From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Jun 7 09:11:35 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:11:35 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Is the list working? It's awfully quiet.... Message-ID: <4FD06237.30501@tor.nl> -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Jun 7 12:13:52 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:13:52 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Is the list working? It's awfully quiet.... In-Reply-To: <4FD06237.30501@tor.nl> References: <4FD06237.30501@tor.nl> Message-ID: OK here. > Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:11:35 +0200 > From: reijnders at tor.nl > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Is the list working? It's awfully quiet.... > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Jun 7 12:20:23 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:20:23 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Is the list working? It's awfully quiet.... In-Reply-To: <030FE175-3681-4338-9C3D-E6DD14AA5C29@palepurple.co.uk> References: <4FD06237.30501@tor.nl> <030FE175-3681-4338-9C3D-E6DD14AA5C29@palepurple.co.uk> Message-ID: <4FD08E77.10000@tor.nl> I am only receiving this now... at 13:10, so that's why I wondered. But, good to see, things work like expected... :-) Op 7-6-2012 13:15, David Goodwin schreef: > On 7 Jun 2012, at 09:11, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > The UK had Monday/Tuesday off as a public / bank holiday; this may be to blame? > > David. > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Jun 7 16:59:38 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:59:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Transcript Tool - some progress and some comments Message-ID: I have now had a little time to play with the transcript tool that Fay kindly made available the other week. There are a few issues that I have run in to. 1. The first flv file I tried was the "breakingUpChristmas.flv" file that I originally obtained from Nottingham, I think in a demonstration project. When I loaded this in the caption entry section expanded horizontally to fill the whole window making it impossible to access any of the video related buttons. However other flvs including an old one I had that I think was orginally generated in camstudio worked OK. I also tested an FLV generated using the latest version of camstudio which was converted to flv using XMedia Recode 3.0.8.1 2. If you make the mistake of changing the video play mode to full screen and then reduce it back to its original size then the buttons disappear on the transcript tool. 3. The Timed Transcript window does not allow the loading of transcript files. 4. The package feature is not yet enabled. 5. I had some inconsistencies when setting the position of captions to subtitle top or subtitle bottom, sometimes they failed to show up - I have not done enough testing to identify if this was specific to a particular flv file. It would be nice to have the option to change the font size and typeface of the captions. Is it intended that once created a caption file could be subsequently loaded into the Timed Transcript window and then edited in that window? If so is any plan to include any error checking of the file once it has been edited? This is a great tool and I forward to when the packaging element will be available (any idea when :-) Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 12 11:14:00 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:14:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079D1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079D1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think the models and individual xwd files should be good to go - there was the issue of the icons for a few pages but I think this has been fixed now. I will download the latest beta desktop Xerte-beta.exe tomorrow and give it a quick once over to check the above out. The biggest single issue remaining for the desk top as far as I was concerned was the populating of the display of the page title in the top left corner of the project window and the populating of the page titles in the TOC. I had a fix for the first issue but it will require adding a few lines to every model file, however it would not fix the TOC. If it were possible to update the page Icons title property on closing the page's xwd form i.e. by writing the "name" value from the xml data to the page icon's title property then this would resolve both problems. I think Tom did take a look at this but I don't know if he was able to resolve the issue. Kind regards Johnathan On 12 June 2012 10:55, Julian Tenney wrote: > Hiya, > > > > I?m back from leave now: there?s only so much balmy summer weather I can > cope with. > > > > We need to figure out what is outstanding in order to get this release > sorted. I know we are getting close, but how close are we? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Jun 12 11:58:49 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:58:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079D1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079D1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004801cd488a$5985f390$0c91dab0$@co.uk> The Google doc is up to date and the bugs sheet only shows two issues now... The first issue on row 2 I think is fixed but perhaps Jonathan can confirm The second on row 3 is about the JMOL page - does that still not work for you? e.g. page 18 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 That works for me fine. The main things I'm aware of possibly still outstanding: 1. The discussion between mainly David and Tom about further development of the Authentication code especially during setup - I think Tom was working on that 2. Including the xwd builder functionality in XOT - again I think Tom was finishing that 3. Once the above are done I hope to test upgrading earlier installs and highlight any issues. I would think this is what most will want to do so once tested will need to be documented. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 June 2012 10:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Release Date Hiya, I'm back from leave now: there's only so much balmy summer weather I can cope with. We need to figure out what is outstanding in order to get this release sorted. I know we are getting close, but how close are we? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 12 13:34:21 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:34:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date In-Reply-To: <004801cd488a$5985f390$0c91dab0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079D1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004801cd488a$5985f390$0c91dab0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079E79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> JMOL works, so you can tick that off. If we're all happy, and once those outstanding things are tidied up / left for next time (which won't be far away remember) then let's wrap it up. Once it's out in the wild we need to keep an eye on the list and fix issues as they emerge and update the zip, for a period of time at least. It would be good for someone to go through a manual install with the docs and check they still make sense and are in step with what the user sees on the screens. Installation has been the biggest source of problems / support requests, I don't think we can do too much to make that easier. cheers From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 June 2012 11:59 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date The Google doc is up to date and the bugs sheet only shows two issues now... The first issue on row 2 I think is fixed but perhaps Jonathan can confirm The second on row 3 is about the JMOL page - does that still not work for you? e.g. page 18 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 That works for me fine. The main things I'm aware of possibly still outstanding: 1. The discussion between mainly David and Tom about further development of the Authentication code especially during setup - I think Tom was working on that 2. Including the xwd builder functionality in XOT - again I think Tom was finishing that 3. Once the above are done I hope to test upgrading earlier installs and highlight any issues. I would think this is what most will want to do so once tested will need to be documented. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 June 2012 10:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Release Date Hiya, I'm back from leave now: there's only so much balmy summer weather I can cope with. We need to figure out what is outstanding in order to get this release sorted. I know we are getting close, but how close are we? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Jun 12 14:07:53 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:07:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079E79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079D1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004801cd488a$5985f390$0c91dab0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079E79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00c701cd489c$619c1750$24d445f0$@co.uk> Responses below... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 June 2012 13:34 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date JMOL works, so you can tick that off. done If we're all happy, and once those outstanding things are tidied up / left for next time (which won't be far away remember) then let's wrap it up. Once it's out in the wild we need to keep an eye on the list and fix issues as they emerge and update the zip, for a period of time at least. I guess we need Tom or David to confirm 1. and 2. below It would be good for someone to go through a manual install with the docs and check they still make sense and are in step with what the user sees on the screens. Installation has been the biggest source of problems / support requests, I don't think we can do too much to make that easier. Happy to do that once we've confirmed the code is complete cheers From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 June 2012 11:59 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date The Google doc is up to date and the bugs sheet only shows two issues now... The first issue on row 2 I think is fixed but perhaps Jonathan can confirm The second on row 3 is about the JMOL page - does that still not work for you? e.g. page 18 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22 That works for me fine. The main things I'm aware of possibly still outstanding: 1. The discussion between mainly David and Tom about further development of the Authentication code especially during setup - I think Tom was working on that 2. Including the xwd builder functionality in XOT - again I think Tom was finishing that 3. Once the above are done I hope to test upgrading earlier installs and highlight any issues. I would think this is what most will want to do so once tested will need to be documented. HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 June 2012 10:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Release Date Hiya, I'm back from leave now: there's only so much balmy summer weather I can cope with. We need to figure out what is outstanding in order to get this release sorted. I know we are getting close, but how close are we? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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If the files work as they are now, no problem, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 12 June 2012 15:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date If we're all happy, and once those outstanding things are tidied up / left for next time (which won't be far away remember) then let's wrap it up. Once it's out in the wild we need to keep an eye on the list and fix issues as they emerge and update the zip, for a period of time at least. I guess we need Tom or David to confirm 1. and 2. below I'm unlikely to have any free time to work on this in the next few weeks, so it's probably best being left for some future enhancement. David. Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 12 16:23:11 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:23:11 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079FB0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079D1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004801cd488a$5985f390$0c91dab0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079E79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c701cd489c$619c1750$24d445f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079FB0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20120612172311.121518qag2u60sm7@server.tor.nl> I will not be able to work on the authentication code. There is too much that I am not familiar with and I don't have the time to familiarize myself with that. The adding of pages is finished and working, but it needs to be added to the management page. I can't do that this week as I have a lot of meetings and obligations in Dallas right nog (beautiful wheather here, a bit too hot for my liking (36/37 degrees C)) But I want to finish it next week. Tom Citeren Julian Tenney : > OK, that's fine. If the files work as they are now, no problem, > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David > Goodwin > Sent: 12 June 2012 15:24 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date > > > > If we're all happy, and once those outstanding things are tidied up > / left for next time (which won't be far away remember) then let's > wrap it up. Once it's out in the wild we need to keep an eye on the > list and fix issues as they emerge and update the zip, for a period > of time at least. > I guess we need Tom or David to confirm 1. and 2. below > > > > I'm unlikely to have any free time to work on this in the next few > weeks, so it's probably best being left for some future enhancement. > > David. > > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 12 16:23:46 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:23:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date In-Reply-To: <20120612172311.121518qag2u60sm7@server.tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079D1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004801cd488a$5985f390$0c91dab0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079E79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00c701cd489c$619c1750$24d445f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079FB0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <20120612172311.121518qag2u60sm7@server.tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF607A01E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, thanks, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 12 June 2012 16:23 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date I will not be able to work on the authentication code. There is too much that I am not familiar with and I don't have the time to familiarize myself with that. The adding of pages is finished and working, but it needs to be added to the management page. I can't do that this week as I have a lot of meetings and obligations in Dallas right nog (beautiful wheather here, a bit too hot for my liking (36/37 degrees C)) But I want to finish it next week. Tom Citeren Julian Tenney : > OK, that's fine. If the files work as they are now, no problem, > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David > Goodwin > Sent: 12 June 2012 15:24 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date > > > > If we're all happy, and once those outstanding things are tidied up > / left for next time (which won't be far away remember) then let's > wrap it up. Once it's out in the wild we need to keep an eye on the > list and fix issues as they emerge and update the zip, for a period > of time at least. > I guess we need Tom or David to confirm 1. and 2. below > > > > I'm unlikely to have any free time to work on this in the next few > weeks, so it's probably best being left for some future enhancement. > > David. > > > Pale Purple Ltd. (Company No: 5580814) > 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' > > http://www.palepurple.co.uk > Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 > > Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 13 09:46:32 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:46:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6079D1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF607A1B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > I had a fix for the first issue but it will require adding a few lines to every model file, however it would not fix the TOC. The fix for this needs to go in the wizard and editor, not the models, as we've discussed. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 12 June 2012 11:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Release Date I think the models and individual xwd files should be good to go - there was the issue of the icons for a few pages but I think this has been fixed now. I will download the latest beta desktop Xerte-beta.exe tomorrow and give it a quick once over to check the above out. The biggest single issue remaining for the desk top as far as I was concerned was the populating of the display of the page title in the top left corner of the project window and the populating of the page titles in the TOC. I had a fix for the first issue but it will require adding a few lines to every model file, however it would not fix the TOC. If it were possible to update the page Icons title property on closing the page's xwd form i.e. by writing the "name" value from the xml data to the page icon's title property then this would resolve both problems. I think Tom did take a look at this but I don't know if he was able to resolve the issue. Kind regards Johnathan On 12 June 2012 10:55, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hiya, I'm back from leave now: there's only so much balmy summer weather I can cope with. We need to figure out what is outstanding in order to get this release sorted. I know we are getting close, but how close are we? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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I just made a project to test something else and published it; only language-config.xml was copied across so I had to manually copy the other files. There is a line to use Zinc's copyfolder function to copy the languages folder, but I've had issues with that before I think. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 13 16:41:58 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:41:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Publishing a standlaone Xerte Project In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF607A520@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF607A520@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF607A529@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hmm. Testing it on my installed version it worked. It might be 'cos I had a file open in the folder as it was trying to be copied, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 June 2012 16:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Publishing a standlaone Xerte Project Doesn't publish all of the files in the languages folder? Can you test and confirm this? I just made a project to test something else and published it; only language-config.xml was copied across so I had to manually copy the other files. There is a line to use Zinc's copyfolder function to copy the languages folder, but I've had issues with that before I think. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Jun 13 17:17:58 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:17:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Publishing a standlaone Xerte Project In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF607A520@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF607A520@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I installed the latest beta of standalone Xerte this afternoon and created a new "pages" project. I later published it, so I don't know if the file transfer happened on project creation or on publish but I appear to have the same set of files in the project's languages folder as I have in the installation languages folder. Kind regards Johnathan On 13 June 2012 16:38, Julian Tenney wrote: > Doesn?t publish all of the files in the languages folder? Can you test and > confirm this? I just made a project to test something else and published > it; only language-config.xml was copied across so I had to manually copy > the other files. > > > > There is a line to use Zinc?s copyfolder function to copy the languages > folder, but I?ve had issues with that before I think. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 13 17:19:58 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:19:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Publishing a standlaone Xerte Project In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF607A520@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF607A579@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, thanks, I think it was me causing the problem by having a file open, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 13 June 2012 17:18 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Publishing a standlaone Xerte Project I installed the latest beta of standalone Xerte this afternoon and created a new "pages" project. I later published it, so I don't know if the file transfer happened on project creation or on publish but I appear to have the same set of files in the project's languages folder as I have in the installation languages folder. Kind regards Johnathan On 13 June 2012 16:38, Julian Tenney > wrote: Doesn't publish all of the files in the languages folder? Can you test and confirm this? I just made a project to test something else and published it; only language-config.xml was copied across so I had to manually copy the other files. There is a line to use Zinc's copyfolder function to copy the languages folder, but I've had issues with that before I think. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Welcome Ian! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk Tue Jun 19 10:46:51 2012 From: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk (Thomas Rochford) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:46:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Welcome... Message-ID: <-4802408756569387420@unknownmsgid> Hi Ian and Welcome aboard, I?m chiefly responsible for the USB version of XoT which has helped to get people started even before their IT Department has installed a server version. I also help our Learning providers with installation issues, especially problems with Active Directory authentication which is the preferred method for FE and other Colleges. For the future, which I believe to be HTML-5, I?m keen to see if we can get Xerte to work better with mobile devices. Maybe voice activated? This would presumably require some re-shaping of the canvas too. I?m also interested in using IMAP as an authentication system - this will not only help Learning providers without Active Directory but also those using hosted services (such as JANET and AMAZON) who do not support the PHP LDAP plugin - allegedly because it interferes with the Zend Optimiser in Apache. Development/Enhancement of the present SCORM capability would also be popular with providers who require this to evidence progression. I look forward to meeting you in due course Kindest Regards, Thomas Sent from my Windows 8 PC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 19 13:28:30 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:28:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Welcome... In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF61320A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF61320A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hello Ian, It's good to see the Open University taking an interest in Xerte. I remember a few years ago being involved in a Moodle installation. The Open University made significant contributions to Moodle, to the benefit of the whole Moodle community. I am also a keen user of the OU's Compendium software. Prior to retiring I used desktop Xerte to develop learning objects and business process support materials. At that time it was not easy to have access to the wide variety of page types available to Xerte On-line Toolkits users, if you also wanted access to the full power of the desktop editor. This lead to my developing the "Page Wizards" (made possible by the excellent support and help provided by the Xerte Team). Since retiring I have remained active in the Xerte community working on the forthcoming release. I have contributed to the preparation of the model and xwd files to support internationalisation and the capability to have a single set of model and xwd files that can be used by both Xerte and XOT. The new "pages" project type achieves something I have been working towards for several years, the ability to have full access to the Xerte desktop editing environment whilst also being able to load into your project any of the pre-built pages, with full access then to see how they work and to modify them if required. With the next release it will be easier to develop a new page in Desktop Xerte and then import it into your XOT installation. I also contributed some of the new page types that will be available in the next release - The Connector pages and the Inventory and Scenario pages. If you find any accessibility issues with these I will be happy to work with you to correct them. With the moves to HTML5 it will be interesting to see how things evolve. I am particularly interested in the future of the page development environment. So welcome to the fray and happy Xerteing :-) Kind regards Johnathan On 19 June 2012 09:40, Julian Tenney wrote: > Please say ?Hi? to Ian Lindsay, from the Open University who has been > working on some accessibility / screen reader issues in the Engine and has > just joined us. > > > > Welcome Ian! > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Has anyone else come across this? Any idea why? I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of the HTML5 stuff. Fay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Jun 20 09:20:29 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:20:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't the same as the others. I would assume it throws a JS error? On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can?t > select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the > Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it?s pretty much unusable.? Has > anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? > > > > I don?t usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of > the HTML5 stuff. > > > > Fay > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Jun 20 09:24:37 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:24:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i think (if this counts as a distinction) they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" I.E do the buttons enable? On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley wrote: > it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). > > I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to > reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't > the same as the others. > > I would assume it throws a JS error? > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can?t >> select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the >> Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it?s pretty much unusable.? Has >> anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >> >> >> >> I don?t usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of >> the HTML5 stuff. >> >> >> >> Fay >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 20 09:32:38 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:32:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No they don't -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera i think (if this counts as a distinction) they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" I.E do the buttons enable? On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley wrote: > it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). > > I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to > reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't > the same as the others. > > I would assume it throws a JS error? > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can't >> select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the >> Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's pretty much unusable.? Has >> anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >> >> >> >> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of >> the HTML5 stuff. >> >> >> >> Fay >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Jun 20 09:37:10 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:37:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new lines et al) On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > No they don't > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > i think (if this counts as a distinction) > > they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" > > I.E do the buttons enable? > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley > wrote: >> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >> >> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to >> reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't >> the same as the others. >> >> I would assume it throws a JS error? >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can't >>> select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the >>> Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's pretty much unusable.? Has >>> anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of >>> the HTML5 stuff. >>> >>> >>> >>> Fay >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 20 09:41:15 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:41:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One big block -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new lines et al) On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > No they don't > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > i think (if this counts as a distinction) > > they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" > > I.E do the buttons enable? > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley > wrote: >> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >> >> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to >> reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't >> the same as the others. >> >> I would assume it throws a JS error? >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can't >>> select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the >>> Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's pretty much unusable.? Has >>> anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of >>> the HTML5 stuff. >>> >>> >>> >>> Fay >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Jun 20 09:43:49 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:43:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, FF and Chrome see it as a text node) Any JS Errors? On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > One big block > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area > is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new > lines et al) > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> No they don't >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >> >> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >> >> I.E do the buttons enable? >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >> wrote: >>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>> >>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to >>> reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't >>> the same as the others. >>> >>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can't >>>> select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the >>>> Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's pretty much unusable.? Has >>>> anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of >>>> the HTML5 stuff. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Fay >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 20 09:53:28 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:53:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, FF and Chrome see it as a text node) Any JS Errors? On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > One big block > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area > is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new > lines et al) > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> No they don't >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >> >> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >> >> I.E do the buttons enable? >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >> wrote: >>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>> >>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to >>> reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't >>> the same as the others. >>> >>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can't >>>> select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the >>>> Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's pretty much unusable.? Has >>>> anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of >>>> the HTML5 stuff. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Fay >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Jun 20 10:30:13 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:30:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Then something odd must be happening in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js around line 798 if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't being set properly in opera. Just stick an alert before the if On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > No > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, > FF and Chrome see it as a text node) > > Any JS Errors? > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> One big block >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >> lines et al) >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>> No they don't >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>> >>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>> >>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>> wrote: >>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>> >>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to >>>> reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't >>>> the same as the others. >>>> >>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can't >>>>> select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the >>>>> Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's pretty much unusable.? Has >>>>> anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of >>>>> the HTML5 stuff. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fay >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Jun 20 11:33:39 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:33:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Recent updates to model files Message-ID: I have just refreshed my Xerte svn copy and noticed that updates have taken place to the following models columnPage.rlm buttonNav.rlm slideshow.rlm accNav.rlm tabNav.rlm Are the changes to the tabNav.rlm page related to accessibility issues, or are they simply enhancements to the pages? I used the tabNav.rlm model as the basis for the tabNav Connector page. So if there were accessibility issues with the model then I may need to get my head around the recent changes to consider the need for changes to the tabNav Connector model. Also I notice that the first line of the model file includes language="en-GB" Is this an error or is this now a requirement in the model files? I thought the model files were language independent, the internationalisation being handled by selection of the appropriate xwd file set. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 20 June 2012 11:34 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Recent updates to model files I have just refreshed my Xerte svn copy and noticed that updates have taken place to the following models columnPage.rlm buttonNav.rlm slideshow.rlm accNav.rlm tabNav.rlm Are the changes to the tabNav.rlm page related to accessibility issues, or are they simply enhancements to the pages? I used the tabNav.rlm model as the basis for the tabNav Connector page. So if there were accessibility issues with the model then I may need to get my head around the recent changes to consider the need for changes to the tabNav Connector model. Also I notice that the first line of the model file includes language="en-GB" Is this an error or is this now a requirement in the model files? I thought the model files were language independent, the internationalisation being handled by selection of the appropriate xwd file set. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 20 11:45:03 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:45:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recent updates to model files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621164C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Ah, sorry, the en-GB, I have no idea, I don't think I put that in there. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 20 June 2012 11:34 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Recent updates to model files I have just refreshed my Xerte svn copy and noticed that updates have taken place to the following models columnPage.rlm buttonNav.rlm slideshow.rlm accNav.rlm tabNav.rlm Are the changes to the tabNav.rlm page related to accessibility issues, or are they simply enhancements to the pages? I used the tabNav.rlm model as the basis for the tabNav Connector page. So if there were accessibility issues with the model then I may need to get my head around the recent changes to consider the need for changes to the tabNav Connector model. Also I notice that the first line of the model file includes language="en-GB" Is this an error or is this now a requirement in the model files? I thought the model files were language independent, the internationalisation being handled by selection of the appropriate xwd file set. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 20 13:20:04 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:20:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll test it in a bit and get back to you -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 20 June 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera Then something odd must be happening in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js around line 798 if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't being set properly in opera. Just stick an alert before the if On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > No > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, > FF and Chrome see it as a text node) > > Any JS Errors? > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> One big block >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >> lines et al) >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>> No they don't >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>> >>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>> >>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>> wrote: >>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>> >>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to >>>> reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't >>>> the same as the others. >>>> >>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can't >>>>> select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the >>>>> Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's pretty much unusable.? Has >>>>> anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of >>>>> the HTML5 stuff. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fay >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. 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Please feel free to use and review :) Pat From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 20 18:26:17 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:26:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Moodle 2.2 Filter plugin for XOT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Nice one. Have you started the new job yet? ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 20 June 2012 18:08 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Moodle 2.2 Filter plugin for XOT Hello all, http://moodle.org/plugins/view.php?plugin=filter_xerteonlinetoolkitsfilter Has been approved so new appears on the site. Please feel free to use and review :) Pat _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Jun 20 19:16:24 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:16:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Moodle 2.2 Filter plugin for XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF58EF4F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <2AFEE45B-4B1A-4B0A-B456-22353C93F82C@googlemail.com> Yep, left on weds - started Monday. Think we'd have a case for toolkits HTML 5 as well. On 20 Jun 2012, at 18:26, Julian Tenney wrote: > Nice one. Have you started the new job yet? > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 20 June 2012 18:08 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Moodle 2.2 Filter plugin for XOT > > Hello all, > > http://moodle.org/plugins/view.php?plugin=filter_xerteonlinetoolkitsfilter > > Has been approved so new appears on the site. > > Please feel free to use and review :) > > Pat > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jun 21 10:34:01 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:34:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Outstanding stuff Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? 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Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney wrote: > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jun 21 14:45:20 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:45:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things - let's get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney wrote: > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function?Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open XerteOpen a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project)Open the wizard for the plain text pageIn the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview.Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works)Close the page wizard form.Open the page wizard form once more.Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney wrote: It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney wrote:Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 08:57:17 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:57:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things - let's get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 10:39:45 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:39:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just looking at this now. It doesn't get into this function (single_click) at all - although you can see the divs do have an onmousedown in them calling the function. Is this just something that isn't going to work in Opera. I don't suppose it's a huge problem, I don't remember anyone ever contacting the list about it so is anyone even using Opera? I imagine it was the first and last time I would ever have tried to use it in there anyway. