From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 09:57:09 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:57:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094015@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> We have the trunk, and 1.7 and 1.8. I thought trunk is what we were currently zipping up, so what's the best approach. I'm happy to press the buttons, but I'm not sure I have a lot of insight as to what's actually happening with the code... I'll re make all the templates stuff from the xerte SVN, so not worried about that, it's just the php stuff. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 February 2012 22:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release lets try and do this by the end of next week. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 29 February 2012 20:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release Do a diff across the two (I think tortoise has a branch or commit or merge or something). The logic is merge 1.7 into 1.8, expect 1.8 to then break (i would guess) Freeze 1.7 and then fix 1.8. Then 1.8 goes into trunk, and 1.9 is made for "developing" On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. > I'm not sure either. How do we resolve this? I don't see much need to change > anything o the web-app / php side from now on in, other than your sessions > idea, I'm not aware of anything being worked on. So we can start getting to > a good source now? > > ________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 29 February 2012 20:31 > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release > > > Would you keep selling caves on the San Andreas fault if you knew an > earthquake was imminent? > ;-) > > > >> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:28:47 +0000 >> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >> >> I think more I was saying, nothing is obsolete, you could live in a >> cave if you wanted to, but some people like doors, but doors need a >> little work. >> >> 1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> > As long as we're close, we can manage it. Thanks. >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >> > [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >> > Sent: 29 February 2012 15:13 >> > >> > To: For Xerte technical developers >> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >> > >> > It may be a bit tight to get all the Connector pages done by then but I >> > will >> > give it a go. If they arrive a few days later can I still sneak them in? >> > >> > Before I do any more on the routed pages I will finish off the work on >> > the >> > existing templates now that the work on the xwd is finished. >> > >> > The biggest issue I can see is the one of passing the name value from >> > the >> > xml data to be displayed as the page title and to populate the toc. Will >> > this all be done in the supporting swf files or will it be necessary to >> > alter the model files? >> > >> > Kind regards >> > >> > Johnathan >> > >> > On 29 February 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I >> >> reckon >> >> that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and pieces, and >> >> then, >> >> from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing what's there and >> >> putting >> >> that straight. The testing needs to complete by around 23rd (or more or >> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc. >> >> >> >> Is that OK with everyone? >> >> >> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing the >> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think hard >> >> about >> >> how to best manage any new functionality to the existing system whilst >> >> we >> >> develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand that says after >> >> this >> >> build, play_560 will have an example of every page template in it (this >> >> will >> >> be my contribution to the testing), and the html5 runtime will >> >> (eventually) >> >> handle every page type in the build. What's going to be hard is having >> >> people adding new templates whilst we try and replicate the >> >> functionality in >> >> the new stuff. >> >> >> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to the >> >> implications of where we are going, because at some point, the HTML5 >> >> runtime >> >> will become the primary delivery system, and we have to look to a >> >> future >> >> where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at all. Finger in the >> >> air, >> >> I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but maybe less. >> >> >> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to >> >> spend >> >> any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but will deal >> >> with >> >> it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I won't be looking >> >> to >> >> increase the number of templates in the main distribution. >> >> >> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some >> >> sensible >> >> framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it easy for >> >> developers >> >> to add new templates in the future. I still anticipate the xwd driving >> >> the >> >> wizard form, and therefore some xml payload being delivered to your >> >> code - >> >> somehow - for you to use to drive your templates, but we haven't even >> >> started to really think about that just yet. >> >> >> >> Thanks for all the work since September, >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Tenney Julian >> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04 >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >> >> >> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >> >> [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51 >> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >> >> >> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly >> >> serves >> >> to focus the mind. >> >> >> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I >> >> think >> >> still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or >> >> completed. I >> >> am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over management of the >> >> project. I just want to be sure that everything is covered, that there >> >> are >> >> no misunderstandings or differences in expectation, so that the project >> >> delivers on time. >> >> >> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as >> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for >> >> convenience. >> >> >> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel >> >> free >> >> to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to date on >> >> progress. >> >> >> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document >> >> accordingly in the svn. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> >> and >> >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 1 09:58:44 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:58:44 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094015@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: i've not committed anything bar 1.8 I guess the SVN shows changes? On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > We have the trunk, and 1.7 and 1.8. I thought trunk is what we were currently zipping up, so what's the best approach. > > I'm happy to press the buttons, but I'm not sure I have a lot of insight as to what's actually happening with the code... > > I'll re make all the templates stuff from the xerte SVN, so not worried about that, it's just the php stuff. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 29 February 2012 22:02 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release > > lets try and do this by the end of next week. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 29 February 2012 20:42 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release > > Do a diff across the two (I think tortoise has a branch or commit or > merge or something). > > The logic is merge 1.7 into 1.8, expect 1.8 to then break (i would guess) > > Freeze 1.7 and then fix 1.8. > > Then 1.8 goes into trunk, and 1.9 is made for "developing" > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >>>1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >> I'm not sure either. How do we resolve this? I don't see much need to change >> anything o the web-app / php side from now on in, other than your sessions >> idea, I'm not aware of anything being worked on. So we can start getting to >> a good source now? >> >> ________________________________ >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett >> [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] >> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:31 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >> >> >> Would you keep selling caves on the San Andreas fault if you knew an >> earthquake was imminent? >> ;-) >> >> >> >>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:28:47 +0000 >>> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>> >>> I think more I was saying, nothing is obsolete, you could live in a >>> cave if you wanted to, but some people like doors, but doors need a >>> little work. >>> >>> 1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> > As long as we're close, we can manage it. Thanks. >>> > >>> > ________________________________ >>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>> > [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>> > Sent: 29 February 2012 15:13 >>> > >>> > To: For Xerte technical developers >>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>> > >>> > It may be a bit tight to get all the Connector pages done by then but I >>> > will >>> > give it a go. If they arrive a few days later can I still sneak them in? >>> > >>> > Before I do any more on the routed pages I will finish off the work on >>> > the >>> > existing templates now that the work on the xwd is finished. >>> > >>> > The biggest issue I can see is the one of passing the name value from >>> > the >>> > xml data to be displayed as the page title and to populate the toc. Will >>> > this all be done in the supporting swf files or will it be necessary to >>> > alter the model files? >>> > >>> > Kind regards >>> > >>> > Johnathan >>> > >>> > On 29 February 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I >>> >> reckon >>> >> that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and pieces, and >>> >> then, >>> >> from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing what's there and >>> >> putting >>> >> that straight. The testing needs to complete by around 23rd (or more or >>> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc. >>> >> >>> >> Is that OK with everyone? >>> >> >>> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing the >>> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think hard >>> >> about >>> >> how to best manage any new functionality to the existing system whilst >>> >> we >>> >> develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand that says after >>> >> this >>> >> build, play_560 will have an example of every page template in it (this >>> >> will >>> >> be my contribution to the testing), and the html5 runtime will >>> >> (eventually) >>> >> handle every page type in the build. What's going to be hard is having >>> >> people adding new templates whilst we try and replicate the >>> >> functionality in >>> >> the new stuff. >>> >> >>> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to the >>> >> implications of where we are going, because at some point, the HTML5 >>> >> runtime >>> >> will become the primary delivery system, and we have to look to a >>> >> future >>> >> where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at all. Finger in the >>> >> air, >>> >> I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but maybe less. >>> >> >>> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to >>> >> spend >>> >> any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but will deal >>> >> with >>> >> it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I won't be looking >>> >> to >>> >> increase the number of templates in the main distribution. >>> >> >>> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some >>> >> sensible >>> >> framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it easy for >>> >> developers >>> >> to add new templates in the future. I still anticipate the xwd driving >>> >> the >>> >> wizard form, and therefore some xml payload being delivered to your >>> >> code - >>> >> somehow - for you to use to drive your templates, but we haven't even >>> >> started to really think about that just yet. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks for all the work since September, >>> >> >>> >> J >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Tenney Julian >>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04 >>> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>> >> >>> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant >>> >> ________________________________________ >>> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>> >> [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51 >>> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >>> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>> >> >>> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly >>> >> serves >>> >> to focus the mind. >>> >> >>> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I >>> >> think >>> >> still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or >>> >> completed. I >>> >> am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over management of the >>> >> project. I just want to be sure that everything is covered, that there >>> >> are >>> >> no misunderstandings or differences in expectation, so that the project >>> >> delivers on time. >>> >> >>> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as >>> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for >>> >> convenience. >>> >> >>> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel >>> >> free >>> >> to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to date on >>> >> progress. >>> >> >>> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document >>> >> accordingly in the svn. >>> >> >>> >> Kind regards >>> >> >>> >> Johnathan >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >> >>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> >> and >>> >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with >>> > the >>> > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>> > legislation. >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Xerte-dev mailing list >>> > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> > >>> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> > and >>> > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>> > in >>> > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 09:59:57 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:59:57 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094015@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> So I try and integrate 1.8 into trunk ad ignore 1.7? Or 1.7 into 1.8 and then 1.8 into trunk? Or all three into 1.81? Hmm. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 01 March 2012 09:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release i've not committed anything bar 1.8 I guess the SVN shows changes? On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > We have the trunk, and 1.7 and 1.8. I thought trunk is what we were currently zipping up, so what's the best approach. > > I'm happy to press the buttons, but I'm not sure I have a lot of insight as to what's actually happening with the code... > > I'll re make all the templates stuff from the xerte SVN, so not worried about that, it's just the php stuff. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 29 February 2012 22:02 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release > > lets try and do this by the end of next week. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 29 February 2012 20:42 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release > > Do a diff across the two (I think tortoise has a branch or commit or > merge or something). > > The logic is merge 1.7 into 1.8, expect 1.8 to then break (i would guess) > > Freeze 1.7 and then fix 1.8. > > Then 1.8 goes into trunk, and 1.9 is made for "developing" > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >>>1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >> I'm not sure either. How do we resolve this? I don't see much need to change >> anything o the web-app / php side from now on in, other than your sessions >> idea, I'm not aware of anything being worked on. So we can start getting to >> a good source now? >> >> ________________________________ >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett >> [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] >> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:31 >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >> >> >> Would you keep selling caves on the San Andreas fault if you knew an >> earthquake was imminent? >> ;-) >> >> >> >>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:28:47 +0000 >>> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>> >>> I think more I was saying, nothing is obsolete, you could live in a >>> cave if you wanted to, but some people like doors, but doors need a >>> little work. >>> >>> 1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> > As long as we're close, we can manage it. Thanks. >>> > >>> > ________________________________ >>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>> > [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>> > Sent: 29 February 2012 15:13 >>> > >>> > To: For Xerte technical developers >>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>> > >>> > It may be a bit tight to get all the Connector pages done by then but I >>> > will >>> > give it a go. If they arrive a few days later can I still sneak them in? >>> > >>> > Before I do any more on the routed pages I will finish off the work on >>> > the >>> > existing templates now that the work on the xwd is finished. >>> > >>> > The biggest issue I can see is the one of passing the name value from >>> > the >>> > xml data to be displayed as the page title and to populate the toc. Will >>> > this all be done in the supporting swf files or will it be necessary to >>> > alter the model files? >>> > >>> > Kind regards >>> > >>> > Johnathan >>> > >>> > On 29 February 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I >>> >> reckon >>> >> that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and pieces, and >>> >> then, >>> >> from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing what's there and >>> >> putting >>> >> that straight. The testing needs to complete by around 23rd (or more or >>> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc. >>> >> >>> >> Is that OK with everyone? >>> >> >>> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing the >>> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think hard >>> >> about >>> >> how to best manage any new functionality to the existing system whilst >>> >> we >>> >> develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand that says after >>> >> this >>> >> build, play_560 will have an example of every page template in it (this >>> >> will >>> >> be my contribution to the testing), and the html5 runtime will >>> >> (eventually) >>> >> handle every page type in the build. What's going to be hard is having >>> >> people adding new templates whilst we try and replicate the >>> >> functionality in >>> >> the new stuff. >>> >> >>> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to the >>> >> implications of where we are going, because at some point, the HTML5 >>> >> runtime >>> >> will become the primary delivery system, and we have to look to a >>> >> future >>> >> where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at all. Finger in the >>> >> air, >>> >> I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but maybe less. >>> >> >>> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to >>> >> spend >>> >> any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but will deal >>> >> with >>> >> it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I won't be looking >>> >> to >>> >> increase the number of templates in the main distribution. >>> >> >>> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some >>> >> sensible >>> >> framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it easy for >>> >> developers >>> >> to add new templates in the future. I still anticipate the xwd driving >>> >> the >>> >> wizard form, and therefore some xml payload being delivered to your >>> >> code - >>> >> somehow - for you to use to drive your templates, but we haven't even >>> >> started to really think about that just yet. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks for all the work since September, >>> >> >>> >> J >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Tenney Julian >>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04 >>> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>> >> >>> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant >>> >> ________________________________________ >>> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>> >> [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51 >>> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >>> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>> >> >>> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly >>> >> serves >>> >> to focus the mind. >>> >> >>> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I >>> >> think >>> >> still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or >>> >> completed. I >>> >> am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over management of the >>> >> project. I just want to be sure that everything is covered, that there >>> >> are >>> >> no misunderstandings or differences in expectation, so that the project >>> >> delivers on time. >>> >> >>> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as >>> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for >>> >> convenience. >>> >> >>> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel >>> >> free >>> >> to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to date on >>> >> progress. >>> >> >>> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document >>> >> accordingly in the svn. >>> >> >>> >> Kind regards >>> >> >>> >> Johnathan >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >> >>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> >> and >>> >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 1 10:05:36 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:05:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094015@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: i would guess 1.8 into 1.7 and 1.7 into trunk. 1.8 into 1.7 will be the bigger issue I'd also consider making release candidates before hand On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > So I try and integrate 1.8 into trunk ad ignore 1.7? Or 1.7 into 1.8 and then 1.8 into trunk? Or all three into 1.81? > > Hmm. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 09:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release > > i've not committed anything bar 1.8 > > I guess the SVN shows changes? > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> We have the trunk, and 1.7 and 1.8. I thought trunk is what we were currently zipping up, so what's the best approach. >> >> I'm happy to press the buttons, but I'm not sure I have a lot of insight as to what's actually happening with the code... >> >> I'll re make all the templates stuff from the xerte SVN, so not worried about that, it's just the php stuff. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 29 February 2012 22:02 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >> >> lets try and do this by the end of next week. >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:42 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >> >> Do a diff across the two (I think tortoise has a branch or commit or >> merge or something). >> >> The logic is merge 1.7 into 1.8, expect 1.8 to then break (i would guess) >> >> Freeze 1.7 and then fix 1.8. >> >> Then 1.8 goes into trunk, and 1.9 is made for "developing" >> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>>>1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>> I'm not sure either. How do we resolve this? I don't see much need to change >>> anything o the web-app / php side from now on in, other than your sessions >>> idea, I'm not aware of anything being worked on. So we can start getting to >>> a good source now? >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett >>> [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] >>> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:31 >>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>> >>> >>> Would you keep selling caves on the San Andreas fault if you knew an >>> earthquake was imminent? >>> ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:28:47 +0000 >>>> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>> >>>> I think more I was saying, nothing is obsolete, you could live in a >>>> cave if you wanted to, but some people like doors, but doors need a >>>> little work. >>>> >>>> 1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> > As long as we're close, we can manage it. Thanks. >>>> > >>>> > ________________________________ >>>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>>> > [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>>> > Sent: 29 February 2012 15:13 >>>> > >>>> > To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>> > >>>> > It may be a bit tight to get all the Connector pages done by then but I >>>> > will >>>> > give it a go. If they arrive a few days later can I still sneak them in? >>>> > >>>> > Before I do any more on the routed pages I will finish off the work on >>>> > the >>>> > existing templates now that the work on the xwd is finished. >>>> > >>>> > The biggest issue I can see is the one of passing the name value from >>>> > the >>>> > xml data to be displayed as the page title and to populate the toc. Will >>>> > this all be done in the supporting swf files or will it be necessary to >>>> > alter the model files? >>>> > >>>> > Kind regards >>>> > >>>> > Johnathan >>>> > >>>> > On 29 February 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney >>>> > >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi, >>>> >> >>>> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I >>>> >> reckon >>>> >> that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and pieces, and >>>> >> then, >>>> >> from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing what's there and >>>> >> putting >>>> >> that straight. The testing needs to complete by around 23rd (or more or >>>> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc. >>>> >> >>>> >> Is that OK with everyone? >>>> >> >>>> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing the >>>> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think hard >>>> >> about >>>> >> how to best manage any new functionality to the existing system whilst >>>> >> we >>>> >> develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand that says after >>>> >> this >>>> >> build, play_560 will have an example of every page template in it (this >>>> >> will >>>> >> be my contribution to the testing), and the html5 runtime will >>>> >> (eventually) >>>> >> handle every page type in the build. What's going to be hard is having >>>> >> people adding new templates whilst we try and replicate the >>>> >> functionality in >>>> >> the new stuff. >>>> >> >>>> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to the >>>> >> implications of where we are going, because at some point, the HTML5 >>>> >> runtime >>>> >> will become the primary delivery system, and we have to look to a >>>> >> future >>>> >> where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at all. Finger in the >>>> >> air, >>>> >> I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but maybe less. >>>> >> >>>> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to >>>> >> spend >>>> >> any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but will deal >>>> >> with >>>> >> it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I won't be looking >>>> >> to >>>> >> increase the number of templates in the main distribution. >>>> >> >>>> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some >>>> >> sensible >>>> >> framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it easy for >>>> >> developers >>>> >> to add new templates in the future. I still anticipate the xwd driving >>>> >> the >>>> >> wizard form, and therefore some xml payload being delivered to your >>>> >> code - >>>> >> somehow - for you to use to drive your templates, but we haven't even >>>> >> started to really think about that just yet. >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks for all the work since September, >>>> >> >>>> >> J >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>> >> From: Tenney Julian >>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04 >>>> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant >>>> >> ________________________________________ >>>> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>>> >> [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51 >>>> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >>>> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>>> >> >>>> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly >>>> >> serves >>>> >> to focus the mind. >>>> >> >>>> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I >>>> >> think >>>> >> still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or >>>> >> completed. I >>>> >> am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over management of the >>>> >> project. I just want to be sure that everything is covered, that there >>>> >> are >>>> >> no misunderstandings or differences in expectation, so that the project >>>> >> delivers on time. >>>> >> >>>> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as >>>> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for >>>> >> convenience. >>>> >> >>>> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel >>>> >> free >>>> >> to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to date on >>>> >> progress. >>>> >> >>>> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document >>>> >> accordingly in the svn. >>>> >> >>>> >> Kind regards >>>> >> >>>> >> Johnathan >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >> >>>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>> >> and >>>> >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 1 10:06:42 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:06:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Next version - XML or JSON Message-ID: Hello, Question about HTML 5 version - will it be based around the learning object as JSON, or the learning object as XML? Pat From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 10:07:35 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:07:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I was planning on hitting the existing xml_1234 links. But open minded. Why? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 01 March 2012 10:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Next version - XML or JSON Hello, Question about HTML 5 version - will it be based around the learning object as JSON, or the learning object as XML? Pat _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 1 10:13:33 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:13:33 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: developer types prefer JSON now On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I was planning on hitting the existing xml_1234 links. But open minded. > > Why? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 10:07 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Next version - XML or JSON > > Hello, > > Question about HTML 5 version - will it be based around the learning > object as JSON, or the learning object as XML? > > Pat > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 10:20:05 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:20:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Well, in Xerte it all gets turned into that faux object stuff anyway, so it's probably much the same: working with the xml directly is a pain, the xml2object stuff much easier, and probably gives something similar to a json result. The files are xml though, so we need to start with that. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 01 March 2012 10:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON developer types prefer JSON now On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I was planning on hitting the existing xml_1234 links. But open minded. > > Why? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 10:07 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Next version - XML or JSON > > Hello, > > Question about HTML 5 version - will it be based around the learning > object as JSON, or the learning object as XML? > > Pat > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 1 10:25:27 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:25:27 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: the faux object stuff might be easier if JSON'ed by default, as a tonne of JS libraries exist You could make a json_ page relatively easily On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Well, in Xerte it all gets turned into that faux object stuff anyway, so it's probably much the same: working with the xml directly is a pain, the xml2object stuff much easier, and probably gives something similar to a json result. The files are xml though, so we need to start with that. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 10:14 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON > > developer types prefer JSON now > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> I was planning on hitting the existing xml_1234 links. But open minded. >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 01 March 2012 10:07 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Next version - XML or JSON >> >> Hello, >> >> Question about HTML 5 version - will it be based around the learning >> object as JSON, or the learning object as XML? >> >> Pat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 10:28:10 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:28:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094317@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> And have that mangle the xml into json? Or start saving json out of the wizard? Some advantages with formatting / handling special characters down that route, but how to support existing templates? Do both? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 01 March 2012 10:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON the faux object stuff might be easier if JSON'ed by default, as a tonne of JS libraries exist You could make a json_ page relatively easily On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Well, in Xerte it all gets turned into that faux object stuff anyway, so it's probably much the same: working with the xml directly is a pain, the xml2object stuff much easier, and probably gives something similar to a json result. The files are xml though, so we need to start with that. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 10:14 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON > > developer types prefer JSON now > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> I was planning on hitting the existing xml_1234 links. But open minded. >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 01 March 2012 10:07 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Next version - XML or JSON >> >> Hello, >> >> Question about HTML 5 version - will it be based around the learning >> object as JSON, or the learning object as XML? >> >> Pat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 1 10:40:09 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:40:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094317@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094317@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Run a php XML to object call (relatively simple), then json_encode that (native function) then echo it out (or print). If you JSON'ed everything - then there are quite a lot of editors built for JSON editing, so you could get rid of flash altogether. How to migrate - same sort of process. Make it optional? I don't see json as directly enabling new page types, so it wouldn't alter the provision of pages, just how they are stored. I'd also wonder if it makes sense to write the new "player" solely within jQuery On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > And have that mangle the xml into json? > > Or start saving json out of the wizard? Some advantages with formatting / handling special characters down that route, but how to support existing templates? Do both? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 10:25 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON > > the faux object stuff might be easier if JSON'ed by default, as a > tonne of JS libraries exist > > You could make a json_ page relatively easily > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Well, in Xerte it all gets turned into that faux object stuff anyway, so it's probably much the same: working with the xml directly is a pain, the xml2object stuff much easier, and probably gives something similar to a json result. The files are xml though, so we need to start with that. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 01 March 2012 10:14 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON >> >> developer types prefer JSON now >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> I was planning on hitting the existing xml_1234 links. But open minded. >>> >>> Why? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 01 March 2012 10:07 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Next version - XML or JSON >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Question about HTML 5 version - will it be based around the learning >>> object as JSON, or the learning object as XML? >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Mar 1 11:31:20 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:31:20 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: another glossary question... In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <014201cce2b1$39c19b20$ad44d160$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <007c01ccf79e$d54787b0$7fd69710$@co.uk> Just revisiting this and have updated my files from svn, exported page templates to a new folder and testing with 3 items added to the glossary via LO properties. The terms and definitions are getting saved to the xml so that's not the problem. debugging items or item[i} during the loop shows the entries are correct but have added a title page and plain text page including the terms and neither show hyperlinks on the terms or do anything when clicked. Is there a dependency missing somewhere? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 06 February 2012 09:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: another glossary question... pop this in at the bottom of 'makePages' //glossary if (templateData.learningObject[0].glossary != undefined){ Glossary.enabled = true; items = templateData.learningObject[0].glossary.split('||'); for (i = 0; i < items.length; i++){ Glossary.addTerm(items[i].split('|')[0], items[i].split('|')[1]); } } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 03 February 2012 20:20 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] another glossary question... Hi Julian following on from the questions about glossary on the main list - I didn't want to confuse that thread so have posted here instead... Is the optional learning object icon glossary property in a xerte or XOT page templates project meant to be working? I've added that, added a few terms and also tried adding Glossry.enabled = true; to the .rlt but can't seem to get it to work. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 12:38:04 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:38:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094317@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA409446A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Jquery a candidate or a lot of the heavy lifting, yes. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 01 March 2012 10:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON Run a php XML to object call (relatively simple), then json_encode that (native function) then echo it out (or print). If you JSON'ed everything - then there are quite a lot of editors built for JSON editing, so you could get rid of flash altogether. How to migrate - same sort of process. Make it optional? I don't see json as directly enabling new page types, so it wouldn't alter the provision of pages, just how they are stored. I'd also wonder if it makes sense to write the new "player" solely within jQuery On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > And have that mangle the xml into json? > > Or start saving json out of the wizard? Some advantages with formatting / handling special characters down that route, but how to support existing templates? Do both? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 10:25 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON > > the faux object stuff might be easier if JSON'ed by default, as a > tonne of JS libraries exist > > You could make a json_ page relatively easily > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Well, in Xerte it all gets turned into that faux object stuff anyway, so it's probably much the same: working with the xml directly is a pain, the xml2object stuff much easier, and probably gives something similar to a json result. The files are xml though, so we need to start with that. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 01 March 2012 10:14 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next version - XML or JSON >> >> developer types prefer JSON now >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> I was planning on hitting the existing xml_1234 links. But open minded. >>> >>> Why? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 01 March 2012 10:07 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Next version - XML or JSON >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Question about HTML 5 version - will it be based around the learning >>> object as JSON, or the learning object as XML? >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 12:42:38 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:42:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: another glossary question... In-Reply-To: <007c01ccf79e$d54787b0$7fd69710$@co.uk> References: <014201cce2b1$39c19b20$ad44d160$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007c01ccf79e$d54787b0$7fd69710$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA409447B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> No, not that I can think of. I'd debug it in the engie and see what happens when the terms are met. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 01 March 2012 11:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: another glossary question... Just revisiting this and have updated my files from svn, exported page templates to a new folder and testing with 3 items added to the glossary via LO properties. The terms and definitions are getting saved to the xml so that's not the problem. debugging items or item[i} during the loop shows the entries are correct but have added a title page and plain text page including the terms and neither show hyperlinks on the terms or do anything when clicked. Is there a dependency missing somewhere? Cheers Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 06 February 2012 09:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: another glossary question... pop this in at the bottom of 'makePages' //glossary if (templateData.learningObject[0].glossary != undefined){ Glossary.enabled = true; items = templateData.learningObject[0].glossary.split('||'); for (i = 0; i < items.length; i++){ Glossary.addTerm(items[i].split('|')[0], items[i].split('|')[1]); } } From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 03 February 2012 20:20 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] another glossary question... Hi Julian following on from the questions about glossary on the main list - I didn't want to confuse that thread so have posted here instead... Is the optional learning object icon glossary property in a xerte or XOT page templates project meant to be working? I've added that, added a few terms and also tried adding Glossry.enabled = true; to the .rlt but can't seem to get it to work. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 13:13:17 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:13:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094015@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Does it matter which way you go - presumably it updates to the latest files in each repository. Can I mess this up? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 01 March 2012 10:06 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release i would guess 1.8 into 1.7 and 1.7 into trunk. 1.8 into 1.7 will be the bigger issue I'd also consider making release candidates before hand On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > So I try and integrate 1.8 into trunk ad ignore 1.7? Or 1.7 into 1.8 and then 1.8 into trunk? Or all three into 1.81? > > Hmm. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 09:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release > > i've not committed anything bar 1.8 > > I guess the SVN shows changes? > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> We have the trunk, and 1.7 and 1.8. I thought trunk is what we were currently zipping up, so what's the best approach. >> >> I'm happy to press the buttons, but I'm not sure I have a lot of insight as to what's actually happening with the code... >> >> I'll re make all the templates stuff from the xerte SVN, so not worried about that, it's just the php stuff. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 29 February 2012 22:02 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >> >> lets try and do this by the end of next week. >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:42 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >> >> Do a diff across the two (I think tortoise has a branch or commit or >> merge or something). >> >> The logic is merge 1.7 into 1.8, expect 1.8 to then break (i would guess) >> >> Freeze 1.7 and then fix 1.8. >> >> Then 1.8 goes into trunk, and 1.9 is made for "developing" >> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>>>1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>> I'm not sure either. How do we resolve this? I don't see much need to change >>> anything o the web-app / php side from now on in, other than your sessions >>> idea, I'm not aware of anything being worked on. So we can start getting to >>> a good source now? >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett >>> [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] >>> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:31 >>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>> >>> >>> Would you keep selling caves on the San Andreas fault if you knew an >>> earthquake was imminent? >>> ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:28:47 +0000 >>>> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>> >>>> I think more I was saying, nothing is obsolete, you could live in a >>>> cave if you wanted to, but some people like doors, but doors need a >>>> little work. >>>> >>>> 1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> > As long as we're close, we can manage it. Thanks. >>>> > >>>> > ________________________________ >>>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>>> > [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>>> > Sent: 29 February 2012 15:13 >>>> > >>>> > To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>> > >>>> > It may be a bit tight to get all the Connector pages done by then but I >>>> > will >>>> > give it a go. If they arrive a few days later can I still sneak them in? >>>> > >>>> > Before I do any more on the routed pages I will finish off the work on >>>> > the >>>> > existing templates now that the work on the xwd is finished. >>>> > >>>> > The biggest issue I can see is the one of passing the name value from >>>> > the >>>> > xml data to be displayed as the page title and to populate the toc. Will >>>> > this all be done in the supporting swf files or will it be necessary to >>>> > alter the model files? >>>> > >>>> > Kind regards >>>> > >>>> > Johnathan >>>> > >>>> > On 29 February 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney >>>> > >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi, >>>> >> >>>> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I >>>> >> reckon >>>> >> that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and pieces, and >>>> >> then, >>>> >> from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing what's there and >>>> >> putting >>>> >> that straight. The testing needs to complete by around 23rd (or more or >>>> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc. >>>> >> >>>> >> Is that OK with everyone? >>>> >> >>>> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing the >>>> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think hard >>>> >> about >>>> >> how to best manage any new functionality to the existing system whilst >>>> >> we >>>> >> develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand that says after >>>> >> this >>>> >> build, play_560 will have an example of every page template in it (this >>>> >> will >>>> >> be my contribution to the testing), and the html5 runtime will >>>> >> (eventually) >>>> >> handle every page type in the build. What's going to be hard is having >>>> >> people adding new templates whilst we try and replicate the >>>> >> functionality in >>>> >> the new stuff. >>>> >> >>>> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to the >>>> >> implications of where we are going, because at some point, the HTML5 >>>> >> runtime >>>> >> will become the primary delivery system, and we have to look to a >>>> >> future >>>> >> where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at all. Finger in the >>>> >> air, >>>> >> I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but maybe less. >>>> >> >>>> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to >>>> >> spend >>>> >> any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but will deal >>>> >> with >>>> >> it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I won't be looking >>>> >> to >>>> >> increase the number of templates in the main distribution. >>>> >> >>>> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some >>>> >> sensible >>>> >> framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it easy for >>>> >> developers >>>> >> to add new templates in the future. I still anticipate the xwd driving >>>> >> the >>>> >> wizard form, and therefore some xml payload being delivered to your >>>> >> code - >>>> >> somehow - for you to use to drive your templates, but we haven't even >>>> >> started to really think about that just yet. >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks for all the work since September, >>>> >> >>>> >> J >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>> >> From: Tenney Julian >>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04 >>>> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant >>>> >> ________________________________________ >>>> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>>> >> [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51 >>>> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >>>> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>>> >> >>>> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly >>>> >> serves >>>> >> to focus the mind. >>>> >> >>>> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I >>>> >> think >>>> >> still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or >>>> >> completed. I >>>> >> am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over management of the >>>> >> project. I just want to be sure that everything is covered, that there >>>> >> are >>>> >> no misunderstandings or differences in expectation, so that the project >>>> >> delivers on time. >>>> >> >>>> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as >>>> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for >>>> >> convenience. >>>> >> >>>> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel >>>> >> free >>>> >> to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to date on >>>> >> progress. >>>> >> >>>> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document >>>> >> accordingly in the svn. >>>> >> >>>> >> Kind regards >>>> >> >>>> >> Johnathan >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >> >>>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>> >> and >>>> >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 1 13:18:21 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:18:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094015@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: the age isn't relevant, it'll be the content clashing. I would export trunk, 1.7 and 1.8 first then do diffs across trunk and 1.7 merge the same files then see what is different, and accept those. Make that release candidate 1 test that (as that is "logic changes"). When that works Merge 1.7 into 1.8 this is "structural changes" test that. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Does it matter which way you go - presumably it updates to the latest files in each repository. > > Can I mess this up? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 10:06 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release > > i would guess 1.8 into 1.7 and 1.7 into trunk. > > 1.8 into 1.7 will be the bigger issue > > I'd also consider making release candidates before hand > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> So I try and integrate 1.8 into trunk ad ignore 1.7? Or 1.7 into 1.8 and then 1.8 into trunk? Or all three into 1.81? >> >> Hmm. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 01 March 2012 09:59 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >> >> i've not committed anything bar 1.8 >> >> I guess the SVN shows changes? >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> We have the trunk, and 1.7 and 1.8. I thought trunk is what we were currently zipping up, so what's the best approach. >>> >>> I'm happy to press the buttons, but I'm not sure I have a lot of insight as to what's actually happening with the code... >>> >>> I'll re make all the templates stuff from the xerte SVN, so not worried about that, it's just the php stuff. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>> Sent: 29 February 2012 22:02 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>> >>> lets try and do this by the end of next week. >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >>> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:42 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>> >>> Do a diff across the two (I think tortoise has a branch or commit or >>> merge or something). >>> >>> The logic is merge 1.7 into 1.8, expect 1.8 to then break (i would guess) >>> >>> Freeze 1.7 and then fix 1.8. >>> >>> Then 1.8 goes into trunk, and 1.9 is made for "developing" >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>>>1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>>> I'm not sure either. How do we resolve this? I don't see much need to change >>>> anything o the web-app / php side from now on in, other than your sessions >>>> idea, I'm not aware of anything being worked on. So we can start getting to >>>> a good source now? >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett >>>> [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] >>>> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:31 >>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>> >>>> >>>> Would you keep selling caves on the San Andreas fault if you knew an >>>> earthquake was imminent? >>>> ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:28:47 +0000 >>>>> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >>>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>>> >>>>> I think more I was saying, nothing is obsolete, you could live in a >>>>> cave if you wanted to, but some people like doors, but doors need a >>>>> little work. >>>>> >>>>> 1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > As long as we're close, we can manage it. Thanks. >>>>> > >>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>>>> > [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>>>> > Sent: 29 February 2012 15:13 >>>>> > >>>>> > To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>>> > >>>>> > It may be a bit tight to get all the Connector pages done by then but I >>>>> > will >>>>> > give it a go. If they arrive a few days later can I still sneak them in? >>>>> > >>>>> > Before I do any more on the routed pages I will finish off the work on >>>>> > the >>>>> > existing templates now that the work on the xwd is finished. >>>>> > >>>>> > The biggest issue I can see is the one of passing the name value from >>>>> > the >>>>> > xml data to be displayed as the page title and to populate the toc. Will >>>>> > this all be done in the supporting swf files or will it be necessary to >>>>> > alter the model files? >>>>> > >>>>> > Kind regards >>>>> > >>>>> > Johnathan >>>>> > >>>>> > On 29 February 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney >>>>> > >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I >>>>> >> reckon >>>>> >> that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and pieces, and >>>>> >> then, >>>>> >> from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing what's there and >>>>> >> putting >>>>> >> that straight. The testing needs to complete by around 23rd (or more or >>>>> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Is that OK with everyone? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing the >>>>> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think hard >>>>> >> about >>>>> >> how to best manage any new functionality to the existing system whilst >>>>> >> we >>>>> >> develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand that says after >>>>> >> this >>>>> >> build, play_560 will have an example of every page template in it (this >>>>> >> will >>>>> >> be my contribution to the testing), and the html5 runtime will >>>>> >> (eventually) >>>>> >> handle every page type in the build. What's going to be hard is having >>>>> >> people adding new templates whilst we try and replicate the >>>>> >> functionality in >>>>> >> the new stuff. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to the >>>>> >> implications of where we are going, because at some point, the HTML5 >>>>> >> runtime >>>>> >> will become the primary delivery system, and we have to look to a >>>>> >> future >>>>> >> where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at all. Finger in the >>>>> >> air, >>>>> >> I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but maybe less. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to >>>>> >> spend >>>>> >> any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but will deal >>>>> >> with >>>>> >> it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I won't be looking >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> increase the number of templates in the main distribution. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some >>>>> >> sensible >>>>> >> framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it easy for >>>>> >> developers >>>>> >> to add new templates in the future. I still anticipate the xwd driving >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> wizard form, and therefore some xml payload being delivered to your >>>>> >> code - >>>>> >> somehow - for you to use to drive your templates, but we haven't even >>>>> >> started to really think about that just yet. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks for all the work since September, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> J >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >> From: Tenney Julian >>>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04 >>>>> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant >>>>> >> ________________________________________ >>>>> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>>>> >> [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51 >>>>> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >>>>> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly >>>>> >> serves >>>>> >> to focus the mind. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I >>>>> >> think >>>>> >> still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or >>>>> >> completed. I >>>>> >> am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over management of the >>>>> >> project. I just want to be sure that everything is covered, that there >>>>> >> are >>>>> >> no misunderstandings or differences in expectation, so that the project >>>>> >> delivers on time. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as >>>>> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for >>>>> >> convenience. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel >>>>> >> free >>>>> >> to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to date on >>>>> >> progress. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document >>>>> >> accordingly in the svn. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Kind regards >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Johnathan >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >> >>>>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>> >> and >>>>> >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 13:19:14 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:19:14 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094015@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Why export? Why can't the svn handle it? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 01 March 2012 13:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release the age isn't relevant, it'll be the content clashing. I would export trunk, 1.7 and 1.8 first then do diffs across trunk and 1.7 merge the same files then see what is different, and accept those. Make that release candidate 1 test that (as that is "logic changes"). When that works Merge 1.7 into 1.8 this is "structural changes" test that. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Does it matter which way you go - presumably it updates to the latest files in each repository. > > Can I mess this up? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 10:06 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release > > i would guess 1.8 into 1.7 and 1.7 into trunk. > > 1.8 into 1.7 will be the bigger issue > > I'd also consider making release candidates before hand > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> So I try and integrate 1.8 into trunk ad ignore 1.7? Or 1.7 into 1.8 and then 1.8 into trunk? Or all three into 1.81? >> >> Hmm. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 01 March 2012 09:59 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >> >> i've not committed anything bar 1.8 >> >> I guess the SVN shows changes? >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> We have the trunk, and 1.7 and 1.8. I thought trunk is what we were currently zipping up, so what's the best approach. >>> >>> I'm happy to press the buttons, but I'm not sure I have a lot of insight as to what's actually happening with the code... >>> >>> I'll re make all the templates stuff from the xerte SVN, so not worried about that, it's just the php stuff. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>> Sent: 29 February 2012 22:02 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>> >>> lets try and do this by the end of next week. >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >>> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:42 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>> >>> Do a diff across the two (I think tortoise has a branch or commit or >>> merge or something). >>> >>> The logic is merge 1.7 into 1.8, expect 1.8 to then break (i would guess) >>> >>> Freeze 1.7 and then fix 1.8. >>> >>> Then 1.8 goes into trunk, and 1.9 is made for "developing" >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>>>1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>>> I'm not sure either. How do we resolve this? I don't see much need to change >>>> anything o the web-app / php side from now on in, other than your sessions >>>> idea, I'm not aware of anything being worked on. So we can start getting to >>>> a good source now? >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett >>>> [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] >>>> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:31 >>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>> >>>> >>>> Would you keep selling caves on the San Andreas fault if you knew an >>>> earthquake was imminent? >>>> ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:28:47 +0000 >>>>> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >>>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>>> >>>>> I think more I was saying, nothing is obsolete, you could live in a >>>>> cave if you wanted to, but some people like doors, but doors need a >>>>> little work. >>>>> >>>>> 1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > As long as we're close, we can manage it. Thanks. >>>>> > >>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>>>> > [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>>>> > Sent: 29 February 2012 15:13 >>>>> > >>>>> > To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>>> > >>>>> > It may be a bit tight to get all the Connector pages done by then but I >>>>> > will >>>>> > give it a go. If they arrive a few days later can I still sneak them in? >>>>> > >>>>> > Before I do any more on the routed pages I will finish off the work on >>>>> > the >>>>> > existing templates now that the work on the xwd is finished. >>>>> > >>>>> > The biggest issue I can see is the one of passing the name value from >>>>> > the >>>>> > xml data to be displayed as the page title and to populate the toc. Will >>>>> > this all be done in the supporting swf files or will it be necessary to >>>>> > alter the model files? >>>>> > >>>>> > Kind regards >>>>> > >>>>> > Johnathan >>>>> > >>>>> > On 29 February 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney >>>>> > >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I >>>>> >> reckon >>>>> >> that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and pieces, and >>>>> >> then, >>>>> >> from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing what's there and >>>>> >> putting >>>>> >> that straight. The testing needs to complete by around 23rd (or more or >>>>> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Is that OK with everyone? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing the >>>>> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think hard >>>>> >> about >>>>> >> how to best manage any new functionality to the existing system whilst >>>>> >> we >>>>> >> develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand that says after >>>>> >> this >>>>> >> build, play_560 will have an example of every page template in it (this >>>>> >> will >>>>> >> be my contribution to the testing), and the html5 runtime will >>>>> >> (eventually) >>>>> >> handle every page type in the build. What's going to be hard is having >>>>> >> people adding new templates whilst we try and replicate the >>>>> >> functionality in >>>>> >> the new stuff. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to the >>>>> >> implications of where we are going, because at some point, the HTML5 >>>>> >> runtime >>>>> >> will become the primary delivery system, and we have to look to a >>>>> >> future >>>>> >> where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at all. Finger in the >>>>> >> air, >>>>> >> I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but maybe less. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to >>>>> >> spend >>>>> >> any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but will deal >>>>> >> with >>>>> >> it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I won't be looking >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> increase the number of templates in the main distribution. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some >>>>> >> sensible >>>>> >> framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it easy for >>>>> >> developers >>>>> >> to add new templates in the future. I still anticipate the xwd driving >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> wizard form, and therefore some xml payload being delivered to your >>>>> >> code - >>>>> >> somehow - for you to use to drive your templates, but we haven't even >>>>> >> started to really think about that just yet. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks for all the work since September, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> J >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >> From: Tenney Julian >>>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04 >>>>> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant >>>>> >> ________________________________________ >>>>> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>>>> >> [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51 >>>>> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >>>>> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly >>>>> >> serves >>>>> >> to focus the mind. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I >>>>> >> think >>>>> >> still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or >>>>> >> completed. I >>>>> >> am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over management of the >>>>> >> project. I just want to be sure that everything is covered, that there >>>>> >> are >>>>> >> no misunderstandings or differences in expectation, so that the project >>>>> >> delivers on time. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as >>>>> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for >>>>> >> convenience. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel >>>>> >> free >>>>> >> to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to date on >>>>> >> progress. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document >>>>> >> accordingly in the svn. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Kind regards >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Johnathan >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >> >>>>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>> >> and >>>>> >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 1 13:22:22 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:22:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094015@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BD9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40942D8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: SVN could handle it, i'd export so I knew I had a copy. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Why export? Why can't the svn handle it? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 13:18 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release > > the age isn't relevant, it'll be the content clashing. > > I would export trunk, 1.7 and 1.8 first > then do diffs across trunk and 1.7 > merge the same files > > then see what is different, and accept those. > > Make that release candidate 1 > > test that (as that is "logic changes"). > > When that works > > Merge 1.7 into 1.8 > > this is "structural changes" > > test that. > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Does it matter which way you go - presumably it updates to the latest files in each repository. >> >> Can I mess this up? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 01 March 2012 10:06 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >> >> i would guess 1.8 into 1.7 and 1.7 into trunk. >> >> 1.8 into 1.7 will be the bigger issue >> >> I'd also consider making release candidates before hand >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> So I try and integrate 1.8 into trunk ad ignore 1.7? Or 1.7 into 1.8 and then 1.8 into trunk? Or all three into 1.81? >>> >>> Hmm. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 01 March 2012 09:59 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>> >>> i've not committed anything bar 1.8 >>> >>> I guess the SVN shows changes? >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>> We have the trunk, and 1.7 and 1.8. I thought trunk is what we were currently zipping up, so what's the best approach. >>>> >>>> I'm happy to press the buttons, but I'm not sure I have a lot of insight as to what's actually happening with the code... >>>> >>>> I'll re make all the templates stuff from the xerte SVN, so not worried about that, it's just the php stuff. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>>> Sent: 29 February 2012 22:02 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>> >>>> lets try and do this by the end of next week. >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >>>> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:42 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>> >>>> Do a diff across the two (I think tortoise has a branch or commit or >>>> merge or something). >>>> >>>> The logic is merge 1.7 into 1.8, expect 1.8 to then break (i would guess) >>>> >>>> Freeze 1.7 and then fix 1.8. >>>> >>>> Then 1.8 goes into trunk, and 1.9 is made for "developing" >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>>>>1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>>>> I'm not sure either. How do we resolve this? I don't see much need to change >>>>> anything o the web-app / php side from now on in, other than your sessions >>>>> idea, I'm not aware of anything being worked on. So we can start getting to >>>>> a good source now? >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett >>>>> [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] >>>>> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:31 >>>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Would you keep selling caves on the San Andreas fault if you knew an >>>>> earthquake was imminent? >>>>> ;-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:28:47 +0000 >>>>>> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >>>>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>>>> >>>>>> I think more I was saying, nothing is obsolete, you could live in a >>>>>> cave if you wanted to, but some people like doors, but doors need a >>>>>> little work. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > As long as we're close, we can manage it. Thanks. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>>>>> > [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>>>>> > Sent: 29 February 2012 15:13 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release >>>>>> > >>>>>> > It may be a bit tight to get all the Connector pages done by then but I >>>>>> > will >>>>>> > give it a go. If they arrive a few days later can I still sneak them in? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Before I do any more on the routed pages I will finish off the work on >>>>>> > the >>>>>> > existing templates now that the work on the xwd is finished. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > The biggest issue I can see is the one of passing the name value from >>>>>> > the >>>>>> > xml data to be displayed as the page title and to populate the toc. Will >>>>>> > this all be done in the supporting swf files or will it be necessary to >>>>>> > alter the model files? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Kind regards >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Johnathan >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 29 February 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney >>>>>> > >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Hi, >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I >>>>>> >> reckon >>>>>> >> that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and pieces, and >>>>>> >> then, >>>>>> >> from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing what's there and >>>>>> >> putting >>>>>> >> that straight. The testing needs to complete by around 23rd (or more or >>>>>> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Is that OK with everyone? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing the >>>>>> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think hard >>>>>> >> about >>>>>> >> how to best manage any new functionality to the existing system whilst >>>>>> >> we >>>>>> >> develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand that says after >>>>>> >> this >>>>>> >> build, play_560 will have an example of every page template in it (this >>>>>> >> will >>>>>> >> be my contribution to the testing), and the html5 runtime will >>>>>> >> (eventually) >>>>>> >> handle every page type in the build. What's going to be hard is having >>>>>> >> people adding new templates whilst we try and replicate the >>>>>> >> functionality in >>>>>> >> the new stuff. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to the >>>>>> >> implications of where we are going, because at some point, the HTML5 >>>>>> >> runtime >>>>>> >> will become the primary delivery system, and we have to look to a >>>>>> >> future >>>>>> >> where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at all. Finger in the >>>>>> >> air, >>>>>> >> I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but maybe less. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to >>>>>> >> spend >>>>>> >> any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but will deal >>>>>> >> with >>>>>> >> it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I won't be looking >>>>>> >> to >>>>>> >> increase the number of templates in the main distribution. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some >>>>>> >> sensible >>>>>> >> framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it easy for >>>>>> >> developers >>>>>> >> to add new templates in the future. I still anticipate the xwd driving >>>>>> >> the >>>>>> >> wizard form, and therefore some xml payload being delivered to your >>>>>> >> code - >>>>>> >> somehow - for you to use to drive your templates, but we haven't even >>>>>> >> started to really think about that just yet. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Thanks for all the work since September, >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> J >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >> From: Tenney Julian >>>>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04 >>>>>> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant >>>>>> >> ________________________________________ >>>>>> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >>>>>> >> [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >>>>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51 >>>>>> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >>>>>> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly >>>>>> >> serves >>>>>> >> to focus the mind. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I >>>>>> >> think >>>>>> >> still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or >>>>>> >> completed. I >>>>>> >> am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over management of the >>>>>> >> project. I just want to be sure that everything is covered, that there >>>>>> >> are >>>>>> >> no misunderstandings or differences in expectation, so that the project >>>>>> >> delivers on time. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as >>>>>> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for >>>>>> >> convenience. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel >>>>>> >> free >>>>>> >> to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to date on >>>>>> >> progress. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document >>>>>> >> accordingly in the svn. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Kind regards >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Johnathan >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> >> and >>>>>> >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 13:26:50 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:26:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] SVN Versions Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Why do we have 1.7? Wasn't that the one we took back into the trunk, and then developed in 1.8? So if I merge 1.8 into trunk we are where we want to be? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 1 13:27:55 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:27:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SVN Versions In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: no idea, commits will tell you On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Why do we have 1.7? Wasn?t that the one we took back into the trunk, and > then developed in 1.8? > > > > So if I merge 1.8 into trunk we are where we want to be? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 13:28:24 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:28:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SVN Versions In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Ok, I'm just gonna hiot the buttons. Can always go back. Right? What could go wrong. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 01 March 2012 13:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SVN Versions no idea, commits will tell you On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Why do we have 1.7? Wasn't that the one we took back into the trunk, and > then developed in 1.8? > > > > So if I merge 1.8 into trunk we are where we want to be? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu Mar 1 13:35:03 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:35:03 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SVN Versions In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <21582E37-A099-4E7F-A7D0-A8FBAA1A2602@palepurple.co.uk> On 1 Mar 2012, at 13:26, Julian Tenney wrote: > Why do we have 1.7? Wasn?t that the one we took back into the trunk, and then developed in 1.8? Normally ?. Your development would take place in trunk; over time someone like yourself Julian would decide that it's time for a new release - you'd create a branch - e.g. 1.7, and then test/work on it - probably merging many changes back to trunk. This would allow your busy team of developers to continue messing around in trunk, while 1.7 stabilised. Eventually 1.7 would be released, and perhaps over time you'd make minor bug fixes to it and have e.g. 1.7.1, 1.7.2 and so on. From memory, I think I merged most of the changes I made to 1.7 also into trunk - so there shouldn't be much that's different - but I've already forgotten what's where with respect to 1.7 and trunk. I think 1.8 had the internationalisation stuff - merging that with anything will be difficult as the changes are a lot greater. Yes, you can always revert, so there's nothing to worry about - until you start issuing 'svn commit's. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 13:40:28 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:40:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SVN Versions In-Reply-To: <21582E37-A099-4E7F-A7D0-A8FBAA1A2602@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <21582E37-A099-4E7F-A7D0-A8FBAA1A2602@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944FD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think you did, 1.7 only had a few files different to trunk, and I let it roll. Just doing 1.8 now, then I'll commit the trunk, and we should have something to test. Or the world will end. One or the other. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 01 March 2012 13:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SVN Versions On 1 Mar 2012, at 13:26, Julian Tenney wrote: Why do we have 1.7? Wasn't that the one we took back into the trunk, and then developed in 1.8? Normally .... Your development would take place in trunk; over time someone like yourself Julian would decide that it's time for a new release - you'd create a branch - e.g. 1.7, and then test/work on it - probably merging many changes back to trunk. This would allow your busy team of developers to continue messing around in trunk, while 1.7 stabilised. Eventually 1.7 would be released, and perhaps over time you'd make minor bug fixes to it and have e.g. 1.7.1, 1.7.2 and so on. >From memory, I think I merged most of the changes I made to 1.7 also into trunk - so there shouldn't be much that's different - but I've already forgotten what's where with respect to 1.7 and trunk. I think 1.8 had the internationalisation stuff - merging that with anything will be difficult as the changes are a lot greater. Yes, you can always revert, so there's nothing to worry about - until you start issuing 'svn commit's. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 13:56:40 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:56:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SVN Versions In-Reply-To: <21582E37-A099-4E7F-A7D0-A8FBAA1A2602@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40944DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <21582E37-A099-4E7F-A7D0-A8FBAA1A2602@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA409452D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, I took 18 in and took the 1.8 files over the trunk files when conflicts popped up (which was a lot, pretty much every PHP file) From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 01 March 2012 13:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SVN Versions On 1 Mar 2012, at 13:26, Julian Tenney wrote: Why do we have 1.7? Wasn't that the one we took back into the trunk, and then developed in 1.8? Normally .... Your development would take place in trunk; over time someone like yourself Julian would decide that it's time for a new release - you'd create a branch - e.g. 1.7, and then test/work on it - probably merging many changes back to trunk. This would allow your busy team of developers to continue messing around in trunk, while 1.7 stabilised. Eventually 1.7 would be released, and perhaps over time you'd make minor bug fixes to it and have e.g. 1.7.1, 1.7.2 and so on. >From memory, I think I merged most of the changes I made to 1.7 also into trunk - so there shouldn't be much that's different - but I've already forgotten what's where with respect to 1.7 and trunk. I think 1.8 had the internationalisation stuff - merging that with anything will be difficult as the changes are a lot greater. Yes, you can always revert, so there's nothing to worry about - until you start issuing 'svn commit's. David. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 01 March 2012 13:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SVN Versions On 1 Mar 2012, at 13:26, Julian Tenney wrote: Why do we have 1.7? Wasn't that the one we took back into the trunk, and then developed in 1.8? Normally .... Your development would take place in trunk; over time someone like yourself Julian would decide that it's time for a new release - you'd create a branch - e.g. 1.7, and then test/work on it - probably merging many changes back to trunk. This would allow your busy team of developers to continue messing around in trunk, while 1.7 stabilised. Eventually 1.7 would be released, and perhaps over time you'd make minor bug fixes to it and have e.g. 1.7.1, 1.7.2 and so on. >From memory, I think I merged most of the changes I made to 1.7 also into trunk - so there shouldn't be much that's different - but I've already forgotten what's where with respect to 1.7 and trunk. I think 1.8 had the internationalisation stuff - merging that with anything will be difficult as the changes are a lot greater. Yes, you can always revert, so there's nothing to worry about - until you start issuing 'svn commit's. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 01 March 2012 15:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] SVN Trunk The trunk is the set of files to sort out now. First issue is that we get the blank screen again, following an xampp install, so I'm a bit stuck. Can you have a look please and see what's wrong, and whether there are issues with what I've just done in the svn. Many thanks, Julian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 1 16:26:35 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:26:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of commits. Nothing since. I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to anything other than 1.8). The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 > conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of > conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score > is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don?t. > > > > I?m guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 18:29:28 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:29:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> What do you suggest we do then? Wecan wind the svns back no problem, but these aren't my changes so I'm unsure how best to proceed. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 01 March 2012 16:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of commits. Nothing since. I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to anything other than 1.8). The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 > conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of > conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score > is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don?t. > > > > I?m guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 19:04:45 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 19:04:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The files in trunk ought to basically be the 1.8 files. The trunk can be reverted to the state it was in earlier, and I haven't changed anything in 1.7 or 1.8. The 1.8 files don't work when I export them and try them in xampp. When I tried to merge 1.8 into trunk, there were conflicting changes on most of the PHP files, so I accepted the 'repository' option, which I took to mean the files from 1.8. If all those conflicts need manually resolving, I'm not the right man to do it... ________________________________________ I did see reference to __file__ in index.php which didn't seem right. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 01 March 2012 18:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files What do you suggest we do then? Wecan wind the svns back no problem, but these aren't my changes so I'm unsure how best to proceed. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 01 March 2012 16:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of commits. Nothing since. I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to anything other than 1.8). The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 > conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of > conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score > is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don?t. > > > > I?m guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu Mar 1 19:32:17 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 19:32:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 1 Mar 2012, at 19:04, Julian Tenney wrote: > The files in trunk ought to basically be the 1.8 files. The trunk can be reverted to the state it was in earlier, and I haven't changed anything in 1.7 or 1.8. The 1.8 files don't work when I export them and try them in xampp. When I tried to merge 1.8 into trunk, there were conflicting changes on most of the PHP files, so I accepted the 'repository' option, which I took to mean the files from 1.8. If all those conflicts need manually resolving, I'm not the right man to do it... > ________________________________________ > > I did see reference to __file__ in index.php which didn't seem right. __FILE__ is fine/not a problem. I use it all the time when require/including files, as it bypasses any problems you might have with weird include paths, or files of the same name also in your include path elsewhere. __file__ is (i think) nonsense. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 08:42:30 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 08:42:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. This is the bit I'm confused at. Why should it need to be done again? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 01 March 2012 16:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of commits. Nothing since. I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to anything other than 1.8). The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 > conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of > conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score > is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don't. > > > > I'm guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Mar 2 09:09:03 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:09:03 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <005588D5-18D6-41E5-B433-2EBA7FD751F8@googlemail.com> Not again as a per file action, but again as a task On 2 Mar 2012, at 08:42, Julian Tenney wrote: >> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. > > This is the bit I'm confused at. Why should it need to be done again? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 16:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files > > I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes > that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of > commits. Nothing since. > > I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to > anything other than 1.8). > > The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference > will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen > on doing it again. > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 >> conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of >> conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score >> is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don't. >> >> >> >> I'm guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Mar 2 09:33:18 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 10:33:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F5093DE.4070008@tor.nl> Julian, Just a question, did you checkout trunk and than tried to merge in (svn merge) 1.8, or did you checkout trunk, checkout 1.8 and tried to figure out the diffs? What is the current state of trunk? Did you already (try) to commit changes? Op 2-3-2012 9:42, Julian Tenney schreef: >> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. > This is the bit I'm confused at. Why should it need to be done again? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 16:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files > > I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes > that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of > commits. Nothing since. > > I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to > anything other than 1.8). > > The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference > will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen > on doing it again. > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 >> conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of >> conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score >> is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don't. >> >> >> >> I'm guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 09:38:44 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:38:44 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: <4F5093DE.4070008@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F5093DE.4070008@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094803@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I updated everything to have the latest files. I merged 1.7 into trunk. Commited that. Merged 1.8 into trunk. Accepted 'use repository' as the option for conflicts (thinking this would use the files from 1.8 over the files in trunk). Commited that - that's where we are now. Did nothing to try and resolve conflicts. Pretty much every php file conflicted, which puzzled me a bit. If you want to go back to square one, revert trunk to r260. Nothing should have changed in 1.8 or 1.7. It's the web application to worry about: don't worry about anything about templates, .rlms xmlengine, all that stuff. I can add all that in confidently. Thanks, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 02 March 2012 09:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files Julian, Just a question, did you checkout trunk and than tried to merge in (svn merge) 1.8, or did you checkout trunk, checkout 1.8 and tried to figure out the diffs? What is the current state of trunk? Did you already (try) to commit changes? Op 2-3-2012 9:42, Julian Tenney schreef: >> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. > This is the bit I'm confused at. Why should it need to be done again? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 16:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files > > I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes > that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of > commits. Nothing since. > > I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to > anything other than 1.8). > > The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference > will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen > on doing it again. > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 >> conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of >> conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score >> is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don't. >> >> >> >> I'm guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 09:54:46 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:54:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: <005588D5-18D6-41E5-B433-2EBA7FD751F8@googlemail.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005588D5-18D6-41E5-B433-2EBA7FD751F8@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA409483F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK. I think this is what I was trying to do! Was it your opinion that the 1.8 files worked? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 March 2012 09:09 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files Not again as a per file action, but again as a task On 2 Mar 2012, at 08:42, Julian Tenney wrote: >> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. > > This is the bit I'm confused at. Why should it need to be done again? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 01 March 2012 16:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files > > I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes > that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of > commits. Nothing since. > > I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to > anything other than 1.8). > > The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference > will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen > on doing it again. > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 >> conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of >> conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score >> is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don't. >> >> >> >> I'm guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Mar 2 10:32:52 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:32:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA409483F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005588D5-18D6-41E5-B433-2EBA7FD751F8@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA409483F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8D9D3032-031F-45F1-B52E-0D6535F800CC@googlemail.com> They worked for me on my install On 2 Mar 2012, at 09:54, Julian Tenney wrote: > OK. I think this is what I was trying to do! > > Was it your opinion that the 1.8 files worked? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 March 2012 09:09 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files > > Not again as a per file action, but again as a task > > On 2 Mar 2012, at 08:42, Julian Tenney wrote: > >>> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. >> >> This is the bit I'm confused at. Why should it need to be done again? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 01 March 2012 16:27 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files >> >> I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes >> that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of >> commits. Nothing since. >> >> I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to >> anything other than 1.8). >> >> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference >> will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen >> on doing it again. >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 >>> conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of >>> conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score >>> is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don't. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 10:40:07 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:40:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: <8D9D3032-031F-45F1-B52E-0D6535F800CC@googlemail.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005588D5-18D6-41E5-B433-2EBA7FD751F8@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA409483F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8D9D3032-031F-45F1-B52E-0D6535F800CC@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40948BE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Do they still? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 March 2012 10:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files They worked for me on my install On 2 Mar 2012, at 09:54, Julian Tenney wrote: > OK. I think this is what I was trying to do! > > Was it your opinion that the 1.8 files worked? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 March 2012 09:09 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files > > Not again as a per file action, but again as a task > > On 2 Mar 2012, at 08:42, Julian Tenney wrote: > >>> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. >> >> This is the bit I'm confused at. Why should it need to be done again? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 01 March 2012 16:27 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files >> >> I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes >> that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of >> commits. Nothing since. >> >> I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to >> anything other than 1.8). >> >> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference >> will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen >> on doing it again. >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 >>> conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of >>> conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score >>> is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don't. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Mar 2 10:42:53 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:42:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40948BE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005588D5-18D6-41E5-B433-2EBA7FD751F8@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA409483F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8D9D3032-031F-45F1-B52E-0D6535F800CC@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40948BE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: i've not had time to test yet On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Do they still? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 March 2012 10:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files > > They worked for me on my install > > On 2 Mar 2012, at 09:54, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> OK. I think ?this is what I was trying to do! >> >> Was it your opinion that the 1.8 files worked? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 02 March 2012 09:09 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files >> >> Not again as a per file action, but again as a task >> >> On 2 Mar 2012, at 08:42, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >>>> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. >>> >>> This is the bit I'm confused at. Why should it need to be done again? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 01 March 2012 16:27 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files >>> >>> I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes >>> that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of >>> commits. Nothing since. >>> >>> I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to >>> anything other than 1.8). >>> >>> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference >>> will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen >>> on doing it again. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>> Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 >>>> conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of >>>> conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score >>>> is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don't. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 10:49:56 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:49:56 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005588D5-18D6-41E5-B433-2EBA7FD751F8@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA409483F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8D9D3032-031F-45F1-B52E-0D6535F800CC@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40948BE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40948DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, no worries. When did you commit all the changes to the php for the language stuff? I can't see the files changing in any of the logs? You committed them to 1.8? Was it the commit commented "1.7 merged into 1.8?" Your later commits didn't change anything very much, so I assume so. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 March 2012 10:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files i've not had time to test yet On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Do they still? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 March 2012 10:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files > > They worked for me on my install > > On 2 Mar 2012, at 09:54, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> OK. I think ?this is what I was trying to do! >> >> Was it your opinion that the 1.8 files worked? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 02 March 2012 09:09 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files >> >> Not again as a per file action, but again as a task >> >> On 2 Mar 2012, at 08:42, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >>>> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. >>> >>> This is the bit I'm confused at. Why should it need to be done again? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 01 March 2012 16:27 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files >>> >>> I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes >>> that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of >>> commits. Nothing since. >>> >>> I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to >>> anything other than 1.8). >>> >>> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference >>> will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen >>> on doing it again. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>> Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 >>>> conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of >>>> conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score >>>> is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don't. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Mar 2 10:51:40 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:51:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40948DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094516@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4094778@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005588D5-18D6-41E5-B433-2EBA7FD751F8@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA409483F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8D9D3032-031F-45F1-B52E-0D6535F800CC@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40948BE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA40948DC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: i think i made the 1.8 tag / branch, and then made one commit for that then one more commit when I merged 1.7 into 1.8 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > OK, no worries. When did you commit all the changes to the php for the language stuff? I can't see the files changing in any of the logs? You committed them to 1.8? Was it the commit commented "1.7 merged into 1.8?" Your later commits didn't change anything very much, so I assume so. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 March 2012 10:43 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files > > i've not had time to test yet > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Do they still? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 02 March 2012 10:33 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files >> >> They worked for me on my install >> >> On 2 Mar 2012, at 09:54, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >>> OK. I think ?this is what I was trying to do! >>> >>> Was it your opinion that the 1.8 files worked? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 02 March 2012 09:09 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files >>> >>> Not again as a per file action, but again as a task >>> >>> On 2 Mar 2012, at 08:42, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> >>>>> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen on doing it again. >>>> >>>> This is the bit I'm confused at. Why should it need to be done again? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 01 March 2012 16:27 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 files >>>> >>>> I made one big submission for 1.8, and then copied over the changes >>>> that had happened in between. So 1.8 should have two blocks of >>>> commits. Nothing since. >>>> >>>> I don't know what has changed in trunk (I haven't committed to >>>> anything other than 1.8). >>>> >>>> The trunk to 1.8 changes made the 1.8 out of sync, so each difference >>>> will need to be worked out. I've already done that once, not that keen >>>> on doing it again. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>>> Pat, where have you been checking your files in? To 1.8? Should I take 1.8 >>>>> conflicts over to the trunk, or leave the trunk files? Therea r anumber of >>>>> conflicting modifications. Somme I an say are OK, cos I know what the score >>>>> is (XMLEngine.swf for example) but other (play.php) I don't. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm guessing that 1.8 should over-write the trunk files? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Mar 2 20:40:25 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 20:40:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trunk / 1.8 Message-ID: Trunk now works (well you can create an LO, create a folder, edit and preview an LO, move it to a new folder). Comments in the commits as to what was changed Changes pushed to trunk only. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 22:10:31 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 22:10:31 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trunk / 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 02 March 2012 20:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trunk / 1.8 Trunk now works (well you can create an LO, create a folder, edit and preview an LO, move it to a new folder). Comments in the commits as to what was changed Changes pushed to trunk only. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Fri Mar 2 23:21:37 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 23:21:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trunk / 1.8 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: ( I'm not sure what you intended to write Julian, but it looks like a blank reply. ) I've made some changes to trunk : preview.php - weird nesting/logic which looked like it'd been merged wrong to me - to me it looks correct now. database.php - I clearly added this somehow - removed. rss.php and syndicate.php - remove normal_date() - seems unused as far as ack-grep can find. user_library.php - change is_user_admin() to work OK even if someone isn't logged in; explicit return false added. Thanks, David. On 2 Mar 2012, at 22:10, Julian Tenney wrote: > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 02 March 2012 20:40 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trunk / 1.8 > > Trunk now works (well you can create an LO, create a folder, edit and > preview an LO, move it to a new folder). > > Comments in the commits as to what was changed > > Changes pushed to trunk only. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Mar 2 23:35:36 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 23:35:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trunk / 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Preview.php was all over the place, it had some bits twice. Looked a diff file merged in On 2 Mar 2012, at 23:21, David Goodwin wrote: > ( I'm not sure what you intended to write Julian, but it looks like a blank reply. ) > > I've made some changes to trunk : > > preview.php - weird nesting/logic which looked like it'd been merged wrong to me - to me it looks correct now. > database.php - I clearly added this somehow - removed. > rss.php and syndicate.php - remove normal_date() - seems unused as far as ack-grep can find. > user_library.php - change is_user_admin() to work OK even if someone isn't logged in; explicit return false added. > > > > Thanks, > > David. > > On 2 Mar 2012, at 22:10, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >> Sent: 02 March 2012 20:40 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trunk / 1.8 >> >> Trunk now works (well you can create an LO, create a folder, edit and >> preview an LO, move it to a new folder). >> >> Comments in the commits as to what was changed >> >> Changes pushed to trunk only. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Sat Mar 3 11:19:06 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 11:19:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trunk / 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BE7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Lol. I just meant to say thanks to pat. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin [david at palepurple.co.uk] Sent: 02 March 2012 23:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Trunk / 1.8 ( I'm not sure what you intended to write Julian, but it looks like a blank reply. ) I've made some changes to trunk : preview.php - weird nesting/logic which looked like it'd been merged wrong to me - to me it looks correct now. database.php - I clearly added this somehow - removed. rss.php and syndicate.php - remove normal_date() - seems unused as far as ack-grep can find. user_library.php - change is_user_admin() to work OK even if someone isn't logged in; explicit return false added. Thanks, David. On 2 Mar 2012, at 22:10, Julian Tenney wrote: > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 02 March 2012 20:40 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Trunk / 1.8 > > Trunk now works (well you can create an LO, create a folder, edit and > preview an LO, move it to a new folder). > > Comments in the commits as to what was changed > > Changes pushed to trunk only. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 10:05:25 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:05:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Testing Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hiya, How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many that are easily identified. What do you think? Also, once we've got something that looks like it might be ready for closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code issues? Thanks, J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is it worth Pat /David going through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many that are easily identified. > That requires me to install a test instance somewhere? > What do you think? > > Also, once we?ve got something that looks like it might be ready for closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code issues? > It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of outstanding things / things that need fixing... David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 10:09:21 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:09:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Run it on xampp for now, I'd say a beta version would be when it works seamlessly on xampp... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 05 March 2012 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote: Hiya, How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many that are easily identified. That requires me to install a test instance somewhere... What do you think? Also, once we've got something that looks like it might be ready for closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code issues? It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of outstanding things / things that need fixing... David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 10:10:37 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:10:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Let's use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you have time fix all the obvious ones first... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 05 March 2012 10:09 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing Run it on xampp for now, I'd say a beta version would be when it works seamlessly on xampp... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 05 March 2012 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote: Hiya, How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many that are easily identified. That requires me to install a test instance somewhere... What do you think? Also, once we've got something that looks like it might be ready for closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code issues? It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of outstanding things / things that need fixing... David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Mar 5 10:17:42 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:17:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Am I right in assuming that at present you are testing the code that delivers the XOT web experience, rather than the specific model files and template.xwd, both of which will be affected by the move to modularisation, and that the testing of this will come after you are happy that the XOT interface is working? If so do you have a feel for when you will want the work on the model files finished? The are almost there now. I have a little bit of tidying up to do and I need to add Ron's feature requests to the Hotspot Image Connector but then they should be ready for testing. If there is a little more time I will also prepare my Inventory page for inclusion and I would also like to take a stab at creating a Developer mode version of the menu page. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 March 2012 10:10, Julian Tenney wrote: > Let?s use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you > have time fix all the obvious ones first? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 05 March 2012 10:09 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing > > > > Run it on xampp for now, I?d say a beta version would be when it works > seamlessly on xampp? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David Goodwin > *Sent:* 05 March 2012 10:08 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing > > > > > > On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > Hiya, > > > > How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and > create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, > opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going > through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really > testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many > that are easily identified. > > > > > > That requires me to install a test instance somewhere? > > > > What do you think? > > > > Also, once we?ve got something that looks like it might be ready for > closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code > issues? > > > > > > It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of > outstanding things / things that need fixing... > > > > David > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Mar 5 10:18:35 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:18:35 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <003701ccfab9$55579a40$0006cec0$@co.uk> Happy to help test but as suggested will wait for confirmation that most of the current errors have been removed first. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 05 March 2012 10:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing Let's use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you have time fix all the obvious ones first. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 05 March 2012 10:09 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing Run it on xampp for now, I'd say a beta version would be when it works seamlessly on xampp. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 05 March 2012 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote: Hiya, How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many that are easily identified. That requires me to install a test instance somewhere. What do you think? Also, once we've got something that looks like it might be ready for closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code issues? It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of outstanding things / things that need fixing... David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Be good to get all the php / web stuff working first, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 March 2012 10:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing Am I right in assuming that at present you are testing the code that delivers the XOT web experience, rather than the specific model files and template.xwd, both of which will be affected by the move to modularisation, and that the testing of this will come after you are happy that the XOT interface is working? If so do you have a feel for when you will want the work on the model files finished? The are almost there now. I have a little bit of tidying up to do and I need to add Ron's feature requests to the Hotspot Image Connector but then they should be ready for testing. If there is a little more time I will also prepare my Inventory page for inclusion and I would also like to take a stab at creating a Developer mode version of the menu page. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 March 2012 10:10, Julian Tenney > wrote: Let's use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you have time fix all the obvious ones first... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 05 March 2012 10:09 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing Run it on xampp for now, I'd say a beta version would be when it works seamlessly on xampp... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 05 March 2012 10:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote: Hiya, How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many that are easily identified. That requires me to install a test instance somewhere... What do you think? Also, once we've got something that looks like it might be ready for closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code issues? It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of outstanding things / things that need fixing... David Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Be good to get all the php / web stuff > working first, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 March 2012 10:18 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing > > > > Am I right in assuming that at present you are testing the code that > delivers the XOT web experience, rather than the specific model files and > template.xwd, both of which will be affected by the move to modularisation, > and that the testing of this will come after you are happy that the XOT > interface is working? > > > > If so do you have a feel for when you will want the work on the model > files finished? The are almost there now. I have a little bit of tidying up > to do and I need to add Ron's feature requests to the Hotspot Image > Connector but then they should be ready for testing. > > > > If there is a little more time I will also prepare my Inventory page for > inclusion and I would also like to take a stab at creating a Developer mode > version of the menu page. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 March 2012 10:10, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Let?s use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you > have time fix all the obvious ones first? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 05 March 2012 10:09 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing > > > > Run it on xampp for now, I?d say a beta version would be when it works > seamlessly on xampp? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David Goodwin > *Sent:* 05 March 2012 10:08 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing > > > > > > On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > Hiya, > > > > How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and > create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, > opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going > through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really > testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many > that are easily identified. > > > > > > That requires me to install a test instance somewhere? > > > > What do you think? > > > > Also, once we?ve got something that looks like it might be ready for > closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code > issues? > > > > > > It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of > outstanding things / things that need fixing... > > > > David > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Mar 5 10:29:29 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:29:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB55B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I don't have much time to do anything between now and the end of march. 1.8 Didn't have any errors when I committed it. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > Great, that should give me plenty of time. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 March 2012 10:18, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> Probably in a couple of weeks? Be good to get all the php / web stuff >> working first, >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:18 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> Am I right in assuming that at present you are testing the code that >> delivers the XOT web experience, rather than the specific model files and >> template.xwd, both of which will be affected by the move to modularisation, >> and that the testing of this will come after you are happy that the XOT >> interface is working? >> >> >> >> If so do you have a feel for when you will want the work on the model >> files finished? The are almost there now. I have a little bit of tidying up >> to do and I need to add Ron's feature requests to the Hotspot Image >> Connector but then they should be ready for testing. >> >> >> >> If there is a little more time I will also prepare my Inventory page for >> inclusion and I would also like to take a stab at creating a Developer mode >> version of the menu page. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 March 2012 10:10, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Let?s use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you >> have time fix all the obvious ones first? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:09 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> Run it on xampp for now, I?d say a beta version would be when it works >> seamlessly on xampp? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:08 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> >> >> Hiya, >> >> >> >> How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and >> create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, >> opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going >> through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really >> testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many >> that are easily identified. >> >> >> >> >> >> That requires me to install a test instance somewhere? >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> Also, once we?ve got something that looks like it might be ready for >> closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code >> issues? >> >> >> >> >> >> It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of >> outstanding things / things that need fixing... >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >> >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> >> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> >> >> Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 10:33:55 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:33:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB55B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB58C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> None at all? I don't believe you. On publishing: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CCFABB.77607420] Opening properties panel (tons of similar errors on each panel) [cid:image002.jpg at 01CCFABB.77607420] On trying to upload media: [cid:image003.jpg at 01CCFABB.77607420] On trying to export a zip [cid:image004.jpg at 01CCFABB.77607420] Emptying the recycle bin deletes all your projects in the workspace. Etc etc. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 05 March 2012 10:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing I don't have much time to do anything between now and the end of march. 1.8 Didn't have any errors when I committed it. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > Great, that should give me plenty of time. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 March 2012 10:18, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> Probably in a couple of weeks? Be good to get all the php / web stuff >> working first, >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:18 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> Am I right in assuming that at present you are testing the code that >> delivers the XOT web experience, rather than the specific model files and >> template.xwd, both of which will be affected by the move to modularisation, >> and that the testing of this will come after you are happy that the XOT >> interface is working? >> >> >> >> If so do you have a feel for when you will want the work on the model >> files finished? The are almost there now. I have a little bit of tidying up >> to do and I need to add Ron's feature requests to the Hotspot Image >> Connector but then they should be ready for testing. >> >> >> >> If there is a little more time I will also prepare my Inventory page for >> inclusion and I would also like to take a stab at creating a Developer mode >> version of the menu page. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 March 2012 10:10, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Let's use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you >> have time fix all the obvious ones first... >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:09 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> Run it on xampp for now, I'd say a beta version would be when it works >> seamlessly on xampp... >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:08 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> >> >> Hiya, >> >> >> >> How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and >> create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, >> opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going >> through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really >> testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many >> that are easily identified. >> >> >> >> >> >> That requires me to install a test instance somewhere... >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> Also, once we've got something that looks like it might be ready for >> closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code >> issues? >> >> >> >> >> >> It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of >> outstanding things / things that need fixing... >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >> >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >> permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: image004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3129 bytes Desc: image004.jpg URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Mon Mar 5 10:37:10 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:37:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB58C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB55B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB58C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Can you make those images larger; i can't read them. David On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:33, Julian Tenney wrote: > None at all? I don?t believe you. > > On publishing: > > > Opening properties panel (tons of similar errors on each panel) > > > > On trying to upload media: > > > > On trying to export a zip > > > > Emptying the recycle bin deletes all your projects in the workspace. > > Etc etc. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 05 March 2012 10:29 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing > > I don't have much time to do anything between now and the end of march. > > 1.8 Didn't have any errors when I committed it. > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > Great, that should give me plenty of time. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 March 2012 10:18, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> > >> Probably in a couple of weeks? Be good to get all the php / web stuff > >> working first, > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > >> Johnathan > >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:18 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing > >> > >> > >> > >> Am I right in assuming that at present you are testing the code that > >> delivers the XOT web experience, rather than the specific model files and > >> template.xwd, both of which will be affected by the move to modularisation, > >> and that the testing of this will come after you are happy that the XOT > >> interface is working? > >> > >> > >> > >> If so do you have a feel for when you will want the work on the model > >> files finished? The are almost there now. I have a little bit of tidying up > >> to do and I need to add Ron's feature requests to the Hotspot Image > >> Connector but then they should be ready for testing. > >> > >> > >> > >> If there is a little more time I will also prepare my Inventory page for > >> inclusion and I would also like to take a stab at creating a Developer mode > >> version of the menu page. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Johnathan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 5 March 2012 10:10, Julian Tenney > >> wrote: > >> > >> Let?s use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you > >> have time fix all the obvious ones first? > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:09 > >> > >> > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing > >> > >> > >> > >> Run it on xampp for now, I?d say a beta version would be when it works > >> seamlessly on xampp? > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:08 > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hiya, > >> > >> > >> > >> How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and > >> create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, > >> opening the properties window, and so on. 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On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > None at all? I don?t believe you.**** > > ** ** > > On publishing:**** > > **** > > ** ** > > Opening properties panel (tons of similar errors on each panel)**** > > ** ** > > **** > > ** ** > > On trying to upload media:**** > > ** ** > > **** > > ** ** > > On trying to export a zip**** > > ** ** > > **** > > ** ** > > Emptying the recycle bin deletes all your projects in the workspace.**** > > > Etc etc.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 05 March 2012 10:29 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing**** > > ** ** > > I don't have much time to do anything between now and the end of march.*** > * > > ** ** > > 1.8 Didn't have any errors when I committed it.**** > > ** ** > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Kemp Johnathan**** > > wrote:**** > > > Great, that should give me plenty of time.**** > > >** ** > > > Kind regards**** > > >** ** > > > Johnathan**** > > >** ** > > > On 5 March 2012 10:18, Julian Tenney > wrote:**** > > >>** ** > > >> Probably in a couple of weeks? Be good to get all the php / web stuff** > ** > > >> working first,**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk**** > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp**** > > >> Johnathan**** > > >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:18**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> To: For Xerte technical developers**** > > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> Am I right in assuming that at present you are testing the code that*** > * > > >> delivers the XOT web experience, rather than the specific model files > and**** > > >> template.xwd, both of which will be affected by the move to > modularisation,**** > > >> and that the testing of this will come after you are happy that the XOT > **** > > >> interface is working?**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> If so do you have a feel for when you will want the work on the model** > ** > > >> files finished? The are almost there now. I have a little bit of > tidying up**** > > >> to do and I need to add Ron's feature requests to the Hotspot Image**** > > >> Connector but then they should be ready for testing.**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> If there is a little more time I will also prepare my Inventory page for > **** > > >> inclusion and I would also like to take a stab at creating a Developer > mode**** > > >> version of the menu page.**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> Kind regards**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> Johnathan**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> On 5 March 2012 10:10, Julian Tenney ** > ** > > >> wrote:**** > > >>** ** > > >> Let?s use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you* > *** > > >> have time fix all the obvious ones first?**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk**** > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney**** > > >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:09**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> To: For Xerte technical developers**** > > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> Run it on xampp for now, I?d say a beta version would be when it works* > *** > > >> seamlessly on xampp?