > > //local connections for drawing tools > > editRec = new LocalConnection(); > > editRec.getData = function(){ > > var drawingData = tree.selectedNode.firstChild.nodeValue; > > editSend.send("drawRec", "initDrawing", drawingData, > _root.rlovariable, 'web' ); > > } > > editRec.setDrawingData = function(xml){ > > setDrawingData(xml); > > } > > editRec.connect("editRec"); > > editSend = new LocalConnection(); > > btnSave.label = 'Publish'; > > btnSave.icon = 'icWorld'; > > } > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 26 May 2012 12:09 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Multi language wizard in XOT > > The multilanguage wizard is ready for Xerte Standalone, but I need to > > figure out how to make it work in XOT. > > In Xerte the current language choice is given to the wizard with a call > > of the editor to init, but XOT does never call init. > > So I assume I have to set a flashvar and make sure that somewhere the > > labels are set correctly (also only done in init at the moment, but that > > is not good enough for XOT). > > Julian, am I right that not calling init is the reason the wizard is not > > working in XOT like I expect? > > -- > > -- > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 10:27:53 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:27:53 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC34519.7030207@tor.nl> This is the standalone version, right? The French wizard translation isn't there, and the French translation of all the pages. So, they fall back to English. Only the en-GB and the nl-NL are actually populated. Op 28-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't > appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new > choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, > it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that > children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the > navigation is 'menu'. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon May 28 10:33:06 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 10:33:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I developed Advanced display for use with Pages projects not PageTemplates projects. So there is no conflict between navigation type menu as this is a feature of pageTemplate projects? I have to go out for a couple of hours, but I will pick this issue up again then if things have sorted themselves out by then. Kind regards Johnathan On 28 May 2012 10:15, Julian Tenney wrote: > Things I can see that need doing are: > > > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn?t appear > that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but > the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it?s > not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of > LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is ?menu?. > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Need to just ship it with options for supported languages: could the menu be dynamic somehow? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 10:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build This is the standalone version, right? The French wizard translation isn't there, and the French translation of all the pages. So, they fall back to English. Only the en-GB and the nl-NL are actually populated. Op 28-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 28 May 2012 10:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I developed Advanced display for use with Pages projects not PageTemplates projects. So there is no conflict between navigation type menu as this is a feature of pageTemplate projects? I have to go out for a couple of hours, but I will pick this issue up again then if things have sorted themselves out by then. Kind regards Johnathan On 28 May 2012 10:15, Julian Tenney > wrote: Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 10:47:46 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:47:46 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB5CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC34519.7030207@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB5CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC349C2.1040507@tor.nl> Yes it can, it uses the language-config now, but we could verify if the corresponding folder exists before adding the menu item. This would be in the the editor (I think). Want me to have a look at that? In XOT the languages are (at the moment) hardcoded in index.php, but we should be able to do the same thing there as well. XOT has a different problem, in that it really should have different database entries for the different languages for the descriptions of the templates etc. My suggestion would be to release what we have now as a version that has the first multi-language support. This will (hopefully) invite people to create the translations themselves through http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk and we can distribute those as language packs for the time being. Tom Op 28-5-2012 11:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK. Need to just ship it with options for supported languages: could > the menu be dynamic somehow? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > This is the standalone version, right? > > The French wizard translation isn't there, and the French translation > of all the pages. So, they fall back to English. > Only the en-GB and the nl-NL are actually populated. > > Op 28-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't > appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new > choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, > it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that > children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the > navigation is 'menu'. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 10:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Yes it can, it uses the language-config now, but we could verify if the corresponding folder exists before adding the menu item. This would be in the the editor (I think). Want me to have a look at that? In XOT the languages are (at the moment) hardcoded in index.php, but we should be able to do the same thing there as well. XOT has a different problem, in that it really should have different database entries for the different languages for the descriptions of the templates etc. My suggestion would be to release what we have now as a version that has the first multi-language support. This will (hopefully) invite people to create the translations themselves through http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk and we can distribute those as language packs for the time being. Tom Op 28-5-2012 11:33, Julian Tenney schreef: OK. Need to just ship it with options for supported languages: could the menu be dynamic somehow? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 10:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build This is the standalone version, right? The French wizard translation isn't there, and the French translation of all the pages. So, they fall back to English. Only the en-GB and the nl-NL are actually populated. Op 28-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 11:35:27 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:35:27 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and > wizard. > > I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you > mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the > right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in > the wizard's library as well > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't > appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new > choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, > it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that > children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the > navigation is 'menu'. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon May 28 11:42:27 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:42:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB5CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC34519.7030207@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB5CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Not sure what you mean by dynamic? JK On 28 May 2012 10:33, Julian Tenney wrote: > OK. Need to just ship it with options for supported languages: could the > menu be dynamic somehow? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > > > This is the standalone version, right? > > The French wizard translation isn't there, and the French translation of > all the pages. So, they fall back to English. > Only the en-GB and the nl-NL are actually populated. > > Op 28-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn?t appear > that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but > the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it?s > not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of > LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is ?menu?. > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 28 11:45:01 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:45:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> No problem. Thank you for all your contributions so far. What do we want to do with this release? Here's the thing: in October we will have some of the HTML5 support and will need to release it when the Xenith project completes. If we get much closer to October, we will be saying to users 'here's an update', cue much hassle for them updating etc, and then less than a few months later we're going to put them through the same thing - that isn't going to win us any friends if we do those releases too close to each other. There comes a point where if we don't release this build, we wait. I don't know where that point is, but it is getting nearer all the time. There really isn't much left to do, I think, and I think if we don't have this ready by the end of June, we wait. I don't want to wait because I expect the summer time is a good time for people to do upgrades etc, but maybe that isn't necessarily the case, but I think making two releases in less than 3 months is too frequent. Also, I suspect the HTML5 output will be a bigger draw than multi-language support, for most people, and I don't want to do anything that stops people engaging with the HTML5 work. What do you all think? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 11:46:35 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:46:35 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC34519.7030207@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB5CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC3578B.40200@tor.nl> Only show the languages for which a translation is actually available in the installation. Done that, it's committed, and a new beta installer is uploading now. Op 28-5-2012 12:42, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > Not sure what you mean by dynamic? > > JK > > On 28 May 2012 10:33, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > OK. Need to just ship it with options for supported languages: > could the menu be dynamic somehow? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > This is the standalone version, right? > > The French wizard translation isn't there, and the French > translation of all the pages. So, they fall back to English. > Only the en-GB and the nl-NL are actually populated. > > Op 28-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't > appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the > new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. 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Op 28-5-2012 12:42, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Not sure what you mean by dynamic? JK On 28 May 2012 10:33, Julian Tenney > wrote: OK. Need to just ship it with options for supported languages: could the menu be dynamic somehow? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 10:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build This is the standalone version, right? The French wizard translation isn't there, and the French translation of all the pages. So, they fall back to English. Only the en-GB and the nl-NL are actually populated. Op 28-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon May 28 11:50:17 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:50:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] beta zip and logged in as Message-ID: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> HI it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 11:57:06 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:57:06 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC35A02.7080006@tor.nl> Looking at the things we said on the normal list, people are waiting for 1.8, I don't think Xerte standalone is such an issue, you can even install two versions if you want to. What I really want to do is see whether you can edit an existing LO with the current Nottingham template. I don't really know how big multi-language is compared to HTML5, but I have certainly a lot of people waiting on it... We have over 350 people using our rudimentary (unmaintainable) Dutch xot translation. And that's just the people who weren't willing to wait. But I do concur, we can't wait indefinitely, and we can't have people doing to many (big) releases in a short time. On the other hand, if you hold off, you end up at some point fixing issues in the current 1.7 release... Op 28-5-2012 12:45, Julian Tenney schreef: > > No problem. Thank you for all your contributions so far. > > What do we want to do with this release? Here's the thing: in October > we will have some of the HTML5 support and will need to release it > when the Xenith project completes. If we get much closer to October, > we will be saying to users 'here's an update', cue much hassle for > them updating etc, and then less than a few months later we're going > to put them through the same thing - that isn't going to win us any > friends if we do those releases too close to each other. > > There comes a point where if we don't release this build, we wait. I > don't know where that point is, but it is getting nearer all the time. > There really isn't much left to do, I think, and I think if we don't > have this ready by the end of June, we wait. I don't want to wait > because I expect the summer time is a good time for people to do > upgrades etc, but maybe that isn't necessarily the case, but I think > making two releases in less than 3 months is too frequent. Also, I > suspect the HTML5 output will be a bigger draw than multi-language > support, for most people, and I don't want to do anything that stops > people engaging with the HTML5 work. > > What do you all think? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 11:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and > I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. > > Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and > wizard. > > I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you > mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the > right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in > the wizard's library as well > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't > appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new > choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, > it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that > children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the > navigation is 'menu'. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon May 28 12:00:19 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:00:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <4FC35A02.7080006@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC35A02.7080006@tor.nl> Message-ID: it's hard to say without knowing what the html5 change is - i'd have guessed the change is a new play.php file in the xerte module? Which isn't much of an upgrade - compared to this one. Remember it isn't just internationalisation - we've now got non-ldap auth in as well, and I'd think that's bigger than HTML5 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Looking at the things we said on the normal list, people are waiting for > 1.8, I don't think Xerte standalone is such an issue, you can even install > two versions if you want to. > > What I really want to do is see whether you can edit an existing LO with the > current Nottingham template. > > I don't really know how big multi-language is compared to HTML5, but I have > certainly a lot of people waiting on it... We have over 350 people using our > rudimentary (unmaintainable) Dutch xot translation. And that's just the > people who weren't willing to wait. > > But I do concur, we can't wait indefinitely, and we can't have people doing > to many (big) releases in a short time. > > On the other hand, if you hold off, you end up at some point fixing issues > in the current 1.7 release... > > Op 28-5-2012 12:45, Julian Tenney schreef: > > No problem. Thank you for all your contributions so far. > > > > What do we want to do with this release? Here?s the thing: in October we > will have some of the HTML5 support and will need to release it when the > Xenith project completes. If we get much closer to October, we will be > saying to users ?here?s an update?, cue much hassle for them updating etc, > and then less than a few months later we?re going to put them through the > same thing - that isn?t going to win us any friends if we do those releases > too close to each other. > > > > There comes a point where if we don?t release this build, we wait. I don?t > know where that point is, but it is getting nearer all the time. There > really isn?t much left to do, I think, and I think if we don?t have this > ready by the end of June, we wait. I don?t want to wait because I expect the > summer time is a good time for people to do upgrades etc, but maybe that > isn?t necessarily the case, but I think making two releases in less than 3 > months is too frequent. Also, I suspect the HTML5 output will be a bigger > draw than multi-language support, for most people, and I don?t want to do > anything that stops people engaging with the HTML5 work. > > > > What do you all think? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > > > I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have > spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. > > Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and > wizard. > > > > I?m still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to? would you mind > adding them to the xerte editor?s library, and adding them to the right xwd > file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard?s > library as well > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build > > > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn?t appear that > anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the > wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it?s > not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of > LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is ?menu?. > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 12:02:12 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:02:12 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as In-Reply-To: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FC35B34.30106@tor.nl> I'll fix that... Basically, look for languages/en-GB/, So in this case languages/en-GB/index.inc and add a define Use the define in index.php Op 28-5-2012 12:50, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > HI > > it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues > found with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are > ready) is to provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will > use svn) and ask people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? > Might be wishful thinking but just a thought. > > Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the > default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: > > Previously I added .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " > .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to line 429 of index.php. I suspect > the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be languified! ;-) But I'm not sure > where/how to do that? > > Cheers > > Ron > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon May 28 12:04:52 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:04:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as In-Reply-To: <4FC35B34.30106@tor.nl> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <4FC35B34.30106@tor.nl> Message-ID: I thought "logged in as" was more of an option - it's never been default in the zip before? On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I'll fix that... > > Basically, look for languages/en-GB/, So in > this case languages/en-GB/index.inc and add a define > Use the define in index.php > > Op 28-5-2012 12:50, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > HI > > it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found > with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to > provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask > people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful > thinking but just a thought. > > > > Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the > default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: > > > > Previously I added .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to > line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be > languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon May 28 12:10:56 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:10:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] google doc + page type order Message-ID: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 12:12:49 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:12:49 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <4FC35B34.30106@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FC35DB1.5070301@tor.nl> Well is was in SVN, and the proposed change is committed. If in the end decide not to have it in the zip, it should be removed from svn. Op 28-5-2012 13:04, Pat Lockley schreef: > I thought "logged in as" was more of an option - it's never been > default in the zip before? > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I'll fix that... >> >> Basically, look for languages/en-GB/, So in >> this case languages/en-GB/index.inc and add a define >> Use the define in index.php >> >> Op 28-5-2012 12:50, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> HI >> >> it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found >> with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to >> provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask >> people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful >> thinking but just a thought. >> >> >> >> Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the >> default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: >> >> >> >> Previously I added> .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to >> line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be >> languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon May 28 12:18:32 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:18:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <4FC35B34.30106@tor.nl> Message-ID: <00f001cd3cc3$9fc79980$df56cc80$@co.uk> No it hasn't and I can continue manually adding it to the installations I look after if necessary but on a system where login is required it seems like it ought to be there if only to confirm who's workspace someone is looking at and with the Moodle integration this is particularly relevant because moodle admin can use the log in as functionality to access a users workspace. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 28 May 2012 12:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as I thought "logged in as" was more of an option - it's never been default in the zip before? On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I'll fix that... > > Basically, look for languages/en-GB/, > So in this case languages/en-GB/index.inc and add a define Use the > define in index.php > > Op 28-5-2012 12:50, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > HI > > it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues > found with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are > ready) is to provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will > use svn) and ask people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? > Might be wishful thinking but just a thought. > > > > Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the > default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: > > > > Previously I added .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " > .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to line 429 of index.php. I suspect > the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon May 28 12:18:44 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:18:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have just committed to the xerte svn / pageWizards section a few updates to fix the odd bug and add PageID as an optional property to pages that were missing it. As far as the models are concerned, other than the issue of getting the "name" to populate the TOC and page title display I think they are pretty much there now. I will download the latest desktop beta and take a final look now at the pages.xwd pages.rlo files to double check things. I am not sure if anyone else has checked through my work on pages.rlo but whilst I don't think there should be any problems a second opinion is always helpful. Personally I would really like to get both XOT and Xerte 1.8 out at the same time and ASAP so that we are finally running on one set of xwds and one set of model files. Documentation to support features that are not currently documented can always follow the release. Kind regards Johnathan On 28 May 2012 11:45, Julian Tenney wrote: > No problem. Thank you for all your contributions so far. > > > > What do we want to do with this release? Here?s the thing: in October we > will have some of the HTML5 support and will need to release it when the > Xenith project completes. If we get much closer to October, we will be > saying to users ?here?s an update?, cue much hassle for them updating etc, > and then less than a few months later we?re going to put them through the > same thing - that isn?t going to win us any friends if we do those releases > too close to each other. > > > > There comes a point where if we don?t release this build, we wait. I don?t > know where that point is, but it is getting nearer all the time. There > really isn?t much left to do, I think, and I think if we don?t have this > ready by the end of June, we wait. I don?t want to wait because I expect > the summer time is a good time for people to do upgrades etc, but maybe > that isn?t necessarily the case, but I think making two releases in less > than 3 months is too frequent. Also, I suspect the HTML5 output will be a > bigger draw than multi-language support, for most people, and I don?t want > to do anything that stops people engaging with the HTML5 work. > > > > What do you all think? > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 11:35 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > > > I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I > have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. > > Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and > wizard. > > > > I?m still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to? would you mind > adding them to the xerte editor?s library, and adding them to the right xwd > file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard?s > library as well > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build > > > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn?t appear > that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but > the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it?s > not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of > LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is ?menu?. > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > No it hasn't and I can continue manually adding it to the installations I > look after if necessary but on a system where login is required it seems > like it ought to be there if only to confirm who's workspace someone is > looking at and with the Moodle integration this is particularly relevant > because moodle admin can use the log in as functionality to access a users > workspace. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 28 May 2012 12:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as > > I thought "logged in as" was more of an option - it's never been default in > the zip before? > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I'll fix that... >> >> Basically, look for languages/en-GB/, >> So in this case languages/en-GB/index.inc and add a define Use the >> define in index.php >> >> Op 28-5-2012 12:50, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> HI >> >> it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues >> found with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are >> ready) is to provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will >> use svn) and ask people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? >> Might be wishful thinking but just a thought. >> >> >> >> Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the >> default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: >> >> >> >> Previously I added > .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " >> .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to line 429 of index.php. I suspect >> the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be languified! ;-) But I'm not sure > where/how to do that? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 12:27:17 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:27:17 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. Not sure what to do about it. And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. Tom Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi all > > a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc > > Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the > issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know > you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume > you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll > watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when > those updates are notified by the feed. > > All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and > issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if > we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if > there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types > within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same > order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that > the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators > etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: > > Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? > > Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code > ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would > be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove > page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. > > Cheers > > Ron > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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The pages concerned are buttonNav.rlm columnPage.rlm title.rlm Whilst I can see the need to correct the [0] to [propPI] references I don't know anything about the other changes and I don't know who made them - it may have been whilst I was on holiday recently. Do I need to be copying the versions of these pages in the XOT svn back into the Xerte svn pageWizards section? Do the changes need testing? Kind regards Johnathan On 28 May 2012 12:10, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi all > > a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc > > > > Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues > that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed > some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT > svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any > updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the > feed. > > > > All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues > sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed > the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? > e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't > appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem > to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text > then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media > category looks like this: > > Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? > > > > Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready > for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be > especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page > types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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I'm off next week, but this week I have some time and will help where I can, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 28 May 2012 12:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build it's hard to say without knowing what the html5 change is - i'd have guessed the change is a new play.php file in the xerte module? Which isn't much of an upgrade - compared to this one. Remember it isn't just internationalisation - we've now got non-ldap auth in as well, and I'd think that's bigger than HTML5 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Looking at the things we said on the normal list, people are waiting for > 1.8, I don't think Xerte standalone is such an issue, you can even install > two versions if you want to. > > What I really want to do is see whether you can edit an existing LO with the > current Nottingham template. > > I don't really know how big multi-language is compared to HTML5, but I have > certainly a lot of people waiting on it... We have over 350 people using our > rudimentary (unmaintainable) Dutch xot translation. And that's just the > people who weren't willing to wait. > > But I do concur, we can't wait indefinitely, and we can't have people doing > to many (big) releases in a short time. > > On the other hand, if you hold off, you end up at some point fixing issues > in the current 1.7 release... > > Op 28-5-2012 12:45, Julian Tenney schreef: > > No problem. Thank you for all your contributions so far. > > > > What do we want to do with this release? Here's the thing: in October we > will have some of the HTML5 support and will need to release it when the > Xenith project completes. If we get much closer to October, we will be > saying to users 'here's an update', cue much hassle for them updating etc, > and then less than a few months later we're going to put them through the > same thing - that isn't going to win us any friends if we do those releases > too close to each other. > > > > There comes a point where if we don't release this build, we wait. I don't > know where that point is, but it is getting nearer all the time. There > really isn't much left to do, I think, and I think if we don't have this > ready by the end of June, we wait. I don't want to wait because I expect the > summer time is a good time for people to do upgrades etc, but maybe that > isn't necessarily the case, but I think making two releases in less than 3 > months is too frequent. Also, I suspect the HTML5 output will be a bigger > draw than multi-language support, for most people, and I don't want to do > anything that stops people engaging with the HTML5 work. > > > > What do you all think? > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > > > I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have > spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. > > Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and > wizard. > > > > I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to. would you mind > adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd > file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's > library as well > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build > > > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that > anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the > wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's > not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of > LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 28 13:21:08 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:21:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB78E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Can you see who committed them from the logs? I've got a feeling that: Column Page is the ability to have a page wide header above the columns, so yes copy it back to your files. ButtonNav might not have changed, because I was looking at how to make the scrolling text work in navigators (still on my to do, it's harder than I thought) Title, again, I think I did change something in there, but not sure what, but it is a simple page. Something to do with graphics maybe? Really need one clear place for changes to be made... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 28 May 2012 12:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I have just run a quick winmerge comparison between the model files in the xerte svn pageWizards\models folder and the model files in the XOT svn modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\models\ folder It appears that some changes have been made to the following files in the XOT svn (which in some cases appear to fix bugs in the pageWizards version (typically a [0] reference that should be [projPI] but there are also more substantial changes in some pages. The pages concerned are buttonNav.rlm columnPage.rlm title.rlm Whilst I can see the need to correct the [0] to [propPI] references I don't know anything about the other changes and I don't know who made them - it may have been whilst I was on holiday recently. Do I need to be copying the versions of these pages in the XOT svn back into the Xerte svn pageWizards section? Do the changes need testing? Kind regards Johnathan On 28 May 2012 12:10, Ron Mitchell > wrote: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD3CD4.BDFD2670] Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 28 13:25:15 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:25:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 12:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. Not sure what to do about it. And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. Tom Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD3CD5.515A1090] Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 13:25:22 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 14:25:22 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FC36EB2.8010308@tor.nl> I think we should do this (only once) and than agree on where the source is. As far as I am concerned, that can be pageWizards of the standalone. But we must agree on where the ONE source is. Op 28-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > I have just run a quick winmerge comparison between the model files in > the > xerte svn pageWizards\models folder > > and the model files in the > > XOT svn modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\models\ folder > > It appears that some changes have been made to the following files in > the XOT svn (which in some cases appear to fix bugs in the pageWizards > version (typically a [0] reference that should be [projPI] but there > are also more substantial changes in some pages. > > The pages concerned are > > buttonNav.rlm > columnPage.rlm > title.rlm > > Whilst I can see the need to correct the [0] to [propPI] references I > don't know anything about the other changes and I don't know who made > them - it may have been whilst I was on holiday recently. > > Do I need to be copying the versions of these pages in the XOT svn > back into the Xerte svn pageWizards section? Do the changes need testing? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 28 May 2012 12:10, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > > Hi all > > a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc > > Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the > issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know > you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume > you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? > I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test > install when those updates are notified by the feed. > > All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and > issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if > we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if > there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page > types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in > the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the > consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then > Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media > category looks like this: > > Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? > > Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code > ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think > would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add > or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. > > Cheers > > Ron > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 28 13:27:27 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:27:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <4FC36EB2.8010308@tor.nl> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36EB2.8010308@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If it's easy to run, change and fix the files in pageWizards/models (by running Xerte.exe in the runtime folder, creating a new project, then adding the types you're interested in) then that would be fine. I think that's the case. How easy is it to add a new model - it was really easy before in the templates/pageTemplates one because the xwd was right there to change along with the models... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I think we should do this (only once) and than agree on where the source is. As far as I am concerned, that can be pageWizards of the standalone. But we must agree on where the ONE source is. Op 28-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: I have just run a quick winmerge comparison between the model files in the xerte svn pageWizards\models folder and the model files in the XOT svn modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\models\ folder It appears that some changes have been made to the following files in the XOT svn (which in some cases appear to fix bugs in the pageWizards version (typically a [0] reference that should be [projPI] but there are also more substantial changes in some pages. The pages concerned are buttonNav.rlm columnPage.rlm title.rlm Whilst I can see the need to correct the [0] to [propPI] references I don't know anything about the other changes and I don't know who made them - it may have been whilst I was on holiday recently. Do I need to be copying the versions of these pages in the XOT svn back into the Xerte svn pageWizards section? Do the changes need testing? Kind regards Johnathan On 28 May 2012 12:10, Ron Mitchell > wrote: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD3CD5.A0466140] Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon May 28 13:28:43 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:28:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <4FC35B34.30106@tor.nl> <00f001cd3cc3$9fc79980$df56cc80$@co.uk> Message-ID: <014701cd3ccd$6e078040$4a1680c0$@co.uk> Why? What do you have against it showing regardless of authentication method? ;-) Most people find it very useful. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 28 May 2012 12:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as Then add an if(moodle) to the code? On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > No it hasn't and I can continue manually adding it to the > installations I look after if necessary but on a system where login is > required it seems like it ought to be there if only to confirm who's > workspace someone is looking at and with the Moodle integration this > is particularly relevant because moodle admin can use the log in as > functionality to access a users workspace. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 28 May 2012 12:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as > > I thought "logged in as" was more of an option - it's never been > default in the zip before? > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I'll fix that... >> >> Basically, look for languages/en-GB/, >> So in this case languages/en-GB/index.inc and add a define Use the >> define in index.php >> >> Op 28-5-2012 12:50, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> HI >> >> it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues >> found with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are >> ready) is to provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will >> use svn) and ask people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? >> Might be wishful thinking but just a thought. >> >> >> >> Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due >> the default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: >> >> >> >> Previously I added > .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " >> .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to line 429 of index.php. I suspect >> the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be languified! ;-) But I'm not sure > where/how to do that? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please >> do > not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of > Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained >> in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions >> expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the >> views of the > University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 13:28:52 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 14:28:52 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC36F84.9060508@tor.nl> I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd is not the name of the menu) However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I like to understand why before fixing things. Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 12:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear > in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that > in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the > xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. > > Not sure what to do about it. > > And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. > > Tom > > Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi all > > a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc > > Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the > issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know > you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume > you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll > watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when > those updates are notified by the feed. > > All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and > issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if > we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if > there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types > within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same > order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that > the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators > etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: > > Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? > > Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code > ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would > be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove > page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. > > Cheers > > Ron > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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If in the end decide not to have it in the zip, it should be removed from svn. Op 28-5-2012 13:04, Pat Lockley schreef: > I thought "logged in as" was more of an option - it's never been > default in the zip before? > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I'll fix that... >> >> Basically, look for languages/en-GB/, So in >> this case languages/en-GB/index.inc and add a define >> Use the define in index.php >> >> Op 28-5-2012 12:50, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> HI >> >> it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found >> with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to >> provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask >> people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful >> thinking but just a thought. >> >> >> >> Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the >> default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: >> >> >> >> Previously I added> .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to >> line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be >> languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd is not the name of the menu) However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I like to understand why before fixing things. Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 12:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. Not sure what to do about it. And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. Tom Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD3CD5.FE7CBA20] Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? > > I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:29 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which > strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd > is not the name of the menu) > > However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I > like to understand why before fixing things. > > > Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 12:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear > in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that > in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the > xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. > > Not sure what to do about it. > > And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. > > Tom > > Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi all > > a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc > > Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the > issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know > you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume > you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll > watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when > those updates are notified by the feed. > > All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and > issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if > we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if > there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types > within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same > order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that > the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators > etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: > > Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? > > Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code > ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would > be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove > page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. > > Cheers > > Ron > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 13:42:18 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 14:42:18 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36EB2.8010308@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC372AA.7060307@tor.nl> The xwd's are right beside them (and 1 xwd for 1 model) in the en-GB folder. The template.xwd is generated from the individual .xwds and basix.xwd. Tom Op 28-5-2012 14:27, Julian Tenney schreef: > > If it's easy to run, change and fix the files in pageWizards/models > (by running Xerte.exe in the runtime folder, creating a new project, > then adding the types you're interested in) then that would be fine. I > think that's the case. How easy is it to add a new model -- it was > really easy before in the templates/pageTemplates one because the xwd > was right there to change along with the models... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:25 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > I think we should do this (only once) and than agree on where the > source is. As far as I am concerned, that can be pageWizards of the > standalone. But we must agree on where the ONE source is. > > > > Op 28-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I have just run a quick winmerge comparison between the model files in > the > > xerte svn pageWizards\models folder > > and the model files in the > > XOT svn modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\models\ folder > > It appears that some changes have been made to the following files in > the XOT svn (which in some cases appear to fix bugs in the pageWizards > version (typically a [0] reference that should be [projPI] but there > are also more substantial changes in some pages. > > The pages concerned are > > buttonNav.rlm > > columnPage.rlm > > title.rlm > > Whilst I can see the need to correct the [0] to [propPI] references I > don't know anything about the other changes and I don't know who made > them - it may have been whilst I was on holiday recently. > > Do I need to be copying the versions of these pages in the XOT svn > back into the Xerte svn pageWizards section? Do the changes need testing? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 28 May 2012 12:10, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > > Hi all > > a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc > > Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the > issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know > you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume > you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll > watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when > those updates are notified by the feed. > > All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and > issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if > we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if > there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types > within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same > order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that > the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators > etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: > > Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? > > Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code > ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would > be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove > page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. > > Cheers > > Ron > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: not available URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon May 28 13:49:34 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:49:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <4FC35B34.30106@tor.nl> <4FC35DB1.5070301@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4A1B7C64-82A5-4F21-875A-219DEE9EA2FE@googlemail.com> I've nothing against it, its just is new - and we've never had it before. We don't have a "feature request" option anywhere so I feel adding new presentational elements without a policy of some sort On 28 May 2012, at 13:29, Julian Tenney wrote: > Could the 'logged in as'; be an icon of a user: > > J Tenney > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 28 May 2012 12:13 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as > > Well is was in SVN, and the proposed change is committed. If in the end > decide not to have it in the zip, it should be removed from svn. > > Op 28-5-2012 13:04, Pat Lockley schreef: > > I thought "logged in as" was more of an option - it's never been > > default in the zip before? > > > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> I'll fix that... > >> > >> Basically, look for languages/en-GB/, So in > >> this case languages/en-GB/index.inc and add a define > >> Use the define in index.php > >> > >> Op 28-5-2012 12:50, Ron Mitchell schreef: > >> > >> HI > >> > >> it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found > >> with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to > >> provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask > >> people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful > >> thinking but just a thought. > >> > >> > >> > >> Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the > >> default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: > >> > >> > >> > >> Previously I added >> .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to > >> line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be > >> languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > >> attachment. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 28 May 2012 13:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as I've nothing against it, its just is new - and we've never had it before. We don't have a "feature request" option anywhere so I feel adding new presentational elements without a policy of some sort On 28 May 2012, at 13:29, Julian Tenney wrote: Could the 'logged in as'; be an icon of a user: J Tenney -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 12:13 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as Well is was in SVN, and the proposed change is committed. If in the end decide not to have it in the zip, it should be removed from svn. Op 28-5-2012 13:04, Pat Lockley schreef: > I thought "logged in as" was more of an option - it's never been > default in the zip before? > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I'll fix that... >> >> Basically, look for languages/en-GB/, So in >> this case languages/en-GB/index.inc and add a define >> Use the define in index.php >> >> Op 28-5-2012 12:50, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> HI >> >> it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found >> with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to >> provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask >> people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful >> thinking but just a thought. >> >> >> >> Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the >> default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: >> >> >> >> Previously I added> .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to >> line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be >> languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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On 28 May 2012, at 14:03, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > Surely there's many many more "new" bits in 1.8 that haven't been through a feature request system either!? > > Frankly it's not worth the time debating it if nobody else thinks it's useful but Tom has already fixed the language bit of it (although I haven't uploaded that to the test install yet) and I don't really see what the fuss is about - there's surely far more important issues still to resolve. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 28 May 2012 13:50 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as > > I've nothing against it, its just is new - and we've never had it before. > > We don't have a "feature request" option anywhere so I feel adding new presentational elements without a policy of some sort > > On 28 May 2012, at 13:29, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Could the 'logged in as'; be an icon of a user: > > J Tenney > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 28 May 2012 12:13 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as > > Well is was in SVN, and the proposed change is committed. If in the end > decide not to have it in the zip, it should be removed from svn. > > Op 28-5-2012 13:04, Pat Lockley schreef: > > I thought "logged in as" was more of an option - it's never been > > default in the zip before? > > > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> I'll fix that... > >> > >> Basically, look for languages/en-GB/, So in > >> this case languages/en-GB/index.inc and add a define > >> Use the define in index.php > >> > >> Op 28-5-2012 12:50, Ron Mitchell schreef: > >> > >> HI > >> > >> it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found > >> with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to > >> provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask > >> people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful > >> thinking but just a thought. > >> > >> > >> > >> Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the > >> default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: > >> > >> > >> > >> Previously I added >> .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to > >> line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be > >> languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > >> attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 28 14:49:51 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 14:49:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <4FC370BA.5020201@tor.nl> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC36F84.9060508@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC370BA.5020201@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB858@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Let me have a look at that, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the wrong place? I didn't touch that code. Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd is not the name of the menu) However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I like to understand why before fixing things. Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 12:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. Not sure what to do about it. And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. Tom Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD3CD7.F886EE40] Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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I've moved all the issues > that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed > some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT > svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any > updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the > feed. > > > > All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues > sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed > the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? > e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't > appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem > to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text > then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media > category looks like this: > > Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? > > > > Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready > for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be > especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page > types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon May 28 16:02:26 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:02:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> Message-ID: <01bd01cd3ce2$e71bb2c0$b5531840$@co.uk> Hi Jonathan thanks for the updates and for updating the Google doc with a new issue. The svn updates are on the test install now but I haven't had time to test yet - will do so later. Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 28 May 2012 15:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I have now finished committing the changes made in the Xerte svn pageWizards section to the XOT equivalent, including building a new data.xwd file. Let me know when these files are available on your test site and I will update the demonstration pages as appropriate. Kind regards Johnathan On 28 May 2012 12:10, Ron Mitchell wrote: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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I've checked the code in for now, take a look by all means, but I'll have another look tomorrow, var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push(i); } } sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' ); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n]; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the wrong place? I didn't touch that code. Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd is not the name of the menu) However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I like to understand why before fixing things. Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 12:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. Not sure what to do about it. And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. Tom Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD3CF2.72C7EEB0] Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 21:43:01 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:43:01 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB98A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC36F84.9060508@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC370BA.5020201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB98A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC3E355.80903@tor.nl> Julian, It's because you push i (the newnode name) on the sortArray. A bit surprising that the sortOn is working, as there is no attribute menuItem to sort on. Then you insert the menu's in the order of there newNodes names, and that causes some anomalies. Also, the orginal code had a provision for that case when the menuItem attribute was not set, and that will not work with your original code. Don't know whether that will ever happen, but I changed that part too: var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push({menuItem:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem, node:i}); } else { sortArray.push({menuItem:i, node:i}); } } sortArray.sortOn("menuItem", Array.CASEINSENSITIVE); // dump array //var str=""; //for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ // i = sortArray[n].node; // str += i + ", " + wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem + "\n"; //} mdm.Prompt(str); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n].node; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } Op 28-5-2012 17:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, and I've spent all afternoon > trying to figure it out: this approach, building an array of ovbjects > first,t then sorting them, then looping over it to drive the menu > building more or less works, but a few items don't appear in a-z > order, and I have no idea why not. I've checked the code > in for now, take a look by all means, but I'll have another look tomorrow, > > *var sortArray = new Array();* > > * for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){* > > ** > > * if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){* > > * sortArray.push(i);* > > * }* > > * }* > > * sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' );* > > ** > > * for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){* > > ** > > * i = sortArray[n];* > > //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ > > > insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem > != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > > } else { > > > insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != > undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > > } > > } > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:34 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I > understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the > wrong place? I didn't touch that code. > > Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? > > I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:29 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which > strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd > is not the name of the menu) > > However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I > like to understand why before fixing things. > > > Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 12:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear > in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that > in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the > xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. > > Not sure what to do about it. > > And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. > > Tom > > Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi all > > a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc > > Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the > issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know > you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume > you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll > watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when > those updates are notified by the feed. > > All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and > issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if > we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if > there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types > within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same > order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that > the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators > etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: > > Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? > > Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code > ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would > be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove > page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. > > Cheers > > Ron > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon May 28 22:02:03 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 23:02:03 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <4FC3E355.80903@tor.nl> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC36F84.9060508@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC370BA.5020201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB98A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC3E355.80903@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FC3E7CB.3030209@tor.nl> Also, the Interactivity menu is too long now (it goes over the preview) Put the preview (menuHint) on the other side? Op 28-5-2012 22:43, Tom Reijnders schreef: > Julian, > > It's because you push i (the newnode name) on the sortArray. A bit > surprising that the sortOn is working, as there is no attribute > menuItem to sort on. > > Then you insert the menu's in the order of there newNodes names, and > that causes some anomalies. > > Also, the orginal code had a provision for that case when the menuItem > attribute was not set, and that will not work with your original code. > Don't know whether that will ever happen, but I changed that part too: > var sortArray = new Array(); > for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ > > sortArray.push({menuItem:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem, node:i}); > } > else > { > sortArray.push({menuItem:i, node:i}); > } > } > sortArray.sortOn("menuItem", Array.CASEINSENSITIVE); > // dump array > //var str=""; > //for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ > // i = sortArray[n].node; > // str += i + ", " + wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem + "\n"; > //} > mdm.Prompt(str); > for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ > i = sortArray[n].node; > //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ > > insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem > != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > } else { > > insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != > undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > } > } > > Op 28-5-2012 17:53, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, and I've spent all afternoon >> trying to figure it out: this approach, building an array of ovbjects >> first,t then sorting them, then looping over it to drive the menu >> building more or less works, but a few items don't appear in a-z >> order, and I have no idea why not. I've checked the >> code in for now, take a look by all means, but I'll have another look >> tomorrow, >> >> *var sortArray = new Array();* >> >> * for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){* >> >> ** >> >> * if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){* >> >> * sortArray.push(i);* >> >> * }* >> >> * }* >> >> * sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' );* >> >> ** >> >> * for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){* >> >> ** >> >> * i = sortArray[n];* >> >> //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ >> >> if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ >> >> >> insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem >> != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, >> icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: >> wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: >> wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); >> >> } else { >> >> >> insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != >> undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, >> icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: >> wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: >> wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); >> >> } >> >> } >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom >> Reijnders >> *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:34 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order >> >> I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I >> understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the >> wrong place? I didn't touch that code. >> >> Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? >> >> I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom >> Reijnders >> *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:29 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order >> >> I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which >> strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd >> is not the name of the menu) >> >> However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I >> like to understand why before fixing things. >> >> >> Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom >> Reijnders >> *Sent:* 28 May 2012 12:27 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order >> >> The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes >> appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) >> does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to >> order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I >> would expect. >> >> Not sure what to do about it. >> >> And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. >> >> Tom >> >> Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Hi all >> >> a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc >> >> Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the >> issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know >> you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume >> you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? >> I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install >> when those updates are notified by the feed. >> >> All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and >> issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if >> we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if >> there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types >> within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same >> order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that >> the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators >> etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: >> >> Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? >> >> Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code >> ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would >> be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or >> remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. 