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 20 June 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera Then something odd must be happening in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js around line 798 if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't being set properly in opera. Just stick an alert before the if On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > No > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, > FF and Chrome see it as a text node) > > Any JS Errors? > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> One big block >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >> lines et al) >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>> No they don't >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>> >>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>> >>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>> wrote: >>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>> >>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to >>>> reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't >>>> the same as the others. >>>> >>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can't >>>>> select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the >>>>> Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's pretty much unusable.? Has >>>>> anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of >>>>> the HTML5 stuff. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fay >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. 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Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Jun 22 10:51:55 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:51:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601cd505c$a9416160$fbc42420$@co.uk> It would be a bigger problem if LO's didn't play in Opera but they do. I think Julian has responded previously that ideally the workspace and authoring etc should work in Opera as well as the other common browsers but as you say it doesn't crop up as an issue very often. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 22 June 2012 10:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera Just looking at this now. It doesn't get into this function (single_click) at all - although you can see the divs do have an onmousedown in them calling the function. Is this just something that isn't going to work in Opera. I don't suppose it's a huge problem, I don't remember anyone ever contacting the list about it so is anyone even using Opera? I imagine it was the first and last time I would ever have tried to use it in there anyway. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 20 June 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera Then something odd must be happening in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js around line 798 if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't being set properly in opera. Just stick an alert before the if On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > No > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, > FF and Chrome see it as a text node) > > Any JS Errors? > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> One big block >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >> lines et al) >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>> No they don't >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>> >>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>> >>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>> wrote: >>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>> >>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs >>>> to reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode >>>> isn't the same as the others. >>>> >>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that >>>>> you can't select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? >>>>> I can select the Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's >>>>> pretty much unusable.? Has anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of >>>>> testing some of the HTML5 stuff. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fay >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>> immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any >>>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Jun 22 10:55:47 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:55:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What does the onmousedown call? One of the problems in the code is that I have to define single click and double click myself, and I recall the FF was a lot slower. I think somewhere in the code is a block of code which says "if IE then else" when it comes to detecting the frequency of clicks. The alternative is that div isn't appearing correctly on the screen (or where you would expect it to). Perhaps give the DIV a border element so you can see where opera thinks it is? Mark once reported it as not working in Opera (a long, long time ago) On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > Just looking at this now. > > It doesn't get into this function (single_click) at all - although you can see the divs do have an onmousedown in them calling the function. > > Is this just something that isn't going to work in Opera. ?I don't suppose it's a huge problem, I don't remember anyone ever contacting the list about it so is anyone even using Opera? ?I imagine it was the first and last time I would ever have tried to use it in there anyway. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 10:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > Then something odd must be happening > > in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js > > around line 798 > > if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) > > if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't > being set properly in opera. > > Just stick an alert before the if > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> No >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, >> FF and Chrome see it as a text node) >> >> Any JS Errors? >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>> One big block >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >>> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >>> lines et al) >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>> No they don't >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>>> >>>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>>> >>>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>>> >>>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>>> wrote: >>>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>>> >>>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to >>>>> reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't >>>>> the same as the others. >>>>> >>>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can't >>>>>> select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the >>>>>> Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's pretty much unusable.? Has >>>>>> anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of >>>>>> the HTML5 stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fay >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 11:04:42 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:04:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, I tried putting a border around it which displays correctly (like in FF). The onmousedown calls single_click and file_folder_click_pause - I tried just calling an alert from it which worked in other browsers but not in Opera. I found a couple of places referring to specific browsers but neither seemed to be referring to clicking/selecting - probably looking in the wrong place. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 22 June 2012 10:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera What does the onmousedown call? One of the problems in the code is that I have to define single click and double click myself, and I recall the FF was a lot slower. I think somewhere in the code is a block of code which says "if IE then else" when it comes to detecting the frequency of clicks. The alternative is that div isn't appearing correctly on the screen (or where you would expect it to). Perhaps give the DIV a border element so you can see where opera thinks it is? Mark once reported it as not working in Opera (a long, long time ago) On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > Just looking at this now. > > It doesn't get into this function (single_click) at all - although you can see the divs do have an onmousedown in them calling the function. > > Is this just something that isn't going to work in Opera. ?I don't suppose it's a huge problem, I don't remember anyone ever contacting the list about it so is anyone even using Opera? ?I imagine it was the first and last time I would ever have tried to use it in there anyway. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 10:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > Then something odd must be happening > > in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js > > around line 798 > > if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) > > if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't > being set properly in opera. > > Just stick an alert before the if > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> No >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, >> FF and Chrome see it as a text node) >> >> Any JS Errors? >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>> One big block >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >>> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >>> lines et al) >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>> No they don't >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>>> >>>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>>> >>>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>>> >>>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>>> wrote: >>>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>>> >>>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs to >>>>> reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode isn't >>>>> the same as the others. >>>>> >>>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that you can't >>>>>> select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? I can select the >>>>>> Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's pretty much unusable.? Has >>>>>> anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of testing some of >>>>>> the HTML5 stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fay >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>>> attachment. 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Email communications with the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 11:07:32 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:07:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: <000601cd505c$a9416160$fbc42420$@co.uk> References: <000601cd505c$a9416160$fbc42420$@co.uk> Message-ID: You can create new LOs fine too - just can't edit them again at a later date -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 June 2012 10:52 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera It would be a bigger problem if LO's didn't play in Opera but they do. I think Julian has responded previously that ideally the workspace and authoring etc should work in Opera as well as the other common browsers but as you say it doesn't crop up as an issue very often. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 22 June 2012 10:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera Just looking at this now. It doesn't get into this function (single_click) at all - although you can see the divs do have an onmousedown in them calling the function. Is this just something that isn't going to work in Opera. I don't suppose it's a huge problem, I don't remember anyone ever contacting the list about it so is anyone even using Opera? I imagine it was the first and last time I would ever have tried to use it in there anyway. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 20 June 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera Then something odd must be happening in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js around line 798 if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't being set properly in opera. Just stick an alert before the if On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > No > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, > FF and Chrome see it as a text node) > > Any JS Errors? > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> One big block >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >> lines et al) >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>> No they don't >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>> >>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>> >>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>> wrote: >>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>> >>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs >>>> to reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode >>>> isn't the same as the others. >>>> >>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that >>>>> you can't select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? >>>>> I can select the Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's >>>>> pretty much unusable.? Has anyone else come across this?? Any idea why? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of >>>>> testing some of the HTML5 stuff. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fay >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications >>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Jun 22 11:13:46 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:13:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: <000601cd505c$a9416160$fbc42420$@co.uk> Message-ID: what is the opera firebug called - dragonfly? I would guess that the event handler isn't being added properly in opera. add something like this before the closing body tag On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > You can create new LOs fine too - just can't edit them again at a later date > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 22 June 2012 10:52 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > It would be a bigger problem if LO's didn't play in Opera but they do. > > I think Julian has responded previously that ideally the workspace and > authoring etc should work in Opera as well as the other common browsers but > as you say it doesn't crop up as an issue very often. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross > Sent: 22 June 2012 10:40 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > Just looking at this now. > > It doesn't get into this function (single_click) at all - although you can > see the divs do have an onmousedown in them calling the function. > > Is this just something that isn't going to work in Opera. ?I don't suppose > it's a huge problem, I don't remember anyone ever contacting the list about > it so is anyone even using Opera? ?I imagine it was the first and last time > I would ever have tried to use it in there anyway. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 10:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > Then something odd must be happening > > in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js > > around line 798 > > if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) > > if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't being > set properly in opera. > > Just stick an alert before the if > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >> No >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, >> FF and Chrome see it as a text node) >> >> Any JS Errors? >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >>> One big block >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >>> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >>> lines et al) >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >>>> No they don't >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>>> >>>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>>> >>>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>>> >>>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>>> wrote: >>>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>>> >>>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs >>>>> to reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode >>>>> isn't the same as the others. >>>>> >>>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >>>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that >>>>>> you can't select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace. >>>>>> I can select the Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's >>>>>> pretty much unusable.? Has anyone else come across this?? Any idea > why? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of >>>>>> testing some of the HTML5 stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fay >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>>> immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any >>>>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Jun 22 11:14:54 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:14:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The pages only display once you have created a pages project. A word of warning. You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location of the latest rlm and xwd files. The latest files are still in Xerte svn / pageWizards / models Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure Xerte / pages / models Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb The runtime folder has the structure Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the release version expectations 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set of files the better. During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the svn that this would be temporary. I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst development is still taking place. " We need some documentation here." I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have been responsible for. I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney wrote: > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 11:18:09 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:18:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and have a developer's xerte run on your machines for testing etc, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 11:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff The pages only display once you have created a pages project. A word of warning. You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location of the latest rlm and xwd files. The latest files are still in Xerte svn / pageWizards / models Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure Xerte / pages / models Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb The runtime folder has the structure Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the release version expectations 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set of files the better. During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the svn that this would be temporary. I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst development is still taking place. " We need some documentation here." I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have been responsible for. I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things - let's get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 11:56:34 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:56:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: <000601cd505c$a9416160$fbc42420$@co.uk> References: <000601cd505c$a9416160$fbc42420$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212051@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Let's not get too worked up about it, Opera users are a very small percentage, and I think they are used to having to use different browsers for different things, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 June 2012 10:52 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera It would be a bigger problem if LO's didn't play in Opera but they do. I think Julian has responded previously that ideally the workspace and authoring etc should work in Opera as well as the other common browsers but as you say it doesn't crop up as an issue very often. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 22 June 2012 10:40 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera Just looking at this now. It doesn't get into this function (single_click) at all - although you can see the divs do have an onmousedown in them calling the function. Is this just something that isn't going to work in Opera. I don't suppose it's a huge problem, I don't remember anyone ever contacting the list about it so is anyone even using Opera? I imagine it was the first and last time I would ever have tried to use it in there anyway. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 20 June 2012 10:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera Then something odd must be happening in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js around line 798 if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't being set properly in opera. Just stick an alert before the if On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross wrote: > No > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, > FF and Chrome see it as a text node) > > Any JS Errors? > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >> One big block >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >> lines et al) >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>> No they don't >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>> >>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>> >>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>> wrote: >>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>> >>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs >>>> to reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode >>>> isn't the same as the others. >>>> >>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross wrote: >>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that >>>>> you can't select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace.? >>>>> I can select the Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's >>>>> pretty much unusable.? 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With respect to how turtle svn works If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a new location? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney wrote: > Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be > an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and > have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 11:15 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > The pages only display once you have created a pages project. > > > > A word of warning. > > > > You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location > of the latest rlm and xwd files. > > > > The latest files are still in > > > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / models > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB > > > > The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure > > > > Xerte / pages / models > > Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb > > > > The runtime folder has the structure > > > > Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models > > Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en > > > > This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that > at present you are likely to hit two problems > > 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the > release version expectations > > 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. > > I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror > the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set > of files the better. > > > > During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the > pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that > section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the > tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have > the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. > > > > It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the > svn that this would be temporary. > > > > I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I > don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst > development is still taking place. > > > > " We need some documentation here." > > > > I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have > been responsible for. > > > > I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages > project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 12:03:49 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:03:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as deleted. I think you can ;'move' stuff within the repo though - That software is pretty clever, I'd be amazed they hadn't thought of stuff like this... One thing, as a commiter I'm not sure if you can change the project structure, so let me know if you can't add / remove folders. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 12:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff OK will do. With respect to how turtle svn works If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a new location? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and have a developer's xerte run on your machines for testing etc, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 11:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff The pages only display once you have created a pages project. A word of warning. You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location of the latest rlm and xwd files. The latest files are still in Xerte svn / pageWizards / models Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure Xerte / pages / models Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb The runtime folder has the structure Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the release version expectations 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set of files the better. During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the svn that this would be temporary. I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst development is still taking place. " We need some documentation here." I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have been responsible for. I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things - let's get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Jun 22 12:10:05 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:10:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212051@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <000601cd505c$a9416160$fbc42420$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212051@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I've not got broadband at home yet - once I do I'll see if I can work out why - half tempted to believe it is case sensitive (onMouseDown maybe?) It can't be a huge thing to fix. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Let's not get too worked up about it, Opera users are a very small percentage, and I think they are used to having to use different browsers for different things, > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 22 June 2012 10:52 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > It would be a bigger problem if LO's didn't play in Opera but they do. > > I think Julian has responded previously that ideally the workspace and > authoring etc should work in Opera as well as the other common browsers but > as you say it doesn't crop up as an issue very often. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross > Sent: 22 June 2012 10:40 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > Just looking at this now. > > It doesn't get into this function (single_click) at all - although you can > see the divs do have an onmousedown in them calling the function. > > Is this just something that isn't going to work in Opera. ?I don't suppose > it's a huge problem, I don't remember anyone ever contacting the list about > it so is anyone even using Opera? ?I imagine it was the first and last time > I would ever have tried to use it in there anyway. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 10:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > Then something odd must be happening > > in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js > > around line 798 > > if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) > > if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't being > set properly in opera. > > Just stick an alert before the if > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >> No >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, >> FF and Chrome see it as a text node) >> >> Any JS Errors? >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >>> One big block >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >>> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >>> lines et al) >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >>>> No they don't >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>>> >>>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>>> >>>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>>> >>>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>>> wrote: >>>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>>> >>>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs >>>>> to reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode >>>>> isn't the same as the others. >>>>> >>>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >>>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that >>>>>> you can't select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace. >>>>>> I can select the Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's >>>>>> pretty much unusable.? 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Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 12:58:38 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:58:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera In-Reply-To: References: <000601cd505c$a9416160$fbc42420$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212051@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Pat. I did go to add in the alert before the end of the html you suggested but couldn't find the file to put it in. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 22 June 2012 12:10 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera I've not got broadband at home yet - once I do I'll see if I can work out why - half tempted to believe it is case sensitive (onMouseDown maybe?) It can't be a huge thing to fix. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Let's not get too worked up about it, Opera users are a very small percentage, and I think they are used to having to use different browsers for different things, > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 22 June 2012 10:52 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > It would be a bigger problem if LO's didn't play in Opera but they do. > > I think Julian has responded previously that ideally the workspace and > authoring etc should work in Opera as well as the other common browsers but > as you say it doesn't crop up as an issue very often. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross > Sent: 22 June 2012 10:40 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > Just looking at this now. > > It doesn't get into this function (single_click) at all - although you can > see the divs do have an onmousedown in them calling the function. > > Is this just something that isn't going to work in Opera. ?I don't suppose > it's a huge problem, I don't remember anyone ever contacting the list about > it so is anyone even using Opera? ?I imagine it was the first and last time > I would ever have tried to use it in there anyway. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 20 June 2012 10:30 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > Then something odd must be happening > > in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js > > around line 798 > > if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) > > if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't being > set properly in opera. > > Just stick an alert before the if > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >> No >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, >> FF and Chrome see it as a text node) >> >> Any JS Errors? >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >>> One big block >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >>> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >>> lines et al) >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >>>> No they don't >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>>> >>>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>>> >>>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>>> >>>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>>> wrote: >>>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>>> >>>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs >>>>> to reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode >>>>> isn't the same as the others. >>>>> >>>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross > wrote: >>>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that >>>>>> you can't select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace. >>>>>> I can select the Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's >>>>>> pretty much unusable.? Has anyone else come across this?? Any idea > why? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of >>>>>> testing some of the HTML5 stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fay >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Jun 22 14:06:35 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:06:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of the xerte svn I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion this can present. There are a few points to note. 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than packaged in an xtp file. 2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"? 3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta. 4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl 5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that needs resolving? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney wrote: Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as > deleted. I think you can ;?move? stuff within the repo though ? That > software is pretty clever, I?d be amazed they hadn?t thought of stuff like > this? > > > > One thing, as a commiter I?m not sure if you can change the project > structure, so let me know if you can?t add / remove folders. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 12:01 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > OK will do. > > > > With respect to how turtle svn works > > > > If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / > > > > and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte > svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , > > > > will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a > new location? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be > an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and > have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 11:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > The pages only display once you have created a pages project. > > > > A word of warning. > > > > You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location > of the latest rlm and xwd files. > > > > The latest files are still in > > > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / models > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB > > > > The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure > > > > Xerte / pages / models > > Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb > > > > The runtime folder has the structure > > > > Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models > > Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en > > > > This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that > at present you are likely to hit two problems > > 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the > release version expectations > > 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. > > I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror > the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set > of files the better. > > > > During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the > pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that > section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the > tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have > the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. > > > > It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the > svn that this would be temporary. > > > > I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I > don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst > development is still taking place. > > > > " We need some documentation here." > > > > I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have > been responsible for. > > > > I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages > project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 14:10:40 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:10:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Oh, by the way, I'm happy with the changes! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 14:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of the xerte svn I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion this can present. There are a few points to note. 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than packaged in an xtp file. 2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"? 3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta. 4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl 5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that needs resolving? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney > wrote: Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as deleted. I think you can ;'move' stuff within the repo though - That software is pretty clever, I'd be amazed they hadn't thought of stuff like this... One thing, as a commiter I'm not sure if you can change the project structure, so let me know if you can't add / remove folders. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 12:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff OK will do. With respect to how turtle svn works If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a new location? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and have a developer's xerte run on your machines for testing etc, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 11:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff The pages only display once you have created a pages project. A word of warning. You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location of the latest rlm and xwd files. The latest files are still in Xerte svn / pageWizards / models Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure Xerte / pages / models Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb The runtime folder has the structure Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the release version expectations 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set of files the better. During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the svn that this would be temporary. I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst development is still taking place. " We need some documentation here." I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have been responsible for. I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things - let's get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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I would normally say index.php in the SVN Trunk? On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Fay Cross wrote: > Thanks Pat. ?I did go to add in the alert before the end of the html you suggested but couldn't find the file to put it in. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 22 June 2012 12:10 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera > > I've not got broadband at home yet - once I do I'll see if I can work > out why - half tempted to believe it is case sensitive (onMouseDown > maybe?) > > It can't be a huge thing to fix. > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Let's not get too worked up about it, Opera users are a very small percentage, and I think they are used to having to use different browsers for different things, >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 22 June 2012 10:52 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> It would be a bigger problem if LO's didn't play in Opera but they do. >> >> I think Julian has responded previously that ideally the workspace and >> authoring etc should work in Opera as well as the other common browsers but >> as you say it doesn't crop up as an issue very often. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross >> Sent: 22 June 2012 10:40 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> Just looking at this now. >> >> It doesn't get into this function (single_click) at all - although you can >> see the divs do have an onmousedown in them calling the function. >> >> Is this just something that isn't going to work in Opera. ?I don't suppose >> it's a huge problem, I don't remember anyone ever contacting the list about >> it so is anyone even using Opera? ?I imagine it was the first and last time >> I would ever have tried to use it in there anyway. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 20 June 2012 10:30 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >> >> Then something odd must be happening >> >> in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js >> >> around line 798 >> >> if(div_name != null && div_name.highlight==false) >> >> if the "should I select" JS code. I would guess maybe div_name isn't being >> set properly in opera. >> >> Just stick an alert before the if >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Fay Cross >> wrote: >>> No >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:44 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>> >>> it's whitespace that usually kills it (IE sees whitespace as nothing, >>> FF and Chrome see it as a text node) >>> >>> Any JS Errors? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fay Cross >> wrote: >>>> One big block >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:37 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>>> >>>> if in opera you do a view source on the code - in the workspace area >>>> is the HTML one big block, or is the html pretty formatted (tabs, new >>>> lines et al) >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fay Cross >> wrote: >>>>> No they don't >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>> Lockley >>>>> Sent: 20 June 2012 09:25 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Using Toolits in Opera >>>>> >>>>> i think (if this counts as a distinction) >>>>> >>>>> they might be "selected" - just not "highlighted" >>>>> >>>>> I.E do the buttons enable? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Pat Lockley >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> it hasn't worked in opera for years (since I was at Nottingham). >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the reason is because when you click on a project it needs >>>>>> to reference the parent of the item, and opera's take on parentNode >>>>>> isn't the same as the others. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would assume it throws a JS error? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Fay Cross >> wrote: >>>>>>> I just tried to log in to Toolkits using Opera and have found that >>>>>>> you can't select any of the projects/folders from the Workspace. >>>>>>> I can select the Workspace folder but nothing inside it so it's >>>>>>> pretty much unusable.? Has anyone else come across this?? Any idea >> why? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't usually use Opera but had it open already because of >>>>>>> testing some of the HTML5 stuff. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>>>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>>>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: >>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications >>>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 14:10:28 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:10:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you're gonna get in a mess. Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the repository (this is important). Always do an update before any commits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 14:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of the xerte svn I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion this can present. There are a few points to note. 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than packaged in an xtp file. 2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"? 3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta. 4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl 5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that needs resolving? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney > wrote: Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as deleted. I think you can ;'move' stuff within the repo though - That software is pretty clever, I'd be amazed they hadn't thought of stuff like this... One thing, as a commiter I'm not sure if you can change the project structure, so let me know if you can't add / remove folders. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 12:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff OK will do. With respect to how turtle svn works If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a new location? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and have a developer's xerte run on your machines for testing etc, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 11:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff The pages only display once you have created a pages project. A word of warning. You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location of the latest rlm and xwd files. The latest files are still in Xerte svn / pageWizards / models Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure Xerte / pages / models Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb The runtime folder has the structure Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the release version expectations 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set of files the better. During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the svn that this would be temporary. I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst development is still taking place. " We need some documentation here." I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have been responsible for. I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things - let's get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Jun 22 15:14:34 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:14:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I did an update before I made any changes. I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around. According to the svn help the ! means The *Modified* overlay represents the modified state, where you have made local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the repository have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, where a file has been deleted and replaced by another different file with the same name. If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste. The tortoise svn help says You can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to the clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then use TortoiseSVN ? Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or move those items to the new working copy location. "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in a mess." I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new local copy. Would that not sort it out? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney wrote: > Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in > a mess. > > > > Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo > otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to > duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the > repository (this is important). > > > > Always do an update before any commits. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 14:07 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of > the xerte svn > > > > I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the > definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. > > > > It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an > installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. > > > > I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer > to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy > that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. > > > > Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated > folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be > confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two > sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion > this can present. > > > > There are a few points to note. > > > > 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / > pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will > be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than > packaged in an xtp file. > > 2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and > in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need > removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also > a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"? > > 3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called > "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta. > > 4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not > up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it > may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? > So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder > into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl > > 5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model > files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that > needs resolving? > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > > Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as > deleted. I think you can ;?move? stuff within the repo though ? That > software is pretty clever, I?d be amazed they hadn?t thought of stuff like > this? > > > > One thing, as a commiter I?m not sure if you can change the project > structure, so let me know if you can?t add / remove folders. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 12:01 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > OK will do. > > > > With respect to how turtle svn works > > > > If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / > > > > and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte > svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , > > > > will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a > new location? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be > an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and > have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 11:15 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > The pages only display once you have created a pages project. > > > > A word of warning. > > > > You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location > of the latest rlm and xwd files. > > > > The latest files are still in > > > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / models > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB > > > > The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure > > > > Xerte / pages / models > > Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb > > > > The runtime folder has the structure > > > > Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models > > Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en > > > > This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that > at present you are likely to hit two problems > > 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the > release version expectations > > 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. > > I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror > the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set > of files the better. > > > > During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the > pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that > section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the > tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have > the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. > > > > It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the > svn that this would be temporary. > > > > I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I > don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst > development is still taking place. > > > > " We need some documentation here." > > > > I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have > been responsible for. > > > > I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages > project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 15:17:56 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62121B5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Getting a new copy of the svn would fix it, yes, but you?d lose your changes. I?ve found the !s hard to get rid of after some seemingly perfectly legitimate operations have produced them? always try and sort them out before doing anything else, but I?m not deep into Tortoise, so I don?t know how best to approach it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 15:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I did an update before I made any changes. I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around. According to the svn help the ! means The Modified overlay represents the modified state, where you have made local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the repository have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, where a file has been deleted and replaced by another different file with the same name. If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste. The tortoise svn help says You can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to the clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then use TortoiseSVN ? Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or move those items to the new working copy location. "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in a mess." I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new local copy. Would that not sort it out? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney > wrote: Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in a mess. Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the repository (this is important). Always do an update before any commits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 14:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of the xerte svn I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion this can present. There are a few points to note. 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than packaged in an xtp file. 2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"? 3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta. 4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl 5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that needs resolving? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney > wrote: Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as deleted. I think you can ;?move? stuff within the repo though ? That software is pretty clever, I?d be amazed they hadn?t thought of stuff like this? One thing, as a commiter I?m not sure if you can change the project structure, so let me know if you can?t add / remove folders. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 12:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff OK will do. With respect to how turtle svn works If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a new location? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 11:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff The pages only display once you have created a pages project. A word of warning. You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location of the latest rlm and xwd files. The latest files are still in Xerte svn / pageWizards / models Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure Xerte / pages / models Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb The runtime folder has the structure Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the release version expectations 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set of files the better. During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the svn that this would be temporary. I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst development is still taking place. " We need some documentation here." I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have been responsible for. I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Jun 22 15:24:59 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:24:59 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62121B5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62121B5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: How about: Open files in question, copy content to notepad and save new isolated file outside svn folders. Revert files until rid of ! Update from svn to get latest. If you use UltraEdit instead of NotePad (and everyone should) you can do File Compare to see what's different between latest and isolated versions. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Getting a new copy of the svn would fix it, yes, but you?d lose your changes. I?ve found the !s hard to get rid of after some seemingly perfectly legitimate operations have produced them? always try and sort them out before doing anything else, but I?m not deep into Tortoise, so I don?t know how best to approach it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 15:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I did an update before I made any changes. I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around. According to the svn help the ! means The Modified overlay represents the modified state, where you have made local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the repository have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, where a file has been deleted and replaced by another different file with the same name. If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste. The tortoise svn help saysYou can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to the clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then use TortoiseSVN ? Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or move those items to the new working copy location. "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in a mess." I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new local copy. Would that not sort it out? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney wrote:Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in a mess. Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the repository (this is important). Always do an update before any commits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 14:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of the xerte svn I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion this can present. There are a few points to note. 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than packaged in an xtp file.2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"?3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta.4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that needs resolving?Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney wrote: Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as deleted. I think you can ;?move? stuff within the repo though ? That software is pretty clever, I?d be amazed they hadn?t thought of stuff like this? One thing, as a commiter I?m not sure if you can change the project structure, so let me know if you can?t add / remove folders. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp JohnathanSent: 22 June 2012 12:01To: For Xerte technical developersSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff OK will do. With respect to how turtle svn works If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a new location? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney wrote:Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp JohnathanSent: 22 June 2012 11:15To: For Xerte technical developersSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff The pages only display once you have created a pages project. A word of warning. You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location of the latest rlm and xwd files. The latest files are still in Xerte svn / pageWizards / modelsXerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure Xerte / pages / modelsXerte / pages / wizards / en-gb The runtime folder has the structure Xerte svn / runtime / pages / modelsXerte svn / runtime / wizards / en This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the release version expectations2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version.I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set of files the better. During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the svn that this would be temporary. I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst development is still taking place. " We need some documentation here." I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have been responsible for. I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney wrote:Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave BurnettSent: 21 June 2012 17:50To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again".I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function?Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.comTo: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuffI have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open XerteOpen a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project)Open the wizard for the plain text pageIn the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works)Close the preview.Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works)Close the page wizard form.Open the page wizard form once more.Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place)Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney wrote:It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp JohnathanSent: 21 June 2012 14:28To: For Xerte technical developersSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney wrote:Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); }} So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Jun 22 15:55:01 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:55:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62121B5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: At present the model files that are showing ! against them are copies of the model files in the pageWizards / models section of the svn. I created a folder outside of my copy of the svn and then copied the files from the svn into the folder (without the .svn folder). I then reverted the files in the svn to get back to a point with no ! Then I updated to get the latest version and compared the updated files to the copy I had taken. The latest files do not contain the changes I committed. I compared them to my copies using winmerge portable. So I copied and pasted (plain old windows version of copy and paste) my back up copies of the files into the svn and the ! reappeared. Then I tried to commit the changes and a message displayed that there were no changes to commit. I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also hidden stuff in each file as well? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 15:24, Dave Burnett wrote: > > How about: > > Open files in question, copy content to notepad and save new isolated file > outside svn folders. > > Revert files until rid of ! > > Update from svn to get latest. > > If you use UltraEdit instead of NotePad (and everyone should) you can do > File Compare to see what's different between latest and isolated versions. > > > ------------------------------ > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:56 +0100 > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > Getting a new copy of the svn would fix it, yes, but you?d lose your > changes. I?ve found the !s hard to get rid of after some seemingly > perfectly legitimate operations have produced them? always try and sort > them out before doing anything else, but I?m not deep into Tortoise, so I > don?t know how best to approach it, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 15:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > I did an update before I made any changes. > > > > I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around. > > > > According to the svn help the ! means > > > > The *Modified* overlay represents the modified state, where you have made > local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the repository > have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, where a file > has been deleted and replaced by another different file with the same name. > > > > If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models > folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in > the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then > right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste. > > > > The tortoise svn help says > > You can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or > between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use > the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to > the clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then > use TortoiseSVN ? Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or > move those items to the new working copy location. > > "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in > a mess." > > > > I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem > with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and > committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new > local copy. Would that not sort it out? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in > a mess. > > > > Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo > otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to > duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the > repository (this is important). > > > > Always do an update before any commits. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 14:07 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of > the xerte svn > > > > I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the > definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. > > > > It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an > installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. > > > > I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer > to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy > that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. > > > > Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated > folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be > confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two > sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion > this can present. > > > > There are a few points to note. > > > > 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / > pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will > be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than > packaged in an xtp file. > > 2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and > in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need > removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also > a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"? > > 3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called > "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta. > > 4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not > up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it > may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? > So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder > into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl > > 5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model > files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that > needs resolving? > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > > Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as > deleted. I think you can ;?move? stuff within the repo though ? That > software is pretty clever, I?d be amazed they hadn?t thought of stuff like > this? > > > > One thing, as a commiter I?m not sure if you can change the project > structure, so let me know if you can?t add / remove folders. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 12:01 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > OK will do. > > > > With respect to how turtle svn works > > > > If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / > > > > and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte > svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , > > > > will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a > new location? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be > an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and > have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 11:15 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > The pages only display once you have created a pages project. > > > > A word of warning. > > > > You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location > of the latest rlm and xwd files. > > > > The latest files are still in > > > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / models > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB > > > > The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure > > > > Xerte / pages / models > > Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb > > > > The runtime folder has the structure > > > > Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models > > Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en > > > > This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that > at present you are likely to hit two problems > > 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the > release version expectations > > 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. > > I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror > the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set > of files the better. > > > > During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the > pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that > section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the > tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have > the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. > > > > It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the > svn that this would be temporary. > > > > I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I > don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst > development is still taking place. > > > > " We need some documentation here." > > > > I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have > been responsible for. > > > > I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages > project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 22 15:57:20 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:57:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62121B5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212218@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also hidden stuff in each file as well? I don?t know, but I know that copying things with simple copy / paste ends up with problems, because the info in the svn folders get?s all screwed up. So I always export anything, add the files as new files and then delete the old files. Try deleting the files, commit, get rid of the errors and get green ticks everywhere again, then export the files you want to copy, and then add them as new files and commit again. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff At present the model files that are showing ! against them are copies of the model files in the pageWizards / models section of the svn. I created a folder outside of my copy of the svn and then copied the files from the svn into the folder (without the .svn folder). I then reverted the files in the svn to get back to a point with no ! Then I updated to get the latest version and compared the updated files to the copy I had taken. The latest files do not contain the changes I committed. I compared them to my copies using winmerge portable. So I copied and pasted (plain old windows version of copy and paste) my back up copies of the files into the svn and the ! reappeared. Then I tried to commit the changes and a message displayed that there were no changes to commit. I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also hidden stuff in each file as well? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 15:24, Dave Burnett > wrote: How about: Open files in question, copy content to notepad and save new isolated file outside svn folders. Revert files until rid of ! Update from svn to get latest. If you use UltraEdit instead of NotePad (and everyone should) you can do File Compare to see what's different between latest and isolated versions. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Getting a new copy of the svn would fix it, yes, but you?d lose your changes. I?ve found the !s hard to get rid of after some seemingly perfectly legitimate operations have produced them? always try and sort them out before doing anything else, but I?m not deep into Tortoise, so I don?t know how best to approach it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 15:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I did an update before I made any changes. I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around. According to the svn help the ! means The Modified overlay represents the modified state, where you have made local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the repository have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, where a file has been deleted and replaced by another different file with the same name. If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste. The tortoise svn help says You can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to the clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then use TortoiseSVN ? Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or move those items to the new working copy location. "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in a mess." I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new local copy. Would that not sort it out? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney > wrote: Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in a mess. Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the repository (this is important). Always do an update before any commits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 14:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of the xerte svn I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion this can present. There are a few points to note. 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than packaged in an xtp file. 2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"? 3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta. 4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl 5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that needs resolving? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney > wrote: Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as deleted. I think you can ;?move? stuff within the repo though ? That software is pretty clever, I?d be amazed they hadn?t thought of stuff like this? One thing, as a commiter I?m not sure if you can change the project structure, so let me know if you can?t add / remove folders. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 12:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff OK will do. With respect to how turtle svn works If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a new location? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 11:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff The pages only display once you have created a pages project. A word of warning. You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location of the latest rlm and xwd files. The latest files are still in Xerte svn / pageWizards / models Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure Xerte / pages / models Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb The runtime folder has the structure Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the release version expectations 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set of files the better. During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the svn that this would be temporary. I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst development is still taking place. " We need some documentation here." I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have been responsible for. I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Jun 22 16:02:00 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:02:00 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212218@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62121B5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212218@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think this may be particular to Johnathan. I've used UltraEdit using the sequence described to solve that type of issue.It sounds like there is a non-ASCII character being created somewhere.What are you using to save the copy?What are it's default save settings?Straight ASCII? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:57:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also hidden stuff in each file as well?I don?t know, but I know that copying things with simple copy / paste ends up with problems, because the info in the svn folders get?s all screwed up. So I always export anything, add the files as new files and then delete the old files. Try deleting the files, commit, get rid of the errors and get green ticks everywhere again, then export the files you want to copy, and then add them as new files and commit again. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff At present the model files that are showing ! against them are copies of the model files in the pageWizards / models section of the svn. I created a folder outside of my copy of the svn and then copied the files from the svn into the folder (without the .svn folder).I then reverted the files in the svn to get back to a point with no !Then I updated to get the latest version and compared the updated files to the copy I had taken. The latest files do not contain the changes I committed. I compared them to my copies using winmerge portable. So I copied and pasted (plain old windows version of copy and paste) my back up copies of the files into the svn and the ! reappeared. Then I tried to commit the changes and a message displayed that there were no changes to commit. I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also hidden stuff in each file as well? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 15:24, Dave Burnett wrote: How about: Open files in question, copy content to notepad and save new isolated file outside svn folders. Revert files until rid of ! Update from svn to get latest. If you use UltraEdit instead of NotePad (and everyone should) you can do File Compare to see what's different between latest and isolated versions. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuffGetting a new copy of the svn would fix it, yes, but you?d lose your changes. I?ve found the !s hard to get rid of after some seemingly perfectly legitimate operations have produced them? always try and sort them out before doing anything else, but I?m not deep into Tortoise, so I don?t know how best to approach it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 15:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I did an update before I made any changes. I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around. According to the svn help the ! means The Modified overlay represents the modified state, where you have made local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the repository have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, where a file has been deleted and replaced by another different file with the same name. If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste. The tortoise svn help saysYou can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to the clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then use TortoiseSVN ? Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or move those items to the new working copy location. "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in a mess." I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new local copy. Would that not sort it out? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney wrote:Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in a mess. Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the repository (this is important). Always do an update before any commits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 14:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of the xerte svn I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion this can present. There are a few points to note. 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than packaged in an xtp file.2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"?3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta.4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that needs resolving?Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney wrote: Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as deleted. I think you can ;?move? stuff within the repo though ? That software is pretty clever, I?d be amazed they hadn?t thought of stuff like this? One thing, as a commiter I?m not sure if you can change the project structure, so let me know if you can?t add / remove folders. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp JohnathanSent: 22 June 2012 12:01To: For Xerte technical developersSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff OK will do. With respect to how turtle svn works If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a new location? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney wrote:Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp JohnathanSent: 22 June 2012 11:15To: For Xerte technical developersSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff The pages only display once you have created a pages project. A word of warning. You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location of the latest rlm and xwd files. The latest files are still in Xerte svn / pageWizards / modelsXerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure Xerte / pages / modelsXerte / pages / wizards / en-gb The runtime folder has the structure Xerte svn / runtime / pages / modelsXerte svn / runtime / wizards / en This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the release version expectations2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version.I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set of files the better. During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the svn that this would be temporary. I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst development is still taking place. " We need some documentation here." I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have been responsible for. I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney wrote:Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave BurnettSent: 21 June 2012 17:50To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again".I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function?Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.comTo: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.ukSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuffI have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open XerteOpen a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project)Open the wizard for the plain text pageIn the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works)Close the preview.Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works)Close the page wizard form.Open the page wizard form once more.Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place)Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney wrote:It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp JohnathanSent: 21 June 2012 14:28To: For Xerte technical developersSubject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney wrote:Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); }} So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Jun 22 16:07:37 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:07:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62121B5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212218@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The model files I am creating are initially created in Xerte and then finally edited in FlashDevelop. I haven't experienced this problem before with files using exactly the same process. The problem here may be that I have attempted to copy without using export from one svn folder to another. I will try Julian's suggestion of deleting the files and committing and gettng to a point with ticks everywhere and then adding the files using an exported set of files. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 16:02, Dave Burnett wrote: > I think this may be particular to Johnathan. > > I've used UltraEdit using the sequence described to solve that type of > issue. > It sounds like there is a non-ASCII character being created somewhere. > What are you using to save the copy? > What are it's default save settings? > Straight ASCII? > > > ------------------------------ > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:57:20 +0100 > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also > hidden stuff in each file as well? > > I don?t know, but I know that copying things with simple copy / paste ends > up with problems, because the info in the svn folders get?s all screwed up. > So I always export anything, add the files as new files and then delete the > old files. > > > > Try deleting the files, commit, get rid of the errors and get green ticks > everywhere again, then export the files you want to copy, and then add them > as new files and commit again. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 15:55 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > At present the model files that are showing ! against them are copies of > the model files in the pageWizards / models section of the svn. > > > > I created a folder outside of my copy of the svn and then copied the files > from the svn into the folder (without the .svn folder). > > I then reverted the files in the svn to get back to a point with no ! > > Then I updated to get the latest version and compared the updated files to > the copy I had taken. The latest files do not contain the changes I > committed. I compared them to my copies using winmerge portable. > > > > So I copied and pasted (plain old windows version of copy and paste) my > back up copies of the files into the svn and the ! reappeared. Then I tried > to commit the changes and a message displayed that there were no changes to > commit. > > > > I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also > hidden stuff in each file as well? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 15:24, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > How about: > > > > Open files in question, copy content to notepad and save new isolated file > outside svn folders. > > > > Revert files until rid of ! > > > > Update from svn to get latest. > > > > If you use UltraEdit instead of NotePad (and everyone should) you can do > File Compare to see what's different between latest and isolated versions. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:56 +0100 > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > Getting a new copy of the svn would fix it, yes, but you?d lose your > changes. I?ve found the !s hard to get rid of after some seemingly > perfectly legitimate operations have produced them? always try and sort > them out before doing anything else, but I?m not deep into Tortoise, so I > don?t know how best to approach it, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 15:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > I did an update before I made any changes. > > > > I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around. > > > > According to the svn help the ! means > > > > The *Modified* overlay represents the modified state, where you have made > local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the repository > have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, where a file > has been deleted and replaced by another different file with the same name. > > > > If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models > folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in > the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then > right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste. > > > > The tortoise svn help says > > You can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or > between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use > the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to the > clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then use > TortoiseSVN ? Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or move > those items to the new working copy location. > > "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in > a mess." > > > > I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem > with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and > committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new > local copy. Would that not sort it out? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in > a mess. > > > > Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo > otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to > duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the > repository (this is important). > > > > Always do an update before any commits. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 14:07 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of > the xerte svn > > > > I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the > definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. > > > > It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an > installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. > > > > I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer > to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy > that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. > > > > Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated > folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be > confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two > sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion > this can present. > > > > There are a few points to note. > > > > 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / > pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will > be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than > packaged in an xtp file. > > 2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and > in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need > removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also > a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"? > > 3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called > "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta. > > 4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not > up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it > may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? > So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder > into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl > > 5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model > files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that > needs resolving? > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > > Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as > deleted. I think you can ;?move? stuff within the repo though ? That > software is pretty clever, I?d be amazed they hadn?t thought of stuff like > this? > > > > One thing, as a commiter I?m not sure if you can change the project > structure, so let me know if you can?t add / remove folders. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 12:01 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > OK will do. > > > > With respect to how turtle svn works > > > > If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / > > > > and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte > svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , > > > > will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a > new location? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be > an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and > have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 11:15 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > The pages only display once you have created a pages project. > > > > A word of warning. > > > > You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location > of the latest rlm and xwd files. > > > > The latest files are still in > > > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / models > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB > > > > The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure > > > > Xerte / pages / models > > Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb > > > > The runtime folder has the structure > > > > Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models > > Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en > > > > This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that > at present you are likely to hit two problems > > 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the > release version expectations > > 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. > > I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror > the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set > of files the better. > > > > During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the > pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that > section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the > tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have > the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. > > > > It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the > svn that this would be temporary. > > > > I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I > don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst > development is still taking place. > > > > " We need some documentation here." > > > > I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have > been responsible for. > > > > I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages > project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Jun 22 17:24:20 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:24:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212218@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62121B5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212218@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: This is getting stranger. Having failed to get the model files to upload and lose their ! in the /runtime/pages/models/ folder of my svn I finally tried deleting the models folder. I then decided to create a new svn copy. When this completed downloading, as I expected there was no longer the models folder in runtime / pages. However there was also no "thumbs" folder and no "mapstraction" folder. In my new svn copy I created both a runtime / pages / models / folder and a runtime / pages / thumbs / folder. I right clicked on them and did tortoise svn / add. I then exported the thumbs files from my other copy of the svn and then the exported files to my new thumbs folder in my new svn. I then added them in the same way that I added the folders. In the same way I exported the model files from the pageWizards / models folder of the svn and copied the exported files to the newly created runtime / pages / models folder of my new svn copy and then added them. I them committed them. Everything appears to have been transferred back to the svn. The thumbs folder and contents all show green ticks, but the models folder and contents now show Blue plus signs. Then I updated the new svn and all the blue crosses became green ticks, so I am guessing all is now well. But... What is really puzzling me is how it is that my older copy of the svn shows a mapstraction and a thumbs folder with green ticks against them when neither of these folders appear to have been present on the master svn when I created my second copy. I still have my older copy of the svn with the mapstraction folder. The contents of the mapstraction folder are the same as those in my new svn's / templates / pageTemplates / mapstraction / folder, save for some changes to mapstraction.htm. Is it correct that the latest version of mapstraction.htm is in the /templates / pageTemplates / mapstraction / folder. If so I will add this to the runtime pages folder. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 15:57, Julian Tenney wrote: > > I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also > hidden stuff in each file as well? > > I don?t know, but I know that copying things with simple copy / paste ends > up with problems, because the info in the svn folders get?s all screwed up. > So I always export anything, add the files as new files and then delete the > old files. > > > > Try deleting the files, commit, get rid of the errors and get green ticks > everywhere again, then export the files you want to copy, and then add them > as new files and commit again. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 15:55 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > At present the model files that are showing ! against them are copies of > the model files in the pageWizards / models section of the svn. > > > > I created a folder outside of my copy of the svn and then copied the files > from the svn into the folder (without the .svn folder). > > I then reverted the files in the svn to get back to a point with no ! > > Then I updated to get the latest version and compared the updated files to > the copy I had taken. The latest files do not contain the changes I > committed. I compared them to my copies using winmerge portable. > > > > So I copied and pasted (plain old windows version of copy and paste) my > back up copies of the files into the svn and the ! reappeared. Then I tried > to commit the changes and a message displayed that there were no changes to > commit. > > > > I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also > hidden stuff in each file as well? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 15:24, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > How about: > > > > Open files in question, copy content to notepad and save new isolated file > outside svn folders. > > > > Revert files until rid of ! > > > > Update from svn to get latest. > > > > If you use UltraEdit instead of NotePad (and everyone should) you can do > File Compare to see what's different between latest and isolated versions. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:56 +0100 > > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > Getting a new copy of the svn would fix it, yes, but you?d lose your > changes. I?ve found the !s hard to get rid of after some seemingly > perfectly legitimate operations have produced them? always try and sort > them out before doing anything else, but I?m not deep into Tortoise, so I > don?t know how best to approach it, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 15:15 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > I did an update before I made any changes. > > > > I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around. > > > > According to the svn help the ! means > > > > The *Modified* overlay represents the modified state, where you have made > local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the repository > have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, where a file > has been deleted and replaced by another different file with the same name. > > > > If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models > folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in > the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then > right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste. > > > > The tortoise svn help says > > You can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or > between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use > the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to the > clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then use > TortoiseSVN ? Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or move > those items to the new working copy location. > > "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in > a mess." > > > > I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem > with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and > committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new > local copy. Would that not sort it out? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in > a mess. > > > > Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo > otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to > duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the > repository (this is important). > > > > Always do an update before any commits. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 14:07 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of > the xerte svn > > > > I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the > definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. > > > > It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an > installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. > > > > I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer > to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy > that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. > > > > Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated > folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be > confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two > sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion > this can present. > > > > There are a few points to note. > > > > 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / > pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will > be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than > packaged in an xtp file. > > 2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and > in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need > removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also > a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"? > > 3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called > "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta. > > 4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not > up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it > may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? > So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder > into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl > > 5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model > files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that > needs resolving? > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > > Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as > deleted. I think you can ;?move? stuff within the repo though ? That > software is pretty clever, I?d be amazed they hadn?t thought of stuff like > this? > > > > One thing, as a commiter I?m not sure if you can change the project > structure, so let me know if you can?t add / remove folders. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 12:01 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > OK will do. > > > > With respect to how turtle svn works > > > > If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / > > > > and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte > svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , > > > > will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a > new location? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be > an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and > have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 11:15 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > The pages only display once you have created a pages project. > > > > A word of warning. > > > > You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location > of the latest rlm and xwd files. > > > > The latest files are still in > > > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / models > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB > > > > The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure > > > > Xerte / pages / models > > Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb > > > > The runtime folder has the structure > > > > Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models > > Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en > > > > This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that > at present you are likely to hit two problems > > 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the > release version expectations > > 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. > > I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror > the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set > of files the better. > > > > During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the > pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that > section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the > tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have > the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. > > > > It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the > svn that this would be temporary. > > > > I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I > don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst > development is still taking place. > > > > " We need some documentation here." > > > > I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have > been responsible for. > > > > I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages > project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Jun 23 11:46:20 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:46:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62121B5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212218@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have now added the mapstraction folder to the xerte svn / runtime / pages folder. There is only a minor difference between the mapstraction.htm file that I had in my local runtime copy and the one in templates / pageTemplates and the later looks like an update on the version I had, so I am confident the version I had locally is out of date. I have no annoying ! anywhere. So I think all should be well again (with apologies to Julian of Norwich) Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 17:24, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > This is getting stranger. > > Having failed to get the model files to upload and lose their ! in the > /runtime/pages/models/ folder of my svn I finally tried deleting the models > folder. > > I then decided to create a new svn copy. When this completed downloading, > as I expected there was no longer the models folder in runtime / pages. > > However there was also no "thumbs" folder and no "mapstraction" folder. > > In my new svn copy I created both a runtime / pages / models / folder and > a runtime / pages / thumbs / folder. I right clicked on them and did > tortoise svn / add. > > I then exported the thumbs files from my other copy of the svn and then > the exported files to my new thumbs folder in my new svn. I then added them > in the same way that I added the folders. > > In the same way I exported the model files from the pageWizards / models > folder of the svn and copied the exported files to the newly created > runtime / pages / models folder of my new svn copy and then added them. > > I them committed them. Everything appears to have been transferred back to > the svn. The thumbs folder and contents all show green ticks, but the > models folder and contents now show Blue plus signs. > > Then I updated the new svn and all the blue crosses became green ticks, so > I am guessing all is now well. > > But... > > What is really puzzling me is how it is that my older copy of the svn > shows a mapstraction and a thumbs folder with green ticks against them when > neither of these folders appear to have been present on the master svn when > I created my second copy. > > I still have my older copy of the svn with the mapstraction folder. The > contents of the mapstraction folder are the same as those in my new svn's > / templates / pageTemplates / mapstraction / folder, save for some changes > to mapstraction.htm. > > Is it correct that the latest version of mapstraction.htm is in the > /templates / pageTemplates / mapstraction / folder. If so I will add this > to the runtime pages folder. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 22 June 2012 15:57, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> > I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also >> hidden stuff in each file as well? >> >> I don?t know, but I know that copying things with simple copy / paste >> ends up with problems, because the info in the svn folders get?s all >> screwed up. So I always export anything, add the files as new files and >> then delete the old files. >> >> >> >> Try deleting the files, commit, get rid of the errors and get green ticks >> everywhere again, then export the files you want to copy, and then add them >> as new files and commit again. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 15:55 >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> At present the model files that are showing ! against them are copies of >> the model files in the pageWizards / models section of the svn. >> >> >> >> I created a folder outside of my copy of the svn and then copied the >> files from the svn into the folder (without the .svn folder). >> >> I then reverted the files in the svn to get back to a point with no ! >> >> Then I updated to get the latest version and compared the updated files >> to the copy I had taken. The latest files do not contain the changes I >> committed. I compared them to my copies using winmerge portable. >> >> >> >> So I copied and pasted (plain old windows version of copy and paste) my >> back up copies of the files into the svn and the ! reappeared. Then I tried >> to commit the changes and a message displayed that there were no changes to >> commit. >> >> >> >> I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also >> hidden stuff in each file as well? >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 22 June 2012 15:24, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> >> >> How about: >> >> >> >> Open files in question, copy content to notepad and save new isolated >> file outside svn folders. >> >> >> >> Revert files until rid of ! >> >> >> >> Update from svn to get latest. >> >> >> >> If you use UltraEdit instead of NotePad (and everyone should) you can do >> File Compare to see what's different between latest and isolated versions. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:56 +0100 >> >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> Getting a new copy of the svn would fix it, yes, but you?d lose your >> changes. I?ve found the !s hard to get rid of after some seemingly >> perfectly legitimate operations have produced them? always try and sort >> them out before doing anything else, but I?m not deep into Tortoise, so I >> don?t know how best to approach it, >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 15:15 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> I did an update before I made any changes. >> >> >> >> I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around. >> >> >> >> According to the svn help the ! means >> >> >> >> The *Modified* overlay represents the modified state, where you have >> made local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the >> repository have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, >> where a file has been deleted and replaced by another different file with >> the same name. >> >> >> >> If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models >> folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in >> the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then >> right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste. >> >> >> >> The tortoise svn help says >> >> You can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or >> between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use >> the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to the >> clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then use >> TortoiseSVN ? Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or move >> those items to the new working copy location. >> >> "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get >> in a mess." >> >> >> >> I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem >> with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and >> committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new >> local copy. Would that not sort it out? >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in >> a mess. >> >> >> >> Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo >> otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to >> duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the >> repository (this is important). >> >> >> >> Always do an update before any commits. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 14:07 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of >> the xerte svn >> >> >> >> I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the >> definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. >> >> >> >> It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an >> installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. >> >> >> >> I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer >> to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy >> that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. >> >> >> >> Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated >> folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be >> confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two >> sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion >> this can present. >> >> >> >> There are a few points to note. >> >> >> >> 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / >> pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will >> be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than >> packaged in an xtp file. >> >> 2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages >> and in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that >> need removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is >> also a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"? >> >> 3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called >> "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta. >> >> 4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is >> not up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So >> it may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the >> repository? So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta >> nl-nl folder into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl >> >> 5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model >> files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that >> needs resolving? >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files >> as deleted. I think you can ;?move? stuff within the repo though ? That >> software is pretty clever, I?d be amazed they hadn?t thought of stuff like >> this? >> >> >> >> One thing, as a commiter I?m not sure if you can change the project >> structure, so let me know if you can?t add / remove folders. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> >> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 12:01 >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> OK will do. >> >> >> >> With respect to how turtle svn works >> >> >> >> If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards >> / >> >> >> >> and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the >> xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder >> , >> >> >> >> will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a >> new location? >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be >> an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and >> have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> >> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 11:15 >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> The pages only display once you have created a pages project. >> >> >> >> A word of warning. >> >> >> >> You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location >> of the latest rlm and xwd files. >> >> >> >> The latest files are still in >> >> >> >> Xerte svn / pageWizards / models >> >> Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB >> >> >> >> The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure >> >> >> >> Xerte / pages / models >> >> Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb >> >> >> >> The runtime folder has the structure >> >> >> >> Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models >> >> Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en >> >> >> >> This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that >> at present you are likely to hit two problems >> >> 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the >> release version expectations >> >> 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. >> >> I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror >> the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set >> of files the better. >> >> >> >> During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the >> pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that >> section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the >> tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have >> the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. >> >> >> >> It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the >> svn that this would be temporary. >> >> >> >> I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I >> don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst >> development is still taking place. >> >> >> >> " We need some documentation here." >> >> >> >> I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have >> been responsible for. >> >> >> >> I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages >> project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t >> I see all the pages on the menu? >> >> >> >> Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? >> >> >> >> We need some documentation here. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett >> >> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 >> >> *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / >> Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops >> working - no idea why. >> >> >> >> Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not >> being initialized? >> >> >> >> I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run >> this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". >> >> I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want >> executed each time* inside that condition. >> >> >> >> So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? >> >> Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through >> multiple View/Preview cycles? >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 >> >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn >> runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the >> problem does not appear to be fixed. >> >> >> >> However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. >> >> >> >> Open Xerte >> >> Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been >> added to the default project) >> >> Open the wizard for the plain text page >> >> In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview >> works) >> >> Close the preview. >> >> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) >> >> Close the page wizard form. >> >> Open the page wizard form once more. >> >> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) >> >> Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. >> >> >> >> It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / >> Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops >> working - no idea why. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for >> ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> >> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> Re: the preview link >> >> >> >> Which file would this relate to editor.swf? >> >> >> >> I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. >> >> >> >> If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest >> version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the >> spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: >> I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? >> >> >> >> Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything >> wrong with this??? 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 25 12:05:15 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:05:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211FE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212063@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621212A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62121B5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6212218@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E262D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I don?t know either. I?m updating my SVN and see a;; the changes you made taking place, so hopefully, we?re all OK again? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 17:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff This is getting stranger. Having failed to get the model files to upload and lose their ! in the /runtime/pages/models/ folder of my svn I finally tried deleting the models folder. I then decided to create a new svn copy. When this completed downloading, as I expected there was no longer the models folder in runtime / pages. However there was also no "thumbs" folder and no "mapstraction" folder. In my new svn copy I created both a runtime / pages / models / folder and a runtime / pages / thumbs / folder. I right clicked on them and did tortoise svn / add. I then exported the thumbs files from my other copy of the svn and then the exported files to my new thumbs folder in my new svn. I then added them in the same way that I added the folders. In the same way I exported the model files from the pageWizards / models folder of the svn and copied the exported files to the newly created runtime / pages / models folder of my new svn copy and then added them. I them committed them. Everything appears to have been transferred back to the svn. The thumbs folder and contents all show green ticks, but the models folder and contents now show Blue plus signs. Then I updated the new svn and all the blue crosses became green ticks, so I am guessing all is now well. But... What is really puzzling me is how it is that my older copy of the svn shows a mapstraction and a thumbs folder with green ticks against them when neither of these folders appear to have been present on the master svn when I created my second copy. I still have my older copy of the svn with the mapstraction folder. The contents of the mapstraction folder are the same as those in my new svn's / templates / pageTemplates / mapstraction / folder, save for some changes to mapstraction.htm. Is it correct that the latest version of mapstraction.htm is in the /templates / pageTemplates / mapstraction / folder. If so I will add this to the runtime pages folder. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 15:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also hidden stuff in each file as well? I don?t know, but I know that copying things with simple copy / paste ends up with problems, because the info in the svn folders get?s all screwed up. So I always export anything, add the files as new files and then delete the old files. Try deleting the files, commit, get rid of the errors and get green ticks everywhere again, then export the files you want to copy, and then add them as new files and commit again. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 15:55 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff At present the model files that are showing ! against them are copies of the model files in the pageWizards / models section of the svn. I created a folder outside of my copy of the svn and then copied the files from the svn into the folder (without the .svn folder). I then reverted the files in the svn to get back to a point with no ! Then I updated to get the latest version and compared the updated files to the copy I had taken. The latest files do not contain the changes I committed. I compared them to my copies using winmerge portable. So I copied and pasted (plain old windows version of copy and paste) my back up copies of the files into the svn and the ! reappeared. Then I tried to commit the changes and a message displayed that there were no changes to commit. I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also hidden stuff in each file as well? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 15:24, Dave Burnett > wrote: How about: Open files in question, copy content to notepad and save new isolated file outside svn folders. Revert files until rid of ! Update from svn to get latest. If you use UltraEdit instead of NotePad (and everyone should) you can do File Compare to see what's different between latest and isolated versions. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Getting a new copy of the svn would fix it, yes, but you?d lose your changes. I?ve found the !s hard to get rid of after some seemingly perfectly legitimate operations have produced them? always try and sort them out before doing anything else, but I?m not deep into Tortoise, so I don?t know how best to approach it, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 15:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I did an update before I made any changes. I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around. According to the svn help the ! means The Modified overlay represents the modified state, where you have made local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the repository have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, where a file has been deleted and replaced by another different file with the same name. If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste. The tortoise svn help says You can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to the clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then use TortoiseSVN ? Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or move those items to the new working copy location. "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in a mess." I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new local copy. Would that not sort it out? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney > wrote: Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you?re gonna get in a mess. Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the repository (this is important). Always do an update before any commits. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 14:07 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of the xerte svn I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files. It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder. I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder. Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion this can present. There are a few points to note. 1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates / pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than packaged in an xtp file. 2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"? 3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta. 4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl 5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that needs resolving? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney > wrote: Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as deleted. I think you can ;?move? stuff within the repo though ? That software is pretty clever, I?d be amazed they hadn?t thought of stuff like this? One thing, as a commiter I?m not sure if you can change the project structure, so let me know if you can?t add / remove folders. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 12:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff OK will do. With respect to how turtle svn works If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder , will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a new location? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and have a developer?s xerte run on your machines for testing etc, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 June 2012 11:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff The pages only display once you have created a pages project. A word of warning. You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location of the latest rlm and xwd files. The latest files are still in Xerte svn / pageWizards / models Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure Xerte / pages / models Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb The runtime folder has the structure Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the release version expectations 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set of files the better. During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the definitive source of all files. It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the svn that this would be temporary. I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst development is still taking place. " We need some documentation here." I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have been responsible for. I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney wrote: > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 25 14:37:17 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:37:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in /runtime, possibly even a link to it on the help menu, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 June 2012 14:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects to the Page Wizards / supporting documents section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff at present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere for now. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things - let's get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Jun 25 14:40:58 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:40:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office format and in pdf. This is so that an editable version is available for translation or updating. So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open office source files kept elsewhere? Kind regards Johnathan On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney wrote: > Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in /runtime, > possibly even a link to it on the help menu, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > > > I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects to the > > > > Page Wizards / supporting documents > > > > section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff at > present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere for now. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jun 25 14:43:41 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:43:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Sounds good, yes. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 June 2012 14:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office format and in pdf. This is so that an editable version is available for translation or updating. So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open office source files kept elsewhere? Kind regards Johnathan On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney > wrote: Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in /runtime, possibly even a link to it on the help menu, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 June 2012 14:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects to the Page Wizards / supporting documents section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff at present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere for now. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things - let's get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Tue Jun 26 00:17:07 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (Jose Diaz) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela Message-ID: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi guys. Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. The agenda is as follows: 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. 2. Available resources: The Community. 3. My First Project with XOT. 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. 5. Translating to spanish XOT. 6. Change how LO looks like. Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk How can I enable spanish language from language folder? Does the xertetrans link work now? Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html Is this info useful yet? I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over XOT. The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT capabilities and push the use in latin american people. Thanks a lot. Jos?. -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Jun 26 00:34:25 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say es-vn (or your own code). Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the language folder relates to a page on the site. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: > Hi guys. > > Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. > > The agenda is as follows: > > 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. > 2. Available resources: The Community. > 3. My First Project with XOT. > 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. > 5. Translating to spanish XOT. > 6. Change how LO looks like. > > Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout > http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ > xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only > > Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? > > In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish > but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish > language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the > translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk > > How can I enable spanish language from language folder? > > Does the xertetrans link work now? > > Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: > http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html > > Is this info useful yet? > > I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over XOT. > > The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions > (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT > capabilities and push the use in latin american people. > > Thanks a lot. > > Jos?. > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Tue Jun 26 01:38:52 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:38:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. Take care. Jos?. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Lockley Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical developers Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say es-vn (or your own code). Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the language folder relates to a page on the site. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: > Hi guys. > > Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. > > The agenda is as follows: > > 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. > 2. Available resources: The Community. > 3. My First Project with XOT. > 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. > 5. Translating to spanish XOT. > 6. Change how LO looks like. > > Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout > http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ > xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only > > Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? > > In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish > but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish > language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the > translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk > > How can I enable spanish language from language folder? > > Does the xertetrans link work now? > > Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: > http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html > > Is this info useful yet? > > I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over XOT. > > The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions > (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT > capabilities and push the use in latin american people. > > Thanks a lot. > > Jos?. > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Jun 26 09:21:04 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:21:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: The website XOT is stable. I think the trunk is stable enough. I don't think the website XOT can be translated fully. config.php has a $_SESSION variable for language On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda wrote: > Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. > > Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? > > What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? > > I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. > > Take care. > > Jos?. > > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley > Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 > To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical developers > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. > > To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say > es-vn (or your own code). > > Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the > language folder relates to a page on the site. > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: >> Hi guys. >> >> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >> >> The agenda is as follows: >> >> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >> 2. Available resources: The Community. >> 3. My First Project with XOT. >> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >> 6. Change how LO looks like. >> >> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >> >> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >> >> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish >> but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish >> language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the >> translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >> >> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >> >> Does the xertetrans link work now? >> >> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >> >> Is this info useful yet? >> >> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over XOT. >> >> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT >> capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >> >> Thanks a lot. >> >> Jos?. >> >> -- >> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >> Skype: xt4mhz >> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 26 10:53:20 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:53:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2BAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I didn't realise you were in Venezuela: I visited Caracas a few years ago, really enjoyed it. Merida in the mountains was lovely. I've always fancied organising a Xerte conference on the island of Tobago - which is possibly one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen - maybe we should work on that! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jose Diaz Sent: 26 June 2012 00:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela Hi guys. Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. The agenda is as follows: 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. 2. Available resources: The Community. 3. My First Project with XOT. 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. 5. Translating to spanish XOT. 6. Change how LO looks like. Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk How can I enable spanish language from language folder? Does the xertetrans link work now? Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html Is this info useful yet? I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over XOT. The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT capabilities and push the use in latin american people. Thanks a lot. Jos?. -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 26 14:21:58 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:21:58 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FE9B776.8030801@tor.nl> Only the latest (to be released) version of XOT, the website itself can be translated. However in the stable xot you can add a Spanish translation of the runtime. You can find that in the language folder of the xot installation. You have to modify the template to load the proper language file though. Furthermore, the latest xot can be translated using the http://xertetrans.xerte.uk.org website. It allows you to maintain the translation of both the xot website and also of the models. Op 26-6-2012 1:17, Jose Diaz schreef: > Hi guys. > > Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. > > The agenda is as follows: > > 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. > 2. Available resources: The Community. > 3. My First Project with XOT. > 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. > 5. Translating to spanish XOT. > 6. Change how LO looks like. > > Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout > http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ > xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only > > Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? > > In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to > spanish but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable > the spanish language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link > to work on the translation to spanish (guest-guest): > xertetrans.xerte.org.uk > > How can I enable spanish language from language folder? > > Does the xertetrans link work now? > > Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: > http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html > > Is this info useful yet? > > I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over > XOT. > > The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions > (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show > XOT capabilities and push the use in latin american people. > > Thanks a lot. > > Jos?. > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 26 14:27:11 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:27:11 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Recent updates to model files In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621164C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF621164C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FE9B8AF.3040703@tor.nl> Ehmm... it should NOT be in there. It should be put in at run-time, but the template files should NOT contain that item. What happen is the following: When creating a new project, the 'blank' files are copied to the proper place (without the language attribute), and when the editor is first started, it checks whther the attribute is available or not. When available, the language (of the wizard) is set accordingly. If not set, it wil set it to the current selected language. So, if the attribute is in the 'blank' templates, you will never be able to create a Dutch project. Tom Op 20-6-2012 12:45, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Ah, sorry, the en-GB, I have no idea, I don't think I put that in there. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 20 June 2012 11:34 > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Recent updates to model files > > I have just refreshed my Xerte svn copy and noticed that updates have > taken place to the following models > > columnPage.rlm > > buttonNav.rlm > > slideshow.rlm > > accNav.rlm > > tabNav.rlm > > Are the changes to the tabNav.rlm page related to accessibility > issues, or are they simply enhancements to the pages? I used the > tabNav.rlm model as the basis for the tabNav Connector page. So if > there were accessibility issues with the model then I may need to get > my head around the recent changes to consider the need for changes to > the tabNav Connector model. > > Also I notice that the first line of the model file includes > > language="en-GB" > > Is this an error or is this now a requirement in the model files? > > I thought the model files were language independent, the > internationalisation being handled by selection of the appropriate xwd > file set. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 26 14:30:39 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:30:39 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FE9B97F.6050901@tor.nl> Currently it checks whether an .rlo is the current file. If not (for example when editing an .rlm or .rlt) the pages should NOT appear, as they don't make any sense in that context. But we can change that of course. Op 22-6-2012 9:57, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why > don't I see all the pages on the menu? > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave > Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View > / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option > stops working - no idea why. > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview > windows not being initialized? > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run > this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through > multiple View/Preview cycles? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the > preview works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View > / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option > stops working - no idea why. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > Re: the preview link > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at > the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in > the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just > need rebuilding? > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything > wrong with this??? > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > Last few things -- let's get this finished now, > > J > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Op 22-6-2012 13:00, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > OK will do. > > With respect to how turtle svn works > > If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / > wizards / > > and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the > xerte svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb > folder , > > will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are > in a new location? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it > should be an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily > run the exe and have a developer's xerte run on your machines for > testing etc, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 June 2012 11:15 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > The pages only display once you have created a pages project. > > A word of warning. > > You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the > location of the latest rlm and xwd files. > > The latest files are still in > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / models > > Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB > > The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure > > Xerte / pages / models > > Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb > > The runtime folder has the structure > > Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models > > Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en > > This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime > folder that at present you are likely to hit two problems > > 1.The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the > release version expectations > > 2.Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version. > > I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to > mirror the release version, with the same folder structure and the > most recent set of files the better. > > During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the > pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in > that section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next > version part of the tidying up process must be to retire the > pageWizards section and to have the runtime section as the > definitive source of all files. > > It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder > in the svn that this would be temporary. > > I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so > because I don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause > any confusion whilst development is still taking place. > > " We need some documentation here." > > I have put some documentation together for the new page types that > I have been responsible for. > > I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages > project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why > don't I see all the pages on the menu? > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do > View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu > option stops working - no idea why. > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview > windows not being initialized? > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already > run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do > want executed each time* inside that condition. > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through > multiple View/Preview cycles? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and > the problem does not appear to be fixed. > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had > been added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the > preview works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do > View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu > option stops working - no idea why. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > Re: the preview link > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the > latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Hi, > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked > at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages > wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library > so it might just need rebuilding? > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see > anything wrong with this??? > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > Last few things -- let's get this finished now, > > J > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 26 14:36:30 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:36:30 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FE9BADE.3030300@tor.nl> I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk website code. It depends on where the files are. I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from a different place now. I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. Tom Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sounds good, yes. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:41 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office format > and in pdf. > > This is so that an editable version is available for translation or > updating. > > So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open office > source files kept elsewhere? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in /runtime, > possibly even a link to it on the help menu, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects to the > > Page Wizards / supporting documents > > section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff at > present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere for now. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why > don't I see all the pages on the menu? > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Dave > Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View > / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option > stops working - no idea why. > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview > windows not being initialized? > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run > this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through > multiple View/Preview cycles? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the > preview works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View > / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option > stops working - no idea why. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > Re: the preview link > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at > the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in > the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just > need rebuilding? > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything > wrong with this??? > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > Last few things -- let's get this finished now, > > J > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are now made? Kind regards Johnathan On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders wrote: > I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk website code. It depends on > where the files are. > I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from a > different place now. > I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. > > Tom > > Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sounds good, yes. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:41 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office format and > in pdf. > > > > This is so that an editable version is available for translation or > updating. > > > > So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open office source > files kept elsewhere? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in /runtime, > possibly even a link to it on the help menu, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > > > I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects to the > > > > Page Wizards / supporting documents > > > > section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff at > present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere for now. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? 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If not (for example when editing an .rlm or .rlt) the pages should NOT appear, as they don't make any sense in that context. But we can change that of course. Op 22-6-2012 9:57, Julian Tenney schreef: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things - let's get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 26 15:50:16 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:50:16 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FE9BADE.3030300@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FE9CC28.5030707@tor.nl> As far as I am concerned, there should only be ONE place. I don't care where it is, the pageWizards or the runtime, but not BOTH. That's a nightmare. So, yes, I propose to declare the pageWizards folder as deprecated. If it were up to me, I would delete it from svn (you can always go back by checking out the correct revision). In that way in a clean, new checkout, you would not see the pageWizards folder anymore. Having it in 'runtime' clearly has benefits over having the files in pageWizards. Tom Op 26-6-2012 16:42, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place as I did > not want to cause any issues with anything you might be doing Tom. > > "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files > from a different place now." > > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files > in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future > changes are now made? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk > website code. It depends on where > the files are. > I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files > from a different place now. > I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. > > Tom > > Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Sounds good, yes. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of >> *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:41 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office >> format and in pdf. >> >> This is so that an editable version is available for translation >> or updating. >> >> So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open >> office source files kept elsewhere? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in >> /runtime, possibly even a link to it on the help menu, >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf Of >> *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? >> >> We need some documentation here. >> >> I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects >> to the >> >> Page Wizards / supporting documents >> >> section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff >> at present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere >> for now. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, >> why don't I see all the pages on the menu? >> >> Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? >> >> We need some documentation here. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf Of >> *Dave Burnett >> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 >> >> >> *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do >> View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu >> option stops working - no idea why. >> >> Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview >> windows not being initialized? >> >> I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already >> run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". >> >> I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do >> want executed each time* inside that condition. >> >> So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to >> function? >> >> Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through >> multiple View/Preview cycles? >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn >> runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation >> and the problem does not appear to be fixed. >> >> However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. >> >> Open Xerte >> >> Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had >> been added to the default project) >> >> Open the wizard for the plain text page >> >> In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the >> preview works) >> >> Close the preview. >> >> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) >> >> Close the page wizard form. >> >> Open the page wizard form once more. >> >> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) >> >> Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. >> >> It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do >> View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu >> option stops working - no idea why. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for >> 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf Of >> *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> Re: the preview link >> >> Which file would this relate to editor.swf? >> >> I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. >> >> If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the >> latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just >> looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new >> pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor >> library so it might just need rebuilding? >> >> Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see >> anything wrong with this??? >> >> viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { >> >> if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == >> languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { >> >> preview(); >> >> } >> >> } >> >> So not sure if this I still an issue? >> >> Last few things -- let's get this finished now, >> >> J >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 26 15:49:09 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:49:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FE9BADE.3030300@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E3E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are now made? I'm treating runtime/pages/models as the definitive set. I tend to develop in \templates\pageTemplates, copying models into there from /runtime/pages/models, then copying them back / into toolkits etc. When we do a build we also need to zip up the xtps with the new models in. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 June 2012 15:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place as I did not want to cause any issues with anything you might be doing Tom. "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from a different place now." Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are now made? Kind regards Johnathan On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders > wrote: I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk website code. It depends on where the files are. I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from a different place now. I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. Tom Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: Sounds good, yes. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 June 2012 14:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office format and in pdf. This is so that an editable version is available for translation or updating. So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open office source files kept elsewhere? Kind regards Johnathan On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney > wrote: Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in /runtime, possibly even a link to it on the help menu, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 June 2012 14:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects to the Page Wizards / supporting documents section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff at present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere for now. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things - let's get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 26 15:55:14 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:55:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E3E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FE9BADE.3030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E3E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E55@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hang on, scrambled my paths there, but no matter. I'll let Jonathan delete once he's got everything out of there he needs to. Yes, let's delete the /pageWizards folder. Definitive one is runtime/pages/models. They all look up to date to me. Jonathan, can you delete /pageWizards when you're ready? Nice one. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 June 2012 15:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are now made? I'm treating runtime/pages/models as the definitive set. I tend to develop in \templates\pageTemplates, copying models into there from /runtime/pages/models, then copying them back / into toolkits etc. When we do a build we also need to zip up the xtps with the new models in. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 June 2012 15:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place as I did not want to cause any issues with anything you might be doing Tom. "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from a different place now." Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are now made? Kind regards Johnathan On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders > wrote: I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk website code. It depends on where the files are. I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from a different place now. I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. Tom Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: Sounds good, yes. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 June 2012 14:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office format and in pdf. This is so that an editable version is available for translation or updating. So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open office source files kept elsewhere? Kind regards Johnathan On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney > wrote: Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in /runtime, possibly even a link to it on the help menu, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 June 2012 14:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects to the Page Wizards / supporting documents section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff at present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere for now. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see anything wrong with this??? viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { preview(); } } So not sure if this I still an issue? Last few things - let's get this finished now, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 26 17:04:12 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 17:04:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E55@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FE9BADE.3030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E3E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E55@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'll start tidying up the svn shortly. "Hmmm, please make it en-GB. The fact that you have en-gb, is because you had an old folder from an old install, and for all purposes, for Windows en-GB and en-gb is the same, so the new installer will NOT rename it." Just to be clear on upper and lower case, does the above mean I need to rename the folders as below? runtime/pages/wizards/ en-gb to en-GB nl-nl to nl-NL Kind regards Johnathan On 26 June 2012 15:55, Julian Tenney wrote: > Hang on, scrambled my paths there, but no matter. I?ll let Jonathan delete > once he?s got everything out of there he needs to. > > > > Yes, let?s delete the /pageWizards folder. Definitive one is > runtime/pages/models. They all look up to date to me. Jonathan, can you > delete /pageWizards when you?re ready? > > > > Nice one. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:49 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in > the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are > now made? > > > > I?m treating runtime/pages/models as the definitive set. I tend to develop > in \templates\pageTemplates, copying models into there from > /runtime/pages/models, then copying them back / into toolkits etc. When we > do a build we also need to zip up the xtps with the new models in. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:43 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place as I did not > want to cause any issues with anything you might be doing Tom. > > > > "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from > a different place now." > > > > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in > the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are > now made? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk website code. It depends on where > the files are. > I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from a > different place now. > I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. > > Tom > > Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sounds good, yes. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:41 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office format and > in pdf. > > > > This is so that an editable version is available for translation or > updating. > > > > So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open office source > files kept elsewhere? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in /runtime, > possibly even a link to it on the help menu, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > > > I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects to the > > > > Page Wizards / supporting documents > > > > section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff at > present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere for now. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? > > > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > > > Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, > > > > J > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 June 2012 17:04 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I'll start tidying up the svn shortly. "Hmmm, please make it en-GB. The fact that you have en-gb, is because you had an old folder from an old install, and for all purposes, for Windows en-GB and en-gb is the same, so the new installer will NOT rename it." Just to be clear on upper and lower case, does the above mean I need to rename the folders as below? runtime/pages/wizards/ en-gb to en-GB nl-nl to nl-NL Kind regards Johnathan On 26 June 2012 15:55, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hang on, scrambled my paths there, but no matter. I'll let Jonathan delete once he's got everything out of there he needs to. Yes, let's delete the /pageWizards folder. Definitive one is runtime/pages/models. They all look up to date to me. Jonathan, can you delete /pageWizards when you're ready? Nice one. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 June 2012 15:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are now made? I'm treating runtime/pages/models as the definitive set. I tend to develop in \templates\pageTemplates, copying models into there from /runtime/pages/models, then copying them back / into toolkits etc. When we do a build we also need to zip up the xtps with the new models in. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 June 2012 15:43 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place as I did not want to cause any issues with anything you might be doing Tom. "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from a different place now." Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are now made? Kind regards Johnathan On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders > wrote: I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk website code. It depends on where the files are. I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from a different place now. I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. Tom Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: Sounds good, yes. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 June 2012 14:41 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office format and in pdf. This is so that an editable version is available for translation or updating. So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open office source files kept elsewhere? Kind regards Johnathan On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney > wrote: Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in /runtime, possibly even a link to it on the help menu, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 25 June 2012 14:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects to the Page Wizards / supporting documents section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff at present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere for now. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the menu? Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? We need some documentation here. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 June 2012 17:50 To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not being initialized? I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple View/Preview cycles? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. Open Xerte Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been added to the default project) Open the wizard for the plain text page In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview works) Close the preview. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) Close the page wizard form. Open the page wizard form once more. Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 June 2012 14:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff Re: the preview link Which file would this relate to editor.swf? I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hi, I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 26 18:14:40 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 18:14:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2F1A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FE9BADE.3030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E3E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E55@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2F1A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have completed most of the tidying up of the runtime and pageWizards folders. As mentioned in an earlier post the nl-nl folder in pageWizards appears to be out of date when compared to the nl-nl folder in the desktop beta, so the new runtime nl_NL folder contains files from the desktop beta. However temporarily I have left the pageWizards nl-nl file intact just in case there is anything in there that Tom needs. The only current duplication with respect to the Xerte svn is the duplication of model files in svn / runtime/pages/models and svn / templates / pageTemplates / models Note: It will be possible in the next release to generate the pageTemplates project from the model files without the need to package an xtp file so the model files in runtime / pages / models will be the definitive set of model files. If there is a need to modify the files in the pageTemplates / models folders prior to the release of the next version then any changes will need to be replicated appropriately in the runtime / pages / models equivalent file. You are all probably fully aware of this but there is no harm in re-stating this :-) No one wants things to get out of synch at this late stage of the proceedings. Kind regards Johnathan The pageTemplates / models remain in the form that lacks [projPI] so if these files On 26 June 2012 17:23, Julian Tenney wrote: > Might as well be consistent. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 26 June 2012 17:04 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > I'll start tidying up the svn shortly. > > > > "Hmmm, please make it en-GB. The fact that you have en-gb, is because you > had an old folder from an old install, and for all purposes, for Windows > en-GB and en-gb is the same, so the new installer will NOT rename it." > > > > Just to be clear on upper and lower case, does the above mean I need to > rename the folders as below? > > > > runtime/pages/wizards/ > > > > en-gb to en-GB > > nl-nl to nl-NL > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 26 June 2012 15:55, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hang on, scrambled my paths there, but no matter. I?ll let Jonathan delete > once he?s got everything out of there he needs to. > > > > Yes, let?s delete the /pageWizards folder. Definitive one is > runtime/pages/models. They all look up to date to me. Jonathan, can you > delete /pageWizards when you?re ready? > > > > Nice one. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:49 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in > the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are > now made? > > > > I?m treating runtime/pages/models as the definitive set. I tend to develop > in \templates\pageTemplates, copying models into there from > /runtime/pages/models, then copying them back / into toolkits etc. When we > do a build we also need to zip up the xtps with the new models in. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:43 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place as I did not > want to cause any issues with anything you might be doing Tom. > > > > "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from > a different place now." > > > > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in > the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are > now made? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk website code. It depends on where > the files are. > I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from a > different place now. > I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. > > Tom > > Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sounds good, yes. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:41 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office format and > in pdf. > > > > This is so that an editable version is available for translation or > updating. > > > > So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open office source > files kept elsewhere? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in /runtime, > possibly even a link to it on the help menu, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > > > I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects to the > > > > Page Wizards / supporting documents > > > > section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff at > present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere for now. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t I > see all the pages on the menu? > > > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? > > > > We need some documentation here. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not > being initialized? > > > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this > logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want > executed each time* inside that condition. > > > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple > View/Preview cycles? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the > problem does not appear to be fixed. > > > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been > added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview > works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / > Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops > working - no idea why. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for > ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > > Re: the preview link > > > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. > > > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest > version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the > spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: > I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? > > > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything wrong > with this??? 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 26 18:55:21 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 19:55:21 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211CB8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FE9BADE.3030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E3E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E55@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FE9F789.2030101@tor.nl> Yes, please. Op 26-6-2012 18:04, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > I'll start tidying up the svn shortly. > > "Hmmm, please make it en-GB. The fact that you have en-gb, is because > you had an old folder from an old install, and for all purposes, for > Windows en-GB and en-gb is the same, so the new installer will NOT > rename it." > > Just to be clear on upper and lower case, does the above mean I need > to rename the folders as below? > > runtime/pages/wizards/ > > en-gb to en-GB > nl-nl to nl-NL > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 26 June 2012 15:55, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hang on, scrambled my paths there, but no matter. I'll let > Jonathan delete once he's got everything out of there he needs to. > > Yes, let's delete the /pageWizards folder. Definitive one is > runtime/pages/models. They all look up to date to me. Jonathan, > can you delete /pageWizards when you're ready? > > Nice one. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:49 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd > files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any > future changes are now made? > > I'm treating runtime/pages/models as the definitive set. I tend to > develop in \templates\pageTemplates, copying models into there > from /runtime/pages/models, then copying them back / into toolkits > etc. When we do a build we also need to zip up the xtps with the > new models in. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:43 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place as I > did not want to cause any issues with anything you might be doing Tom. > > "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the > files from a different place now." > > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd > files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any > future changes are now made? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk > website code. It depends on where > the files are. > I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files > from a different place now. > I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. > > Tom > > Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sounds good, yes. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:41 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office > format and in pdf. > > This is so that an editable version is available for > translation or updating. > > So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open > office source files kept elsewhere? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in > /runtime, possibly even a link to it on the help menu, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / > add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page > Projects to the > > Page Wizards / supporting documents > > section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this > stuff at present so I guess its current location is as good as > anywhere for now. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, > why don't I see all the pages on the menu? > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / > add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and > do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview > menu option stops working - no idea why. > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview > windows not being initialized? > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've > already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I > do want executed each time* inside that condition. > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to > function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run > through multiple View/Preview cycles? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation > and the problem does not appear to be fixed. > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that > had been added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - > the preview works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take > place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and > do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview > menu option stops working - no idea why. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search > for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > Re: the preview link > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 26 19:04:16 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:04:16 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FE9BADE.3030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E3E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E55@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2F1A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FE9F9A0.40805@tor.nl> Johnathan, Thank you. A couple of remarks: The language files (not only the nl-NL, but all language files) are generated by xertrans.xerte.org.uk from the en-GB files. So I'd rather not have them in svn as well. So: 1. you can delete the nl-nl folder as well. 2. you can delete the runtime nl_NL/nl-NL folder too. 3. I hope the new runtime en-GB is that and not en_GB Which one of the models folders will be leading? Tom Op 26-6-2012 19:14, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > I have completed most of the tidying up of the runtime and pageWizards > folders. > > As mentioned in an earlier post the nl-nl folder in pageWizards > appears to be out of date when compared to the nl-nl folder in the > desktop beta, so the new runtime nl_NL folder contains files from the > desktop beta. However temporarily I have left the pageWizards nl-nl > file intact just in case there is anything in there that Tom needs. > > The only current duplication with respect to the Xerte svn is the > duplication of model files in > > svn / runtime/pages/models > > and > > svn / templates / pageTemplates / models > > Note: It will be possible in the next release to generate the > pageTemplates project from the model files without the need to package > an xtp file so the model files in runtime / pages / models will be the > definitive set of model files. If there is a need to modify the files > in the pageTemplates / models folders prior to the release of the next > version then any changes will need to be replicated appropriately in > the runtime / pages / models equivalent file. > > You are all probably fully aware of this but there is no harm in > re-stating this :-) > No one wants things to get out of synch at this late stage of the > proceedings. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > The pageTemplates / models remain in the form that lacks [projPI] so > if these files > > > > On 26 June 2012 17:23, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Might as well be consistent. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 26 June 2012 17:04 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I'll start tidying up the svn shortly. > > "Hmmm, please make it en-GB. The fact that you have en-gb, is > because you had an old folder from an old install, and for all > purposes, for Windows en-GB and en-gb is the same, so the new > installer will NOT rename it." > > Just to be clear on upper and lower case, does the above mean I > need to rename the folders as below? > > runtime/pages/wizards/ > > en-gb to en-GB > > nl-nl to nl-NL > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 26 June 2012 15:55, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Hang on, scrambled my paths there, but no matter. I'll let > Jonathan delete once he's got everything out of there he needs to. > > Yes, let's delete the /pageWizards folder. Definitive one is > runtime/pages/models. They all look up to date to me. Jonathan, > can you delete /pageWizards when you're ready? > > Nice one. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:49 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd > files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any > future changes are now made? > > I'm treating runtime/pages/models as the definitive set. I tend to > develop in \templates\pageTemplates, copying models into there > from /runtime/pages/models, then copying them back / into toolkits > etc. When we do a build we also need to zip up the xtps with the > new models in. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:43 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place as I > did not want to cause any issues with anything you might be doing Tom. > > "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the > files from a different place now." > > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd > files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any > future changes are now made? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk > website code. It depends on where > the files are. > I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files > from a different place now. > I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. > > Tom > > Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Sounds good, yes. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:41 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office > format and in pdf. > > This is so that an editable version is available for > translation or updating. > > So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open > office source files kept elsewhere? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in > /runtime, possibly even a link to it on the help menu, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / > add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page > Projects to the > > Page Wizards / supporting documents > > section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this > stuff at present so I guess its current location is as good as > anywhere for now. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, > why don't I see all the pages on the menu? > > Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / > add one ? > > We need some documentation here. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 > > > *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > > >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and > do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview > menu option stops working - no idea why. > > Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview > windows not being initialized? > > I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've > already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". > > I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I > do want executed each time* inside that condition. > > So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to > function? > > Can we display the state of those conditions while we run > through multiple View/Preview cycles? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn > runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation > and the problem does not appear to be fixed. > > However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. > > Open Xerte > > Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that > had been added to the default project) > > Open the wizard for the plain text page > > In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - > the preview works) > > Close the preview. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) > > Close the page wizard form. > > Open the page wizard form once more. > > Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take > place) > > Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. > > It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and > do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview > menu option stops working - no idea why. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search > for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff > > Re: the preview link > > Which file would this relate to editor.swf? > > I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's > site. > > If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute > the latest version from the svn in my Xerte install and then > test again. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Hi, > > I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just > looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new > pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols in the editor > library so it might just need rebuilding? > > Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't see > anything wrong with this??? > > viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { > > if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == > languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { > > preview(); > > } > > } > > So not sure if this I still an issue? > > Last few things -- let's get this finished now, > > J > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 26 22:44:19 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:44:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: <4FE9F9A0.40805@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211EA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FE9BADE.3030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E3E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E55@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2F1A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FE9F9A0.40805@tor.nl> Message-ID: Hello Tom, I have now removed the nl-nl folders from the svn as requested. The wizard folder is en-GB as specified. I have removed the language="en-GB" entries from the model files which contained them. There is no longer a model folder in pageWizards. All changes to the models should be made to the model files in svn / runtime / pages / models / and the wizard files in svn / runtime / pages / wizards / en-GB as these files will be the model files for the next releases of Xerte and XOT Whilst the model files in svn / templates / pageTemplates / models represent the models used in the current pageTemplates projects they will become redundant once the next release is issued. Any changes to these files to fix current issues in pageTemplates or XOT will also need duplicating in the svn / runtime / pages / models / equivalent file. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 June 2012 19:04, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Johnathan, > > Thank you. A couple of remarks: > > The language files (not only the nl-NL, but all language files) are > generated by xertrans.xerte.org.uk from the en-GB files. So I'd rather > not have them in svn as well. > > So: > 1. you can delete the nl-nl folder as well. > 2. you can delete the runtime nl_NL/nl-NL folder too. > 3. I hope the new runtime en-GB is that and not en_GB > > Which one of the models folders will be leading? > > Tom > > > > Op 26-6-2012 19:14, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I have completed most of the tidying up of the runtime and pageWizards > folders. > > As mentioned in an earlier post the nl-nl folder in pageWizards appears > to be out of date when compared to the nl-nl folder in the desktop beta, so > the new runtime nl_NL folder contains files from the desktop beta. However > temporarily I have left the pageWizards nl-nl file intact just in case > there is anything in there that Tom needs. > > The only current duplication with respect to the Xerte svn is the > duplication of model files in > > svn / runtime/pages/models > > and > > svn / templates / pageTemplates / models > > Note: It will be possible in the next release to generate the > pageTemplates project from the model files without the need to package an > xtp file so the model files in runtime / pages / models will be the > definitive set of model files. If there is a need to modify the files in > the pageTemplates / models folders prior to the release of the next version > then any changes will need to be replicated appropriately in the runtime / > pages / models equivalent file. > > You are all probably fully aware of this but there is no harm in > re-stating this :-) > No one wants things to get out of synch at this late stage of the > proceedings. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > The pageTemplates / models remain in the form that lacks [projPI] so if > these files > > > > On 26 June 2012 17:23, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> Might as well be consistent. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 26 June 2012 17:04 >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> I'll start tidying up the svn shortly. >> >> >> >> "Hmmm, please make it en-GB. The fact that you have en-gb, is because you >> had an old folder from an old install, and for all purposes, for Windows >> en-GB and en-gb is the same, so the new installer will NOT rename it." >> >> >> >> Just to be clear on upper and lower case, does the above mean I need to >> rename the folders as below? >> >> >> >> runtime/pages/wizards/ >> >> >> >> en-gb to en-GB >> >> nl-nl to nl-NL >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 26 June 2012 15:55, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Hang on, scrambled my paths there, but no matter. I?ll let Jonathan >> delete once he?s got everything out of there he needs to. >> >> >> >> Yes, let?s delete the /pageWizards folder. Definitive one is >> runtime/pages/models. They all look up to date to me. Jonathan, can you >> delete /pageWizards when you?re ready? >> >> >> >> Nice one. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney >> *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:49 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files >> in the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are >> now made? >> >> >> >> I?m treating runtime/pages/models as the definitive set. I tend to >> develop in \templates\pageTemplates, copying models into there from >> /runtime/pages/models, then copying them back / into toolkits etc. When we >> do a build we also need to zip up the xtps with the new models in. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:43 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place as I did not >> want to cause any issues with anything you might be doing Tom. >> >> >> >> "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from >> a different place now." >> >> >> >> Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and xwd files in >> the runtime folder as the definitive set to which any future changes are >> now made? >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> >> I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk website code. It depends on >> where the files are. >> I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the files from a >> different place now. >> I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. >> >> Tom >> >> Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Sounds good, yes. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ >> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:41 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> At present all the documentation is duplicated in open office format and >> in pdf. >> >> >> >> This is so that an editable version is available for translation or >> updating. >> >> >> >> So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the open office >> source files kept elsewhere? >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder in /runtime, >> possibly even a link to it on the help menu, >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? >> >> We need some documentation here. >> >> >> >> I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page Projects to the >> >> >> >> Page Wizards / supporting documents >> >> >> >> section of the svn (not sure where else you might want this stuff at >> present so I guess its current location is as good as anywhere for now. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don?t >> I see all the pages on the menu? >> >> >> >> Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ? >> >> >> >> We need some documentation here. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett >> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 >> >> >> *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> >> >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / >> Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops >> working - no idea why. >> >> >> >> Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not >> being initialized? >> >> >> >> I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run >> this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again". >> >> I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want >> executed each time* inside that condition. >> >> >> >> So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function? >> >> Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through >> multiple View/Preview cycles? >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn >> runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the >> problem does not appear to be fixed. >> >> >> >> However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised. >> >> >> >> Open Xerte >> >> Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been >> added to the default project) >> >> Open the wizard for the plain text page >> >> In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview >> works) >> >> Close the preview. >> >> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) >> >> Close the page wizard form. >> >> Open the page wizard form once more. >> >> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place) >> >> Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. >> >> >> >> It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View / >> Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops >> working - no idea why. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> It?s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for >> ?viewMenu?, I think that?ll drop you right in? >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >> Re: the preview link >> >> >> >> Which file would this relate to editor.swf? >> >> >> >> I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site. >> >> >> >> If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest >> version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the >> spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor: >> I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? >> >> >> >> Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can?t see anything >> wrong with this??? >> >> >> >> viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { >> >> if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == >> languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { >> >> preview(); >> >> } >> >> } >> >> >> >> So not sure if this I still an issue? >> >> >> >> Last few things ? let?s get this finished now, >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Jun 26 22:47:45 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:47:45 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF6211AA6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2793@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E27A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FE9BADE.3030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E3E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2E55@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2F1A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FE9F9A0.40805@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4FEA2E01.3020809@tor.nl> Perfect, thank you! Op 26-6-2012 23:44, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > Hello Tom, > > I have now removed the nl-nl folders from the svn as requested. > The wizard folder is en-GB as specified. > > I have removed the language="en-GB" entries from the model files which > contained them. > > There is no longer a model folder in pageWizards. > > All changes to the models should be made to the model files in > > svn / runtime / pages / models / > > and the wizard files in > > svn / runtime / pages / wizards / en-GB > > as these files will be the model files for the next releases of Xerte > and XOT > > Whilst the model files in svn / templates / pageTemplates / models > represent the models used in the current pageTemplates projects they > will become redundant once the next release is issued. Any changes to > these files to fix current issues in pageTemplates or XOT will also > need duplicating in the svn / runtime / pages / models / equivalent file. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 26 June 2012 19:04, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Johnathan, > > Thank you. A couple of remarks: > > The language files (not only the nl-NL, but all language files) > are generated by xertrans.xerte.org.uk > from the en-GB files. So I'd rather > not have them in svn as well. > > So: > 1. you can delete the nl-nl folder as well. > 2. you can delete the runtime nl_NL/nl-NL folder too. > 3. I hope the new runtime en-GB is that and not en_GB > > Which one of the models folders will be leading? > > Tom > > > > Op 26-6-2012 19:14, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> I have completed most of the tidying up of the runtime and >> pageWizards folders. >> >> As mentioned in an earlier post the nl-nl folder in pageWizards >> appears to be out of date when compared to the nl-nl folder in >> the desktop beta, so the new runtime nl_NL folder contains files >> from the desktop beta. However temporarily I have left the >> pageWizards nl-nl file intact just in case there is anything in >> there that Tom needs. >> >> The only current duplication with respect to the Xerte svn is the >> duplication of model files in >> >> svn / runtime/pages/models >> >> and >> >> svn / templates / pageTemplates / models >> >> Note: It will be possible in the next release to generate the >> pageTemplates project from the model files without the need to >> package an xtp file so the model files in runtime / pages / >> models will be the definitive set of model files. If there is a >> need to modify the files in the pageTemplates / models folders >> prior to the release of the next version then any changes will >> need to be replicated appropriately in the runtime / pages / >> models equivalent file. >> >> You are all probably fully aware of this but there is no harm in >> re-stating this :-) >> No one wants things to get out of synch at this late stage of the >> proceedings. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> The pageTemplates / models remain in the form that lacks [projPI] >> so if these files >> >> >> >> On 26 June 2012 17:23, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Might as well be consistent. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 26 June 2012 17:04 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> I'll start tidying up the svn shortly. >> >> "Hmmm, please make it en-GB. The fact that you have en-gb, is >> because you had an old folder from an old install, and for >> all purposes, for Windows en-GB and en-gb is the same, so the >> new installer will NOT rename it." >> >> Just to be clear on upper and lower case, does the above >> mean I need to rename the folders as below? >> >> runtime/pages/wizards/ >> >> en-gb to en-GB >> >> nl-nl to nl-NL >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 26 June 2012 15:55, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Hang on, scrambled my paths there, but no matter. I'll let >> Jonathan delete once he's got everything out of there he >> needs to. >> >> Yes, let's delete the /pageWizards folder. Definitive one is >> runtime/pages/models. They all look up to date to me. >> Jonathan, can you delete /pageWizards when you're ready? >> >> Nice one. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Julian Tenney >> *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:49 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and >> xwd files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to >> which any future changes are now made? >> >> I'm treating runtime/pages/models as the definitive set. I >> tend to develop in \templates\pageTemplates, copying models >> into there from /runtime/pages/models, then copying them back >> / into toolkits etc. When we do a build we also need to zip >> up the xtps with the new models in. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:43 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place >> as I did not want to cause any issues with anything you might >> be doing Tom. >> >> "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab >> the files from a different place now." >> >> Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and >> xwd files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to >> which any future changes are now made? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders > > wrote: >> >> I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >> website code. It depends on >> where the files are. >> I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the >> files from a different place now. >> I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible. >> >> Tom >> >> Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Sounds good, yes. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On >> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:41 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> At present all the documentation is duplicated in open >> office format and in pdf. >> >> This is so that an editable version is available for >> translation or updating. >> >> So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the >> open office source files kept elsewhere? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder >> in /runtime, possibly even a link to it on the help menu, >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On >> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them >> / add one ? >> >> We need some documentation here. >> >> I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page >> Projects to the >> >> Page Wizards / supporting documents >> >> section of the svn (not sure where else you might want >> this stuff at present so I guess its current location is >> as good as anywhere for now. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Silly question time: when I run xerte from >> /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the >> menu? >> >> Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them >> / add one ? >> >> We need some documentation here. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On >> Behalf Of *Dave Burnett >> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50 >> >> >> *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> >> >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form >> and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / >> Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. >> >> Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple >> preview windows not being initialized? >> >> I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've >> already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it >> again". >> >> I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code >> *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition. >> >> So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview >> to function? >> >> Can we display the state of those conditions while we run >> through multiple View/Preview cycles? >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> >> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte >> svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte >> installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed. >> >> However the problem is a little more subtle than I first >> realised. >> >> Open Xerte >> >> Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page >> that had been added to the default project) >> >> Open the wizard for the plain text page >> >> In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result >> - the preview works) >> >> Close the preview. >> >> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works) >> >> Close the page wizard form. >> >> Open the page wizard form once more. >> >> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to >> take place) >> >> Use the forms play button instead and preview will work. >> >> It appears that for some reason once you open a page form >> and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View / >> Preview menu option stops working - no idea why. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, >> search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in... >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On >> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28 >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff >> >> Re: the preview link >> >> Which file would this relate to editor.swf? >> >> I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from >> Tom's site. >> >> If you confirm which file this code is in I will >> substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte >> install and then test again. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I >> just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for >> the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols >> in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding? >> >> Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't >> see anything wrong with this??? >> >> viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) { >> >> if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label == >> languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) { >> >> preview(); >> >> } >> >> } >> >> So not sure if this I still an issue? >> >> Last few things -- let's get this finished now, >> >> J >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for >> the addressee and may contain confidential information. >> If you have received this message in error, please send >> it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 27 05:01:30 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (Jose Diaz) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 21:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <1340769690.84105.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi Pat. Thanks for this help. I'll use the trunk then and will check the $_SESSION variable in config.php. Take care. Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ________________________________ De: Pat Lockley Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 3:51:04 Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela The website XOT is stable. I think the trunk is stable enough. I don't think the website XOT can be translated fully. config.php has a $_SESSION variable for language On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda wrote: > Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. > > Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? > > What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? > > I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. > > Take care. > > Jos?. > > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley > Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 > To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical developers > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. > > To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say > es-vn (or your own code). > > Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the > language folder relates to a page on the site. > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: >> Hi guys. >> >> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >> >> The agenda is as follows: >> >> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >> 2. Available resources: The Community. >> 3. My First Project with XOT. >> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >> 6. Change how LO looks like. >> >> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >> >> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >> >> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish >> but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish >> language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the >> translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >> >> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >> >> Does the xertetrans link work now? >> >> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >> >> Is this info useful yet? >> >> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over XOT. >> >> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT >> capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >> >> Thanks a lot. >> >> Jos?. >> >> -- >> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >> Skype: xt4mhz >> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 27 05:10:41 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (Jose Diaz) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 21:10:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2BAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BF62E2BAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1340770241.91012.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hey Julian! ... this sounds very good! XOT project has been accepted because it allow's teachers to create learning content easily. However, the translation to spanish is critical because in english in latin america is not a default language. I would like to understand better how xertetrans works to be able to help. I'm sure if we are able to translate XOT to spanish, it will be very used by teachers community. Of course, it will help to add XOT as a topic of local events. Take care. Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ________________________________ De: Julian Tenney Para: Jose Diaz ; For Xerte technical developers Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 5:23:20 Asunto: RE: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela I didn?t realise you were in Venezuela: I visited Caracas a few years ago, really enjoyed it. Merida in the mountains was lovely. I?ve always fancied organising a Xerte conference on the island of Tobago - which is possibly one of the most beautiful places I?ve ever seen ? maybe we should work on that! ? From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jose Diaz Sent: 26 June 2012 00:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela ? Hi guys. ? Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. ? The agenda is as follows: ? 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. 2. Available resources: The Community. 3. My First Project with XOT. 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. 5. Translating to spanish XOT. 6. Change how LO looks like. ? Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only ? Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? ? In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk How can I enable spanish language from language folder? Does the xertetrans link work now? Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html Is this info useful yet? I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over XOT. The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT capabilities and push the use in latin american people. Thanks a lot. Jos?. -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. 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URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 27 05:18:32 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (Jose Diaz) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 21:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <4FE9B776.8030801@tor.nl> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4FE9B776.8030801@tor.nl> Message-ID: <1340770712.26292.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi Tom, I hope you be ok. I found in my records when you sent me the link and offered me a guest user account. I'm not sure how to use the "xertetrans" site and how to integrate it with XOT ... can you explain me to show this during the workshop? Probably I'll use the XOT from trunk (svn). I suppose copying the "en-gb" folder to "es-ve" and modifying the $_SESSION variable in config.php will do the magic to translate XOT to spanish. When you say "ou have to modify the template to load the proper language file" ... what do you mean? Does it sound good to you? Thanks! Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ________________________________ De: Tom Reijnders Para: Jose Diaz ; For Xerte technical developers Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 8:51:58 Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela Only the latest (to be released) version of XOT, the website itself can be translated. However in the stable xot you can add a Spanish translation of the runtime. You can find that in the language folder of the xot installation. You have to modify the template to load the proper language file though. Furthermore, the latest xot can be translated using the http://xertetrans.xerte.uk.org website. It allows you to maintain the translation of both the xot website and also of the models. Op 26-6-2012 1:17, Jose Diaz schreef: Hi guys. > > >Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. > > >The agenda is as follows: > > >1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >2. Available resources: The Community. >3. My First Project with XOT. >4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >5. Translating to spanish XOT. >6. Change how LO looks like. > > >Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only > > >Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? > > >In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk > >How can I enable spanish language from language folder? > >Does the xertetrans link work now? > >Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html > >Is this info useful yet? > >I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over XOT. > >The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT capabilities and push the use in latin american people. > >Thanks a lot. > >Jos?. > > >-- >Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >Skype: xt4mhz >Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > >This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Jun 27 08:14:02 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:14:02 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <1340770712.26292.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4FE9B776.8030801@tor.nl> <1340770712.26292.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FEAB2BA.2010800@tor.nl> The xertetrans website, checks the svn, and extract every translatable text from the xot website, and from the model and wizard (pages) files. Than it allows you to generate a whole new language tree (en-VE) to be placed into XOT. If you are using the trunk svn version, please ignore my comment on modifying the template. Currently, there are two issues with xertretrans: 1. The structure of SVN is changed, and xertetrans is not yet up to date with that 2. The functionality to extract the en-VE folder form the website and get it on your own computer is not working yet, I am working on that. I'll create an account, and you can at least look at how it's going to work shortly. Besides xertetrans, you need to translate two xml files in the language folder, for the translation of the wizard, and for the translation of the runtime engine (the player). Tom Op 27-6-2012 6:18, Jose Diaz schreef: > Hi Tom, I hope you be ok. > > I found in my records when you sent me the link and offered me a guest > user account. > > I'm not sure how to use the "xertetrans" site and how to integrate it > with XOT ... can you explain me to show this during the workshop? > > Probably I'll use the XOT from trunk (svn). I suppose copying the > "en-gb" folder to "es-ve" and modifying the $_SESSION variable in > config.php will do the magic to translate XOT to spanish. > > When you say "ou have to modify the template to load the proper > language file" ... what do you mean? > > Does it sound good to you? > > Thanks! > > Jos?. > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De:* Tom Reijnders > *Para:* Jose Diaz ; For Xerte technical developers > > *Enviado:* Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 8:51:58 > *Asunto:* Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > Only the latest (to be released) version of XOT, the website itself > can be translated. However in the stable xot you can add a Spanish > translation of the runtime. You can find that in the language folder > of the xot installation. > > You have to modify the template to load the proper language file though. > > Furthermore, the latest xot can be translated using the > http://xertetrans.xerte.uk.org > website. It allows you to maintain the translation of both the xot > website and also of the models. > > > Op 26-6-2012 1:17, Jose Diaz schreef: >> Hi guys. >> >> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >> >> The agenda is as follows: >> >> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >> 2. Available resources: The Community. >> 3. My First Project with XOT. >> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >> 6. Change how LO looks like. >> >> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >> >> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >> >> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to >> spanish but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable >> the spanish language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link >> to work on the translation to spanish (guest-guest): >> xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >> >> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >> >> Does the xertetrans link work now? >> >> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >> >> Is this info useful yet? >> >> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list >> over XOT. >> >> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show >> XOT capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >> >> Thanks a lot. >> >> Jos?. >> >> -- >> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >> Skype: xt4mhz >> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >> University of Nottingham. >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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After finishing the first part of the workshop I mentioned before, I did a translation to spanish of the file "moodle_integration_readme.txt" I did some changes, being more specific in certain sentences. I hope this helps. Take care. Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: moodle_integration_readme_es.txt URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 04:20:53 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (Jose Diaz) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects Message-ID: <1340853653.18916.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi guys, I hope you be ok. Recently I installed XOT from trunk and did the integration process for MOODLE. The workflow for login is working well. The problem is when I login in to MOODLE and visit XOT installation, I create a project and publish (save) it, BUT the files are not saved. When I get back to XOT (after MOODLE login), the project list is empty. However, the directory in "USER-FILES" for the user is created too. Some additional info: 1. Installation directories: MOODLE: /var/www/moodle XOT: /var/www/xot-demo 2. Content and permissions into "USER-FILES": drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:12 3-profesor-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:14 4-profesor-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 5-profesor-Nottingham Note: "profesor" is the user used to login to MOODLE and visit XOT. Each time I try to create LO from XOT, a new directory is created for the same user. Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why. The contents into "5-profesor-Nottingham" are: /var/www/xot-demo/USER-FILES/5-profesor-Nottingham# ls -al total 12 drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 . drwxr-xr-x 8 www-data www-data? 64 2012-06-27 22:45 .. -rw-rw-rw- 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:47 data.xml drwxrwxrwx 2 www-data www-data?? 1 2012-06-27 22:45 media -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:48 preview.xml What could be wrong? Thanks a lot in advance. Take care. Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jose Diaz Sent: 28 June 2012 04:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects Hi guys, I hope you be ok. Recently I installed XOT from trunk and did the integration process for MOODLE. The workflow for login is working well. The problem is when I login in to MOODLE and visit XOT installation, I create a project and publish (save) it, BUT the files are not saved. When I get back to XOT (after MOODLE login), the project list is empty. However, the directory in "USER-FILES" for the user is created too. Some additional info: 1. Installation directories: MOODLE: /var/www/moodle XOT: /var/www/xot-demo 2. Content and permissions into "USER-FILES": drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data 24 2012-06-27 22:12 3-profesor-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data 24 2012-06-27 22:14 4-profesor-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data 24 2012-06-27 22:45 5-profesor-Nottingham Note: "profesor" is the user used to login to MOODLE and visit XOT. Each time I try to create LO from XOT, a new directory is created for the same user. Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why. The contents into "5-profesor-Nottingham" are: /var/www/xot-demo/USER-FILES/5-profesor-Nottingham# ls -al total 12 drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data 24 2012-06-27 22:45 . drwxr-xr-x 8 www-data www-data 64 2012-06-27 22:45 .. -rw-rw-rw- 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:47 data.xml drwxrwxrwx 2 www-data www-data 1 2012-06-27 22:45 media -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:48 preview.xml What could be wrong? Thanks a lot in advance. Take care. Jos?. -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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I added at the top of the "config.php" file the line "require("/var/www/moodle/config.php");" and the projects are saved know. I tested adding some images to title pages and all of them are saved into the media folder as expected. A question: Each time a user (profesor) creates a project a directory in "USER-FILES" will be created? Or it should be into the unique "ID-profesor-Nottinghman" directory? This is the content of "USER-FILES" after creatin two more projects: drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:12 3-profesor-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:14 4-profesor-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 5-profesor-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-28 07:45 6-profesor-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-28 07:50 7-profesor-Nottingham The directories "6-profesor-Nottingham" and "7-profesor-Nottingham" are new after creating two more projects. Thanks for the help. Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ________________________________ De: Ron Mitchell Para: 'Jose Diaz' ; 'For Xerte technical developers' Enviado: Jueves, 28 de junio, 2012 3:27:48 Asunto: RE: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects > Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why< This is normall - all project folders contain the username as well as the id and template ? > BUT the files are not saved< Try adding the path to your moodle config at the top of the xot config.php e.g. require("/var/www/moodle/config.php"); ? Test by creating a new LO. Let us know if that resolves the issue? ? HTH Ron ? From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jose Diaz Sent: 28 June 2012 04:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects ? Hi guys, I hope you be ok. ? Recently I installed XOT from trunk and did the integration process for MOODLE. ? The workflow for login is working well. ? The problem is when I login in to MOODLE and visit XOT installation, I create a project and publish (save) it, BUT the files are not saved. When I get back to XOT (after MOODLE login), the project list is empty. However, the directory in "USER-FILES" for the user is created too. ? Some additional info: ? 1. Installation directories: ? MOODLE: /var/www/moodle XOT: /var/www/xot-demo ? 2. Content and permissions into "USER-FILES": ? drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:12 3-profesor-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:14 4-profesor-Nottingham drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 5-profesor-Nottingham ? Note: "profesor" is the user used to login to MOODLE and visit XOT. Each time I try to create LO from XOT, a new directory is created for the same user. Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why. ? The contents into "5-profesor-Nottingham" are: ? /var/www/xot-demo/USER-FILES/5-profesor-Nottingham# ls -al total 12 drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 . drwxr-xr-x 8 www-data www-data? 64 2012-06-27 22:45 .. -rw-rw-rw- 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:47 data.xml drwxrwxrwx 2 www-data www-data?? 1 2012-06-27 22:45 media -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:48 preview.xml What could be wrong? ? Thanks a lot in advance. ? Take care. ? Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Jun 28 13:32:48 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:32:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Moodle integration and troubles saving projects In-Reply-To: <1340886469.22919.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1340853653.18916.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003701cd5503$b6c3cac0$244b6040$@co.uk> <1340886469.22919.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: USER-FILES contains 1 folder for each project (id)-(creator)-(template) A shared project will share one folder. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: > Hi Ron. > > I added at the top of the "config.php" file the line > "require("/var/www/moodle/config.php");" and the projects are saved know. > > I tested adding some images to title pages and all of them are saved into > the media folder as expected. > > A question: > > Each time a user (profesor) creates a project a directory in "USER-FILES" > will be created? Or it should be into the unique "ID-profesor-Nottinghman" > directory? > > This is the content of "USER-FILES" after creatin two more projects: > > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:12 3-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:14 4-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 5-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-28 07:45 6-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-28 07:50 7-profesor-Nottingham > > The directories "6-profesor-Nottingham" and "7-profesor-Nottingham" are new > after creating two more projects. > > Thanks for the help. > > Jos?. > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > ________________________________ > De: Ron Mitchell > Para: 'Jose Diaz' ; 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Enviado: Jueves, 28 de junio, 2012 3:27:48 > Asunto: RE: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects > >> Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why< > This is normall - all project folders contain the username as well as the id > and template > >> BUT the files are not saved< > Try adding the path to your moodle config at the top of the xot config.php > e.g. > require("/var/www/moodle/config.php"); > > Test by creating a new LO. Let us know if that resolves the issue? > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jose Diaz > Sent: 28 June 2012 04:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects > > Hi guys, I hope you be ok. > > Recently I installed XOT from trunk and did the integration process for > MOODLE. > > The workflow for login is working well. > > The problem is when I login in to MOODLE and visit XOT installation, I > create a project and publish (save) it, BUT the files are not saved. When I > get back to XOT (after MOODLE login), the project list is empty. However, > the directory in "USER-FILES" for the user is created too. > > Some additional info: > > 1. Installation directories: > > MOODLE: /var/www/moodle > XOT: /var/www/xot-demo > > 2. Content and permissions into "USER-FILES": > > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:12 3-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:14 4-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 5-profesor-Nottingham > > Note: "profesor" is the user used to login to MOODLE and visit XOT. Each > time I try to create LO from XOT, a new directory is created for the same > user. Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why. > > The contents into "5-profesor-Nottingham" are: > > /var/www/xot-demo/USER-FILES/5-profesor-Nottingham# ls -al > total 12 > drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 . > drwxr-xr-x 8 www-data www-data? 64 2012-06-27 22:45 .. > -rw-rw-rw- 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:47 data.xml > drwxrwxrwx 2 www-data www-data?? 1 2012-06-27 22:45 media > -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:48 preview.xml > What could be wrong? > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > Take care. > > Jos?. > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 16:29:43 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (Jose Diaz) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Moodle integration and troubles saving projects In-Reply-To: References: <1340853653.18916.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003701cd5503$b6c3cac0$244b6040$@co.uk> <1340886469.22919.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1340897383.72056.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi Pat and thanks for your reply. So its a fact that we will have one directory by project. There is another thing that I'm not sure if is working properly: When I delete a project from XOT the directory still is in "USER-FILES" Shouldn't be deleted when I delete the project from XOT? Let say that I have 100 teachers using XOT and they create one project each one. After one week, 50% of them delete the project and create anothers. How can I keep "clean" the "USER-FILES" directory with "ghosts" projects? Thanks in advance. Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ________________________________ De: Pat Lockley Para: Jose Diaz ; For Xerte technical developers Enviado: Jueves, 28 de junio, 2012 8:02:48 Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Moodle integration and troubles saving projects USER-FILES contains 1 folder for each project (id)-(creator)-(template) A shared project will share one folder. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: > Hi Ron. > > I added at the top of the "config.php" file the line > "require("/var/www/moodle/config.php");" and the projects are saved know. > > I tested adding some images to title pages and all of them are saved into > the media folder as expected. > > A question: > > Each time a user (profesor) creates a project a directory in "USER-FILES" > will be created? Or it should be into the unique "ID-profesor-Nottinghman" > directory? > > This is the content of "USER-FILES" after creatin two more projects: > > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:12 3-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:14 4-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 5-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-28 07:45 6-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-28 07:50 7-profesor-Nottingham > > The directories "6-profesor-Nottingham" and "7-profesor-Nottingham" are new > after creating two more projects. > > Thanks for the help. > > Jos?. > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > ________________________________ > De: Ron Mitchell > Para: 'Jose Diaz' ; 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Enviado: Jueves, 28 de junio, 2012 3:27:48 > Asunto: RE: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects > >> Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why< > This is normall - all project folders contain the username as well as the id > and template > >> BUT the files are not saved< > Try adding the path to your moodle config at the top of the xot config.php > e.g. > require("/var/www/moodle/config.php"); > > Test by creating a new LO. Let us know if that resolves the issue? > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jose Diaz > Sent: 28 June 2012 04:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects > > Hi guys, I hope you be ok. > > Recently I installed XOT from trunk and did the integration process for > MOODLE. > > The workflow for login is working well. > > The problem is when I login in to MOODLE and visit XOT installation, I > create a project and publish (save) it, BUT the files are not saved. When I > get back to XOT (after MOODLE login), the project list is empty. However, > the directory in "USER-FILES" for the user is created too. > > Some additional info: > > 1. Installation directories: > > MOODLE: /var/www/moodle > XOT: /var/www/xot-demo > > 2. Content and permissions into "USER-FILES": > > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:12 3-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:14 4-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 5-profesor-Nottingham > > Note: "profesor" is the user used to login to MOODLE and visit XOT. Each > time I try to create LO from XOT, a new directory is created for the same > user. Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why. > > The contents into "5-profesor-Nottingham" are: > > /var/www/xot-demo/USER-FILES/5-profesor-Nottingham# ls -al > total 12 > drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 . > drwxr-xr-x 8 www-data www-data? 64 2012-06-27 22:45 .. > -rw-rw-rw- 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:47 data.xml > drwxrwxrwx 2 www-data www-data?? 1 2012-06-27 22:45 media > -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:48 preview.xml > What could be wrong? > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > Take care. > > Jos?. > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 16:32:36 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (Jose Diaz) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Moodle integration and troubles saving projects In-Reply-To: References: <1340853653.18916.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003701cd5503$b6c3cac0$244b6040$@co.uk> <1340886469.22919.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1340897556.87965.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi everyone. Do you think is a good idea to add this instruction (add a the top of config.php the sentence) to "moodle_integration_readme.txt" ? Take care. Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ________________________________ De: Pat Lockley Para: Jose Diaz ; For Xerte technical developers Enviado: Jueves, 28 de junio, 2012 8:02:48 Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Moodle integration and troubles saving projects USER-FILES contains 1 folder for each project (id)-(creator)-(template) A shared project will share one folder. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: > Hi Ron. > > I added at the top of the "config.php" file the line > "require("/var/www/moodle/config.php");" and the projects are saved know. > > I tested adding some images to title pages and all of them are saved into > the media folder as expected. > > A question: > > Each time a user (profesor) creates a project a directory in "USER-FILES" > will be created? Or it should be into the unique "ID-profesor-Nottinghman" > directory? > > This is the content of "USER-FILES" after creatin two more projects: > > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:12 3-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:14 4-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 5-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-28 07:45 6-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-28 07:50 7-profesor-Nottingham > > The directories "6-profesor-Nottingham" and "7-profesor-Nottingham" are new > after creating two more projects. > > Thanks for the help. > > Jos?. > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > ________________________________ > De: Ron Mitchell > Para: 'Jose Diaz' ; 'For Xerte technical developers' > > Enviado: Jueves, 28 de junio, 2012 3:27:48 > Asunto: RE: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects > >> Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why< > This is normall - all project folders contain the username as well as the id > and template > >> BUT the files are not saved< > Try adding the path to your moodle config at the top of the xot config.php > e.g. > require("/var/www/moodle/config.php"); > > Test by creating a new LO. Let us know if that resolves the issue? > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jose Diaz > Sent: 28 June 2012 04:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects > > Hi guys, I hope you be ok. > > Recently I installed XOT from trunk and did the integration process for > MOODLE. > > The workflow for login is working well. > > The problem is when I login in to MOODLE and visit XOT installation, I > create a project and publish (save) it, BUT the files are not saved. When I > get back to XOT (after MOODLE login), the project list is empty. However, > the directory in "USER-FILES" for the user is created too. > > Some additional info: > > 1. Installation directories: > > MOODLE: /var/www/moodle > XOT: /var/www/xot-demo > > 2. Content and permissions into "USER-FILES": > > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:12 3-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:14 4-profesor-Nottingham > drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 5-profesor-Nottingham > > Note: "profesor" is the user used to login to MOODLE and visit XOT. Each > time I try to create LO from XOT, a new directory is created for the same > user. Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why. > > The contents into "5-profesor-Nottingham" are: > > /var/www/xot-demo/USER-FILES/5-profesor-Nottingham# ls -al > total 12 > drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 . > drwxr-xr-x 8 www-data www-data? 64 2012-06-27 22:45 .. > -rw-rw-rw- 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:47 data.xml > drwxrwxrwx 2 www-data www-data?? 1 2012-06-27 22:45 media > -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:48 preview.xml > What could be wrong? > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > Take care. > > Jos?. > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ________________________________ De: Pat Lockley Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 3:51:04 Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela The website XOT is stable. I think the trunk is stable enough. I don't think the website XOT can be translated fully. config.php has a $_SESSION variable for language On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda wrote: > Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. > > Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? > > What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? > > I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. > > Take care. > > Jos?. > > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley > Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 > To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical developers > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. > > To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say > es-vn (or your own code). > > Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the > language folder relates to a page on the site. > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: >> Hi guys. >> >> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >> >> The agenda is as follows: >> >> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >> 2. Available resources: The Community. >> 3. My First Project with XOT. >> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >> 6. Change how LO looks like. >> >> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >> >> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >> >> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish >> but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish >> language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the >> translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >> >> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >> >> Does the xertetrans link work now? >> >> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >> >> Is this info useful yet? >> >> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over XOT. >> >> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT >> capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >> >> Thanks a lot. >> >> Jos?. >> >> -- >> Lic. Jos? 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Jun 28 16:54:05 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:54:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Moodle integration and troubles saving projects In-Reply-To: <1340897383.72056.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1340853653.18916.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003701cd5503$b6c3cac0$244b6040$@co.uk> <1340886469.22919.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1340897383.72056.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A file is deleted when it is deleted from the recycle bin You can use the admin (management.php) to delete materials On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: > Hi Pat and thanks for your reply. > > So its a fact that we will have one directory by project. > > There is another thing that I'm not sure if is working properly: > > When I delete a project from XOT the directory still is in "USER-FILES" > > Shouldn't be deleted when I delete the project from XOT? > > Let say that I have 100 teachers using XOT and they create one project each > one. After one week, 50% of them delete the project and create anothers. > > How can I keep "clean" the "USER-FILES" directory with "ghosts" projects? > > Thanks in advance. > > Jos?. > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > ________________________________ > De: Pat Lockley > Para: Jose Diaz ; For Xerte technical developers > > Enviado: Jueves, 28 de junio, 2012 8:02:48 > Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Moodle integration and troubles saving projects > > USER-FILES contains 1 folder for each project > > (id)-(creator)-(template) > > A shared project will share one folder. > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: >> Hi Ron. >> >> I added at the top of the "config.php" file the line >> "require("/var/www/moodle/config.php");" and the projects are saved know. >> >> I tested adding some images to title pages and all of them are saved into >> the media folder as expected. >> >> A question: >> >> Each time a user (profesor) creates a project a directory in "USER-FILES" >> will be created? Or it should be into the unique "ID-profesor-Nottinghman" >> directory? >> >> This is the content of "USER-FILES" after creatin two more projects: >> >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:12 >> 3-profesor-Nottingham >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:14 >> 4-profesor-Nottingham >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 >> 5-profesor-Nottingham >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-28 07:45 >> 6-profesor-Nottingham >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-28 07:50 >> 7-profesor-Nottingham >> >> The directories "6-profesor-Nottingham" and "7-profesor-Nottingham" are >> new >> after creating two more projects. >> >> Thanks for the help. >> >> Jos?. >> >> -- >> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >> Skype: xt4mhz >> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >> ________________________________ >> De: Ron Mitchell >> Para: 'Jose Diaz' ; 'For Xerte technical developers' >> >> Enviado: Jueves, 28 de junio, 2012 3:27:48 >> Asunto: RE: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects >> >>> Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why< >> This is normall - all project folders contain the username as well as the >> id >> and template >> >>> BUT the files are not saved< >> Try adding the path to your moodle config at the top of the xot config.php >> e.g. >> require("/var/www/moodle/config.php"); >> >> Test by creating a new LO. Let us know if that resolves the issue? >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jose Diaz >> Sent: 28 June 2012 04:21 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Moodle integration and troubles saving projects >> >> Hi guys, I hope you be ok. >> >> Recently I installed XOT from trunk and did the integration process for >> MOODLE. >> >> The workflow for login is working well. >> >> The problem is when I login in to MOODLE and visit XOT installation, I >> create a project and publish (save) it, BUT the files are not saved. When >> I >> get back to XOT (after MOODLE login), the project list is empty. However, >> the directory in "USER-FILES" for the user is created too. >> >> Some additional info: >> >> 1. Installation directories: >> >> MOODLE: /var/www/moodle >> XOT: /var/www/xot-demo >> >> 2. Content and permissions into "USER-FILES": >> >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 18:10 1-guest-Nottingham >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:05 2-admin-Nottingham >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:12 >> 3-profesor-Nottingham >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:14 >> 4-profesor-Nottingham >> drwxrwxrwx? 3 www-data www-data?? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 >> 5-profesor-Nottingham >> >> Note: "profesor" is the user used to login to MOODLE and visit XOT. Each >> time I try to create LO from XOT, a new directory is created for the same >> user. Thats why "profesor" is repeating but I dont know why. >> >> The contents into "5-profesor-Nottingham" are: >> >> /var/www/xot-demo/USER-FILES/5-profesor-Nottingham# ls -al >> total 12 >> drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data www-data? 24 2012-06-27 22:45 . >> drwxr-xr-x 8 www-data www-data? 64 2012-06-27 22:45 .. >> -rw-rw-rw- 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:47 data.xml >> drwxrwxrwx 2 www-data www-data?? 1 2012-06-27 22:45 media >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data 868 2012-06-27 22:48 preview.xml >> What could be wrong? >> >> Thanks a lot in advance. >> >> Take care. >> >> Jos?. >> >> -- >> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >> Skype: xt4mhz >> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Please do >> not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >> do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Jun 28 16:54:35 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:54:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <1340898799.16080.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <1340898799.16080.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: is this in trunk? On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: > Hi Pat. > > I've been checking the "config.php" file but I cant see the $_SESSION > variable for language you mentioned. > > However, I can see in "index.php" file some sentences where "language" is > referred: > > Line 4: > _load_language_file("/index.inc"); > > Line 47: > > > I found a sentence where a "language selector" should be visible but I cant > see it in XOT. > > How can I make it visible? > > Line 53: > $selected = ''; > > Can I set here: > > $selected = 'es-ES'; > > ... after: > > cp -a en-GB es-ES > > Does it make sense? > > Thanks. > > Jos?. > > > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > ________________________________ > De: Pat Lockley > Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers > > Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 3:51:04 > Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > The website XOT is stable. I think the trunk is stable enough. > > I don't think the website XOT can be translated fully. > > config.php has a $_SESSION variable for language > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda > wrote: >> Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. >> >> Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? >> >> What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? >> >> I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. >> >> Take care. >> >> Jos?. >> >> >> >> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pat Lockley >> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 >> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical >> developers >> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela >> >> Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. >> >> To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say >> es-vn (or your own code). >> >> Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the >> language folder relates to a page on the site. >> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>> Hi guys. >>> >>> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >>> >>> The agenda is as follows: >>> >>> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >>> 2. Available resources: The Community. >>> 3. My First Project with XOT. >>> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >>> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >>> 6. Change how LO looks like. >>> >>> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >>> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >>> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >>> >>> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >>> >>> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish >>> but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish >>> language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the >>> translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >>> >>> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >>> >>> Does the xertetrans link work now? >>> >>> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >>> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >>> >>> Is this info useful yet? >>> >>> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over >>> XOT. >>> >>> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >>> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT >>> capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >>> >>> Thanks a lot. >>> >>> Jos?. >>> >>> -- >>> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>> Skype: xt4mhz >>> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>> in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>> not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>> do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 17:40:28 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:40:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <1340898799.16080.