**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk**** > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David > Goodwin**** > > >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:08**** > > >> To: For Xerte technical developers**** > > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote:**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> Hiya,**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and*** > * > > >> create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing,* > *** > > >> opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going* > *** > > >> through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start > really**** > > >> testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many > **** > > >> that are easily identified.**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> That requires me to install a test instance somewhere?**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> What do you think?**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> Also, once we?ve got something that looks like it might be ready for*** > * > > >> closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code** > ** > > >> issues?**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of > **** > > >> outstanding things / things that need fixing...**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> David**** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >>** ** > > >> Pale Purple Ltd. 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All In know is, I take the trunk, try and run it xampp and it throws a whole load of errors up and deletes all my projects when I empty the recycle bin. I imagine some of these issues have come from the way I merged the files last week, but as I said, I am not the person to know how to resolve the conflicts. > Logically, why would I submit something if it was broken. I'm not saying you did. But it doesn't work now. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 05 March 2012 10:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing It was 6 days work. I tested every page for display. Logically, why would I submit something if it was broken. These are caused by the development status being true. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: None at all? I don't believe you. On publishing: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CCFABC.88C92120] Opening properties panel (tons of similar errors on each panel) [cid:image002.jpg at 01CCFABC.88C92120] On trying to upload media: [cid:image003.jpg at 01CCFABC.88C92120] On trying to export a zip [cid:image004.jpg at 01CCFABC.88C92120] Emptying the recycle bin deletes all your projects in the workspace. Etc etc. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 05 March 2012 10:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing I don't have much time to do anything between now and the end of march. 1.8 Didn't have any errors when I committed it. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > Great, that should give me plenty of time. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 March 2012 10:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> >> Probably in a couple of weeks? Be good to get all the php / web stuff >> working first, >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:18 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> Am I right in assuming that at present you are testing the code that >> delivers the XOT web experience, rather than the specific model files and >> template.xwd, both of which will be affected by the move to modularisation, >> and that the testing of this will come after you are happy that the XOT >> interface is working? >> >> >> >> If so do you have a feel for when you will want the work on the model >> files finished? The are almost there now. I have a little bit of tidying up >> to do and I need to add Ron's feature requests to the Hotspot Image >> Connector but then they should be ready for testing. >> >> >> >> If there is a little more time I will also prepare my Inventory page for >> inclusion and I would also like to take a stab at creating a Developer mode >> version of the menu page. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 March 2012 10:10, Julian Tenney > >> wrote: >> >> Let's use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you >> have time fix all the obvious ones first... >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:09 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> Run it on xampp for now, I'd say a beta version would be when it works >> seamlessly on xampp... >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:08 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> >> >> Hiya, >> >> >> >> How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and >> create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, >> opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going >> through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really >> testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many >> that are easily identified. >> >> >> >> >> >> That requires me to install a test instance somewhere... >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> Also, once we've got something that looks like it might be ready for >> closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code >> issues? >> >> >> >> >> >> It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of >> outstanding things / things that need fixing... >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 05 March 2012 10:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing Can you make those images larger; i can't read them. David On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:33, Julian Tenney wrote: None at all? I don't believe you. On publishing: Opening properties panel (tons of similar errors on each panel) On trying to upload media: On trying to export a zip Emptying the recycle bin deletes all your projects in the workspace. Etc etc. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 05 March 2012 10:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing I don't have much time to do anything between now and the end of march. 1.8 Didn't have any errors when I committed it. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > Great, that should give me plenty of time. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 March 2012 10:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> >> Probably in a couple of weeks? Be good to get all the php / web stuff >> working first, >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:18 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> Am I right in assuming that at present you are testing the code that >> delivers the XOT web experience, rather than the specific model files and >> template.xwd, both of which will be affected by the move to modularisation, >> and that the testing of this will come after you are happy that the XOT >> interface is working? >> >> >> >> If so do you have a feel for when you will want the work on the model >> files finished? The are almost there now. I have a little bit of tidying up >> to do and I need to add Ron's feature requests to the Hotspot Image >> Connector but then they should be ready for testing. >> >> >> >> If there is a little more time I will also prepare my Inventory page for >> inclusion and I would also like to take a stab at creating a Developer mode >> version of the menu page. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 March 2012 10:10, Julian Tenney > >> wrote: >> >> Let's use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you >> have time fix all the obvious ones first... >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:09 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> Run it on xampp for now, I'd say a beta version would be when it works >> seamlessly on xampp... >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:08 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> >> >> Hiya, >> >> >> >> How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and >> create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing, >> opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going >> through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start really >> testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many >> that are easily identified. >> >> >> >> >> >> That requires me to install a test instance somewhere... >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> Also, once we've got something that looks like it might be ready for >> closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code >> issues? >> >> >> >> >> >> It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of >> outstanding things / things that need fixing... >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >> >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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I tried that - but I clearly don't have Hollywood OS installed and couldn't enhance them ?.. thanks David. > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 05 March 2012 10:37 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing > > Can you make those images larger; i can't read them. > > David > On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:33, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Etc. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 05 March 2012 10:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:42, Julian Tenney wrote: Just resize them - they were big when I pasted them in, unless outlook crunches them... I tried that - but I clearly don't have Hollywood OS installed and couldn't enhance them ..... thanks David. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 05 March 2012 10:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing Can you make those images larger; i can't read them. David On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:33, Julian Tenney wrote: Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image007.png Type: image/png Size: 195835 bytes Desc: image007.png URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Mar 5 11:08:38 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:08:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB59F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB55B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB58C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB59F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: In config.php is a parameter called development. Toolkits 1.7 had a problem that php 5.2 reported a problem that PHP 4.3 didn't care about. The config.php used to suppress all errors. Now you can chose to suppress errors - so if you set development to be false, some of those errors don't display (some are warnings, not errors). On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > >These are caused by the development status being true.**** > > I don?t know what that means? All In know is, I take the trunk, try and > run it xampp and it throws a whole load of errors up and deletes all my > projects when I empty the recycle bin. I imagine some of these issues have > come from the way I merged the files last week, but as I said, I am not the > person to know how to resolve the conflicts.**** > > ** ** > > > Logically, why would I submit something if it was broken.**** > > I?m not saying you did. But it doesn?t work now.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Pat Lockley > *Sent:* 05 March 2012 10:38 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing**** > > ** ** > > It was 6 days work. I tested every page for display. Logically, why would > I submit something if it was broken.**** > > ** ** > > These are caused by the development status being true.**** > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:**** > > None at all? I don?t believe you.**** > > **** > > On publishing:**** > > **** > > **** > > Opening properties panel (tons of similar errors on each panel)**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > On trying to upload media:**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > On trying to export a zip**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > Emptying the recycle bin deletes all your projects in the workspace.**** > > > Etc etc.**** > > **** > > **** > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 05 March 2012 10:29 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing**** > > **** > > I don't have much time to do anything between now and the end of march.*** > * > > **** > > 1.8 Didn't have any errors when I committed it.**** > > **** > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Kemp Johnathan**** > > wrote:**** > > > Great, that should give me plenty of time.**** > > > **** > > > Kind regards**** > > > **** > > > Johnathan**** > > > **** > > > On 5 March 2012 10:18, Julian Tenney > wrote:**** > > >> **** > > >> Probably in a couple of weeks? Be good to get all the php / web stuff** > ** > > >> working first,**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk**** > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp**** > > >> Johnathan**** > > >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:18**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> To: For Xerte technical developers**** > > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> Am I right in assuming that at present you are testing the code that*** > * > > >> delivers the XOT web experience, rather than the specific model files > and**** > > >> template.xwd, both of which will be affected by the move to > modularisation,**** > > >> and that the testing of this will come after you are happy that the XOT > **** > > >> interface is working?**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> If so do you have a feel for when you will want the work on the model** > ** > > >> files finished? The are almost there now. I have a little bit of > tidying up**** > > >> to do and I need to add Ron's feature requests to the Hotspot Image**** > > >> Connector but then they should be ready for testing.**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> If there is a little more time I will also prepare my Inventory page for > **** > > >> inclusion and I would also like to take a stab at creating a Developer > mode**** > > >> version of the menu page.**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> Kind regards**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> Johnathan**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> On 5 March 2012 10:10, Julian Tenney ** > ** > > >> wrote:**** > > >> **** > > >> Let?s use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you* > *** > > >> have time fix all the obvious ones first?**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk**** > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney**** > > >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:09**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> To: For Xerte technical developers**** > > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> Run it on xampp for now, I?d say a beta version would be when it works* > *** > > >> seamlessly on xampp?**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk**** > > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David > Goodwin**** > > >> Sent: 05 March 2012 10:08**** > > >> To: For Xerte technical developers**** > > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:05, Julian Tenney wrote:**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> Hiya,**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> How best to proceed with the testing: I can also install it now, and*** > * > > >> create and preview a LO, but there are a load of errors on publishing,* > *** > > >> opening the properties window, and so on. Is it worth Pat /David going* > *** > > >> through an putting as much of this right as possible before we start > really**** > > >> testing everything, as it seems daft logging bugs when there are so many > **** > > >> that are easily identified.**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> That requires me to install a test instance somewhere?**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> What do you think?**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> Also, once we?ve got something that looks like it might be ready for*** > * > > >> closer scrutiny, how to record the bugs? Shall we use the google code** > ** > > >> issues?**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> It would make sense - as in at least there would be some sort of list of > **** > > >> outstanding things / things that need fixing...**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> David**** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> **** > > >> Pale Purple Ltd. 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Name: image004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3129 bytes Desc: not available URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Mon Mar 5 11:14:10 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:14:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB55B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB58C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <58BB94ED-DF4E-4BD1-90A1-E34A6F179367@palepurple.co.uk> On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Julian Tenney wrote: > On publish after publishing prompt: > \ Ah - that's an example of why using dirname(__FILE__) is good. Fixable. + one undefined variable. Easy fix (for you) - edit your php.ini file and change your include path to NOT contain c:\xampp\php\PEAR or c:\xampp\php > > On selecting properties > > Duplicated constants - hmm?. I thought they'd be unique in the language files, but they clearly aren't. > ON attemptiong to upload media into a project > > > Missing language file (I think). > Trying to change access: > I think I've fixed the syntax error for website_code/php/properties/access_template.php but it's still going to be broken as $query_for_security_content_response seems to be not defined - and this problem will also exist for play.php > > Before emptying an (empty) recycle bin: > > Don't know about this. > And after: > > Or this. thanks David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:14 AM, David Goodwin wrote: > > On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Julian Tenney wrote: > > On publish after publishing prompt: > \ > > > > Ah - that's an example of why using dirname(__FILE__) is good. Fixable. > > + one undefined variable. > > Easy fix (for you) - edit your php.ini file and change your include path to > NOT contain c:\xampp\php\PEAR or c:\xampp\php > > > > On selecting properties > > > > > > Duplicated constants - hmm?. I thought they'd be unique in the language > files, but they clearly aren't. > > > ON attemptiong to upload media into a project > > > > > > Missing language file (I think). > > Trying to change access: > > > > > I think I've fixed the syntax error > for?website_code/php/properties/access_template.php but it's still going to > be broken as > > $query_for_security_content_response seems to be not defined - and this > problem will also exist for play.php > > > > > Before emptying an (empty) recycle bin: > > > > > Don't know about this. > > And after: > > > > > Or this. > > thanks > David. > > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From david at palepurple.co.uk Mon Mar 5 11:18:49 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:18:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB55B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB58C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8B595F0D-6638-475E-AD89-E1865F8E1127@palepurple.co.uk> On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Julian Tenney wrote: > On publish after publishing prompt: > > I don't know how to fix the undefined variable one - $_POST['template_id'] presumably wasn't passed to the script in a manner it expected. (I can make the warning go away; but I suspect it's pointing to the caller passing in the template_id value via a GET parameter or something). David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Mon Mar 5 11:21:01 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:21:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1A79E3B3-BA3C-4F73-9C44-D975296F68A2@palepurple.co.uk> On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:10, Julian Tenney wrote: > Let?s use the issues on xerteonlinetoolkits at google code, but if you have time fix all the obvious ones first? +1 - we'll lose track of stuff if stays just on this mailing list ?. I've tried to fix "the obvious" ones... David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 11:27:30 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:27:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <58BB94ED-DF4E-4BD1-90A1-E34A6F179367@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB55B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB58C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <58BB94ED-DF4E-4BD1-90A1-E34A6F179367@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB616@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Easy fix (for you) - edit your php.ini file and change your include path to NOT contain c:\xampp\php\PEAR or c:\xampp\php We can't get users to do this. The Xampp install needs to be easy. Most toolkits users have no business anywhere near php.ini. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 05 March 2012 11:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Julian Tenney wrote: On publish after publishing prompt: \ Ah - that's an example of why using dirname(__FILE__) is good. Fixable. + one undefined variable. Easy fix (for you) - edit your php.ini file and change your include path to NOT contain c:\xampp\php\PEAR or c:\xampp\php On selecting properties Duplicated constants - hmm.... I thought they'd be unique in the language files, but they clearly aren't. ON attemptiong to upload media into a project Missing language file (I think). Trying to change access: I think I've fixed the syntax error for website_code/php/properties/access_template.php but it's still going to be broken as $query_for_security_content_response seems to be not defined - and this problem will also exist for play.php Before emptying an (empty) recycle bin: Don't know about this. And after: Or this. thanks David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 11:28:29 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:28:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <58BB94ED-DF4E-4BD1-90A1-E34A6F179367@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB55B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB58C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <58BB94ED-DF4E-4BD1-90A1-E34A6F179367@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB61B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Also, now we are teting and fixing trunk, 1.7 and 1.8 branches are now redundant, other than as a last resort I guess. Thanks a lot. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 05 March 2012 11:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Julian Tenney wrote: On publish after publishing prompt: \ Ah - that's an example of why using dirname(__FILE__) is good. Fixable. + one undefined variable. Easy fix (for you) - edit your php.ini file and change your include path to NOT contain c:\xampp\php\PEAR or c:\xampp\php On selecting properties Duplicated constants - hmm.... I thought they'd be unique in the language files, but they clearly aren't. ON attemptiong to upload media into a project Missing language file (I think). Trying to change access: I think I've fixed the syntax error for website_code/php/properties/access_template.php but it's still going to be broken as $query_for_security_content_response seems to be not defined - and this problem will also exist for play.php Before emptying an (empty) recycle bin: Don't know about this. And after: Or this. thanks David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Mon Mar 5 11:42:24 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:42:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB616@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB55B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB58C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <58BB94ED-DF4E-4BD1-90A1-E34A6F179367@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E5 9DA31562C3F0BA44DB616@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 5 Mar 2012, at 11:27, Julian Tenney wrote: > Easy fix (for you) - edit your php.ini file and change your include path to NOT contain c:\xampp\php\PEAR or c:\xampp\php > > We can?t get users to do this. The Xampp install needs to be easy. Most toolkits users have no business anywhere near php.ini. I know, that's why I said "Easy fix (for you)" :-) Try doing an svn update; some of the problems may go away now. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 11:44:35 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:44:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB52A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <656963C6-2CF5-4603-A83A-E9A1F9D5F178@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB539@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB541@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB55B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB58C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB5B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <58BB94ED-DF4E-4BD1-90A1-E34A6F179367@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E5 9DA31562C3F0BA44DB616@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DB643@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Just about to, thanks, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 05 March 2012 11:42 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing On 5 Mar 2012, at 11:27, Julian Tenney wrote: Easy fix (for you) - edit your php.ini file and change your include path to NOT contain c:\xampp\php\PEAR or c:\xampp\php We can't get users to do this. The Xampp install needs to be easy. Most toolkits users have no business anywhere near php.ini. I know, that's why I said "Easy fix (for you)" :-) Try doing an svn update; some of the problems may go away now. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Mar 5 12:26:59 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 12:26:59 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] New mapping pages Message-ID: Recent developments in the template.xwd file have seen the addition of two new pages Geocommons map and Mapstraction Map. Are these work in progress or are they now ready for turning into individual page templates? 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Overlays are KML files, seach for 'earthquake data kml' to find some handy data, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 March 2012 12:27 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] New mapping pages Recent developments in the template.xwd file have seen the addition of two new pages Geocommons map and Mapstraction Map. Are these work in progress or are they now ready for turning into individual page templates? If they are ready would anyone be able to provide me with some test data I can use to test the individual page templates once I have created them? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue Mar 6 07:37:39 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:37:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) Message-ID: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> Hi I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist before trying to create then. The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. Thanks David David Goodwin Pale Purple Ltd. http://www.palepurple.co.uk 0845 0046746 07792 380669 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 07:43:37 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:43:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BEB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Thanks a lot, that's great. I'll have a look when I get to work... ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin [david at palepurple.co.uk] Sent: 06 March 2012 07:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) Hi I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist before trying to create then. The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. Thanks David David Goodwin Pale Purple Ltd. http://www.palepurple.co.uk 0845 0046746 07792 380669 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Mar 6 08:10:58 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:10:58 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> I added this to the issue page but thought I'd post here too.... Not sure it's practical to have a whitelist - too many potential urls that users might add to the relevant XOT page and unrealistic for someone with access to the code or management.php to keep adding new allowed url's upon request. Isn't there a way to restrict rss_proxy.php so that it can't be accessed via browser and can only be called from relevant XOT code? Sorry I might be mis-understanding the risk but in a big college or University I can't see it being practical to have and manage a whitelist. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 06 March 2012 07:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) Hi I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist before trying to create then. The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. Thanks David David Goodwin Pale Purple Ltd. http://www.palepurple.co.uk 0845 0046746 07792 380669 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 09:50:48 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:50:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBA52@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think it can be flagged in the code as potentially useful, if people are concerned about it, but you couldn't manage a white list because we don't know what feeds users are going to try and include in their content. It could prevent access to certain sorts of files maybe? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 March 2012 08:11 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) I added this to the issue page but thought I'd post here too.... Not sure it's practical to have a whitelist - too many potential urls that users might add to the relevant XOT page and unrealistic for someone with access to the code or management.php to keep adding new allowed url's upon request. Isn't there a way to restrict rss_proxy.php so that it can't be accessed via browser and can only be called from relevant XOT code? Sorry I might be mis-understanding the risk but in a big college or University I can't see it being practical to have and manage a whitelist. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 06 March 2012 07:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) Hi I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist before trying to create then. The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. Thanks David David Goodwin Pale Purple Ltd. http://www.palepurple.co.uk 0845 0046746 07792 380669 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Mar 6 09:54:01 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:54:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Rss proxy is used be the googlemaps page and the wikipedia page? So it's a basic URL? yes if someone makes a new page it's a problem Alternatively, rewrite the flash to post variables at rss_proxy instead, and pass a per site token that identifies the content. How you deal with exported pages I don't know. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > I added this to the issue page but thought I'd post here too.... > > Not sure it's practical to have a whitelist - too many potential urls that > users might add to the relevant XOT page and unrealistic for someone with > access to the code or management.php to keep adding new allowed url's upon > request. Isn't there a way to restrict rss_proxy.php so that it can't be > accessed via browser and can only be called from relevant XOT code? > > Sorry I might be mis-understanding the risk but in a big college or > University I can't see it being practical to have and manage a whitelist. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 06 March 2012 07:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) > > Hi > > I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and > login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). > Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. > > The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist > before trying to create then. > > The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the > setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an > existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? > (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) > > > I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security > problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone > may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at > the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. > > Thanks > David > > David Goodwin > Pale Purple Ltd. > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > 0845 0046746 > 07792 380669 > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Mar 6 09:54:44 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:54:44 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBA52@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBA52@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: ok, so rss feeds as well so if page an RSS page, you can add an "is_xml" check before returning. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I think it can be flagged in the code as potentially useful, if people are concerned about it, but you couldn't manage a white list because we don't know what feeds users are going to try and include in their content. It could prevent access to certain sorts of files maybe? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 06 March 2012 08:11 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) > > I added this to the issue page but thought I'd post here too.... > > Not sure it's practical to have a whitelist - too many potential urls that > users might add to the relevant XOT page and unrealistic for someone with > access to the code or management.php to keep adding new allowed url's upon > request. Isn't there a way to restrict rss_proxy.php so that it can't be > accessed via browser and can only be called from relevant XOT code? > > Sorry I might be mis-understanding the risk but in a big college or > University I can't see it being practical to have and manage a whitelist. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 06 March 2012 07:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) > > Hi > > I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and > login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). > Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. > > The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist > before trying to create then. > > The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the > setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an > existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? > (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) > > > I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security > problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone > may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at > the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. > > Thanks > David > > David Goodwin > Pale Purple Ltd. > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > 0845 0046746 > 07792 380669 > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 09:54:42 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:54:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBA5A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's used to get RSS feeds in. we don't know what they might be. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 06 March 2012 09:54 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) Rss proxy is used be the googlemaps page and the wikipedia page? So it's a basic URL? yes if someone makes a new page it's a problem Alternatively, rewrite the flash to post variables at rss_proxy instead, and pass a per site token that identifies the content. How you deal with exported pages I don't know. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > I added this to the issue page but thought I'd post here too.... > > Not sure it's practical to have a whitelist - too many potential urls that > users might add to the relevant XOT page and unrealistic for someone with > access to the code or management.php to keep adding new allowed url's upon > request. Isn't there a way to restrict rss_proxy.php so that it can't be > accessed via browser and can only be called from relevant XOT code? > > Sorry I might be mis-understanding the risk but in a big college or > University I can't see it being practical to have and manage a whitelist. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 06 March 2012 07:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) > > Hi > > I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and > login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). > Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. > > The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist > before trying to create then. > > The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the > setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an > existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? > (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) > > > I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security > problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone > may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at > the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. > > Thanks > David > > David Goodwin > Pale Purple Ltd. > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > 0845 0046746 > 07792 380669 > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 09:55:34 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:55:34 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBA52@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBA5C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes. Let's get the other issues sorted out first... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 06 March 2012 09:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) ok, so rss feeds as well so if page an RSS page, you can add an "is_xml" check before returning. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I think it can be flagged in the code as potentially useful, if people are concerned about it, but you couldn't manage a white list because we don't know what feeds users are going to try and include in their content. It could prevent access to certain sorts of files maybe? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 06 March 2012 08:11 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) > > I added this to the issue page but thought I'd post here too.... > > Not sure it's practical to have a whitelist - too many potential urls that > users might add to the relevant XOT page and unrealistic for someone with > access to the code or management.php to keep adding new allowed url's upon > request. Isn't there a way to restrict rss_proxy.php so that it can't be > accessed via browser and can only be called from relevant XOT code? > > Sorry I might be mis-understanding the risk but in a big college or > University I can't see it being practical to have and manage a whitelist. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 06 March 2012 07:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) > > Hi > > I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and > login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). > Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. > > The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist > before trying to create then. > > The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the > setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an > existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? > (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) > > > I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security > problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone > may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at > the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. > > Thanks > David > > David Goodwin > Pale Purple Ltd. > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > 0845 0046746 > 07792 380669 > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue Mar 6 10:05:22 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:05:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <525812B5-2D38-40FD-B4E8-A8586EE457FE@palepurple.co.uk> Julian - Assuming you are the Google code boss - can you set GoogleCode up so issue(s) are cc'ed to this mailing list automatically? Does it provide any sort of integration between tickets and the mailing list? It's a bit annoying having to notify the list that a ticket has been created or changed or whatever. thanks, David. On 6 Mar 2012, at 08:10, Ron Mitchell wrote: > I added this to the issue page but thought I'd post here too.... > > Not sure it's practical to have a whitelist - too many potential urls that > users might add to the relevant XOT page and unrealistic for someone with > access to the code or management.php to keep adding new allowed url's upon > request. Isn't there a way to restrict rss_proxy.php so that it can't be > accessed via browser and can only be called from relevant XOT code? > > Sorry I might be mis-understanding the risk but in a big college or > University I can't see it being practical to have and manage a whitelist. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 06 March 2012 07:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) > > Hi > > I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and > login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). > Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. > > The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist > before trying to create then. > > The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the > setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an > existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? > (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) > > > I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security > problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone > may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at > the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. > > Thanks > David > > David Goodwin > Pale Purple Ltd. > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > 0845 0046746 > 07792 380669 > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 10:10:39 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:10:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <525812B5-2D38-40FD-B4E8-A8586EE457FE@palepurple.co.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> <525812B5-2D38-40FD-B4E8-A8586EE457FE@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBA80@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'll have a look. There are feeds, I'm not sure if they reflect updated statuses. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 06 March 2012 10:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) Julian - Assuming you are the Google code boss - can you set GoogleCode up so issue(s) are cc'ed to this mailing list automatically? Does it provide any sort of integration between tickets and the mailing list? It's a bit annoying having to notify the list that a ticket has been created or changed or whatever. thanks, David. On 6 Mar 2012, at 08:10, Ron Mitchell wrote: > I added this to the issue page but thought I'd post here too.... > > Not sure it's practical to have a whitelist - too many potential urls that > users might add to the relevant XOT page and unrealistic for someone with > access to the code or management.php to keep adding new allowed url's upon > request. Isn't there a way to restrict rss_proxy.php so that it can't be > accessed via browser and can only be called from relevant XOT code? > > Sorry I might be mis-understanding the risk but in a big college or > University I can't see it being practical to have and manage a whitelist. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 06 March 2012 07:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) > > Hi > > I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and > login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). > Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. > > The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist > before trying to create then. > > The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the > setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an > existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? > (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) > > > I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security > problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone > may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at > the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. > > Thanks > David > > David Goodwin > Pale Purple Ltd. > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > 0845 0046746 > 07792 380669 > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 10:21:26 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:21:26 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBA80@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <000f01ccfb70$abe62f40$03b28dc0$@co.uk> <525812B5-2D38-40FD-B4E8-A8586EE457FE@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBA80@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBA9E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I've done that. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 06 March 2012 10:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) I'll have a look. There are feeds, I'm not sure if they reflect updated statuses. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 06 March 2012 10:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) Julian - Assuming you are the Google code boss - can you set GoogleCode up so issue(s) are cc'ed to this mailing list automatically? Does it provide any sort of integration between tickets and the mailing list? It's a bit annoying having to notify the list that a ticket has been created or changed or whatever. thanks, David. On 6 Mar 2012, at 08:10, Ron Mitchell wrote: > I added this to the issue page but thought I'd post here too.... > > Not sure it's practical to have a whitelist - too many potential urls that > users might add to the relevant XOT page and unrealistic for someone with > access to the code or management.php to keep adding new allowed url's upon > request. Isn't there a way to restrict rss_proxy.php so that it can't be > accessed via browser and can only be called from relevant XOT code? > > Sorry I might be mis-understanding the risk but in a big college or > University I can't see it being practical to have and manage a whitelist. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 06 March 2012 07:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) > > Hi > > I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and > login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). > Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. > > The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist > before trying to create then. > > The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the > setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an > existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? > (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) > > > I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security > problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone > may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at > the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. > > Thanks > David > > David Goodwin > Pale Purple Ltd. > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > 0845 0046746 > 07792 380669 > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 10:24:55 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:24:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBAA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Just installed all the new files on xampp, now get this when trying to edit: [cid:image001.png at 01CCFB83.5FD5DAC0] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 06 March 2012 07:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Fixes last night (XOT) Hi I made some fixes to XOT trunk last night - so you can at least install and login as a new user. (I did a full install and used demo.php to login). Again this breakage was due to merging by the looks of it. The installer will now remove any existing xerte db tables if they exist before trying to create then. The installer now tries to strongly suggest to people that they delete the setup folder. Can we change the installer so it aborts if someone has an existing database.php file or something so making deletion unnecessary? (obviously I can code it to - but is this an ok thing to do ?) I've also created an issue on the google issue tracker covering a security problem in proxy_rss.php. Does XOT store a list of all remote urls someone may want to request anywhere so we can have a whitelist of good urls - at the moment someone can use proxy_rss.php to fetch any remote URL. Thanks David David Goodwin Pale Purple Ltd. http://www.palepurple.co.uk 0845 0046746 07792 380669 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 06 March 2012 10:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) Yes, I was seeing that before I thought I'd fixed the is_first_time() function. Guess I'll have to try it on xampp then. David. On 6 Mar 2012, at 10:24, Julian Tenney wrote: Just installed all the new files on xampp, now get this when trying to edit: Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue Mar 6 11:44:19 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:44:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBABB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBAA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3CBC4834-9BC9-447F-BF13-9FA627CC2079@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBABB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <6EA907F4-71F0-4A12-B93A-17A4FC3EE30F@palepurple.co.uk> On 6 Mar 2012, at 10:30, Julian Tenney wrote: > Please! > > Emptying an empty recycle bin still deletes your projects as well. > svn update etc. I can install it on OSX using XAMPP and it now works fine - at least i can create stuff, and when I delete them they end up in the recycle bin. How do you empty the recycle bin? David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 06 March 2012 11:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) On 6 Mar 2012, at 10:30, Julian Tenney wrote: Please! Emptying an empty recycle bin still deletes your projects as well. svn update etc. I can install it on OSX using XAMPP and it now works fine - at least i can create stuff, and when I delete them they end up in the recycle bin. How do you empty the recycle bin? David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 06 March 2012 11:47 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) On 6 Mar 2012, at 11:45, Julian Tenney wrote: Highlight it and press the delete button. It seems to work correctly for me - I'm not seeing any of my other LOs being deleted here. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I created 4 LOs which appeared in my workspace. I selected one and clicked Delete. It disappears. If I refresh the page, it appears in the recycle bin. If I select the Recycle bin, I can click on Delete - the thing in the recycle bin goes away. If I repeat the above, but select an item in the recycle bin and click delete, it still deletes the item, and the other LOs in my workspace remain intact. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 11:53:02 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:53:02 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <675D2DC3-658B-48AB-9880-419C828CD63C@palepurple.co.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBAA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3CBC4834-9BC9-447F-BF13-9FA627CC2079@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBABB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6EA907F4-71F0-4A12-B93A-17A4FC3EE30F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <80F94CC9-2DD7-40B9-AE8A-4C2CA923223B@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <675D2DC3-658B-48AB-9880-419C828CD63C@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> What if the recycle bin is empty? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 06 March 2012 11:52 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) On 6 Mar 2012, at 11:47, Julian Tenney wrote: Have you selected and then de-selected an LO? I think so.... I created 4 LOs which appeared in my workspace. I selected one and clicked Delete. It disappears. If I refresh the page, it appears in the recycle bin. If I select the Recycle bin, I can click on Delete - the thing in the recycle bin goes away. If I repeat the above, but select an item in the recycle bin and click delete, it still deletes the item, and the other LOs in my workspace remain intact. David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Mar 6 12:22:22 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:22:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBAA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3CBC4834-9BC9-447F-BF13-9FA627CC2079@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBABB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6EA907F4-71F0-4A12-B93A-17A4FC3EE30F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <80F94CC9-2DD7-40B9-AE8A-4C2CA923223B@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <675D2DC3-658B-48AB-9880-419C828CD63C@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: A file should appear in the recycle bin without a refresh? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > What if the recycle bin is empty? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 06 March 2012 11:52 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) > > > > > > On 6 Mar 2012, at 11:47, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > Have you selected and then de-selected an LO? > > > > I think so?. > > > > I created 4 LOs which appeared in my workspace. > > > > I selected one and clicked Delete. It disappears. > > > > If I refresh the page, it appears in the recycle bin. > > > > If I select the Recycle bin, I can click on Delete - the thing in the > recycle bin goes away. > > > > If I repeat the above, but select an item in the recycle bin and click > delete, it still deletes the item, and the other LOs in my workspace remain > intact. > > > > David. > > > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > > > Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue Mar 6 12:35:38 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:35:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBAA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3CBC4834-9BC9-447F-BF13-9FA627CC2079@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBABB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6EA907F4-71F0-4A12-B93A-17A4FC3EE30F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <80F94CC9-2DD7-40B9-AE8A-4C2CA923223B@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <675D2DC3-658B-48AB-9880-419C828CD63C@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 6 Mar 2012, at 12:22, Pat Lockley wrote: > A file should appear in the recycle bin without a refresh? > Ah, yes it does - I guess I had the folder 'closed' so didn't see it to start with or something David. 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(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue Mar 6 12:38:08 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:38:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBAA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3CBC4834-9BC9-447F-BF13-9FA627CC2079@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBABB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6EA907F4-71F0-4A12-B93A-17A4FC3EE30F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <80F94CC9-2DD7-40B9-AE8A-4C2CA923223B@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <675D2DC3-658B-48AB-9880-419C828CD63C@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 6 Mar 2012, at 11:53, Julian Tenney wrote: > What if the recycle bin is empty? > If the recycle bin is empty, the 'Delete' button does not become clickable for me (Chrome, OSX) unless I click on an LO. When there's something in the Recycle bin, I can either click on the Recycle bin itself (and then click delete to empty it) or click on LOs within the recycle bin to delete them. thanks David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Mar 6 13:31:24 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:31:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBAA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3CBC4834-9BC9-447F-BF13-9FA627CC2079@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBABB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6EA907F4-71F0-4A12-B93A-17A4FC3EE30F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <80F94CC9-2DD7-40B9-AE8A-4C2CA923223B@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <675D2DC3-658B-48AB-9880-419C828CD63C@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <0C0ADD06-2A83-4B6A-8BE7-069FDB402421@googlemail.com> Not being pedantic but there should be a change of icon too? On 6 Mar 2012, at 12:35, David Goodwin wrote: > > On 6 Mar 2012, at 12:22, Pat Lockley wrote: > >> A file should appear in the recycle bin without a refresh? >> > > > Ah, yes it does - I guess I had the folder 'closed' so didn't see it to start with or something > > David. > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue Mar 6 13:35:47 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:35:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <0C0ADD06-2A83-4B6A-8BE7-069FDB402421@googlemail.com> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBAA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3CBC4834-9BC9-447F-BF13-9FA627CC2079@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBABB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6EA907F4-71F0-4A12-B93A-17A4FC3EE30F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <80F94CC9-2DD7-40B9-AE8A-4C2CA923223B@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <675D2DC3-658B-48AB-9880-419C828CD63C@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0C0ADD06-2A83-4B6A-8BE7-069FDB402421@googlemail.com> Message-ID: On 6 Mar 2012, at 13:31, Pat Lockley wrote: > Not being pedantic but there should be a change of icon too? > Oh, yes there is. It's just not very obvious - given my monitors are fairly large and i'm sat 2-3 feet from them?. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 13:36:46 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:36:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBAA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3CBC4834-9BC9-447F-BF13-9FA627CC2079@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBABB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6EA907F4-71F0-4A12-B93A-17A4FC3EE30F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <80F94CC9-2DD7-40B9-AE8A-4C2CA923223B@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <675D2DC3-658B-48AB-9880-419C828CD63C@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0C0ADD06-2A83-4B6A-8BE7-069FDB402421@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBC57@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Oh, yes there is. It's just not very obvious - given my monitors are fairly large and i'm sat 2-3 feet from them.... Are you the guy from that scene in the Italian Job? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 06 March 2012 13:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) On 6 Mar 2012, at 13:31, Pat Lockley wrote: > Not being pedantic but there should be a change of icon too? > Oh, yes there is. It's just not very obvious - given my monitors are fairly large and i'm sat 2-3 feet from them.... David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Tue Mar 6 14:03:50 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:03:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Fixes last night (XOT) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBC57@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <8F4937B7-EBB3-42E7-A9B7-E2D863963B83@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBAA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <3CBC4834-9BC9-447F-BF13-9FA627CC2079@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBABB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6EA907F4-71F0-4A12-B93A-17A4FC3EE30F@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB73@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <80F94CC9-2DD7-40B9-AE8A-4C2CA923223B@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <675D2DC3-658B-48AB-9880-419C828CD63C@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBB83@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0C0ADD06-2A83-4B6A-8BE7-069FDB402421@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DBC57@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <0D2B9653-B963-42B7-AFD8-5FB588E7F7A3@palepurple.co.uk> On 6 Mar 2012, at 13:36, Julian Tenney wrote: > Oh, yes there is. It's just not very obvious - given my monitors are fairly large and i'm sat 2-3 feet from them.... > > Are you the guy from that scene in the Italian Job? If he's surrounded by gold bars; then no. Unfortunately I don't have any of them - metal or chocolate. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Mar 7 12:47:26 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 12:47:26 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Build Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Guys, Have you got any bright ideas how we can accelerate the test and releasing of all the new work? I don't want to wait a month before we have a working trunk to start testing in earnest. We've won some funding from JISC to do the HTML5 output: we don't need the new build available before we start that, but it would be good to have it pretty soon, and tie off this six monthly effort: loads of good work has gone into it, I'd like to keep the momentum going., and I'd like to launch the new xerte web site at the end of this month: it would be nice if those things all fitted together. Because of the problems that occurred after I merged the files, I have no idea how much work it is to get to a working trunk I can more or less trust. I still wonder if it is quicker and easier for someone who knows the PHP better than I do to: - revert 1.8 to the version Pat checked in and worked - merge that into trunk with some knowledge of what's happening. It seems daft to spend a lot of time putting things straight because I don't know how to solve the conflicts in the files and thus merged them crudely. Also, it's a long time to be without a working set of files to apply any other fixes to. What can we do? J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Wed Mar 7 15:45:41 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:45:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> On 7 Mar 2012, at 12:47, Julian Tenney wrote: > Guys, > > Have you got any bright ideas how we can accelerate the test and releasing of all the new work? I don?t want to wait a month before we have a working trunk to start testing in earnest. > > What can we do? > Test it - and create tickets showing what is broken on trunk currently. Ideally containing any error messages seen or screenshots and steps to reproduce. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Mar 7 16:08:43 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:08:43 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, I'll start doing that. Who shall we assign particular types of bugs to? I'm up for anything to do with templates, and the xerte stuff. Volunteers for other types? Pat and David for all the php? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 07 March 2012 15:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build On 7 Mar 2012, at 12:47, Julian Tenney wrote: Guys, Have you got any bright ideas how we can accelerate the test and releasing of all the new work? I don't want to wait a month before we have a working trunk to start testing in earnest. What can we do? Test it - and create tickets showing what is broken on trunk currently. Ideally containing any error messages seen or screenshots and steps to reproduce. David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From david at palepurple.co.uk Wed Mar 7 16:11:09 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:11:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> On 7 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Julian Tenney wrote: > OK, I?ll start doing that. > > Who shall we assign particular types of bugs to? > > I?m up for anything to do with templates, and the xerte stuff. > > Volunteers for other types? Pat and David for all the php? I'll do whatever I can - but some bugs will require Pat's knowledge of how everything fits together - I have minimal knowledge about how the flash stuff works (for example) David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Mar 7 16:12:54 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:12:54 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Don't worry about the flash stuff, I can do that. Pat's time is scarce, so if we can help him to help us that will get things moving, Cheers From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 07 March 2012 16:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build On 7 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Julian Tenney wrote: OK, I'll start doing that. Who shall we assign particular types of bugs to? I'm up for anything to do with templates, and the xerte stuff. Volunteers for other types? Pat and David for all the php? I'll do whatever I can - but some bugs will require Pat's knowledge of how everything fits together - I have minimal knowledge about how the flash stuff works (for example) David. Pale Purple Ltd. 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Op 7-3-2012 17:12, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Don't worry about the flash stuff, I can do that. Pat's time is > scarce, so if we can help him to help us that will get things moving, > > Cheers > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David > Goodwin > *Sent:* 07 March 2012 16:11 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build > > On 7 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > OK, I'll start doing that. > > Who shall we assign particular types of bugs to? > > I'm up for anything to do with templates, and the xerte stuff. > > Volunteers for other types? Pat and David for all the php? > > I'll do whatever I can - but some bugs will require Pat's knowledge of > how everything fits together - I have minimal knowledge about how the > flash stuff works (for example) > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Mar 7 16:59:09 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:59:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I just have loads on of my own stuff to do (and I don't get anything directly from XOT). The code has been out there for testing for four months after all. I think we sort of need a roadmap though - because now we've got a deadline that is Nottingham's and it is defining everyone's work. But the majority of the work here isn't being done by Nottingham (and is for free). At some point a Nottingham person is going to have to start coding on this again, and it'll be a bit weird (because we've got different coders doing different things, that database queries are sort of PDO in some parts, and not PDO in other parts). I get the feeling this is just a growing pain, but we could do with some thoughts on say What will tag / branch 1.9 be? What sort of coding standards are there (the only thing really I would say is text strings for internationalisation are upper case - but some of the commits are indent changes - so are we going drupal like? I don't mind what we do - it just makes sense for people looking to commit changes they know it'll work. Once we got a commit for the PHP header change for the export code, but I never committed it because it broke Nottingham's export function. This isn't a big deal, but the idea of nightly build, or a test version before approval makes sense? Some sort of PHP doc commenting per file (@file version 1.1 timestamp (unix time at that point?). At the moment there aren't a lot of people supporting the PHP side - and as David says bits are him and bits are me - but I don't understand all of his as well - so there is a point where support will get awkward. If everyone uses bugfixes.txt as well that helps a lot, so all fixes are explained simply and listed for people to use. That way everyone can be on the most up to date version without worrying about anything. I know the SVN does it, as does the RSS feed - but it's not obvious or tied to the install in any place. Pat On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Don?t worry about the flash stuff, I can do that. Pat?s time is scarce, so > if we can help him to help us that will get things moving, > > > > Cheers > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 07 March 2012 16:11 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build > > > > > > On 7 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > OK, I?ll start doing that. > > > > Who shall we assign particular types of bugs to? > > > > I?m up for anything to do with templates, and the xerte stuff. > > > > Volunteers for other types? Pat and David for all the php? > > > > I'll do whatever I can - but some bugs will require Pat's knowledge of how > everything fits together - I have minimal knowledge about how the flash > stuff works (for example) > > > > David. > > > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > > > Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Mar 7 17:10:36 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:10:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge Message-ID: Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears to have killed all the page logic? New code -------------------------------------
echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE . "

"; mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; echo "

" . FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . "

" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION . "
"; echo "
Name" . FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . "
"; /** * Else display the page */ echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits Feedback page

Please leave your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
"; echo "
NameFeedback
"; echo "
"; } ?> --------------------------------------- old code (from the zip) ---------------------------------------
Thank you for your feedback

"; mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
Message
" . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); }else{ /** * Else display the page */ echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits Feedback page

Please leave your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
"; echo "
NameFeedback
"; echo "
"; } ?> --------------------------------------- From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Mar 7 17:12:09 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:12:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2CAC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, I think this is just growing pains as well. I don't want the deadline to sound like we are imposing one: that's not really what I'm driving at, I'm just trying to coordinate several activities, and resources here are scarce. In time we will have people's capacity to look at stuff again. Maybe it's better to be much more incremental, rather than trying so much at once. There has been loads of activity in the last six months, and I'm really grateful for it. I'm hopeful that the PHP will eventually really stabilise - and we can't think of anything it doesn't do (!). I think in the end I'm starting to think of the Xerte Project belonging to the community, rather than to Nottingham - at least that's the direction of travel, with us contributing in part along with everyone else. Our new site is very minimal, just the old one, re-focusing on toolkits as the main product and sorting out some nomenclature re: Xerte 3 which just confuses everyone, and I'm hopeful we get the new community-based site off the ground in the next six months as well. 1.9 will be the first html5 output. I hope, for October. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 07 March 2012 16:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build I just have loads on of my own stuff to do (and I don't get anything directly from XOT). The code has been out there for testing for four months after all. I think we sort of need a roadmap though - because now we've got a deadline that is Nottingham's and it is defining everyone's work. But the majority of the work here isn't being done by Nottingham (and is for free). At some point a Nottingham person is going to have to start coding on this again, and it'll be a bit weird (because we've got different coders doing different things, that database queries are sort of PDO in some parts, and not PDO in other parts). I get the feeling this is just a growing pain, but we could do with some thoughts on say What will tag / branch 1.9 be? What sort of coding standards are there (the only thing really I would say is text strings for internationalisation are upper case - but some of the commits are indent changes - so are we going drupal like? I don't mind what we do - it just makes sense for people looking to commit changes they know it'll work. Once we got a commit for the PHP header change for the export code, but I never committed it because it broke Nottingham's export function. This isn't a big deal, but the idea of nightly build, or a test version before approval makes sense? Some sort of PHP doc commenting per file (@file version 1.1 timestamp (unix time at that point?). At the moment there aren't a lot of people supporting the PHP side - and as David says bits are him and bits are me - but I don't understand all of his as well - so there is a point where support will get awkward. If everyone uses bugfixes.txt as well that helps a lot, so all fixes are explained simply and listed for people to use. That way everyone can be on the most up to date version without worrying about anything. I know the SVN does it, as does the RSS feed - but it's not obvious or tied to the install in any place. Pat On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Don't worry about the flash stuff, I can do that. Pat's time is scarce, so > if we can help him to help us that will get things moving, > > > > Cheers > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 07 March 2012 16:11 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build > > > > > > On 7 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > OK, I'll start doing that. > > > > Who shall we assign particular types of bugs to? > > > > I'm up for anything to do with templates, and the xerte stuff. > > > > Volunteers for other types? Pat and David for all the php? > > > > I'll do whatever I can - but some bugs will require Pat's knowledge of how > everything fits together - I have minimal knowledge about how the flash > stuff works (for example) > > > > David. > > > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > > > Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Mar 7 18:48:13 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 18:48:13 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2CAC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2CAC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I would about increments - but I would see that as a case for a monthly build, or weekly build. Maybe even with a monthly upgrade zip. But then an update remote script like WordPress / Drupal does? I think this is something that sadly, just needs planning out. Yes it is an overhead, but if we know it exists we can sync around it. On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Yes, I think this is just growing pains as well. I don't want the deadline to sound like we are imposing one: that's not really what I'm driving at, I'm just trying to coordinate several activities, and resources here are scarce. In time we will have people's capacity to look at stuff again. Maybe it's better to be much more incremental, rather than trying so much at once. There has been loads of activity in the last six months, and I'm really grateful for it. I'm hopeful that the PHP will eventually really stabilise - and we can't think of anything it doesn't do (!). > > I think in the end I'm starting to think of the Xerte Project belonging to the community, rather than to Nottingham - at least that's the direction of travel, with us contributing in part along with everyone else. Our new site is very minimal, just the old one, re-focusing on toolkits as the main product and sorting out some nomenclature re: Xerte 3 which just confuses everyone, and I'm hopeful we get the new community-based site off the ground in the next six months as well. > > 1.9 will be the first html5 output. I hope, for October. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 07 March 2012 16:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build > > I just have loads on of my own stuff to do (and I don't get anything > directly from XOT). The code has been out there for testing for four > months after all. > > I think we sort of need a roadmap though - because now we've got a > deadline that is Nottingham's and it is defining everyone's work. But > the majority of the work here isn't being done by Nottingham (and is > for free). At some point a Nottingham person is going to have to start > coding on this again, and it'll be a bit weird (because we've got > different coders doing different things, that database queries are > sort of PDO in some parts, and not PDO in other parts). > > I get the feeling this is just a growing pain, but we could do with > some thoughts on say > > What will tag / branch 1.9 be? > > What sort of coding standards are there (the only thing really I would > say is text strings for internationalisation are upper case - but some > of the commits are indent changes - so are we going drupal like? I > don't mind what we do - it just makes sense for people looking to > commit changes they know it'll work. Once we got a commit for the PHP > header change for the export code, but I never committed it because it > broke Nottingham's export function. This isn't a big deal, but the > idea of nightly build, or a test version before approval makes sense? > Some sort of PHP doc commenting per file (@file version 1.1 timestamp > (unix time at that point?). At the moment there aren't a lot of people > supporting the PHP side - and as David says bits are him and bits are > me - but I don't understand all of his as well - so there is a point > where support will get awkward. > > If everyone uses bugfixes.txt as well that helps a lot, so all fixes > are explained simply and listed for people to use. That way everyone > can be on the most up to date version without worrying about anything. > I know the SVN does it, as does the RSS feed - but it's not obvious or > tied to the install in any place. > > Pat > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Don't worry about the flash stuff, I can do that. Pat's time is scarce, so >> if we can help him to help us that will get things moving, >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin >> Sent: 07 March 2012 16:11 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build >> >> >> >> >> >> On 7 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> >> >> OK, I'll start doing that. >> >> >> >> Who shall we assign particular types of bugs to? >> >> >> >> I'm up for anything to do with templates, and the xerte stuff. >> >> >> >> Volunteers for other types? Pat and David for all the php? >> >> >> >> I'll do whatever I can - but some bugs will require Pat's knowledge of how >> everything fits together - I have minimal knowledge about how the flash >> stuff works (for example) >> >> >> >> David. >> >> >> >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >> >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> >> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> >> >> Follow us on Twitter:?@PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Mar 7 19:53:22 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 19:53:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Commits just done Message-ID: Config.php Problem in _load_language_file if path doesn't exist (two files had typos in name). Added a file_exists call - better than a require fail? I thought possibly Index.php Deleted mine by mistake - should be identical as taken from trunk Some language files changes to fix the properties errors and a typo in Peer review Modules/Xerte/Peer.php had some eeeeengggggleeeeeesh in it still. Now removed. Toppie! RSS.PHP - all garbled up, now put back together again (suspect the merge) Website_code/php/fileupload.php - typo in name of language file website_code/php/peer/peer_review.php - typo in name of language file website_code/php/properties/access_template.php - all messed up by the merge i think (code had reappeared that had been taken out). website_code/php/properties/xml_template.php - all messed up by the merge i think (code had reappeared that had been taken out). website_code/php/scorm/export.php added isset check to some variables so as to pass STRICT_WARNINGS and resolved all manner of crazy post mergeness - the file had it's contents copied three times. website_code/php/scorm/scorm_library.php fixed typo in array index for licences (to licence) From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Mar 7 20:02:24 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 20:02:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Testing Message-ID: So pretty much all of what I can test on the three properties panels (folder, publish and template) all work - as do their tied pages (rss, syndication, xml, peer). Peer fails on a lack of email - re the main list - should we suppress pages that can't work? "This page can't work as......." Again - is this best practice? Policies? Thoughts? This leaves the things demo can't test Giving Sharing Testing Access Pat From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Mar 7 21:37:07 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 21:37:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA42D0BF5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Thanks for the commits earlier, and yes, if this all works in xampp, then we need a testing server to test against. Good stuff. ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 07 March 2012 20:02 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Testing So pretty much all of what I can test on the three properties panels (folder, publish and template) all work - as do their tied pages (rss, syndication, xml, peer). Peer fails on a lack of email - re the main list - should we suppress pages that can't work? "This page can't work as......." Again - is this best practice? Policies? Thoughts? This leaves the things demo can't test Giving Sharing Testing Access Pat _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Wed Mar 7 21:50:33 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 21:50:33 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <6C325026-18FF-44D1-AE8F-D44D90C57D1C@palepurple.co.uk> > I think we sort of need a roadmap though - because now we've got a > deadline that is Nottingham's and it is defining everyone's work. But > the majority of the work here isn't being done by Nottingham (and is > for free). At some point a Nottingham person is going to have to start > coding on this again, and it'll be a bit weird (because we've got > different coders doing different things, that database queries are > sort of PDO in some parts, and not PDO in other parts). > The database queries all need moving over to use the db_query()/db_query_one() variants at some point in time. This will remove any chance of SQL Injection, remove the need for the programmer to sanitise variables (as long as they use the prepared statement syntax with ? place holders) and it should result in fewer lines of code. Finally, moving to use db_querY() everywhere means it would be very easy to support other database backends, if that ever becomes desirable. > I get the feeling this is just a growing pain, but we could do with > some thoughts on say > > What will tag / branch 1.9 be? > 1.9 should be a branch - as you work in branches. Tags should be static and unchanging - so e.g. the 1.9.0 release would be a tag, but work would probably continue in the 1.9 branch as you fix bugs - eventually leading to a 1.9.1 release/tag. > What sort of coding standards are there (the only thing really I would > say is text strings for internationalisation are upper case - but some > of the commits are indent changes That's mostly me. My editor will reindent most stuff for me, and I find it easier to read if it's not consistent. > - so are we going drupal like? I > don't mind what we do - it just makes sense for people looking to > commit changes they know it'll work. Once we got a commit for the PHP > header change for the export code, but I never committed it because it > broke Nottingham's export function. This isn't a big deal, but the > idea of nightly build, or a test version before approval makes sense? You're almost straying into Continuous Integration territory. For that to work you need unit tests in place, and your code base isn't really setup to support them. > > If everyone uses bugfixes.txt as well that helps a lot, so all fixes > are explained simply and listed for people to use. That way everyone > can be on the most up to date version without worrying about anything. > I know the SVN does it, as does the RSS feed - but it's not obvious or > tied to the install in any place. > bugfixes.txt? I'd rather we had issues created on the google code tracker. You need to record changes/history around defects. I do think we need a simple 'version.txt' file or similar in the document root; but that's a slightly different issue. Other projects will also have a 'changelog.txt' file- which is sort of linked to version.txt - and presumably details what's changed/been fixed/added between releases. thanks, David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Mar 7 22:11:27 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 22:11:27 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <6C325026-18FF-44D1-AE8F-D44D90C57D1C@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6C325026-18FF-44D1-AE8F-D44D90C57D1C@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <3171D290-1232-4FE8-852B-E1847C18E8A6@googlemail.com> > >> > >> I get the feeling this is just a growing pain, but we could do with >> some thoughts on say >> >> What will tag / branch 1.9 be? >> > > 1.9 should be a branch - as you work in branches. Tags should be static and unchanging - so e.g. the 1.9.0 release would be a tag, but work would probably continue in the 1.9 branch as you fix bugs - eventually leading to a 1.9.1 release/tag Yep I get what the branch is as a concept but not what the work will be - so swapping all queries could be the goal, but who makes the call? Internationalisation made sense to me as a step - something I felt I could do. Database abstraction layers doesn't really feel as nice. > >> What sort of coding standards are there (the only thing really I would >> say is text strings for internationalisation are upper case - but some >> of the commits are indent changes > > That's mostly me. My editor will reindent most stuff for me, and I find it easier to read if it's not consistent Yep, alls good. I meant more should I aim for something? > >> - so are we going drupal like? I >> don't mind what we do - it just makes sense for people looking to >> commit changes they know it'll work. Once we got a commit for the PHP >> header change for the export code, but I never committed it because it >> broke Nottingham's export function. This isn't a big deal, but the >> idea of nightly build, or a test version before approval makes sense? > > You're almost straying into Continuous Integration territory. For that to work you need unit tests in place, and your code base isn't really setup to support them Yep. Was about to mumble about selenium or jenkins. Agree the code is miles off, but does it offer scope for a 1.9 or next step. Am convinced people only like drupal as it supports this kinda stuff. > >> >> If everyone uses bugfixes.txt as well that helps a lot, so all fixes >> are explained simply and listed for people to use. That way everyone >> can be on the most up to date version without worrying about anything. >> I know the SVN does it, as does the RSS feed - but it's not obvious or >> tied to the install in any place. >> > > bugfixes.txt? There used to be a bugfixes.txt in the zip, which sounds like a changelog.txt Suggest we add a version.txt and a changelog.txt to the zip in future then? Just making sure the process is a little smoother in future. Just thoughts Pat From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 08:32:44 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 08:32:44 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears to have killed all the page logic? New code -------------------------------------
echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE . "

"; mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; echo "

" . FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . "

" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION . "
"; echo "
Name" . FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . "
"; /** * Else display the page */ echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits Feedback page

Please leave your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
"; echo "
NameFeedback
"; echo "
"; } ?> --------------------------------------- old code (from the zip) ---------------------------------------
Thank you for your feedback

"; mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
Message
" . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); }else{ /** * Else display the page */ echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits Feedback page

Please leave your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
"; echo "
NameFeedback
"; echo "
"; } ?> --------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 09:09:31 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 09:09:31 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <6C325026-18FF-44D1-AE8F-D44D90C57D1C@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6C325026-18FF-44D1-AE8F-D44D90C57D1C@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2DB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'd rather we had issues created on the google code tracker. You need to record changes/history around defects. Same here. The list of bug fixes is too long to of use to most people, and you can examine the issues tracked on google code after they've been closed if there is a particular issue you really care about. We do need to include a clear statement of the version somewhere, so I just updated version.txt ;-) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 07 March 2012 21:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build > I think we sort of need a roadmap though - because now we've got a > deadline that is Nottingham's and it is defining everyone's work. But > the majority of the work here isn't being done by Nottingham (and is > for free). At some point a Nottingham person is going to have to start > coding on this again, and it'll be a bit weird (because we've got > different coders doing different things, that database queries are > sort of PDO in some parts, and not PDO in other parts). > The database queries all need moving over to use the db_query()/db_query_one() variants at some point in time. This will remove any chance of SQL Injection, remove the need for the programmer to sanitise variables (as long as they use the prepared statement syntax with ? place holders) and it should result in fewer lines of code. Finally, moving to use db_querY() everywhere means it would be very easy to support other database backends, if that ever becomes desirable. > I get the feeling this is just a growing pain, but we could do with > some thoughts on say > > What will tag / branch 1.9 be? > 1.9 should be a branch - as you work in branches. Tags should be static and unchanging - so e.g. the 1.9.0 release would be a tag, but work would probably continue in the 1.9 branch as you fix bugs - eventually leading to a 1.9.1 release/tag. > What sort of coding standards are there (the only thing really I would > say is text strings for internationalisation are upper case - but some > of the commits are indent changes That's mostly me. My editor will reindent most stuff for me, and I find it easier to read if it's not consistent. > - so are we going drupal like? I > don't mind what we do - it just makes sense for people looking to > commit changes they know it'll work. Once we got a commit for the PHP > header change for the export code, but I never committed it because it > broke Nottingham's export function. This isn't a big deal, but the > idea of nightly build, or a test version before approval makes sense? You're almost straying into Continuous Integration territory. For that to work you need unit tests in place, and your code base isn't really setup to support them. > > If everyone uses bugfixes.txt as well that helps a lot, so all fixes > are explained simply and listed for people to use. That way everyone > can be on the most up to date version without worrying about anything. > I know the SVN does it, as does the RSS feed - but it's not obvious or > tied to the install in any place. > bugfixes.txt? I'd rather we had issues created on the google code tracker. You need to record changes/history around defects. I do think we need a simple 'version.txt' file or similar in the document root; but that's a slightly different issue. Other projects will also have a 'changelog.txt' file- which is sort of linked to version.txt - and presumably details what's changed/been fixed/added between releases. thanks, David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 09:42:46 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 09:42:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The trunk I've not made a commit for this page On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge > > Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears > to have killed all the page logic? > > New code > > ------------------------------------- > > ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE . "

"; > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, > FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . > FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . > mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), > $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); > > ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . > "

margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION . "
style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
Name" . > FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . " FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; > > ? ?/** > ? ? * ?Else display the page > ? ? */ > > ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits > Feedback page

position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback > here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and > if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in > the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; > > ? ?echo "
NameFeedback value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; > > ? ?echo "
"; > > } > > ?> > ? ? > > --------------------------------------- > > old code (from the zip) > --------------------------------------- > >
> > * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback > ?*/ > > if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ > > ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; > > ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", > "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
Message
" > . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), > $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); > > }else{ > > ? ?/** > ? ? * ?Else display the page > ? ? */ > > ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits > Feedback page

position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback > here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and > if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in > the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; > > ? ?echo "
NameFeedback value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; > > ? ?echo "
"; > > } > > ?> > ? ? > > --------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 09:52:27 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 09:52:27 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2DB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6C325026-18FF-44D1-AE8F-D44D90C57D1C@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2DB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: But if it's only a list of the files replaced between versions then someone wanting to know which files to swap can do it really easily. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I'd rather we had issues created on the google code tracker. You need to record changes/history around defects. > > Same here. The list of bug fixes is too long to of use to most people, and you can examine the issues tracked on google code after they've been closed if there is a particular issue you really care about. > > We do need to include a clear statement of the version somewhere, so I just updated version.txt ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 07 March 2012 21:51 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build > > >> I think we sort of need a roadmap though - because now we've got a >> deadline that is Nottingham's and it is defining everyone's work. But >> the majority of the work here isn't being done by Nottingham (and is >> for free). At some point a Nottingham person is going to have to start >> coding on this again, and it'll be a bit weird (because we've got >> different coders doing different things, that database queries are >> sort of PDO in some parts, and not PDO in other parts). >> > > The database queries all need moving over to use the db_query()/db_query_one() variants at some point in time. This will remove any chance of SQL Injection, remove the need for the programmer to sanitise variables (as long as they use the prepared statement syntax with ? place holders) and it should result in fewer lines of code. > > Finally, moving to use db_querY() everywhere means it would be very easy to support other database backends, if that ever becomes desirable. > > >> I get the feeling this is just a growing pain, but we could do with >> some thoughts on say >> >> What will tag / branch 1.9 be? >> > > 1.9 should be a branch - as you work in branches. Tags should be static and unchanging - so e.g. the 1.9.0 release would be a tag, but work would probably continue in the 1.9 branch as you fix bugs - eventually leading to a 1.9.1 release/tag. > > >> What sort of coding standards are there (the only thing really I would >> say is text strings for internationalisation are upper case - but some >> of the commits are indent changes > > That's mostly me. My editor will reindent most stuff for me, and I find it easier to read if it's not consistent. > > >> - so are we going drupal like? I >> don't mind what we do - it just makes sense for people looking to >> commit changes they know it'll work. Once we got a commit for the PHP >> header change for the export code, but I never committed it because it >> broke Nottingham's export function. This isn't a big deal, but the >> idea of nightly build, or a test version before approval makes sense? > > You're almost straying into Continuous Integration territory. For that to work you need unit tests in place, and your code base isn't really setup to support them. > > >> >> If everyone uses bugfixes.txt as well that helps a lot, so all fixes >> are explained simply and listed for people to use. That way everyone >> can be on the most up to date version without worrying about anything. >> I know the SVN does it, as does the RSS feed - but it's not obvious or >> tied to the install in any place. >> > > bugfixes.txt? > > I'd rather we had issues created on the google code tracker. You need to record changes/history around defects. > > I do think we need a simple 'version.txt' file or similar in the document root; but that's a slightly different issue. Other projects will also have a 'changelog.txt' file- which is sort of linked to version.txt - and presumably details what's changed/been fixed/added between releases. > > thanks, > > David. > > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu Mar 8 09:59:24 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 09:59:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6C325026-18FF-44D1-AE8F-D44D90C57D1C@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2DB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <9ED0E10D-1D86-4D4A-9642-A1164215DF3B@palepurple.co.uk> On 8 Mar 2012, at 09:52, Pat Lockley wrote: > But if it's only a list of the files replaced between versions then > someone wanting to know which files to swap can do it really easily. > Surely we'd be better off telling people to download the .zip and extract it over the top of the existing site - just taking care not to overwrite index.php? Alternatively the change log could look like : Version 1.1 2015/01/25 * config.php - fix issue with language loading * database_functions.php - add new methods * index.php - move to html5 Version 1.0 2013/02/26 * /path/to/whatever.swf - new flash blah blah blah * path/to/something.xwd - new flash blah blah blah and so on? David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 10:24:40 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:24:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Can you? Or do you want me to? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge The trunk I've not made a commit for this page On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge > > Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears > to have killed all the page logic? > > New code > > ------------------------------------- > > ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE . "

"; > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, > FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . > FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . > mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), > $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); > > ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . > "

margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION . "
style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
Name" . > FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . " FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; > > ? ?/** > ? ? * ?Else display the page > ? ? */ > > ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits > Feedback page

position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback > here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and > if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in > the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; > > ? ?echo "
NameFeedback value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; > > ? ?echo "
"; > > } > > ?> > ? ? > > --------------------------------------- > > old code (from the zip) > --------------------------------------- > >
> > * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback > ?*/ > > if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ > > ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; > > ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", > "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
Message
" > . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), > $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); > > }else{ > > ? ?/** > ? ? * ?Else display the page > ? ? */ > > ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits > Feedback page

position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback > here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and > if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in > the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; > > ? ?echo "
NameFeedback value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; > > ? ?echo "
"; > > } > > ?> > ? ? > > --------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 10:26:45 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:26:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <9ED0E10D-1D86-4D4A-9642-A1164215DF3B@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6C325026-18FF-44D1-AE8F-D44D90C57D1C@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2DB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <9ED0E10D-1D86-4D4A-9642-A1164215DF3B@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: that is how bugfixes used to look - so am happy if changelog resembles that. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:59 AM, David Goodwin wrote: > > On 8 Mar 2012, at 09:52, Pat Lockley wrote: > >> But if it's only a list of the files replaced between versions then >> someone wanting to know which files to swap can do it really easily. >> > > Surely we'd be better off telling people to download the .zip and extract it over the top of the existing site - just taking care not to overwrite index.php? > > Alternatively the change log could look like : > > Version 1.1 2015/01/25 > > ?* config.php - fix issue with language loading > ?* database_functions.php - add new methods > ?* index.php - move to html5 > > Version 1.0 2013/02/26 > > ?* /path/to/whatever.swf - new flash blah blah blah > ?* path/to/something.xwd - new flash blah blah blah > > and so on? > > David. > > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 10:27:15 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:27:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use mail On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Can you? Or do you want me to? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > The trunk > > I've not made a commit for this page > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >> to have killed all the page logic? >> >> New code >> >> ------------------------------------- >> >> ? ?
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE . "

"; >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >> >> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >> "

> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION . "
> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
Name" . >> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . "> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >> >> ? ?/** >> ? ? * ?Else display the page >> ? ? */ >> >> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >> Feedback page

> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >> >> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >> >> ? ?echo "
"; >> >> } >> >> ?> >> ? ? >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> old code (from the zip) >> --------------------------------------- >> >>
>> >> > * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >> ?*/ >> >> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >> >> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >> >> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
Message
" >> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >> >> }else{ >> >> ? ?/** >> ? ? * ?Else display the page >> ? ? */ >> >> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >> Feedback page

> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >> >> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >> >> ? ?echo "
"; >> >> } >> >> ?> >> ? ? >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 10:34:37 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:34:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test it either. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use mail On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Can you? Or do you want me to? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > The trunk > > I've not made a commit for this page > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >> to have killed all the page logic? >> >> New code >> >> ------------------------------------- >> >> ? ?
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE . "

"; >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >> >> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >> "

> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION . "
> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
Name" . >> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . "> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >> >> ? ?/** >> ? ? * ?Else display the page >> ? ? */ >> >> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >> Feedback page

> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >> >> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >> >> ? ?echo "
"; >> >> } >> >> ?> >> ? ? >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> old code (from the zip) >> --------------------------------------- >> >>
>> >> > * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >> ?*/ >> >> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >> >> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >> >> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
Message
" >> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >> >> }else{ >> >> ? ?/** >> ? ? * ?Else display the page >> ? ? */ >> >> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >> Feedback page

> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >> >> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >> >> ? ?echo "
"; >> >> } >> >> ?> >> ? ? >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Mar 8 10:40:28 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 11:40:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> I'll test it (not today though) Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: > OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test it either. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use mail > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Can you? Or do you want me to? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> The trunk >> >> I've not made a commit for this page >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>> >>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>> to have killed all the page logic? >>> >>> New code >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> >>>
>>> >>> echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE ."

"; >>> >>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>> >>> echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>> >>> echo "

" . FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>> "

>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>> >>> echo "
Name" . >>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>> >>> /** >>> * Else display the page >>> */ >>> >>> echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>> Feedback page

>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>> >>> echo "
NameFeedback>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>> >>> echo "
"; >>> >>> } >>> >>> ?> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------- >>> >>> old code (from the zip) >>> --------------------------------------- >>> >>>
>>> >>> >> * If something is posted, send this feedback >>> */ >>> >>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>> >>> echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>> >>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>> >>> }else{ >>> >>> /** >>> * Else display the page >>> */ >>> >>> echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>> Feedback page

>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>> >>> echo "
NameFeedback>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>> >>> echo "
"; >>> >>> } >>> >>> ?> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 11:16:14 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:16:14 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> Message-ID: This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we enable pages that won't work. This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I'll test it (not today though) > > Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: > >> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test >> it either. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use >> mail >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >> ?wrote: >>> >>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>> >>> The trunk >>> >>> I've not made a commit for this page >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>> ?wrote: >>>> >>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>> >>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>>> to have killed all the page logic? >>>> >>>> New code >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> ? ?
>>>> >>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>> ."

"; >>>> >>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>> >>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>> >>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . >>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>> "

>>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>> >>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>> >>>> ? ?/** >>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>> ? ? */ >>>> >>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>> Feedback page

>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>> >>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>> >>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>> >>>> } >>>> >>>> ?> >>>> ? ? >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> old code (from the zip) >>>> --------------------------------------- >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>> * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >>>> ?*/ >>>> >>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>> >>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>> >>>> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>> >>>> }else{ >>>> >>>> ? ?/** >>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>> ? ? */ >>>> >>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>> Feedback page

>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>> >>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>> >>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>> >>>> } >>>> >>>> ?> >>>> ? ? >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with >>>> the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>> legislation. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From i.donkervoort at 12change.eu Thu Mar 8 11:18:44 2012 From: i.donkervoort at 12change.eu (Inge Donkervoort 12Change) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 12:18:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2CAC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2CAC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F589594.4070603@12change.eu> Hi Julian, The community website (www.xerte.org.uk) is technically up and and running. I will try to work on it next week and hope to show you all the first version in a week or two (very basic version) If you agree then we can try to release it together with the new 1.8 version of XOT. Bye, Inge 12Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 7-3-2012 18:12, Julian Tenney schreef: > Yes, I think this is just growing pains as well. I don't want the deadline to sound like we are imposing one: that's not really what I'm driving at, I'm just trying to coordinate several activities, and resources here are scarce. In time we will have people's capacity to look at stuff again. Maybe it's better to be much more incremental, rather than trying so much at once. There has been loads of activity in the last six months, and I'm really grateful for it. I'm hopeful that the PHP will eventually really stabilise - and we can't think of anything it doesn't do (!). > > I think in the end I'm starting to think of the Xerte Project belonging to the community, rather than to Nottingham - at least that's the direction of travel, with us contributing in part along with everyone else. Our new site is very minimal, just the old one, re-focusing on toolkits as the main product and sorting out some nomenclature re: Xerte 3 which just confuses everyone, and I'm hopeful we get the new community-based site off the ground in the next six months as well. > > 1.9 will be the first html5 output. I hope, for October. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 07 March 2012 16:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build > > I just have loads on of my own stuff to do (and I don't get anything > directly from XOT). The code has been out there for testing for four > months after all. > > I think we sort of need a roadmap though - because now we've got a > deadline that is Nottingham's and it is defining everyone's work. But > the majority of the work here isn't being done by Nottingham (and is > for free). At some point a Nottingham person is going to have to start > coding on this again, and it'll be a bit weird (because we've got > different coders doing different things, that database queries are > sort of PDO in some parts, and not PDO in other parts). > > I get the feeling this is just a growing pain, but we could do with > some thoughts on say > > What will tag / branch 1.9 be? > > What sort of coding standards are there (the only thing really I would > say is text strings for internationalisation are upper case - but some > of the commits are indent changes - so are we going drupal like? I > don't mind what we do - it just makes sense for people looking to > commit changes they know it'll work. Once we got a commit for the PHP > header change for the export code, but I never committed it because it > broke Nottingham's export function. This isn't a big deal, but the > idea of nightly build, or a test version before approval makes sense? > Some sort of PHP doc commenting per file (@file version 1.1 timestamp > (unix time at that point?). At the moment there aren't a lot of people > supporting the PHP side - and as David says bits are him and bits are > me - but I don't understand all of his as well - so there is a point > where support will get awkward. > > If everyone uses bugfixes.txt as well that helps a lot, so all fixes > are explained simply and listed for people to use. That way everyone > can be on the most up to date version without worrying about anything. > I know the SVN does it, as does the RSS feed - but it's not obvious or > tied to the install in any place. > > Pat > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Don't worry about the flash stuff, I can do that. Pat's time is scarce, so >> if we can help him to help us that will get things moving, >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin >> Sent: 07 March 2012 16:11 >> >> >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build >> >> >> >> >> >> On 7 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> >> >> OK, I'll start doing that. >> >> >> >> Who shall we assign particular types of bugs to? >> >> >> >> I'm up for anything to do with templates, and the xerte stuff. >> >> >> >> Volunteers for other types? Pat and David for all the php? >> >> >> >> I'll do whatever I can - but some bugs will require Pat's knowledge of how >> everything fits together - I have minimal knowledge about how the flash >> stuff works (for example) >> >> >> >> David. >> >> >> >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >> >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 12:30:41 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:30:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> Message-ID: Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs as certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley wrote: > This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we enable > pages that won't work. > > This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I'll test it (not today though) >> >> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test >>> it either. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>> >>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use >>> mail >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>> ?wrote: >>>> >>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>> >>>> The trunk >>>> >>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>> >>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>>>> to have killed all the page logic? >>>>> >>>>> New code >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> ? ?
>>>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>> ."