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(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon May 28 22:31:00 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:31:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xot language In-Reply-To: <265A5B2B-CCB9-4A81-9D80-E0E3F026B539@palepurple.co.uk> References: <4FC1051A.9090309@tor.nl> <265A5B2B-CCB9-4A81-9D80-E0E3F026B539@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <529AA553-A0C6-4430-AB3A-FC933450AD8D@googlemail.com> Not to put the standards hat on again but should we use xerte_toolkits_site as a prefix for all XOT stuff? On 28 May 2012, at 22:28, David Goodwin wrote: >> >> The file /workspaceproperties.php uses $_SESSION['toolkits_language'] to load the .js files. >> >> I think that $_SESSION['default_language'] is set in stead. I can understand that $_SESSION['toolkits_language'] would be a better name. >> >> Dave (Goodwin) did you try to change the $_SESSION['default_language']? Or is this simply a bug and needs changing? >> > > Yes, I did note this at the time in SVN & the mailing list (I believe). > > Feel free to rename it to toolkits_language; I didn't know what the session key should have been, so chose my own. > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Mon May 28 22:51:02 2012 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (Thomas Rochford) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:51:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Successful install of XoT 1.7 + AD authentication at Lowestoft but ..... Message-ID: <01d101cd3d1b$fa6c3820$ef44a860$@jiscadvance.ac.uk> Good Evening Everyone, I spent all day at the College, because there were a number of new issues encountered so I thought it worth documenting 1) They wanted to run it under Server 2008 R2 with XAMPP to provide management. XAMPP 1.7.7. (and 1.8.0 by the look of it) will not run properly under this operating system because of problems with the compiler versions used. This prevents Apache running. The MS Workaround suggested is to download an older version of the distributable C++ support libraries but they were reluctant to do this as the server, although brand new at present, was intended to host a large number of Apps within the Institution, so this ruled out both Apache and XAMPP 2) We then thought to try it under IIS but there were some issues with the Microsoft distribution of PHP 5.3.* 3) In the meantime they had run up a virtual W7 server so we used this with XAMPP using the older version - xampp-win32-1.7.3. There were some minor issues with misconfigured paths for the PEAR extensions but that did not seem to stop things working. 4) I made the changes to login_library.php described in my earlier posting but there were still some problems as follows (a) The 'Top Level OU' was configured in AD as college.ac.uk this would not work at all so we configured a bind DN without an OU, but three DC entries, viz.: DC=college, DC=ac, DC=uk. (b) Although we were now able to bind, the lack of an OU meant that searches were failing so we configured three base DNs for three separate servers with DCs set to the user areas for Staff, Students and special cases. This then worked satisfactorily. I created the 'multiple' LDAP hosts by inserting extra rows in the LDAP table manually. It's clear that there is unlikely to be any general uniformity in the structure of AD's or the naming conventions used. The College is considering inserting a new top Level OU - e.g. AuthUsers - but as the present installation seems to be working smoothly - at least from the server point of view, I do not think this to be a high priority. Again this makes the case, to my mind, for keeping as much as possible in the MySQL tables which seem to be reasonably flexible and can probably handle a range of cases more easily than could be done within the installation/management code itself. I will try to follow this up with a rather more detailed posting of the final working filters and DNs, so this really just needs to act as a holder and a marker for future development, as I notice that Dave (?) has done quite a lot with the new OO Login scripts for XoT 1.8. They are going to try installing this alongside the XoT 1.7 install with a separate Database. Kindest regards, Thomas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 09:45:49 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:45:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <4FC3E7CB.3030209@tor.nl> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC36F84.9060508@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC370BA.5020201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB98A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC3E355.80903@tor.nl> <4FC3E7CB.3030209@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBAA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Good idea, or put it next to the menu, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 22:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order Also, the Interactivity menu is too long now (it goes over the preview) Put the preview (menuHint) on the other side? [cid:image001.png at 01CD3D7F.D4422CE0] Op 28-5-2012 22:43, Tom Reijnders schreef: Julian, It's because you push i (the newnode name) on the sortArray. A bit surprising that the sortOn is working, as there is no attribute menuItem to sort on. Then you insert the menu's in the order of there newNodes names, and that causes some anomalies. Also, the orginal code had a provision for that case when the menuItem attribute was not set, and that will not work with your original code. Don't know whether that will ever happen, but I changed that part too: var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push({menuItem:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem, node:i}); } else { sortArray.push({menuItem:i, node:i}); } } sortArray.sortOn("menuItem", Array.CASEINSENSITIVE); // dump array //var str=""; //for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ // i = sortArray[n].node; // str += i + ", " + wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem + "\n"; //} mdm.Prompt(str); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n].node; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } Op 28-5-2012 17:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, and I've spent all afternoon trying to figure it out: this approach, building an array of ovbjects first,t then sorting them, then looping over it to drive the menu building more or less works, but a few items don't appear in a-z order, and I have no idea why not. I've checked the code in for now, take a look by all means, but I'll have another look tomorrow, var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push(i); } } sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' ); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n]; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the wrong place? I didn't touch that code. Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd is not the name of the menu) However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I like to understand why before fixing things. Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 12:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. Not sure what to do about it. And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. Tom Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: [cid:image002.jpg at 01CD3D7F.D4422CE0] Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? 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There were some minor issues with misconfigured paths for the PEAR extensions but that did not seem to stop things working. > 4) I made the changes to login_library.php described in my earlier posting but there were still some problems as follows > (a) The ?Top Level OU? was configured in AD as college.ac.uk this would not work at all so we configured a bind DN without an OU, but three DC entries, viz.: DC=college, DC=ac, DC=uk. > (b) Although we were now able to bind, the lack of an OU meant that searches were failing so we configured three base DNs for three separate servers with DCs set to the user areas for Staff, Students and special cases. This then worked satisfactorily. I created the ?multiple? LDAP hosts by inserting extra rows in the LDAP table manually. > > It?s clear that there is unlikely to be any general uniformity in the structure of AD?s or the naming conventions used. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 10:10:44 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:10:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBAA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC36F84.9060508@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC370BA.5020201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB98A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC3E355.80903@tor.nl> <4FC3E7CB.3030209@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBAA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBAFB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Done that so it positions next to the menu, nice one, [cid:image003.png at 01CD3D83.4F81A900] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 09:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order Good idea, or put it next to the menu, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 22:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order Also, the Interactivity menu is too long now (it goes over the preview) Put the preview (menuHint) on the other side? [cid:image004.png at 01CD3D83.4F81A900] Op 28-5-2012 22:43, Tom Reijnders schreef: Julian, It's because you push i (the newnode name) on the sortArray. A bit surprising that the sortOn is working, as there is no attribute menuItem to sort on. Then you insert the menu's in the order of there newNodes names, and that causes some anomalies. Also, the orginal code had a provision for that case when the menuItem attribute was not set, and that will not work with your original code. Don't know whether that will ever happen, but I changed that part too: var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push({menuItem:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem, node:i}); } else { sortArray.push({menuItem:i, node:i}); } } sortArray.sortOn("menuItem", Array.CASEINSENSITIVE); // dump array //var str=""; //for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ // i = sortArray[n].node; // str += i + ", " + wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem + "\n"; //} mdm.Prompt(str); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n].node; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } Op 28-5-2012 17:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, and I've spent all afternoon trying to figure it out: this approach, building an array of ovbjects first,t then sorting them, then looping over it to drive the menu building more or less works, but a few items don't appear in a-z order, and I have no idea why not. I've checked the code in for now, take a look by all means, but I'll have another look tomorrow, var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push(i); } } sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' ); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n]; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the wrong place? I didn't touch that code. Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd is not the name of the menu) However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I like to understand why before fixing things. Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 12:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. Not sure what to do about it. And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. Tom Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: [cid:image005.jpg at 01CD3D83.4F81A900] Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: image005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: image005.jpg URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 10:11:01 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:11:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <4FC3E355.80903@tor.nl> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC36F84.9060508@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC370BA.5020201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB98A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC3E355.80903@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBAFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Thanks, that's added too, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 21:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order Julian, It's because you push i (the newnode name) on the sortArray. A bit surprising that the sortOn is working, as there is no attribute menuItem to sort on. Then you insert the menu's in the order of there newNodes names, and that causes some anomalies. Also, the orginal code had a provision for that case when the menuItem attribute was not set, and that will not work with your original code. Don't know whether that will ever happen, but I changed that part too: var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push({menuItem:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem, node:i}); } else { sortArray.push({menuItem:i, node:i}); } } sortArray.sortOn("menuItem", Array.CASEINSENSITIVE); // dump array //var str=""; //for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ // i = sortArray[n].node; // str += i + ", " + wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem + "\n"; //} mdm.Prompt(str); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n].node; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } Op 28-5-2012 17:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, and I've spent all afternoon trying to figure it out: this approach, building an array of ovbjects first,t then sorting them, then looping over it to drive the menu building more or less works, but a few items don't appear in a-z order, and I have no idea why not. I've checked the code in for now, take a look by all means, but I'll have another look tomorrow, var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push(i); } } sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' ); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n]; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the wrong place? I didn't touch that code. Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd is not the name of the menu) However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I like to understand why before fixing things. Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 12:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. Not sure what to do about it. And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. Tom Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD3D83.5948DD50] Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 29 10:22:55 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:22:55 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBAFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC36F84.9060508@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC370BA.5020201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB98A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC3E355.80903@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBAFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC4956F.3040308@tor.nl> Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. Did you commit the wizard.swf to xot as well, than we can cross out that problem from the google doc... :-) Tom Op 29-5-2012 11:11, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Thanks, that's added too, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 21:43 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > Julian, > > It's because you push i (the newnode name) on the sortArray. A bit > surprising that the sortOn is working, as there is no attribute > menuItem to sort on. > > Then you insert the menu's in the order of there newNodes names, and > that causes some anomalies. > > Also, the orginal code had a provision for that case when the menuItem > attribute was not set, and that will not work with your original code. > Don't know whether that will ever happen, but I changed that part too: > var sortArray = new Array(); > for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ > > sortArray.push({menuItem:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem, node:i}); > } > else > { > sortArray.push({menuItem:i, node:i}); > } > } > sortArray.sortOn("menuItem", Array.CASEINSENSITIVE); > // dump array > //var str=""; > //for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ > // i = sortArray[n].node; > // str += i + ", " + wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem + "\n"; > //} > mdm.Prompt(str); > for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ > i = sortArray[n].node; > //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ > > insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem > != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > } else { > > insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != > undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > } > } > > Op 28-5-2012 17:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, and I've spent all afternoon > trying to figure it out: this approach, building an array of ovbjects > first,t then sorting them, then looping over it to drive the menu > building more or less works, but a few items don't appear in a-z > order, and I have no idea why not. I've checked the code > in for now, take a look by all means, but I'll have another look tomorrow, > > *var sortArray = new Array();* > > * for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){* > > ** > > * if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){* > > * sortArray.push(i);* > > * }* > > * }* > > * sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' );* > > ** > > * for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){* > > ** > > * i = sortArray[n];* > > //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ > > > insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem > != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > > } else { > > > insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != > undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > > } > > } > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:34 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I > understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the > wrong place? I didn't touch that code. > > Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? > > I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:29 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which > strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd > is not the name of the menu) > > However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I > like to understand why before fixing things. > > > Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 12:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear > in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that > in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the > xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. > > Not sure what to do about it. > > And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. > > Tom > > Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi all > > a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc > > Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the > issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know > you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume > you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll > watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when > those updates are notified by the feed. > > All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and > issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if > we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if > there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types > within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same > order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that > the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators > etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: > > Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? > > Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code > ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would > be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove > page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. > > Cheers > > Ron > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 10:24:25 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:24:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <4FC4956F.3040308@tor.nl> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC36F84.9060508@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC370BA.5020201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB98A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC3E355.80903@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBAFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4956F.3040308@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB26@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Just committed now, so you might need to rebuild your exe. Thanks, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 10:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. Did you commit the wizard.swf to xot as well, than we can cross out that problem from the google doc... :-) Tom Op 29-5-2012 11:11, Julian Tenney schreef: Thanks, that's added too, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 21:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order Julian, It's because you push i (the newnode name) on the sortArray. A bit surprising that the sortOn is working, as there is no attribute menuItem to sort on. Then you insert the menu's in the order of there newNodes names, and that causes some anomalies. Also, the orginal code had a provision for that case when the menuItem attribute was not set, and that will not work with your original code. Don't know whether that will ever happen, but I changed that part too: var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push({menuItem:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem, node:i}); } else { sortArray.push({menuItem:i, node:i}); } } sortArray.sortOn("menuItem", Array.CASEINSENSITIVE); // dump array //var str=""; //for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ // i = sortArray[n].node; // str += i + ", " + wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem + "\n"; //} mdm.Prompt(str); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n].node; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } Op 28-5-2012 17:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, and I've spent all afternoon trying to figure it out: this approach, building an array of ovbjects first,t then sorting them, then looping over it to drive the menu building more or less works, but a few items don't appear in a-z order, and I have no idea why not. I've checked the code in for now, take a look by all means, but I'll have another look tomorrow, var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push(i); } } sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' ); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n]; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the wrong place? I didn't touch that code. Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd is not the name of the menu) However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I like to understand why before fixing things. Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 12:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. Not sure what to do about it. And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. Tom Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD3D85.38A7D400] Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 29 10:30:24 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:30:24 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB26@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC36F84.9060508@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC370BA.5020201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB98A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC3E355.80903@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBAFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4956F.3040308@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB26@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC49730.6050603@tor.nl> Done, and re-uploading now... Op 29-5-2012 11:24, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Just committed now, so you might need to rebuild your exe. > > Thanks, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 10:23 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. > > Did you commit the wizard.swf to xot as well, than we can cross out > that problem from the google doc... :-) > > Tom > > Op 29-5-2012 11:11, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Thanks, that's added too, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 21:43 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > Julian, > > It's because you push i (the newnode name) on the sortArray. A bit > surprising that the sortOn is working, as there is no attribute > menuItem to sort on. > > Then you insert the menu's in the order of there newNodes names, and > that causes some anomalies. > > Also, the orginal code had a provision for that case when the menuItem > attribute was not set, and that will not work with your original code. > Don't know whether that will ever happen, but I changed that part too: > var sortArray = new Array(); > for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ > > sortArray.push({menuItem:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem, node:i}); > } > else > { > sortArray.push({menuItem:i, node:i}); > } > } > sortArray.sortOn("menuItem", Array.CASEINSENSITIVE); > // dump array > //var str=""; > //for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ > // i = sortArray[n].node; > // str += i + ", " + wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem + "\n"; > //} > mdm.Prompt(str); > for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ > i = sortArray[n].node; > //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ > > insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem > != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > } else { > > insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != > undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > } > } > > Op 28-5-2012 17:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, and I've spent all afternoon > trying to figure it out: this approach, building an array of ovbjects > first,t then sorting them, then looping over it to drive the menu > building more or less works, but a few items don't appear in a-z > order, and I have no idea why not. I've checked the code > in for now, take a look by all means, but I'll have another look tomorrow, > > *var sortArray = new Array();* > > * for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){* > > ** > > * if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){* > > * sortArray.push(i);* > > * }* > > * }* > > * sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' );* > > ** > > * for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){* > > ** > > * i = sortArray[n];* > > //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ > > > insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem > != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > > } else { > > > insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != > undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > > } > > } > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:34 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I > understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the > wrong place? I didn't touch that code. > > Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? > > I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:29 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which > strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd > is not the name of the menu) > > However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I > like to understand why before fixing things. > > > Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 12:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear > in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that > in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the > xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. > > Not sure what to do about it. > > And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. > > Tom > > Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi all > > a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc > > Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the > issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know > you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume > you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll > watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when > those updates are notified by the feed. > > All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and > issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if > we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if > there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types > within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same > order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that > the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators > etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: > > Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? > > Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code > ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would > be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove > page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. > > Cheers > > Ron > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 10:51:59 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:51:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 10:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. Did you commit the wizard.swf to xot as well, than we can cross out that problem from the google doc... :-) Tom Op 29-5-2012 11:11, Julian Tenney schreef: Thanks, that's added too, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 21:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order Julian, It's because you push i (the newnode name) on the sortArray. A bit surprising that the sortOn is working, as there is no attribute menuItem to sort on. Then you insert the menu's in the order of there newNodes names, and that causes some anomalies. Also, the orginal code had a provision for that case when the menuItem attribute was not set, and that will not work with your original code. Don't know whether that will ever happen, but I changed that part too: var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push({menuItem:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem, node:i}); } else { sortArray.push({menuItem:i, node:i}); } } sortArray.sortOn("menuItem", Array.CASEINSENSITIVE); // dump array //var str=""; //for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ // i = sortArray[n].node; // str += i + ", " + wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem + "\n"; //} mdm.Prompt(str); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n].node; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObj ect.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } Op 28-5-2012 17:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, and I've spent all afternoon trying to figure it out: this approach, building an array of ovbjects first,t then sorting them, then looping over it to drive the menu building more or less works, but a few items don't appear in a-z order, and I have no idea why not. I've checked the code in for now, take a look by all means, but I'll have another look tomorrow, var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push(i); } } sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' ); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n]; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObj ect.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the wrong place? I didn't touch that code. Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd is not the name of the menu) However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I like to understand why before fixing things. Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 12:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. Not sure what to do about it. And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. Tom Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 10:54:26 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:54:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order In-Reply-To: <007901cd3d81$0aab0cb0$20012610$@co.uk> References: <00de01cd3cc2$902d1cd0$b0875670$@co.uk> <4FC36115.60202@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC36F84.9060508@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB7AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC370BA.5020201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB98A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC3E355.80903@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBAFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4956F.3040308@tor.nl> <007901cd3d81$0aab0cb0$20012610$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB7A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I got some when I updated this morning, not sure when they were from, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 10:54 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order Haven't seen any XOT updates today? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 10:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. Did you commit the wizard.swf to xot as well, than we can cross out that problem from the google doc... :-) Tom Op 29-5-2012 11:11, Julian Tenney schreef: Thanks, that's added too, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 21:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order Julian, It's because you push i (the newnode name) on the sortArray. A bit surprising that the sortOn is working, as there is no attribute menuItem to sort on. Then you insert the menu's in the order of there newNodes names, and that causes some anomalies. Also, the orginal code had a provision for that case when the menuItem attribute was not set, and that will not work with your original code. Don't know whether that will ever happen, but I changed that part too: var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push({menuItem:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem, node:i}); } else { sortArray.push({menuItem:i, node:i}); } } sortArray.sortOn("menuItem", Array.CASEINSENSITIVE); // dump array //var str=""; //for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ // i = sortArray[n].node; // str += i + ", " + wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem + "\n"; //} mdm.Prompt(str); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n].node; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } Op 28-5-2012 17:53, Julian Tenney schreef: Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, and I've spent all afternoon trying to figure it out: this approach, building an array of ovbjects first,t then sorting them, then looping over it to drive the menu building more or less works, but a few items don't appear in a-z order, and I have no idea why not. I've checked the code in for now, take a look by all means, but I'll have another look tomorrow, var sortArray = new Array(); for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ sortArray.push(i); } } sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' ); for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ i = sortArray[n]; //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } else { insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); } } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I understand the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the wrong place? I didn't touch that code. Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: You're building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? I don't know either, but they do come out reversed. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 13:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd is not the name of the menu) However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I like to understand why before fixing things. Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 12:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. Not sure what to do about it. And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. Tom Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi all a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the feed. All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media category looks like this: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD3D89.69E0B380] Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Any changes to the xwds can then be made to the xwds in the local Xerte beta installation. The beta installation can be used to build a new template.xwd file and then the changed xwds and template.xwd file can be committed to the Xerte svn and toolkits svn. I can't handle the adding of icons to Xerte's flash files but once you have that set up I can change the xwds if you prefer, if you let me know which icon goes with which xwd. Kind regards Johnathan On 29 May 2012 10:51, Julian Tenney wrote: > I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all > that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and > the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID > used in the XWDs. It shouldn?t take more than ten minutes (if you know > where you?re looking for .xwd?s etc). This ought to be a task for whoever > is adding the new models. > > > > Do you want me to do it? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 11:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > > > I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I > have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. > > Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and > wizard. > > > > I?m still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to? would you mind > adding them to the xerte editor?s library, and adding them to the right xwd > file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard?s > library as well > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build > > > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn?t appear > that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but > the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it?s > not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of > LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is ?menu?. > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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JK On 29 May 2012 10:54, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Haven't seen any XOT updates today? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 10:23 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > > > Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. > > Did you commit the wizard.swf to xot as well, than we can cross out that > problem from the google doc... :-) > > Tom > > Op 29-5-2012 11:11, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Thanks, that?s added too, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 21:43 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > > > Julian, > > It's because you push i (the newnode name) on the sortArray. A bit > surprising that the sortOn is working, as there is no attribute menuItem to > sort on. > > Then you insert the menu's in the order of there newNodes names, and that > causes some anomalies. > > Also, the orginal code had a provision for that case when the menuItem > attribute was not set, and that will not work with your original code. > Don't know whether that will ever happen, but I changed that part too: > var sortArray = new Array(); > for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){ > sortArray.push({menuItem:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem, > node:i}); > } > else > { > sortArray.push({menuItem:i, node:i}); > } > } > sortArray.sortOn("menuItem", Array.CASEINSENSITIVE); > // dump array > //var str=""; > //for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ > // i = sortArray[n].node; > // str += i + ", " + wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem + "\n"; > //} > mdm.Prompt(str); > for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){ > i = sortArray[n].node; > //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ > > insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem > != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > } else { > > insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != > undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > } > } > > Op 28-5-2012 17:53, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Not sure what I?m doing wrong here, and I?ve spent all afternoon trying to > figure it out: this approach, building an array of ovbjects first,t then > sorting them, then looping over it to drive the menu building more or less > works, but a few items don?t appear in a-z order, and I have no idea why > not. I?ve checked the code in for now, take a look by all > means, but I?ll have another look tomorrow, > > > > > > *var sortArray = new Array();* > > * for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes[0]){* > > * * > > * if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != undefined){* > > * sortArray.push(i);* > > * }* > > * }* > > * sortArray.sortOn('menuItem' );* > > * * > > * for (var n = 0; n < sortArray.length; n++){* > > * * > > * i = sortArray[n];* > > > > //for (var i in wizard.nfoObject.wizard[nodeType].newNodes){ > > if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu != undefined){ > > > insertMenu[wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menu].addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem > != undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > > } else { > > > insertMenu.addMenuItem({label:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem != > undefined ? wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].menuItem : i, > icon:wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].icon, data: i, thumb: > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].thumb, hint: wizard.nfoObject.wizard[i].hint}); > > } > > } > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:34 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > > > I don't do that, you did in the wizard (at least that's how I understand > the code, makeInsertMenu(nodeType)) or am I looking in the wrong place? I > didn't touch that code. > > Op 28-5-2012 14:30, Julian Tenney schreef: > > You?re building it off the order of the nodes in the xwd? > > > > I don?t know either, but they do come out reversed. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 13:29 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > > > I thought I did that (or at least in the order of the newNodes, which > strictly speaking is not alphabetical but close (the name of the xwd is not > the name of the menu) > > However, even doing that, the meu comes out in reverse order, and I like > to understand why before fixing things. > > > Op 28-5-2012 14:25, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The insert menu is fine like that, can we sort the child menus to be A-Z? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 12:27 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: google doc + page type order > > > > The page order is determined by the order in which the newNodes appear in > the data.xwd (template.xwd). The builder (at the moment) does that in the > order it encounters the files on disk. I tried to order on the xwds but > somehow the menu is still not ordered the way I would expect. > > Not sure what to do about it. > > And yes the builder is ready, we use it all the time. > > Tom > > Op 28-5-2012 13:10, Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi all > > a quick update re the issues listed in the Google doc > > > > Jonathan - thanks for updating the Google doc. I've moved all the issues > that you've indicated as closed to the fixed sheet. I know you've committed > some updated files to the Xerte svn so I assume you'll be updating the XOT > svn with the same files at some point? I'll watch the rss feed for any > updates and update the test install when those updates are notified by the > feed. > > > > All - at the moment there are 4 issues remaining in the tests and issues > sheet. I think most of these are minor but can't recall if we've discussed > the order of page types in each category and if there's a change needed? > e.g. at the moment the order of page types within each category doesn't > appear to be alphabetical or in the same order as previous versions. I seem > to recall the consensus was that the category order is fine now e.g. Text > then Media then Navigators etc but for instance at the moment the media > category looks like this: > > Which doesn't appear to be alphabetical but can it be? > > > > Also a related question for Tom I guess - is your xwd builder code ready > for this release? Would be great to test that and I think would be > especially useful if we can document how admins might add or remove page > types and then re-run the builder direct in XOT. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14692 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 29 11:23:31 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:23:31 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: > all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to > use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating > linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten > minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought > to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. > > Do you want me to do it? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 11:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and > I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. > > Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and > wizard. > > I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you > mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the > right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in > the wizard's library as well > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't > appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new > choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, > it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that > children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the > navigation is 'menu'. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 11:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > HI**** > > it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found > with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to > provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask > people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful > thinking but just a thought.**** > > ** ** > > Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the > default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following:**** > > ** ** > > Previously I added .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to > line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be > languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that?**** > > ** ** > > Cheers**** > > Ron**** > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Tom Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the > icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple > of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it > will be easy to see if any remain to be done. > > Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 11:24 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), > I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. > > We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. > > Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: > all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to > use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating > linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten > minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought > to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. > > Do you want me to do it? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 11:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and > I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. > > Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and > wizard. > > I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you > mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the > right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in > the wizard's library as well > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't > appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new > choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, > it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that > children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the > navigation is 'menu'. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Kindest Regards, Thomas. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: HI it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful thinking but just a thought. Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: Previously I added to line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 12:44:01 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:44:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> 'tis done. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 12:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Right. I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you do that? Tom Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it will be easy to see if any remain to be done. Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 11:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 12:47:43 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:47:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> On the spreadsheet are just a few issues listed yesterday by Jonathan. Those aside, are we there? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 12:44 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as that's line 113 of ldap.php of the current code. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford Sent: 29 May 2012 12:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as Hi everyone, Just before we jump, what is the status of the LDAP/AD Authentication at the moment, please. I know it appears to have been re-written, but if it still includes $ldap_search_attr = array('firstname' => 'givenName', 'lastname' => 'sn'); Then those of us supporting its use in Institutions using AD may have quite a lot of work putting this right before it can be tested. Kindest Regards, Thomas. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: HI it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful thinking but just a thought. Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: Previously I added to line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 29 12:50:18 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:50:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> Message-ID: <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the test install now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 12:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Right. I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you do that? Tom Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it will be easy to see if any remain to be done. Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 11:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to. would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 12:52:28 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:52:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I just saw Jonathan's comments on the spreadsheet from yesterday: I just fixed the issue with the greyed out language check box, but haven't touched the other ones, which are translation related. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 12:50 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the test install now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 12:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Right. I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you do that? Tom Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it will be easy to see if any remain to be done. Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 11:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 29 13:04:31 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:04:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <012001cd3d93$37c756b0$a7560410$@co.uk> That's in place on the test install now too but can't test right now - will do so later unless someone beats me to it! ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 12:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just saw Jonathan's comments on the spreadsheet from yesterday: I just fixed the issue with the greyed out language check box, but haven't touched the other ones, which are translation related. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 12:50 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the test install now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 12:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Right. I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you do that? Tom Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it will be easy to see if any remain to be done. Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 11:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to. would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 13:05:30 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:05:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <012001cd3d93$37c756b0$a7560410$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012001cd3d93$37c756b0$a7560410$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCBA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I just got quite excited and logged into the test install: the icons are still missing from the new pages in the menu, so not all the latest things have made it through just yet. I can't believe we're nearly there! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 13:05 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build That's in place on the test install now too but can't test right now - will do so later unless someone beats me to it! ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 12:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just saw Jonathan's comments on the spreadsheet from yesterday: I just fixed the issue with the greyed out language check box, but haven't touched the other ones, which are translation related. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 12:50 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the test install now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 12:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Right. I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you do that? Tom Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it will be easy to see if any remain to be done. Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 11:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 29 13:21:05 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:21:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCBA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012001cd3d93$37c756b0$a7560410$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCBA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <013a01cd3d95$88085000$9818f000$@co.uk> The new icons were showing for me? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 13:06 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just got quite excited and logged into the test install: the icons are still missing from the new pages in the menu, so not all the latest things have made it through just yet. I can't believe we're nearly there! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 13:05 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build That's in place on the test install now too but can't test right now - will do so later unless someone beats me to it! ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 12:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just saw Jonathan's comments on the spreadsheet from yesterday: I just fixed the issue with the greyed out language check box, but haven't touched the other ones, which are translation related. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 12:50 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the test install now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 12:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Right. I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you do that? Tom Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it will be easy to see if any remain to be done. Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 11:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to. would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 13:36:46 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:36:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <013a01cd3d95$88085000$9818f000$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012001cd3d93$37c756b0$a7560410$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCBA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013a01cd3d95$88085000$9818f000$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> They do! Scenario connector I wrong, should use icConScenario. I just fixed that in scenario xwd so that will find its way through. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 13:21 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build The new icons were showing for me? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 13:06 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just got quite excited and logged into the test install: the icons are still missing from the new pages in the menu, so not all the latest things have made it through just yet. I can't believe we're nearly there! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 13:05 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build That's in place on the test install now too but can't test right now - will do so later unless someone beats me to it! ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 12:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just saw Jonathan's comments on the spreadsheet from yesterday: I just fixed the issue with the greyed out language check box, but haven't touched the other ones, which are translation related. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 12:50 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the test install now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 12:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Right. I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you do that? Tom Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it will be easy to see if any remain to be done. Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 11:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 13:38:32 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:38:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012001cd3d93$37c756b0$a7560410$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCBA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013a01cd3d95$88085000$9818f000$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Can confirm Jonathan's notes of undefined tooltips for optional properties, and the string undefined instead of 'New ' before the sub page in the menu on the form. Issues for Tom I think? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 13:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build They do! Scenario connector I wrong, should use icConScenario. I just fixed that in scenario xwd so that will find its way through. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 13:21 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build The new icons were showing for me? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 13:06 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just got quite excited and logged into the test install: the icons are still missing from the new pages in the menu, so not all the latest things have made it through just yet. I can't believe we're nearly there! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 13:05 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build That's in place on the test install now too but can't test right now - will do so later unless someone beats me to it! ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 12:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just saw Jonathan's comments on the spreadsheet from yesterday: I just fixed the issue with the greyed out language check box, but haven't touched the other ones, which are translation related. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 12:50 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the test install now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 12:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Right. I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you do that? Tom Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it will be easy to see if any remain to be done. Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 11:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 29 13:40:26 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:40:26 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012001cd3d93$37c756b0$a7560410$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCBA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013a01cd3d95$88085000$9818f000$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC4C3BA.7000503@tor.nl> I'll have a look at that... Op 29-5-2012 14:38, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Can confirm Jonathan's notes of undefined tooltips for optional > properties, and the string undefined instead of 'New ' before the sub > page in the menu on the form. Issues for Tom I think? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 13:37 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > They do! Scenario connector I wrong, should use icConScenario. I just > fixed that in scenario xwd so that will find its way through. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 13:21 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > The new icons were showing for me? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 13:06 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I just got quite excited and logged into the test install: the icons > are still missing from the new pages in the menu, so not all the > latest things have made it through just yet. > > I can't believe we're nearly there! > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 13:05 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > That's in place on the test install now too but can't test right now - > will do so later unless someone beats me to it! ;-) > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 12:52 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I just saw Jonathan's comments on the spreadsheet from yesterday: I > just fixed the issue with the greyed out language check box, but > haven't touched the other ones, which are translation related. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 12:50 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the > test install now. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 12:42 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > Right. > > I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and > committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. > Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. > > What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you > do that? > > Tom > > Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the > icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple > of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it > will be easy to see if any remain to be done. > > Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 11:24 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), > I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. > > We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. > > Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: > all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to > use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating > linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten > minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought > to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. > > Do you want me to do it? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 11:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and > I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. > > Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and > wizard. > > I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you > mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the > right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in > the wizard's library as well > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't > appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new > choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, > it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that > children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the > navigation is 'menu'. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 29 13:42:36 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:42:36 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012001cd3d93$37c756b0$a7560410$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCBA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013a01cd3d95$88085000$9818f000$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC4C43C.5000803@tor.nl> Not committed yet? Whe I update, I get a new wizard (because of the greyed out checkbox I think) but nothing else. Op 29-5-2012 14:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > They do! Scenario connector I wrong, should use icConScenario. I just > fixed that in scenario xwd so that will find its way through. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 13:21 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > The new icons were showing for me? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 13:06 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I just got quite excited and logged into the test install: the icons > are still missing from the new pages in the menu, so not all the > latest things have made it through just yet. > > I can't believe we're nearly there! > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 13:05 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > That's in place on the test install now too but can't test right now - > will do so later unless someone beats me to it! ;-) > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 12:52 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I just saw Jonathan's comments on the spreadsheet from yesterday: I > just fixed the issue with the greyed out language check box, but > haven't touched the other ones, which are translation related. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 12:50 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the > test install now. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 12:42 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > Right. > > I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and > committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. > Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. > > What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you > do that? > > Tom > > Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the > icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple > of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it > will be easy to see if any remain to be done. > > Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 11:24 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), > I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. > > We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. > > Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: > all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to > use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating > linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten > minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought > to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. > > Do you want me to do it? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 11:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and > I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. > > Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and > wizard. > > I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you > mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the > right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in > the wizard's library as well > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't > appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new > choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, > it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that > children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the > navigation is 'menu'. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 13:48:20 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:48:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <4FC4C43C.5000803@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012001cd3d93$37c756b0$a7560410$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCBA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013a01cd3d95$88085000$9818f000$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4C43C.5000803@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBD13@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Sorry, it is now. Commits fail on our network sometimes, I get a screen of red errors from tortoise and have to try again... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 13:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Not committed yet? Whe I update, I get a new wizard (because of the greyed out checkbox I think) but nothing else. Op 29-5-2012 14:36, Julian Tenney schreef: They do! Scenario connector I wrong, should use icConScenario. I just fixed that in scenario xwd so that will find its way through. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 13:21 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build The new icons were showing for me? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 13:06 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just got quite excited and logged into the test install: the icons are still missing from the new pages in the menu, so not all the latest things have made it through just yet. I can't believe we're nearly there! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 13:05 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build That's in place on the test install now too but can't test right now - will do so later unless someone beats me to it! ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 12:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just saw Jonathan's comments on the spreadsheet from yesterday: I just fixed the issue with the greyed out language check box, but haven't touched the other ones, which are translation related. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 12:50 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the test install now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 12:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Right. I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you do that? Tom Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it will be easy to see if any remain to be done. Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 11:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 29 14:12:55 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:12:55 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBD13@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012001cd3d93$37c756b0$a7560410$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCBA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013a01cd3d95$88085000$9818f000$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4C43C.5000803@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBD13@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FC4CB57.8080503@tor.nl> Rebuilt template.xwd for xerte and data.xwd for XOT. Those are committed. Uploading xerte-beta.exe as we speak. Op 29-5-2012 14:48, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sorry, it is now. Commits fail on our network sometimes, I get a > screen of red errors from tortoise and have to try again... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 13:43 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > Not committed yet? Whe I update, I get a new wizard (because of the > greyed out checkbox I think) but nothing else. > > Op 29-5-2012 14:36, Julian Tenney schreef: > > They do! Scenario connector I wrong, should use icConScenario. I just > fixed that in scenario xwd so that will find its way through. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 13:21 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > The new icons were showing for me? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 13:06 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I just got quite excited and logged into the test install: the icons > are still missing from the new pages in the menu, so not all the > latest things have made it through just yet. > > I can't believe we're nearly there! > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 13:05 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > That's in place on the test install now too but can't test right now - > will do so later unless someone beats me to it! ;-) > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 12:52 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I just saw Jonathan's comments on the spreadsheet from yesterday: I > just fixed the issue with the greyed out language check box, but > haven't touched the other ones, which are translation related. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron > Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 12:50 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the > test install now. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 12:42 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > Right. > > I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and > committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. > Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. > > What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you > do that? > > Tom > > Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the > icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple > of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it > will be easy to see if any remain to be done. > > Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 11:24 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), > I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. > > We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. > > Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: > all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to > use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating > linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten > minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought > to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. > > Do you want me to do it? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 11:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build > > I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and > I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. > > Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and > wizard. > > I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you > mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the > right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in > the wizard's library as well > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 28 May 2012 10:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build > > Things I can see that need doing are: > > Icons > > When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't > appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new > choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? > > Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, > it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that > children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the > navigation is 'menu'. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 15:07:26 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:07:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build In-Reply-To: <4FC4CB57.8080503@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB57F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCB62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC354EF.7060805@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBB72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4A3A3.1010006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC22@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4B61A.3000004@tor.nl> <010c01cd3d91$3a4f24f0$aeed6ed0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC99@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <012001cd3d93$37c756b0$a7560410$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCBA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <013a01cd3d95$88085000$9818f000$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBCF3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4C43C.5000803@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBD13@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FC4CB57.8080503@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBDBB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The number of times I've built Xerte, found a bug, fixed it, rebuilt xerte, found another bug, fixed it... ;-) When I was flying solo, I found it much easier to incrementally update the build after every change: for standalone xerte, this is easy, but for toolkits maybe a little more difficult. It does avoid this mammoth task at the end of a development iteration though, maybe it's something we can do better - I know, this time there is a much bigger set of changes than previously, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 14:13 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Rebuilt template.xwd for xerte and data.xwd for XOT. Those are committed. Uploading xerte-beta.exe as we speak. Op 29-5-2012 14:48, Julian Tenney schreef: Sorry, it is now. Commits fail on our network sometimes, I get a screen of red errors from tortoise and have to try again... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 13:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Not committed yet? Whe I update, I get a new wizard (because of the greyed out checkbox I think) but nothing else. Op 29-5-2012 14:36, Julian Tenney schreef: They do! Scenario connector I wrong, should use icConScenario. I just fixed that in scenario xwd so that will find its way through. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 13:21 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build The new icons were showing for me? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 13:06 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just got quite excited and logged into the test install: the icons are still missing from the new pages in the menu, so not all the latest things have made it through just yet. I can't believe we're nearly there! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 13:05 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build That's in place on the test install now too but can't test right now - will do so later unless someone beats me to it! ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 May 2012 12:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I just saw Jonathan's comments on the spreadsheet from yesterday: I just fixed the issue with the greyed out language check box, but haven't touched the other ones, which are translation related. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 29 May 2012 12:50 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Looks like Julian has done that and all updates are in place on the test install now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 12:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build Right. I've rebuilt the template.xwd for Xerte standalone, and updated and committed that, and the data.xwd of the Nottingham template in xot. Uploading new xerte-beta.exe as we speak. What needs to be done, is update the wizard in xot. Julian, will you do that? Tom Op 29-5-2012 13:01, Julian Tenney schreef: I've added the icons to wizard and editor's libraries, and added the icon references to all the xwd files in en-GB. I also added a couple of the others that were missing: I think that's all of them but it will be easy to see if any remain to be done. Those changes should just ripple through to the various places now, right? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 11:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build If you add the icons to the libraries (of the editor and the wizard), I'll take care of the rest today or tomorrow. We should make a list of all the icons in the library and their ID's. Op 29-5-2012 11:51, Julian Tenney schreef: I can probably do this, but I think you guys know where the files are: all that needs to happen is the xwds need to identify which icon to use, and the wizard and editor need to have library items creating linked to the ID used in the XWDs. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes (if you know where you're looking for .xwd's etc). This ought to be a task for whoever is adding the new models. Do you want me to do it? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 28 May 2012 11:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: LAtest Xerte Build I can do that, but not this week. It's really quite a lot of work and I have spend already some significant time on xerte this weekend. Op 28-5-2012 12:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Attached are some new icons currently missing from the pages menu and wizard. I'm still unsure which xwd I should be adding these to... would you mind adding them to the xerte editor's library, and adding them to the right xwd file for toolkits please? They will need adding as icons in the wizard's library as well From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 28 May 2012 10:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] LAtest Xerte Build Things I can see that need doing are: Icons When I used the menu to change the language to french, it didn't appear that anything happened (should we confirm to the user the new choice?), but the wizard, when I ran it, was in English? Advanced Display. Does this have to be the first child of a LO? Also, it's not a page of content: this might break things that assume that children of LO are pages, particularly in situations where the navigation is 'menu'. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Johnathan On 29 May 2012 12:47, Julian Tenney wrote: > On the spreadsheet are just a few issues listed yesterday by Jonathan. > Those aside, are we there? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 12:44 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as > > > > that's line 113 of ldap.php of the current code. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Rochford > *Sent:* 29 May 2012 12:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Just before we jump, what is the status of the LDAP/AD Authentication at > the moment, please. I know it appears to have been re-written, but if it > still includes > > > > $ldap_search_attr = array('firstname' => 'givenName', 'lastname' => 'sn'); > > > > Then those of us supporting its use in Institutions using AD may have > quite a lot of work putting this right before it can be tested. > > > > Kindest Regards, Thomas. > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > > HI > > it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found > with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to > provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask > people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful > thinking but just a thought. > > > > Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the > default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: > > > > Previously I added .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to > line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be > languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue May 29 17:34:43 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:34:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I just committed the removal of eureka_username in ldap.php I can see the line Thomas mentioned - and I notice if you bind without a password it doesn't use the search array at all? Maybe it's optional? On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > Those aside, are we there? > > Are we talking XOT only or including desktop Xerte as well? > > The biggest single thing I can think of outstanding on the desktop is the > issue of populating the TOC (which should also solve the page Title display > as well) > > Kind regards (and getting a little excited - are we really this close?) > > Johnathan > > > On 29 May 2012 12:47, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> On the spreadsheet are just a few issues listed yesterday by Jonathan. >> Those aside, are we there? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 29 May 2012 12:44 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as >> >> >> >> that's line 113 of ldap.php of the current code. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas >> Rochford >> Sent: 29 May 2012 12:30 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> Just before we jump, what is the status of the LDAP/AD Authentication at >> the moment, please. I know it appears to have been re-written, but if it >> still includes >> >> >> >> $ldap_search_attr = array('firstname' => 'givenName', 'lastname' => 'sn'); >> >> >> >> Then those of us supporting its use in Institutions using AD may have >> quite a lot of work putting this right before it can be tested. >> >> >> >> Kindest Regards, Thomas. >> >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Ron Mitchell >> wrote: >> >> HI >> >> it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found >> with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to >> provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask >> people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful >> thinking but just a thought. >> >> >> >> Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the >> default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: >> >> >> >> Previously I added > .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to >> line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be >> languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> KIndest Regards, >> >> Thomas Rochford >> >> ================================================ >> >> e:learning advisor, technology & infrastructure, JISC RSC Eastern >> >> mob: 07500 669002 >> >> eml: Thomas.Rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk >> >> web: http://www.rsc-eastern.ac.uk/technical >> >> skype: cambridge.serendipity >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue May 29 17:35:16 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:35:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as In-Reply-To: <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> Message-ID: has anyone got the time to try the current trunk against an LDAP? On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > that's line 113 of ldap.php of the current code. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas > Rochford > Sent: 29 May 2012 12:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Just before we jump, what is the status of the LDAP/AD Authentication at the > moment, please. I know it appears to have been re-written, but if it still > includes > > > > $ldap_search_attr = array('firstname' => 'givenName', 'lastname' => 'sn'); > > > > Then those of us supporting its use in Institutions using AD may have quite > a lot of work putting this right before it can be tested. > > > > Kindest Regards, Thomas. > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > > HI > > it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues found > with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are ready) is to > provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will use svn) and ask > people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? Might be wishful > thinking but just a thought. > > > > Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the > default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: > > > > Previously I added .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to > line 429 of index.php. I suspect the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be > languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > -- > KIndest Regards, > > Thomas Rochford > > ================================================ > > e:learning advisor, technology & infrastructure, JISC RSC Eastern > > mob: 07500 669002 > > eml: Thomas.Rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk > > web: http://www.rsc-eastern.ac.uk/technical > > skype: cambridge.serendipity > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue May 29 17:56:55 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:56:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> Message-ID: <020e01cd3dbc$0fdc3c50$2f94b4f0$@co.uk> Unfortunately the Techdis server we're using for the test install doesn't have LDAP available. I can probably test the ldap code later in the week but probably not for a couple of days. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 May 2012 17:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as has anyone got the time to try the current trunk against an LDAP? On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > that's line 113 of ldap.php of the current code. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas > Rochford > Sent: 29 May 2012 12:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Just before we jump, what is the status of the LDAP/AD Authentication > at the moment, please. I know it appears to have been re-written, but > if it still includes > > > > $ldap_search_attr = array('firstname' => 'givenName', 'lastname' => > 'sn'); > > > > Then those of us supporting its use in Institutions using AD may have > quite a lot of work putting this right before it can be tested. > > > > Kindest Regards, Thomas. > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Ron Mitchell > > wrote: > > HI > > it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues > found with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are > ready) is to provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will > use svn) and ask people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? > Might be wishful thinking but just a thought. > > > > Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the > default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: > > > > Previously I added .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " > .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to line 429 of index.php. I suspect > the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be languified! ;-) But I'm not sure where/how to do that? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > -- > KIndest Regards, > > Thomas Rochford > > ================================================ > > e:learning advisor, technology & infrastructure, JISC RSC Eastern > > mob: 07500 669002 > > eml: Thomas.Rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk > > web: http://www.rsc-eastern.ac.uk/technical > > skype: cambridge.serendipity > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 29 18:27:22 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:27:22 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as In-Reply-To: <020e01cd3dbc$0fdc3c50$2f94b4f0$@co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <020e01cd3dbc$0fdc3c50$2f94b4f0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FC506FA.4000109@tor.nl> I'll give it a try Op 29-5-2012 18:56, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Unfortunately the Techdis server we're using for the test install doesn't > have LDAP available. I can probably test the ldap code later in the week but > probably not for a couple of days. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 29 May 2012 17:35 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as > > has anyone got the time to try the current trunk against an LDAP? > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> that's line 113 of ldap.php of the current code. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas >> Rochford >> Sent: 29 May 2012 12:30 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> Just before we jump, what is the status of the LDAP/AD Authentication >> at the moment, please. I know it appears to have been re-written, but >> if it still includes >> >> >> >> $ldap_search_attr = array('firstname' => 'givenName', 'lastname' => >> 'sn'); >> >> >> >> Then those of us supporting its use in Institutions using AD may have >> quite a lot of work putting this right before it can be tested. >> >> >> >> Kindest Regards, Thomas. >> >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Ron Mitchell >> >> wrote: >> >> HI >> >> it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues >> found with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are >> ready) is to provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will >> use svn) and ask people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? >> Might be wishful thinking but just a thought. >> >> >> >> Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the >> default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: >> >> >> >> Previously I added> .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " >> .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> to line 429 of index.php. I suspect >> the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be languified! ;-) But I'm not sure > where/how to do that? >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue May 29 18:32:03 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:32:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as In-Reply-To: <4FC506FA.4000109@tor.nl> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <020e01cd3dbc$0fdc3c50$2f94b4f0$@co.uk> <4FC506FA.4000109@tor.nl> Message-ID: Did my message make sense? On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I'll give it a try > > Op 29-5-2012 18:56, Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Unfortunately the Techdis server we're using for the test install doesn't >> have LDAP available. I can probably test the ldap code later in the week >> but >> probably not for a couple of days. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 29 May 2012 17:35 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as >> >> has anyone got the time to try the current trunk against an LDAP? >> >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Ron Mitchell >> wrote: >>> >>> that's line 113 of ldap.php of the current code. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas >>> Rochford >>> Sent: 29 May 2012 12:30 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: beta zip and logged in as >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> Just before we jump, what is the status of the LDAP/AD Authentication >>> at the moment, please. I know it appears to have been re-written, but >>> if it still includes >>> >>> >>> >>> $ldap_search_attr = array('firstname' => ?'givenName', 'lastname' => >>> 'sn'); >>> >>> >>> >>> Then those of us supporting its use in Institutions using AD may have >>> quite a lot of work putting this right before it can be tested. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kindest Regards, Thomas. >>> >>> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Ron Mitchell >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> HI >>> >>> it seems we're getting close to having resolved most of the issues >>> found with the 1.8 beta and I wonder if a next step (when we are >>> ready) is to provide a link to a beta zip (not too many people will >>> use svn) and ask people on the main mailing list to test and feedback? >>> Might be wishful thinking but just a thought. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also I noticed Tom had made some changes to index.php no doubt due the >>> default language setting etc and it reminded me about the following: >>> >>> >>> >>> Previously I added>> .$_SESSION['toolkits_firstname'] ." " >>> .$_SESSION['toolkits_surname'];?> ?to line 429 of index.php. I suspect >>> the 'Logged in as' bit needs to be languified! ;-) But I'm not sure >> >> where/how to do that? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >>> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >> >> University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> >> computer system: >>> >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> >> legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>> this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by >>> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >> >> University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> >> computer system: >>> >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> >> legislation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> KIndest Regards, >>> >>> Thomas Rochford >>> >>> ================================================ >>> >>> e:learning advisor, technology& ?infrastructure, JISC RSC Eastern >>> >>> mob: 07500 669002 >>> >>> eml: Thomas.Rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk >>> >>> web: http://www.rsc-eastern.ac.uk/technical >>> >>> skype: cambridge.serendipity >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>> this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by >>> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >> >> University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> >> computer system: >>> >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> >> legislation. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue May 29 19:05:24 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:05:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> On 29 May 2012, at 17:34, Pat Lockley wrote: > I just committed the removal of eureka_username in ldap.php > > I can see the line Thomas mentioned - and I notice if you bind without > a password it doesn't use the search array at all? > I had rewritten the ldap login stuff - but it's stuck in an uncommitted state along with my other authorisation changes?. There was certainly duplication between the anonymous and non-anonymous bind. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue May 29 19:09:36 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:09:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: a lot of it, but i never got what bit did what. All i've done is rename eureka_username to xot_username added some info to the error messages fixed the comment return value (v. important :) ) On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM, David Goodwin wrote: > > On 29 May 2012, at 17:34, Pat Lockley wrote: > >> I just committed the removal of eureka_username in ldap.php >> >> I can see the line Thomas mentioned - and I notice if you bind without >> a password it doesn't use the search array at all? >> > > I had rewritten the ldap login stuff - but it's stuck in an uncommitted state along with my other authorisation changes?. > > There was certainly duplication between the anonymous and non-anonymous bind. > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 29 19:10:19 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 20:10:19 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late..... Op 29-5-2012 20:05, David Goodwin schreef: > On 29 May 2012, at 17:34, Pat Lockley wrote: > >> I just committed the removal of eureka_username in ldap.php >> >> I can see the line Thomas mentioned - and I notice if you bind without >> a password it doesn't use the search array at all? >> > I had rewritten the ldap login stuff - but it's stuck in an uncommitted state along with my other authorisation changes?. > > There was certainly duplication between the anonymous and non-anonymous bind. > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue May 29 20:05:20 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 20:05:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> Message-ID: <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late?.. Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested? so it's irrelevant. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 29 20:36:07 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:36:07 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <4FC52527.6000805@tor.nl> I can test it if you want. But it's up to you. You know the state it is now. Tom Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late?.. > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested? so it's irrelevant. > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Tue May 29 20:39:09 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:39:09 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> Ron, About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? Thanks! Tom Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late?.. > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested? so it's irrelevant. > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue May 29 22:39:13 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 22:39:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl>, <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> >Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested? I think we are approaching a 'code freeze' point. We need to get the things in that are going in and leave (for now at least) the things that aren't: only you guys know where you are up to on the various things you each have going on. Getting the main Xerte standlone exe built is a great milestone, but we do still need to properly test the 'gold' toolkits code. There is the issue of timings, discussed yesterday. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin [david at palepurple.co.uk] Sent: 29 May 2012 20:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late?.. Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested? so it's irrelevant. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 30 00:26:15 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 00:26:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> Message-ID: <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> Hi Tom sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( The two language file updates are in place now. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues Ron, About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? Thanks! Tom Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so it's irrelevant. > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application > Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Wed May 30 00:43:53 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 00:43:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl>, <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 29 May 2012, at 22:39, Julian Tenney wrote: >> Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested? > > I think we are approaching a 'code freeze' point. We need to get the things in that are going in and leave (for now at least) the things that aren't: only you guys know where you are up to on the various things you each have going on. Getting the main Xerte standlone exe built is a great milestone, but we do still need to properly test the 'gold' toolkits code. There is the issue of timings, discussed yesterday. Hi, Find attached a patch which takes me up to where I got to with changing the authentication stuff. Namely : 1. There are some changes to the LDAP module - this partly conflicts with Pat's renaming of $eureka_username. I think I removed the (what seemed) duplication of code between an anonymous bind and authenticated bind - but I've not had a chance to test it, so I could have screwed stuff up. 2. Each 'module' (Static, Db, Ldap etc) should now have a 'getForm()' method (they're not all complete) which is responsible for returning a Zend_Form object. The intention is that when going through the /setup process, the user is firstly given a drop down allowing them to choose which authentication agent they wish to use. After choosing one (e.g. Xerte_Authentication_Db), the setup wizard would render the output from Xerte_Authentication_Db::getForm() (i.e. the output from calling $form->render(new Zend_View())). Upon submitting this, and the validators passing, the database would have persisted in it the appropriate config bits which would be used from then on. 3. When authenticating an end user, the Xerte_Authentication_Db adaptor would read from the Db it's options (from step #2 above) and know how to behave. 4. My current stumbling block is knowing where to draw the line - namely how much flexibility should I put into each of the authentication adaptors and their self-configuration - clearly it would be possible for the Db adaptor to specify a remote database name, database table, database fields, hashing scheme, salting of passwords and so on - which would make it quite complex. Likewise, the Ldap adaptor could allow the end user to specify all field names, and so on... 5. There's a little bit more than needs doing to Xerte_Authentication_Abstract so that it handles the POSTing of the Zend_Form object, and storing that into the database, but not much. zcat patch.txt | patch -p0 within the 'trunk' directory should work if anyone wishes to see what I've done and perhaps finish it. It looks increasingly unlikely that I will be able to work on this within the next fortnight. thanks David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install everything is working. -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. Ron Mitchell schreef: Hi Tom sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( The two language file updates are in place now. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues Ron, About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? Thanks! Tom Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so it's irrelevant. > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application > Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > >_____________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 30 May 2012 00:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) On 29 May 2012, at 22:39, Julian Tenney wrote: >> Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested? > > I think we are approaching a 'code freeze' point. We need to get the things in that are going in and leave (for now at least) the things that aren't: only you guys know where you are up to on the various things you each have going on. Getting the main Xerte standlone exe built is a great milestone, but we do still need to properly test the 'gold' toolkits code. There is the issue of timings, discussed yesterday. Hi, Find attached a patch which takes me up to where I got to with changing the authentication stuff. Namely : 1. There are some changes to the LDAP module - this partly conflicts with Pat's renaming of $eureka_username. I think I removed the (what seemed) duplication of code between an anonymous bind and authenticated bind - but I've not had a chance to test it, so I could have screwed stuff up. 2. Each 'module' (Static, Db, Ldap etc) should now have a 'getForm()' method (they're not all complete) which is responsible for returning a Zend_Form object. The intention is that when going through the /setup process, the user is firstly given a drop down allowing them to choose which authentication agent they wish to use. After choosing one (e.g. Xerte_Authentication_Db), the setup wizard would render the output from Xerte_Authentication_Db::getForm() (i.e. the output from calling $form->render(new Zend_View())). Upon submitting this, and the validators passing, the database would have persisted in it the appropriate config bits which would be used from then on. 3. When authenticating an end user, the Xerte_Authentication_Db adaptor would read from the Db it's options (from step #2 above) and know how to behave. 4. My current stumbling block is knowing where to draw the line - namely how much flexibility should I put into each of the authentication adaptors and their self-configuration - clearly it would be possible for the Db adaptor to specify a remote database name, database table, database fields, hashing scheme, salting of passwords and so on - which would make it quite complex. Likewise, the Ldap adaptor could allow the end user to specify all field names, and so on... 5. There's a little bit more than needs doing to Xerte_Authentication_Abstract so that it handles the POSTing of the Zend_Form object, and storing that into the database, but not much. zcat patch.txt | patch -p0 within the 'trunk' directory should work if anyone wishes to see what I've done and perhaps finish it. It looks increasingly unlikely that I will be able to work on this within the next fortnight. thanks David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don?t know if anyone but you has any idea whether this is a patch we should apply, a patch for information, a patch you intend to keep working and will apply, a patch you want us to work on or what? > Tom expressed an interest in seeing it, I believe. Hopefully I wasn't wearing rose tinted glasses and reading what he wrote in too optimistic a manner. Failing any review from anyone else, then perhaps someone could give me some guidance with regards to how configurable I should try and make 'stuff' and it'll just end up waiting until e.g. Xerte 1.9 thanks, David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 30 09:40:53 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:40:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) In-Reply-To: <8508B912-7EAE-4368-B4E8-788D55808BD7@palepurple.co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl>, <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC036@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8508B912-7EAE-4368-B4E8-788D55808BD7@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC04F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think I take form all these discussions that this is extra stuff you're working on, and the currently committed code works, and is an improvement on 1.7? If so, then yes, we can wait if need be. It won't be too long until another release anyway. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 30 May 2012 09:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) On 30 May 2012, at 09:34, Julian Tenney wrote: I don't really know what your intention is here. I don't know if anyone but you has any idea whether this is a patch we should apply, a patch for information, a patch you intend to keep working and will apply, a patch you want us to work on or what? Tom expressed an interest in seeing it, I believe. Hopefully I wasn't wearing rose tinted glasses and reading what he wrote in too optimistic a manner. Failing any review from anyone else, then perhaps someone could give me some guidance with regards to how configurable I should try and make 'stuff' and it'll just end up waiting until e.g. Xerte 1.9 thanks, David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, David Goodwin wrote: > > On 30 May 2012, at 09:34, Julian Tenney wrote: > > I don?t really know what your intention is here. I don?t know if anyone but > you has any idea whether this is a patch we should apply, a patch for > information, a patch you intend to keep working and will apply, a patch you > want us to work on or what? > > > > > Tom expressed an interest in seeing it, I believe. ?Hopefully I wasn't > wearing rose tinted glasses and reading what he wrote in too optimistic a > manner. > > Failing any review from anyone else, then perhaps someone could give me some > guidance with regards to how configurable I should try and make 'stuff' and > it'll just end up waiting until e.g. Xerte 1.9 > > > thanks, > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From reijnders at tor.nl Wed May 30 09:56:27 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:56:27 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: =?utf-8?q?Outstanding_Issues_=28Configurable=09authentication?= =?utf-8?q?=09-=09incomplete_patch_attached=29?= In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC04F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl>, <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC036@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8508B912-7EAE-4368-B4E8-788D55808BD7@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC04F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <289d10e4-21a5-4a23-b588-0f8488be1703@email.android.com> I wanted to see if I could finish this in a short time. Improving this (authentication) is really important.... It is one of the most discussed topic in the mailinglist. Can't promise anything, but will have a look. -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. Julian Tenney schreef: I think I take form all these discussions that this is extra stuff you?re working on, and the currently committed code works, and is an improvement on 1.7? If so, then yes, we can wait if need be. It won?t be too long until another release anyway. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 30 May 2012 09:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) On 30 May 2012, at 09:34, Julian Tenney wrote: I don?t really know what your intention is here. I don?t know if anyone but you has any idea whether this is a patch we should apply, a patch for information, a patch you intend to keep working and will apply, a patch you want us to work on or what? Tom expressed an interest in seeing it, I believe. Hopefully I wasn't wearing rose tinted glasses and reading what he wrote in too optimistic a manner. Failing any review from anyone else, then perhaps someone could give me some guidance with regards to how configurable I should try and make 'stuff' and it'll just end up waiting until e.g. Xerte 1.9 thanks, David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 30 09:56:59 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:56:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) In-Reply-To: <289d10e4-21a5-4a23-b588-0f8488be1703@email.android.com> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl>, <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC036@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8508B912-7EAE-4368-B4E8-788D55808BD7@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC04F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <289d10e4-21a5-4a23-b588-0f8488be1703@email.android.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24E31@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I appreciate that Tom, thanks, it does come up all the time. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 30 May 2012 09:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) I wanted to see if I could finish this in a short time. Improving this (authentication) is really important.... It is one of the most discussed topic in the mailinglist. Can't promise anything, but will have a look. -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. Julian Tenney schreef: I think I take form all these discussions that this is extra stuff you?re working on, and the currently committed code works, and is an improvement on 1.7? If so, then yes, we can wait if need be. It won?t be too long until another release anyway. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 30 May 2012 09:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) On 30 May 2012, at 09:34, Julian Tenney wrote: I don?t really know w hat your intention is here. I don?t know if anyone but you has any idea whether this is a patch we should apply, a patch for information, a patch you intend to keep working and will apply, a patch you want us to work on or what? Tom expressed an interest in seeing it, I believe. Hopefully I wasn't wearing rose tinted glasses and reading what he wrote in too optimistic a manner. Failing any review from anyone else, then perhaps so meone could give me some guidance with regards to how configurable I should try and make 'stuff' and it'll just end up waiting until e.g. Xerte 1.9 thanks, David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 30 09:55:37 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:55:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC036@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8508B912-7EAE-4368-B4E8-788D55808BD7@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24E2A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I dare us. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 30 May 2012 09:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) Shall we dare to make a roadmap for 1.9? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, David Goodwin wrote: > > On 30 May 2012, at 09:34, Julian Tenney wrote: > > I don't really know what your intention is here. I don't know if anyone but > you has any idea whether this is a patch we should apply, a patch for > information, a patch you intend to keep working and will apply, a patch you > want us to work on or what? > > > > > Tom expressed an interest in seeing it, I believe. ?Hopefully I wasn't > wearing rose tinted glasses and reading what he wrote in too optimistic a > manner. > > Failing any review from anyone else, then perhaps someone could give me some > guidance with regards to how configurable I should try and make 'stuff' and > it'll just end up waiting until e.g. Xerte 1.9 > > > thanks, > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 30 10:09:01 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:09:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) In-Reply-To: <289d10e4-21a5-4a23-b588-0f8488be1703@email.android.com> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC036@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8508B912-7EAE-4368-B4E8-788D55808BD7@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC04F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <289d10e4-21a5-4a23-b588-0f8488be1703@email.android.com> Message-ID: If some one knows of an LDAP I can test against I am happy to help. Have a little time free. On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I wanted to see if I could finish this in a short time. Improving this > (authentication) is really important.... > It is one of the most discussed topic in the mailinglist. > > Can't promise anything, but will have a look. > -- > Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. > > Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> I think I take form all these discussions that this is extra stuff you?re >> working on, and the currently committed code works, and is an improvement on >> 1.7? >> >> >> >> If so, then yes, we can wait if need be. It won?t be too long until >> another release anyway. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin >> Sent: 30 May 2012 09:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - >> incomplete patch attached) >> >> >> >> >> >> On 30 May 2012, at 09:34, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> >> >> I don?t really know w hat your intention is here. I don?t know if anyone >> but you has any idea whether this is a patch we should apply, a patch for >> information, a patch you intend to keep working and will apply, a patch you >> want us to work on or what? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tom expressed an interest in seeing it, I believe. ?Hopefully I wasn't >> wearing rose tinted glasses and reading what he wrote in too optimistic a >> manner. >> >> >> >> Failing any review from anyone else, then perhaps so meone could give me >> some guidance with regards to how configurable I should try and make 'stuff' >> and it'll just end up waiting until e.g. Xerte 1.9 >> >> >> >> >> >> thanks, >> >> >> >> David. >> >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >> >> 'Busi ness Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> >> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> >> >> Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >> permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 30 10:09:22 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:09:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24E2A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC036@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8508B912-7EAE-4368-B4E8-788D55808BD7@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24E2A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: google doc time? I'd be tempted to email the list? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I dare us. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 09:50 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) > > Shall we dare to make a roadmap for 1.9? > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, David Goodwin wrote: >> >> On 30 May 2012, at 09:34, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> I don't really know what your intention is here. I don't know if anyone but >> you has any idea whether this is a patch we should apply, a patch for >> information, a patch you intend to keep working and will apply, a patch you >> want us to work on or what? >> >> >> >> >> Tom expressed an interest in seeing it, I believe. ?Hopefully I wasn't >> wearing rose tinted glasses and reading what he wrote in too optimistic a >> manner. >> >> Failing any review from anyone else, then perhaps someone could give me some >> guidance with regards to how configurable I should try and make 'stuff' and >> it'll just end up waiting until e.g. Xerte 1.9 >> >> >> thanks, >> >> David. >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 30 10:14:08 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:14:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC036@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8508B912-7EAE-4368-B4E8-788D55808BD7@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24E2A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24E6A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hang on, don't jump the gun, let's get this stuff out the door first... ;-) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 30 May 2012 10:09 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) google doc time? I'd be tempted to email the list? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I dare us. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 09:50 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) > > Shall we dare to make a roadmap for 1.9? > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, David Goodwin wrote: >> >> On 30 May 2012, at 09:34, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> I don't really know what your intention is here. I don't know if anyone but >> you has any idea whether this is a patch we should apply, a patch for >> information, a patch you intend to keep working and will apply, a patch you >> want us to work on or what? >> >> >> >> >> Tom expressed an interest in seeing it, I believe. ?Hopefully I wasn't >> wearing rose tinted glasses and reading what he wrote in too optimistic a >> manner. >> >> Failing any review from anyone else, then perhaps someone could give me some >> guidance with regards to how configurable I should try and make 'stuff' and >> it'll just end up waiting until e.g. Xerte 1.9 >> >> >> thanks, >> >> David. >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 30 10:20:51 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:20:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24E6A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCC036@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8508B912-7EAE-4368-B4E8-788D55808BD7@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24E2A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24E6A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I am thinking it does two things * This change has been sort of done without the list, so it might be a bit odd to have not asked for ideas / suggestions * So if we say we've made a new version, and now are looking for feedback for the next version, it looks more "community" * and we have to tell the list 1.8 is almost done at some point On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Hang on, don't jump the gun, let's get this stuff out the door first... > > ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 10:09 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) > > google doc time? > > I'd be tempted to email the list? > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> I dare us. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 30 May 2012 09:50 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) >> >> Shall we dare to make a roadmap for 1.9? >> >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, David Goodwin wrote: >>> >>> On 30 May 2012, at 09:34, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> >>> I don't really know what your intention is here. I don't know if anyone but >>> you has any idea whether this is a patch we should apply, a patch for >>> information, a patch you intend to keep working and will apply, a patch you >>> want us to work on or what? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom expressed an interest in seeing it, I believe. ?Hopefully I wasn't >>> wearing rose tinted glasses and reading what he wrote in too optimistic a >>> manner. >>> >>> Failing any review from anyone else, then perhaps someone could give me some >>> guidance with regards to how configurable I should try and make 'stuff' and >>> it'll just end up waiting until e.g. Xerte 1.9 >>> >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> David. >>> >>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>> >>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>> >>> Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed May 30 10:25:30 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:25:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project Message-ID: I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in the next release of Xerte / XOT. I used Open Office so that a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy b) so that I could output in pdf format But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use something like camstudio to create some demo videos. If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to create alternative subtitles. So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to go with it? If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the video / subtitles? 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Let's get this done and when we communicate about it we can also set up the ideas capture stuff as well, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 30 May 2012 10:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) I am thinking it does two things * This change has been sort of done without the list, so it might be a bit odd to have not asked for ideas / suggestions * So if we say we've made a new version, and now are looking for feedback for the next version, it looks more "community" * and we have to tell the list 1.8 is almost done at some point On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Hang on, don't jump the gun, let's get this stuff out the door first... > > ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 10:09 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) > > google doc time? > > I'd be tempted to email the list? > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> I dare us. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 30 May 2012 09:50 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues (Configurable authentication - incomplete patch attached) >> >> Shall we dare to make a roadmap for 1.9? >> >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, David Goodwin wrote: >>> >>> On 30 May 2012, at 09:34, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> >>> I don't really know what your intention is here. I don't know if anyone but >>> you has any idea whether this is a patch we should apply, a patch for >>> information, a patch you intend to keep working and will apply, a patch you >>> want us to work on or what? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom expressed an interest in seeing it, I believe. ?Hopefully I wasn't >>> wearing rose tinted glasses and reading what he wrote in too optimistic a >>> manner. >>> >>> Failing any review from anyone else, then perhaps someone could give me some >>> guidance with regards to how configurable I should try and make 'stuff' and >>> it'll just end up waiting until e.g. Xerte 1.9 >>> >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> David. >>> >>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>> >>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>> >>> Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 30 10:37:03 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:37:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Johnathan The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types. It will also support the flvs that we currently use but these will obviously need flash so won't work on iPads etc. I have made a simple tool that will make a timed transcript files to go with audio / video files - I'll send you it in a sec. Not sure about the best way to convert files at the moment though. Fay From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 May 2012 10:25 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in the next release of Xerte / XOT. I used Open Office so that a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy b) so that I could output in pdf format But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use something like camstudio to create some demo videos. If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to create alternative subtitles. So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to go with it? If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the video / subtitles? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Fay From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 May 2012 10:25 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in the next release of Xerte / XOT. I used Open Office so that a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy b) so that I could output in pdf format But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use something like camstudio to create some demo videos. If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to create alternative subtitles. So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to go with it? If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the video / subtitles? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I?ll send you it in a sec. > > > > Not sure about the best way to convert files at the moment though. > > > > Fay > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 May 2012 10:25 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith > project > > > > I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in > the next release of Xerte / XOT. > > > > I used Open Office so that > > a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy > > b) so that I could output in pdf format > > > > But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use > something like camstudio to create some demo videos. > > If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file > (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to > create alternative subtitles. > > > > So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith > project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had > considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to > go with it? > > > > If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that > any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. > > > > As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. > for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the > video / subtitles? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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It will also support the flvs that we currently use but these will obviously need flash so won't work on iPads etc. I have made a simple tool that will make a timed transcript files to go with audio / video files - I'll send you it in a sec. Not sure about the best way to convert files at the moment though. Fay From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 May 2012 10:25 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in the next release of Xerte / XOT. I used Open Office so that a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy b) so that I could output in pdf format But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use something like camstudio to create some demo videos. If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to create alternative subtitles. So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to go with it? If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the video / subtitles? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed May 30 10:50:28 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:50:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24ED7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24ED7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hell I used to be one sandwich short of a picnic now I'm two frames short of a Xerte :-) JK On 30 May 2012 10:48, Julian Tenney wrote: > Xerte is 24fps, but in html5 it won?t matter > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 May 2012 10:48 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in > Xenith project > > > > Is there a recommended frame rate - I think Xerte uses 22 fps? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 30 May 2012 10:37, Fay Cross wrote: > > Hi Johnathan > > > > The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types. It will also > support the flvs that we currently use but these will obviously need flash > so won?t work on iPads etc. > > > > I have made a simple tool that will make a timed transcript files to go > with audio / video files ? I?ll send you it in a sec. > > > > Not sure about the best way to convert files at the moment though. > > > > Fay > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 May 2012 10:25 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith > project > > > > I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in > the next release of Xerte / XOT. > > > > I used Open Office so that > > a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy > > b) so that I could output in pdf format > > > > But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use > something like camstudio to create some demo videos. > > If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file > (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to > create alternative subtitles. > > > > So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith > project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had > considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to > go with it? > > > > If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that > any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. > > > > As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. > for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the > video / subtitles? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed May 30 12:23:23 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:23:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24ED7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24FC3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> >I'm two frames short of a Xerte :-) I saw this and thought of you: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/may/29/accordian-wrestling-kimmo-pohjonon "In the show, Pohjonen plays his souped-up, electronic accordion while wrestlers from Helsinki grapple with each other." That's pretty 'specialist' stuff. ;-) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 May 2012 10:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project Hell I used to be one sandwich short of a picnic now I'm two frames short of a Xerte :-) JK On 30 May 2012 10:48, Julian Tenney > wrote: Xerte is 24fps, but in html5 it won't matter From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 May 2012 10:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project Is there a recommended frame rate - I think Xerte uses 22 fps? Kind regards Johnathan On 30 May 2012 10:37, Fay Cross > wrote: Hi Johnathan The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types. It will also support the flvs that we currently use but these will obviously need flash so won't work on iPads etc. I have made a simple tool that will make a timed transcript files to go with audio / video files - I'll send you it in a sec. Not sure about the best way to convert files at the moment though. Fay From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 May 2012 10:25 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in the next release of Xerte / XOT. I used Open Office so that a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy b) so that I could output in pdf format But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use something like camstudio to create some demo videos. If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to create alternative subtitles. So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to go with it? If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the video / subtitles? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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It would be nice for the accordion to make a come back, so I guess every little helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 May 2012 12:23, Julian Tenney wrote: > >I'm two frames short of a Xerte :-) > > > > I saw this and thought of you: > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/may/29/accordian-wrestling-kimmo-pohjonon > > ?In the show, Pohjonen plays his souped-up, electronic accordion while > wrestlers from Helsinki grapple with each other.? > > > > That?s pretty ?specialist? stuff. > > > > ;-) > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 May 2012 10:50 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in > Xenith project > > > > Hell I used to be one sandwich short of a picnic now I'm two frames short > of a Xerte :-) > > > > JK > > > > On 30 May 2012 10:48, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Xerte is 24fps, but in html5 it won?t matter > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 May 2012 10:48 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in > Xenith project > > > > Is there a recommended frame rate - I think Xerte uses 22 fps? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 30 May 2012 10:37, Fay Cross wrote: > > Hi Johnathan > > > > The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types. It will also > support the flvs that we currently use but these will obviously need flash > so won?t work on iPads etc. > > > > I have made a simple tool that will make a timed transcript files to go > with audio / video files ? I?ll send you it in a sec. > > > > Not sure about the best way to convert files at the moment though. > > > > Fay > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 May 2012 10:25 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith > project > > > > I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in > the next release of Xerte / XOT. > > > > I used Open Office so that > > a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy > > b) so that I could output in pdf format > > > > But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use > something like camstudio to create some demo videos. > > If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file > (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to > create alternative subtitles. > > > > So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith > project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had > considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to > go with it? > > > > If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that > any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. > > > > As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. > for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the > video / subtitles? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed May 30 15:47:08 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:47:08 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> Message-ID: <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has something to do with the way the language session variable is set. It you set it explicitly (as I do in my setup) everything seems to work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by looking at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but not quite. As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language the techdis test server suffers from this. I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) Tom Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: > With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some > undefines. Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is > no undefine for the other labels..... > By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install everything > is working. > > -- > Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. > > Ron Mitchell schreef: > > Hi Tom > sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( > > The two language file updates are in place now. > Cheers > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > Ron, > > About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the languages/wizard_en-GB.xml > file and let me know when that's done? > > Thanks! > > Tom > > Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: > > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > > >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... > > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so it's > irrelevant. > > > > David. > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application > > Development and Training in PHP' > > > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 30 15:51:34 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:51:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> Message-ID: Does moodle not have a language variable set? I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has something to > do with the way the language session variable is set. > > It you set it explicitly (as I do? in my setup) everything seems to work > fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by looking at the > locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but not quite. As the moodle > setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language the techdis test server > suffers from this. > > I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this week, as > this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) > > Tom > > Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some undefines. > Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no undefine for > the other labels..... > By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install everything is > working. > > -- > Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. > > Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Hi Tom >> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >> >> The two language file updates are in place now. >> Cheers >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >> >> Ron, >> >> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml >> file and let me know when that's done? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Tom >> >> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> > >> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so it's >> irrelevant. >> > >> > David. >> > >> > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >> > Development and Training in PHP' >> > >> > http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> > >> > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ >> > Xerte-dev mailing list >> > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> > and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >> not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the au >> thor of >> this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> > >> > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: >> > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >> > >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 30 16:10:55 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:10:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> Message-ID: <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle integration enabled for authentication as on the current test install I don't think the XOT code should try to use that same Language setting e.g. it might be a language that exists in Moodle but doesn't in XOT. Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at the code at the moment but I know there's a conditional which doesn't fire the XOT session start if Moodle integration is enabled. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues Does moodle not have a language variable set? I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has > something to do with the way the language session variable is set. > > It you set it explicitly (as I do? in my setup) everything seems to > work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by looking > at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but not quite. > As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language the > techdis test server suffers from this. > > I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this > week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) > > Tom > > Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: > > With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some undefines. > Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no undefine > for the other labels..... > By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install everything > is working. > > -- > Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. > > Ron Mitchell schreef: >> >> Hi Tom >> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >> >> The two language file updates are in place now. >> Cheers >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >> Reijnders >> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >> >> Ron, >> >> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Tom >> >> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> > >> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >> > it's >> irrelevant. >> > >> > David. >> > >> > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >> > Development and Training in PHP' >> > >> > http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> > >> > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ >> > Xerte-dev mailing list >> > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> > addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >> not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Wed May 30 16:21:41 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:21:41 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <20120530172141.61754v226jar7ojp@server.tor.nl> By heart, it is in the _load_language_file function in functions.php There, I think, _SESSION['toolkits_language'] should be set if it isn't... But let me have a look later today. Tom Citeren Ron Mitchell : > Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle integration > enabled for authentication as on the current test install I don't think the > XOT code should try to use that same Language setting e.g. it might be a > language that exists in Moodle but doesn't in XOT. > > Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at the code > at the moment but I know there's a conditional which doesn't fire the XOT > session start if Moodle integration is enabled. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > Does moodle not have a language variable set? > > I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >> >> It you set it explicitly (as I do? in my setup) everything seems to >> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by looking >> at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but not quite. >> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language the >> techdis test server suffers from this. >> >> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) >> >> Tom >> >> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> >> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some > undefines. >> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no undefine >> for the other labels..... >> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install everything >> is working. >> >> -- >> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >> >> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>> >>> Hi Tom >>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>> >>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>> Cheers >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>> >>> Ron, >>> >>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> > >>> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >>> > it's >>> irrelevant. >>> > >>> > David. >>> > >>> > Pale Purple Ltd. 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From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 30 16:22:34 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:22:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: are we using the moodle_integration.txt index.php on the current install? This file is a derived from index.php and has non-internationalised stuff in? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle integration > enabled for authentication as on the current test install I don't think the > XOT code should try to use that same Language setting e.g. it might be a > language that exists in Moodle but doesn't in XOT. > > Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at the code > at the moment but I know there's a conditional which doesn't fire the XOT > session start if Moodle integration is enabled. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > Does moodle not have a language variable set? > > I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >> >> It you set it explicitly (as I do? in my setup) everything seems to >> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by looking >> at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but not quite. >> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language the >> techdis test server suffers from this. >> >> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) >> >> Tom >> >> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> >> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some > undefines. >> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no undefine >> for the other labels..... >> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install everything >> is working. >> >> -- >> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >> >> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>> >>> Hi Tom >>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>> >>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>> Cheers >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>> >>> Ron, >>> >>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> > >>> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >>> > it's >>> irrelevant. >>> > >>> > David. >>> > >>> > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>> > Development and Training in PHP' >>> > >>> > http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>> > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>> > >>> > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ________________________________ >>> > Xerte-dev mailing list >>> > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> > addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message > in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>> not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>> any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the au ?thor of >>> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of >>> Nottingham. >>> > >>> > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>> > your >>> computer system: >>> > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>> > with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>> > UK >>> legislation. >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do > not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of > Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 30 16:59:22 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:59:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <014001cd3e7d$2fe95f70$8fbc1e50$@co.uk> No it's the default index.php with the relevant authentication method uncommented in config.php. The only thing I had to change was adding a require path to the moodle config file at the top of config.php even though the path is also in the database as integration path. Without the path added to the top of config there was something that wasn't working - can't remember exactly what off the top of my head. There are some moodle related text files in the svn that need to be deleted as they aren't required now but I was going to do a final test and document that once all the authentication code is finished. Sounds like it might be now once ldap is tested until a future release. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 30 May 2012 16:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues are we using the moodle_integration.txt index.php on the current install? This file is a derived from index.php and has non-internationalised stuff in? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle > integration enabled for authentication as on the current test install > I don't think the XOT code should try to use that same Language > setting e.g. it might be a language that exists in Moodle but doesn't in XOT. > > Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at > the code at the moment but I know there's a conditional which doesn't > fire the XOT session start if Moodle integration is enabled. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > Does moodle not have a language variable set? > > I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >> >> It you set it explicitly (as I do? in my setup) everything seems to >> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by >> looking at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but not quite. >> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language the >> techdis test server suffers from this. >> >> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) >> >> Tom >> >> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> >> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some > undefines. >> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no >> undefine for the other labels..... >> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install >> everything is working. >> >> -- >> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >> >> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>> >>> Hi Tom >>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>> >>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>> Cheers >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Reijnders >>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>> >>> Ron, >>> >>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> > >>> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >>> > it's >>> irrelevant. >>> > >>> > David. >>> > >>> > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>> > Development and Training in PHP' >>> > >>> > http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>> > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 30 17:03:59 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:03:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <014001cd3e7d$2fe95f70$8fbc1e50$@co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> <014001cd3e7d$2fe95f70$8fbc1e50$@co.uk> Message-ID: ok, well the moodle_integration file will need changing then, as at the moment it won't work On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > No it's the default index.php with the relevant authentication method > uncommented in config.php. > The only thing I had to change was adding a require path to the moodle > config file at the top of config.php even though the path is also in the > database as integration path. Without the path added to the top of config > there was something that wasn't working - can't remember exactly what off > the top of my head. > > There are some moodle related text files in the svn that need to be deleted > as they aren't required now but I was going to do a final test and document > that once all the authentication code is finished. Sounds like it might be > now once ldap is tested until a future release. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 16:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > are we using the moodle_integration.txt index.php on the current install? > > This file is a derived from index.php and has non-internationalised stuff > in? > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle >> integration enabled for authentication as on the current test install >> I don't think the XOT code should try to use that same Language >> setting e.g. it might be a language that exists in Moodle but doesn't in > XOT. >> >> Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at >> the code at the moment but I know there's a conditional which doesn't >> fire the XOT session start if Moodle integration is enabled. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >> >> Does moodle not have a language variable set? >> >> I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? >> >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >>> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >>> >>> It you set it explicitly (as I do? in my setup) everything seems to >>> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by >>> looking at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but not > quite. >>> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language the >>> techdis test server suffers from this. >>> >>> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >>> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>> >>> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some >> undefines. >>> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no >>> undefine for the other labels..... >>> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install >>> everything is working. >>> >>> -- >>> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >>> >>> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>> >>>> Hi Tom >>>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>>> >>>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>>> Cheers >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>>> >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>>> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>>> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >>>> > it's >>>> irrelevant. >>>> > >>>> > David. >>>> > >>>> > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>> > Development and Training in PHP' >>>> > >>>> > http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>> > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>>> > >>>> > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ >>>> > Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> > addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>> message >> in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >>>> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>>> this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed >>>> by the au ?thor of this email do not necessarily reflect the views >>>> of the University of Nottingham. >>>> > >>>> > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>> > your >>>> computer system: >>>> > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> > with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> > UK >>>> legislation. >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >>> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >> University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please >>> do >> not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>> any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >>> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of >> Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained >>> in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions >>> expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the >>> views of the >> University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 30 17:20:07 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:20:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> <014001cd3e7d$2fe95f70$8fbc1e50$@co.uk> Message-ID: <014401cd3e80$1650c320$42f24960$@co.uk> what moodle_integration file? At the moment looking at my copy of trunk there's the following files: readme_moodlepatch.txt - needs to be deleted as it's old and out of date moodle_integration_readme.txt is the current instructions about enabling moodle authentication but I'll update this before release with reference to the error I mentioned below. integration.txt This isn't a moodle related file but I mention this because not sure whether this is still relevant or not after David's changes but I suspect not? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 30 May 2012 17:04 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues ok, well the moodle_integration file will need changing then, as at the moment it won't work On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > No it's the default index.php with the relevant authentication method > uncommented in config.php. > The only thing I had to change was adding a require path to the moodle > config file at the top of config.php even though the path is also in > the database as integration path. Without the path added to the top of > config there was something that wasn't working - can't remember > exactly what off the top of my head. > > There are some moodle related text files in the svn that need to be > deleted as they aren't required now but I was going to do a final test > and document that once all the authentication code is finished. Sounds > like it might be now once ldap is tested until a future release. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 16:23 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > are we using the moodle_integration.txt index.php on the current install? > > This file is a derived from index.php and has non-internationalised > stuff in? > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ron Mitchell > > wrote: >> Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle >> integration enabled for authentication as on the current test install >> I don't think the XOT code should try to use that same Language >> setting e.g. it might be a language that exists in Moodle but doesn't >> in > XOT. >> >> Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at >> the code at the moment but I know there's a conditional which doesn't >> fire the XOT session start if Moodle integration is enabled. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >> >> Does moodle not have a language variable set? >> >> I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? >> >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >>> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >>> >>> It you set it explicitly (as I do? in my setup) everything seems to >>> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by >>> looking at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but >>> not > quite. >>> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language >>> the techdis test server suffers from this. >>> >>> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >>> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>> >>> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some >> undefines. >>> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no >>> undefine for the other labels..... >>> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install >>> everything is working. >>> >>> -- >>> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >>> >>> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>> >>>> Hi Tom >>>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>>> >>>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>>> Cheers >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>>> >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>>> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>>> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >>>> > it's >>>> irrelevant. >>>> > >>>> > David. >>>> > >>>> > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>> > Development and Training in PHP' >>>> > >>>> > http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>> > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>>> > >>>> > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ >>>> > Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> > addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>> message >> in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >>>> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>>> this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed >>>> by the au ?thor of this email do not necessarily reflect the views >>>> of the University of Nottingham. >>>> > >>>> > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>> > your >>>> computer system: >>>> > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> > with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted >>>> > by UK >>>> legislation. >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications >>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>> UK >> legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 30 17:23:47 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:23:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <014401cd3e80$1650c320$42f24960$@co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> <014001cd3e7d$2fe95f70$8fbc1e50$@co.uk> <014401cd3e80$1650c320$42f24960$@co.uk> Message-ID: http://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/moodle_integration.txt in my svn and on google? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > what moodle_integration file? > > At the moment looking at my copy of trunk there's the following files: > > readme_moodlepatch.txt - needs to be deleted as it's old and out of date > > moodle_integration_readme.txt is the current instructions about enabling > moodle authentication but I'll update this before release with reference to > the error I mentioned below. > > integration.txt This isn't a moodle related file but I mention this because > not sure whether this is still relevant or not after David's changes but I > suspect not? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 17:04 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > ok, well the moodle_integration file will need changing then, as at the > moment it won't work > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> No it's the default index.php with the relevant authentication method >> uncommented in config.php. >> The only thing I had to change was adding a require path to the moodle >> config file at the top of config.php even though the path is also in >> the database as integration path. Without the path added to the top of >> config there was something that wasn't working - can't remember >> exactly what off the top of my head. >> >> There are some moodle related text files in the svn that need to be >> deleted as they aren't required now but I was going to do a final test >> and document that once all the authentication code is finished. Sounds >> like it might be now once ldap is tested until a future release. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 May 2012 16:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >> >> are we using the moodle_integration.txt index.php on the current install? >> >> This file is a derived from index.php and has non-internationalised >> stuff in? >> >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ron Mitchell >> >> wrote: >>> Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle >>> integration enabled for authentication as on the current test install >>> I don't think the XOT code should try to use that same Language >>> setting e.g. it might be a language that exists in Moodle but doesn't >>> in >> XOT. >>> >>> Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at >>> the code at the moment but I know there's a conditional which doesn't >>> fire the XOT session start if Moodle integration is enabled. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>> >>> Does moodle not have a language variable set? >>> >>> I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? >>> >>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >>>> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >>>> >>>> It you set it explicitly (as I do? in my setup) everything seems to >>>> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by >>>> looking at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but >>>> not >> quite. >>>> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language >>>> the techdis test server suffers from this. >>>> >>>> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >>>> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>>> >>>> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some >>> undefines. >>>> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no >>>> undefine for the other labels..... >>>> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install >>>> everything is working. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >>>> >>>> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tom >>>>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>>>> >>>>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Ron >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>> Reijnders >>>>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>>>> >>>>> Ron, >>>>> >>>>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>>>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>>>> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>>>> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >>>>> > it's >>>>> irrelevant. >>>>> > >>>>> > David. >>>>> > >>>>> > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>> > Development and Training in PHP' >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>> > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>> > >>>>> > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> > Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>> > addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications >>>>> > with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted >>>>> > by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>>> necessarily reflect the views of the >>> University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>> your >>> computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>> immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any >>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>>> necessarily reflect the views of the >>> University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>> your >>> computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed May 30 17:41:47 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:41:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> <014001cd3e7d$2fe95f70$8fbc1e50$@co.uk> <014401cd3e80$1650c320$42f24960$@co.uk> Message-ID: <014601cd3e83$1cc8ec20$565ac460$@co.uk> sorry missed that it is also in my main copy but I use a different (exported) copy for testing the moodle integration and had obviously deleted it from that. Can you or someone else delete moodle_integration.txt and readme_moodlepatch.txt from the svn. I dodn't think I have access to delete. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 30 May 2012 17:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues http://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/moodle_inte gration.txt in my svn and on google? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > what moodle_integration file? > > At the moment looking at my copy of trunk there's the following files: > > readme_moodlepatch.txt - needs to be deleted as it's old and out of > date > > moodle_integration_readme.txt is the current instructions about > enabling moodle authentication but I'll update this before release > with reference to the error I mentioned below. > > integration.txt This isn't a moodle related file but I mention this > because not sure whether this is still relevant or not after David's > changes but I suspect not? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 17:04 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > ok, well the moodle_integration file will need changing then, as at > the moment it won't work > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Ron Mitchell > > wrote: >> No it's the default index.php with the relevant authentication method >> uncommented in config.php. >> The only thing I had to change was adding a require path to the >> moodle config file at the top of config.php even though the path is >> also in the database as integration path. Without the path added to >> the top of config there was something that wasn't working - can't >> remember exactly what off the top of my head. >> >> There are some moodle related text files in the svn that need to be >> deleted as they aren't required now but I was going to do a final >> test and document that once all the authentication code is finished. >> Sounds like it might be now once ldap is tested until a future release. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 May 2012 16:23 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >> >> are we using the moodle_integration.txt index.php on the current install? >> >> This file is a derived from index.php and has non-internationalised >> stuff in? >> >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ron Mitchell >> >> wrote: >>> Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle >>> integration enabled for authentication as on the current test >>> install I don't think the XOT code should try to use that same >>> Language setting e.g. it might be a language that exists in Moodle >>> but doesn't in >> XOT. >>> >>> Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at >>> the code at the moment but I know there's a conditional which >>> doesn't fire the XOT session start if Moodle integration is enabled. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>> >>> Does moodle not have a language variable set? >>> >>> I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? >>> >>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >>>> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >>>> >>>> It you set it explicitly (as I do? in my setup) everything seems to >>>> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by >>>> looking at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but >>>> not >> quite. >>>> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language >>>> the techdis test server suffers from this. >>>> >>>> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >>>> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) >>>> ) >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>>> >>>> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some >>> undefines. >>>> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no >>>> undefine for the other labels..... >>>> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install >>>> everything is working. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >>>> >>>> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tom >>>>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>>>> >>>>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Ron >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>> Reijnders >>>>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>>>> >>>>> Ron, >>>>> >>>>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>>>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>>>> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>>>> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. >>>>> > so it's >>>>> irrelevant. >>>>> > >>>>> > David. >>>>> > >>>>> > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web >>>>> > Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>> > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>> > >>>>> > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> > Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>> > addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications >>>>> > with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted >>>>> > by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>>> necessarily reflect the views of the >>> University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>> your >>> computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed May 30 17:43:04 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:43:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <014601cd3e83$1cc8ec20$565ac460$@co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> <014001cd3e7d$2fe95f70$8fbc1e50$@co.uk> <014401cd3e80$1650c320$42f24960$@co.uk> <014601cd3e83$1cc8ec20$565ac460$@co.uk> Message-ID: done On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > sorry missed that it is also in my main copy but I use a different > (exported) copy for testing the moodle integration and had obviously deleted > it from that. > > Can you or someone else delete moodle_integration.txt and > readme_moodlepatch.txt from the svn. I dodn't think I have access to delete. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 May 2012 17:24 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > http://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/moodle_inte > gration.txt > > in my svn and on google? > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> what moodle_integration file? >> >> At the moment looking at my copy of trunk there's the following files: >> >> readme_moodlepatch.txt - needs to be deleted as it's old and out of >> date >> >> moodle_integration_readme.txt is the current instructions about >> enabling moodle authentication but I'll update this before release >> with reference to the error I mentioned below. >> >> integration.txt This isn't a moodle related file but I mention this >> because not sure whether this is still relevant or not after David's >> changes but I suspect not? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 May 2012 17:04 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >> >> ok, well the moodle_integration file will need changing then, as at >> the moment it won't work >> >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Ron Mitchell >> >> wrote: >>> No it's the default index.php with the relevant authentication method >>> uncommented in config.php. >>> The only thing I had to change was adding a require path to the >>> moodle config file at the top of config.php even though the path is >>> also in the database as integration path. Without the path added to >>> the top of config there was something that wasn't working - can't >>> remember exactly what off the top of my head. >>> >>> There are some moodle related text files in the svn that need to be >>> deleted as they aren't required now but I was going to do a final >>> test and document that once all the authentication code is finished. >>> Sounds like it might be now once ldap is tested until a future release. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 May 2012 16:23 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>> >>> are we using the moodle_integration.txt index.php on the current install? >>> >>> This file is a derived from index.php and has non-internationalised >>> stuff in? >>> >>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ron Mitchell >>> >>> wrote: >>>> Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle >>>> integration enabled for authentication as on the current test >>>> install I don't think the XOT code should try to use that same >>>> Language setting e.g. it might be a language that exists in Moodle >>>> but doesn't in >>> XOT. >>>> >>>> Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at >>>> the code at the moment but I know there's a conditional which >>>> doesn't fire the XOT session start if Moodle integration is enabled. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>>> >>>> Does moodle not have a language variable set? >>>> >>>> I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >>>>> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >>>>> >>>>> It you set it explicitly (as I do? in my setup) everything seems to >>>>> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by >>>>> looking at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but >>>>> not >>> quite. >>>>> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language >>>>> the techdis test server suffers from this. >>>>> >>>>> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >>>>> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>>>> >>>>> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some >>>> undefines. >>>>> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no >>>>> undefine for the other labels..... >>>>> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install >>>>> everything is working. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >>>>> >>>>> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tom >>>>>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>>>>> >>>>>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Ron >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron, >>>>>> >>>>>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>>>>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>>>>> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>>>>> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. >>>>>> > so it's >>>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > David. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web >>>>>> > Application Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>> > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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Email communications >>>>>> > with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted >>>>>> > by UK >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>> immediately delete it. 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Email communications >>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>>> UK >>>> legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>> immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications >>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>>> UK >>>> legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Wed May 30 21:07:07 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:07:07 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <20120530172141.61754v226jar7ojp@server.tor.nl> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> <20120530172141.61754v226jar7ojp@server.tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FC67DEB.9060603@tor.nl> Yes, that was it. Committed. Op 30-5-2012 17:21, Tom Reijnders schreef: > By heart, it is in the _load_language_file function in functions.php > > There, I think, _SESSION['toolkits_language'] should be set if it > isn't... > But let me have a look later today. > > Tom > > > Citeren Ron Mitchell : > >> Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle >> integration >> enabled for authentication as on the current test install I don't >> think the >> XOT code should try to use that same Language setting e.g. it might be a >> language that exists in Moodle but doesn't in XOT. >> >> Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at >> the code >> at the moment but I know there's a conditional which doesn't fire the >> XOT >> session start if Moodle integration is enabled. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >> >> Does moodle not have a language variable set? >> >> I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? >> >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >>> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >>> >>> It you set it explicitly (as I do in my setup) everything seems to >>> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by looking >>> at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but not quite. >>> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language the >>> techdis test server suffers from this. >>> >>> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >>> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>> >>> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some >> undefines. >>> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no undefine >>> for the other labels..... >>> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install everything >>> is working. >>> >>> -- >>> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >>> >>> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>> >>>> Hi Tom >>>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>>> >>>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>>> Cheers >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>>> >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>>> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>>> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >>>> > it's >>>> irrelevant. >>>> > >>>> > David. >>>> > >>>> > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>> > Development and Training in PHP' >>>> > >>>> > http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>> > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>> > >>>> > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ >>>> > Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> > addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>> message >> in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >>>> Please do >>>> not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>> any attachment. 