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <816516926-1340901611-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-476100029-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> Hi Pat. I downloaded XOT from the svn. :( Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Lockley Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:54:35 To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical developers Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela is this in trunk? On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: > Hi Pat. > > I've been checking the "config.php" file but I cant see the $_SESSION > variable for language you mentioned. > > However, I can see in "index.php" file some sentences where "language" is > referred: > > Line 4: > _load_language_file("/index.inc"); > > Line 47: > > > I found a sentence where a "language selector" should be visible but I cant > see it in XOT. > > How can I make it visible? > > Line 53: > $selected = ''; > > Can I set here: > > $selected = 'es-ES'; > > ... after: > > cp -a en-GB es-ES > > Does it make sense? > > Thanks. > > Jos?. > > > > -- > Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. > Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 > Skype: xt4mhz > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > ________________________________ > De: Pat Lockley > Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers > > Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 3:51:04 > Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > The website XOT is stable. I think the trunk is stable enough. > > I don't think the website XOT can be translated fully. > > config.php has a $_SESSION variable for language > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda > wrote: >> Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. >> >> Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? >> >> What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? >> >> I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. >> >> Take care. >> >> Jos?. >> >> >> >> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pat Lockley >> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 >> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical >> developers >> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela >> >> Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. >> >> To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say >> es-vn (or your own code). >> >> Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the >> language folder relates to a page on the site. >> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>> Hi guys. >>> >>> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >>> >>> The agenda is as follows: >>> >>> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >>> 2. Available resources: The Community. >>> 3. My First Project with XOT. >>> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >>> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >>> 6. Change how LO looks like. >>> >>> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >>> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >>> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >>> >>> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >>> >>> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish >>> but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish >>> language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the >>> translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >>> >>> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >>> >>> Does the xertetrans link work now? >>> >>> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >>> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >>> >>> Is this info useful yet? >>> >>> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over >>> XOT. >>> >>> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >>> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT >>> capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >>> >>> Thanks a lot. >>> >>> Jos?. >>> >>> -- >>> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>> Skype: xt4mhz >>> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>> in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>> not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>> do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Jun 28 17:49:39 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:49:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <816516926-1340901611-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-476100029-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <1340898799.16080.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <816516926-1340901611-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-476100029-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Yes - so trunk :) the code for languages has moved into functions.php On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda wrote: > Hi Pat. > > I downloaded XOT from the svn. > > :( > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:54:35 > To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical developers > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > is this in trunk? > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: >> Hi Pat. >> >> I've been checking the "config.php" file but I cant see the $_SESSION >> variable for language you mentioned. >> >> However, I can see in "index.php" file some sentences where "language" is >> referred: >> >> Line 4: >> _load_language_file("/index.inc"); >> >> Line 47: >> >> >> I found a sentence where a "language selector" should be visible but I cant >> see it in XOT. >> >> How can I make it visible? >> >> Line 53: >> $selected = ''; >> >> Can I set here: >> >> $selected = 'es-ES'; >> >> ... after: >> >> cp -a en-GB es-ES >> >> Does it make sense? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Jos?. >> >> >> >> -- >> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >> Skype: xt4mhz >> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >> ________________________________ >> De: Pat Lockley >> Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers >> >> Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 3:51:04 >> Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela >> >> The website XOT is stable. I think the trunk is stable enough. >> >> I don't think the website XOT can be translated fully. >> >> config.php has a $_SESSION variable for language >> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda >> wrote: >>> Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? >>> >>> What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? >>> >>> I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Jos?. >>> >>> >>> >>> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Pat Lockley >>> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 >>> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical >>> developers >>> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela >>> >>> Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. >>> >>> To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say >>> es-vn (or your own code). >>> >>> Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the >>> language folder relates to a page on the site. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>>> Hi guys. >>>> >>>> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >>>> >>>> The agenda is as follows: >>>> >>>> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >>>> 2. Available resources: The Community. >>>> 3. My First Project with XOT. >>>> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >>>> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >>>> 6. Change how LO looks like. >>>> >>>> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >>>> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >>>> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >>>> >>>> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >>>> >>>> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish >>>> but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish >>>> language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the >>>> translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >>>> >>>> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >>>> >>>> Does the xertetrans link work now? >>>> >>>> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >>>> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >>>> >>>> Is this info useful yet? >>>> >>>> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over >>>> XOT. >>>> >>>> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >>>> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT >>>> capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot. >>>> >>>> Jos?. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>>> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>>> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>>> Skype: xt4mhz >>>> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>> in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>>> not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>> do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>> system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>> in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>>> not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>> do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>> system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 17:58:36 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:58:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <1340898799.16080.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <816516926-1340901611-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-476100029-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <829856931-1340902700-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1801523658-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> Ahhh great :) How can I make visible the language selector? Thanks! Jos?. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Lockley Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:49:39 To: ; For Xerte technical developers Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela Yes - so trunk :) the code for languages has moved into functions.php On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda wrote: > Hi Pat. > > I downloaded XOT from the svn. > > :( > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:54:35 > To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical developers > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > is this in trunk? > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: >> Hi Pat. >> >> I've been checking the "config.php" file but I cant see the $_SESSION >> variable for language you mentioned. >> >> However, I can see in "index.php" file some sentences where "language" is >> referred: >> >> Line 4: >> _load_language_file("/index.inc"); >> >> Line 47: >> >> >> I found a sentence where a "language selector" should be visible but I cant >> see it in XOT. >> >> How can I make it visible? >> >> Line 53: >> $selected = ''; >> >> Can I set here: >> >> $selected = 'es-ES'; >> >> ... after: >> >> cp -a en-GB es-ES >> >> Does it make sense? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Jos?. >> >> >> >> -- >> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >> Skype: xt4mhz >> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >> ________________________________ >> De: Pat Lockley >> Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers >> >> Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 3:51:04 >> Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela >> >> The website XOT is stable. I think the trunk is stable enough. >> >> I don't think the website XOT can be translated fully. >> >> config.php has a $_SESSION variable for language >> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda >> wrote: >>> Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? >>> >>> What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? >>> >>> I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Jos?. >>> >>> >>> >>> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Pat Lockley >>> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 >>> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical >>> developers >>> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela >>> >>> Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. >>> >>> To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say >>> es-vn (or your own code). >>> >>> Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the >>> language folder relates to a page on the site. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>>> Hi guys. >>>> >>>> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >>>> >>>> The agenda is as follows: >>>> >>>> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >>>> 2. Available resources: The Community. >>>> 3. My First Project with XOT. >>>> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >>>> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >>>> 6. Change how LO looks like. >>>> >>>> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >>>> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >>>> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >>>> >>>> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >>>> >>>> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish >>>> but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish >>>> language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the >>>> translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >>>> >>>> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >>>> >>>> Does the xertetrans link work now? >>>> >>>> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >>>> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >>>> >>>> Is this info useful yet? >>>> >>>> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over >>>> XOT. >>>> >>>> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >>>> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT >>>> capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot. >>>> >>>> Jos?. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>>> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>>> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>>> Skype: xt4mhz >>>> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>> in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>>> not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>> do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>> system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Jun 28 18:05:17 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:05:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <829856931-1340902700-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1801523658-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <1340898799.16080.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <816516926-1340901611-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-476100029-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <829856931-1340902700-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1801523658-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: not sure (sorry) It doesn't look invisible by default? On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda wrote: > Ahhh great :) > > How can I make visible the language selector? > > Thanks! > > Jos?. > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:49:39 > To: ; For Xerte technical developers > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > Yes - so trunk :) > > the code for languages has moved into functions.php > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda > wrote: >> Hi Pat. >> >> I downloaded XOT from the svn. >> >> :( >> >> >> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pat Lockley >> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:54:35 >> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela >> >> is this in trunk? >> >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>> Hi Pat. >>> >>> I've been checking the "config.php" file but I cant see the $_SESSION >>> variable for language you mentioned. >>> >>> However, I can see in "index.php" file some sentences where "language" is >>> referred: >>> >>> Line 4: >>> _load_language_file("/index.inc"); >>> >>> Line 47: >>> >>> >>> I found a sentence where a "language selector" should be visible but I cant >>> see it in XOT. >>> >>> How can I make it visible? >>> >>> Line 53: >>> $selected = ''; >>> >>> Can I set here: >>> >>> $selected = 'es-ES'; >>> >>> ... after: >>> >>> cp -a en-GB es-ES >>> >>> Does it make sense? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Jos?. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>> Skype: xt4mhz >>> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >>> ________________________________ >>> De: Pat Lockley >>> Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers >>> >>> Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 3:51:04 >>> Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela >>> >>> The website XOT is stable. I think the trunk is stable enough. >>> >>> I don't think the website XOT can be translated fully. >>> >>> config.php has a $_SESSION variable for language >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda >>> wrote: >>>> Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. >>>> >>>> Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? >>>> >>>> What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? >>>> >>>> I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Jos?. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pat Lockley >>>> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 >>>> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical >>>> developers >>>> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela >>>> >>>> Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. >>>> >>>> To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say >>>> es-vn (or your own code). >>>> >>>> Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the >>>> language folder relates to a page on the site. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>>>> Hi guys. >>>>> >>>>> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >>>>> >>>>> The agenda is as follows: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >>>>> 2. Available resources: The Community. >>>>> 3. My First Project with XOT. >>>>> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >>>>> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >>>>> 6. Change how LO looks like. >>>>> >>>>> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >>>>> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >>>>> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >>>>> >>>>> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >>>>> >>>>> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish >>>>> but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish >>>>> language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the >>>>> translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >>>>> >>>>> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >>>>> >>>>> Does the xertetrans link work now? >>>>> >>>>> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >>>>> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >>>>> >>>>> Is this info useful yet? >>>>> >>>>> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over >>>>> XOT. >>>>> >>>>> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >>>>> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT >>>>> capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot. >>>>> >>>>> Jos?. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>>>> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>>>> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>>>> Skype: xt4mhz >>>>> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>> in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>>>> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>> do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>> in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>>>> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>> do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Jun 28 21:49:13 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:49:13 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <829856931-1340902700-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1801523658-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <1340898799.16080.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <816516926-1340901611-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-476100029-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <829856931-1340902700-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1801523658-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <4FECC349.2040803@tor.nl> At the momet, the language selector is only visible on the login page, and as you don't use the login page (you use the moodle integration, so the the moodle login page is used) you'll never see the language selector. We need to solve that (don't know how yet) In the mean time, you need to realize that by default the language of the browser is chosen, so if you have a spanish browser, it should choose spanish by default. NOTE: that will only work is spansh is actually present in the languages folder, if not XOT falls back to English. Tom Op 28-6-2012 18:58, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda schreef: > Ahhh great :) > > How can I make visible the language selector? > > Thanks! > > Jos?. > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:49:39 > To: ; For Xerte technical developers > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > Yes - so trunk :) > > the code for languages has moved into functions.php > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda > wrote: >> Hi Pat. >> >> I downloaded XOT from the svn. >> >> :( >> >> >> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pat Lockley >> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:54:35 >> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela >> >> is this in trunk? >> >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>> Hi Pat. >>> >>> I've been checking the "config.php" file but I cant see the $_SESSION >>> variable for language you mentioned. >>> >>> However, I can see in "index.php" file some sentences where "language" is >>> referred: >>> >>> Line 4: >>> _load_language_file("/index.inc"); >>> >>> Line 47: >>> >>> >>> I found a sentence where a "language selector" should be visible but I cant >>> see it in XOT. >>> >>> How can I make it visible? >>> >>> Line 53: >>> $selected = ''; >>> >>> Can I set here: >>> >>> $selected = 'es-ES'; >>> >>> ... after: >>> >>> cp -a en-GB es-ES >>> >>> Does it make sense? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Jos?. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>> Skype: xt4mhz >>> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >>> ________________________________ >>> De: Pat Lockley >>> Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers >>> >>> Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 3:51:04 >>> Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela >>> >>> The website XOT is stable. I think the trunk is stable enough. >>> >>> I don't think the website XOT can be translated fully. >>> >>> config.php has a $_SESSION variable for language >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda >>> wrote: >>>> Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. >>>> >>>> Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? >>>> >>>> What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? >>>> >>>> I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Jos?. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pat Lockley >>>> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 >>>> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical >>>> developers >>>> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela >>>> >>>> Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. >>>> >>>> To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say >>>> es-vn (or your own code). >>>> >>>> Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the >>>> language folder relates to a page on the site. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>>>> Hi guys. >>>>> >>>>> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >>>>> >>>>> The agenda is as follows: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >>>>> 2. Available resources: The Community. >>>>> 3. My First Project with XOT. >>>>> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >>>>> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >>>>> 6. Change how LO looks like. >>>>> >>>>> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >>>>> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >>>>> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >>>>> >>>>> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >>>>> >>>>> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish >>>>> but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish >>>>> language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the >>>>> translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >>>>> >>>>> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >>>>> >>>>> Does the xertetrans link work now? >>>>> >>>>> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >>>>> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >>>>> >>>>> Is this info useful yet? >>>>> >>>>> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over >>>>> XOT. >>>>> >>>>> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >>>>> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT >>>>> capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot. >>>>> >>>>> Jos?. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>>>> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>>>> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>>>> Skype: xt4mhz >>>>> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>> in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>>>> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>> do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>> in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>>>> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>> do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 22:05:12 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (Jose Diaz) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <1340898799.16080.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <816516926-1340901611-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-476100029-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <829856931-1340902700-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1801523658-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <1340917512.22098.YahooMailNeo@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Not really :-/ I'll try to find out the solution. Thanks for the help. Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ________________________________ De: Pat Lockley Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers Enviado: Jueves, 28 de junio, 2012 12:35:17 Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela not sure (sorry) It doesn't look invisible by default? On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda wrote: > Ahhh great :) > > How can I make visible the language selector? > > Thanks! > > Jos?. > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:49:39 > To: ; For Xerte technical developers > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > Yes - so trunk :) > > the code for languages has moved into functions.php > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda > wrote: >> Hi Pat. >> >> I downloaded XOT from the svn. >> >> :( >> >> >> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pat Lockley >> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:54:35 >> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela >> >> is this in trunk? >> >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>> Hi Pat. >>> >>> I've been checking the "config.php" file but I cant see the $_SESSION >>> variable for language you mentioned. >>> >>> However, I can see in "index.php" file some sentences where "language" is >>> referred: >>> >>> Line 4: >>> _load_language_file("/index.inc"); >>> >>> Line 47: >>> >>> >>> I found a sentence where a "language selector" should be visible but I cant >>> see it in XOT. >>> >>> How can I make it visible? >>> >>> Line 53: >>> $selected = ''; >>> >>> Can I set here: >>> >>> $selected = 'es-ES'; >>> >>> ... after: >>> >>> cp -a en-GB es-ES >>> >>> Does it make sense? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Jos?. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>> Skype: xt4mhz >>> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >>> ________________________________ >>> De: Pat Lockley >>> Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers >>> >>> Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 3:51:04 >>> Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela >>> >>> The website XOT is stable. I think the trunk is stable enough. >>> >>> I don't think the website XOT can be translated fully. >>> >>> config.php has a $_SESSION variable for language >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda >>> wrote: >>>> Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. >>>> >>>> Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? >>>> >>>> What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? >>>> >>>> I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Jos?. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pat Lockley >>>> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 >>>> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical >>>> developers >>>> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela >>>> >>>> Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. >>>> >>>> To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say >>>> es-vn (or your own code). >>>> >>>> Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the >>>> language folder relates to a page on the site. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>>>> Hi guys. >>>>> >>>>> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >>>>> >>>>> The agenda is as follows: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >>>>> 2. Available resources: The Community. >>>>> 3. My First Project with XOT. >>>>> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >>>>> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >>>>> 6. Change how LO looks like. >>>>> >>>>> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >>>>> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >>>>> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >>>>> >>>>> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >>>>> >>>>> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish >>>>> but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish >>>>> language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the >>>>> translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >>>>> >>>>> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >>>>> >>>>> Does the xertetrans link work now? >>>>> >>>>> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >>>>> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >>>>> >>>>> Is this info useful yet? >>>>> >>>>> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over >>>>> XOT. >>>>> >>>>> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >>>>> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT >>>>> capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot. >>>>> >>>>> Jos?. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>>>> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>>>> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>>>> Skype: xt4mhz >>>>> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>> in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>>>> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>>> do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Pat From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Sat Jun 30 00:19:53 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (Jose Diaz) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <4FEAB2BA.2010800@tor.nl> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4FE9B776.8030801@tor.nl> <1340770712.26292.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4FEAB2BA.2010800@tor.nl> Message-ID: <1341011993.59682.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi Tom! Did you check if http://xertetrans.xerte.uk.org/ is working well? I'm trying to visit it but "Server not found" is shown. Take care. Jos? ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ________________________________ De: Tom Reijnders Para: Jose Diaz ; For Xerte technical developers Enviado: Mi?rcoles, 27 de junio, 2012 2:44:02 Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela The xertetrans website, checks the svn, and extract every translatable text from the xot website, and from the model and wizard (pages) files. Than it allows you to generate a whole new language tree (en-VE) to be placed into XOT. If you are using the trunk svn version, please ignore my comment on modifying the template. Currently, there are two issues with xertretrans: 1. The structure of SVN is changed, and xertetrans is not yet up to date with that 2. The functionality to extract the en-VE folder form the website and get it on your own computer is not working yet, I am working on that. I'll create an account, and you can at least look at how it's going to work shortly. Besides xertetrans, you need to translate two xml files in the language folder, for the translation of the wizard, and for the translation of the runtime engine (the player). Tom Op 27-6-2012 6:18, Jose Diaz schreef: Hi Tom, I hope you be ok. > > >I found in my records when you sent me the link and offered me a guest user account. > > >I'm not sure how to use the "xertetrans" site and how to integrate it with XOT ... can you explain me to show this during the workshop? > > > >Probably I'll use the XOT from trunk (svn). I suppose copying the "en-gb" folder to "es-ve" and modifying the $_SESSION variable in config.php will do the magic to translate XOT to spanish. > > >When you say "ou have to modify the template to load the proper language file" ... what do you mean? > > > >Does it sound good to you? > > >Thanks! > > >Jos?. > >? >-- >Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >Skype: xt4mhz >Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com > > >________________________________ > De: Tom Reijnders >Para: Jose Diaz ; For Xerte technical developers >Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 8:51:58 >Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > >Only the latest (to be released) version of XOT, the website itself can be translated. However in the stable xot you can add a Spanish translation of the runtime. You can find that in the language folder of the xot installation. > >You have to modify the template to load the proper language file though. > >Furthermore, the latest xot can be translated using the http://xertetrans.xerte.uk.org website. It allows you to maintain the translation of both the xot website and also of the models. > > > >Op 26-6-2012 1:17, Jose Diaz schreef: > >Hi guys. >> >> >>Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >> >> >>The agenda is as follows: >> >> >>1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >>2. Available resources: The Community. >>3. My First Project with XOT. >>4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >>5. Translating to spanish XOT. >>6. Change how LO looks like. >> >> >>Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >> >> >>Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >> >> >>In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >> >>How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >> >>Does the xertetrans link work now? >> >>Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >> >>Is this info useful yet? >> >>I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over XOT. >> >>The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >> >>Thanks a lot. >> >>Jos?. >> >> >>-- >>Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>Skype: xt4mhz >>Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >> >>This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Sat Jun 30 00:25:49 2012 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (Jose Diaz) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela In-Reply-To: <1340917512.22098.YahooMailNeo@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1340666227.92701.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <689106190-1340671134-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-741631205-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <1340898799.16080.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <816516926-1340901611-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-476100029-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <829856931-1340902700-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1801523658-@b4.c29.bise6.blackberry> <1340917512.22098.YahooMailNeo@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1341012349.46827.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi guys! I finished the XOT workshop successfully. There was 30 peple and a lot of them are interested in translate XOT to spanish. There was 2 major ideas after finishing the experience: 1. People wants to change a little the way LO looks like. 2. People wants to translate to spanish XOT. I think if is possible to make available a small "How to translate SVN XOT" and "How to use http://xertetrans.xerte.uk.org/", as I expected XOT will be in spanish very quickly. Thanks all of you for helping me during this experience. Take care. Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ________________________________ De: Jose Diaz Para: For Xerte technical developers Enviado: Jueves, 28 de junio, 2012 16:35:12 Asunto: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela Not really :-/ I'll try to find out the solution. Thanks for the help. Jos?. ? -- Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 Skype: xt4mhz Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com ________________________________ De: Pat Lockley Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers Enviado: Jueves, 28 de junio, 2012 12:35:17 Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela not sure (sorry) It doesn't look invisible by default? On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda wrote: > Ahhh great :) > > How can I make visible the language selector? > > Thanks! > > Jos?. > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:49:39 > To: ; For Xerte technical developers > Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela > > Yes - so trunk :) > > the code for languages has moved into functions.php > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda > wrote: >> Hi Pat. >> >> I downloaded XOT from the svn. >> >> :( >> >> >> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pat Lockley >> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:54:35 >> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela >> >> is this in trunk? >> >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>> Hi Pat. >>> >>> I've been checking the "config.php" file but I cant see the $_SESSION >>> variable for language you mentioned. >>> >>> However, I can see in "index.php" file some sentences where "language" is >>> referred: >>> >>> Line 4: >>> _load_language_file("/index.inc"); >>> >>> Line 47: >>> >>> >>> I found a sentence where a "language selector" should be visible but I cant >>> see it in XOT. >>> >>> How can I make it visible? >>> >>> Line 53: >>> $selected = ''; >>> >>> Can I set here: >>> >>> $selected = 'es-ES'; >>> >>> ... after: >>> >>> cp -a en-GB es-ES >>> >>> Does it make sense? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Jos?. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lic. Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda. >>> Asesor de Tecnolog?as de Informaci?n y Comunicaci?n. >>> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085 >>> Skype: xt4mhz >>> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com >>> ________________________________ >>> De: Pat Lockley >>> Para: xt4mhz at yahoo.com; For Xerte technical developers >>> >>> Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 3:51:04 >>> Asunto: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: XOT Workshop in Venezuela >>> >>> The website XOT is stable. I think the trunk is stable enough. >>> >>> I don't think the website XOT can be translated fully. >>> >>> config.php has a $_SESSION variable for language >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda >>> wrote: >>>> Hey Pat! ... Thanks for your help. >>>> >>>> Is the XOT from Nottingham website stable? >>>> >>>> What file do I have to change to make default my language directory? >>>> >>>> I remember that updated one but I cant remember which one. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Jos?. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pat Lockley >>>> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:34:25 >>>> To: Jose Diaz; For Xerte technical >>>> developers >>>> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] XOT Workshop in Venezuela >>>> >>>> Trunk will be the next version. It might have bugs. >>>> >>>> To translate PHP - copy the en-gb folder in languages. Call it say >>>> es-vn (or your own code). >>>> >>>> Then look in the files for the text to translate. Each page in the >>>> language folder relates to a page on the site. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jose Diaz wrote: >>>>> Hi guys. >>>>> >>>>> Next wednesday June 27, I'm going to conduct a XOT workshop to 30 people. >>>>> >>>>> The agenda is as follows: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Setting up work environment: LAMP, MOODLE and XOT. >>>>> 2. Available resources: The Community. >>>>> 3. My First Project with XOT. >>>>> 4. MOODLE and XOT Integration. >>>>> 5. Translating to spanish XOT. >>>>> 6. Change how LO looks like. >>>>> >>>>> Today, I downloaded XOT from SVN: svn checkout >>>>> http://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ >>>>> xerteonlinetoolkits-read-only >>>>> >>>>> Is this the right (stable) version of XOT to work on my workshop? >>>>> >>>>> In the past, I asked how to translate XOT (pages to create LO) to spanish >>>>> but I forgot how to use the "language" directory and enable the spanish >>>>> language. By the other hand, Reijnders sent me this: link to work on the >>>>> translation to spanish (guest-guest): xertetrans.xerte.org.uk >>>>> >>>>> How can I enable spanish language from language folder? >>>>> >>>>> Does the xertetrans link work now? >>>>> >>>>> Finally, I wrote this post to change how XOT looks like: >>>>> http://jgdu.blogspot.com/2011/11/xot-como-cambiar-su-apariencia.html >>>>> >>>>> Is this info useful yet? >>>>> >>>>> I've been seen a lot of changes last months through the mail list over >>>>> XOT. >>>>> >>>>> The participants in the workshop will use XOT on their institutions >>>>> (universities and schools). So I think its a good opportunity to show XOT >>>>> capabilities and push the use in latin american people. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot. >>>>> >>>>> Jos?. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lic. Jos? 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