"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . >>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>> "

>>>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?/** >>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>> ? ? */ >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>> Feedback page

>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>> >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> ?> >>>>> ? ? >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> >>>> * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>> ?*/ >>>>> >>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>>>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>> >>>>> }else{ >>>>> >>>>> ? ?/** >>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>> ? ? */ >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>> Feedback page

>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>> >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> ?> >>>>> ? ? >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>>>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>> any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>> the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>> system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 12:57:26 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:57:26 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <4F589594.4070603@12change.eu> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2CAC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F589594.4070603@12change.eu> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2FED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Brilliant, thanks. If you need any help, let me know, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge Donkervoort 12Change Sent: 08 March 2012 11:19 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build Hi Julian, The community website (www.xerte.org.uk) is technically up and and running. I will try to work on it next week and hope to show you all the first version in a week or two (very basic version) If you agree then we can try to release it together with the new 1.8 version of XOT. Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 7-3-2012 18:12, Julian Tenney schreef: Yes, I think this is just growing pains as well. I don't want the deadline to sound like we are imposing one: that's not really what I'm driving at, I'm just trying to coordinate several activities, and resources here are scarce. In time we will have people's capacity to look at stuff again. Maybe it's better to be much more incremental, rather than trying so much at once. There has been loads of activity in the last six months, and I'm really grateful for it. I'm hopeful that the PHP will eventually really stabilise - and we can't think of anything it doesn't do (!). I think in the end I'm starting to think of the Xerte Project belonging to the community, rather than to Nottingham - at least that's the direction of travel, with us contributing in part along with everyone else. Our new site is very minimal, just the old one, re-focusing on toolkits as the main product and sorting out some nomenclature re: Xerte 3 which just confuses everyone, and I'm hopeful we get the new community-based site off the ground in the next six months as well. 1.9 will be the first html5 output. I hope, for October. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 07 March 2012 16:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build I just have loads on of my own stuff to do (and I don't get anything directly from XOT). The code has been out there for testing for four months after all. I think we sort of need a roadmap though - because now we've got a deadline that is Nottingham's and it is defining everyone's work. But the majority of the work here isn't being done by Nottingham (and is for free). At some point a Nottingham person is going to have to start coding on this again, and it'll be a bit weird (because we've got different coders doing different things, that database queries are sort of PDO in some parts, and not PDO in other parts). I get the feeling this is just a growing pain, but we could do with some thoughts on say What will tag / branch 1.9 be? What sort of coding standards are there (the only thing really I would say is text strings for internationalisation are upper case - but some of the commits are indent changes - so are we going drupal like? I don't mind what we do - it just makes sense for people looking to commit changes they know it'll work. Once we got a commit for the PHP header change for the export code, but I never committed it because it broke Nottingham's export function. This isn't a big deal, but the idea of nightly build, or a test version before approval makes sense? Some sort of PHP doc commenting per file (@file version 1.1 timestamp (unix time at that point?). At the moment there aren't a lot of people supporting the PHP side - and as David says bits are him and bits are me - but I don't understand all of his as well - so there is a point where support will get awkward. If everyone uses bugfixes.txt as well that helps a lot, so all fixes are explained simply and listed for people to use. That way everyone can be on the most up to date version without worrying about anything. I know the SVN does it, as does the RSS feed - but it's not obvious or tied to the install in any place. Pat On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: Don't worry about the flash stuff, I can do that. Pat's time is scarce, so if we can help him to help us that will get things moving, Cheers From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 07 March 2012 16:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build On 7 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Julian Tenney wrote: OK, I'll start doing that. Who shall we assign particular types of bugs to? I'm up for anything to do with templates, and the xerte stuff. Volunteers for other types? Pat and David for all the php? I'll do whatever I can - but some bugs will require Pat's knowledge of how everything fits together - I have minimal knowledge about how the flash stuff works (for example) David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Mar 8 13:28:20 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 13:28:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build In-Reply-To: <4F589594.4070603@12change.eu> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC146@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1F682561-7083-4C44-A004-6D7FE1189249@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC32B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8BB7128A-D2E9-498A-A163-B3B45599FCB3@palepurple.co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA44DC339@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2CAC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F589594.4070603@12change.eu> Message-ID: Hello Inge, I will be happy to contribute to the content as well. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 March 2012 11:18, Inge Donkervoort 12Change wrote: > Hi Julian, > > The community website (www.xerte.org.uk) is technically up and and > running. I will try to work on it next week and hope to show you all the > first version in a week or two (very basic version) If you agree then we > can try to release it together with the new 1.8 version of XOT. > > Bye, > Inge > > 1 2 Change > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn > > Op 7-3-2012 18:12, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Yes, I think this is just growing pains as well. I don't want the deadline to sound like we are imposing one: that's not really what I'm driving at, I'm just trying to coordinate several activities, and resources here are scarce. In time we will have people's capacity to look at stuff again. Maybe it's better to be much more incremental, rather than trying so much at once. There has been loads of activity in the last six months, and I'm really grateful for it. I'm hopeful that the PHP will eventually really stabilise - and we can't think of anything it doesn't do (!). > > I think in the end I'm starting to think of the Xerte Project belonging to the community, rather than to Nottingham - at least that's the direction of travel, with us contributing in part along with everyone else. Our new site is very minimal, just the old one, re-focusing on toolkits as the main product and sorting out some nomenclature re: Xerte 3 which just confuses everyone, and I'm hopeful we get the new community-based site off the ground in the next six months as well. > > 1.9 will be the first html5 output. I hope, for October. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 07 March 2012 16:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build > > I just have loads on of my own stuff to do (and I don't get anything > directly from XOT). The code has been out there for testing for four > months after all. > > I think we sort of need a roadmap though - because now we've got a > deadline that is Nottingham's and it is defining everyone's work. But > the majority of the work here isn't being done by Nottingham (and is > for free). At some point a Nottingham person is going to have to start > coding on this again, and it'll be a bit weird (because we've got > different coders doing different things, that database queries are > sort of PDO in some parts, and not PDO in other parts). > > I get the feeling this is just a growing pain, but we could do with > some thoughts on say > > What will tag / branch 1.9 be? > > What sort of coding standards are there (the only thing really I would > say is text strings for internationalisation are upper case - but some > of the commits are indent changes - so are we going drupal like? I > don't mind what we do - it just makes sense for people looking to > commit changes they know it'll work. Once we got a commit for the PHP > header change for the export code, but I never committed it because it > broke Nottingham's export function. This isn't a big deal, but the > idea of nightly build, or a test version before approval makes sense? > Some sort of PHP doc commenting per file (@file version 1.1 timestamp > (unix time at that point?). At the moment there aren't a lot of people > supporting the PHP side - and as David says bits are him and bits are > me - but I don't understand all of his as well - so there is a point > where support will get awkward. > > If everyone uses bugfixes.txt as well that helps a lot, so all fixes > are explained simply and listed for people to use. That way everyone > can be on the most up to date version without worrying about anything. > I know the SVN does it, as does the RSS feed - but it's not obvious or > tied to the install in any place. > > Pat > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Don't worry about the flash stuff, I can do that. Pat's time is scarce, so > if we can help him to help us that will get things moving, > > > > Cheers > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 07 March 2012 16:11 > > > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Build > > > > > > On 7 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > OK, I'll start doing that. > > > > Who shall we assign particular types of bugs to? > > > > I'm up for anything to do with templates, and the xerte stuff. > > > > Volunteers for other types? Pat and David for all the php? > > > > I'll do whatever I can - but some bugs will require Pat's knowledge of how > everything fits together - I have minimal knowledge about how the flash > stuff works (for example) > > > > David. > > > > > > Pale Purple Ltd. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 14:13:15 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 14:13:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Is it just a case of remove the includes? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs as certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley wrote: > This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we enable > pages that won't work. > > This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> I'll test it (not today though) >> >> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test >>> it either. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>> >>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use >>> mail >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>> ?wrote: >>>> >>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>> >>>> The trunk >>>> >>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>> >>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>>>> to have killed all the page logic? >>>>> >>>>> New code >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> ? ?
>>>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>> ."

"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . >>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>> "

>>>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?/** >>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>> ? ? */ >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>> Feedback page

>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>> >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> ?> >>>>> ? ? >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> >>>> * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>> ?*/ >>>>> >>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>>>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>> >>>>> }else{ >>>>> >>>>> ? ?/** >>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>> ? ? */ >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>> Feedback page

>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>> >>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>> >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> ?> >>>>> ? ? >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>>>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>> any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>> the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>> system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 14:14:26 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 14:14:26 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, depends on the functionality. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Is it just a case of remove the includes? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs as > certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley > wrote: >> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we enable >> pages that won't work. >> >> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> I'll test it (not today though) >>> >>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> >>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test >>>> it either. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>> >>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use >>>> mail >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>> >>>>> The trunk >>>>> >>>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>> >>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>>>>> to have killed all the page logic? >>>>>> >>>>>> New code >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?
>>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>>> ."

"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . >>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>>> "

>>>>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> ?> >>>>>> ? ? >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>>> ?*/ >>>>>> >>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>>>>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>> >>>>>> }else{ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> ?> >>>>>> ? ? >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 14:18:11 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 14:18:11 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I added it as an issue, labelled 'feature request'. Not sure if google code has any direct support for feature requests. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 08 March 2012 14:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, depends on the functionality. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Is it just a case of remove the includes? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs as > certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley > wrote: >> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we enable >> pages that won't work. >> >> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> I'll test it (not today though) >>> >>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> >>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test >>>> it either. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>> >>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use >>>> mail >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>> >>>>> The trunk >>>>> >>>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>> >>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>>>>> to have killed all the page logic? >>>>>> >>>>>> New code >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?
>>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>>> ."

"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . >>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>>> "

>>>>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> ?> >>>>>> ? ? >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>>> ?*/ >>>>>> >>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>>>>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>> >>>>>> }else{ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> ?> >>>>>> ? ? >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>>>>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>> any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>>> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment >>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>> the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>> system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 14:24:09 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 14:24:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> There is now: you can add you own issue templates. Add any others that are useful. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 March 2012 14:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge I added it as an issue, labelled 'feature request'. Not sure if google code has any direct support for feature requests. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 08 March 2012 14:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, depends on the functionality. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Is it just a case of remove the includes? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs as > certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley > wrote: >> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we enable >> pages that won't work. >> >> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> I'll test it (not today though) >>> >>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> >>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test >>>> it either. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>> >>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use >>>> mail >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>> >>>>> The trunk >>>>> >>>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>> >>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>>>>> to have killed all the page logic? >>>>>> >>>>>> New code >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?
>>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>>> ."

"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . >>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>>> "

>>>>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> ?> >>>>>> ? ? >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>>> ?*/ >>>>>> >>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>>>>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>> >>>>>> }else{ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>> >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> ?> >>>>>> ? ? >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>>>>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>> any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>>> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment >>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>> the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>> system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 14:26:07 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 14:26:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: it's not just standalone for example. Peer review / feedback won't work if there is no email - this is on full installs as well. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > There is now: you can add you own issue templates. Add any others that are useful. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:18 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > I added it as an issue, labelled 'feature request'. Not sure if google code has any direct support for feature requests. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:14 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, > depends on the functionality. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Is it just a case of remove the includes? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs as >> certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley >> wrote: >>> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we enable >>> pages that won't work. >>> >>> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I'll test it (not today though) >>>> >>>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> >>>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test >>>>> it either. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>> >>>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use >>>>> mail >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>> >>>>>> The trunk >>>>>> >>>>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>>>>>> to have killed all the page logic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New code >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>>>> ."

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>>>> "

>>>>>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
>>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>> ? ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>>>> ?*/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>>>>>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>> >>>>>>> }else{ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>> ? ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>>>>>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>>> any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>>>> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>> system: >>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment >>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 14:26:42 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 14:26:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3074@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Update the issue! -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 08 March 2012 14:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge it's not just standalone for example. Peer review / feedback won't work if there is no email - this is on full installs as well. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > There is now: you can add you own issue templates. Add any others that are useful. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:18 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > I added it as an issue, labelled 'feature request'. Not sure if google code has any direct support for feature requests. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:14 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, > depends on the functionality. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Is it just a case of remove the includes? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs as >> certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley >> wrote: >>> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we enable >>> pages that won't work. >>> >>> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I'll test it (not today though) >>>> >>>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> >>>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test >>>>> it either. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>> >>>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use >>>>> mail >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>> >>>>>> The trunk >>>>>> >>>>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>>>>>> to have killed all the page logic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New code >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>>>> ."

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>>>> "

>>>>>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "
>>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /** >>>>>>> * Else display the page >>>>>>> */ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> * If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>>>> */ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>>>>>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>> >>>>>>> }else{ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /** >>>>>>> * Else display the page >>>>>>> */ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>>>>>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>>> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>>>> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>> system: >>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment >>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 14:29:23 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 14:29:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3074@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3074@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: but it isn't per say just an issue - it's a developer question - should we disable functionality if it won't work. So on index.php - i should probably disable the entire feedback pod because feedback won't work. Now I might have seen an install where feedback works, and it won't be there in my install Take within Xerte, if the proxy + ports aren't set, then wikipedia and rss pages shouldn't be there as they won't work. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Update the issue! > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:26 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > it's not just standalone for example. > > Peer review / feedback won't work if there is no email - this is on > full installs as well. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> There is now: you can add you own issue templates. Add any others that are useful. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 08 March 2012 14:18 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> I added it as an issue, labelled 'feature request'. Not sure if google code has any direct support for feature requests. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 08 March 2012 14:14 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, >> depends on the functionality. >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> Is it just a case of remove the includes? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>> >>> Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs as >>> certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley >>> wrote: >>>> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we enable >>>> pages that won't work. >>>> >>>> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> I'll test it (not today though) >>>>> >>>>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> >>>>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test >>>>>> it either. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>> >>>>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use >>>>>> mail >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The trunk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>>>>>>> to have killed all the page logic? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> New code >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>>>>> ."

"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>>>>> "

>>>>>>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
>>>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>>> ? ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>>>>> ?*/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>>>>>>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> }else{ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>>> ? ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>>>>>>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>>>> any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>>>>> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>>> system: >>>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>> system: >>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment >>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Mar 8 15:11:42 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 15:11:42 -0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00b301ccfd3d$c6d238c0$5476aa40$@co.uk> sorry busy with other things over the last day or so but would add the following... 1. Personally I don't think it's worth hiding stuff when demo.php is used - people familiar enough to look at the sharing and peer review etc will know or at least discover that those features won't work via a local install using demo.php. Also the relative position of tabs and links maintains consistency and for instance some people use a localhost install using demo.php to take screenshots for training material etc. Also after all this time why change it now. However what I do think is worth doing is including a visual message in demo.php which displays to anyone browsing to it that demo.php or whatever it might be renamed to should not be used in a public facing production environment apart from perhaps testing. There are public facing installs out there with demo.php accessible! 2. I can test the latest version including the feedback page mail processing - but is everything in place now or are there pages still to be committed? 3. Happy to contribute to the community site too. 4. Jonathan - where are you add with merging my new hotspot page with yours? We have different perspectives on this but I want to ensure that this is part of the new release. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 08 March 2012 14:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge it's not just standalone for example. Peer review / feedback won't work if there is no email - this is on full installs as well. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > There is now: you can add you own issue templates. Add any others that are useful. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:18 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > I added it as an issue, labelled 'feature request'. Not sure if google code has any direct support for feature requests. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:14 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, > depends on the functionality. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Is it just a case of remove the includes? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs >> as certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley >> wrote: >>> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we >>> enable pages that won't work. >>> >>> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I'll test it (not today though) >>>> >>>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> >>>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I >>>>> can't test it either. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>> Lockley >>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>> >>>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't >>>>> use mail >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>> >>>>>> The trunk >>>>>> >>>>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge >>>>>>> appears to have killed all the page logic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New code >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>>>> ."

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >>>>>>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your >>>>>>> feedback

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>>>> "

>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION >>>>>>> ."
>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
>>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line >>>>>>> Toolkits Feedback page

>>>>>> float:left; position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave >>>>>>> your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would >>>>>>> like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite >>>>>>> and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS >>>>>>> Learning Team.
>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>> ? ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>>>> ?*/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your >>>>>>> feedback

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online >>>>>>> Feedback", "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>> >>>>>>> }else{ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line >>>>>>> Toolkits Feedback page

>>>>>> float:left; position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave >>>>>>> your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would >>>>>>> like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite >>>>>>> and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS >>>>>>> Learning Team.
>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>> ? ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>>>> immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any >>>>>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>>>>> your computer >>>>>>> system: >>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted >>>>>>> by UK legislation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>>> immediately delete it. ? 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 15:18:01 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 15:18:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <00b301ccfd3d$c6d238c0$5476aa40$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00b301ccfd3d$c6d238c0$5476aa40$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C30D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think all the php stuff is in place for testing. Jonathan is still working on a few templates, I need to drop in all the xerte stuff, but the main web application can be tested now. The community site will become the main home for the Xerte Project, I'm really looking forward to seeing that develop, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 March 2012 15:12 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge sorry busy with other things over the last day or so but would add the following... 1. Personally I don't think it's worth hiding stuff when demo.php is used - people familiar enough to look at the sharing and peer review etc will know or at least discover that those features won't work via a local install using demo.php. Also the relative position of tabs and links maintains consistency and for instance some people use a localhost install using demo.php to take screenshots for training material etc. Also after all this time why change it now. However what I do think is worth doing is including a visual message in demo.php which displays to anyone browsing to it that demo.php or whatever it might be renamed to should not be used in a public facing production environment apart from perhaps testing. There are public facing installs out there with demo.php accessible! 2. I can test the latest version including the feedback page mail processing - but is everything in place now or are there pages still to be committed? 3. Happy to contribute to the community site too. 4. Jonathan - where are you add with merging my new hotspot page with yours? We have different perspectives on this but I want to ensure that this is part of the new release. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 08 March 2012 14:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge it's not just standalone for example. Peer review / feedback won't work if there is no email - this is on full installs as well. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > There is now: you can add you own issue templates. Add any others that are useful. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:18 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > I added it as an issue, labelled 'feature request'. Not sure if google code has any direct support for feature requests. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:14 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, > depends on the functionality. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Is it just a case of remove the includes? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs >> as certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley >> wrote: >>> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we >>> enable pages that won't work. >>> >>> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> I'll test it (not today though) >>>> >>>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> >>>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I >>>>> can't test it either. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>> Lockley >>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>> >>>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't >>>>> use mail >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>> >>>>>> The trunk >>>>>> >>>>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge >>>>>>> appears to have killed all the page logic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New code >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>>>> ."

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

Thank you for your >>>>>>> feedback

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>>>> "

>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION >>>>>>> ."
>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "
>>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /** >>>>>>> * Else display the page >>>>>>> */ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line >>>>>>> Toolkits Feedback page

>>>>>> float:left; position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave >>>>>>> your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would >>>>>>> like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite >>>>>>> and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS >>>>>>> Learning Team.
>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> * If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>>>> */ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

Thank you for your >>>>>>> feedback

"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online >>>>>>> Feedback", "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>> >>>>>>> }else{ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /** >>>>>>> * Else display the page >>>>>>> */ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line >>>>>>> Toolkits Feedback page

>>>>>> float:left; position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave >>>>>>> your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would >>>>>>> like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite >>>>>>> and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS >>>>>>> Learning Team.
>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> echo "
"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 15:20:01 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 15:20:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3074@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C30DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > Take within Xerte, if the proxy + ports aren't set, then Wikipedia and rss pages shouldn't be there as they won't work. Hmm. But if that project is then round-tripped into a server-based install they will, so the scenario of working at desk, export, work on train, import when you get where you're going breaks maybe? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 08 March 2012 14:29 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge but it isn't per say just an issue - it's a developer question - should we disable functionality if it won't work. So on index.php - i should probably disable the entire feedback pod because feedback won't work. Now I might have seen an install where feedback works, and it won't be there in my install Take within Xerte, if the proxy + ports aren't set, then wikipedia and rss pages shouldn't be there as they won't work. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Update the issue! > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:26 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > it's not just standalone for example. > > Peer review / feedback won't work if there is no email - this is on > full installs as well. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> There is now: you can add you own issue templates. Add any others that are useful. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 08 March 2012 14:18 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> I added it as an issue, labelled 'feature request'. Not sure if google code has any direct support for feature requests. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 08 March 2012 14:14 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, >> depends on the functionality. >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> Is it just a case of remove the includes? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>> >>> Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs as >>> certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley >>> wrote: >>>> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we enable >>>> pages that won't work. >>>> >>>> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> I'll test it (not today though) >>>>> >>>>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> >>>>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test >>>>>> it either. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>> >>>>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use >>>>>> mail >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The trunk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>>>>>>> to have killed all the page logic? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> New code >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>>>>> ."

"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> echo "

" . >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>>>>> "

>>>>>>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> echo "
>>>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /** >>>>>>>> * Else display the page >>>>>>>> */ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> echo "
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> * If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>>>>> */ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>>>>>>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> }else{ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /** >>>>>>>> * Else display the page >>>>>>>> */ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> echo "
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>>>>>>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>>>> any attachment. 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Email communications with the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 15:37:05 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 15:37:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C30DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3074@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C30DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: yep, but also for example - if you export a jmol viewer or a mapstraction thingie - does that come with you? I'm happy to say "bad luck if it doesn't work", but then the manual might need to say "if this page doesn't work then...." Could see a case for a management page called "Currently broke" which lists which things won't work, and people can add contingencies to it On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> Take within Xerte, if the proxy + ports aren't set, then Wikipedia and rss pages shouldn't be there as they won't work. > > Hmm. But if that project is then round-tripped into a server-based install they will, so the scenario of working at desk, export, work on train, import when you get where you're going breaks maybe? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:29 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > but it isn't per say just an issue - it's a developer question - > should we disable functionality if it won't work. > > So on index.php - i should probably disable the entire feedback pod > because feedback won't work. > > Now I might have seen an install where feedback works, and it won't be > there in my install > > Take within Xerte, if the proxy + ports aren't set, then wikipedia and > rss pages shouldn't be there as they won't work. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Update the issue! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 08 March 2012 14:26 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> it's not just standalone for example. >> >> Peer review / feedback won't work if there is no email - this is on >> full installs as well. >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> There is now: you can add you own issue templates. Add any others that are useful. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>> Sent: 08 March 2012 14:18 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>> >>> I added it as an issue, labelled 'feature request'. Not sure if google code has any direct support for feature requests. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 08 March 2012 14:14 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>> >>> It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, >>> depends on the functionality. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>> Is it just a case of remove the includes? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>> >>>> Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs as >>>> certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley >>>> wrote: >>>>> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we enable >>>>> pages that won't work. >>>>> >>>>> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>> I'll test it (not today though) >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I can't test >>>>>>> it either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't use >>>>>>> mail >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The trunk >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge appears >>>>>>>>> to have killed all the page logic? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> New code >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>>>>>> ."

"; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . >>>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>>>>>> "

>>>>>>>> margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION ."
>>>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
>>>>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>>>> ? ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>>>>>> ?*/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your feedback

"; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online Feedback", >>>>>>>>> "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) ."
Message
" >>>>>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> }else{ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line Toolkits >>>>>>>>> Feedback page

>>>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave your feedback >>>>>>>>> here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would like a response, and >>>>>>>>> if you do, please leave your name opposite and some contact details in >>>>>>>>> the box below. Thank you, the IS Learning Team.
>>>>>>>> style=\"width:50%; float:left; position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>>>> ? ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>>>>>>>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>>>>> any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>>>>>> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>>>> system: >>>>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>>> system: >>>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>> system: >>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 16:01:48 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:01:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C30D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00b301ccfd3d$c6d238c0$5476aa40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C30D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: it's not just demo.php peer review won't work on a full install unless the email is set up Why change it now - well we've spent some time trying to make it work on the main list and got nowhere - trying to solve that problem of having functionality which won't function unless it is set up. And the driver is what the development approach is - hide problems so people can't get to them, or let them find them and put more into the documentation. I've no more commits outstanding. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I think all the php stuff is in place for testing. > > Jonathan is still working on a few templates, I need to drop in all the xerte stuff, but the main web application can be tested now. > > The community site will become the main home for the Xerte Project, I'm really looking forward to seeing that develop, > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 March 2012 15:12 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > sorry busy with other things over the last day or so but would add the > following... > > 1. Personally I don't think it's worth hiding stuff when demo.php is used - > people familiar enough to look at the sharing and peer review etc will know > or at least discover that those features won't work via a local install > using demo.php. Also the relative position of tabs and links maintains > consistency and for instance some people use a localhost install using > demo.php to take screenshots for training material etc. Also after all this > time why change it now. However what I do think is worth doing is including > a visual message in demo.php which displays to anyone browsing to it that > demo.php or whatever it might be renamed to should not be used in a public > facing production environment apart from perhaps testing. There are public > facing installs out there with demo.php accessible! > > 2. I can test the latest version including the feedback page mail processing > - but is everything in place now or are there pages still to be committed? > > 3. Happy to contribute to the community site too. > > 4. Jonathan - where are you add with merging my new hotspot page with yours? > We have different perspectives on this but I want to ensure that this is > part of the new release. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:26 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > it's not just standalone for example. > > Peer review / feedback won't work if there is no email - this is on full > installs as well. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> There is now: you can add you own issue templates. Add any others that are > useful. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 08 March 2012 14:18 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> I added it as an issue, labelled 'feature request'. Not sure if google > code has any direct support for feature requests. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 08 March 2012 14:14 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >> >> It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, >> depends on the functionality. >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> Is it just a case of remove the includes? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>> >>> Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs >>> as certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley >>> wrote: >>>> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we >>>> enable pages that won't work. >>>> >>>> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> I'll test it (not today though) >>>>> >>>>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> >>>>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I >>>>>> can't test it either. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>>> Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>> >>>>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't >>>>>> use mail >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The trunk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've not made a commit for this page >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge >>>>>>>> appears to have killed all the page logic? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> New code >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE >>>>>>>> ."

"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" . >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . >>>>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your >>>>>>>> feedback

"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "

" . >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . >>>>>>>> "

>>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION >>>>>>>> ."
>>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?echo "
>>>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . >>>>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . ">>>>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line >>>>>>>> Toolkits Feedback page

>>>>>>> float:left; position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave >>>>>>>> your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would >>>>>>>> like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite >>>>>>>> and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS >>>>>>>> Learning Team.
>>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>>> ? ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> old code (from the zip) >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> * ? ? ? If something is posted, send this feedback >>>>>>>> ?*/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Thank you for your >>>>>>>> feedback

"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online >>>>>>>> Feedback", "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) > ."
Message
" >>>>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), >>>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> }else{ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?/** >>>>>>>> ? ? * ?Else display the page >>>>>>>> ? ? */ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line >>>>>>>> Toolkits Feedback page

>>>>>>> float:left; position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave >>>>>>>> your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would >>>>>>>> like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite >>>>>>>> and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS >>>>>>>> Learning Team.
>>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
NameFeedback>>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? ?echo "
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Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu Mar 8 16:59:57 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:59:57 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <00b301ccfd3d$c6d238c0$5476aa40$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00b301ccfd3d$c6d238c 0$5476aa40$@co.uk> Message-ID: <92379F87-4391-410D-A157-17F3816C6D7B@palepurple.co.uk> > > demo.php or whatever it might be renamed to should not be used in a public > facing production environment apart from perhaps testing. There are public > facing installs out there with demo.php accessible! > The final page of the installer does now emit a strong warning/message to people telling them to delete : /setup and a few other files. I've also deleted demo.php from svn - so someone would have to rename demo.txt to index.php for it to work. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu Mar 8 17:01:41 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:01:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00b301ccfd3d$c6d238c 0$5476aa40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C30D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > > peer review won't work on a full install unless the email is set up > What setup is required for email? Just an SMTP server to relay through if it's on a Windows server? David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 17:06:14 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:06:14 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C30D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: it relies on the PHP mail function working, what requirements that has I don't know, but on local host I get a sendmail something. I was guessing there is an ini_get you can call to check? On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:01 PM, David Goodwin wrote: >> >> >> peer review won't work on a full install unless the email is set up >> > > > What setup is required for email? Just an SMTP server to relay through if it's on a ?Windows server? > > > David. > > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 17:06:47 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:06:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <92379F87-4391-410D-A157-17F3816C6D7B@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00b301ccfd3d$c6d238c0$5476aa40$@co.uk> <92379F87-4391-410D-A157-17F3816C6D7B@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: i also thought maybe powerlink.php should be a text file as well? On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, David Goodwin wrote: > > >> >> demo.php or whatever it might be renamed to should not be used in a public >> facing production environment apart from perhaps testing. There are public >> facing installs out there with demo.php accessible! >> > > > The final page of the installer does now emit a strong warning/message to people telling them to delete : > > /setup > and a few other files. > > > I've also deleted demo.php from svn - so someone would have to rename demo.txt to index.php for it to work. > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu Mar 8 17:11:17 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:11:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E 59DA31562C3F0BA46C30D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <94028CBA-2238-4189-B0C6-425C18856716@palepurple.co.uk> On 8 Mar 2012, at 17:06, Pat Lockley wrote: > it relies on the PHP mail function working, what requirements that has > I don't know, but on local host I get a sendmail something. Ah. With a Linux box php will always call a local /usr/sbin/sendmail. On Windows you must have an SMTP relay configured. You can set these settings through an ini_set call. I suspect most WAMP installs leave the php.ini values blank. Where things get tricky is if you have a Linux server/vm which needs to relay through somewhere - as the mail() function will not support this - hence it's normally better to use something like Zend_Mail/SwiftMailer/etc. They also handle HTML email, character sets and attachments a lot better. thanks, David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 8 17:26:28 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:26:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <94028CBA-2238-4189-B0C6-425C18856716@palepurple.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <94028CBA-2238-4189-B0C6-425C18856716@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: So would an ini_get find that? Is that all php mail needs? On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:11 PM, David Goodwin wrote: > > On 8 Mar 2012, at 17:06, Pat Lockley wrote: > >> it relies on the PHP mail function working, what requirements that has >> I don't know, but on local host I get a sendmail something. > > Ah. With a Linux box php will always call a local /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > On Windows you must have an SMTP relay configured. You can set these settings through an ini_set call. I suspect most WAMP installs leave the php.ini values blank. > > > Where things get tricky is if you have a Linux server/vm which needs to relay through somewhere - as the mail() function will not support this - hence it's normally better to use something like Zend_Mail/SwiftMailer/etc. They also handle HTML email, character sets and attachments a lot better. > > thanks, > > David. > > > Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu Mar 8 17:36:49 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:36:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <94028CBA-2238-4189-B0C6-425C18856716@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <18AC653C-F748-4E93-9475-E58740CC8947@palepurple.co.uk> On 8 Mar 2012, at 17:26, Pat Lockley wrote: > So would an ini_get find that? Is that all php mail needs? See http://www.php.net/manual/en/mail.configuration.php smtp_port, and SMTP can be changed at run time with an ini_set. The SMTP parameters are only used on Windows though. David. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:11 PM, David Goodwin wrote: >> >> On 8 Mar 2012, at 17:06, Pat Lockley wrote: >> >>> it relies on the PHP mail function working, what requirements that has >>> I don't know, but on local host I get a sendmail something. >> >> Ah. With a Linux box php will always call a local /usr/sbin/sendmail. >> >> On Windows you must have an SMTP relay configured. You can set these settings through an ini_set call. I suspect most WAMP installs leave the php.ini values blank. >> >> >> Where things get tricky is if you have a Linux server/vm which needs to relay through somewhere - as the mail() function will not support this - hence it's normally better to use something like Zend_Mail/SwiftMailer/etc. They also handle HTML email, character sets and attachments a lot better. >> >> thanks, >> >> David. >> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Mar 8 18:54:38 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 18:54:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge In-Reply-To: <00b301ccfd3d$c6d238c0$5476aa40$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2D64@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2E81@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C2EA2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F588C9C.40208@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C3067@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA46C306F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00b301ccfd3d$c6d238c0$5476aa40$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hello Ron, I also want to ensure that all the connector pages are available at the release. At present I have 6 working connector pages, Scenario, Tabbed Navigator, Multiple Choice Question, Plain Text, Hotspot Image and a redirector page. I am in the process of enhancing the Hotspot Image Connector and have added many of the features you requested. I hit a snag late today when I discovered that the hotspots were showing through the movie, depending on the order in which the hotspots were entered, so I am now in the process of reworking that part of the page. Currently I have been able to add sound, relative navigation (first next etc.), opening a new window for accessing other learning objects, web pages etc. and I have also a kind of pop up where clicking on a hotspot results in a panel and scrollable text message appearing with a close button. All the Connector pages include a development mode feature that will send the code for a html page to the clipboard. The page displays a table containing the page No, page name, page ID, page mode (i.e. developer or live) so that will help people when planning and checking over their projects. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 March 2012 15:11, Ron Mitchell wrote: > sorry busy with other things over the last day or so but would add the > following... > > 1. Personally I don't think it's worth hiding stuff when demo.php is used - > people familiar enough to look at the sharing and peer review etc will know > or at least discover that those features won't work via a local install > using demo.php. Also the relative position of tabs and links maintains > consistency and for instance some people use a localhost install using > demo.php to take screenshots for training material etc. Also after all this > time why change it now. However what I do think is worth doing is including > a visual message in demo.php which displays to anyone browsing to it that > demo.php or whatever it might be renamed to should not be used in a public > facing production environment apart from perhaps testing. There are public > facing installs out there with demo.php accessible! > > 2. I can test the latest version including the feedback page mail > processing > - but is everything in place now or are there pages still to be committed? > > 3. Happy to contribute to the community site too. > > 4. Jonathan - where are you add with merging my new hotspot page with > yours? > We have different perspectives on this but I want to ensure that this is > part of the new release. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:26 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > it's not just standalone for example. > > Peer review / feedback won't work if there is no email - this is on full > installs as well. > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > There is now: you can add you own issue templates. Add any others that > are > useful. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > > Tenney > > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:18 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > > > I added it as an issue, labelled 'feature request'. Not sure if google > code has any direct support for feature requests. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > > Lockley > > Sent: 08 March 2012 14:14 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > > > > It'd be an if statement in the php around certain bits of the code, > > depends on the functionality. > > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > >> Is it just a case of remove the includes? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > >> Lockley > >> Sent: 08 March 2012 12:31 > >> To: For Xerte technical developers > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > >> > >> Also - on a localhost demo.php page - no point showing certain tabs > >> as certain tabs are pointless - sharing makes no sense on demo > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Pat Lockley > >> wrote: > >>> This goes back to the question on the other thread - should we > >>> enable pages that won't work. > >>> > >>> This page won't work unless you're PHP has email set up. > >>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > >>>> I'll test it (not today though) > >>>> > >>>> Op 8-3-2012 11:34, Julian Tenney schreef: > >>>> > >>>>> OK, please update and commit the code when you get a minute. I > >>>>> can't test it either. > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > >>>>> Lockley > >>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:27 > >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers > >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > >>>>> > >>>>> I can fix the php, but have no ability to test the page as I can't > >>>>> use mail > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Can you? Or do you want me to? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >>>>>> Pat Lockley > >>>>>> Sent: 08 March 2012 09:43 > >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers > >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: the 1.8 trunk merge > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The trunk > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I've not made a commit for this page > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Julian Tenney > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Is this for the zip, or for the trunk? Did you commit it? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >>>>>>> Pat Lockley > >>>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2012 17:11 > >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers > >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] the 1.8 trunk merge > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Just went to look at the feedback page for Oliver - the merge > >>>>>>> appears to have killed all the page logic? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> New code > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> echo "

" . FEEDBACK_RESPONSE > >>>>>>> ."

"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, > >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_EMAIL_TITLE, > >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_GIVER . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) . "
" > . > >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_MESSAGE_INTRO . "
" . > >>>>>>> mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), > >>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> echo "

Thank you for your > >>>>>>> feedback

"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> echo "

" . > >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_PAGE_TITLE . > >>>>>>> "

>>>>>>> position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">" . FEEDBACK_DESCRIPTION > >>>>>>> ."
>>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> echo "
>>>>>>> method=\"post\">Name" . > >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_TEXTAREA . " >>>>>>> FEEDBACK_BUTTON . "\">
"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /** > >>>>>>> * Else display the page > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line > >>>>>>> Toolkits Feedback page

>>>>>>> float:left; position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave > >>>>>>> your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would > >>>>>>> like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite > >>>>>>> and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS > >>>>>>> Learning Team.
>>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> echo "
NameFeedback >>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> echo "
"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> } > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ?> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> old code (from the zip) > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * If something is posted, send this feedback > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> if(isset($_POST['feedback'])){ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> echo "

Thank you for your > >>>>>>> feedback

"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> mail($xerte_toolkits_site->feedback_list, "Xerte Online > >>>>>>> Feedback", "Name " . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']) > ."
Message
" > >>>>>>> . mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['feedback']), > >>>>>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->headers); > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> }else{ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /** > >>>>>>> * Else display the page > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> echo "