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Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed May 30 22:26:18 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:26:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24ED7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24FC3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thank you Dave, Uwe Steiger is doing some fantastic things with the Roland V accordions http://youtu.be/DBQ20ikUBdQ So maybe there's a great future for the Accordion. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 May 2012 15:30, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > >It would be nice for the accordion to make a come back, so I guess every > little helps. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65EHG5wMu4 > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed May 30 22:40:26 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:40:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Fay, The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types I am finally getting somewhere (I think), having created some test files using camstudio with the Xvid MPEG - codec. This still outputs in an avi wrapper. However I have found some free software that will convert it to both mp4 and webM. Both the files play when I open them in VLC media player. However when I installed Adobe Air and then installed the Transcript Tool (thank you for making that available) I was surprised to find that I could not load either the MP4 or webm files as neither format was recognised as being a media file. Yet when I open the VLC media player it appears to be filtering on media files and lists both mp4 and webm. Is this a windows issue or specific to the Transcript Tool? What, if anything, do I need to do to open mp4 and webm files in the transcript tool? Kind regards Johnathan On 30 May 2012 10:37, Fay Cross wrote: > Hi Johnathan > > > > The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types. It will also > support the flvs that we currently use but these will obviously need flash > so won?t work on iPads etc. > > > > I have made a simple tool that will make a timed transcript files to go > with audio / video files ? I?ll send you it in a sec. > > > > Not sure about the best way to convert files at the moment though. > > > > Fay > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 May 2012 10:25 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith > project > > > > I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in > the next release of Xerte / XOT. > > > > I used Open Office so that > > a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy > > b) so that I could output in pdf format > > > > But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use > something like camstudio to create some demo videos. > > If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file > (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to > create alternative subtitles. > > > > So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith > project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had > considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to > go with it? > > > > If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that > any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. > > > > As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. > for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the > video / subtitles? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 30 May 2012 21:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues Yes, that was it. Committed. Op 30-5-2012 17:21, Tom Reijnders schreef: > By heart, it is in the _load_language_file function in functions.php > > There, I think, _SESSION['toolkits_language'] should be set if it > isn't... > But let me have a look later today. > > Tom > > > Citeren Ron Mitchell : > >> Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle >> integration enabled for authentication as on the current test install >> I don't think the XOT code should try to use that same Language >> setting e.g. it might be a language that exists in Moodle but doesn't >> in XOT. >> >> Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at >> the code at the moment but I know there's a conditional which doesn't >> fire the XOT session start if Moodle integration is enabled. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >> >> Does moodle not have a language variable set? >> >> I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? >> >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >>> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >>> >>> It you set it explicitly (as I do in my setup) everything seems to >>> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by >>> looking at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but not quite. >>> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language >>> the techdis test server suffers from this. >>> >>> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >>> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>> >>> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some >> undefines. >>> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no >>> undefine for the other labels..... >>> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install >>> everything is working. >>> >>> -- >>> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >>> >>> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>> >>>> Hi Tom >>>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>>> >>>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>>> Cheers >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Reijnders >>>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>>> >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>>> > On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>>> > Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >>>> > it's >>>> irrelevant. >>>> > >>>> > David. >>>> > >>>> > Pale Purple Ltd. 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Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:26:18 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project Thank you Dave, Uwe Steiger is doing some fantastic things with the Roland V accordions http://youtu.be/DBQ20ikUBdQ So maybe there's a great future for the Accordion. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 May 2012 15:30, Dave Burnett wrote: >It would be nice for the accordion to make a come back, so I guess every little helps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65EHG5wMu4 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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The two check boxes should appear at bottom and there shouldn't be a spelling error (Otions in stead of Options) 2. If you have an optional parameter, the tooltip on the delete button (of the optional parameter) should be 'Delete' 3. Any page that has sub items (for example Quiz) should say New Question in stead of undefinedQuestion 4. The title of the CharPad should be Character Pad in stead of undefined. Tom Op 31-5-2012 1:36, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Hi Tom > that updated functions.php is now in place. Not sure exactly what to look > for to check if it has fixed the problem? > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 30 May 2012 21:07 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > Yes, that was it. Committed. > > Op 30-5-2012 17:21, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> By heart, it is in the _load_language_file function in functions.php >> >> There, I think, _SESSION['toolkits_language'] should be set if it >> isn't... >> But let me have a look later today. >> >> Tom >> >> >> Citeren Ron Mitchell: >> >>> Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle >>> integration enabled for authentication as on the current test install >>> I don't think the XOT code should try to use that same Language >>> setting e.g. it might be a language that exists in Moodle but doesn't >>> in XOT. >>> >>> Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at >>> the code at the moment but I know there's a conditional which doesn't >>> fire the XOT session start if Moodle integration is enabled. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>> >>> Does moodle not have a language variable set? >>> >>> I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? >>> >>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >>>> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >>>> >>>> It you set it explicitly (as I do in my setup) everything seems to >>>> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by >>>> looking at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but not > quite. >>>> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language >>>> the techdis test server suffers from this. >>>> >>>> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >>>> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) ) >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>>> >>>> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some >>> undefines. >>>> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no >>>> undefine for the other labels..... >>>> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install >>>> everything is working. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >>>> >>>> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>>> Hi Tom >>>>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>>>> >>>>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Ron >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>> Reijnders >>>>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>>>> >>>>> Ron, >>>>> >>>>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>>>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>>>>> On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>>>>> Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >>>>>> it's >>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu May 31 08:38:26 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:38:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <4FC70AF9.3080607@tor.nl> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> <20120530172141.61754v226jar7ojp@server.tor.nl> <4FC67DEB.9060603@tor.nl> <017f01cd3ebd$0a675e60$1f361b20$@co.uk> <4FC70AF9.3080607@tor.nl> Message-ID: <001a01cd3f00$5fc7ec60$1f57c520$@co.uk> Hi Tom responses as follows: 1. The two check boxes should appear at bottom and there shouldn't be a spelling error (Otions in stead of Options) Confirmed no spelling errors 2. If you have an optional parameter, the tooltip on the delete button (of the optional parameter) should be 'Delete' Yes tooltip is 'Delete' 3. Any page that has sub items (for example Quiz) should say New Question in stead of undefinedQuestion Confirmed Quiz says 'New Question' Others say 'New Nested Page' 4. The title of the CharPad should be Character Pad in stead of undefined. Yep tooltip shows 'Character Pad' HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 31 May 2012 07:09 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues It seems to work fine now, but I would appreciate some extra testing: Edit an LO and then check whether 1. The two check boxes should appear at bottom and there shouldn't be a spelling error (Otions in stead of Options) 2. If you have an optional parameter, the tooltip on the delete button (of the optional parameter) should be 'Delete' 3. Any page that has sub items (for example Quiz) should say New Question in stead of undefinedQuestion 4. The title of the CharPad should be Character Pad in stead of undefined. Tom Op 31-5-2012 1:36, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Hi Tom > that updated functions.php is now in place. Not sure exactly what to > look for to check if it has fixed the problem? > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 30 May 2012 21:07 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > Yes, that was it. Committed. > > Op 30-5-2012 17:21, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> By heart, it is in the _load_language_file function in functions.php >> >> There, I think, _SESSION['toolkits_language'] should be set if it >> isn't... >> But let me have a look later today. >> >> Tom >> >> >> Citeren Ron Mitchell: >> >>> Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle >>> integration enabled for authentication as on the current test >>> install I don't think the XOT code should try to use that same >>> Language setting e.g. it might be a language that exists in Moodle >>> but doesn't in XOT. >>> >>> Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at >>> the code at the moment but I know there's a conditional which >>> doesn't fire the XOT session start if Moodle integration is enabled. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>> >>> Does moodle not have a language variable set? >>> >>> I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? >>> >>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >>>> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >>>> >>>> It you set it explicitly (as I do in my setup) everything seems to >>>> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by >>>> looking at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but >>>> not > quite. >>>> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language >>>> the techdis test server suffers from this. >>>> >>>> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >>>> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) >>>> ) >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>>> >>>> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some >>> undefines. >>>> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no >>>> undefine for the other labels..... >>>> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install >>>> everything is working. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >>>> >>>> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>>> Hi Tom >>>>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>>>> >>>>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Ron >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>> Reijnders >>>>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>>>> >>>>> Ron, >>>>> >>>>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>>>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>>>>> On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>>>>> Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >>>>>> it's >>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>>> message >>> in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >>>>> Please do >>>>> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>>> in any attachment. 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Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted >>>>>> by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>>> necessarily reflect the views of the >>> University of Nottingham. >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>> your >>> computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this >>> message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >>>> Please do >>> not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>> in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author >>>> of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >>>> University of >>> Nottingham. >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>> your >>> computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete >>>> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>>> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed >>>> by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of >>>> the >>> University of Nottingham. >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>> your >>> computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 31 08:39:30 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:39:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues In-Reply-To: <001a01cd3f00$5fc7ec60$1f57c520$@co.uk> References: <007c01cd3cbf$ada76020$08f62060$@co.uk> <00ec01cd3d90$4c513db0$e4f3b910$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5CCBC8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <7233CA53-A57C-4981-A29A-A0100E6CF314@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC5110B.1050704@tor.nl> <36116E90-9AB3-4371-A9A2-178DD4923F7F@palepurple.co.uk> <4FC525DD.90306@tor.nl> <002e01cd3df2$73a4c2d0$5aee4870$@co.uk> <98201369-fd1c-47fa-afce-33d813c3a1b7@email.android.com> <4FC632EC.4010808@tor.nl> <011b01cd3e76$6b093140$411b93c0$@co.uk> <20120530172141.61754v226jar7ojp@server.tor.nl> <4FC67DEB.9060603@tor.nl> <017f01cd3ebd$0a675e60$1f361b20$@co.uk> <4FC70AF9.3080607@tor.nl> <001a01cd3f00$5fc7ec60$1f57c520$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E252DA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Nice one, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 31 May 2012 08:38 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues Hi Tom responses as follows: 1. The two check boxes should appear at bottom and there shouldn't be a spelling error (Otions in stead of Options) Confirmed no spelling errors 2. If you have an optional parameter, the tooltip on the delete button (of the optional parameter) should be 'Delete' Yes tooltip is 'Delete' 3. Any page that has sub items (for example Quiz) should say New Question in stead of undefinedQuestion Confirmed Quiz says 'New Question' Others say 'New Nested Page' 4. The title of the CharPad should be Character Pad in stead of undefined. Yep tooltip shows 'Character Pad' HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 31 May 2012 07:09 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues It seems to work fine now, but I would appreciate some extra testing: Edit an LO and then check whether 1. The two check boxes should appear at bottom and there shouldn't be a spelling error (Otions in stead of Options) 2. If you have an optional parameter, the tooltip on the delete button (of the optional parameter) should be 'Delete' 3. Any page that has sub items (for example Quiz) should say New Question in stead of undefinedQuestion 4. The title of the CharPad should be Character Pad in stead of undefined. Tom Op 31-5-2012 1:36, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Hi Tom > that updated functions.php is now in place. Not sure exactly what to > look for to check if it has fixed the problem? > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom > Reijnders > Sent: 30 May 2012 21:07 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues > > Yes, that was it. Committed. > > Op 30-5-2012 17:21, Tom Reijnders schreef: >> By heart, it is in the _load_language_file function in functions.php >> >> There, I think, _SESSION['toolkits_language'] should be set if it >> isn't... >> But let me have a look later today. >> >> Tom >> >> >> Citeren Ron Mitchell: >> >>> Moodle does have language functionality but even with the Moodle >>> integration enabled for authentication as on the current test >>> install I don't think the XOT code should try to use that same >>> Language setting e.g. it might be a language that exists in Moodle >>> but doesn't in XOT. >>> >>> Tom is this to do with where session start appears? I can't look at >>> the code at the moment but I know there's a conditional which >>> doesn't fire the XOT session start if Moodle integration is enabled. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 May 2012 15:52 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>> >>> Does moodle not have a language variable set? >>> >>> I think moodle plugins have to have a language folder set? >>> >>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I think I know what is happening (not sure why though). It has >>>> something to do with the way the language session variable is set. >>>> >>>> It you set it explicitly (as I do in my setup) everything seems to >>>> work fine. If the language is set by the default mechanism (by >>>> looking at the locale of the browser) things are almost corrct but >>>> not > quite. >>>> As the moodle setup doesn't allow explicitly selecting a language >>>> the techdis test server suffers from this. >>>> >>>> I''l track down the issue and provide a proper fix (hopefully this >>>> week, as this weekend I have no time, we'll be visiting London ;-) >>>> ) >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 30-5-2012 10:13, Tom Reijnders schreef: >>>> >>>> With mixed results. If the checkboxes do appear I still have some >>> undefines. >>>> Sometimes however the checkboxes are missing, and there is no >>>> undefine for the other labels..... >>>> By the way, to make it more interesting, on my test install >>>> everything is working. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-9 Mail. >>>> >>>> Ron Mitchell schreef: >>>>> Hi Tom >>>>> sorry for the delay been busy with a difficult Moodle upgrade :-( >>>>> >>>>> The two language file updates are in place now. >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Ron >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>> Reijnders >>>>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:39 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding Issues >>>>> >>>>> Ron, >>>>> >>>>> About Johnathan's last issues. can you update the >>>>> languages/wizard_en-GB.xml file and let me know when that's done? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 29-5-2012 21:05, David Goodwin schreef: >>>>>> On 29 May 2012, at 19:10, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Had or Have ;-) It's still not too late... >>>>>> Well, it's not ready/finished/working, and hasn't been tested. so >>>>>> it's >>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application >>>>>> Development and Training in PHP' >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>>>>> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>>> message >>> in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >>>>> Please do >>>>> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>>> in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the au >>>>> thor of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >>>>> University of Nottingham. >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>>>> your >>>>> computer system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted >>>>>> by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>>> necessarily reflect the views of the >>> University of Nottingham. >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>> your >>> computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this >>> message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >>>> Please do >>> not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>> in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author >>>> of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >>>> University of >>> Nottingham. >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>> your >>> computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by >>>> UK >>> legislation. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 31 08:50:30 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:50:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project In-Reply-To: References: , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24ED7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24FC3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E252EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Too many buttons on those big 'uns for me: I've always wanted one like this though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQm6Ufd9274 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 May 2012 03:00 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project Is he controlling pitch etc from foot pedals? ________________________________ Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:26:18 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project Thank you Dave, Uwe Steiger is doing some fantastic things with the Roland V accordions http://youtu.be/DBQ20ikUBdQ So maybe there's a great future for the Accordion. 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Fay From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 May 2012 22:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project Hello Fay, The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types I am finally getting somewhere (I think), having created some test files using camstudio with the Xvid MPEG - codec. This still outputs in an avi wrapper. However I have found some free software that will convert it to both mp4 and webM. Both the files play when I open them in VLC media player. However when I installed Adobe Air and then installed the Transcript Tool (thank you for making that available) I was surprised to find that I could not load either the MP4 or webm files as neither format was recognised as being a media file. Yet when I open the VLC media player it appears to be filtering on media files and lists both mp4 and webm. Is this a windows issue or specific to the Transcript Tool? What, if anything, do I need to do to open mp4 and webm files in the transcript tool? Kind regards Johnathan On 30 May 2012 10:37, Fay Cross > wrote: Hi Johnathan The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types. It will also support the flvs that we currently use but these will obviously need flash so won't work on iPads etc. I have made a simple tool that will make a timed transcript files to go with audio / video files - I'll send you it in a sec. Not sure about the best way to convert files at the moment though. Fay From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 May 2012 10:25 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in the next release of Xerte / XOT. I used Open Office so that a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy b) so that I could output in pdf format But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use something like camstudio to create some demo videos. If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to create alternative subtitles. So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to go with it? If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the video / subtitles? 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu May 31 15:24:29 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:24:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: it?s annoying. Yes it is. I think Opera and Firefox are restricting themselves to formats that are free from any software patents. I am pretty sure I will be able to convert from avi to flv somehow, I just need to look back at my notes to see what I used to do this before I retired. Kind regards Johnathan On 31 May 2012 09:07, Fay Cross wrote: > Hi Johnathan > > > > Yes, sorry I forgot to say the it only allows flvs and mp3 to be used at > the moment ? I should be able to change this to include mp4s too but for > the moment is it possible for you to convert to flv to get your transcript > file? > > > > Also, I listed the video file types you will be able to use in the HTML5 > version but different browsers support different video types. For example, > mp3/4 aren?t supported in Firefox but will play in IE/Safari/Chrome/iOS > while webm files will run on Firefox but not in Safari... it?s annoying. > > > > Fay > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 May 2012 22:40 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in > Xenith project > > > > Hello Fay, > > > > The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types > > > > I am finally getting somewhere (I think), having created some test files > using camstudio with the Xvid MPEG - codec. This still outputs in an avi > wrapper. > > > > However I have found some free software that will convert it to both mp4 > and webM. Both the files play when I open them in VLC media player. > > > > However when I installed Adobe Air and then installed the Transcript Tool > (thank you for making that available) I was surprised to find that I could > not load either the MP4 or webm files as neither format was recognised as > being a media file. > > > > Yet when I open the VLC media player it appears to be filtering on media > files and lists both mp4 and webm. > > > > Is this a windows issue or specific to the Transcript Tool? > > > > What, if anything, do I need to do to open mp4 and webm files in the > transcript tool? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 30 May 2012 10:37, Fay Cross wrote: > > Hi Johnathan > > > > The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types. It will also > support the flvs that we currently use but these will obviously need flash > so won?t work on iPads etc. > > > > I have made a simple tool that will make a timed transcript files to go > with audio / video files ? I?ll send you it in a sec. > > > > Not sure about the best way to convert files at the moment though. > > > > Fay > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 May 2012 10:25 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith > project > > > > I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in > the next release of Xerte / XOT. > > > > I used Open Office so that > > a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy > > b) so that I could output in pdf format > > > > But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use > something like camstudio to create some demo videos. > > If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file > (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to > create alternative subtitles. > > > > So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith > project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had > considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to > go with it? > > > > If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that > any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. > > > > As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. > for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the > video / subtitles? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu May 31 15:31:11 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:31:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E252EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24ED7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24FC3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E252EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: That one looks like its a diatonic instrument. It reminds me of the various melodeons that my brother plays, though his are mostly two row. Kind regards Johnathan On 31 May 2012 08:50, Julian Tenney wrote: > Too many buttons on those big ?uns for me: I?ve always wanted one like > this though: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQm6Ufd9274 > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 31 May 2012 03:00 > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in > Xenith project > > > > > Is he controlling pitch etc from foot pedals? > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:26:18 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith > project > > Thank you Dave, > > > > Uwe Steiger is doing some fantastic things with the Roland V accordions > > > > http://youtu.be/DBQ20ikUBdQ > > > > So maybe there's a great future for the Accordion. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 30 May 2012 15:30, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > > > >It would be nice for the accordion to make a come back, so I guess every > little helps. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65EHG5wMu4 > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Kind regards Johnathan On 31 May 2012 03:00, Dave Burnett wrote: > > Is he controlling pitch etc from foot pedals? > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:26:18 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith > project > > Thank you Dave, > > Uwe Steiger is doing some fantastic things with the Roland V accordions > > http://youtu.be/DBQ20ikUBdQ > > So maybe there's a great future for the Accordion. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 30 May 2012 15:30, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > >It would be nice for the accordion to make a come back, so I guess every > little helps. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65EHG5wMu4 > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 31 15:45:19 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:45:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24ED7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E24FC3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E252EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF5E25773@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It is, it's basically a harmonica with bellows. They're quite expensive (good ones anyway) for something to have a go at. They are also loud, which was the problem the rest of my family had when I tried to learn to play the fiddle... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 31 May 2012 15:31 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project That one looks like its a diatonic instrument. It reminds me of the various melodeons that my brother plays, though his are mostly two row. Kind regards Johnathan On 31 May 2012 08:50, Julian Tenney > wrote: Too many buttons on those big 'uns for me: I've always wanted one like this though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQm6Ufd9274 From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 May 2012 03:00 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project Is he controlling pitch etc from foot pedals? ________________________________ Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:26:18 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project Thank you Dave, Uwe Steiger is doing some fantastic things with the Roland V accordions http://youtu.be/DBQ20ikUBdQ So maybe there's a great future for the Accordion. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 May 2012 15:30, Dave Burnett > wrote: >It would be nice for the accordion to make a come back, so I guess every little helps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65EHG5wMu4 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 31 May 2012 15:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project it's annoying. Yes it is. I think Opera and Firefox are restricting themselves to formats that are free from any software patents. I am pretty sure I will be able to convert from avi to flv somehow, I just need to look back at my notes to see what I used to do this before I retired. Kind regards Johnathan On 31 May 2012 09:07, Fay Cross > wrote: Hi Johnathan Yes, sorry I forgot to say the it only allows flvs and mp3 to be used at the moment - I should be able to change this to include mp4s too but for the moment is it possible for you to convert to flv to get your transcript file? Also, I listed the video file types you will be able to use in the HTML5 version but different browsers support different video types. For example, mp3/4 aren't supported in Firefox but will play in IE/Safari/Chrome/iOS while webm files will run on Firefox but not in Safari... it's annoying. Fay From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 May 2012 22:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project Hello Fay, The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types I am finally getting somewhere (I think), having created some test files using camstudio with the Xvid MPEG - codec. This still outputs in an avi wrapper. However I have found some free software that will convert it to both mp4 and webM. Both the files play when I open them in VLC media player. However when I installed Adobe Air and then installed the Transcript Tool (thank you for making that available) I was surprised to find that I could not load either the MP4 or webm files as neither format was recognised as being a media file. Yet when I open the VLC media player it appears to be filtering on media files and lists both mp4 and webm. Is this a windows issue or specific to the Transcript Tool? What, if anything, do I need to do to open mp4 and webm files in the transcript tool? Kind regards Johnathan On 30 May 2012 10:37, Fay Cross > wrote: Hi Johnathan The HTML5 version will support mp4, ogg and webm file types. It will also support the flvs that we currently use but these will obviously need flash so won't work on iPads etc. I have made a simple tool that will make a timed transcript files to go with audio / video files - I'll send you it in a sec. Not sure about the best way to convert files at the moment though. Fay From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 May 2012 10:25 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Video and subtitles from external file in Xenith project I have recently produced some documentation to support the new pages in the next release of Xerte / XOT. I used Open Office so that a) I could supply anyone who wanted to translate it with an editable copy b) so that I could output in pdf format But it occurred to me this morning that it might be useful to use something like camstudio to create some demo videos. If I left off any sound and used subtitles driven from an external file (are they subtitles or closed caption?) then it would enable translators to create alternative subtitles. So I was wondering if any decisions have been made regarding the Xenith project as to what video format would be best to use and if anyone had considered what format of subtitle / close caption file they would want to go with it? If I am going to have a go at this it makes sense (to me at least) that any end result should work with whatever results from the Xenith project. As a real long shot has anyone identified any free software products e.g. for generating the subtitle files, converting the video format, playing the video / subtitles? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Kind regards Johnathan On 30 May 2012 15:30, Dave Burnett wrote: >It would be nice for the accordion to make a come back, so I guess every little helps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65EHG5wMu4 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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