[Xerte-dev] Re: Advanced Options in Wizard

[Julian Tenney]

I think they should all go on the language checkbox: it's not about scrolling, it's about simplicity, and keeping simple things simple. Hangman is a good example: simple, but the form looks more daunting than it needs to when it exposes those properties.

If you could put those straight, that would be a load of stuff off our list?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 13 July 2012 10:00
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Advanced Options in Wizard

Before the internationalisation actions were taken there was some inconsistency between the different models. Some models had text that was displayed to the user in the model for the page e.g. a "feedback" label for a button. Other pages provided for some author access by including text for buttons in the xwd form. Typically these latter pages, as I recall, tended not to have many entries in their xwd forms.

When I converted the pages for internationalisation I removed all language text from the models and made it accessible from the xwd form. The availability of a language check box came part way through that process, as a result of some pages e.g. the quiz page, having a lot of new elements to the form, which resulted in the form being significantly larger than the display space, requiring significant scrolling of the form in order to see all the fields.

So the current situation is one in which there are some pages, like the hangman page that were modified for internationalisation prior to the availability of the language check box. The forms for these pages tends to still fit within the available display space with no need to scroll the form to see all the fields in the form.

For perfect consistency fields in forms, which have values that are likely to remain the same for every page in which that page type is used (that is button labels, button widths, text such as "Question"  "of" etc.) perhaps should be flagged in the xwd form with the language attribute so that they only display when the language option check box is ticked. However this does not compromise the functioning of the form.

I did not revisit every form once the language check box became available as the forms did not require scrolling. At the time I was more focussed on dealing with the changing requirements of the Connector pages - removal of separate language sections in the xwds, adding features to the Hotspot Image Connector etc.

The "advanced" option was not a feature I used in any of the forms. I think the feature will prove useful, but the changes I was making at the time all fell under the heading of "language".

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 13 July 2012 08:41, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
I thought all the text for buttons labels and all that stuff was going to be in one of the check boxes, so you don't see it by default?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 12 July 2012 16:57
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Advanced Options in Wizard

If I recall correctly Advanced was added then rather than change it to Language, Language was added as a second check box.

I used Language for all the language text but never used Advanced. It was kind of left there because it would probably prove useful at some time.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 12 July 2012 10:58, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
So far I haven't found any templates where advanced options show. Here's a good example where the extra options should be advanced in Hangman: most people will not need the last four fields. These should be advanced?

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