Welcome to Xerte on-line > >>>>>>> Toolkits Feedback page

>>>>>>> float:left; position:relative; margin-right:20px;\">Please leave > >>>>>>> your feedback here. All feedback is anonymous, unless you would > >>>>>>> like a response, and if you do, please leave your name opposite > >>>>>>> and some contact details in the box below. Thank you, the IS > >>>>>>> Learning Team.
>>>>>>> position:relative;\">"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> echo "
NameFeedback >>>>>>> value=\"Send Feedback\">
"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> echo "
"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> } > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ?> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list > >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list > >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > >>>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > >>>>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > >>>>>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > >>>>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Sat Mar 10 06:57:23 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:57:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xot: which version? Message-ID: <496622545-1331362644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1256748140-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Hi guys. I've seen a lot of work last days with XOT and trunk. Next April, I'm going to offer a workshop about XOT integrated with Moodle 1.9 and 2.x. Which version do I have to download? 1.7 from zip file at Nottingham webpage? Trunk version ? 1.8 version? During the workkshop I have to show: 1. How to integrate Moodle and XOT. 2. Create LO from XOT loaded from Moodle, using all kind of activities. Thanks for the advice. Jos?. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sat Mar 10 10:17:09 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:17:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? In-Reply-To: <496622545-1331362644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1256748140-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> References: <496622545-1331362644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1256748140-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <0210118D-DAB7-4ABD-B4F9-219EED0943CA@googlemail.com> 1.8 has been moved into trunk. Trunk is being tested before the next release. The big change with trunk will be support for Languages - see the languages folder. Trunk should become the zip by the end of the month. On 10 Mar 2012, at 06:57, "Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda" wrote: > Hi guys. > > I've seen a lot of work last days with XOT and trunk. > > Next April, I'm going to offer a workshop about XOT integrated with Moodle 1.9 and 2.x. > > Which version do I have to download? > > 1.7 from zip file at Nottingham webpage? > > Trunk version ? > > 1.8 version? > > During the workkshop I have to show: > > 1. How to integrate Moodle and XOT. > > 2. Create LO from XOT loaded from Moodle, using all kind of activities. > > Thanks for the advice. > > Jos?. > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Sat Mar 10 13:43:50 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:43:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? In-Reply-To: <0210118D-DAB7-4ABD-B4F9-219EED0943CA@googlemail.com> References: <496622545-1331362644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1256748140-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> <0210118D-DAB7-4ABD-B4F9-219EED0943CA@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <50685576-1331387031-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1206825748-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Great Pat! So can I help testing XOT from trunk? Moodle patch is working well ? Which is the address to report bugs? Jos?. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Lockley Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:17:09 To: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Xot: which version? 1.8 has been moved into trunk. Trunk is being tested before the next release. The big change with trunk will be support for Languages - see the languages folder. Trunk should become the zip by the end of the month. On 10 Mar 2012, at 06:57, "Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda" wrote: > Hi guys. > > I've seen a lot of work last days with XOT and trunk. > > Next April, I'm going to offer a workshop about XOT integrated with Moodle 1.9 and 2.x. > > Which version do I have to download? > > 1.7 from zip file at Nottingham webpage? > > Trunk version ? > > 1.8 version? > > During the workkshop I have to show: > > 1. How to integrate Moodle and XOT. > > 2. Create LO from XOT loaded from Moodle, using all kind of activities. > > Thanks for the advice. > > Jos?. > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sat Mar 10 14:19:52 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:19:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? In-Reply-To: <50685576-1331387031-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1206825748-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> References: <496622545-1331362644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1256748140-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> <0210118D-DAB7-4ABD-B4F9-219EED0943CA@googlemail.com> <50685576-1331387031-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1206825748-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Hi Jos?, Yep, test trunk and / or if you look in the language folder you could start a Spanish / castille translation. Bugs to the google code issue page. Thanks Pat On 10 Mar 2012, at 13:43, "Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda" wrote: > Great Pat! > > So can I help testing XOT from trunk? > > Moodle patch is working well ? > > Which is the address to report bugs? > > Jos?. > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:17:09 > To: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Xot: which version? > > 1.8 has been moved into trunk. > > Trunk is being tested before the next release. The big change with trunk will be support for Languages - see the languages folder. > > Trunk should become the zip by the end of the month. > > On 10 Mar 2012, at 06:57, "Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda" wrote: > >> Hi guys. >> >> I've seen a lot of work last days with XOT and trunk. >> >> Next April, I'm going to offer a workshop about XOT integrated with Moodle 1.9 and 2.x. >> >> Which version do I have to download? >> >> 1.7 from zip file at Nottingham webpage? >> >> Trunk version ? >> >> 1.8 version? >> >> During the workkshop I have to show: >> >> 1. How to integrate Moodle and XOT. >> >> 2. Create LO from XOT loaded from Moodle, using all kind of activities. >> >> Thanks for the advice. >> >> Jos?. >> >> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 04:31:53 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 04:31:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Translating from trunk Message-ID: <290413206-1331440311-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-408466133-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Hi guys. I noticed the language folder in Xot from trunk. To start/continue the translation to spanish: what files do I have to touch? How I enable the new language? I tested changing "en-gb" and changes are shown in a fresh install. Thanks! Jos?. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sun Mar 11 08:45:38 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:45:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Translating from trunk In-Reply-To: <290413206-1331440311-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-408466133-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> References: <290413206-1331440311-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-408466133-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <03ADA57E-6172-45CE-AC73-53CBFAE4CD07@googlemail.com> Copy the en-gb folder and all contents to say es-vz Then in config.php set the language property to es-vz Each .Inc file in the languages folder corresponds to a php file in the main site. So index.Inc is index.php and so on Pat On 11 Mar 2012, at 04:31, "Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda" wrote: > Hi guys. > > I noticed the language folder in Xot from trunk. > > To start/continue the translation to spanish: > > what files do I have to touch? > > How I enable the new language? > > I tested changing "en-gb" and changes are shown in a fresh install. > > Thanks! > > Jos?. > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sun Mar 11 10:43:38 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:43:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? In-Reply-To: References: <496622545-1331362644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1256748140-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> <0210118D-DAB7-4ABD-B4F9-219EED0943CA@googlemail.com> <50685576-1331387031-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1206825748-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: At present testing of XOT will exclude the new model files and a new template.xwd file. Initial work on the model and xwd files for the individual page templates will be completed by next weekend and these files will provide the new model .rlm files and the new template.xwd file which will be used in XOT and pageTemplates project template based projects. This should have no impact on testing of the XOT interface, but will affect the pages that make up a project. That is to say there will be some new pages and some enhancements to existing pages. Every effort has been made to ensure that existing project data will work with the new files but this will need to be tested. Translation of the XOT files will result in a translated XOT user interface. In order to achieve a complete Spanish / Castille translation it will also be necessary to translate the individual xwd files that define the forms for each page. Once the new individual xwd files are made available they can then be translated into other languages than english to complete the conversion of XOT into other languages. Kind regards Johnathan On 10 March 2012 14:19, Pat Lockley wrote: > Hi Jos?, > > Yep, test trunk and / or if you look in the language folder you could > start a Spanish / castille translation. > > Bugs to the google code issue page. > > Thanks > > Pat > > On 10 Mar 2012, at 13:43, "Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda" > wrote: > > > Great Pat! > > > > So can I help testing XOT from trunk? > > > > Moodle patch is working well ? > > > > Which is the address to report bugs? > > > > Jos?. > > > > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pat Lockley > > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:17:09 > > To: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers< > xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Xot: which version? > > > > 1.8 has been moved into trunk. > > > > Trunk is being tested before the next release. The big change with trunk > will be support for Languages - see the languages folder. > > > > Trunk should become the zip by the end of the month. > > > > On 10 Mar 2012, at 06:57, "Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda" > wrote: > > > >> Hi guys. > >> > >> I've seen a lot of work last days with XOT and trunk. > >> > >> Next April, I'm going to offer a workshop about XOT integrated with > Moodle 1.9 and 2.x. > >> > >> Which version do I have to download? > >> > >> 1.7 from zip file at Nottingham webpage? > >> > >> Trunk version ? > >> > >> 1.8 version? > >> > >> During the workkshop I have to show: > >> > >> 1. How to integrate Moodle and XOT. > >> > >> 2. Create LO from XOT loaded from Moodle, using all kind of activities. > >> > >> Thanks for the advice. > >> > >> Jos?. > >> > >> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Xerte-dev mailing list > >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message > in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > >> > >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the > >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 15:16:12 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:16:12 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? In-Reply-To: References: <496622545-1331362644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1256748140-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> <0210118D-DAB7-4ABD-B4F9-219EED0943CA@googlemail.com> <50685576-1331387031-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1206825748-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <303600718-1331478973-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2084361261-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Hey Johnathan. Is it possible to "handle" the translation of xwd files from "language" folder through xml files ? I'm asking from my ignorance. Thanks! Jos?. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. -----Original Message----- From: Kemp Johnathan Sender: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:43:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Reply-To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Mar 12 10:42:03 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:42:03 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? In-Reply-To: <303600718-1331478973-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2084361261-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> References: <496622545-1331362644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1256748140-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> <0210118D-DAB7-4ABD-B4F9-219EED0943CA@googlemail.com> <50685576-1331387031-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1206825748-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> <303600718-1331478973-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2084361261-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: The xwd files are xml files. xwd is a Xerte extension that identifies the file as a definition for a form. When the new set of xwd files are released I will also provide a document to give some guidance on how to translate them. I edit my xwd files using a free program called FlashDevelop as its what I use alongside Xerte when I am creating new page types. However whilst you could also use a program like XML Marker to edit the xwd files, I have run a quick test. XML Marker removed all the line end characters from the file so that when I re-opened the file in FlashDevelop it had lost its visual layout as the whole file displayed on one line. This may make it harder for you in the future to maintain your translated set of xwd files. The new version of Xerte constructs a template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd files. During the build process a sequence of error checking takes place so there is some support for detecting any errors that might creep in during the translation process. So my personal recommendation would be to use a conventional editor such as Flash Develop, unless you have an xml editor that can be configured to leave the line end characters in place. Kind regards Johnathan 2012/3/11 Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda > Hey Johnathan. > > Is it possible to "handle" the translation of xwd files from "language" > folder through xml files ? > > I'm asking from my ignorance. > > Thanks! > > Jos?. > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kemp Johnathan > Sender: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:43:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Reply-To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Regards, Tom Op 12-3-2012 11:48, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > I guess this is a question for Tom, unless anyone else has taken over > the work on this. > > When I last tested the php file that builds the template.xwd file it > generated an output report based on all the xwd files in the folder it > was processing. This report was output into a non-scrollable window > and the text output exceeded the display space available. As a result > any details of errors that took place once the text had gone beyond > the display area of the window was unavailable. > > I will have a new set of xwds ready by the end of this week. Is there > any possibility of the php file being modified so that I can process > all of the files in one batch to verify that they will generate a > valid template.xwd file? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Mar 12 19:57:49 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:57:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Language fall back Message-ID: issue In the future some one may wish to develop some new functionality in XOT This may be written in Dutch or Spanish It may be plausible to have a site supporting multiple languages The translation for Dutch may be there for Spanish, but might not be there for English. How do we support a "fallback language"? From david at palepurple.co.uk Mon Mar 12 22:13:06 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:13:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95961596-ED8D-4646-928C-988B302DA8E4@palepurple.co.uk> The standard approach is : 1. Check for existence of $_COOKIE value e.g. for 'lang', if present, use that. 2. Check to see what languages the browser requests (see e.g. Zend_Locale (I think)) and if we have a matching one use that. 3. Allow the user to choose via some sort of drop down. I was planning on implementing 1 and 2 sometime soon. David. On 12 Mar 2012, at 19:57, Pat Lockley wrote: > issue > > In the future some one may wish to develop some new functionality in XOT > > This may be written in Dutch or Spanish > > It may be plausible to have a site supporting multiple languages > > The translation for Dutch may be there for Spanish, but might not be > there for English. > > How do we support a "fallback language"? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Mar 12 22:32:53 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:32:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back In-Reply-To: <95961596-ED8D-4646-928C-988B302DA8E4@palepurple.co.uk> References: <95961596-ED8D-4646-928C-988B302DA8E4@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <4BEA8C25-37BA-4CFC-A070-A37EBA29137A@googlemail.com> I would shy away from 2 It leaves open what to do If a php file exists but a Inc file doesn't for this language but does for another language. Fail? Load? On 12 Mar 2012, at 22:13, David Goodwin wrote: > The standard approach is : > > 1. Check for existence of $_COOKIE value e.g. for 'lang', if present, use that. > 2. Check to see what languages the browser requests (see e.g. Zend_Locale (I think)) and if we have a matching one use that. > 3. Allow the user to choose via some sort of drop down. > > > I was planning on implementing 1 and 2 sometime soon. > > David. > > On 12 Mar 2012, at 19:57, Pat Lockley wrote: > >> issue >> >> In the future some one may wish to develop some new functionality in XOT >> >> This may be written in Dutch or Spanish >> >> It may be plausible to have a site supporting multiple languages >> >> The translation for Dutch may be there for Spanish, but might not be >> there for English. >> >> How do we support a "fallback language"? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 10:25:27 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:25:27 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back In-Reply-To: <4BEA8C25-37BA-4CFC-A070-A37EBA29137A@googlemail.com> References: <95961596-ED8D-4646-928C-988B302DA8E4@palepurple.co.uk> <4BEA8C25-37BA-4CFC-A070-A37EBA29137A@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4848607@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Wouldn't this only happen if the distributed build had the missing bits in? If people add half language support to their own installations, that's up to them, n'est pas? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 12 March 2012 22:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back I would shy away from 2 It leaves open what to do If a php file exists but a Inc file doesn't for this language but does for another language. Fail? Load? On 12 Mar 2012, at 22:13, David Goodwin wrote: > The standard approach is : > > 1. Check for existence of $_COOKIE value e.g. for 'lang', if present, use that. > 2. Check to see what languages the browser requests (see e.g. Zend_Locale (I think)) and if we have a matching one use that. > 3. Allow the user to choose via some sort of drop down. > > > I was planning on implementing 1 and 2 sometime soon. > > David. > > On 12 Mar 2012, at 19:57, Pat Lockley wrote: > >> issue >> >> In the future some one may wish to develop some new functionality in XOT >> >> This may be written in Dutch or Spanish >> >> It may be plausible to have a site supporting multiple languages >> >> The translation for Dutch may be there for Spanish, but might not be >> there for English. >> >> How do we support a "fallback language"? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Mar 13 11:18:15 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:18:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Process of building the template.xwd file from the individual page xwd files. In-Reply-To: <4F5E5405.8030902@tor.nl> References: <4F5E5405.8030902@tor.nl> Message-ID: Thanks Tom, I have got that working. Kind regards Johnathan On 12 March 2012 19:52, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Jonathan, > > I'll have a look at the non-scrolling window. > > In the meantime: > > 1. Depending on your OS, start a cmd as administrator (Vista +) or a > normal cmd > 2. go to the Xerte folder > 3. You can use the following command (this is what xerte calls): > php\php.exe scripts\rebuildtemplate.php "path to xwd folder" > > convert.log > > Replace "path to xwd folder"with the folder name where your xwds reside. > > The convert.log file will contain the feedback, and you can check that > file with a text editor. > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 12-3-2012 11:48, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I guess this is a question for Tom, unless anyone else has taken over the > work on this. > > When I last tested the php file that builds the template.xwd file it > generated an output report based on all the xwd files in the folder it was > processing. This report was output into a non-scrollable window and the > text output exceeded the display space available. As a result any details > of errors that took place once the text had gone beyond the display area of > the window was unavailable. > > I will have a new set of xwds ready by the end of this week. Is there > any possibility of the php file being modified so that I can process all of > the files in one batch to verify that they will generate a valid > template.xwd file? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 11:47:58 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:47:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? In-Reply-To: References: <496622545-1331362644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1256748140-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> <0210118D-DAB7-4ABD-B4F9-219EED0943CA@googlemail.com> <50685576-1331387031-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1206825748-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> <303600718-1331478973-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2084361261-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <1577607864-1331639280-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-693682102-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Hi Johnathan. Is it possible to "include" info from language folder into xwd files ? I like the idea to keep centralized all languages texts in one place. Jos?. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. -----Original Message----- From: Kemp Johnathan Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:42:03 To: ; For Xerte technical developers Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? The xwd files are xml files. xwd is a Xerte extension that identifies the file as a definition for a form. When the new set of xwd files are released I will also provide a document to give some guidance on how to translate them. I edit my xwd files using a free program called FlashDevelop as its what I use alongside Xerte when I am creating new page types. However whilst you could also use a program like XML Marker to edit the xwd files, I have run a quick test. XML Marker removed all the line end characters from the file so that when I re-opened the file in FlashDevelop it had lost its visual layout as the whole file displayed on one line. This may make it harder for you in the future to maintain your translated set of xwd files. The new version of Xerte constructs a template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd files. During the build process a sequence of error checking takes place so there is some support for detecting any errors that might creep in during the translation process. So my personal recommendation would be to use a conventional editor such as Flash Develop, unless you have an xml editor that can be configured to leave the line end characters in place. Kind regards Johnathan 2012/3/11 Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda > Hey Johnathan. > > Is it possible to "handle" the translation of xwd files from "language" > folder through xml files ? > > I'm asking from my ignorance. > > Thanks! > > Jos?. > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kemp Johnathan > Sender: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:43:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Reply-To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Mar 13 12:01:01 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:01:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4848607@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <95961596-ED8D-4646-928C-988B302DA8E4@palepurple.co.uk> <4BEA8C25-37BA-4CFC-A070-A37EBA29137A@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4848607@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: You might be developing new functionality. You write it in Spanish. The default build is in English. Do we not include the Spanish functions? On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Wouldn't this only happen if the distributed build had the missing bits in? > > If people add half language support to their own installations, that's up to them, n'est pas? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 12 March 2012 22:33 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back > > I would shy away from 2 > > It leaves open what to do If a php file exists but a Inc file doesn't for this language but does for another language. Fail? Load? > > On 12 Mar 2012, at 22:13, David Goodwin wrote: > >> The standard approach is : >> >> 1. Check for existence of $_COOKIE value e.g. for 'lang', if present, use that. >> 2. Check to see what languages the browser requests (see e.g. Zend_Locale (I think)) and if we have a matching one use that. >> 3. Allow the user to choose via some sort of drop down. >> >> >> I was planning on implementing 1 and 2 sometime soon. >> >> David. >> >> On 12 Mar 2012, at 19:57, Pat Lockley wrote: >> >>> issue >>> >>> In the future some one may wish to develop some new functionality in XOT >>> >>> This may be written in Dutch or Spanish >>> >>> It may be plausible to have a site supporting multiple languages >>> >>> The translation for Dutch may be there for Spanish, but might not be >>> there for English. >>> >>> How do we support a "fallback language"? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >> >> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? Mobile: 07792380669 >> >> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Mar 13 13:01:06 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:01:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back In-Reply-To: References: <95961596-ED8D-4646-928C-988B302DA8E4@palepurple.co.uk> <4BEA8C25-37BA-4CFC-A070-A37EBA29137A@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4848607@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20120313140106.862892chcu73sh76@server.tor.nl> My suggestion would be: NO If the functionality is developed in Spanish and English is also supplied (but no other languages): YES (because other languages will fallback to English.) Citeren Pat Lockley : > You might be developing new functionality. > You write it in Spanish. > The default build is in English. > Do we not include the Spanish functions? > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Wouldn't this only happen if the distributed build had the missing bits in? >> >> If people add half language support to their own installations, >> that's up to them, n'est pas? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 12 March 2012 22:33 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back >> >> I would shy away from 2 >> >> It leaves open what to do If a php file exists but a Inc file >> doesn't for this language but does for another language. Fail? Load? >> >> On 12 Mar 2012, at 22:13, David Goodwin wrote: >> >>> The standard approach is : >>> >>> 1. Check for existence of $_COOKIE value e.g. for 'lang', if >>> present, use that. >>> 2. Check to see what languages the browser requests (see e.g. >>> Zend_Locale (I think)) and if we have a matching one use that. >>> 3. Allow the user to choose via some sort of drop down. >>> >>> >>> I was planning on implementing 1 and 2 sometime soon. >>> >>> David. >>> >>> On 12 Mar 2012, at 19:57, Pat Lockley wrote: >>> >>>> issue >>>> >>>> In the future some one may wish to develop some new functionality in XOT >>>> >>>> This may be written in Dutch or Spanish >>>> >>>> It may be plausible to have a site supporting multiple languages >>>> >>>> The translation for Dutch may be there for Spanish, but might not be >>>> there for English. >>>> >>>> How do we support a "fallback language"? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>> immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any >>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>>> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your >>>> computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>> >>> Pale Purple Ltd. ?(Company No: 5580814) >>> 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' >>> >>> http://www.palepurple.co.uk >>> Office: 0845 0046746 ? ? 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From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Mar 13 13:55:53 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:55:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Getting the page name and title to work in Xerte individual page templates Message-ID: At present in the desktop xerte with individual page templates, Xerte gets the page title for display in the TOC and top left corner of the screen from the "title" property of the page icon and not from the "name" field of the xml data. Attempts to pass this data over at runtime have so far failed, resulting in incorrect page titles displayed and unidentified being displayed in the toc. Would it be possible to modify the code that handles the xwd files so that it wrote to the page icon's "title" property, the data for the xwd "name" field on closure of the xwd form. If that was possible it would solve all the runtime problems as the title property value would match the xwd data name value. If the "name" property of the page icon was also set to data for the xwd's "name" field then this would also help the developer as the project tree would also reflect the page name from the xwd data. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Mar 13 14:12:01 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:12:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back In-Reply-To: <20120313140106.862892chcu73sh76@server.tor.nl> References: <95961596-ED8D-4646-928C-988B302DA8E4@palepurple.co.uk> <4BEA8C25-37BA-4CFC-A070-A37EBA29137A@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4848607@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <20120313140106.862892chcu73sh76@server.tor.nl> Message-ID: So then we need some approval process / alert process on new functionality. I think setting "fallback language" as english is fair enough. Where do we tell the swfs what language to use? On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > My suggestion would be: NO > If the functionality is developed in Spanish and English is also supplied > (but no other languages): YES (because other languages will fallback to > English.) > > > > Citeren Pat Lockley : > > >> You might be developing new functionality. >> You write it in Spanish. >> The default build is in English. >> Do we not include the Spanish functions? >> >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> >>> Wouldn't this only happen if the distributed build had the missing bits >>> in? >>> >>> If people add half language support to their own installations, that's up >>> to them, n'est pas? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 12 March 2012 22:33 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back >>> >>> I would shy away from 2 >>> >>> It leaves open what to do If a php file exists but a Inc file doesn't for >>> this language but does for another language. Fail? Load? >>> >>> On 12 Mar 2012, at 22:13, David Goodwin wrote: >>> >>>> The standard approach is : >>>> >>>> 1. Check for existence of $_COOKIE value e.g. for 'lang', if present, >>>> use that. >>>> 2. Check to see what languages the browser requests (see e.g. >>>> Zend_Locale (I think)) and if we have a matching one use that. >>>> 3. Allow the user to choose via some sort of drop down. >>>> >>>> >>>> I was planning on implementing 1 and 2 sometime soon. >>>> >>>> David. >>>> >>>> On 12 Mar 2012, at 19:57, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>> >>>>> issue >>>>> >>>>> In the future some one may wish to develop some new functionality in >>>>> XOT >>>>> >>>>> This may be written in Dutch or Spanish >>>>> >>>>> It may be plausible to have a site supporting multiple languages >>>>> >>>>> The translation for Dutch may be there for Spanish, but might not be >>>>> there for English. >>>>> >>>>> How do we support a "fallback language"? >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>> and may contain confidential information. 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Mobile: 07792380669 >>>> >>>> Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 14:21:22 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:21:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back In-Reply-To: References: <95961596-ED8D-4646-928C-988B302DA8E4@palepurple.co.uk> <4BEA8C25-37BA-4CFC-A070-A37EBA29137A@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4848607@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <20120313140106.862892chcu73sh76@server.tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4848828@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> In the language-config xml file. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 13 March 2012 14:12 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back So then we need some approval process / alert process on new functionality. I think setting "fallback language" as english is fair enough. Where do we tell the swfs what language to use? On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > My suggestion would be: NO > If the functionality is developed in Spanish and English is also supplied > (but no other languages): YES (because other languages will fallback to > English.) > > > > Citeren Pat Lockley : > > >> You might be developing new functionality. >> You write it in Spanish. >> The default build is in English. >> Do we not include the Spanish functions? >> >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> >>> Wouldn't this only happen if the distributed build had the missing bits >>> in? >>> >>> If people add half language support to their own installations, that's up >>> to them, n'est pas? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 12 March 2012 22:33 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Language fall back >>> >>> I would shy away from 2 >>> >>> It leaves open what to do If a php file exists but a Inc file doesn't for >>> this language but does for another language. Fail? Load? >>> >>> On 12 Mar 2012, at 22:13, David Goodwin wrote: >>> >>>> The standard approach is : >>>> >>>> 1. Check for existence of $_COOKIE value e.g. for 'lang', if present, >>>> use that. >>>> 2. Check to see what languages the browser requests (see e.g. >>>> Zend_Locale (I think)) and if we have a matching one use that. >>>> 3. Allow the user to choose via some sort of drop down. >>>> >>>> >>>> I was planning on implementing 1 and 2 sometime soon. >>>> >>>> David. >>>> >>>> On 12 Mar 2012, at 19:57, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>> >>>>> issue >>>>> >>>>> In the future some one may wish to develop some new functionality in >>>>> XOT >>>>> >>>>> This may be written in Dutch or Spanish >>>>> >>>>> It may be plausible to have a site supporting multiple languages >>>>> >>>>> The translation for Dutch may be there for Spanish, but might not be >>>>> there for English. >>>>> >>>>> How do we support a "fallback language"? >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>> and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 14:24:00 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:24:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Getting the page name and title to work in Xerte individual page templates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA484882D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'm struggling for time to be honest, things here are pretty mental. BY all mean have a look in the source code: you'll need the mdm.forms.callfunction to call one function in a form from another form, there are examples in there, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 13 March 2012 13:56 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Getting the page name and title to work in Xerte individual page templates At present in the desktop xerte with individual page templates, Xerte gets the page title for display in the TOC and top left corner of the screen from the "title" property of the page icon and not from the "name" field of the xml data. Attempts to pass this data over at runtime have so far failed, resulting in incorrect page titles displayed and unidentified being displayed in the toc. Would it be possible to modify the code that handles the xwd files so that it wrote to the page icon's "title" property, the data for the xwd "name" field on closure of the xwd form. If that was possible it would solve all the runtime problems as the title property value would match the xwd data name value. If the "name" property of the page icon was also set to data for the xwd's "name" field then this would also help the developer as the project tree would also reflect the page name from the xwd data. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I hope things ease off for you in the near future. Kind regards Johnathan On 13 March 2012 14:24, Julian Tenney wrote: > I?m struggling for time to be honest, things here are pretty mental. BY > all mean have a look in the source code: you?ll need the > mdm.forms.callfunction to call one function in a form from another form, > there are examples in there, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 13 March 2012 13:56 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Getting the page name and title to work in Xerte > individual page templates > > > > At present in the desktop xerte with individual page templates, Xerte gets > the page title for display in the TOC and top left corner of the screen > from the "title" property of the page icon and not from the "name" field of > the xml data. > > > > Attempts to pass this data over at runtime have so far failed, resulting > in incorrect page titles displayed and unidentified being displayed in the > toc. > > > > Would it be possible to modify the code that handles the xwd files so that > it wrote to the page icon's "title" property, the data for the xwd "name" > field on closure of the xwd form. If that was possible it would solve all > the runtime problems as the title property value would match the xwd data > name value. If the "name" property of the page icon was also set to data > for the xwd's "name" field then this would also help the developer as the > project tree would also reflect the page name from the xwd data. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Mar 14 09:51:56 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:51:56 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Getting the page name and title to work in Xerte individual page templates In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA484882D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4848B31@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Not the if (someCondition = true) banana skin? That still gets me from time to time... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 14 March 2012 09:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Getting the page name and title to work in Xerte individual page templates Sorry I did not get a chance to reply yesterday, I was too busy banging my head against the wall over some page templates that refused to work in XOT. The answer turned out to be a simple and obvious one, but it cost a lot of time before it became obvious what the problem was. I don't know my way around the source code so this will have to wait for now. However it this approach is possible it has the advantage of being able to be introduced retrospectively after the launch of the individual page templates. I hope things ease off for you in the near future. Kind regards Johnathan On 13 March 2012 14:24, Julian Tenney > wrote: I'm struggling for time to be honest, things here are pretty mental. BY all mean have a look in the source code: you'll need the mdm.forms.callfunction to call one function in a form from another form, there are examples in there, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 13 March 2012 13:56 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Getting the page name and title to work in Xerte individual page templates At present in the desktop xerte with individual page templates, Xerte gets the page title for display in the TOC and top left corner of the screen from the "title" property of the page icon and not from the "name" field of the xml data. Attempts to pass this data over at runtime have so far failed, resulting in incorrect page titles displayed and unidentified being displayed in the toc. Would it be possible to modify the code that handles the xwd files so that it wrote to the page icon's "title" property, the data for the xwd "name" field on closure of the xwd form. If that was possible it would solve all the runtime problems as the title property value would match the xwd data name value. If the "name" property of the page icon was also set to data for the xwd's "name" field then this would also help the developer as the project tree would also reflect the page name from the xwd data. Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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There is one possible issue that I found that the error trapping did not detect, and it caused me a lot of frustration and lost time, followed by a brief period of pain when I kicked myself once I had discovered the cause of the problem :-) I built the template.xwd file and then tested my new connector pages in XOT. All seven pages worked in Xerte, but now four of the pages failed to display anything other than the page title in XOT. I took the files back to a pageTemplates project and the same four failed to display there as well. They would not even output debug messages. The cause of the problem? In Xerte the link between the xwd file and the rlm file is made based on the file name, the link between the data created by the xwd form and the page model loaded by the rlm file is made by the node name in the xml data. So in Xerte the following will work connectorMenu.xwd with a node cMenu connectorMenu.rlm referencing pageIcon.templateData.cMenu[0] however this will fail in pageTemplates and XOT as all the xwd files are gathered together in one template.xwd file, so the link to the relevant model file is made with the node name. The entry in template.xwd for the connectorMenu uses cMenu as the node name so XOT goes looking for cMenu.rlm and since it does not exist the page fails to work. This may be obvious to someone used to the XOT way of doing things, but it is far less obvious if you develop in Xerte. For anyone making the mistake I made it can be difficult to identify the problem. So if there is any possibility of building a check for this into your checking routines it might be worth doing. Kind regards Johnathan On 13 March 2012 11:18, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > Thanks Tom, > > I have got that working. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 12 March 2012 19:52, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> Jonathan, >> >> I'll have a look at the non-scrolling window. >> >> In the meantime: >> >> 1. Depending on your OS, start a cmd as administrator (Vista +) or a >> normal cmd >> 2. go to the Xerte folder >> 3. You can use the following command (this is what xerte calls): >> php\php.exe scripts\rebuildtemplate.php "path to xwd folder" > >> convert.log >> >> Replace "path to xwd folder"with the folder name where your xwds reside. >> >> The convert.log file will contain the feedback, and you can check that >> file with a text editor. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom >> >> Op 12-3-2012 11:48, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> I guess this is a question for Tom, unless anyone else has taken over the >> work on this. >> >> When I last tested the php file that builds the template.xwd file it >> generated an output report based on all the xwd files in the folder it was >> processing. This report was output into a non-scrollable window and the >> text output exceeded the display space available. As a result any details >> of errors that took place once the text had gone beyond the display area of >> the window was unavailable. >> >> I will have a new set of xwds ready by the end of this week. Is there >> any possibility of the php file being modified so that I can process all of >> the files in one batch to verify that they will generate a valid >> template.xwd file? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Mar 14 10:05:52 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:05:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Getting the page name and title to work in Xerte individual page templates In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4848B31@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA484882D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4848B31@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Nope, I did manage to do that one as well but it was not the cause of the problem, see my posting on the Developer list for the answer :-) JK On 14 March 2012 09:51, Julian Tenney wrote: > Not the > > > > if (someCondition = true) > > > > banana skin? That still gets me from time to time? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 14 March 2012 09:50 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Getting the page name and title to work in > Xerte individual page templates > > > > Sorry I did not get a chance to reply yesterday, I was too busy banging my > head against the wall over some page templates that refused to work in XOT. > The answer turned out to be a simple and obvious one, but it cost a lot of > time before it became obvious what the problem was. > > > > I don't know my way around the source code so this will have to wait for > now. However it this approach is possible it has the advantage of being > able to be introduced retrospectively after the launch of the individual > page templates. > > > > I hope things ease off for you in the near future. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 13 March 2012 14:24, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I?m struggling for time to be honest, things here are pretty mental. BY > all mean have a look in the source code: you?ll need the > mdm.forms.callfunction to call one function in a form from another form, > there are examples in there, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 13 March 2012 13:56 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Getting the page name and title to work in Xerte > individual page templates > > > > At present in the desktop xerte with individual page templates, Xerte gets > the page title for display in the TOC and top left corner of the screen > from the "title" property of the page icon and not from the "name" field of > the xml data. > > > > Attempts to pass this data over at runtime have so far failed, resulting > in incorrect page titles displayed and unidentified being displayed in the > toc. > > > > Would it be possible to modify the code that handles the xwd files so that > it wrote to the page icon's "title" property, the data for the xwd "name" > field on closure of the xwd form. If that was possible it would solve all > the runtime problems as the title property value would match the xwd data > name value. If the "name" property of the page icon was also set to data > for the xwd's "name" field then this would also help the developer as the > project tree would also reflect the page name from the xwd data. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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The check seems simple enough: If processing connectorMenu.xwd/connectorMenu.rlm, make sure the node is called connectorMenu Correct? Tom Citeren Kemp Johnathan : > Hello Tom, > > Your process for building the template.xwd file worked well and the error > flagging helped to identify a number of minor issues in a few of the xwd > files that would have affected their performance. > > There is one possible issue that I found that the error trapping did not > detect, and it caused me a lot of frustration and lost time, followed by a > brief period of pain when I kicked myself once I had discovered the cause > of the problem :-) > > I built the template.xwd file and then tested my new connector pages in > XOT. All seven pages worked in Xerte, but now four of the pages failed to > display anything other than the page title in XOT. I took the files back to > a pageTemplates project and the same four failed to display there as well. > They would not even output debug messages. > > The cause of the problem? > > In Xerte the link between the xwd file and the rlm file is made based on > the file name, the link between the data created by the xwd form and the > page model loaded by the rlm file is made by the node name in the xml data. > So in Xerte the following will work > > connectorMenu.xwd with a node cMenu > connectorMenu.rlm referencing pageIcon.templateData.cMenu[0] > > however this will fail in pageTemplates and XOT as all the xwd files are > gathered together in one template.xwd file, so the link to the relevant > model file is made with the node name. The entry in template.xwd for the > connectorMenu uses cMenu as the node name so XOT goes looking for cMenu.rlm > and since it does not exist the page fails to work. > > This may be obvious to someone used to the XOT way of doing things, but it > is far less obvious if you develop in Xerte. For anyone making the mistake > I made it can be difficult to identify the problem. So if there is any > possibility of building a check for this into your checking routines it > might be worth doing. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 13 March 2012 11:18, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > >> Thanks Tom, >> >> I have got that working. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 12 March 2012 19:52, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> >>> Jonathan, >>> >>> I'll have a look at the non-scrolling window. >>> >>> In the meantime: >>> >>> 1. Depending on your OS, start a cmd as administrator (Vista +) or a >>> normal cmd >>> 2. go to the Xerte folder >>> 3. You can use the following command (this is what xerte calls): >>> php\php.exe scripts\rebuildtemplate.php "path to xwd folder" > >>> convert.log >>> >>> Replace "path to xwd folder"with the folder name where your xwds reside. >>> >>> The convert.log file will contain the feedback, and you can check that >>> file with a text editor. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 12-3-2012 11:48, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> >>> I guess this is a question for Tom, unless anyone else has taken over the >>> work on this. >>> >>> When I last tested the php file that builds the template.xwd file it >>> generated an output report based on all the xwd files in the folder it was >>> processing. This report was output into a non-scrollable window and the >>> text output exceeded the display space available. As a result any details >>> of errors that took place once the text had gone beyond the display area of >>> the window was unavailable. >>> >>> I will have a new set of xwds ready by the end of this week. Is there >>> any possibility of the php file being modified so that I can process all of >>> the files in one batch to verify that they will generate a valid >>> template.xwd file? >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>> any attachment. 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From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Mar 14 10:27:14 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:27:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Getting the page name and title to work in Xerte individual page templates In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA484882D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20120314112714.82817l0lvy9pcuiq@server.tor.nl> I am not sure I understand the solution completely (I understand the issue though) but I/we can have look Jonathan. It would be good to tackle this one as well. Citeren Kemp Johnathan : > Sorry I did not get a chance to reply yesterday, I was too busy banging my > head against the wall over some page templates that refused to work in XOT. > The answer turned out to be a simple and obvious one, but it cost a lot of > time before it became obvious what the problem was. > > I don't know my way around the source code so this will have to wait for > now. However it this approach is possible it has the advantage of being > able to be introduced retrospectively after the launch of the individual > page templates. > > I hope things ease off for you in the near future. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 13 March 2012 14:24, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> I?m struggling for time to be honest, things here are pretty mental. BY >> all mean have a look in the source code: you?ll need the >> mdm.forms.callfunction to call one function in a form from another form, >> there are examples in there, >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 13 March 2012 13:56 >> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Getting the page name and title to work in Xerte >> individual page templates >> >> >> >> At present in the desktop xerte with individual page templates, Xerte gets >> the page title for display in the TOC and top left corner of the screen >> from the "title" property of the page icon and not from the "name" field of >> the xml data. >> >> >> >> Attempts to pass this data over at runtime have so far failed, resulting >> in incorrect page titles displayed and unidentified being displayed in the >> toc. >> >> >> >> Would it be possible to modify the code that handles the xwd files so that >> it wrote to the page icon's "title" property, the data for the xwd "name" >> field on closure of the xwd form. If that was possible it would solve all >> the runtime problems as the title property value would match the xwd data >> name value. If the "name" property of the page icon was also set to data >> for the xwd's "name" field then this would also help the developer as the >> project tree would also reflect the page name from the xwd data. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Mar 14 10:32:37 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:32:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Process of building the template.xwd file from the individual page xwd files. In-Reply-To: <20120314112458.13424ma6rqqwaoe2@server.tor.nl> References: <4F5E5405.8030902@tor.nl> <20120314112458.13424ma6rqqwaoe2@server.tor.nl> Message-ID: Yes, that should do it. Thanks Johnathan On 14 March 2012 10:24, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I'll have a look. The check seems simple enough: > > If processing connectorMenu.xwd/connectorMenu.rlm, make sure the node is > called connectorMenu > > Correct? > > Tom > > Citeren Kemp Johnathan : > > Hello Tom, >> >> Your process for building the template.xwd file worked well and the error >> flagging helped to identify a number of minor issues in a few of the xwd >> files that would have affected their performance. >> >> There is one possible issue that I found that the error trapping did not >> detect, and it caused me a lot of frustration and lost time, followed by a >> brief period of pain when I kicked myself once I had discovered the cause >> of the problem :-) >> >> I built the template.xwd file and then tested my new connector pages in >> XOT. All seven pages worked in Xerte, but now four of the pages failed to >> display anything other than the page title in XOT. I took the files back >> to >> a pageTemplates project and the same four failed to display there as well. >> They would not even output debug messages. >> >> The cause of the problem? >> >> In Xerte the link between the xwd file and the rlm file is made based on >> the file name, the link between the data created by the xwd form and the >> page model loaded by the rlm file is made by the node name in the xml >> data. >> So in Xerte the following will work >> >> connectorMenu.xwd with a node cMenu >> connectorMenu.rlm referencing pageIcon.templateData.cMenu[0] >> >> however this will fail in pageTemplates and XOT as all the xwd files are >> gathered together in one template.xwd file, so the link to the relevant >> model file is made with the node name. The entry in template.xwd for the >> connectorMenu uses cMenu as the node name so XOT goes looking for >> cMenu.rlm >> and since it does not exist the page fails to work. >> >> This may be obvious to someone used to the XOT way of doing things, but it >> is far less obvious if you develop in Xerte. For anyone making the mistake >> I made it can be difficult to identify the problem. So if there is any >> possibility of building a check for this into your checking routines it >> might be worth doing. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 13 March 2012 11:18, Kemp Johnathan >> wrote: >> >> Thanks Tom, >>> >>> I have got that working. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> On 12 March 2012 19:52, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> >>> Jonathan, >>>> >>>> I'll have a look at the non-scrolling window. >>>> >>>> In the meantime: >>>> >>>> 1. Depending on your OS, start a cmd as administrator (Vista +) or a >>>> normal cmd >>>> 2. go to the Xerte folder >>>> 3. You can use the following command (this is what xerte calls): >>>> php\php.exe scripts\rebuildtemplate.php "path to xwd folder" > >>>> convert.log >>>> >>>> Replace "path to xwd folder"with the folder name where your xwds reside. >>>> >>>> The convert.log file will contain the feedback, and you can check that >>>> file with a text editor. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 12-3-2012 11:48, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>> >>>> I guess this is a question for Tom, unless anyone else has taken over >>>> the >>>> work on this. >>>> >>>> When I last tested the php file that builds the template.xwd file it >>>> generated an output report based on all the xwd files in the folder it >>>> was >>>> processing. This report was output into a non-scrollable window and the >>>> text output exceeded the display space available. As a result any >>>> details >>>> of errors that took place once the text had gone beyond the display >>>> area of >>>> the window was unavailable. >>>> >>>> I will have a new set of xwds ready by the end of this week. Is there >>>> any possibility of the php file being modified so that I can process >>>> all of >>>> the files in one batch to verify that they will generate a valid >>>> template.xwd file? >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>> message >>>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please >>>> do >>>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>> in >>>> any attachment. 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Updating wizard.swf solved the problem JK On 14 March 2012 11:22, Julian Tenney wrote: > Update the wizard > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 14 March 2012 11:22 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Language form option in XOT > > > > I am now doing some initial testing in XOT and have noticed that the > feature implemented in Xerte xwd forms for advanced and language check > boxes, appears not to be implemented in XOT. The divider line displays but > the language entries are on permanent display with no check box to show / > hide them. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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In-Reply-To: References: <4F5E5405.8030902@tor.nl> <20120314112458.13424ma6rqqwaoe2@server.tor.nl> Message-ID: <4F610B12.1070803@tor.nl> Jonathan, See attached (should be in /scripts) Interestingly, it complains about xerte.xwd, and xerte.xwd works..... So I looked in the Engine code to try to figure out why... xerteModel is an exception. It is handled seperately in the engine. It load the model given as a parameter.... So, now it gives an error, and it will NOT be added to the template. My proposal would be to rename it to xerteModel.xwd/xerteModel.rlm. That is a safer change than changing the xml node name (as that will break existing rlo's). I have NOT done that. The xwdBuilder.php is also committed to svn. Regards, Tom Op 14-3-2012 11:32, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > Yes, that should do it. > > Thanks > > Johnathan > > On 14 March 2012 10:24, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > I'll have a look. The check seems simple enough: > > If processing connectorMenu.xwd/connectorMenu.rlm, make sure the > node is called connectorMenu > > Correct? > > Tom > > Citeren Kemp Johnathan >: > > Hello Tom, > > Your process for building the template.xwd file worked well > and the error > flagging helped to identify a number of minor issues in a few > of the xwd > files that would have affected their performance. > > There is one possible issue that I found that the error > trapping did not > detect, and it caused me a lot of frustration and lost time, > followed by a > brief period of pain when I kicked myself once I had > discovered the cause > of the problem :-) > > I built the template.xwd file and then tested my new connector > pages in > XOT. All seven pages worked in Xerte, but now four of the > pages failed to > display anything other than the page title in XOT. I took the > files back to > a pageTemplates project and the same four failed to display > there as well. > They would not even output debug messages. > > The cause of the problem? > > In Xerte the link between the xwd file and the rlm file is > made based on > the file name, the link between the data created by the xwd > form and the > page model loaded by the rlm file is made by the node name in > the xml data. > So in Xerte the following will work > > connectorMenu.xwd with a node cMenu > connectorMenu.rlm referencing pageIcon.templateData.cMenu[0] > > however this will fail in pageTemplates and XOT as all the xwd > files are > gathered together in one template.xwd file, so the link to the > relevant > model file is made with the node name. The entry in > template.xwd for the > connectorMenu uses cMenu as the node name so XOT goes looking > for cMenu.rlm > and since it does not exist the page fails to work. > > This may be obvious to someone used to the XOT way of doing > things, but it > is far less obvious if you develop in Xerte. For anyone making > the mistake > I made it can be difficult to identify the problem. So if > there is any > possibility of building a check for this into your checking > routines it > might be worth doing. