[Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff

[Dave Burnett]

I think this may be particular to Johnathan.
I've used UltraEdit using the sequence described to solve that type of issue.It sounds like there is a non-ASCII character being created somewhere.What are you using to save the copy?What are it's default save settings?Straight ASCII?

From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:57:20 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff

> I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also hidden stuff in each file as well?I don’t know, but I know that copying things with simple copy / paste ends up with problems, because the info in the svn folders get’s all screwed up. So I always export anything, add the files as new files and then delete the old files. Try deleting the files, commit, get rid of the errors and get green ticks everywhere again, then export the files you want to copy, and then add them as new files and commit again. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 22 June 2012 15:55
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff At present the model files that are showing ! against them are copies of the model files in the pageWizards / models section of the svn. I created a folder outside of my copy of the svn and then copied the files from the svn into the folder (without the .svn folder).I then reverted the files in the svn to get back to a point with no !Then I updated to get the latest version and compared the updated files to the copy I had taken. The latest files do not contain the changes I committed. I compared them to my copies using winmerge portable. So I copied and pasted (plain old windows version of copy and paste) my back up copies of the files into the svn and the ! reappeared. Then I tried to commit the changes and a message displayed that there were no changes to commit. I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also hidden stuff in each file as well? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 15:24, Dave Burnett <d_b_burnett at hotmail.com> wrote: How about: Open files in question, copy content to notepad and save new isolated file outside svn folders. Revert files until rid of ! Update from svn to get latest. If you use UltraEdit instead of NotePad (and everyone should) you can do File Compare to see what's different between latest and isolated versions.  From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:56 +0100
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuffGetting a new copy of the svn would fix it, yes, but you’d lose your changes. I’ve found the !s hard to get rid of after some seemingly perfectly legitimate operations have produced them… always try and sort them out before doing anything else, but I’m not deep into Tortoise, so I don’t know how best to approach it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 22 June 2012 15:15
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I did an update before I made any changes. I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around.  According to the svn help the ! means The Modified overlay represents the modified state, where you have made local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the repository have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, where a file has been deleted and replaced by another different file with the same name.  If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste. The tortoise svn help saysYou can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to the clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then use TortoiseSVN → Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or move those items to the new working copy location. "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you’re gonna get in a mess."  I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new local copy. Would that not sort it out? Kind regards Johnathan   On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you’re gonna get in a mess. Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the repository (this is important). Always do an update before any commits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 22 June 2012 14:07
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of the xerte svn  I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion this can present. There are a few points to note. 1.      Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than packaged in an xtp file.2.      the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"?3.      The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta.4.      It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl5.      My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that needs resolving?Kind regards Johnathan    On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as deleted. I think you can ;’move’ stuff within the repo though – That software is pretty clever, I’d be amazed they hadn’t thought of stuff like this… One thing, as a commiter I’m not sure if you can change the project structure, so let me know if you can’t add / remove folders. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp JohnathanSent: 22 June 2012 12:01To: For Xerte technical developersSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff OK will do. With respect to how turtle svn works If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards /  and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the  xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder  into the new en-gb folder , will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a new location? Kind regards Johnathan  On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and have a developer’s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp JohnathanSent: 22 June 2012 11:15To: For Xerte technical developersSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff The pages only display once you have created a pages project. A word of warning. You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location of the latest rlm and xwd files. The latest files are still in  Xerte svn / pageWizards / modelsXerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure Xerte / pages / modelsXerte / pages / wizards / en-gb The runtime folder has the structure Xerte svn / runtime / pages / modelsXerte svn / runtime / wizards / en This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems1.      The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the release version expectations2.      Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version.I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set of files the better.  During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the definitive source of all files.  It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the svn that this would be temporary. I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst development is still taking place. " We need some documentation here."  I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have been responsible for. I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. Kind regards Johnathan  On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don’t I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave BurnettSent: 21 June 2012 17:50To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why.  Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again".I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function?Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles?  Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.comTo: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuffI have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open XerteOpen a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project)Open the wizard for the plain text pageIn the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works)Close the preview.Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works)Close the page wizard form.Open the page wizard form once more.Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place)Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan   On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:It’s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for ‘viewMenu’, I think that’ll drop you right in… From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp JohnathanSent: 21 June 2012 14:28To: For Xerte technical developersSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan   On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can’t see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) {       if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) {              preview();       }} So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things – let’s get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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