[Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff

Tom Reijnders reijnders at tor.nl
Tue Jun 26 19:04:16 BST 2012


Johnathan,

Thank you. A couple of remarks:

The language files (not only the nl-NL, but all language files) are 
generated by xertrans.xerte.org.uk from the en-GB files. So I'd rather 
not have them in svn as well.

So:
1. you can delete the nl-nl folder as well.
2. you can delete the runtime nl_NL/nl-NL folder too.
3. I hope the new runtime en-GB is that and not en_GB

Which one of the models folders will be leading?

Tom



Op 26-6-2012 19:14, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
> I have completed most of the tidying up of the runtime and pageWizards 
> folders.
>
> As mentioned in an earlier post the nl-nl folder in pageWizards 
> appears to be out of date when compared to the nl-nl folder in the 
> desktop beta, so the new runtime nl_NL folder contains files from the 
> desktop beta. However temporarily I have left the pageWizards nl-nl 
> file intact just in case there is anything in there that Tom needs.
>
> The only current duplication with respect to the Xerte svn is the 
> duplication of model files in
>
> svn / runtime/pages/models
>
> and
>
> svn / templates / pageTemplates / models
>
> Note: It will be possible in the next release to generate the 
> pageTemplates project from the model files without the need to package 
> an xtp file so the model files in runtime / pages / models will be the 
> definitive set of model files. If there is a need to modify the files 
> in the pageTemplates / models folders prior to the release of the next 
> version then any changes will need to be replicated appropriately in 
> the runtime / pages / models equivalent file.
>
> You are all probably fully aware of this but there is no harm in 
> re-stating this :-)
> No one wants things to get out of synch at this late stage of the 
> proceedings.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> The pageTemplates / models remain in the form that lacks [projPI] so 
> if these files
>
>
>
> On 26 June 2012 17:23, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Might as well be consistent.
>
>     *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>     [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of
>     *Kemp Johnathan
>     *Sent:* 26 June 2012 17:04
>
>
>     *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>     *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>     I'll start tidying up the svn shortly.
>
>     "Hmmm, please make it en-GB. The fact that you have en-gb, is
>     because you had an old folder from an old install, and for all
>     purposes, for Windows en-GB and en-gb is the same, so the new
>     installer will NOT rename it."
>
>      Just to be clear on upper and lower case, does the above mean I
>     need to rename the folders as below?
>
>     runtime/pages/wizards/
>
>     en-gb to en-GB
>
>     nl-nl to nl-NL
>
>     Kind regards
>
>     Johnathan
>
>     On 26 June 2012 15:55, Julian Tenney
>     <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Hang on, scrambled my paths there, but no matter. I'll let
>     Jonathan delete once he's got everything out of there he needs to.
>
>     Yes, let's delete the /pageWizards folder. Definitive one is
>     runtime/pages/models. They all look up to date to me. Jonathan,
>     can you delete /pageWizards when you're ready?
>
>     Nice one.
>
>     *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>     [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of
>     *Julian Tenney
>     *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:49
>
>
>     *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>     *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>     > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd
>     files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any
>     future changes are now made?
>
>     I'm treating runtime/pages/models as the definitive set. I tend to
>     develop in \templates\pageTemplates, copying models into there
>     from /runtime/pages/models, then copying them back / into toolkits
>     etc. When we do a build we also need to zip up the xtps with the
>     new models in.
>
>     *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>     [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>     <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of
>     *Kemp Johnathan
>     *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:43
>     *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>     *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>     I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place as I
>     did not want to cause any issues with anything you might be doing Tom.
>
>      "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the
>     files from a different place now."
>
>     Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd
>     files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any
>     future changes are now made?
>
>     Kind regards
>
>     Johnathan
>
>     On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl
>     <mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>> wrote:
>
>     I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk
>     <http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk> website code. It depends on where
>     the files are.
>     I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files
>     from a different place now.
>     I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible.
>
>     Tom
>
>     Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
>         Sounds good, yes.
>
>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf
>         Of *Kemp Johnathan
>         *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:41
>         *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>         At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office
>         format and in pdf.
>
>         This is so that an editable version is available for
>         translation or updating.
>
>         So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open
>         office source files kept elsewhere?
>
>         Kind regards
>
>         Johnathan
>
>         On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney
>         <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>         Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in
>         /runtime, possibly even a link to it on the help menu,
>
>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>         Of *Kemp Johnathan
>         *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36
>
>
>         *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>         Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them /
>         add one ?
>
>         We need some documentation here.
>
>         I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page
>         Projects to the
>
>         Page Wizards / supporting documents
>
>         section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this
>         stuff at present so I guess its current location is as good as
>         anywhere for now.
>
>         Kind regards
>
>         Johnathan
>
>         On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney
>         <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>         Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe,
>         why don't I see all the pages on the menu?
>
>         Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them /
>         add one ?
>
>         We need some documentation here.
>
>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>         Of *Dave Burnett
>         *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50
>
>
>         *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
>         >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and
>         do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview
>         menu option stops working - no idea why.
>
>         Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview
>         windows not being initialized?
>
>         I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've
>         already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again".
>
>         I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I
>         do want executed each time* inside that condition.
>
>         So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to
>         function?
>
>         Can we display the state of those conditions while we run
>         through multiple View/Preview cycles?
>
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>         Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100
>         From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>         <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>
>         To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>         Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>         I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn
>         runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation
>         and the problem does not appear to be fixed.
>
>         However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised.
>
>         Open Xerte
>
>         Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that
>         had been added to the default project)
>
>         Open the wizard for the plain text page
>
>         In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result -
>         the preview works)
>
>         Close the preview.
>
>         Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works)
>
>         Close the page wizard form.
>
>         Open the page wizard form once more.
>
>         Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take
>         place)
>
>         Use the forms play button instead and preview will work.
>
>         It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and
>         do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview
>         menu option stops working - no idea why.
>
>         Kind regards
>
>         Johnathan
>
>         On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney
>         <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>         It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search
>         for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in...
>
>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>         Of *Kemp Johnathan
>         *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28
>         *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>         Re: the preview link
>
>         Which file would this relate to editor.swf?
>
>         I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's
>         site.
>
>         If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute
>         the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then
>         test again.
>
>         Kind regards
>
>         Johnathan
>
>         On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney
>         <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>         <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just
>         looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new
>         pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor
>         library so it might just need rebuilding?
>
>         Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see
>         anything wrong with this???
>
>         viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) {
>
>                if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label ==
>         languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) {
>
>                       preview();
>
>                }
>
>         }
>
>         So not sure if this I still an issue?
>
>         Last few things -- let's get this finished now,
>
>         J
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