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 13 March 2012 11:18, Kemp Johnathan > > wrote: > > Thanks Tom, > > I have got that working. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 12 March 2012 19:52, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Jonathan, > > I'll have a look at the non-scrolling window. > > In the meantime: > > 1. Depending on your OS, start a cmd as administrator > (Vista +) or a > normal cmd > 2. go to the Xerte folder > 3. You can use the following command (this is what > xerte calls): > php\php.exe scripts\rebuildtemplate.php "path to xwd > folder" > > convert.log > > Replace "path to xwd folder"with the folder name where > your xwds reside. > > The convert.log file will contain the feedback, and > you can check that > file with a text editor. > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 12-3-2012 11:48, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I guess this is a question for Tom, unless anyone else > has taken over the > work on this. > > When I last tested the php file that builds the > template.xwd file it > generated an output report based on all the xwd files > in the folder it was > processing. This report was output into a > non-scrollable window and the > text output exceeded the display space available. As a > result any details > of errors that took place once the text had gone > beyond the display area of > the window was unavailable. > > I will have a new set of xwds ready by the end of > this week. 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As far as I can tell the only changes that will be required to be made to a few of the xwd files is the addition of the name of the icon once one has been added to the Xerte engine. Other than that they should be stable enough for translation to begin. In the svn I have added in the page wizards section a supporting documents folder which contains a brief guide to support the translation of xwd files into other languages. It is in both Open Office and pdf format, so that others can translate the document if they wish. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 17 March 2012 19:19 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop files developments - ready for testing I have now committed to the svn the new model and xwd files that have support for internationalisation and the generation of a single template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd files. This includes new thumb images were required. I have also provide draft new versions of the project files pagetemplate.rlo complete with new xml and xwd files to provide a variety of project layout / colour change options. There are a number of new pages including 7 connector pages, an inventory page and an index changer page (desktop projects only); I have updated the Project State of Play.rtf file to reflect what I believe is now the current situation. As far as I can tell the only changes that will be required to be made to a few of the xwd files is the addition of the name of the icon once one has been added to the Xerte engine. Other than that they should be stable enough for translation to begin. In the svn I have added in the page wizards section a supporting documents folder which contains a brief guide to support the translation of xwd files into other languages. It is in both Open Office and pdf format, so that others can translate the document if they wish. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Mar 19 10:01:59 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:01:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop files developments - ready for testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA49805B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA49805B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F670417.5060207@tor.nl> Yes, Ultimately, there will be one set. It is NOT needed, but VERY confusing if we don't do that. I am willing to make sure we merge in the changes. Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now in my humble opinion. I appreciate all your hard work, and this will give the Xerte development by the community an enormous boost (I am convinced of that). Given the fact that you/we CANNOT change the identifiers used in the xwd (because that would absolutely break the current XOT LO's, the translation is far for trivial. You really have to know what you can change and what NOT to touch. Your document explains that clearly. Also, if we're not careful, we will re-introduce a maintenance nightmare, if the xwd's of a translation get out of synch with the English ones. My proposal is to have an helper website that will take the English XWD's as master, and build a translation database from those. Than the XWD's for the other languages will be generated from the English XWD and the translation database. If all goes well, I've got something working by the end of the day... Regards, Tom Op 19-3-2012 10:40, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How are we going to merge the files in pageWizards\models with > \templates\pageTemplates\models? We will end up with one set of models? > > Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, > also I've been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces > into \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in > the main set thata ren't reflected in your own? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 17 March 2012 19:19 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Desktop files developments - ready for testing > > I have now committed to the svn the new model and xwd files that have > support for internationalisation and the generation of a single > template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd files. This > includes new thumb images were required. I have also provide draft new > versions of the project files pagetemplate.rlo complete with new xml > and xwd files to provide a variety of project layout / colour change > options. There are a number of new pages including 7 connector pages, > an inventory page and an index changer page (desktop projects only); > > I have updated the Project State of Play.rtf file to reflect what I > believe is now the current situation. > > As far as I can tell the only changes that will be required to be made > to a few of the xwd files is the addition of the name of the icon once > one has been added to the Xerte engine. Other than that they should be > stable enough for translation to begin. In the svn I have added in the > page wizards section a supporting documents folder which contains a > brief guide to support the translation of xwd files into other > languages. It is in both Open Office and pdf format, so that others > can translate the document if they wish. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Mar 19 10:43:36 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 10:43:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop files developments - ready for testing In-Reply-To: <4F670417.5060207@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA49805B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F670417.5060207@tor.nl> Message-ID: Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, also I?ve been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces into \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in the main set thata ren?t reflected in your own? Yes my current models will not include any changes you made on Friday. Tom if you want to update those changes go ahead. I will need to check over the tab nav connector as it may also need modifying since the tab navigator has changed. If you see any issues of accessibility that I have missed in the new pages then by all means address those as well. Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now in my humble opinion. The only reason I implemented the question 1 of 8, you have scored 3 out of 10 etc. in a way that lets you choose whether to put the page number before the count or the count before the page number was because I don't know enough about the variety of languages that Xerte may get translated in to to be sure that one or more of them would not normally express things in what would be to us the reverse order. Just as in English we say telephone number whilst in French it is expresses as "number of the telephone". If this is unlikely to be an issue then there is no point in implementing it this way and simplifying it makes sense. I am happy to be guided by you. Whilst I have put in an amount of work to help with this next version of Xerte I hope I can remain objective to achieving the optimum solution and not become overly attached to any particular feature that I may have introduced. If there are features that I have introduced that you feel could be improved or need modifying then now is the time to speak up. :-) I think I understand what you are referring to with the concept of the translation database. I look forward to seeing what you have come up with. If it means that the English set remain the master set that are updated, and then your database allows for other translations file sets to be generated automatically then that will be extremely valuable in coping with the potential confusion that multiple sets of xwds could introduce. I may not be available now until later today. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 March 2012 10:01, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Yes, > > Ultimately, there will be one set. It is NOT needed, but VERY confusing if > we don't do that. I am willing to make sure we merge in the changes. > > Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the > 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have > to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to > substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C > and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now > in my humble opinion. > > I appreciate all your hard work, and this will give the Xerte development > by the community an enormous boost (I am convinced of that). Given the fact > that you/we CANNOT change the identifiers used in the xwd (because that > would absolutely break the current XOT LO's, the translation is far for > trivial. You really have to know what you can change and what NOT to > touch. Your document explains that clearly. Also, if we're not careful, we > will re-introduce a maintenance nightmare, if the xwd's of a translation > get out of synch with the English ones. > > My proposal is to have an helper website that will take the English XWD's > as master, and build a translation database from those. Than the XWD's for > the other languages will be generated from the English XWD and the > translation database. If all goes well, I've got something working by the > end of the day... > > Regards, > > Tom > > > > Op 19-3-2012 10:40, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How are we going to merge the files in pageWizards\models with > \templates\pageTemplates\models? We will end up with one set of models? > > > > Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, also > I?ve been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces into > \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in the main > set thata ren?t reflected in your own? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 17 March 2012 19:19 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Desktop files developments - ready for testing > > > > I have now committed to the svn the new model and xwd files that have > support for internationalisation and the generation of a single > template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd files. This includes > new thumb images were required. I have also provide draft new versions of > the project files pagetemplate.rlo complete with new xml and xwd files to > provide a variety of project layout / colour change options. There are a > number of new pages including 7 connector pages, an inventory page and an > index changer page (desktop projects only); > > > > I have updated the Project State of Play.rtf file to reflect what I > believe is now the current situation. > > > > As far as I can tell the only changes that will be required to be made to > a few of the xwd files is the addition of the name of the icon once one has > been added to the Xerte engine. Other than that they should be stable > enough for translation to begin. In the svn I have added in the page > wizards section a supporting documents folder which contains a brief guide > to support the translation of xwd files into other languages. It is in both > Open Office and pdf format, so that others can translate the document if > they wish. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing listXerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Mar 19 10:57:19 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:57:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop files developments - ready for testing In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA49805B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F670417.5060207@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4F67110F.5090702@tor.nl> About the 2 out of 4 issue.... Yes, you are absolutely right that you have to be careful with the order of words. My solution is just different, and in a way a bit more flexible. The 'numbers' are referred to by a 'macro'($C, or $T) and replaced in he text before display. This even gives you the freedom as a user to skip the 'of 10' part. I'll put together an example and show you... Regards, Tom Op 19-3-2012 11:43, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, > also I've been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces > into \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in > the main set thata ren't reflected in your own? > > Yes my current models will not include any changes you made on Friday. > Tom if you want to update those changes go ahead. I will need to check > over the tab nav connector as it may also need modifying since the tab > navigator has changed. If you see any issues of accessibility that I > have missed in the new pages then by all means address those as well. > > > Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the > 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to > have to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would > have to substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to > change the $C and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than > the way you do it now in my humble opinion. > > The only reason I implemented the question 1 of 8, you have scored 3 > out of 10 etc. in a way that lets you choose whether to put the page > number before the count or the count before the page number was > because I don't know enough about the variety of languages that Xerte > may get translated in to to be sure that one or more of them would not > normally express things in what would be to us the reverse order. Just > as in English we say telephone number whilst in French it is expresses > as "number of the telephone". If this is unlikely to be an issue then > there is no point in implementing it this way and simplifying it makes > sense. I am happy to be guided by you. > > Whilst I have put in an amount of work to help with this next version > of Xerte I hope I can remain objective to achieving the optimum > solution and not become overly attached to any particular feature that > I may have introduced. If there are features that I have introduced > that you feel could be improved or need modifying then now is the time > to speak up. :-) > > I think I understand what you are referring to with the concept of > the translation database. I look forward to seeing what you have come > up with. If it means that the English set remain the master set that > are updated, and then your database allows for other translations file > sets to be generated automatically then that will be extremely > valuable in coping with the potential confusion that multiple sets of > xwds could introduce. > > I may not be available now until later today. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 19 March 2012 10:01, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Yes, > > Ultimately, there will be one set. It is NOT needed, but VERY > confusing if we don't do that. I am willing to make sure we merge > in the changes. > > Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled > the 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH > easier to have to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the > code you would have to substitute $C and $T, and you have to > explain users NOT to change the $C and $T, but it is much more > flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now in my humble opinion. > > I appreciate all your hard work, and this will give the Xerte > development by the community an enormous boost (I am convinced of > that). Given the fact that you/we CANNOT change the identifiers > used in the xwd (because that would absolutely break the current > XOT LO's, the translation is far for trivial. You really have to > know what you can change and what NOT to touch. Your document > explains that clearly. Also, if we're not careful, we will > re-introduce a maintenance nightmare, if the xwd's of a > translation get out of synch with the English ones. > > My proposal is to have an helper website that will take the > English XWD's as master, and build a translation database from > those. Than the XWD's for the other languages will be generated > from the English XWD and the translation database. If all goes > well, I've got something working by the end of the day... > > Regards, > > Tom > > > > Op 19-3-2012 10:40, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> How are we going to merge the files in pageWizards\models with >> \templates\pageTemplates\models? We will end up with one set of >> models? >> >> Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility >> tweaks, also I've been checking some occasional fixes / new bits >> and pieces into \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are >> possibly changes in the main set thata ren't reflected in your own? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of >> *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 17 March 2012 19:19 >> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Desktop files developments - ready for testing >> >> I have now committed to the svn the new model and xwd files that >> have support for internationalisation and the generation of a >> single template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd files. >> This includes new thumb images were required. I have also provide >> draft new versions of the project files pagetemplate.rlo complete >> with new xml and xwd files to provide a variety of project layout >> / colour change options. There are a number of new pages >> including 7 connector pages, an inventory page and an index >> changer page (desktop projects only); >> >> I have updated the Project State of Play.rtf file to reflect what >> I believe is now the current situation. >> >> As far as I can tell the only changes that will be required to be >> made to a few of the xwd files is the addition of the name of the >> icon once one has been added to the Xerte engine. Other than that >> they should be stable enough for translation to begin. In the svn >> I have added in the page wizards section a supporting documents >> folder which contains a brief guide to support the translation of >> xwd files into other languages. It is in both Open Office and pdf >> format, so that others can translate the document if they wish. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Mar 19 13:37:25 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:37:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop files developments - ready for testing In-Reply-To: <4F67110F.5090702@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA49805B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F670417.5060207@tor.nl> <4F67110F.5090702@tor.nl> Message-ID: I got back earlier than expected. Tom, do you want me to update the files in line with Julian's changes or do you want to handle it? With respect to the Xerte desktop menu uptions do you think they need looking at? Currently to create a new project we have File / New... Pages / Create Template Project from Pages Pages / Create new Page Project Templates / Case Study Templates / Media Interactions Templates / Menu Templates / Page Templates Templates / Presentation Templates / folders e.g. Dependent on what Page Wizards have been installed. It's my understanding that the intention is that every page should be in Toolkits / Page Templates and that all the rest of the templates are effectively legacy items left over to provide compatibility with earlier projects. Would it make sense to update the menu so that we had File / New / Basic project (i.e. what you get now when you do File / New.) / Developer project (i.e. the new style of project offering individual page templates) / Toolkits style project (or Author project) i.e. pageTemplates project Templates / Legacy (or Deprecated) / Case Study / Media Interactions / Menu / Presentation / Folders (i.e. the page wizard folders if Page Wizards are installed) The Page Wizards should now be considered legacy items. I would not recommend that they continue to be available for download as all the functionality they offer is now in the Individual Page Templates as provided by the Developer project. What do you think. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 March 2012 10:57, Tom Reijnders wrote: > About the 2 out of 4 issue.... > > Yes, you are absolutely right that you have to be careful with the order > of words. My solution is just different, and in a way a bit more flexible. > The 'numbers' are referred to by a 'macro'($C, or $T) and replaced in he > text before display. This even gives you the freedom as a user to skip the > 'of 10' part. > > I'll put together an example and show you... > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 19-3-2012 11:43, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, also > I?ve been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces into > \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in the main > set thata ren?t reflected in your own? > > Yes my current models will not include any changes you made on Friday. > Tom if you want to update those changes go ahead. I will need to check over > the tab nav connector as it may also need modifying since the tab navigator > has changed. If you see any issues of accessibility that I have missed in > the new pages then by all means address those as well. > > > Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the > 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have > to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to > substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C > and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now > in my humble opinion. > > The only reason I implemented the question 1 of 8, you have scored 3 out > of 10 etc. in a way that lets you choose whether to put the page number > before the count or the count before the page number was because I don't > know enough about the variety of languages that Xerte may get translated in > to to be sure that one or more of them would not normally express things in > what would be to us the reverse order. Just as in English we say telephone > number whilst in French it is expresses as "number of the telephone". If > this is unlikely to be an issue then there is no point in implementing it > this way and simplifying it makes sense. I am happy to be guided by you. > > Whilst I have put in an amount of work to help with this next version of > Xerte I hope I can remain objective to achieving the optimum solution and > not become overly attached to any particular feature that I may have > introduced. If there are features that I have introduced that you feel > could be improved or need modifying then now is the time to speak up. :-) > > I think I understand what you are referring to with the concept of the > translation database. I look forward to seeing what you have come up with. > If it means that the English set remain the master set that are updated, > and then your database allows for other translations file sets to be > generated automatically then that will be extremely valuable in coping with > the potential confusion that multiple sets of xwds could introduce. > > I may not be available now until later today. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 19 March 2012 10:01, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> Yes, >> >> Ultimately, there will be one set. It is NOT needed, but VERY confusing >> if we don't do that. I am willing to make sure we merge in the changes. >> >> Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the >> 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have >> to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to >> substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C >> and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now >> in my humble opinion. >> >> I appreciate all your hard work, and this will give the Xerte development >> by the community an enormous boost (I am convinced of that). Given the fact >> that you/we CANNOT change the identifiers used in the xwd (because that >> would absolutely break the current XOT LO's, the translation is far for >> trivial. You really have to know what you can change and what NOT to >> touch. Your document explains that clearly. Also, if we're not careful, we >> will re-introduce a maintenance nightmare, if the xwd's of a translation >> get out of synch with the English ones. >> >> My proposal is to have an helper website that will take the English XWD's >> as master, and build a translation database from those. Than the XWD's for >> the other languages will be generated from the English XWD and the >> translation database. If all goes well, I've got something working by the >> end of the day... >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> Op 19-3-2012 10:40, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> How are we going to merge the files in pageWizards\models with >> \templates\pageTemplates\models? We will end up with one set of models? >> >> >> >> Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, also >> I?ve been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces into >> \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in the main >> set thata ren?t reflected in your own? >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ >> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 17 March 2012 19:19 >> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Desktop files developments - ready for testing >> >> >> >> I have now committed to the svn the new model and xwd files that have >> support for internationalisation and the generation of a single >> template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd files. This includes >> new thumb images were required. I have also provide draft new versions of >> the project files pagetemplate.rlo complete with new xml and xwd files to >> provide a variety of project layout / colour change options. There are a >> number of new pages including 7 connector pages, an inventory page and an >> index changer page (desktop projects only); >> >> >> >> I have updated the Project State of Play.rtf file to reflect what I >> believe is now the current situation. >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell the only changes that will be required to be made to >> a few of the xwd files is the addition of the name of the icon once one has >> been added to the Xerte engine. Other than that they should be stable >> enough for translation to begin. In the svn I have added in the page >> wizards section a supporting documents folder which contains a brief guide >> to support the translation of xwd files into other languages. It is in both >> Open Office and pdf format, so that others can translate the document if >> they wish. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >> permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing listXerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing listXerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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My preference is to use Open Office and to generate an .odt file so that others can use the file as a basis for creating a translation, as well as a .pdf file for use by learning object authors. Will that be appropriate for the new web site or do you have other preferences? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Mar 19 14:35:29 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:35:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Page Documentation and the new Xerte Community Web Site In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F674431.40503@tor.nl> That is fine with me. PDF for the people consuming the information, and OpenOffice is fine with me as a means to create open source documentation, as it is available to anyone... Wiki is also a possibility.... Op 19-3-2012 14:40, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > I am in the process of putting together some documentation to support > the use of the Connector pages. > > My preference is to use Open Office and to generate an .odt file so > that others can use the file as a basis for creating a translation, as > well as a .pdf file for use by learning object authors. > > Will that be appropriate for the new web site or do you have other > preferences? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Mar 19 16:10:05 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:10:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop files developments - ready for testing In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA49805B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F670417.5060207@tor.nl> <4F67110F.5090702@tor.nl> Message-ID: Tom, In the absence of an answer I will add Julian's changes now. I should be able to update the pageWizard section of the svn with the changes by end of play today :-) Kind regards Johnathan On 19 March 2012 13:37, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > I got back earlier than expected. > > Tom, do you want me to update the files in line with Julian's changes or > do you want to handle it? > > With respect to the Xerte desktop menu uptions do you think they need > looking at? > > Currently to create a new project we have > > File / New... > Pages / Create Template Project from Pages > Pages / Create new Page Project > Templates / Case Study > Templates / Media Interactions > Templates / Menu > Templates / Page Templates > Templates / Presentation > Templates / folders e.g. Dependent on what Page Wizards have been > installed. > > It's my understanding that the intention is that every page should be in > Toolkits / Page Templates and that all the rest of the templates are > effectively legacy items left over to provide compatibility with earlier > projects. > > Would it make sense to update the menu so that we had > > File / New > / Basic project (i.e. what you get now when you do File / > New.) > / Developer project (i.e. the new style of project > offering individual page templates) > / Toolkits style project (or Author project) i.e. > pageTemplates project > > Templates / Legacy (or Deprecated) > / Case Study > / Media Interactions > / Menu > / Presentation > / Folders (i.e. the page wizard folders if > Page Wizards are installed) > > The Page Wizards should now be considered legacy items. I would not > recommend that they continue to be available for download as all the > functionality they offer is now in the Individual Page Templates as > provided by the Developer project. > > What do you think. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > On 19 March 2012 10:57, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> About the 2 out of 4 issue.... >> >> Yes, you are absolutely right that you have to be careful with the order >> of words. My solution is just different, and in a way a bit more flexible. >> The 'numbers' are referred to by a 'macro'($C, or $T) and replaced in he >> text before display. This even gives you the freedom as a user to skip the >> 'of 10' part. >> >> I'll put together an example and show you... >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom >> >> Op 19-3-2012 11:43, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, also >> I?ve been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces into >> \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in the main >> set thata ren?t reflected in your own? >> >> Yes my current models will not include any changes you made on Friday. >> Tom if you want to update those changes go ahead. I will need to check over >> the tab nav connector as it may also need modifying since the tab navigator >> has changed. If you see any issues of accessibility that I have missed in >> the new pages then by all means address those as well. >> >> >> Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the >> 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have >> to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to >> substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C >> and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now >> in my humble opinion. >> >> The only reason I implemented the question 1 of 8, you have scored 3 >> out of 10 etc. in a way that lets you choose whether to put the page number >> before the count or the count before the page number was because I don't >> know enough about the variety of languages that Xerte may get translated in >> to to be sure that one or more of them would not normally express things in >> what would be to us the reverse order. Just as in English we say telephone >> number whilst in French it is expresses as "number of the telephone". If >> this is unlikely to be an issue then there is no point in implementing it >> this way and simplifying it makes sense. I am happy to be guided by you. >> >> Whilst I have put in an amount of work to help with this next version >> of Xerte I hope I can remain objective to achieving the optimum solution >> and not become overly attached to any particular feature that I may have >> introduced. If there are features that I have introduced that you feel >> could be improved or need modifying then now is the time to speak up. :-) >> >> I think I understand what you are referring to with the concept of the >> translation database. I look forward to seeing what you have come up with. >> If it means that the English set remain the master set that are updated, >> and then your database allows for other translations file sets to be >> generated automatically then that will be extremely valuable in coping with >> the potential confusion that multiple sets of xwds could introduce. >> >> I may not be available now until later today. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 19 March 2012 10:01, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> >>> Yes, >>> >>> Ultimately, there will be one set. It is NOT needed, but VERY confusing >>> if we don't do that. I am willing to make sure we merge in the changes. >>> >>> Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the >>> 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have >>> to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to >>> substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C >>> and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now >>> in my humble opinion. >>> >>> I appreciate all your hard work, and this will give the Xerte >>> development by the community an enormous boost (I am convinced of that). >>> Given the fact that you/we CANNOT change the identifiers used in the xwd >>> (because that would absolutely break the current XOT LO's, the translation >>> is far for trivial. You really have to know what you can change and what >>> NOT to touch. Your document explains that clearly. Also, if we're not >>> careful, we will re-introduce a maintenance nightmare, if the xwd's of a >>> translation get out of synch with the English ones. >>> >>> My proposal is to have an helper website that will take the English >>> XWD's as master, and build a translation database from those. Than the >>> XWD's for the other languages will be generated from the English XWD and >>> the translation database. If all goes well, I've got something working by >>> the end of the day... >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >>> Op 19-3-2012 10:40, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> >>> How are we going to merge the files in pageWizards\models with >>> \templates\pageTemplates\models? We will end up with one set of models? >>> >>> >>> >>> Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, also >>> I?ve been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces into >>> \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in the main >>> set thata ren?t reflected in your own? >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ >>> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >>> *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 17 March 2012 19:19 >>> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Desktop files developments - ready for testing >>> >>> >>> >>> I have now committed to the svn the new model and xwd files that have >>> support for internationalisation and the generation of a single >>> template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd files. This includes >>> new thumb images were required. I have also provide draft new versions of >>> the project files pagetemplate.rlo complete with new xml and xwd files to >>> provide a variety of project layout / colour change options. There are a >>> number of new pages including 7 connector pages, an inventory page and an >>> index changer page (desktop projects only); >>> >>> >>> >>> I have updated the Project State of Play.rtf file to reflect what I >>> believe is now the current situation. >>> >>> >>> >>> As far as I can tell the only changes that will be required to be made >>> to a few of the xwd files is the addition of the name of the icon once one >>> has been added to the Xerte engine. Other than that they should be stable >>> enough for translation to begin. In the svn I have added in the page >>> wizards section a supporting documents folder which contains a brief guide >>> to support the translation of xwd files into other languages. It is in both >>> Open Office and pdf format, so that others can translate the document if >>> they wish. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >>> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >>> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >>> permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing listXerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Mar 19 16:15:55 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:15:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop files developments - ready for testing In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA49805B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F670417.5060207@tor.nl> <4F67110F.5090702@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4980941@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Thanks. Everything is checked in. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 19 March 2012 16:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop files developments - ready for testing Tom, In the absence of an answer I will add Julian's changes now. I should be able to update the pageWizard section of the svn with the changes by end of play today :-) Kind regards Johnathan On 19 March 2012 13:37, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: I got back earlier than expected. Tom, do you want me to update the files in line with Julian's changes or do you want to handle it? With respect to the Xerte desktop menu uptions do you think they need looking at? Currently to create a new project we have File / New... Pages / Create Template Project from Pages Pages / Create new Page Project Templates / Case Study Templates / Media Interactions Templates / Menu Templates / Page Templates Templates / Presentation Templates / folders e.g. Dependent on what Page Wizards have been installed. It's my understanding that the intention is that every page should be in Toolkits / Page Templates and that all the rest of the templates are effectively legacy items left over to provide compatibility with earlier projects. Would it make sense to update the menu so that we had File / New / Basic project (i.e. what you get now when you do File / New.) / Developer project (i.e. the new style of project offering individual page templates) / Toolkits style project (or Author project) i.e. pageTemplates project Templates / Legacy (or Deprecated) / Case Study / Media Interactions / Menu / Presentation / Folders (i.e. the page wizard folders if Page Wizards are installed) The Page Wizards should now be considered legacy items. I would not recommend that they continue to be available for download as all the functionality they offer is now in the Individual Page Templates as provided by the Developer project. What do you think. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 March 2012 10:57, Tom Reijnders > wrote: About the 2 out of 4 issue.... Yes, you are absolutely right that you have to be careful with the order of words. My solution is just different, and in a way a bit more flexible. The 'numbers' are referred to by a 'macro'($C, or $T) and replaced in he text before display. This even gives you the freedom as a user to skip the 'of 10' part. I'll put together an example and show you... Regards, Tom Op 19-3-2012 11:43, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, also I've been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces into \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in the main set thata ren't reflected in your own? Yes my current models will not include any changes you made on Friday. Tom if you want to update those changes go ahead. I will need to check over the tab nav connector as it may also need modifying since the tab navigator has changed. If you see any issues of accessibility that I have missed in the new pages then by all means address those as well. Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now in my humble opinion. The only reason I implemented the question 1 of 8, you have scored 3 out of 10 etc. in a way that lets you choose whether to put the page number before the count or the count before the page number was because I don't know enough about the variety of languages that Xerte may get translated in to to be sure that one or more of them would not normally express things in what would be to us the reverse order. Just as in English we say telephone number whilst in French it is expresses as "number of the telephone". If this is unlikely to be an issue then there is no point in implementing it this way and simplifying it makes sense. I am happy to be guided by you. Whilst I have put in an amount of work to help with this next version of Xerte I hope I can remain objective to achieving the optimum solution and not become overly attached to any particular feature that I may have introduced. If there are features that I have introduced that you feel could be improved or need modifying then now is the time to speak up. :-) I think I understand what you are referring to with the concept of the translation database. I look forward to seeing what you have come up with. If it means that the English set remain the master set that are updated, and then your database allows for other translations file sets to be generated automatically then that will be extremely valuable in coping with the potential confusion that multiple sets of xwds could introduce. I may not be available now until later today. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 March 2012 10:01, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Yes, Ultimately, there will be one set. It is NOT needed, but VERY confusing if we don't do that. I am willing to make sure we merge in the changes. Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now in my humble opinion. I appreciate all your hard work, and this will give the Xerte development by the community an enormous boost (I am convinced of that). Given the fact that you/we CANNOT change the identifiers used in the xwd (because that would absolutely break the current XOT LO's, the translation is far for trivial. You really have to know what you can change and what NOT to touch. Your document explains that clearly. Also, if we're not careful, we will re-introduce a maintenance nightmare, if the xwd's of a translation get out of synch with the English ones. My proposal is to have an helper website that will take the English XWD's as master, and build a translation database from those. Than the XWD's for the other languages will be generated from the English XWD and the translation database. If all goes well, I've got something working by the end of the day... Regards, Tom Op 19-3-2012 10:40, Julian Tenney schreef: How are we going to merge the files in pageWizards\models with \templates\pageTemplates\models? We will end up with one set of models? Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, also I've been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces into \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in the main set thata ren't reflected in your own? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 17 March 2012 19:19 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Desktop files developments - ready for testing I have now committed to the svn the new model and xwd files that have support for internationalisation and the generation of a single template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd files. This includes new thumb images were required. I have also provide draft new versions of the project files pagetemplate.rlo complete with new xml and xwd files to provide a variety of project layout / colour change options. There are a number of new pages including 7 connector pages, an inventory page and an index changer page (desktop projects only); I have updated the Project State of Play.rtf file to reflect what I believe is now the current situation. As far as I can tell the only changes that will be required to be made to a few of the xwd files is the addition of the name of the icon once one has been added to the Xerte engine. Other than that they should be stable enough for translation to begin. In the svn I have added in the page wizards section a supporting documents folder which contains a brief guide to support the translation of xwd files into other languages. It is in both Open Office and pdf format, so that others can translate the document if they wish. Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Mar 19 16:24:31 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:24:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop files developments - ready for testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4980941@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA49805B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F670417.5060207@tor.nl> <4F67110F.5090702@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4980941@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F675DBF.6000001@tor.nl> Brilliant... Op 19-3-2012 17:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Thanks. Everything is checked in. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 19 March 2012 16:10 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop files developments - ready for testing > > Tom, > > In the absence of an answer I will add Julian's changes now. > > I should be able to update the pageWizard section of the svn with the > changes by end of play today :-) > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 19 March 2012 13:37, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > I got back earlier than expected. > > Tom, do you want me to update the files in line with Julian's changes > or do you want to handle it? > > With respect to the Xerte desktop menu uptions do you think they need > looking at? > > Currently to create a new project we have > > File / New... > > Pages / Create Template Project from Pages > > Pages / Create new Page Project > > Templates / Case Study > > Templates / Media Interactions > > Templates / Menu > > Templates / Page Templates > > Templates / Presentation > > Templates / folders e.g. Dependent on what Page Wizards have been > installed. > > It's my understanding that the intention is that every page should be > in Toolkits / Page Templates and that all the rest of the templates > are effectively legacy items left over to provide compatibility with > earlier projects. > > Would it make sense to update the menu so that we had > > File / New > > / Basic project (i.e. what you get now when you do > File / New.) > > / Developer project (i.e. the new style of project > offering individual page templates) > > / Toolkits style project (or Author project) i.e. > pageTemplates project > > Templates / Legacy (or Deprecated) > > / Case Study > > / Media Interactions > > / Menu > > / Presentation > > / Folders (i.e. the page wizard folders > if Page Wizards are installed) > > The Page Wizards should now be considered legacy items. I would not > recommend that they continue to be available for download as all the > functionality they offer is now in the Individual Page Templates as > provided by the Developer project. > > What do you think. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 19 March 2012 10:57, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > About the 2 out of 4 issue.... > > Yes, you are absolutely right that you have to be careful with the > order of words. My solution is just different, and in a way a bit more > flexible. The 'numbers' are referred to by a 'macro'($C, or $T) and > replaced in he text before display. This even gives you the freedom as > a user to skip the 'of 10' part. > > I'll put together an example and show you... > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 19-3-2012 11:43, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, > also I've been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and > pieces into \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly > changes in the main set thata ren't reflected in your own? > > Yes my current models will not include any changes you made on > Friday. Tom if you want to update those changes go ahead. I will > need to check over the tab nav connector as it may also need > modifying since the tab navigator has changed. If you see any > issues of accessibility that I have missed in the new pages then > by all means address those as well. > > Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled > the 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH > easier to have to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the > code you would have to substitute $C and $T, and you have to > explain users NOT to change the $C and $T, but it is much more > flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now in my humble opinion. > > The only reason I implemented the question 1 of 8, you have scored > 3 out of 10 etc. in a way that lets you choose whether to put the > page number before the count or the count before the page number > was because I don't know enough about the variety of languages > that Xerte may get translated in to to be sure that one or more of > them would not normally express things in what would be to us the > reverse order. Just as in English we say telephone number whilst > in French it is expresses as "number of the telephone". If this is > unlikely to be an issue then there is no point in implementing it > this way and simplifying it makes sense. I am happy to be guided > by you. > > Whilst I have put in an amount of work to help with this next > version of Xerte I hope I can remain objective to achieving the > optimum solution and not become overly attached to any particular > feature that I may have introduced. If there are features that I > have introduced that you feel could be improved or need modifying > then now is the time to speak up. :-) > > I think I understand what you are referring to with the concept > of the translation database. I look forward to seeing what you > have come up with. If it means that the English set remain the > master set that are updated, and then your database allows for > other translations file sets to be generated automatically then > that will be extremely valuable in coping with the potential > confusion that multiple sets of xwds could introduce. > > I may not be available now until later today. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 19 March 2012 10:01, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Yes, > > Ultimately, there will be one set. It is NOT needed, but VERY > confusing if we don't do that. I am willing to make sure we merge > in the changes. > > Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled > the 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH > easier to have to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the > code you would have to substitute $C and $T, and you have to > explain users NOT to change the $C and $T, but it is much more > flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now in my humble opinion. > > I appreciate all your hard work, and this will give the Xerte > development by the community an enormous boost (I am convinced of > that). Given the fact that you/we CANNOT change the identifiers > used in the xwd (because that would absolutely break the current > XOT LO's, the translation is far for trivial. You really have to > know what you can change and what NOT to touch. Your document > explains that clearly. Also, if we're not careful, we will > re-introduce a maintenance nightmare, if the xwd's of a > translation get out of synch with the English ones. > > My proposal is to have an helper website that will take the > English XWD's as master, and build a translation database from > those. Than the XWD's for the other languages will be generated > from the English XWD and the translation database. If all goes > well, I've got something working by the end of the day... > > Regards, > > Tom > > > > Op 19-3-2012 10:40, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How are we going to merge the files in pageWizards\models with > \templates\pageTemplates\models? We will end up with one set of > models? > > Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, > also I've been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and > pieces into \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly > changes in the main set thata ren't reflected in your own? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 17 March 2012 19:19 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Desktop files developments - ready for testing > > I have now committed to the svn the new model and xwd files that > have support for internationalisation and the generation of a > single template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd files. > This includes new thumb images were required. I have also provide > draft new versions of the project files pagetemplate.rlo complete > with new xml and xwd files to provide a variety of project layout > / colour change options. There are a number of new pages including > 7 connector pages, an inventory page and an index changer page > (desktop projects only); > > I have updated the Project State of Play.rtf file to reflect what > I believe is now the current situation. > > As far as I can tell the only changes that will be required to be > made to a few of the xwd files is the addition of the name of the > icon once one has been added to the Xerte engine. Other than that > they should be stable enough for translation to begin. In the svn > I have added in the page wizards section a supporting documents > folder which contains a brief guide to support the translation of > xwd files into other languages. It is in both Open Office and pdf > format, so that others can translate the document if they wish. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Mar 19 18:15:13 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:15:13 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop files developments - ready for testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4980941@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA49805B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F670417.5060207@tor.nl> <4F67110F.5090702@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4980941@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have updated all the Page Wizard model files for the pages that Julian changed recently, save for the Tab Nav + page as it appears to be displaying a couple of problems - as detailed in the thread that Alistair started. Once they are fixed I will update that model file as well. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 March 2012 16:15, Julian Tenney wrote: > Thanks. Everything is checked in. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 19 March 2012 16:10 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Desktop files developments - ready for testing > > > > Tom, > > > > In the absence of an answer I will add Julian's changes now. > > > > I should be able to update the pageWizard section of the svn with the > changes by end of play today :-) > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 19 March 2012 13:37, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > I got back earlier than expected. > > > > Tom, do you want me to update the files in line with Julian's changes or > do you want to handle it? > > > > With respect to the Xerte desktop menu uptions do you think they need > looking at? > > > > Currently to create a new project we have > > > > File / New... > > Pages / Create Template Project from Pages > > Pages / Create new Page Project > > Templates / Case Study > > Templates / Media Interactions > > Templates / Menu > > Templates / Page Templates > > Templates / Presentation > > Templates / folders e.g. Dependent on what Page Wizards have been > installed. > > > > It's my understanding that the intention is that every page should be in > Toolkits / Page Templates and that all the rest of the templates are > effectively legacy items left over to provide compatibility with earlier > projects. > > > > Would it make sense to update the menu so that we had > > > > File / New > > / Basic project (i.e. what you get now when you do File / > New.) > > / Developer project (i.e. the new style of project > offering individual page templates) > > / Toolkits style project (or Author project) i.e. > pageTemplates project > > > > Templates / Legacy (or Deprecated) > > / Case Study > > / Media Interactions > > / Menu > > / Presentation > > / Folders (i.e. the page wizard folders if > Page Wizards are installed) > > > > The Page Wizards should now be considered legacy items. I would not > recommend that they continue to be available for download as all the > functionality they offer is now in the Individual Page Templates as > provided by the Developer project. > > > > What do you think. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 19 March 2012 10:57, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > About the 2 out of 4 issue.... > > Yes, you are absolutely right that you have to be careful with the order > of words. My solution is just different, and in a way a bit more flexible. > The 'numbers' are referred to by a 'macro'($C, or $T) and replaced in he > text before display. This even gives you the freedom as a user to skip the > 'of 10' part. > > I'll put together an example and show you... > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 19-3-2012 11:43, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, also > I?ve been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces into > \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in the main > set thata ren?t reflected in your own? > > > > Yes my current models will not include any changes you made on Friday. Tom > if you want to update those changes go ahead. I will need to check over the > tab nav connector as it may also need modifying since the tab navigator has > changed. If you see any issues of accessibility that I have missed in the > new pages then by all means address those as well. > > > > > > Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the > 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have > to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to > substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C > and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now > in my humble opinion. > > > > The only reason I implemented the question 1 of 8, you have scored 3 out > of 10 etc. in a way that lets you choose whether to put the page number > before the count or the count before the page number was because I don't > know enough about the variety of languages that Xerte may get translated in > to to be sure that one or more of them would not normally express things in > what would be to us the reverse order. Just as in English we say telephone > number whilst in French it is expresses as "number of the telephone". If > this is unlikely to be an issue then there is no point in implementing it > this way and simplifying it makes sense. I am happy to be guided by you. > > > > Whilst I have put in an amount of work to help with this next version of > Xerte I hope I can remain objective to achieving the optimum solution and > not become overly attached to any particular feature that I may have > introduced. If there are features that I have introduced that you feel > could be improved or need modifying then now is the time to speak up. :-) > > > > I think I understand what you are referring to with the concept of the > translation database. I look forward to seeing what you have come up with. > If it means that the English set remain the master set that are updated, > and then your database allows for other translations file sets to be > generated automatically then that will be extremely valuable in coping with > the potential confusion that multiple sets of xwds could introduce. > > > > I may not be available now until later today. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 19 March 2012 10:01, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Yes, > > Ultimately, there will be one set. It is NOT needed, but VERY confusing if > we don't do that. I am willing to make sure we merge in the changes. > > Furthermore, Jonathan, do you mind if I change the way you handled the > 'You scored 2 out of 4' issue. For a translator it is MUCH easier to have > to translate 'You answered $C out of $T'. In the code you would have to > substitute $C and $T, and you have to explain users NOT to change the $C > and $T, but it is much more flexible and cleaner than the way you do it now > in my humble opinion. > > I appreciate all your hard work, and this will give the Xerte development > by the community an enormous boost (I am convinced of that). Given the fact > that you/we CANNOT change the identifiers used in the xwd (because that > would absolutely break the current XOT LO's, the translation is far for > trivial. You really have to know what you can change and what NOT to > touch. Your document explains that clearly. Also, if we're not careful, we > will re-introduce a maintenance nightmare, if the xwd's of a translation > get out of synch with the English ones. > > My proposal is to have an helper website that will take the English XWD's > as master, and build a translation database from those. Than the XWD's for > the other languages will be generated from the English XWD and the > translation database. If all goes well, I've got something working by the > end of the day... > > Regards, > > Tom > > > > Op 19-3-2012 10:40, Julian Tenney schreef: > > How are we going to merge the files in pageWizards\models with > \templates\pageTemplates\models? We will end up with one set of models? > > > > Alistair was here on Friday and we did a few accessibility tweaks, also > I?ve been checking some occasional fixes / new bits and pieces into > \templates\pageTemplates\models, so there are possibly changes in the main > set thata ren?t reflected in your own? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 17 March 2012 19:19 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Desktop files developments - ready for testing > > > > I have now committed to the svn the new model and xwd files that have > support for internationalisation and the generation of a single > template.xwd file from a set of individual page xwd files. This includes > new thumb images were required. I have also provide draft new versions of > the project files pagetemplate.rlo complete with new xml and xwd files to > provide a variety of project layout / colour change options. There are a > number of new pages including 7 connector pages, an inventory page and an > index changer page (desktop projects only); > > > > I have updated the Project State of Play.rtf file to reflect what I > believe is now the current situation. > > > > As far as I can tell the only changes that will be required to be made to > a few of the xwd files is the addition of the name of the icon once one has > been added to the Xerte engine. Other than that they should be stable > enough for translation to begin. In the svn I have added in the page > wizards section a supporting documents folder which contains a brief guide > to support the translation of xwd files into other languages. It is in both > Open Office and pdf format, so that others can translate the document if > they wish. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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It occurs to me that having created the models and individual xwds we now might have at least what might be considered enough for alpha testing. Yesterday Stefanie Panke indicated that she is producing what appears to be some quite comprehensive documentation for Xerte. It might serve both Stefanie and the projects needs well if she was able to have access to a pre-release version of 2.18 so that she could base her documentation for the desktop version around the features that it will include instead of referring to the "Page Wizards". In return her use of the pre-release version, if she is interested in doing this, could provide some useful testing. I am all to aware that at present I may be the only person to have made any use of the new models and xwds and I am far to close to them to see things that might appear obvious to someone approaching them who is unfamiliar with them. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Mar 21 10:02:20 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:02:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Alpha / Beta Testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4A6AFF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Alistair is looking to get a test server setup that we can all access, and we can make a beta 2.18 build of xerte easily enough. I think Stephanie is doing good stuff, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 March 2012 09:47 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Alpha / Beta Testing What are the plans for making a pre-release version of Xerte and XOT available for testing? It occurs to me that having created the models and individual xwds we now might have at least what might be considered enough for alpha testing. Yesterday Stefanie Panke indicated that she is producing what appears to be some quite comprehensive documentation for Xerte. It might serve both Stefanie and the projects needs well if she was able to have access to a pre-release version of 2.18 so that she could base her documentation for the desktop version around the features that it will include instead of referring to the "Page Wizards". In return her use of the pre-release version, if she is interested in doing this, could provide some useful testing. I am all to aware that at present I may be the only person to have made any use of the new models and xwds and I am far to close to them to see things that might appear obvious to someone approaching them who is unfamiliar with them. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Mar 21 10:10:27 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:10:27 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Alpha / Beta Testing In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4A6AFF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4A6AFF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Alistair is looking to get a test server setup that we can all access, and we can make a beta 2.18 build of xerte easily enough. That's Grand :-) I think Stephanie is doing good stuff, It certainly looks that way - she seems to be very comprehensive in her intended topic coverage. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 March 2012 10:02, Julian Tenney wrote: > Alistair is looking to get a test server setup that we can all access, and > we can make a beta 2.18 build of xerte easily enough. I think Stephanie is > doing good stuff, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 March 2012 09:47 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Alpha / Beta Testing > > > > What are the plans for making a pre-release version of Xerte and XOT > available for testing? > > > > It occurs to me that having created the models and individual xwds we now > might have at least what might be considered enough for alpha testing. > > > > Yesterday Stefanie Panke indicated that she is producing what appears to > be some quite comprehensive documentation for Xerte. It might serve both > Stefanie and the projects needs well if she was able to have access to a > pre-release version of 2.18 so that she could base her documentation for > the desktop version around the features that it will include instead of > referring to the "Page Wizards". In return her use of the pre-release > version, if she is interested in doing this, could provide some useful > testing. I am all to aware that at present I may be the only person to have > made any use of the new models and xwds and I am far to close to them to > see things that might appear obvious to someone approaching them who is > unfamiliar with them. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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We can't work out where this file is if it's not preview_xerte_top. Can anyone help? (Pat?!) Thanks Fay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 22 09:15:07 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:15:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Changing the menu on title page of Xerte (Jyoti Awasthy) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <643436D3-F709-4FE4-ABBE-1E960415BB32@googlemail.com> Some advice on styling xerte was posted to the main xerte list yesterday and so should be in the archives On 22 Mar 2012, at 05:26, Jyoti Awasthy wrote: > Hi Pat > > I am working on Desktop Xerte. I want to customize the look and feel of menu bar (want to add text, logo and format the same). > > Thanks > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Mar 22 10:08:54 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:08:54 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview_xerte_top In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: preview_xerte_top is pretty much obsolete now, I left it in as I didn't want to break anything just in case. preview_xerte_top looks a bit mangled at the bottom (suspect the merge), but if you copy the javascript functions for the popup from preview_xerte_top into modules/xerte/preview.php then it should work. The div will need adding back in, but the div seems to have gone missing from preview_xerte On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > Using the files from the xerteonlinetoolkits svn in xampp the embedDiv & > Jmol pages no longer work.? The models call functions in preview_xerte_top > which makes the frame to show content in it.? All the functions needed in > preview_xerte_top are there in the file (makePopUp etc.) but when you > preview a project the frames don?t appear and when you view the source none > of the functions from preview_xerte_top ?are shown.? It seems to be using a > different file to put together the preview window that only has one function > in it (openWindow). > > > > This was working on older versions of toolkits and when you viewed the > source everything in preview_xerte_top was shown so the functions could be > called. > > > > Is a different file being used now to make the preview / play windows?? We > can?t work out where this file is if it?s not preview_xerte_top. > > > > Can anyone help? (Pat?!) > > > > Thanks > > Fay > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 22 11:37:37 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:37:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview_xerte_top In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Pat, they're working now and I've uploaded the new version. The functions have been changed slightly too so the frames now scale according to screen size selected from combo box. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 22 March 2012 10:09 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: preview_xerte_top preview_xerte_top is pretty much obsolete now, I left it in as I didn't want to break anything just in case. preview_xerte_top looks a bit mangled at the bottom (suspect the merge), but if you copy the javascript functions for the popup from preview_xerte_top into modules/xerte/preview.php then it should work. The div will need adding back in, but the div seems to have gone missing from preview_xerte On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > Using the files from the xerteonlinetoolkits svn in xampp the embedDiv & > Jmol pages no longer work.? The models call functions in preview_xerte_top > which makes the frame to show content in it.? All the functions needed in > preview_xerte_top are there in the file (makePopUp etc.) but when you > preview a project the frames don't appear and when you view the source none > of the functions from preview_xerte_top ?are shown.? It seems to be using a > different file to put together the preview window that only has one function > in it (openWindow). > > > > This was working on older versions of toolkits and when you viewed the > source everything in preview_xerte_top was shown so the functions could be > called. > > > > Is a different file being used now to make the preview / play windows?? We > can't work out where this file is if it's not preview_xerte_top. > > > > Can anyone help? (Pat?!) > > > > Thanks > > Fay > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Mar 30 15:17:19 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:17:19 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Translations Message-ID: <4F75C06F.6070905@tor.nl> L.S., I've finished the Xerte Translation tool (almost, we still need some options to retrieve the actual files, but they are generated correctly) I've also included the translation of XOT. It's a lot: 2344 sentences (non-unique) for the pages, and 455 for XOT. The website can update the English objects from svn, so the English SVN is always the master. It will create the translated files based on the English files, replacing the translation from the database. It will also update the page templates and create all the necessary zip files for end-users to load the templates in a Xerte or a XOT installation. By the way Pat, there is a duplicat key in the websitecode/php/management/site.inc file (MANAGEMENT_SITE_ERROR_EMAIL is used twice for different things) If you want to have a look, go to http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk, and login as guest/guest If you're interested in working on translation, please let me/us know. Regards, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 15:25:51 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:25:51 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Translations In-Reply-To: <4F75C06F.6070905@tor.nl> References: <4F75C06F.6070905@tor.nl> Message-ID: Bravo! > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:17:19 +0200 > From: reijnders at tor.nl > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Translations > > L.S., > > I've finished the Xerte Translation tool (almost, we still need some > options to retrieve the actual files, but they are generated correctly) > > I've also included the translation of XOT. > > It's a lot: 2344 sentences (non-unique) for the pages, and 455 for XOT. > > The website can update the English objects from svn, so the English SVN > is always the master. It will create the translated files based on the > English files, replacing the translation from the database. It will also > update the page templates and create all the necessary zip files for > end-users to load the templates in a Xerte or a XOT installation. > > By the way Pat, there is a duplicat key in the > websitecode/php/management/site.inc file (MANAGEMENT_SITE_ERROR_EMAIL > is used twice for different things) > > If you want to have a look, go to http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk, and > login as guest/guest > > If you're interested in working on translation, please let me/us know. > > Regards, > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 30 March 2012 15:26 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Translations Bravo! > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:17:19 +0200 > From: reijnders at tor.nl > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Translations > > L.S., > > I've finished the Xerte Translation tool (almost, we still need some > options to retrieve the actual files, but they are generated correctly) > > I've also included the translation of XOT. > > It's a lot: 2344 sentences (non-unique) for the pages, and 455 for XOT. > > The website can update the English objects from svn, so the English SVN > is always the master. It will create the translated files based on the > English files, replacing the translation from the database. It will also > update the page templates and create all the necessary zip files for > end-users to load the templates in a Xerte or a XOT installation. > > By the way Pat, there is a duplicat key in the > websitecode/php/management/site.inc file (MANAGEMENT_SITE_ERROR_EMAIL > is used twice for different things) > > If you want to have a look, go to http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk, and > login as guest/guest > > If you're interested in working on translation, please let me/us know. > > Regards, > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 30 16:03:04 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:03:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 viewer Message-ID: Hello This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started. You can view an work in progress example of it here http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to view in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn't been sorted properly yet) At the moment it's obviously very rough and looks terrible! I've added all the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that works in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu page, menu image etc.). The aim is to get the main interface finalised before we start work on any of the page models so although it is getting info from an xml file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, everything else on each page is currently fixed. The page models are separate html files that are loaded in to the main interface html. A few things have come up as I've been working on this that you might have opinions on: We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of the Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal with this. What do you think about the size of it though - fix it at 800 x 600 or have it automatically resize? Do you think we will still need an option to swap views? In this version there's a main style sheet and you can also add styles to each page model html file if there's any stuff specific to that model. This seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded a custom style sheet for the LO - these override the main one but not the model specific styles. For those who have made custom interfaces for projects in the past is this likely to be a problem? I would have thought the styles in the models will be more general layout things. Thanks Fay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 30 16:11:42 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:11:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B4112D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Great! We want to use this as a way of letting the development take place in full view, so we can surface issues and questions as they arise, and debate the various things we need to debate here. It will greatly aid the project if you can help by chipping in thoughts and observations as we go along - accessibility is an area to be concerned with, and things will be quite different in HTML than in Flash, for obvious reasons, and we need to think about the framework for developers to extend the system with their own templates: so if you have any thought s about how this should work from a developers point of view please pipe up. This is a brilliant start! Have a great weekend, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 30 March 2012 16:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 viewer Hello This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started. You can view an work in progress example of it here http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to view in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn't been sorted properly yet) At the moment it's obviously very rough and looks terrible! I've added all the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that works in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu page, menu image etc.). The aim is to get the main interface finalised before we start work on any of the page models so although it is getting info from an xml file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, everything else on each page is currently fixed. The page models are separate html files that are loaded in to the main interface html. A few things have come up as I've been working on this that you might have opinions on: We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of the Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal with this. What do you think about the size of it though - fix it at 800 x 600 or have it automatically resize? Do you think we will still need an option to swap views? In this version there's a main style sheet and you can also add styles to each page model html file if there's any stuff specific to that model. This seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded a custom style sheet for the LO - these override the main one but not the model specific styles. For those who have made custom interfaces for projects in the past is this likely to be a problem? I would have thought the styles in the models will be more general layout things. Thanks Fay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Mar 30 16:15:20 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:15:20 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B4112D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B4112D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F75CE08.9040804@tor.nl> What Language are you writing this in? And are you going to try to interpret existing LO's? Looks good! Op 30-3-2012 17:11, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Great! > > We want to use this as a way of letting the development take place in > full view, so we can surface issues and questions as they arise, and > debate the various things we need to debate here. It will greatly aid > the project if you can help by chipping in thoughts and observations > as we go along -- accessibility is an area to be concerned with, and > things will be quite different in HTML than in Flash, for obvious > reasons, and we need to think about the framework for developers to > extend the system with their own templates: so if you have any thought > s about how this should work from a developers point of view please > pipe up. > > This is a brilliant start! Have a great weekend, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Fay Cross > *Sent:* 30 March 2012 16:03 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] HTML5 viewer > > Hello > > This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started. > You can view an work in progress example of it here > http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to > view in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn't been sorted properly yet) > > At the moment it's obviously very rough and looks terrible! I've > added all the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure > everything that works in the Flash version works here too (background > image, icon, menu page, menu image etc.). The aim is to get the main > interface finalised before we start work on any of the page models so > although it is getting info from an xml file to load in the correct > page type and give it a title, everything else on each page is > currently fixed. The page models are separate html files that are > loaded in to the main interface html. > > A few things have come up as I've been working on this that you might > have opinions on: > > We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom > of the Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser > setting deal with this. What do you think about the size of it though > -- fix it at 800 x 600 or have it automatically resize? Do you think > we will still need an option to swap views? > > In this version there's a main style sheet and you can also add styles > to each page model html file if there's any stuff specific to that > model. This seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if > you uploaded a custom style sheet for the LO -- these override the > main one but not the model specific styles. For those who have made > custom interfaces for projects in the past is this likely to be a > problem? I would have thought the styles in the models will be more > general layout things. > > Thanks > > Fay > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Mar 30 16:22:46 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:22:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Translations In-Reply-To: <4F75C06F.6070905@tor.nl> References: <4F75C06F.6070905@tor.nl> Message-ID: Do you want to fix the PHP duplicate? Or should I? On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > L.S., > > I've finished the Xerte Translation tool (almost, we still need some options > to retrieve the actual files, but they are generated correctly) > > I've also included the translation of XOT. > > It's a lot: 2344 sentences (non-unique) for the pages, and 455 for XOT. > > The website can update the English objects from svn, so the English SVN is > always the master. It will create the translated files based on the English > files, replacing the translation from the database. It will also update the > page templates and create all the necessary zip files for end-users to load > the templates in a Xerte or a XOT installation. > > By the way Pat, there is a duplicat key in the > websitecode/php/management/site.inc ?file (MANAGEMENT_SITE_ERROR_EMAIL is > used twice for different things) > > If you want to have a look, go to http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk, and login > as guest/guest > > If you're interested in working on ?translation, please let me/us know. > > Regards, > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Mar 30 16:24:16 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:24:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer In-Reply-To: <4F75CE08.9040804@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B4112D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F75CE08.9040804@tor.nl> Message-ID: So you went with Jquery then? Also, liking the comments, brings back happy memories of finding things like // no idea how this works in code comments On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > What Language are you writing this in? And are you going to try to interpret > existing LO's? > > Looks good! > > Op 30-3-2012 17:11, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Great! > > > > We want to use this as a way of letting the development take place in full > view, so we can surface issues and questions as they arise, and debate the > various things we need to debate here. It will greatly aid the project if > you can help by chipping in thoughts and observations as we go along ? > accessibility is an area to be concerned with, and things will be quite > different in HTML than in Flash, for obvious reasons, and we need to think > about the framework for developers to extend the system with their own > templates: so if you have any thought s about how this should work from a > developers point of view please pipe up. > > > > This is a brilliant start! Have a great weekend, > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross > Sent: 30 March 2012 16:03 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 viewer > > > > Hello > > > > This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started.? You can > view an work in progress example of it here > http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to view > in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn?t been sorted properly yet) > > > > At the moment it?s obviously very rough and looks terrible!? I?ve added all > the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that works > in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu page, menu > image etc.).? The aim is to get the main interface finalised before we start > work on any of the page models so although it is getting info from an xml > file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, everything else > on each page is currently fixed.? The page models are separate html files > that are loaded in to the main interface html. > > > > A few things have come up as I?ve been working on this that you might have > opinions on: > > > > We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of the > Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal with > this.? What do you think about the size of it though ? fix it at 800 x 600 > or have it automatically resize?? Do you think we will still need an option > to swap views? > > > > In this version there?s a main style sheet and you can also add styles to > each page model html file if there?s any stuff specific to that model.? This > seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded a > custom style sheet for the LO ? these override the main one but not the > model specific styles.? For those who have made custom interfaces for > projects in the past is this likely to be a problem?? I would have thought > the styles in the models will be more general layout things. > > > > > > Thanks > > Fay > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 30 16:24:25 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:24:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer In-Reply-To: <4F75CE08.9040804@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B4112D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F75CE08.9040804@tor.nl> Message-ID: It uses jQuery. The aim is that you will be able to view LOs made for the Flash viewer in the html5 version. The aim is initially to develop the interface and the some of the basic page types so even if all the pages aren't available immediately in the html version a range of them will be. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 30 March 2012 16:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer What Language are you writing this in? And are you going to try to interpret existing LO's? Looks good! Op 30-3-2012 17:11, Julian Tenney schreef: Great! We want to use this as a way of letting the development take place in full view, so we can surface issues and questions as they arise, and debate the various things we need to debate here. It will greatly aid the project if you can help by chipping in thoughts and observations as we go along - accessibility is an area to be concerned with, and things will be quite different in HTML than in Flash, for obvious reasons, and we need to think about the framework for developers to extend the system with their own templates: so if you have any thought s about how this should work from a developers point of view please pipe up. This is a brilliant start! Have a great weekend, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 30 March 2012 16:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 viewer Hello This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started. You can view an work in progress example of it here http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to view in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn't been sorted properly yet) At the moment it's obviously very rough and looks terrible! I've added all the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that works in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu page, menu image etc.). The aim is to get the main interface finalised before we start work on any of the page models so although it is getting info from an xml file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, everything else on each page is currently fixed. The page models are separate html files that are loaded in to the main interface html. A few things have come up as I've been working on this that you might have opinions on: We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of the Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal with this. What do you think about the size of it though - fix it at 800 x 600 or have it automatically resize? Do you think we will still need an option to swap views? In this version there's a main style sheet and you can also add styles to each page model html file if there's any stuff specific to that model. This seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded a custom style sheet for the LO - these override the main one but not the model specific styles. For those who have made custom interfaces for projects in the past is this likely to be a problem? I would have thought the styles in the models will be more general layout things. 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Also, liking the comments, brings back happy memories of finding things like // no idea how this works in code comments On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > What Language are you writing this in? And are you going to try to interpret > existing LO's? > > Looks good! > > Op 30-3-2012 17:11, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Great! > > > > We want to use this as a way of letting the development take place in full > view, so we can surface issues and questions as they arise, and debate the > various things we need to debate here. It will greatly aid the project if > you can help by chipping in thoughts and observations as we go along - > accessibility is an area to be concerned with, and things will be quite > different in HTML than in Flash, for obvious reasons, and we need to think > about the framework for developers to extend the system with their own > templates: so if you have any thought s about how this should work from a > developers point of view please pipe up. > > > > This is a brilliant start! Have a great weekend, > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross > Sent: 30 March 2012 16:03 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 viewer > > > > Hello > > > > This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started.? You can > view an work in progress example of it here > http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to view > in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn't been sorted properly yet) > > > > At the moment it's obviously very rough and looks terrible!? I've added all > the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that works > in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu page, menu > image etc.).? The aim is to get the main interface finalised before we start > work on any of the page models so although it is getting info from an xml > file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, everything else > on each page is currently fixed.? The page models are separate html files > that are loaded in to the main interface html. > > > > A few things have come up as I've been working on this that you might have > opinions on: > > > > We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of the > Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal with > this.? What do you think about the size of it though - fix it at 800 x 600 > or have it automatically resize?? Do you think we will still need an option > to swap views? > > > > In this version there's a main style sheet and you can also add styles to > each page model html file if there's any stuff specific to that model.? This > seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded a > custom style sheet for the LO - these override the main one but not the > model specific styles.? For those who have made custom interfaces for > projects in the past is this likely to be a problem?? I would have thought > the styles in the models will be more general layout things. > > > > > > Thanks > > Fay > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Mar 30 16:26:30 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:26:30 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Translations In-Reply-To: References: <4F75C06F.6070905@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4F75D0A6.7090904@tor.nl> Can you, than I don't (yet) need to figure out where ad how that string is used.... :-) Op 30-3-2012 17:22, Pat Lockley schreef: > Do you want to fix the PHP duplicate? Or should I? > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> L.S., >> >> I've finished the Xerte Translation tool (almost, we still need some options >> to retrieve the actual files, but they are generated correctly) >> >> I've also included the translation of XOT. >> >> It's a lot: 2344 sentences (non-unique) for the pages, and 455 for XOT. >> >> The website can update the English objects from svn, so the English SVN is >> always the master. It will create the translated files based on the English >> files, replacing the translation from the database. It will also update the >> page templates and create all the necessary zip files for end-users to load >> the templates in a Xerte or a XOT installation. >> >> By the way Pat, there is a duplicat key in the >> websitecode/php/management/site.inc file (MANAGEMENT_SITE_ERROR_EMAIL is >> used twice for different things) >> >> If you want to have a look, go to http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk, and login >> as guest/guest >> >> If you're interested in working on translation, please let me/us know. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 16:29:17 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:29:17 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B4112D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <4F75CE08.9040804@tor.nl>, Message-ID: My favourite was finding: <--! users are evil --> on line 6578 of some monster .asp page > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:24:16 +0100 > From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer > > So you went with Jquery then? > > Also, liking the comments, brings back happy memories of finding things like > > // no idea how this works > > in code comments > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > What Language are you writing this in? And are you going to try to interpret > > existing LO's? > > > > Looks good! > > > > Op 30-3-2012 17:11, Julian Tenney schreef: > > > > Great! > > > > > > > > We want to use this as a way of letting the development take place in full > > view, so we can surface issues and questions as they arise, and debate the > > various things we need to debate here. It will greatly aid the project if > > you can help by chipping in thoughts and observations as we go along ? > > accessibility is an area to be concerned with, and things will be quite > > different in HTML than in Flash, for obvious reasons, and we need to think > > about the framework for developers to extend the system with their own > > templates: so if you have any thought s about how this should work from a > > developers point of view please pipe up. > > > > > > > > This is a brilliant start! Have a great weekend, > > > > > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross > > Sent: 30 March 2012 16:03 > > To: For Xerte technical developers > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 viewer > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started. You can > > view an work in progress example of it here > > http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to view > > in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn?t been sorted properly yet) > > > > > > > > At the moment it?s obviously very rough and looks terrible! I?ve added all > > the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that works > > in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu page, menu > > image etc.). The aim is to get the main interface finalised before we start > > work on any of the page models so although it is getting info from an xml > > file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, everything else > > on each page is currently fixed. The page models are separate html files > > that are loaded in to the main interface html. > > > > > > > > A few things have come up as I?ve been working on this that you might have > > opinions on: > > > > > > > > We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of the > > Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal with > > this. What do you think about the size of it though ? fix it at 800 x 600 > > or have it automatically resize? Do you think we will still need an option > > to swap views? > > > > > > > > In this version there?s a main style sheet and you can also add styles to > > each page model html file if there?s any stuff specific to that model. This > > seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded a > > custom style sheet for the LO ? these override the main one but not the > > model specific styles. For those who have made custom interfaces for > > projects in the past is this likely to be a problem? I would have thought > > the styles in the models will be more general layout things. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Fay > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > > attachment. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Mar 30 16:32:47 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:32:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B4112D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F75CE08.9040804@tor.nl> Message-ID: Some one once went through some apple code and found a lot of F Microsoft comments. Re jquery - the first bit I assume is loading the XML dynamically? So this will mean a few choices later on (re hard writing files - running this locally?) On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > My favourite was finding: > > <--! users are evil --> > > on line 6578 of some monster .asp page > > >> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:24:16 +0100 >> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer >> >> So you went with Jquery then? >> >> Also, liking the comments, brings back happy memories of finding things >> like >> >> // no idea how this works >> >> in code comments >> >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> > What Language are you writing this in? And are you going to try to >> > interpret >> > existing LO's? >> > >> > Looks good! >> > >> > Op 30-3-2012 17:11, Julian Tenney schreef: >> > >> > Great! >> > >> > >> > >> > We want to use this as a way of letting the development take place in >> > full >> > view, so we can surface issues and questions as they arise, and debate >> > the >> > various things we need to debate here. It will greatly aid the project >> > if >> > you can help by chipping in thoughts and observations as we go along ? >> > accessibility is an area to be concerned with, and things will be quite >> > different in HTML than in Flash, for obvious reasons, and we need to >> > think >> > about the framework for developers to extend the system with their own >> > templates: so if you have any thought s about how this should work from >> > a >> > developers point of view please pipe up. >> > >> > >> > >> > This is a brilliant start! Have a great weekend, >> > >> > >> > >> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross >> > Sent: 30 March 2012 16:03 >> > To: For Xerte technical developers >> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 viewer >> > >> > >> > >> > Hello >> > >> > >> > >> > This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started.? You >> > can >> > view an work in progress example of it here >> > http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to >> > view >> > in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn?t been sorted properly yet) >> > >> > >> > >> > At the moment it?s obviously very rough and looks terrible!? I?ve added >> > all >> > the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that >> > works >> > in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu page, >> > menu >> > image etc.).? The aim is to get the main interface finalised before we >> > start >> > work on any of the page models so although it is getting info from an >> > xml >> > file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, everything >> > else >> > on each page is currently fixed.? The page models are separate html >> > files >> > that are loaded in to the main interface html. >> > >> > >> > >> > A few things have come up as I?ve been working on this that you might >> > have >> > opinions on: >> > >> > >> > >> > We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of >> > the >> > Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal >> > with >> > this.? What do you think about the size of it though ? fix it at 800 x >> > 600 >> > or have it automatically resize?? Do you think we will still need an >> > option >> > to swap views? >> > >> > >> > >> > In this version there?s a main style sheet and you can also add styles >> > to >> > each page model html file if there?s any stuff specific to that model. >> > This >> > seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded a >> > custom style sheet for the LO ? these override the main one but not the >> > model specific styles.? For those who have made custom interfaces for >> > projects in the past is this likely to be a problem?? I would have >> > thought >> > the styles in the models will be more general layout things. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Fay >> > >> > >> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> > and >> > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >> > in >> > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >> > not >> > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> > any >> > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >> > do >> > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> > >> > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> > attachment >> > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> > system: >> > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Mar 30 17:43:10 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:43:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Translations In-Reply-To: <4F75D0A6.7090904@tor.nl> References: <4F75C06F.6070905@tor.nl> <4F75D0A6.7090904@tor.nl> Message-ID: ok management.php was a big bag of messed up, and it's now fixed modded site.inc and site.php to remove the duplicate - I am not sure now if I have removed some functionality but I can't remember what it did anyways :S On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Can you, than I don't (yet) need to figure out where ad how that string is > used.... :-) > > Op 30-3-2012 17:22, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> Do you want to fix the PHP duplicate? Or should I? >> >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>> >>> L.S., >>> >>> I've finished the Xerte Translation tool (almost, we still need some >>> options >>> to retrieve the actual files, but they are generated correctly) >>> >>> I've also included the translation of XOT. >>> >>> It's a lot: 2344 sentences (non-unique) for the pages, and 455 for XOT. >>> >>> The website can update the English objects from svn, so the English SVN >>> is >>> always the master. It will create the translated files based on the >>> English >>> files, replacing the translation from the database. It will also update >>> the >>> page templates and create all the necessary zip files for end-users to >>> load >>> the templates in a Xerte or a XOT installation. >>> >>> By the way Pat, there is a duplicat key in the >>> websitecode/php/management/site.inc ?file (MANAGEMENT_SITE_ERROR_EMAIL is >>> used twice for different things) >>> >>> If you want to have a look, go to http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk, and >>> login >>> as guest/guest >>> >>> If you're interested in working on ?translation, please let me/us know. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Fri Mar 30 17:44:21 2012 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (Thomas Rochford) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:44:21 -0700 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer Message-ID: <6657346820809196857@unknownmsgid> Hi Fay, On a bus travelling back from a Vedic wedding in Walsall so will keep it short as I don't have FF, However it looks fine on WP7 with IE. My vote is definitely to keep the utilities off-screen and maximise the learning space. Probably 800x600 is a good default, however. Kindest regards, Thomas Sent from my Windows Phone ------------------------------ From: Fay Cross Sent: 30/03/2012 16:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 viewer Hello This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started. You can view an work in progress example of it here http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to view in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn?t been sorted properly yet) At the moment it?s obviously very rough and looks terrible! I?ve added all the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that works in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu page, menu image etc.). The aim is to get the main interface finalised before we start work on any of the page models so although it is getting info from an xml file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, everything else on each page is currently fixed. The page models are separate html files that are loaded in to the main interface html. A few things have come up as I?ve been working on this that you might have opinions on: We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of the Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal with this. What do you think about the size of it though ? fix it at 800 x 600 or have it automatically resize? Do you think we will still need an option to swap views? In this version there?s a main style sheet and you can also add styles to each page model html file if there?s any stuff specific to that model. This seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded a custom style sheet for the LO ? these override the main one but not the model specific styles. For those who have made custom interfaces for projects in the past is this likely to be a problem? I would have thought the styles in the models will be more general layout things. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 30 18:19:02 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:19:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B4112D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F75CE08.9040804@tor.nl> , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC64A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> i have my own tale of woe, less said about that the better, ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross [Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 30 March 2012 16:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer Oops, did I leave those in (blushing) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 30 March 2012 16:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer So you went with Jquery then? Also, liking the comments, brings back happy memories of finding things like // no idea how this works in code comments On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > What Language are you writing this in? And are you going to try to interpret > existing LO's? > > Looks good! > > Op 30-3-2012 17:11, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Great! > > > > We want to use this as a way of letting the development take place in full > view, so we can surface issues and questions as they arise, and debate the > various things we need to debate here. It will greatly aid the project if > you can help by chipping in thoughts and observations as we go along - > accessibility is an area to be concerned with, and things will be quite > different in HTML than in Flash, for obvious reasons, and we need to think > about the framework for developers to extend the system with their own > templates: so if you have any thought s about how this should work from a > developers point of view please pipe up. > > > > This is a brilliant start! Have a great weekend, > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross > Sent: 30 March 2012 16:03 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 viewer > > > > Hello > > > > This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started. You can > view an work in progress example of it here > http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to view > in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn't been sorted properly yet) > > > > At the moment it's obviously very rough and looks terrible! I've added all > the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that works > in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu page, menu > image etc.). The aim is to get the main interface finalised before we start > work on any of the page models so although it is getting info from an xml > file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, everything else > on each page is currently fixed. The page models are separate html files > that are loaded in to the main interface html. > > > > A few things have come up as I've been working on this that you might have > opinions on: > > > > We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of the > Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal with > this. What do you think about the size of it though - fix it at 800 x 600 > or have it automatically resize? Do you think we will still need an option > to swap views? > > > > In this version there's a main style sheet and you can also add styles to > each page model html file if there's any stuff specific to that model. This > seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded a > custom style sheet for the LO - these override the main one but not the > model specific styles. For those who have made custom interfaces for > projects in the past is this likely to be a problem? I would have thought > the styles in the models will be more general layout things. > > > > > > Thanks > > Fay > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Mar 31 11:50:29 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:50:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's looking good. I don't have Firefox installed on my PC at present, but I viewed it in Opera and Explorer 8 and the two versions both looked the same so I guess it must be doing what it is supposed to do :-) With respect to screen size 800 by 600 is a good default, but it can be useful to be able to use larger sizes particularly if you are including screen captures to demonstrate an application. I don't know if it is worth considering this at the point when you are just starting to create your models, but are you sizing things absolutely or relatively? In the xerte rlm files many of the pages use absolute values based on the default screen sizes e.g. assuming the default screen size of 800 x 600 a panel and text box might have width options for small, medium and large. These values then equate to say 200, 400 and 600. They could be set to screenWidth / 4, screenWidth / 2 etc. which would then scale automatically if a new screen width was set for the project. Just a thought. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 March 2012 16:03, Fay Cross wrote: > Hello > > > > This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started. You > can view an work in progress example of it here > http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to > view in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn?t been sorted properly yet) > > > > At the moment it?s obviously very rough and looks terrible! I?ve added > all the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that > works in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu > page, menu image etc.). The aim is to get the main interface finalised > before we start work on any of the page models so although it is getting > info from an xml file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, > everything else on each page is currently fixed. The page models are > separate html files that are loaded in to the main interface html. > > > > A few things have come up as I?ve been working on this that you might have > opinions on: > > > > We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of > the Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal > with this. What do you think about the size of it though ? fix it at 800 x > 600 or have it automatically resize? Do you think we will still need an > option to swap views? > > > > In this version there?s a main style sheet and you can also add styles to > each page model html file if there?s any stuff specific to that model. > This seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded > a custom style sheet for the LO ? these override the main one but not the > model specific styles. For those who have made custom interfaces for > projects in the past is this likely to be a problem? I would have thought > the styles in the models will be more general layout things. > > > > > > Thanks > > Fay > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Sat Mar 31 12:20:05 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:20:05 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xot: which version? In-Reply-To: <496622545-1331362644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1256748140-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> References: <496622545-1331362644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1256748140-@b14.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <4F76E865.9020309@tor.nl> Jos?, May I ask you to have a look at xertetrans.xerte.org.uk? (Login with guest/guest, you can't change anything, but you can have a look around. Everything works except saving the translation.). This is a tool that is meant for translation of the upcoming 1.8/2.18 release of XOT/Xerte. It has two separate tools, one to translate the Pages of the page templates, and one to translate all the texts used in the Xerte Online Toolkits user interface. If you're interested or know someone who could help with the translation into Spanish I would be very happy to give you a login for Spanish. The whole purpose of this tool is to keep the translation maintainable, so that if new items are added to the system, it is easy to update the translation. Let me know if you're able to help out. Thanks! Tom Op 10-3-2012 7:57, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda schreef: > Hi guys. > > I've seen a lot of work last days with XOT and trunk. > > Next April, I'm going to offer a workshop about XOT integrated with Moodle 1.9 and 2.x. > > Which version do I have to download? > > 1.7 from zip file at Nottingham webpage? > > Trunk version ? > > 1.8 version? > > During the workkshop I have to show: > > 1. How to integrate Moodle and XOT. > > 2. Create LO from XOT loaded from Moodle, using all kind of activities. > > Thanks for the advice. > > Jos?. > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Sat Mar 31 13:19:30 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:19:30 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Page oriented Xwd's Message-ID: <4F76F652.6050400@tor.nl> Jonathan, I had a closer look at the new model files, and wanted to congratulate you with the huge effort you pulled off! Now we have a maintanable extensible system and I am looking forward to using all this to bring new things to Xerte: - Scorm tracking - Scorm using packages served by XOT - A Huge international community... ;-)) Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Mar 31 16:39:16 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:39:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Page oriented Xwd's In-Reply-To: <4F76F652.6050400@tor.nl> References: <4F76F652.6050400@tor.nl> Message-ID: Many thanks Tom. Sorry to be a nuisance but I have just committed some changes to the menu connector page which add one extra field to the xwd form. I am still making changes to the default rlo file to try to keep up with changes that appear to be in progress by the team at Nottingham. Some issues outstanding for the desktop environment are the ability to populate the TOC and the Page Title and the selection of language. I could add a couple of lines to every model that would solve the display of the page title, however this would not resolve how to populate the TOC. If however the xwd handling in the appropriate swf was to take the name property value from the xml and copy it to the associated page icon's name and title properties then this would solve both issues as the display of the TOC and page Title would just function as it does now. I have added a language parameter to the pagetemplate.xwd file that I am proposing to be used with the default rlo file. Whether this can be used to select the language for the interface and xwds I don't know. Kind regards Johnathan On 31 March 2012 13:19, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Jonathan, > > I had a closer look at the new model files, and wanted to congratulate you > with the huge effort you pulled off! Now we have a maintanable extensible > system and I am looking forward to using all this to bring new things to > Xerte: > > - Scorm tracking > - Scorm using packages served by XOT > - A Huge international community... ;-)) > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Mar 31 16:58:22 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:58:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Translations In-Reply-To: <4F75C06F.6070905@tor.nl> References: <4F75C06F.6070905@tor.nl> Message-ID: Tom, you have done a hell of a lot of good work on the translation side, but I would also like to pay tribute to the support that you and Julian have given me in making changes to the underlying swf files to make the integration of the new individual page templates work as well as it does. Ever since I started the page wizards off I dreamed of them becoming part of the main release and now with the release of 2.18 and the support for individual page templates their functionality will be fully integrated into Xerte. Thank you Johnathan On 30 March 2012 15:17, Tom Reijnders wrote: > L.S., > > I've finished the Xerte Translation tool (almost, we still need some > options to retrieve the actual files, but they are generated correctly) > > I've also included the translation of XOT. > > It's a lot: 2344 sentences (non-unique) for the pages, and 455 for XOT. > > The website can update the English objects from svn, so the English SVN is > always the master. It will create the translated files based on the English > files, replacing the translation from the database. It will also update the > page templates and create all the necessary zip files for end-users to load > the templates in a Xerte or a XOT installation. > > By the way Pat, there is a duplicat key in the > websitecode/php/management/site.inc file (MANAGEMENT_SITE_ERROR_EMAIL is > used twice for different things) > > If you want to have a look, go to http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk, and > login as guest/guest > > If you're interested in working on translation, please let me/us know. > > Regards, > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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